pvp-arena

[pale knoll]

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Because there aren't enough blue whales to fill 50 slots.

[pale knoll]

[vagrant ravine]

my server is SEA

[coarse solstice]

Wipe out again

I joke but my helm still needs a helm

[umbral belfry]

[coarse solstice]

Oh and misses urawhat wanted to lurk on this discord now 🫡 so I have to behave @zealous tapir

[zealous tapir]

@coarse solstice since when do you behave

[wanton island]

she in our server pocket?

[umbral belfry]

Married nikke couple?

[coarse solstice]

No she's on an old global server.

[umbral belfry]

Cute

[umbral crown]

you wanna get banned saying that?

[tropic summit]

attack teams are based on the opponent you're facing, those are still ok as long as the logic remains:

T1 (scarlet team) is a fast 1hitko nuke, only countered by 2RL noah or bay (or mirror or 2RL indom on same speed and CS%)
T2 (helm team) is expecting to absorb enemy nuke within 2RL or 3RL then just outsustain/stall

if he changes to emi or those above, you'll need to re-arrange

[tropic summit]

missus will need to understand a man has needs

[wise horizon]

does this look ok? @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

looks good, T1 kills pre burst, T3 will kill with double buff nuke (or triple buff counting helm)

[wise horizon]

thanks a lot

[swift mango]

Are you sure they don't do both?

[tropic summit]

that's... a possibility

[atomic wolf]

You stupid motherfker

You want to get banned or something

[coarse solstice]

Didn't know that was a thing my bad ***

[atomic wolf]

Even if you edit now mods can still see your logs just watch your ass if they ever catch glimpse of your name in game

[tropic summit]

think we saw way worse in this chat before

he'll probably be fine

competing and leviathans together... now that's a bold combination

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

leave em gathering dust on their little throne

having to play a gacha game on easymode would just feel empty

might aswell just play a singleplayer game

[umbral belfry]

will today be the day i clear behemoth normal (no)

[tropic summit]

i believe in you, you got this hime

[umbral belfry]

my cindy is so scuffed

mayhaps i just brute force it with good ol sbs and alice team

[coarse solstice]

Hime I cursed myself giving you crap about mirror.... Been stuck there for a week after I got passed 350k

[umbral crown]

its against ToS

[umbral belfry]

well well well

[umbral crown]

not everyone here is a good people, just a ss and you are done

[umbral belfry]

me when you told me i sucked when i was stuck at MC:

[tropic summit]

is it really that easy? seems very easy to fake

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-angry-xenoverse-2-gif-7335905850737743765

i had to lock in

[tropic summit]

nowdays with AI you'd fake anything

[umbral crown]

not that easy i would say

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

i think you needed to take ss showing your whole screen , not just the test

[tropic summit]

so timestamp and all

[umbral crown]

showing the servers you are in and stuff

[tropic summit]

that'd take some special PoS though

since it matters 0 to them

[umbral crown]

you never know

[tropic summit]

although if i had a chance to do that with one of my annoying whels... nah i'm not that petty

[umbral belfry]

crash out rail

[tropic summit]

did you see the new mihara?

[umbral belfry]

i did

[tropic summit]

they made her so insanely pretty

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[pale knoll]

You more

[tropic summit]

she makes my knees a tad weak

[coarse solstice]

That new skin .... Has me weak

[tropic summit]

exactly

[grizzled bone]

did everyone have a nice time with CA?

[umbral belfry]

costume gacha it captures me again

[tropic summit]

is that sarcasm

[coarse solstice]

worth it

[umbral belfry]

i had fun even though i lost

[grizzled bone]

it's a sincere question but also sarcasm lmao

[coarse solstice]

I had fun learned a lot about PVP

[tropic summit]

answer is both yes and no, had better expectations... but at least betting was for the most fun interesting

[grizzled bone]

i've been bogged down with work so I haven't been checking here at all

[umbral belfry]

my favorite part was losing money

[tropic summit]

not the touch the grass, we losing you

[coarse solstice]

Biggest 2 complaints more people should make the cut and better rewards

[grizzled bone]

I found the betting confusing since there seems to be a pattern of how match ups are done based on how you placed your treams

[grizzled bone]

idk if i consider work touching grass

[tropic summit]

true... more like real life obligations

fortunately there's easter now, got a few holidays in between, shorter weeks

[grizzled bone]

not for me

[coarse solstice]

I have to stare at a screen all day so I def need to touch real grass

[grizzled bone]

take your screen outside, easy

[umbral belfry]

i just take care of animals

[tropic summit]

hang in there

[grizzled bone]

look at this lil bongo cat i got though for my desktop

[tropic summit]

i love animals... sometimes i regret not chasing that aspiration but perhaps it will be for another life

[coarse solstice]

CNA for 11 years now I work in mental health. Fun stuff but fresh air with out screens is OP

[umbral belfry]

it's never too late

[grizzled bone]

just get a human

they're animals too

[coarse solstice]

I have 2 ❤️

[tropic summit]

oh hell no, i'd rather a doggie or cat

i'll let someone smarter reproduce

[coarse solstice]

I big one and a little one they cool as hell but doggo might be better some days

Get a hold of Collosal and make a super baby with genius dna

[tropic summit]

[grizzled bone]

[unique wagon]

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire! Season 6: PvP Edition

Q2: Which of the following units would die fastest to Scarlet in PvP from counterattacks?
A. Viper
B. Drake
C. Maiden
D. Noir

[tropic summit]

viper, water code, assuming all units are same synchro and invest

the ABC of sacc

although the type of question is interesting, should probably make an actual quiz

[unique wagon]

This is season 6. Five seasons were done over in #questions.

[tropic summit]

there were five seasons

[lone sequoia]

neve

[unique wagon]

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire! Season 6: PvP Edition

Q3: True or False - (1) Blanc gives indomitability to the unit with the lowest HP percentage; (2) Biscuit provides immunity + recovery to any ally who receives an attack that drops their HP below 50%, up to two times.

A. True; True
B. True; False
C. False; True
D. False; False

[coarse solstice]

D. False false

Blanc gives indom to lowest health total not lowest health percentage. Biscuit grants invincible for 5 seconds. Not immunity

[summer copper]

and not any ally

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit maybe i belong here

[unique wagon]

The guys over in #questions mostly answered wrong. Congrats.

[tropic summit]

rank 11 still the same

everyone throwing themselves at it

[whole pawn]

one can dream for challenger

[unique wagon]

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire! Season 6: PvP Edition

Q4: True or False - (1) Cindy's decoy acts as an additional character and therefore dilutes damage from Sequential Attacks; (2) it also dilutes Distributed Damage Attacks.

A. True; True
B. True; False
C. False; True
D. False; False

[tropic summit]

you can when you start investing in your pvp units

[unique wagon]

Why r u tagged by accident

[whole pawn]

i m oling noise

itsn just takes time to find ressources

[shell hazel]

nice def on 11 though

[shell hazel]

I can't wait to || hug || her

[umbral belfry]

[unique wagon]

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire! Season 6: PvP Edition

Q5: If a unit launched 10 sequential attack(s), and there were only 4 Nikkes alive in the opposing team, and one of them taunted this unit, what would happen? Assume no decoy and no one dies.

A. The taunter takes all the hits.
B. The taunter will take 3 hits, one other unit will take 3 hits, the rest will take 2 hits.
C. Sequential attacks cannot be taunted, and everyone has the same chance of receiving an instance of sequential attack. Therefore, it is impossible to determine how many hits a unit will take (can be 1~10 depending on luck).
D. Sequential attacks cannot be taunted, and therefore 2 random units will take three hits and 2 others will take two.

[coarse solstice]

Leaning towards D. I don't see it mentioned that the decoy counts as another nikke. Just that it stops sequential damage.

• Also there would be damage reduction because of the decoy absorbing hits that are not AOE for Cindy. But the reduction wouldn't be do to it splitting distributed damage.

[unique wagon]

This was already researched btw.

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire! Season 6: PvP Edition

Q6: What was Keripo's bracket before he was defeated?

A. He was not defeated.
B. Top 2
C. Top 4
D. Top 8

[coarse solstice]

As long as the taunter was alive and taunting it would take the all of the hits

[coarse solstice]

Top 4 lost to Zeus

[unique wagon]

[swift mango]

Maiden 100% because the others will have SR doll and OL while she come naked.

[unique wagon]

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire! Season 6: PvP Edition

Q7: Tech attacked someone with his carefully designed attack team "4 Clip SGs + Makima in P1". The enemy team consisted of 5 Clip SGs. What could possibly happen?

A. Tech's team will win.
B. Tech could encounter a bug that prevent him from attacking.
C. Both options above could happen.
D. Tech would get banned.

[fathom rock]

My pvp knowledge is 1/100 what did you expect

[wet crystal]

I know my team won't change much with the amount of left before the next CA since I'm still investing on my PVE team and saving material for new Nikke, but I just saw Mori... is that my free Noah substitute

[unique wagon]

Who Wants To Be a Millionaire! Season 6: PvP Edition

Q8: Unit A activates a skill that attracts all enemies, then a moment later, Unit B in the same team activates a skill that attracts all enemies too. Assuming both would expire at the same time, what could happen?

A. Enemies, when not using multi-target attacks, will target Unit B because their Attract is newer.
B. Enemies, when not using multi-target attacks, will still target Unit A.
C. Enemy will alternate between Unit A and B.
D. None of the above answers are correct.

[hushed kelp]

Wont be able skill reset before next CA

[wet crystal]

also what is that?

[unique wagon]

Skill reset. Temporarily, you can reset skills of at most 3 Nikkes (unless you have some saved up from before).

[leaden canyon]

If this is gettiing beat whats a good switch up

[hushed kelp]

3? I have like 15 of those skill reset mats, do they limit your use of them?

[unique wagon]

Moving Noah to P2, Noise to P1, Rumani to P5, and shifting everyone to the left.

[atomic wolf]

what kind of horse shit questions are these

[leaden canyon]

alrighty I'll try it

[wet crystal]

I have 600 silver tickets and pilgrims evade me like the plague (all these noahs and scarlets looks so nice)

[fathom rock]

You can use the 15 then when event comes

[unique wagon]

Noise Noah Cindy HelmTr Rumani is ok.

[atomic wolf]

why are they even trying to take top 10

[hushed kelp]

Ah k

Thx

[hushed kelp]

Having taunt p2 accelerates enemy burst no?

[unique wagon]

Depends if Noise taunt is latest.

[unique wagon]

[swift mango]

Top 31-40 may want to take rank 11 as its the highest they could hit. Other lower rank might want to hit him too for more gem.

[atomic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hood-nikke-gif-2466142649033494439

sucks to be below top 10

[fathom rock]

B????

[swift mango]

D. Both unit got wiped before the burst.

[fathom rock]

Im about to sr10 blanc

Then i realize sr10 wont fix this and i just need 2rl

[raven plover]

is that blanc with bigor / tempura?

[swift mango]

Think I should lock these 2 piece CS and reroll for ATK?

[fathom rock]

Tempering yea

[swift mango]

Crit+Ele out.

[raven plover]

1st line lock 2nd ok

[fathom rock]

1st line lock

I wouldn't

But on vest ele out atk in

[swift mango]

In RH buffed team ATK isn't very important but in Miranda buffed team 10% AtK is like 6-8% more dmg.

[fathom rock]

Investing mirandaT for emi

Maybe just dont roll?

[raven plover]

full reroll

[keen vapor]

B?

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

With Miranda 2 buff Emi nuke is a certain death. Even Noise buffed Cindy wouldn't survive

[swift mango]

Should happen often to u.

[fathom rock]

But thats a lot of mats

[raven plover]

its cheap for blood

[keen vapor]

[fathom rock]

How does blood have infinite mats for pvp
Probably just not doing raid and pushing with pvp units

[swift mango]

[fathom rock]

Blood is cheaper

[keen vapor]

How to get Anchor I want one

[fathom rock]

🔮

[swift mango]

If I had infinity Mats for Arena my Scarlet would have 4 Crit 1 Ammo 4 ATK 1 Ele 2 Cdmg already.

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

Pull her last time

[keen vapor]

I tried

I really did
I skip Mast and she's the one I got at 2 limit break out of standard pulls

[swift mango]

Maid Anchor only good for raid anyway

[keen vapor]

And Kraken

[swift mango]

You only need phase 7

[keen vapor]

I get 6

[swift mango]

Just need SBS with 4 Ele

[keen vapor]

Already done

[swift mango]

Have you tried ignore the tentacle at the end 15 seconds and only shotting at core ?

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[swift mango]

Also, if It's last burst don't burst with Alice but HelmT instead?

Also reset your app before you hit AI?

[keen vapor]

Reset app no

[raven plover]

reset app you get 120 fps and stage 7

[lilac pier]

Dont use m anchor when u cant hit 7?

[swift mango]

So many things to do for non whale flebs in Arena now.

ATK line, CS lines, CP 3 lines because not a whale.

1/3 of my rock since I started got stuck on Scarlet/crown/Jackal for nothing also doesn't help ...

Now I would likely need HelmT and Emi with 22-24% CS after it's all done too....

All the while keeping their CP high with CP pad to boost because SpA still exists.

Idk what to prioritized now.

Maybe CS lines first.

Then ATK lines second.

Idk if 2 months would be enough.

I give Up on Crown. Now I will lock 2 lines and get her Tier 1-2 CS-Charge dmg to higher tier for CP pad and done.

No point trying to improve her anymore.

[quick lake]

Why crown

Just prioritise cs I guess

[swift mango]

CP pad for campaign.

[pale knoll]

[quick lake]

I dont think I have enough exp fodder to lv gears

[swift mango]

CS only to 10%+ is enough. When everyone has CS, none have any. Without enough ATK Scarlet, Emi, ReiT won't wipe without RH buff.

[quick lake]

Yeah, nukers need some atk%

[swift mango]

Crown has many tier 1-2 CS, Cdmg at line 2-3. I though I might as well roll them off but they just won't go away even after 69+ rocks in.

So I will give up and just improve those line to higher than tier 1-2

[pale knoll]

So bricked

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

Stop wasting rocks

[pale knoll]

Literally burning your rocks

And for a tad bit cp padding for campaign

[swift mango]

Because it's crown. If it was any other units I won't care

[pale knoll]

With both of my accs I have even cared about her lines, just 1 each gear and good to go

[quick lake]

I think only pvp players think of rolling just for cp-pad

[swift mango]

Because you are lucky. Try getting 1 line on everyone of her gear initially.

[pale knoll]

She has only 1 or 2 lines on her gears

She has low cp

[swift mango]

That's why you CP is low and you need to mald at 42% deficit instead of 39%.

But my Crown isn't much better after wasting so much rock on her. Just because high tier line won't drop.

[pale knoll]

I don't mald

Just don't be bad and you'll get it done quickly

[swift mango]

Havalder don't mald.

[pale knoll]

Havalder

[swift mango]

Hamalder then

[pale knoll]

Gtg have a nice one blood

[swift mango]

Cya

[rich quail]

I do it

I just did it to get Laplace cs from phase 3 to phase 9

Got 1319 cp from it

[quick lake]

Same, i do it too. 2-3 rocks just for that 1k cp

Across multiple units

[umbral crown]

Imagine malding pve

[quick lake]

I needa mald, later my union kick me

[quick lake]

My PvE units kinda trash alr

[umbral crown]

Just come to global, i will not kick you out

[umbral crown]

Me after skill resets

Yu will see the rea brick

[quick lake]

Rosy reseting Rapi

[umbral crown]

Crown as well

[quick lake]

???

Rosy pvp main now

[umbral crown]

Not like i use her besides kraken

[swift mango]

Only if it works.

My Jackal pieces all come with 1 tier 8+ line and 2 x tier 1-3 lines.

But after locking 1 line and reroll more than 10 times only tier 1-3 come out for the other 2 line. Like what the actual F.

[quick lake]

Make sure u keep up sync with ur bracket

[swift mango]

This game hate me

[umbral crown]

They alreay have 2 tiers above me

But i keep growing cp

[quick lake]

I spent 30+ rocks, got nothing too

[umbral crown]

C3 is 385

C5 which is now c8 is 380

[swift mango]

I mean it should be piss easy to improve tier 1-2-3 line right? Because there are 15 tiers total? But no.

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Don't steal my doro

[umbral crown]

Imagine 380 losing to 356

[keen vapor]

I know I'll use Rapi as long as Bay exists

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Here's your doro.

[umbral crown]

All yours

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

And it's gone.

[umbral crown]

Echo was slow

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

But at the end all of them will have 2 tiers over me unless i use wallet kun

And the whale about to 5 tiers

[quick lake]

Rosy CA champion next

[umbral crown]

Thats the goal, all in for the besto frame

[swift mango]

This is gonna be hard for you over time. I think it's about time you 777 your crown. 777 your Rapipi.

101010 Helm, 101010 Cindy, 101010 Scarlet...

And keep up with the campaign.

[umbral crown]

Helm max skill, scar max skill , cindy max skill, crown 777 and rapipi 4/10/10

But now its ime for pvp

[swift mango]

Where are you now in campaign?

[umbral crown]

21-28

Close to motherwhale

[swift mango]

Your synch level?

[umbral crown]

357

[swift mango]

Why Rapipi 41010 and not 7710 though?

[umbral crown]

No idea, i was just upgrading when she was released and then forgot about her for a whike haha

I jist use her for B1 in pilgrim tower, elysion and kraken

[swift mango]

Both Crown and Rapipi with purple doll?

[umbral crown]

But those towers have the rest of the units to carry

[umbral crown]

SR0, yeah

[swift mango]

You maybe could clear Mother whale at 361. It's the level that most average Joe clear her.

[umbral crown]

Yeah, i will just be patient

[swift mango]

Then sprint to ch26-27

[umbral crown]

I clear nihi in the first try tho

[swift mango]

You could get to ch25 at least asap after you clear mother whale.

[umbral crown]

Waos

That would be a real stonk

[swift mango]

I was clearing mother whale at 361 and ran straight to ch26 afterwards.

The chapters after ch21 are easy up to ch26.

[swift mango]

Wait wait, do you use Rapipi in Campaign?

Rapipi+Crown+Scarlet+Cindy+HelmT?

[swift mango]

Anyway, hope you get your RH soon.

That would improve your Campaign clearance capacity as well as for use in Arena...

Maybe the dev would remove the CP diff system in SpA, maybe...

[umbral crown]

nope, just 1 time

[umbral crown]

if they do many whales would be mad

[swift mango]

Did you OL her gear?

[umbral crown]

yeha, she has full OL

and like 40 ele or so

[quick lake]

no way

[swift mango]

Then why not use her in Campaign?

[umbral crown]

i do not know

i kinda use the pvp units there

[swift mango]

Use her for easy time clearing campaign...

You had everything ready...

[umbral crown]

probably

hahah

[swift mango]

Use them as burst 1+2 with HelmT and 2 other burst 2.

Equip Rapipi+Crown with Resilience cube. Your resilence cube is lv 7 right?

For using with Summer Anis at least?

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhhhh-gif-7739071221619055385

lv5

[swift mango]

Oh well, if you don't want to do campaign with them, can't be helped.

[umbral crown]

i focused on tempura and quatum

[swift mango]

Do it for you S.Anis.

[umbral crown]

lets hope next UR i get enough chips for 2 levels

i used rapipi when a chap was fire weak

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-rezero-gif-20195307

[uneven granite]

Needing some help with teams, trying to see if there's a team comp that'll help me get past Challenger 10

[quick lake]

Can send ur roster

[uneven granite]

I pretty much have every Nikke, minus some colab's, winter units, and Mana

@quick lake Will this info suffice? Whenever you have time.

[quick lake]

Send ur full box, sorted by cp

Under nikkes tab

[uneven granite]

Aight, I'll have to open the game back up

[quick lake]

Where did the pic go

[quick lake]

Can send ur roster here once u have them

[umbral crown]

cooks ready for CA?

[calm gull]

nope

can't wait to get unfair drafting

[raven plover]

Im using the same cooks

[vapid lake]

im cheering

[umbral crown]

If something works, no need to fix it

[uneven granite]

@quick lake I got muted for an hour from sending too many images.

[stiff rapids]

Help me build my teams for PvP

I don't have Emilia

[sleek imp]

Im challenger 8 and this is challenger 1 in my bracket... Tell me this is not a 3000$ whale 😭😭

[oblique ridge]

You don’t need to defeat challenger 1 to reach CA, fortunately

[sleek imp]

I can actually hit challenger 4 in my bracket already, though I need to do it before the SP resets so no one drops me

People be passing the walls at lvl 110 commander lvl like what 😭😭

[oblique ridge]

Spamming pulls until breaking through the wall is the wallet option

[swift mango]

Hobo was champion right?.

[swift mango]

If you aren't synch 200 you don't enter CA

Guess only that one guy in your bracket entering CA, regardless other guys rank.

[swift mango]

Trying to use Emi+Miranda nuke in 5 teams. Not much success this far. If only Miranda guarantee crit target 2 units.

I also really need XAnne for sacc team.

[raven plover]

yes, and once is enough

[umbral crown]

but miranda giv sto 2 highest atk units

[swift mango]

Go for that 50 wins frame u coward.

[umbral crown]

once is never enough

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/lullaby-tom-and-jerry-cat-falling-asleep-goodnight-gif-12192381

[umbral crown]

be inmortal there so rivals will have motivation to play

[covert lintel]

[swift mango]

The guarantee Crit on skill 2 isn't.

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

what do you guys think about 3rl blanc sbs vs 3rl blanc emi? which is better? is there a matchup where one of them wins, but the other doesn't (aside from taunter biscuit)

[raven plover]

wtf this cao cao guy is lit

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Blanc SBS can't win same speed 2 healer (+bay), or Moran+Bay+Life steal. Cindy can certainly one shot.

[spiral onyx]

There's a reason he's a known name in the many thousands of years of Chinese history lol

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

This also bring about another problem, that the team weak to Helm one shot.

[coarse lake]

I'm sure I saw an indom sbs win vs moran bay though

[umbral crown]

so need to be create to kill her faster

[coarse lake]

my problem with emi is that emi might fail to kill decent invest moran if nuke doesn't kill

[spiral onyx]

There's also the fact that you can attribute insightful quotes to pretty much anyone

[coarse lake]

keripo what do you think about indom sbs vs indom emi for champ? which one is better?

[swift mango]

Last CA season I was really unlucky with HelmT team. Always one shot wrong target. I used SG+SR in same team with the purpose of displace Blanc indom but they hit the right target because I killed everyone else before Blanc buff.

But HelmT is still threatening against the right team...

[coarse lake]

you mean you killed their p1? or p5

[hushed kelp]

Just spent 30 rocks on helm but finally got decent lines

[swift mango]

Helm one shot is often 2rl though. Emi needs to be 2.5rl or slower because else she loses to 3rl Noah.

[swift mango]

Last match in CA, my HelmT team killed both p4-5 before Blanc p3 with half HP left burst and indom ASS. (ASS lower ATK than biscuit because why not).

---

But Emi+Miranda don't have that luxury.

[coarse lake]

with just your helmt doing the dmg to p4 p5?

[swift mango]

HelmT+RH+Noir.

[coarse lake]

were you attacking or defending

[swift mango]

Ofc defend, else I won't lose that bad.

[coarse lake]

so it's your noir hitting their p4 p5

[swift mango]

My teams always get countered by team order last CA.

My best teams either getting countered match up or flex. Never once I got a good match up when I counter people strong team instead.

[umbral crown]

Pray she meets rosanna

And i was always attacking

[swift mango]

Nah, with my luck I will meet 2RL HelmT+Bay/Noah with my ScarTrina team

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

yeah this is what I'm worried about with emilia

[umbral crown]

Yeah, helm +bay is am interesting and strog team

[swift mango]

Your Emi is kinda weak to not be able to kill even Moran.

So maybe not use her.

[umbral crown]

Happemed to me in top 64, my scar trina vs bay helm

[swift mango]

Ah I see, that biscuit is there with all that buff from ASS and stuff.

And you don't even have biscuit in that team.

[coarse lake]

another one, although I suppose rh indommed

[umbral crown]

Bay team looks 2 rl

[swift mango]

There, this guy eat good with his Blanc displacement.

I only met jank team who ignore it.

[swift mango]

Anyway, ASS+Blanc team is better than SBS+Blanc, especially if you make biscuit higher ATK than ASS to be hit by HelmT.

[swift mango]

It is

[umbral crown]

The new trend

[swift mango]

Need to fish that counter to Scar+Trina somehow.

[umbral crown]

I just need that team does not face my scar trina

[swift mango]

Use Soda so she stun their Bay and you win.

[umbral crown]

Would need to OL her

[swift mango]

You have Rapu no? Put her in P1 unlinked so she stun whole team.

[umbral crown]

Rapu is used in another team

[swift mango]

@umbral crown

Against this team you stun their HelmT or Bay and you win.

Pure gacha experience

[umbral crown]

Waos

[swift mango]

I'm thinking of using Product 23 in Champ, wish me luck.

[umbral crown]

Skill and experience

[umbral crown]

Good luck

23 is attacker?

[swift mango]

Blue supporter Clip SG.

[hushed kelp]

Anyone know if tdrake burst hits one or two targets?

[swift mango]

Hit its prime target and the one on either of its sides

[hushed kelp]

Nice, ty!

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

Waos, besto sacc?

[swift mango]

It is. Gonna test it to get a 2rl wipe.

[umbral crown]

Enemy will have strong p1 preassure i guess

[swift mango]

Imagine bringing your SBS just to lose against a random max Sakura.

[umbral crown]

But do not think people have a max sakura

[swift mango]

Maybe they don't.

[umbral crown]

But do you?

[swift mango]

Me as well.

[umbral crown]

Sadly sakura does not work against me

imagime having sbs invested

[swift mango]

Arena main without SBS

[umbral crown]

Its a sigm

The teams i use does not really need her

[swift mango]

How are you gonna farm to stage 6 Kraken.

[coarse lake]

by building actually good wind units

I accidentally full cleared kraken today while doing dailies

[gaunt viper]

Sheesh, what'd you use?

[swift mango]

You don't accidentally do it unless you manual. With strong team just auto.

[coarse lake]

sbs wasuka

by accidentally I mean I just held left click on rapipi and otherwise played the game

[swift mango]

That's not accidentally.

[gaunt viper]

so Crown/Rapi/SBS/wasuka/Helm? i do that but Alice instead of Wasuka

[coarse lake]

jesus nearly forgot about coop

wasuka > alice for kraken

there is no room for ssakura in any pve content

[tardy anvil]

Hi, I'd like one team for rookie defense + attack each. Not sure where to start since all the guides said I need jackal which i don't. I have space in synchro slots for any other additions

[gaunt viper]

Problem is my Alice has really good OL lines compared to wasuka

[swift mango]

Kraken and SR aren't PvE content.

[coarse lake]

alice means I gotta actually try

[coarse lake]

?

[swift mango]

SSakura, sorry it's tiny.

[coarse lake]

you don't use ssakura for kraken unless you're missing the better units, ssakura is basically wind-ele filler for wind-weak, and even then it's just for her ele

[gaunt viper]

I never built her

[swift mango]

I mixed Asuka and Sakura.

[coarse lake]

just use wasuka and sbs

[gaunt viper]

whose 5th?

[coarse lake]

?

[coarse lake]

helmt for gen

[gaunt viper]

that's what I was wondering

I wanted to make sure

[coarse lake]

my helmt provides more dmg than naga in any kraken comp I do, even if I didn't need the gen, but others have mixed results

[gaunt viper]

I imagine your Wasuka is really well built? cause I tried to compare my Alice and Wasuka in dmg and somehow Alice faired better tho I was trying.

[coarse lake]

prob alice invest diff

she was doing better than alice well before invest got there

[gaunt viper]

do you do PC or mobile? cause I'm mobile

[coarse lake]

pc

mobile would be fps issue on mgs yeah

[gaunt viper]

my best is 3.3 billion with 423 sync lvl

[gaunt viper]

that's what I run into

[coarse lake]

I consistently reach 5.1mil+ every single day for daily

[swift mango]

Remember @final wedge ?

His CA run was very strong, until his 3 teams got hard countered by Sol. Then sol Bay didn't strong enough to catch Arland Cindy nuke and Arland won. Valco should be in that final match based on investment lol...

CA needs luck to win.

[gaunt viper]

Jeez, yeah I wish i was anywhere near that. this is my Wasuka and Alice

ik Wasuka needs more work just rolls aren't in my favor

[swift mango]

Just use Wasuka...

[coarse lake]

sbs

was using her at 70% ele for kraken for a very long time

[swift mango]

I'm not invest in my SBS anymore than 80%

[swift mango]

About right

[coarse lake]

my 70% is 3 lines

on almost all my main dps, they reach 70% ele with 3 lines, so the next jump is just always 90%+

[gaunt viper]

Yeah, it's rough to get more than 80% tbh and still have everything else good and not completely run out of resources

[final wedge]

[coarse lake]

the only meta meta dps I poorly built is my alice, too expensive with the lines she needs

so I'm just hoping mihara replaces alice in 1 team fire content

siren will let rapipi be used as b3, so that helps out too

[gaunt viper]

the only one I have been able to get to 90%+ is Xlud

[swift mango]

How are your Scarlet and Rossanna they are Arena META dps.

[coarse lake]

my scarlet got to 42% atk ol today

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

rosa I'm staying at 30%, a waste going further, no diff, will just rely on sac buff

[gaunt viper]

huh, that's good to know, I haven't had a chance to look into either of them 🤔

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

my threshold for well built dps is 70% ele and/or 30% atk

90%+ ele and 40%+ atk are reserved for special cases/simping

my alice is 20% ele 10% atk btw

[swift mango]

I think dude keep using me to test comp.

Beat me down already so I could use HIM to test comps.

[gaunt viper]

sounds like a good method

[swift mango]

This whale is being a smartass these days.

It's end of season so his p1 guaranteed anyway

[coarse lake]

I wish siren was water dps, but oh well, this way is less pressure on my rocks, siren prob minimal rocks, mihara I can prob wait a bit since my rapipi will carry fire anyway

mihara prob trash for campaign as well

so probably just raid unit

I'm just curious about siren kit

[pseudo arch]

I need help doing a def sp different team, haven't been able to do a 2 2rl and 2.5 emi

[swift mango]

She could be B2 with the Regen of xMica and revive skill of xAnne. One can pray.

[coarse lake]

she's b1

allegedly cdr, buffer

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

but her skill does have one that increases team burst gen apparently, like grave

question is, is it exactly like grave in that you gotta burst first

this is what someone translated from jp so far

[swift mango]

I know her expectations but if you don't have source don't ruin me prayer.

[coarse lake]

looks.... very worrysome for pve, due to a lot of the stuff probably going poof once target dies, but should be fine for raids and maybe pvp to replace liter, depends on buff value, since dmg taken on b1 is quite nice

[pseudo arch]

toughts?

[coarse lake]

if you cope hard enough this could be huge for pvp

[swift mango]

You use liter for Arena. Fake PvPer🧱

[coarse lake]

big dots once she starts bursting to do sustained dmg over time vs stall, dmg dealt debuff is huge, nuke after noah invuln goes down

[coarse lake]

I don't anymore

[swift mango]

Give you benefit of doubt.

[coarse lake]

liter is the second best b1 nuke buffer after rh

siren with team buffs + dmg taken debuff could very well replace liter, esp if her buffs are 10sec min

[swift mango]

Liter can't buff Emi. Miranda is better.

Liter even ruin ASS.

[hushed kelp]

Why pepper in scar team and position in front of rosanna?

[swift mango]

Unless your Emi is core 4+ with 45% ATK from OL and SR15, 101010, don't.

[coarse lake]

I know

[hushed kelp]

How much harder is it to go SR0 to SR5 instead of R0 to R15. I messed up and put SR dolls on a few of my units without upgrading from R15

[coarse lake]

siren shouldn't have those issues

if luck is bad, a lot harder

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

if luck is alright, maybe barely a tiny bit worse

if luck is good, it's actually cheaper

the blue route is just more consistent and on avg better

[hushed kelp]

Coping right now, doll mats are too scarce

[gaunt viper]

weren't they supposed to improve that?

[hushed kelp]

Probably pull on siren and mihara just for the doll mats

[hushed kelp]

Theyre supposedly improving all resource farming

[gaunt viper]

yeah, we will see how that goes

[hushed kelp]

Unpopular opinion prob but i dont mind them staying the way they are, everyone will just have the same builds if all their units are maxxed out

At least right now we actually have to think about where to invest

[coarse lake]

oh thank god

ok I just need to use purple doll selector for purple mg, then I'm ok

the smg purples being useful finally

[spiral onyx]

I missed responding to this but I feel like Scalter from what Ive seen. Normally Scalter would be benched cause wind but because of how CA reuses your defence teams for attack, practically no one will throw a Sakura in (would be a 1-in-5 gamble) so Scalter is a safe pick. And because of the lvl 400 synchro, you don't need that heavy buffing to win. 10s of Scalter burst is a guaranteed win, whereas Emilia still runs the risk of being blocked or maybe even damage reduction stopped

[coarse lake]

I haven't done much testing, but from my experience yeah I do feel like sbs is overall better, assuming you can threaten p2 biscuit enough with your other units

well I'll just test them out in the next few CAs, it's by far my worst team anyway

I should have recorded vids of those in my bracket when I had the chance

[timber barn]

anyone able to help me with arena and special arena teams? im super bad with team composition

i looked at the example teams on like pryden and nikke.gg but couldnt really get good results because im missing units or investment related stuff to make 3 teams

[swift mango]

I think I will have to throw the next CA. Not enough invested units to go around with.

[covert lintel]

so is it really an upgrade of xmica?

[spiral onyx]

I generally heavily favor continual damage over AoE nuke damage. The idea is that bruiser teams don't currently exist yet apart from Moran-Biscuit-SAnis and there's a LOT of anti-AoE-nuke options, so high continual damage should generally be harder to counter. Especially across 10s

[swift mango]

Need SG burst gen to be upgrade of xMica.

Unless you mean for PvE use.

[spiral onyx]

and when it comes to continual damage. Scalter rules supreme

[covert lintel]

but all allies right?
it should be fine

[swift mango]

Your account is very Arena brick I have nothing more to say.

For rookie use any team.

[swift mango]

If like Grave, it's after bursting once.

[swift mango]

Is ASS lower because you count her stat as supporter?

Won't she be better with more buffer, no?

@timber barn I already gave you 3 teams in case you didn't see it.

[timber barn]

since my biscuit isnt that great, team 2 is probably the best for me in regular arena right?

[covert lintel]

"when not in full burst" not after full burst end

[swift mango]

No team 2 is the worst

[swift mango]

But the article said "like Grave"

[coarse lake]

Don't overdose on copium and keep expectations low, it's either like grave, or boost is miniscule, otherwise game breaking for pvp

I'm betting on grave

Or it's just her own gen like mica

[timber barn]

thanks for helping; im going to try to get more jackal and biscuit copies 😹

[swift mango]

Could use team 3, replace Noir with LapT. Team 1, replace Drake with HelmT. For rookie

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

i'm betting on that translator

[spiral onyx]

These are raw unbuffed stats

[swift mango]

[spiral onyx]

The numbers are all in the spreadsheet. You can apply buffs yourself to see

[onyx crescent]

any way to improve these team comps got every unit?

[unique wagon]

Team 1 is generally flawed because SGs will stop it easily.

Team 3 is generally flawed because Noah Biscu/Moran Biscu or Sakura counters it.

Team 2 is fine.

[swift mango]

Team 2 is generally flawed because 2RL Noah murder it.

[covert lintel]

whoever build sakura is madlad

[swift mango]

I swear Kisenix has lightning typing and reading speed.

[unique wagon]

Reading yes typing no

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal - condition: noir must've less atk% (OL included) than scarlet, else use bsoda or maiden
naga centi cind helmt noise
noah biscuit sbs pepper laplace

cubes

quantum on jackal
vigor on blanc, noise, biscuit, pepper
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes: throw rumani and trina in synchro, invest to 4/4/4, 4OL, R15 or SR5
notes2: scarlet looks lower invest than other main B3s, try to raise her CP/atk%, especially try to aim for higher than your SGs

can get your teams reviewed once trina and rumani are CP ready

[tropic summit]

hence the "assuming all units are same synchro and invest"

[swift mango]

[dawn gorge]

What would be the best teams for PvP? For both the rookie and the special arena

[swift mango]

I already gave him teams. Without needing condition so to speak.

[tropic summit]

you on your period today?

[swift mango]

[timber barn]

thanks, ill work on those ones 😸

does trina and rumani need to have a certain limit break to be useful?

[swift mango]

You have Trina and Rumani?

[desert knoll]

kings i need help building a team for spec arena

[late tiger]

Does Scarlet only receive the buff of Trina if she is in slot 1, or as long as she is the only rifle on the left side?

[swift mango]

Later

[late tiger]

Ty

[timber barn]

ya single copy, it was in the last screenshot; theyre not in my synchro yet

[desert knoll]

my current team

what i got

[swift mango]

Okay, then build Trina + Rumani and comeback to ask Rail for help. My bad couldn't see it. Every Arena units used in SpA need OL to work.

Trina specifically need skill investment at least 474, 4104, ideally 41010

[timber barn]

but the limit break doesnt matter? if thats the case i can do it pretty easily i think

[swift mango]

OL, skill and doll matter more than limited break, for all units.

[timber barn]

ok, good to know

[swift mango]

Idk why I'm here answering. Pass it back to @tropic summit . Sorry I couldnt even see the Rumani and Trina.

[timber barn]

no worries 😸

ill work on what he said

[swift mango]

1- Take out 100 billion dollar and buy out Shift up so they rerun Emi by your wil.

2- Learn or hide hacker to reverse engineer the game for you to make an Privaty server.

3- Buy an account with Emi.

4- Play on CN server and wait for the Collab to run there.

From most expensive to cheapest options.

I don't remember your joke but I remember your account level range.

I'm the same.

[unique wagon]

4 won't happen.

[swift mango]

A whole day brainstorming the teams for CA but I don't have the units uprate and out of rookie hit...

[unique wagon]

Suggesting 3 will get you banned here.

[swift mango]

Time to stop.

[swift mango]

You only banned if sell or buying an account. No suggest the ideas.

It's not even suggestion, just mention.

[swift mango]

They will. Otherwise, CN player riot on Bilibili and the game out of business fast from reporting to CPP.

It's normal for later localization to run Collab again base on their own timeline.

Why do you think it won't happen?

It doesn't go against any contract.

Nor needing extra money to run the first Collab on a later localization that content didn't get there.

No, but it normal practice for years already. No reason the think twice.

A Collab run of CSM or Re;zero on CN server wouldn't require new contract to be made.

[rich quail]

[vapid lake]

cant wait for next season of cheer arena to print money again

[rich quail]

I’m all for free credits

(if I can choose correctly)

I just hope SU can show both teams lineups, cp total on the same screen like sp.arena

I don’t see the reason why it needs to be different in that aspect

[unique wagon]

?

[tropic summit]

cuz you're a good lad

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

for starters, is helm treasured and with s1 lvl 10? can't seem to see it

[desert knoll]

helm is 10 10 9

someone suggested this btw, lemme know what you think

[quick lake]

2 good teams + 1 cp pad should work better

[tropic summit]

scarlet and s.anis are fine, T3 needs to work on positioning

[swift mango]

You won't know what dissatisfied players could do to a game publisher in China.

Ask mihoyo and Azur Lane players about the history.

[desert knoll]

what do you recommend for change

[desert knoll]

i can attest to that in the case of snowbreak

[tropic summit]

you could run this alternative

naga grave cind helmt rh
scarlet blanc liter anis jackal
moran biscuit s.anis centi xmaiden

stable 3RL teams (scarlet will be kicked into 2RL with just a single enemy AR)

cubes

quantum on anis and jackal
vigor on blanc, biscuit
temperance on moran
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9, no ammo OL

notes: throw rumani in synchro and get her up to speed
wishlist/build noah, noise, trina, rapunzel

[desert knoll]

hmm I'll give this a shot as well

for 2nd lineup

[tropic summit]

try both i'd say, see how they fare within 24hrs and pick the one that lasts 👍

[desert knoll]

i will king

[swift mango]

I would say dissatisfied China players are on the same level of neglected Yandere girl friend finding you dating someone else.

[desert knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thank-you-gif-thank-you-funny-thank-you-squat-thanks-bro-gif-7589626120606791089

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

well they're the customer, in general if you do something that upsets your whole audience it should directly lead to income loss... if it doesn't your customers are idiots or sheeps

[swift mango]

In dangerous meter

[tropic summit]

and nikke has got a dangerously high amount of sheeps

🐑

[swift mango]

Income lost is the less they worry about.

The player could find tiny little bit of mistake you make to report to the government and make them banning your game.

Your very life could be threaten and you had to apologize for it.

---

It was all happened. In China, game makers are the sheep.

[tropic summit]

wow... kinda reflects how bad it is in china in general, you always want to stay off the radar there

insane how far those things can go in that country

[swift mango]

Except when someone death threat game dev and they had to stay at home 24/7 worrying about being killed. And then publicly apologize to not be killed.

[tropic summit]

lmao, funny world we live in

[swift mango]

Anyway, I said it as a joke.

No reason that China client don't get older Collab run in their version. Unless, there are some contract explicitly said so.

It's just reverse of what happened all the time when a game in CN, JPn, KR get global English version.

[tropic summit]

collab rerun doko

[swift mango]

Even if a game came to English 3 years late they will still get the content the original already got, including Collab.

It's treated as first run, not rerun.

Reverse that to Nikke China, it's the same

[tropic summit]

[halcyon zodiac]

just got some pvp units

could someone help me cook some teams

[sage burrow]

what have i done... i stirred up the pot that we let sit still for 1 year, and now we're shuffling ranks like crazy

[tropic summit]

T1: sbs blanc rrh anis jackal
T2: centi scarlet liter biscuit noir
T3: CP pad (mana in p4 if you want to)

[halcyon zodiac]

is there a team good with alice?

i have her high investment

[tropic summit]

hard to indom alice and since you don't have either bay or noah, you don't have anyone that gives her time to unleash her DPS safely

CP pad team probably ur best bet where to use her

you could run this CP pad team (5RL)

the idea here is to revive alice twice, assuming your team doesn't eat a nuke

once you finish helm treasure you can probably run a 3rd standard team tho

[halcyon zodiac]

it will take long

[crimson merlin]

hello i'm need a little help to TB in pvp ty

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
noise centi cind helmt pepper
noah biscuit rapu sbs laplaceT

cubes

quantum on centi and pepper to hit 2RL threshold
quantum on jackal
vigor on blanc, noise, biscuit, rapunzel
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

[crimson merlin]

in the same order?

[tropic summit]

yep position matters in pvp

you can give this a 5-10 min read if you wanna learn more about it

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[crimson merlin]

sure i'm in

ok i don't have some cubes so i need to farm LS -___-

[crimson merlin]

Thank you for your help

[tropic summit]

no problemo you welcome

[tropic summit]

yep, get to the grinding, I'd advise using a walkthrough video from youtube, some puzzles are just tedious

[gaunt viper]

is this good enough to beat this comp?

[stuck pike]

Team 1 should win, Team 2 not likely to win if Cindy survives. Team 3 I have doubts if Noise dies too fast.

[tropic summit]

T1 yes
T2 yes
T3 try getting emi indommed and it might win too

trina+liter are lethal against cindy, as long as your scarlet is invested, trina is 4/7/7, liter is invested

[covert lintel]

2buff scar can kill 2x hp cindy?

[tropic summit]

video above

[covert lintel]

that was p2
cindy decoy already chipped away by lap+

[tropic summit]

even oldschool RH + blanc was lethal

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

cindy decoy does not protect her from nuke or s2 damage btw

sample of her getting s2 damage with decoy intact

[umbral belfry]

[covert lintel]

yes, but from my case she didn't die from 2buffed screen wipe if she is placed in p3 or p4

[tropic summit]

that's pmaid not scarlet ya silly

you're expecting A LOT from pmaid there

[covert lintel]

isn't her wipe stronger?

[tropic summit]

use the nuke calculator and you can find out

[stuck pike]

mprivaty has a higher ratio but her lower ATK steroid doesn't affect her burst anyway and Trina massively skews scarlet slash.

[tropic summit]

to give you a spoiler, pmaid does not have the same passives scarlet gets

@swift mango just noticed her skill calls your name twice

[gaunt viper]

T1 and T2 won, T3 just barely lost, Noise died just before B1 got off. Ty for the help

[stuck pike]

Figured she'd die.

[gaunt viper]

yeah, it was real close tho

[covert lintel]

change it to p5 you win

[gaunt viper]

Oh you mean swap Noise to p5? ill have to try that next time then. I'll swap to p5 now so it's set

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[onyx crescent]

@tropic summit hey u seem giga active. Any changes would u make to these teams? ive got laplaceT dont know if she is better on cindy team replacing maiden. Would like to get my scalter team even faster but not compromise the other teams.

[tropic summit]

the only nitpicking here would be your reliance on rumani survivng 2RL... rest of the teams are fine

[covert lintel]

yes, make it something like this.
the keypoint is just to make blanc can burst and you should win that

[tropic summit]

further nitpicking

natural 2RL on scarlet isn't strictly necessary as you gain surplus burst gen from jackal + scarlet s2, running 3rd linked unit in p2 will also ensure you hit 2RL via feed

for T2, we solve your single B1 in p1 weakness by bursting with noise or adding rumani as backup B1

T3 remains essentially unchanged

perhaps a tad less stalling oriented because we use noise in T2 instead

[onyx crescent]

would it be worth it to use blanc in T3?

since my sbs has 50% atk and 16% cs investing in buffer for her would be huge

[tropic summit]

indom SBS can be run, just that on SP arena you'll get eaten by taunter defender + biscuit

in CA for example indom SBS won a lot of matchups on the other hand

[quick lake]

Some data on recent CA based on 4 brackets of top 8 (32 players, 160 teams)

[onyx crescent]

since i saw in my bracket

emilia wins against my sbs

[quick lake]

@swift mango @covert lintel @eager mountain @kind palm fyi

[onyx crescent]

okay but emilia one shots my comp. how would u setup indom sbs?

[tropic summit]

for defense, the opponent can just adjust their emi, so it's hopeless

for attack, you want to catch emi nuke to prevent it at all

[tropic summit]

e.g. run a 4RL team against 3RL emi (1RL slower to catch nuke with noah)

if indom emi on 3RL, you can 2RL scar-jack, if indom emi 2RL, you'll want ultra stall 3RL noah (noah helm biscuit flex flex)

[onyx crescent]

is 2RL cindy a must or 3RL should be suitable for most cases?

[stuck pike]

2RL

Cindy also just doesnt do any damage outside full burst.

[keen vapor]

Is suitable

[keen vapor]

Most cases or not, will depend on your bracket's average intelligence

[stuck pike]

The better counter to Emilia if she's not using Blanc is to use your own Blanc on an AOE DPS like SBS or your own Emilia. If she's using Blanc, you'll just want to blitz her with Scarlet wipe before Blanc throws on indom.

[onyx crescent]

The goal is not to counter. the goal is to make sbs immune to emilia

[stuck pike]

Noah can catch an Emilia burst, but it requires timing plus Emilia is still hitting your team after for 5-6 seconds

In a big enough CP gap, that just won't work out well for you.

[strong hull]

You should ping me also

I need my pvp knowledge up to date

[quick lake]

gotcha

[strong hull]

[gaunt viper]

Gotcha, tho I think my emi would get blown up relatively fast 😅

[gaunt viper]

@stuck pike at least i know how to beat it for next time aka reset but still it's like there was no point

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit i tried to for myself, but I'm at a loss of what to do here. Mostly for t5. (also i'm not going with this team order, so for you lurkers )

time to play the rng guessing game neko

guess i could go back to ol reliable blanc and

but unprotected blanc is

blanc + bisc + rapu seems overloading it imo, but maybe that's just me

better to put at least bisc/rapu on another team

if it was sp arena though, hmhm

she won't be stunning anyone without good RL speed

is rapu + mana even liable though also seems overloaded

but we are just noob cooks

the struggle of not having enough units

https://tenor.com/view/goku-goku-angry-xenoverse-2-gif-7335905850737743765

[swift mango]

What is natural scar Trina? When have RH+Scar+Trina that could punch through almost everything. We have Soda/Rapu+Scar+Trina with Stun. We have Pepper/Rossana scar Trina as well.

[umbral crown]

then scar trina mica? echo would add her there for sure to give her some use

if he had the chance

[quick lake]

2RL Scar Trina excluding jackal feed, so it alr reached 100% at 2RL
Scar Trina RH/Scar Soda lumped with Scar Trina
As long Scar and Trina are in the same team, i lumped them tgt

I split 2RL Scar Trina versus like
2.5-3RL Scar Trina (with jackal feed likely bumping to 2RL i.e. 85%-90% at 2RL)

[stuck pike]

You gotta time your attacks well. I sniped a Leviathan shortly after he was last active so I'm probably set to hold that spot into the reset. You may wanna improve your defense teams to avoid losing to anyone that isn't severely CP gapping you.

[gaunt viper]

nah there's not much to timing my attacks with them, they are on the English region also and of the time I've noticed they are constantly active, especially rn with 2 days left of SP arena. I just changed my defense yesterday actually but everyone rank 15 and up are all around the same CP amount

[umbral crown]

then invest in new units to make your defense stronger

[stuck pike]

That used to be like my old sp server before the shuffle, with only nouey as the exception in it. You only need decent teams then to stay competitive.

[gaunt viper]

I've invested in most viable pvp units save for Rosanna 🤔 . Haven't invested in Bay tho but idk

[gaunt viper]

Sheesh, quite the CPs

[umbral crown]

[stuck pike]

Rosanna isn't worth it in SP generally. There's only a handful of exceptions.

[gaunt viper]

[stuck pike]

Might work better for you since CP isn't an issue as you say.

[gaunt viper]

I asked for advice in here a little while ago for SP def and was told that as of rn it's mostly a rock-paper-scissors sort of thing and that rn only unit to really help change that is Rosanna

[stuck pike]

Either you kill what you need to kill with Rosanna or you don't. There's no inbetween really. Her delink is okay, but it rarely matters at faster burst gens.

From a pragmatic standpoint, it isn't worth dumping a ton of resources just for Rosanna to have a shot at killing similar CP teams.

Might be worth it for a leviathan. I'm f2p, so I still gotta balance out my PvE.

Mine is overloaded, but nothing super crazy and useless for the things I'm CP gapped against.

[gaunt viper]

That's kinda how I felt, I haven't bit the bullet to invest in her since I've been focusing on meta DPS like Cindy

[stuck pike]

If you have Xmaiden, treasure laplace, treasure helm, and all clip RL, you can build some nasty teams.

[gaunt viper]

I'm also f2p

[gaunt viper]

Xmaid and HelmT i got but I've got nothing invested in Laplace

[stuck pike]

Laplace with just basic overloads is fine. You're only using her for burst gen. It's about whether you got her treasured or not.

[gaunt viper]

yeah I was referring to treasured as well 😅

[stuck pike]

That'd be a good choice then for ur next treasure. Drake is only for shotgun teams and Exia is for electric pve teams. Laplace is relevant in Missilis tower anyways.

Other treasures are skippable. Diesel, Viper, and Miranda are very niche.

[gaunt viper]

I was hoping to save for a next upcoming favorite tbh just because i feel like i missed the bus on the Laplace train to take full advantage of her and just wait for the next big missilis unit

unless they make the doll mats exponentially easier to obtain

[stuck pike]

She was my first treasure then helm, but it is a massive buff to her useability in missilis tower and if you need an iron DPS really badly besides Red Hood.

[gaunt viper]

cause making Helm treasured was definitely costly

[stuck pike]

Thinking outside the box here for where your units can go

pve, raids, arena, manu towers

helm checks all boxes, laplace checks the later 3.

[gaunt viper]

I've been using Ein in missilis tower as of rn but idk if she's better than Laplace 🤔.

[stuck pike]

You can use both.

It's not laplace vs ein, it's laplace vs maxwell if were being honest.

[gaunt viper]

Yeah I've got my Maxwell pretty well invested too

more than ein for sure

[stuck pike]

Depends on whether you want DPS or instagib. Ein is just better than both overall scaling wise.

[gaunt viper]

tho Laplace i feel is better on bosses than Maxwell

just since Maxwell S1 relies on enemys on the field and all

but you can't really use Laplace and Maxwell then?

[stuck pike]

Maxwell's enemy related buff is mostly ignored for bosses. Her ATK and CS buff are what makes her relevant besides the burst shot. As to which is better depends on the boss's mechanics frankly.

Laplace is better at killing mobs than Maxwell by far which is what you'll be doing most of the time.

[gaunt viper]

Hmmm now what about Mother Whale for example?

[tropic summit]

T1: i'd remove anis and RH to use them elsewhere, scarlet + trina is already lethal on their own, speedwise trina + jackal + scar s2 are enough to hit 2RL
T2: SG weak, if you're attacking noise may die from SG pressure, you cannot burst anymore, if you're defending, noah may die pre burst, while not as bad, you still lose out on noah
T3: fine, although SG risky for reasons above
T4: looks good, scarlet and 2RL weak but that's inevitable
T5: aim for at least 4RL spare team

[stuck pike]

If Maxwell can't one tap the core, there's no way she's better than Laplace against MW.

[swift mango]

Scar Trina alone won't be able to beat Noise+Cindy without Criting.

It's hard plumbing them together.

[umbral belfry]

i'm drawing a blank on what to fill them with

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry to give you a few ideas, the following are SG resistant:

-2 defenders + biscuit (p1 and p5)
-scarlet + jackal teams (p1 and p5)
-cindy p5, tanky p1 (moran or revive)

[umbral belfry]

also that sentence out of context

[tropic summit]

i'd say aim for 2 SG resistant teams, that gives you the odds of making them run into counters

3 SG resistant teams increase the odds furthermore

[umbral belfry]

Couldn't indom sbs be a 2 sg res team with blanc + bis instead of blanc + rapu?

[tropic summit]

yep it would

you'd be locked in from blanc in p1 and rumani in p5, both safe via biscuit

[umbral belfry]

time to yoink rapu off my team again

[tropic summit]

SGs teams realistically will be between 2.5RL and 3RL

tbh i don't expect many SG teams at your synch tho

ppl would need to have well invested ones

[umbral crown]

go with ele on her

[gaunt viper]

Huh okay, I'll keep that in mind then. I still don't have either Ein or Laplace OL yet 😅, I hoard my resources unless I'm absolutely certain it's the best judgement

[umbral crown]

in our league i just saw ph boi with one

[tropic summit]

yeah i'm thinking about running at least 2 SG resistant teams

probably on T4 or T5 since ppl seem to prefer those 2 from last league

[umbral crown]

the one i have rosanna in, might be resistant since 1 death is burst gen

[umbral crown]

yeah, t4 and t5 were yolo teams

t4 could be a good place

[tropic summit]

as long as i don't get a noah team again on T4

@umbral belfry since you're cooking, aim for 2 anti nuke teams aswell, bay for example proved quite useful to urawhat teams

may save you against a glass cannon scarlet or half baked but fast 2RL nuke

[umbral belfry]

yeah bay was already on my team first CA and helped a lot on my last 3.5 RL team

[tropic summit]

thing is, bay gonna need to be 2RL

or scarlet will eat her

[umbral belfry]

only problem i have is fitting her on this new team/getting it 3.5 RL - 4 RL w/o saccing another good team

and yeah that makes sense

[tropic summit]

ye it's gonna be tricky fitting her in

she also needs to be p4 or p3

[umbral belfry]

but also 3 RL cindy seems problem is i don't have much burst gen units

bay p4 worked great for me

[tropic summit]

3RL cindy win ratio is below 44%

[umbral belfry]

hence why i'm not doing 3 rl cindy

[tropic summit]

if you running her 3RL, use her as p5 shield against SGs

[umbral belfry]

might have to take off mana for t5 bs burst gen ain't cutting it

[tropic summit]

aye, a team not on 3RL will have bad odds of winning

[umbral crown]

Yes

[umbral crown]

But depends which team it faces

Last time it faced my Ein team and i was ded

[quick pivot]

They hit the 361 power spike before me and now I need help recooking if possible :< Scarlet and Trina are not invested yet as I am saving gear fodder for 2.5 units

[umbral crown]

I do not wanna get noah in t3 where my ein team is

[tropic summit]

surely the odds will be different this time

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[umbral crown]

Lets hope i also do not face bay with my scar again

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

It was the odds vs me last time

[tropic summit]

bay and noah on 2 different teams both 2RL, that's 40% chance of RIP scarlet

[umbral crown]

Sure its riperino

[tropic summit]

RNG arena here we come

[umbral crown]

Yeah hahaha

Peak content

[tropic summit]

s.anis laplace blanc xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit sbs rh bsoda
moran anchor:IM helmT centi drake

quantum on laplace, xmaiden, jackal
vigor on blanc, biscuit, anchor:IM
temperance on moran and noah
resil. on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9 and no ammo OL
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

-finish building up trina and scarlet, can review T1 then
-can update other teams once scar is ready

[quick pivot]

Team 3 suffers major deficit due to moran lacking OL, likely will not win with that one, but will report back hoping other 2 can pull through

[tropic summit]

ye keep T3 CP padded then

use helm instead of laplace in T1 to get it to natural 2RL or instead of bsoda in T2

s.anis should be linked with jackal and lowest HP of the linked nikke to work as inteded

[quick pivot]

WAIT IT WON LMFAO

[tropic summit]

🤔

not as CP gapped as you thought

[quick pivot]

13% ish power gap from the looks of it

[tropic summit]

13% is good enough, your stats get nuked after 15.4%

you can multiply enemy team CP score for 0.846 to see the minimun requirement

[quick pivot]

Thanks as always :3

[tropic summit]

no problemo

[stable shale]

can someone help with a pvp team pls

[stuck pike]

Swap DKW for Pepper. Anis for Ein if the CP deficit isn't huge. Unless I see more, that's the best I can do.

[midnight marsh]

What’s a good 2RL Bay team?

Whenever I try to cook with Bay, it always come out too slow 😭 (3RL)

[tropic summit]

you'll want clip RLs or helmT in those teams to help her get to 2RL

it's situational anyway

as it depends on whether you expecting a scarlet or a cindy

a very general purpose with open flex spot:

an anti scarlet glass cannon on 2RL

[frail hamlet]

Man, I truly am having an epic back and forth with a rival

We've been beating our faces in for a little over a year now and it has not let up at all

[tropic summit]

need to see ur box to make a proper team

[frail hamlet]

I have to give it to him, he hasn't given up at all, nor remotely slowed down

[midnight marsh]

! I see

[stable shale]

thats rlly all the ssrs i have the rest is the srs, but i made blanc sbs noir pepper and anis into a team

[tulip willow]

is this a solid comp? I'm fairly confident about it, but I'm not hardcore into PvP so idk if it could be improved. My first thought would be to replace biscuit, but I don't know if I need to nor do I know who would be a better fit here

[tropic summit]

this is meant to be a rookie team right?

e.g. not for an SP arena 3 teams

[tulip willow]

yep

[tropic summit]

then it needs fixing on positioning mostly and yes you can remove biscuit

scarlet helm trina flex jackal (in this order), flex can be anything that doesn't steal scarlet 1st or 2nd spot in the team as highest atk%(OL included), avoid using anything that is not a RL or SR though

[tulip willow]

so would someone like Laplace be good? She's the highest CP unit I have and she's a RL unit so she would be my first pick

[tropic summit]

yes, as long as she doesn't steal scarlet link with jackal as above that'd be a good choice

in fact, if she's the 2nd highest atk and helm gets demoted to 3rd highest atk, you can run:

scarlet laplace helm trina jackal

you want p1 p2 and p5 to be the linked nikke

[tulip willow]

gotcha, thanks for the advice

[oak gale]

best way to garantee top 3 is to let the trouble maker annoying kid be 1st , then everyone gets their points as they please 💀 @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

if the lad isn't a whale or a gemmer, but regularly just tries his best, let em

if he's that special snowflake, keep dropping him

[oak gale]

not worth the trouble , either way top 3 get the same reward

but last season , my man it was ww3

[tropic summit]

ye true, he also makes use of you as bodyshield to not drop further

[tropic summit]

all thanks to CA surely, top4 getting in is what makes ppl try harder

[oak gale]

there is around 5 ppl who actively play in my server i believe , the rest arent as high

[oak gale]

here is the thing , top 1 is that kid who keeps fighting top 3 every season , but he started comeback last season since back then he didnt have enough teams to stay on top
top 2 is me
top 3 is someone who has a team that relies souly on deflict
and top 4 is either a grinder or a whale

[tropic summit]

but does he gem or whale?

[oak gale]

tho despite all of that idk , bc i didnt miss a single day since istarted playing nikke but somehow top 1 and 4 are like what , 20+ levels above me 💀 which is sus

[tropic summit]

oh oke then whel at play

[oak gale]

well im not sure , but i do think he used tokens from last season , we got 4 free remember?

[tropic summit]

even less reason to bother with them, endless resources anyway

[oak gale]

i mean hey , im still in the range of beating em , but as u see i only have 2 functioning team 💀 , meanwhile rn im oling ruamani, bc i need to ol biscut and rapunzel after and by then i think im done focusing on pvp and can start focusing on solo raid , aka building sbs and asuka etc

[tropic summit]

sbs should take precedence over pvp though, rocks income

[oak gale]

tho idk if u want me to build another pvp team utilizing other nikkes like moran and rosarea or idk her name is , bc i closed the game 💀

[tropic summit]

close, it's rosanna

[oak gale]

well i already have quency and cinderella and helm maxed so idk much tbh , sbs isnt use for me in campaign , only use will be in solo and pvp

i have her ol but she needs to max her skills from 4 4 4

[oak gale]

yep

[tropic summit]

ye but do you stage 7 kraken?

if not, SBS is your rescuer

[oak gale]

stage 4

[tropic summit]

ye there you go, go get SBS some love