#pvp-arena
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i have c7 helmT but that's easy
helm is also my first core+1 from pulls so it be what it be
yeah that's whale, but still the rolls on his OL are sucky sucky
The point is, despite have similar CA bracket, he has 100 sync diff against me lmao
psychologically speaking, he might drop the game before you tho
100 sync diff shouldent lose
We'll see 
arnt u loved by scarlet you cant quit before he does
If you are in SEA, in the same CA, we have synch 221 peeps up to synch 421 peeps, both f2p

meanwhile since i started absolutely NONE of my rivals has have it is driving me insane
i started during the peak that is old tales event
lucky you didn't start in SEA or you won't be competitive in CA.
oh yes
still beatable
unlike mine, now he raise cp 400k more
400k from 2.4m is way different from 400k from 5m.

400k from 2.4m is still beatable no?
not with 2m teams
400k from 5m is barely much
8%
but average cp in my groups is 3.6-4m
he alone is 5.4m cp

time to buy core dusty
can't
time to get a 3rd job

Siren at 30k less CP already better than my DKW for campaign.... Finally I will have to wait skill reset for DKW now...
ur high cp dkw getting reset? 
maybe in half a year
SU won't allow me to be any sooner
man, I forgot to equip my Cindy with Tempering instead of Vigor for CA again...
it's because she give stun to raptures
Can't wait until Grave gets decked in front of Cindy while she mourns her ass with team has no b2
so excited for the Siren counterplay/Noah counterplay with my 2rl cindy team wawo!nnn
piss poor subhuman gamemode unironically makes me want to die in game
PvP is super fun with no Cindy, Noah, Scarlet, SBS, Blanc or rapunzel.
Dam...
Do u have Noah?
No sadly
Blanc?
my roster is really depressing, yes i do have blanc
Yes, can try sending ur roster 
U should have 2 attack teams
Scar Trina Jack
Biscuit SBS
No eayy
These should be ur go to attack teams
Im trying to do that 
So u just need to match ur attack teams to the right opponent
Ya i try to do thay
Oh actually, I think u cqn win, I forgot siren stun
Probably replace Rapi with a unit with better gen. Looks 4rl
Ah
Replace as in change the unit or just swap position?

change the unit
Need to update my 3 SA team
My roster my current SA team and not owned unit
cant, cause deficit
Actually, Rapi should be fine
Can go for it
i ee, was trying anchor
Can try these attack next time. Or use these def teams
oh 😭 the shotgun team really do crazy stuff
Okay bett
He has faster burst gen whereas shotgun just kills my p5 instantly
Oh bte no siren?
Scar Trina Siren Emilia Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy THelm Noise
Blanc SBS biscuit Noir Rumani
Ah 👌 tyyy
She’s still great, but she cant stun fast enough
Right 
Maybe for slower teams, now when ur opponent is running 3RL teams, yeah shes good
Get T Helm soon too!
replace SBS or Rapipi or Crown with Cindy. If CP doesn't change then you are good to go.
i mean CP of the 3rd team ofc
Any 1 need a specific cube like quantum on centi adjutant on Emilia etc...?
Hmm not really. Highest lv cubes, or tempering cube
Ty
U probably sweep ur bracket with ur sync 
The peakest SPA, Whale Arena
Yeh right lol I just afk ca
whats a good counter to scarlet,noah,jackal team?
Blanc
Noise and tank it
noise, noah, cindy, helmT, rumani will do?
Noise Noah SBS Jackal maybe
@quick lake can you link me the spa team layout again?
the propaganda teams?

thankies
Npp
do you have the moran team?
Should be there, under SAnis teams
Moran Biscuit SAnis flex flex
SAnis no replacement?
not really 
man 
Its just a really strong setup, like scar-jack
I mean u can build other sort of teams with Moran
Like Moran Bay
I was thinking liek
Moran Trina etc.
I did Moran Rumani Bay Cindy THelm, pretty good
I see
idk. Moran Trina doesnt seem that good imo
I think CA there were some Moran Trina Cindy teams, but not sure how those turned out
Wasnt that common in CA at least
100% wr 

Expensive team
Lololol this MK09 guy really wants to move from 7 to 6 for some dumb reason. I'm surprised I make him waste hundreds, sometimes thousands of gems every season 
what is this?
nihonjin tester?
jp CA data
where can i see that
pm u
@raven plover holy moly what happened
yea hes my kryptonite 
wow pulled through i thought i was done
Just recently got Siren, Blanc, Trina, Helm treasure and jackal. Looking to overhaul my pvp teams.
cya in the final! 
lol
wanna see hwo my matches went?
2 sweeps 
my alice lost

no bad RNG this time
we did it rheax 
yay, well deserved 🙏
i should have lost to dis guy
yeah 🙂 I'm going to post mine later just taking over Poland atm
leave Poland alone

i intended to sacc pascal but he burst instead


lost to the guy that always gets in top 8
decisive won by him cause he has higher doll investment/cp investment in his pvp units my noah 1-1-1 and noise 4-4-4

here's the result
soda op
what a sweep
if you want any recording of any round I'm free to do now
🧹
previous winner out in group stage lmao
Should I replace mana with trina or jackal? i lack hella lot of burst gen
good start
0 OL makima LOL
idk but i'm prob never changing this team
4 shotguns into jackal 
friggen miracle happened
it was over before the match even started
Well yeah, simply put if you don't have at least 2.5RL, your team will die before you can burst. I'd replace Laplace too.
Top team losing here, is it 2RL cindy losing to 2.5RL cindy?
Or is top team not quite 2RL?
cindy hits has a delay and can be blocked by slower noah quite easily 
they fixed the bug where she cna kill people through noah invul
also his noah got stunned so yea
he bursted with centi
need to be 1st to enter?
yes
Thanks. I just put Laplace there because I liked her. I heard Hero would come to rescue you when you are in a pinch. but not really, I guess.

I was assuming 2RL would be fast enough to beat noah but the delay in cindy burst makes sense, thanks for clarifying
Cindy vs cindy, generally slower one wins
Dumbass purely luck-based worthless competition :/
they are not going to change it anymore
the last gameplay survey didnt have anything about ca in it 
so deal with it
dw we're still in beta 
i like that its ignorable
i just want more credits
@shell hazel breh my team got wiped by 2rl scarlet but redhood lived some how and soloed their entire team
, the poor bastard prob thought he had me, and i though he had me too, but nope redhood had him by the balls
I guess she procced her B2 and B3 and just healed herself.
Her B2 heal is pretty crazy tbh
It looks like siren stun hit pretty much at 2RL, thought it was slower in CA?
maybe, dosnt explain how hood lived but cindy died tho
maybe didnt crit on hood
and it crit on the other units?
Maybe. Even tho I never saw it happen.
mm how does one record this
it hits at 2.4-ish rl in CA amd SPA iirc 
Ok I need explanation. Wtf is with the enemy's Biscuit's damage?!
Maiden Buff? Plus high investment. That's wild
can we see the CPs?
It's from champion's, I'm not sure I can see CP here.
click the player profile pic
probably just more ele/atk on her
I thought CP doesn't affect CA
CP can tell how invested it is
@jagged mesa I will avenge you 

Screw it all, next time imma just try to create 3x strongest teams with 2-2.5RL and hope for the best...
CA a lot of luck also
I need to first make 3 super strong SPA teams to get into CA again
is it worth it to spam normal recruits to get noah? not having her seems very crippling
why we still can't watch replays from other groups 
@shell hazel
i want to see how other people managed to upset and win
will come back to this one in a bit, when I get out of this game 🙂
i cant explain it
Someone said that this thing wont exceed and go to waste even if you dont claim it?
the red coin thingie
yes, red coin will never be capped. But tickets caps at 9999
I see- I kinda need tickets so Ig I wont do the no claim thingie
Mihara in CA
here be some cat noises
oh wait my thing dont have sound
siren killing herself from cat is amusing
I suppose anyone can be in Mihara's place, they just gotta get killed.
My Rosanna team with way lower CP (barely developed, no OL or anything at 3/5 chars) just won against 2 other people's teams. Granted they were shit teams too, but still. I guess I'll be building Rosanna next.
Hmm... Rosanna + Siren? mad doctor vibes


Will probably die early this CA. Top 4 and Champion in by bracket 
lock in rheax 🗣️
yeah i will lose at top 64
I'm Top Defending, thoughts?
zeus out, wew
unironically builds bay
has 17% on helm
t1 win, t2 loss to Biscuit defender, t3 win, t4 win, t5 depend on if SBS die before you can Rapu B1 into Blanc B2 because Noir probably doesn't clean up
think Blanc takes 2 SG volley to kill
then SBS take 3?
so maybe dead before Rapu can B1
since 5th volley is on 2.5RL
wait actually it's only 4 SG team, not 5 SG so maybe if Blanc takes 3 volleys to die you might barely make it
I can see why everyone voted the other guy. lmao
So it looks like I might just squeak by. Very cool
it will depend on how much ele dmg the Drake has
probably check their investment, see if it's no doll no OL Drake
def no OL 😭
if you're very lucky it takes like 4 volleys to kill Blanc and then you're very comfortable
Here's the stats on my partially invested shotgun team. I'm with you guys. No ol
not even on drake? 
if you want you can search them in group stage and check how much their damage was in the replay but that's so much work

Drake has the helm. Viper has Helm and gloves
we can only see our own replays in group no?
nope
Yeah, they don't give out stat details for other teams besides your own fights
oh wow even better than predicted 
surely rouge hitting noir won't mess it up 
I got to make it to next round so I can give Russ some much-needed revenge

Is it over? Not too sure about 1, 4, and 5. 
Can 2.5RL Moran survive 2RL Cindy? 
3RL Indom SBS vs 4RL Indom Alice.
Scarlet looks uninvested, but probably still wipes the floor with 5.
SBS can mess other team indom since 3 slash proc lands on lowest def, which can outdamage rocket splash on Alice especially since she has SR15 doll and the rest don't so her HP is naturally higher
unless the opponent has endurance cubes on their other char to play around SBS proc
problem is the Biscuit is a big time waster
uninvest Scarlet should just get one shot by Ros
my moran comp ate a cindy burst and lived,
but their RH can still burst even if Scarlet dies
if i win thsi round of ca i'mma r15 doll my redhood
@tropic summit thanks for the help
(I gotta cheer myself now lol)
nice no problemo, keep it up to finals
oof doesn't look good... bad luck against that alice team slower indom 
if we look at it on the positive side of RNG, T5 could be a win and T3 could be a clutch tho
That's just how CA is I suppose. Just be lucky 
enemy SG team lacks rosanna to snowball, you gonna need to hope siren stays alive to burst
how am i third lmao
as for T5, rosanna may crit and kill both scarlet and RH even if linked if you lucky
as they should lose link on 1RL 
fingers crossed
check total wins from the top 3, you should've less than them
either that or coin flip if equal wins
Congratulations delusion sensei. Now go on to beat @raven plover with your Soda! 🔥
I think we in different league
You aren't tier 1 league? Maybe tier 2 then with Kent?
I'm in same league with valco renurya lazyrem iirc
Do you remember the one who won champ in your league last season?
sol 2nd place or won?
Or the one before
arland?
Yeah, that's tier 2 league for 2nd month players
Maybe not? 
most in my league are day 1 players though
I lost already 
See. That's why you should keep your old teams
probably rng for league 1 2 but both have day 1 players ig
Are you week one player?
didnt I tell you Im day 1 
But Delusion said he also day one and in another league. 
idk 
Maybe your league was the tier 2 one all along. 
I say both are tier 1 league but you get sp arena rng when shuffling
We automaticly assumed your league was tier one because it has merry and we didn't know anyone in Arland-Sol league that was day one players.
But maybe both are day one but Hoboman took players from easier bracket maybe. 
tiebreak is bugged since s1, we have a longstanding issue ticket but SU keeps on denying it #1360686809239261317 message
wait merry in my league
merry is lazyrem right?
if you can beat merry consider your cook as exquisite cousine
Merry didn't even get to semi final in the last 2 season... Maybe not even quarterfinals.
he's letting others win 
if anything it's pretty clear ppl got comfy on 5 or 6 archetypes
2RL noah
2RL scarlet
2.5RLhelm team
sg team
3RL indom
the helm team may or may not involve nero/moran or bay
add siren and soda variations to scarlet and noah teams
CA in a nutshell 
and my pre-season 1 teams wins against all those teams...except T5
2rl Noah is pretty rare in SEA. No winning team use it. 
my league
my 2RL noah is the only team with near 100% win rate, i'm thinking it's just overcommitting 
No reason to use 2rl Noah when 2.5Noah also catch Cindy the same
my league 1-4
that team needs helm or a good main dps if you don't use cindy+ they need good p1 and p5 or they will lose in groups
The problem is 2rl Noah lost to 2.5rl Noah. 
2.5RL noah with s.anis or what B3?
Even the Cindy mirror. The slow Cindy win 
the better cindy wins, unless they just go with the 2vs3RL
2.5rl is basically 3rl with CS. 
We also have Moran+Biscuit, Moran+Bay (not 2rl). .etc
I think I would try Moran Cindy next season. 
Time to shake up my build a but with ReiT dedicated team. 2 season for Emi is already enough. Idk if I pass the 1/4 round today. Would check tomorrow...
@swift mango you think Moran can keep a team alive against a 20 level diff Scar buffed by Trina/Siren?
You should test it in rookie
That test is on SP
There's no good Scar teams in rookie
The problem is that then could just CP diff you
Don't 
if your moran burst before scarlet nuke, you will tank, but that is if your team have the SR15s+tempering/vigor or dupes, the range for scarlet/trina crit dmg is wide
now...who is in p1?
<@&946725432554836008>
My Summer Anis can't equip tempering, currently SR10
But MLB
ASS won't survive Scar even with Moran buff. She would lose half HP to countee before scarlet even burst.
They just lazy
Waos
Im.not even using cindy this time
And I'm not using RH 
I'm tired now, gonna eep, that 5 rookie will not be used.
their scarlet too weak to kill RH here?
too weak to kill rh but strong nuff to kill cinder is weird
maybe their RH in full +5OL gear and maxed doll, whilst their Cindy not?
well damn. i lost anyway
that's my cindy and my rh, my cindy is wayyy mroe invested than my rh
the
theoretically i was supposed to win this matchup? how did i lose?
do i need to invest in a nikke harder?
i didnt know it applyed to tanking
elements do apply in arena
can't remember if scar elec code is disadvantaged vs RH iron code
i thought advantage only applyed to attacking
dayum, i just reroll all of them out.
ur sbs got sniped into oblivion by their liter boosted helm
and ur indom landed on noir
yeah. i saw noir get indom
while their team had liter buff they were eating good off of helm's burst heal
and out sustained u
and thus u die
so is it bad luck that my sbs got sniped?
no
ur sbs has highest attack it will always get sniped
that's how helm's burst works
damn
my matches:
qual 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ivTrTx0Q8o
qual 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5FoDTNwGfg
qual 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrGQX9e6NBM
yeah, my helm isnt treasure 3 yet
anyway i'm convinced indom team suck
my indom team won literal 0 match
my sac mihara rosana won every match
indom is hard to control without jackal for sure
also their alice + helm were targetting p5 it looks like? so Noir got smashed?
i had this happen
The feel when I have to SR5 Mihara 
i'm surprised they won given liter was front and centre p1 😄
mine's sr5

my Midhara is SR-5 as well
yeah. even rail thought id win
Not mid 
this is the other one i was technically supposed to win
team 1 is my sbs + indom comp
can see how they went above, I did lose one where my SBS got indom but failed to kill everyone lol
i know my team 1/2/3 won every match team 4 won 2 and indom team 5 won 0
team 1 is scac mihara
2 is scarlet
3 is cindy hood
my scarlet team does really well
I think I walk into top 32 btw, my opponent doesn't look that strong

honestly i just dont wanna screw around with indom anymore
i have bad luck with sbs blanc myself. not so much drunklet blanc
indom win rate is just garbage while my team with left over trash and rosana didn lose what?
my rosana team did well last season, this season its on fire
whats your rosanna team?
yes i lookes at your already
sec
ayyy
ha
i like hwo u have easier opponents
i stalked you already, mean while my rival in sp arena positioned teams to brick my comp
if this guy wins they're a whale btw
and he has easy fights while i'm dealing with people in similar weight class
idk they used helm, siren, anis and cindy in 1 comp
how are they supposed to win
core 4 siren is pertty nutty
Noir sniped your revive and your indom oof. Looks like it was because you were defending.
can tell from commander level to sync level as well
maybe zant can give me his magic rosanna team
i have core 4 siren. they rained for me so i let it cook
not magic literal my levt over trash filled with barely invested units, literal only qeq and mihara has pink gear
If you were attacking you would have won just bad rng
thank you sir
lol pink gear? ok so, what makes this team tick? any of em need to be built?
damn. midhara pvp
idk mihara dies then things happen prayage for winage
that the midhara sac everyone been talking about?
Lol mid dies, Rosanna gens a ton of burst. Mid "poisons" oppo with sustained damage. SGs cleanup
so ideally build rosanna up?
Yes and don't over doll mid if you want to meme with her
it took out these following teams:
what's with these pve teams
lol
mid sac may struggle against your current opponent 2RL scar
I wish they let us see the teams side by side this is so bad lol
midhara 
if they use scarlet on my sac team that's their loss
@coarse solstice great one can u explain what's going on with this one? #pvp-arena message
how does my hood live
you should win 5 if your indom comes off
glitch or some def lines ig
i do have a def line of 6%
maybe burst didn't crit
or giga invested rh?
rh is not close to cindy's level of investment

only thing ic an think of is rh get 44% def burst from rh bursting
but that wont put the def value higher than cindy's base by much
did she burst?
she prob did

lel
I'd be mad asf if i saw that 😭
RH burst is super strong if it gets going though
i wouldent know
but yes 1 is a freebie for the opponent

Only thing I can think of is your investment was higher than Scarlets buffs/investment. What OL lines do you have?
@shell hazel idk, for my team 4, its 50/50, helm might nuke sbs or rh into unexistance cuz they are 4rl, s no its not down to if i surive its down to if they surive
1 line fo def at 6% rest are pertty bad some bits of ele/charge speed/ charge dmg low values
gears are level 3 pink
Must have been enough. That's pretty cool though 💪
ye
hopefully it happens again because i have another 2rl scarlet coming up in top 16
Rl is rocket laucher right?
but in the context here it means speed basically
1RL = 1 second more or less
Ah i see, i was wondering what's 2.5rl 3rl 4rl
it's not the number of RL units you run which is what I assumed originally lol
Pray your sbs has more atk than rh 
that's not my team
that team is fighting my this team
nice trade 😄
blanc will not die easily though if she is invested, defender + biscuit immune
that 4 rl team gonna have a hell of a time landing indom because of this cat
vs a stall team though? I lean on the stall team

not terrible investment
uninvested stall team 
man I want to build all my dumb units like nero but too little resources too many units 😄
yeah it does lean on uninvested though 
meh if i win i win
if i lose i spank @shell hazel and call it a day
this guy been climbing the SPA ranks in my bracket and got 4th for this CA, and then proceeded to face plant 3 losses and crashed out 😄
bottom one here
oof
This could be me 
take his food so he'll always go hungry
but i want the 2 win frame

it's illegal
it's my turn (I doubt I invested enough to actually win it yet tbh)
i sware if i win this season ill sr15 my redhood's doll
man RH not even SR-15 😮
I'll snipe C3 
wanna see my hood lol?
Why woulsnt you anyway
this should be a given!
SR-5 💀


my poor RH no dupes
wow gear level 4 op
I got her in the first 100 pulls, and now I'm at 4000 pulls and not seen her more
Hime send me some luck please 

i only have 3 nikkes with level 4 pink gear and that's my highest 
those are my highest

I have a couple of 5 bits elsewhere like on Cindy, otherwise main team is like 2 ish
i have no level 5s
my main team aint even full level 4 yet
Who can predict this 
2 vs 4
hard to say, but ill bank on the team with rapunzel

that's a beefy moran
the moran is like my cindy's level of investment 
that is a beefy moran
and ym cindy is core 5
my highest cp in CA was Helm at 160K
Fr like damn 
but valid bc moran is top tier girl
man moran is liek the beeg sister i always wanted
Dumvb and reliable
Damn I beat a max core whale.
Undercooked moran
undercooked? no, just getting started 
you win! 😦
i cooked but it aint much done
I win our moran investment war
(she's also undercooked)
yeah mine is super basic atm but I wanted to put more work into her, just resources again
I must put her back in the oven
Well here ros win?
bruh i prayaged to rapunzel and she gabe me moran dupe
ros should win that no?
Should
Im just double checking my predictions
rapi b3 bs drake b3 but rosana staby stab rapi
viper and rapi getting shot up i think
I'm a little jealous of your core 1 RH 🥹 I only have one dupe
Oh you won before
or mihara
who defending tho, sg might rip rapi
oh yeah true
viper passive might prevent being shot
I got 140 ord tickets I know rumani is hiding in there somewhere
i did yes

Jin is up so he attac
brain pain dont want to think
I still say rosa team
but i think rapi team is not 3 rl so might suffer
She's with me 
@swift mango @tropic summit id like to hear yall opinions on this
Nice
5rl team, it prob ded
oh yeah it's over 
do u see rosana for sac
she's off somewhere else
in other words Jin prob wins
guy in my bracket has been gemming to keep his 3rd spot for CA and lost 2 seasons in a row in the elimination groups 
nailed it 🙂
blanc pfp clearly evil
bro build counter teams cuz he cant take me in spaa
I couldn't either tbh, too much lvl gap
ironically I have both rumani and maid soda yes
yes, as I suspected 
me too

et tu, Brutus?
you can't have em
maid soda dont look much like soda tho
yeah that is the one I don't got
Could I see your magic comp? I'll try better next time (if I have a next time). Tho somehow my full dmg shotgun squad one 2/3 times and against the 1st place was the only squad that won against them 
what? why blanc didnt trigger indom buff?

Then you need to get better at cooking. Use the time till next season to make better teams 
yeah that is weird, as she did burst in last match, assuming it's last match you mean?
it's almost like mihara dot went through indom
looks like it
they don't run anyone that can remove indom buff
lol well tbf I don't have a built Rosa, no Xanne. No fave on Drake, Viper, Laplace. 
omg
Rosa can be understood but not laplace treasure
Me not xanne, no drake treasure
But even tho i have rosa built and laplace still working on her but CA is mostly team building since cp does not matter
Which teams were you running?
Another reason why you lost t3 is because you're above the 15% cp deficit. now your loss makes sense bc you took much more dmg than usual
I'd skip t3 altogether
you could abuse cindy p1 with a scar comp
not weak
he got biscuit i lost him before 
didn't say that comp was weak. but cindy in p1 gives you a lot of burst gen, can be abused with a scar jackal comp for that reason alone
there's a vid somewhere showing that
where can i see the Japan CA data
t2 can be a moran preferably or blanc + def to counter sbs
classic 😭
Hey my group DID end up facing yours
whatcha mean? 
Gettem buster...

Yesterday I asked if adjacent groups will face each other, and kuwon said no it's random
kuwon might have meant in top 8
Ahh
you get through Neko?
but in the top 64 it's whoever is next to you
Really? Fine I will put B1 in a safer spot.
I see
really? moran can counter sbs? i didnt know it thank u
I'm pretty sure good for next one but there is a whale on the other side I'd have to beat 😛
I knew I was double cooked anyways
moran and biscuit
I'm getting hammered in SPA too so I think I'll lay low for a bit
stop getting jumped 
Say what now
You didn't even answer me if you're the NEKO that took me out
damn shes AR not good at burst gen 
You are not the cat I am looking for
I am not a cat I am looking for waves paw
its ok my other account is doing ok
one example, but if you are cp gapped then it's doro over
sbs can also be rh
Kinda worried about Scarlet who probably will fail to Nuke, Blanc might just die b4 burst, and Rosa actually can Nuke both Scarlet HelmT if the sacc fast enough
whichever shoyld be doable, but again double check cp before anything 

one is bayless, left team will outsustain most likely, the DPS are the same 
also rapu B1 will happen before bay B2 then helmT B3 one side will lose helm the other won't (bay tanks it)
Rail I got through I posted the vids earlier if you wanted to 🍿
both morans have dolls 
oh you're right 

it's gonna be about bay tanking helmT while the other team wastes the revive i guess
I haven't built moran before and pvp unit i just build 2/4 ovl gear so lack of cp 
Moran wins 


all you can do is pray to nuke
nah the 3rd guy lv so high so im trying to fight this 2nd guy any chance?
nobody believes in me
dont ask me about his t3 noah comp 
@wet crystal no product 23 today 
uhhh let's see
bro 
Thanks for the ping gotta log in to not lose my spot;;;
I'll show you when I have a chance, and I don't have Laplace treasured cause I thought I missed the boat and figured another unit would take her place at some point 😅
I believe, get revenge for me! In my case, I don't think they should be believing in me lol
@umbral belfry R?
im so far from you though
Both should be winnable but t2 is very risky, pref rumani p1 over noise or make that comp 2 RL
grave
lock in 🗣️
No dupe pls
noah
..
fk
I'm thinking of making a new acc...
you and me together suffering
both accounts were doro first pilgrim mold, then triple blue
replace biscuit with centi can make 2rl but lower cp 
what units are you still missing that you really want
besides noah
how bad is the drop 
Scarlet
what about outside of pvp
about 4k
you should still be free from cp deficit in that case
Hmm collab xludmilla prob? Tower purposes.. all I really need now is resources for investments
ah okay, so noah scarlet are chase for you, noah jackal for me
or cindy crown for ASH
2 chase pieces for each
I'll continue to pray to RNGesus


Hi, I am having some trouble countering this lineup. Anyone knows how to solve this?
Noise Jackal Helm Maxwell Noah
Can't seem to crack it consistently
maxwell 
How to beat???
Do you have a noah of your own?
Yeah, but for some reason I can't win consistently
centi cant did it but biscuit did
how a narrow victory 
I even have a cp advantage 😢
Jesus 
So no one knows. Got it
having a built moran would make that sm easier
🤔
The one thing I don't have is a built moran 🤣
Thanks for the brain trust though. Guess I will try to figure out what's not working on my side. 🤔
your team is on the left
@calm gull Could u let me stay 2nd a few days?
The 3rd guy has awakened and returned 
Very appreciate if u kick him down 

Thank you!
It's mine no it's mine
Will give it a try
no it's mine
use either of these 2
u could prob just shotgun cheese his noah aswell tbh
i run moran 4sg into defenseless noah sometimes
it dies before 2nd shot even goes off but my sg are invested from pve
drake eats noah for breakfast 
do you know where I can find this website? has the japanese CA team data

ya its like 70 ele drake with some atk too literally destroys it
no clue, maybe someone in the chat does tho
@eager mountain @quick lake @swift mango does that look familiar? 
Sweet! Thanks!
wtf is this?
the team or the website?
it appears you've encountered the finest copium 
oh I see, these are all the teams that use Moran
yeah percentage used and win rate
the reiT one could remotively make sense in certain scenarios 
invested reiT on single buff iirc is lethal
I see, take your time. You havr enough till mext season
although if no nikke die that team is gone 
Her team wide buffs are tiny 
you'd prefer anis? 
what is Rosanna doing there

Nah, but I can try to locate it later on
ty!
Have you searched on the JP panda channel? 
no but give me a link and i can try
アタッカーの厳選適当だし9段階手前くらいまで行けたらいいかなーくらいに考えてたのに撃破まで伸びてびっくりした
ブレッディも強いんですけどハーベスター撃破だけならセイレーン編成の方が素材少なく済みそうですねえ
00:00 はじめに
00:17 ハーベスタ...
Konnichiwa
-# It's not on that video

oh its @outer grail guy
I'll do what I can
I haven't updated my def for 2 months
Any thoughts? 

who's attacker/defender
Top attacker
win lost win
So Scarlet actually Nuke Cindy?
i just had a matchup like your T1 today, soda did stun but with noise cindy can survive and burst in time
lemme find le vid
Mind you I gave him 17 CS + Quantum
the issue seems to be noise giving enough leeway to prevent single buff scarlet (trina) to wipe
kinda kills the point of soda 
although a noise-less cindy probably would die
im playing genshin rn I will take ur place next 
if anything more reasons to run bay/noise teams to prevent this
since you want b1 also in p1 due to siren, this works out well to counter both
does bay stop cindy nuke
@calm gull dont listen to him listen to me rinn senpai
reduces its dmg but doesn't stop it unlike single hit nukes like scarlet, reit, pmaid...
Yes, I have match up and Cindy die without Noise burst
ye it's reasonable
without sustain/DR, should be lethal
I think you can even take my place ngl,
my def is doodoo.
there's a chance as such that your scarlet may lose that one
you need your soda to be faster than their noise
e.g. 1.9RL against 2.5RL
and youre also higher sync than me, youre like what 270+ lv sync
da phuck who the hel ar u 
if your B3 hits when their B1 goes off, it might not be lethal
if your B3 hits before their B1, likely lethal
Just checked, they're 1.916
How about P23 comp tho
winnable?
Feel like both Scarlet and HelmT should clear her pretty fast and allow promote to 2RL
you're breaking jackal link on 1RL and will kill scarlet on 2RL
p23 should die within 2RL, you're saccing
yes, 0 gear 0 doll 0 invest
Thanks Rail for the helps, and Rinn!
It's 3AM I'll back to sleep lol
Maxwell bursting in pvp
Yeah I'm sure she will fire her burst shot once she is already dead and buried.
use your T2 against their T1, skip T2, scarlet can stay against enemy T3
theyre in our spa bracket
@umbral belfry @wet crystal i just checked SPA and ITS A BLOODBATH DOWN HERE
how tf am I qualified
What happened 
how are you having trouble with this guy @limber rampart ?
maybe fix your def
need help with main pvp team*
I just run the team 1 i run for sp arena for main arena but was thinking of swapping neon out for someone else
Hello
You belong in #team-building
I cook pvp sometimes 
Poisoning people is a crime

Here's replays of my League (qualifiers) matches for Champion Arena S3 teams. My T2 (XMica Noah Emilia) was my wildcard and its looking like it needs some improvements still. Hopefully we get some new PvP units soon.
- S3 Teams: https://youtu.be/FaVUCw0BB5s
- S3 League: https://youtu.be/9JkbQ1ddAaA
If you want to keep up with the latest PvP ...
my cp not enough 
My upcoming matchup sucks though. Lotta hard counters. Depending on their investment, I could actually lose 2-3 since T1 and T5 are investment checks for my opponent
oh yeah, his cp is 900k+
a kind good luck to you 
let's go champion
its ok you can take 2nd until spa reset ig
I'll gatekeep 3rd 
how much time it take for this single match
Rookie
CP pad or 3RL indom RH
blanc rh biscuit trina drake
SP ARENA:
blanc rh biscuit anis drake
anchor trina alice siren viper
auto
quantum lvl 1 on trina and viper to hit 3RL, else it's 3.5RL
ty so much luv luv emuach

wut? I don't see a change 
omg thank you. I gotta figure out how to make these kinda of teams. is lower RL just better and what to aim for normally
from what i read its like an estimate of how many seconds til your team bursts
idk how the heck did I win tho 
give this a 5-10 min read, should give you the basics you need
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/
then try mess around with your teams via this to learn speed:
https://nikke-deck.web.app/
lower RL means you burst faster
get familiar with the main batteries (clip RL, clip SG, helmT) - see attached SS below
@tropic summit btw hows your position last CA 
here u ar @tropic summit
could u cook me a new sp arena lineup pls? 👉👈 Finally i got biscuit recently
I have used ur lineup for 3 months 
Rip, Ein's B3 did nothing, I need more mats.
pretty average, china has got some strong built teams and i've no SG or proper 5th team built yet 
you can copy my cinderella team
A lot of the time nukes just don't do the damage needed, single target bursts are just better it seems.
I have no SG built either 
Does a nuke need to be 10/10/10 SR 15, attack and elemental rolls on a full set of overloaded gear to nuke the enemy team?
noah core first condition 
ouh...
should be ok with centi then
centi biscuit noise
dmn no rosanna too
no, depends in the main dps(unit), the comp you use and enemy team
you want rossana just to beat scarlets team amyway
on average lvl 7 burst is minimun required, then some nikke may require 1 or 2 buffers
you also want 20-30atk% OL ideally
pmaid: 2 buffers (RH + blanc or RH + general B2)
scarlet: 2 buffers (1 if trina)
cindy: 1 buffer (noise or RH typically)
reiT: 1 buffer (RH or mari)
ein: 2 buffers (RH + blanc or RH + general B2)
where is kilo?
lol crown gets deleted
eh indeed she should get some love 
was hoping i'd see some in CA but seen 0 so far
p4 is save for her, but not many people use p5 defender+biscuit or makima in fast teams
use linked units in p1+check cp, remember that p1 is a weak position and you also have to check elements in the enemy team
No linked unit to use in P1
rh/helm link?
It's auto loss if RH or Helm is used as a B3
biscuit makes single target bursts useless
they also use moran, moran b1 is damage reduction+taunt, all ein hits will go to moran
and that team also use biscuit
someone in SEA CA use her till final/semi iirc
I see, yeah I need just 50 billion damage nuke
just use a real nuke, no x hit units
maybe if I was fighting them at a 50% defict I could punch through biscuit
Rei T fails
Rei T needed crown and RH B1 to do some damage
do you have biscuit?
Yeah
ssrapi?
I will get deficted
if I use biscuit and a nuke unit
I will say the other person has a insane amount of combat power, it takes using my entire campaign team to match them in combat power
Defict sucks
I am the lowest acc level in this top 64, am I very much, cooked. 
centi can make that team 2rl but in case i tested, centi make biscuit focus to centi and rumani then be wiped after that because of cindy death 
I wonder how they have so much sync
I think they are a whale maybe
they shouldn't have that much
same as me last season 
not enough sync diff at that lvl, the cp they get is from OL lines, you can get a decent amount with 2 lines in each piece, at some point you will have to aim to a good 3rd line then fill all the lines with effect the unit use, because ATK is really easy and you cant defend
last season I got paired with 2 lv500 1lv400 people.
Is there a chart some where that shows sync level cost past 200?
I'm curious about something
hmm
Ah right I get it, they aren't from my bracket, their bracket is older then mine that explains the sync level difference.
Okay i gave it a read and I think i got the idea. Its still kinda hard for me to make like a full proof team but i get how to mess with the teams to get a certain burst gen. The best I can do with any combo of my units is definitely 3RL lol. But after messing with this and with the team recs you gave, do you recommend i replace viper with rumani then? I dont have quantum cube and using rumani would definitely get me to 3RL
You're still early game, just push campaign to avoid cp deficit
and unlock more content that'll eventually make your team stronger
gotcha thats what ive been doing. Just at a reaaaaally rough deficit rn so im just thinking of how to improve other parts of the game for me









