pvp-arena

[eager mountain]

i dont invest that much on pvp but my pvp teams were 1000k ish at 490
that mf is indeed invested

[sleek ginkgo]

Read it right, 980 k was with sannis, not anis

I hit 940 k with dolls tho

[eager mountain]

cubes should get u to 946k, u still want lv7 quantum on noah anis helm tho

[sleek ginkgo]

I should just leave him, he is gonna hit 501

[eager mountain]

yes he will

[sleek ginkgo]

But new chapter coming next patch ?

I got like 50 lvl of core dust

[tropic summit]

should be around 20-26 feb

[eager mountain]

50

[sleek ginkgo]

Yeah, saved since last chapter

[eager mountain]

50 is more then that but yeah u should have a lot

[swift mango]

"Slower Indom" is very hard to archive without losing once to record the video.

Unless it's against Emi or other slow dealer.

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

Team 2:

Scarlet+Centi+RH+Emi+Jackal.

Team 3:

Just add Cindy to Emi position.

Emi need to have lower ATK than Scarlet ofc... Otherwise look if HelmT or LapT has lower ATK than Scarlet... Otherwise, just roll for scarlet atK lines...

If scarlet ATK already higher than RH u shud be fine

[sleek ginkgo]

My scarlet 180 k atk, red hood 190 k atk, but scarlet should still have higher atk with her skill right ?

[umbral crown]

hmmm

[brazen ledge]

here no way to replace rapu and xmaiden for more cp ? (def team)

[umbral crown]

They would never rerun past collabs units, these are different units like SBS

[vapid lake]

Maybe it just not announced yet, i wouldnt underestimate gacha greeed

[eager mountain]

well the scar rng makes it harder, else their rl couldve been feed based instead of cs based

if he didnt toss resil on that liter team already, he can win with resil, but he didnt bother cuz they gonna hit 501 anyway

[sleek ginkgo]

I will try
team 2, 2 RL scarlet
and
team 3, 3 RL Cindy

[quick lake]

Not yet

[strange rain]

Is there a strat when to attack and climb the ranking ?

[vapid lake]

not really, besides figuring out what time ur main rivals wake up/sleep/log off then attack them when they sleeping

Or wake up 3 minutes before reset to beat them down

[brazen ledge]

please

[strange rain]

i will track them down then

[brazen ledge]

imo try to see when ppl are sleeping, hit at this moment so you stay at your position the longest

usually 1/2hrs before reset you can attack and have a few hours safe

[raven plover]

hit 5 mins before daily reset, hope no one hit you, so you start new day at top

[swift mango]

It count ATK line, which isn't visible in the window. You either need to math yourself, we aren't in nursing school, or just bring the team to a PvE fight and pause to check who are with Jackal link skill.

Just make sure scarlet is linked.

[raven plover]

unless the people in your bracket use gems

[brazen ledge]

Blood could you help with that pls ?

[brazen ledge]

: whales

[swift mango]

You should be able to replace XMaiden. Rapu you need for the team to even function properly.

[raven plover]

I had 1 guy who did 1 min snipe for 2 seasons before

[brazen ledge]

and so what do i put ?

[raven plover]

put treasure helm, more cp

[brazen ledge]

xanne ?

[brazen ledge]

thats the neat part

[swift mango]

What do you have? It could be SBS, ASS to p2. LapT or Rapu to p5 with Vigor equiped.

[brazen ledge]

i have the right teams, had the left but trying to improve

[covert lintel]

rip
i had hoped that they would put old char in the pool at least

[brazen ledge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1337159802727436368/1338642350972473446/200_tommy_with_rosanna.jpg?ex=67af1f17&is=67adcd97&hm=e59948842cffe371274e906c9ff16408d8bd88e03f8c48fdd6dcacdc3975c208&

Could I just take this ?

[swift mango]

If it works, it works

[brazen ledge]

ppl showed me this

im good for atk now, i still don't understand how to make 3 def teams

as for me they'll mostly just be countered in 10mins

[umbral crown]

Neva

[swift mango]

No way they would be selling a skin for a character that people can't get. That would be wild...

[brazen ledge]

I don’t think they will

Just for their own benefits

[tropic summit]

you need a revive unit (for either blanc or emi when sniped on 3RL) and you need a flex on p5 that allows you to still reach 3RL

either that, or turn the team 2RL, that way you may not need revive as blanc should survive that time frame

[tropic summit]

T1 too much feed, will be scar-jacked (rosanna breaks jackal link on circa 2RL, but with that feed they won't have an issue)
T2 weak to noah on same speed
T3 can be either skipped or indom scarlet

in your case, if they're beating your def, you might want to consider 1 CP padded team and 2 very strong defensive team, possibly being antinuke

(indom and 2RL)

[brazen ledge]

hes whaling, im f2p

[tropic summit]

then give up, you won't def

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-ok-great-good-thumbs-up-gif-16351183

[chilly urchin]

i'm still decently new so i'm not vsing crazy people in arena yet, what would be my best teams for both arena + sp arena?

[tropic summit]

SP arena

naga centi cind noir noise
sbs blanc rh rumani jackal
crown alice rrh mana tia (temp CP padded team)

Rookie
jackal centi cind drake rumani

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, noise
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

wishlist/build asap: noah, biscuit (syncro), scarlet, get helm treasured

get your teams reviewed once either noah or biscuit are found

[chilly urchin]

omg amazing thank you!! yeah i'm gonna be rolling a decent amount after this update on the standard from my tickets. working on favourite for helm but ages away i think since bond level low haha

[keen vapor]

151

[shell hazel]

you need MA for pvp if such a thing exists 😄

[unkempt kestrel]

First time I got gem attacked 😂

[sleek ginkgo]

Lost cause of cp diff ?

[glad meteor]

Need 970,700+ power

[umbral crown]

Give me 341 boost and i could be 153 or close

[keen vapor]

You better tell me how to increase Noah firepower

[umbral crown]

Max doll, blue lines, max skill

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Ez

Tell me at least your noah is over 100k cp

[swift mango]

Deficit a bit there. Maybe could have won if your Scarlet and Jackal equipped with Tempering? Idk, doubt.

Maybe could try LapT to add the CP instead.

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Moran is

[umbral crown]

The only one?

[keen vapor]

Noah is the one that's the most lacking in power

But I don't really want to roll her

Not before Scarlet

[umbral crown]

You really want

My scar is kinda falling behind

Has not seen some investment in months

[keen vapor]

777

[unique mountain]

Señor blood
#1314995356068483152 message

[umbral crown]

10-10-10 since forever

7/7/7 is for slackers

[umbral crown]

Señorito

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

I bet rail is 1.7m

[tropic summit]

4 atk% black lines, 4 crit dmg black lines, 4 crit rate black lines

the dream

but ye mine is also on 10/10/10

[umbral crown]

See echo? You slacking

Then wonder .... why im losing

[unique mountain]

They removed exia dozing sticker

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

what is skill issue in spanish 🤔

[umbral crown]

Depends the context but in the normal translation is problemas de habilidad

[tropic summit]

it sounds beautiful, i'll use that instead

[umbral crown]

[unique mountain]

Problems have a dad

[umbral crown]

Ño

[unique mountain]

Ñyo

[umbral crown]

[thorny sequoia]

Is Quiry stall team still viable in rookie arena?

[tropic summit]

rookie is heavily counterable, you're best rotating teams day by day

plus with the addition of helm if your quiry stall team is not 2RL you might get screwed regardless

[swift mango]

Maybe Quiry to buff Cindy.

[solar nacelle]

Ban me
Ban me

[tropic summit]

nah, casual is best, doing it just for fun

my job is already enough, i don't need 2

[shell hazel]

are you sure? 😄

[tropic summit]

SP arena

naga centi cind xmaiden noise
scarlet blanc liter emilia jackal
alice ein grave rrh modernia (cp temp padded team)

Rookie

jackal centi cind emilia xmaiden

wishlist: noah, biscuit, rapunzel, get helmT asap

notes: you took a break right? sync lvl 221 and emilia

[tropic summit]

unless they started paying, then it would be worth it

[shell hazel]

the guy we beat the other day has changed their team to a cp pad team, I want to cook an attack to beat it

[tropic summit]

post their team and your box, maybe it can be arranged 🤔

[shell hazel]

a just for fun rookie arena team attack thing

I was going to see if I had the right idea and you can correct me!

[tropic summit]

it's a good thing to learn, go for it

[shell hazel]

yeah I think so 🙂

just booting in

so first of all this is their squad, it's funny as my best cp is like 290K and that is stacked

in the calc they basically don't burst

even if all have level 3 quantum cubes on

[tropic summit]

yeah correct, that's probably 6 or 7RL

[shell hazel]

was thinking maybe something like this?

I need to cp pad a bit - 0.85 * their cp = 263K

[tropic summit]

considering the feed you'd get from crown, that's also not a bad idea

yeah that team would win

[tropic summit]

the other issue with their team is that their only B2 just happens to be in p1

and she's gonna be the first to die

[shell hazel]

very true and no RH on their side to grab it

[tropic summit]

mhm

i think it's safe to say they choose the "random bs go" method

[shell hazel]

so comfortably above the 85% deficit

[tropic summit]

yeah around 14% deficit

[shell hazel]

jackal will link with RH and Helm here

[tropic summit]

also correct, highest 2 top atk%

[shell hazel]

even if jackal/crown/helm dies then RH can still complete burst

[tropic summit]

they're unlikely to die before you burst if anything

[shell hazel]

i'll see if they change up teams before reset and him em then, out of tries for now 🙂

[tropic summit]

but ye, correct reasoning on all fronts, good job hippo

[shell hazel]

thanks man appreciated! I want to learn at least a bit myself 🙂

was also considering scarlet/jackal should work but I think I'd hit CP issues

my scarlet is lower than my other b3's

[tropic summit]

yeah you're already kinda stretched, any lower and you might go past 15% deficit

[shell hazel]

3.5RL is with helm at the lower tier as well, at the higher one it's 3RL but I'm somewhere in the middle

[tropic summit]

you'll be kicked into roughtly 2.5RL-2.8RL due to crown feed on jackal anyhow

[shell hazel]

skill 1 is 8

is it jackal being hit by MG = feed and burst gain on my side?

[tropic summit]

yep correct

[shell hazel]

awesome, only thing I'm less certain on is positioning here, although I understand that being in the middle is technically safer

with jackal at p1 that is 1st target hit right?

by most opponents anyway

[tropic summit]

since you can't place helm or RH into p1 because you need to burst with cindy, the choice here was likeky the best

but enemy is also not running SGs so you not wasting feed on p5

all of their attacks will be on p1

[shell hazel]

I see, if they had SG's I'd want jackal fed units on p1 and p5?

[tropic summit]

yep, either jackal herself or a linked nikke

[shell hazel]

I'll record it and see if our theory works! 🙂
they have built those units pretty strong but feed + link + burst should win the day

[tropic summit]

as an added rule, whenever possible, try to get the main target to be the linked nikke with also the highest lvl doll (dmg reduction), it spreads to all other nikke as lower damage compared to a linked nikke but with lower doll

[shell hazel]

I see, it's Helm at fav item level or RH at SR-15 for now I guess

but seems dangerous chucking RH at p1

[tropic summit]

that'd be interesting in a sense, but she'd need to live

[shell hazel]

yeah 😄

[tropic summit]

if she were to hit B2 with lifesteal she might actually outheal

another option here would be for you to run biscuit and jackal or crown in p1

[shell hazel]

oh yeah ofc burst order counts as well

[tropic summit]

but you'd be on deficit on the other hand

[shell hazel]

yeah def would be though I did boost Biscuit a bit

biscuit is about 10K CP less than Crown atm

[tropic summit]

uh could run biscuit instead of crown for added safety perhaps, can keep that as backup plan

[shell hazel]

I OL'd her gear but her doll is basic R-0 one eventually I'll get it to like SR-5 if I can

[shell hazel]

puts me into cp deficit though as 3k above it with crown and crown +10K cp on biscuit

so I'd be 7k under

biscuit is great though, but here I think I needed crown or maybe naga for a stronger b2

naga is my strongest one

sp-arena in my bracket is definitely going through some turmoil, everyone in positions 3 - 10 have been jumbled around due to attacks

[tropic summit]

yeah lower ch ranks are generally more mobile

[unique mountain]

Does
Noah centi cindy liter lapT
Beat
Cindy centi rh harran biscuit

[shell hazel]

harran

!

[tropic summit]

cindy in p1

[unique mountain]

Im just looking for a yay or nay

[shell hazel]

assuming you are top team here?

[unique mountain]

Ye

[tropic summit]

yeah you burst first, enemy cindy in p1 gives you also 1.75x better burst

[shell hazel]

got a better b1 than liter for pvp? if she's high CP then maybe

but there are superior b1's for pvp teams

[tropic summit]

think he's using noise/RH on another team anyhow

[shell hazel]

why does cindy in p1 give better burst? is it due to where she aims?

[tropic summit]

decoy

[shell hazel]

I know it's bad I just don't know why

[tropic summit]

counts as 3 bodies instead of 2 for splash

[shell hazel]

oh, I see counts as hitting twice?

[muted stag]

Winnable? I have helm

Welp won

[quick lake]

P1,2,3 nikke + decoy. So there’s 6 targets worth of burst gen

[unique mountain]

Pog

[mint fog]

What's the evaluation of RRH in spa?

rebuilding my spa teams, want to better understand the new meta.

[brazen ledge]

Trash, she doesn’t wipe, she doesn’t generate burst

Or pretty much like it

[swift mango]

.

For attack, she is like walmart Emi

Could also one shot 3rl Jackal link if you ever need an unit for that...

For Defense... Good luck.

[mint fog]

hmmm, so possible replacement for the dalmatian nikke?

[unique mountain]

[ashen ocean]

well shit, new PB again the teams Railtracer gave me really work well so far

[tropic summit]

good job, aim for challanger ranks if you're within CP range

[shell hazel]

reset so might be time to put plan into action 😄

[cedar orbit]

[shell hazel]

gems!

I don't mind gems 😛

[swift mango]

Nice flex

[cedar orbit]

thanks

[swift mango]

When new campaign come again guys?

[tropic summit]

more gems donations for the arena gods

[tropic summit]

yep go get em

[keen vapor]

Only skip 15 gems if anything

[gaunt cypress]

February: Chapters 35 and 36

[shell hazel]

not even close sir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTuE9HDn_3E

[swift mango]

15gems > 2 gold boxes.

I mean LMD

[swift mango]

Thanks pad

[keen vapor]

Lmd?

[keen vapor]

Soon ™

[tropic summit]

wow the feed was even better than expected

[swift mango]

Oops brainfag, I mean Credit

[cedar orbit]

show me your core collections

[keen vapor]

I like my credits

[swift mango]

LMD is Arknight's credit.

[shell hazel]

yep! ez win 🙂

[tropic summit]

wow there's a doktah among us

damn it's been so many years since i touched arknights, wonder how that game is doing

[cedar orbit]

we are powercreeping

[shell hazel]

it seems OK I just didn't love the tower defence stuff tbh

it's still trucking along last I heard

[swift mango]

There is gonna be Dungeon Meshi Collab in a week.

I'm waiting for that 10x more than Eva2 in this game.

Unless, the give us CSM 2, nothing will top that for me.

[shell hazel]

eva collab pt 2 must suck if you a) don't care for it and b) you were already here for pt 1

I'm cool with it as I wasn't, so at least everything will be new

[tropic summit]

nikke needs elves perhaps 🤔

[tropic summit]

makima fanboi

[shell hazel]

tbh dungeon meshi x nikke could work

but we'd need a proper fantasy thing like we have with xmaiden event

and I was thinking some fantasy outfit nikkes could be fun

[tropic summit]

i'll be honest with you, the last thing ppl care about collabs is the plot, because it's inevitably gonna be a filler thing

give me any reason to have marcille in there, i'll just skip the story anyway most likely, unless it's voiced

[shell hazel]

voiced ones are definitely better

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/i0Yh9Q5wtQQ.gif

[shell hazel]

I like it when we get voiced story + map to explore + mini game etc

[tropic summit]

voiced story and possibly cutscenes

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/vYOKP5KKssS.gif

[tropic summit]

wife material right there

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-unclephuc-frieren-fern-mimic-gif-3954792569250587154

or frieren collab

[swift mango]

Well, she is certainly more famous right now but not even half as appealing as Marcille.

[shell hazel]

dungeon meshi was good as well, I liked them both

it's confirmed another season right?

[swift mango]

Dungeon Meshi was a masterpiece all in all.

The other one was good at the start but then just milking money now.

[tropic summit]

do hope so, comedy with actual plot and even decent action is very welcome in my book

[shell hazel]

studio trigger were the best choice for that one

if they used generic/bland animation I think it would have suffered for it

[tropic summit]

yeah that's one of the best studios, together with ufotable

[shell hazel]

yep and kyoani (imo anyway)

[swift mango]

Frieren, and "To your eternity" are just very similar. In that they started strong with good premise but refuse to end and trying to milk as much money as they could with much less interesting plots moving forward..

And immortal character as well.

And deadfish art style.

Well, artwise... Frieren is the worst, no business be as famous as it is with everyone having the same deadfish face....

I was one of the first peoples who read both series when they are just 1-2 chapters and immediately rate them 10/10 but not even reading both now. Just waiting for them to end before checking on them again. Frieren after the first demon general battle and "To your Eternity" after the start of modern arc.

[tropic summit]

Frieren produced these ladies tho

while 2nd arc was indeed lackluster, potential was and is still there

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

eventually, you'll get there

[shell hazel]

eva shop should help in a week if not there by then

though I still have s2/burst at 4 😄

gonna get Cindy to 10 burst then come back for helm I guess

[swift mango]

I think the Anime has more appealing but then again, I doubt it caught up to the lastest chapter. And still only on the first better half of the series.

[tropic summit]

within all the trash isekai we getting, a frieren was more than enough needed

even if it was just a part of it

[swift mango]

I would vote for "trash Isekai" Konosuba Collab over Frieren easily. Sorry but I'm not sorry.

[tropic summit]

oh konosuba is one of the few exceptions

while it's isekai, it is doing it's job at comedy

although last season was a bit dissapointing

[swift mango]

I want some Isekai Tanya's Ass in Nikke more as well.

[tropic summit]

wonder if Tanya could stick within PG13 boundaries tho

[swift mango]

No judging

[eager mountain]

tbh its the least isekai "isekai" ull ever see

but since isekai is supposed to be "i" so its also more isekai then random isekai by literal

[swift mango]

There are many Isekai where MC just said there were Isekai at the beginning and never even use any Isekai ability of knowledge.

Typical of the Isekai Otome era

Just add Isekai for the sake of it

[eager mountain]

ye

[dim sapphire]

frieren collab will be legendary, want to see frieren,fern and ubel sr

[eager mountain]

alongside unnecessarily long title name

[swift mango]

To be frank, while Freren is more famous in the west now. Their character even showing less skin than Re:Zero girls.

Good luck getting permission to lewd them...

[vapid lake]

forbidden 4 letter word

naughty naughty

[swift mango]

Obviously "name"

[eager mountain]

the forbidden 4 letter word/name? obviously YHWH

[swift mango]

Lol-i

[tropic summit]

call em petite

or smol waifu

[eager mountain]

gonna stream mc s9 in a bit, lets see how long it takes to get the real run

In general 2 now

[keen vapor]

Frieren

[tropic summit]

elaborate

[keen vapor]

I could enjoy my filler.... IF IT WAS VOICED!

[keen vapor]

Don't talk about Frieren without me ..... Well, I haven't read the manga yet, maybe you can

[tropic summit]

nah me and @swift mango are cultured, we wouldn't spoil

but did you watch the animu? 🤔

[keen vapor]

That never stopped Araki

[keen vapor]

Yeh

The animation is so good I could cry

[keen vapor]

😭

Frieren-sama

[dim sapphire]

Think harder

[dim sapphire]

.

[keen vapor]

True

So, people

Please vote for Sora No Otoshimono collab

You missed an S at the beginning Penguin

SNO

[vapid lake]

I didnt

[keen vapor]

Snow White

[vapid lake]

Nobody remembers that anime lets be real

[keen vapor]

That's why I remind you

[shell hazel]

Overlord collab when

[keen vapor]

Only Sebas arc was good

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/albedo-overlord-albedosam-gif-26175798

I just want Albedo ngl

[keen vapor]

I just want Shino Asada

[tropic summit]

but you know about it...

[keen vapor]

Where's my S||_||O collabs

[vapid lake]

Now sinon in nikke thats a collab i can get behind

[tropic summit]

behind sinon ||collab||? 🤔

[tropic summit]

ok that spoiler was bait

[shell hazel]

Black Lagoon is probably a fairly obvious option as well

[tropic summit]

Hard to forget characters like Revy

lemme go listen to the opening actually, been a while

[vapid lake]

too bad the author forgot about the series

[shell hazel]

I need more blue/purple materials so I can spark 11 to use the oranges :S

so slow, wen next solo raid? 😮

[keen vapor]

It can be filled with either N or A

[shell hazel]

I liked the similar but different arms dealer one as well

Jormungand

[tropic summit]

oh actually haven't watched that one 🤔

[swift mango]

So can I just wishing for any random anime Collab now?

[tropic summit]

damn i almost forgot i had watched it 🤔

[shell hazel]

indeed you can wish for it

maybe we're restricting ourselves too much with anime

we could do with a persona collab

[tropic summit]

i'm on my way to having wasted nearly a year watching anime non stop and almost 1k titles

[shell hazel]

we already got Phantom we just need the Phantom Thieves now

[shell hazel]

you win

[swift mango]

I haven't watched anime for awhile only reading the comics. So which website are you using?

[keen vapor]

I've been defeated?

[shell hazel]

I don't I just download em on my media server and go that way

I don't even rate them anymore. I just add and move on, I do find it much easier than trying to give scores 😄

[tropic summit]

amateur...

[keen vapor]

330 still too low

[shell hazel]

you gave 24 things a 1, what were they?

[tropic summit]

school days must be one of those

in fact school days is the inverse recipe to success, be such bad that you're actually famous

[swift mango]

I wonder if any Gacha ever Collab with Yu-Gi-Oh...

[shell hazel]

I think school days is actually good if you go in with the mindset that it's just messed up for the sake of it lol

[tropic summit]

oh ye, gotta detach the brain entirely with that one

||maybe also detach an head in the end||

[keen vapor]

Let's see, Akikan.... No, not school days, Yosuga no Sora instead
What more ....

[shell hazel]

and to not take it seriously

[tropic summit]

yosuga no sora was - nvm

[shell hazel]

also. nice boat

[swift mango]

Rent a girlfriend

[shell hazel]

the MC in that was too annoying lol

[tropic summit]

and we still getting new seasons, how is it possible

[keen vapor]

I'm not losing my time to even watch a single episode

[shell hazel]

like fr I wanted someone to just put him in hospital 😄

[tropic summit]

the best ending for that anime is for the girls to wake up and just ditch the lad already for someone better

[shell hazel]

FranXX as a 1 seems a little harsh

we have top tier waifu

[swift mango]

Just in time for a collab

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/zero-two-02-gif-25786707

[keen vapor]

I'm not a Zero two fan

[tropic summit]

69 dropped titles?

[keen vapor]

For now

[shell hazel]

best anime to watch... domestic girlfriend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaKdpMnwZf0

[tropic summit]

that opening was godly

minami voice is insane

[shell hazel]

hell yeah

I agree on this one btw

if I want smol girl detective anime I'm watching Gosick

[tropic summit]

this one was dissapointing and average

[keen vapor]

More aura yes

[shell hazel]

I like a good mystery show though

https://tenor.com/view/hyouka-sway-hyouka-sway-oreki-chitanda-gif-19944035

[summer copper]

ugh, have to make some new def teams now that they're consistently losing, this is what i got now but any suggestions?

[shell hazel]

it's almost easier to see who you don't have 😄

[tropic summit]

what are your current teams?

it would give us a hint to both what we could change and what isn't working

[summer copper]

if i just said i have everyone someone would still ask for a box pic

[keen vapor]

I liked Kubikiri Cycle

[shell hazel]

beheading cycle I'm a fan

[tropic summit]

what in the abomination is that 3rd and 1st teams

[keen vapor]

Cooking

[summer copper]

they worked for a long time

[tropic summit]

in reverse

[shell hazel]

too much cooking!

[swift mango]

Not an anime so probably not even possible Collab candidate lol.

[shell hazel]

no-one really talks about it but moriarty the patriot was also pretty good and I like a good villain focus thing for a change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4REhyrzmEkk

[tropic summit]

your T2 and T3 are losing to 4RL s.anis and 3RL scar-jack

your T1 lacks dmg to even be a threat

should probably switch to scar-jack-ross, 2RL cindy and any 3RL 🤔

laplace and helm are both treasured i assume?

[summer copper]

yeah

[tropic summit]

give these a try

noise centi cind helm rumani
scarlet emi rosanna anis jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis la+

what is your rosanna stats btw? OL's and skills

at your synch she needs to be at least 7/10/10 SR15 with 30-40atk%, possibly some crit chance

[swift mango]

If only there was more girls like these in Nikke.

[summer copper]

not that great

[tropic summit]

hmm, 2 more atk% OL's would help, but she's not unusable at least

give it a shot like this, if it still fails we can change rosanna's team

[shell hazel]

is normal anis so good there still for t2?

just her burst gen?

[summer copper]

i will, problem is if it does work then i expect the whales attacking me to just copy it

since one of them at least copied my current defense

[swift mango]

Imagine don't know how to beat ur old def.

[summer copper]

well, 4 days ago

[swift mango]

But can u beat your own def?

[summer copper]

yeah, like the teams beat each other

[swift mango]

Now invest in Nikke that they don't.

I doubt they would go out of their way to build Nero just to copy u.

[summer copper]

that'll be tough since they're much greater whales than i could ever hope to be

[shell hazel]

copying someone else is risky as you could have totally different investments in the units

[swift mango]

Go for it.

[shell hazel]

if they were whales that knew what they were doing they'd already be at rank 1 ages ago

[swift mango]

So long as they are within 40 level above you. You could attack them. Within 20 level and you could def against them.

[summer copper]

yeah, true

[swift mango]

If they are gemming though, just give up or be annoying. You won't beat them with that.

[summer copper]

yeah i try to be annoying

sp arena shuffle really ruined the game

[tropic summit]

shuffle is coming after this season, might get lucky

[swift mango]

Nah, try getting at least 1 whale 70 level above you before saying that.

[valid fern]

i keep forgetting liter has anti synergy with sanis.

[swift mango]

Doesn't even work with Emi.

[summer copper]

that's at least hopeless enough so you can give up right away, but when they're within reach and seem to be active 24/7 it's a bit more frustrating

[swift mango]

60 level is still within range if you high rolling for CP pad.

If I rolled for CP rather than CS I should have able to beat my big whale on ATK.

[shell hazel]

think I could take the guy in position 1 on my sp-arena tbh

his team 1 and 3 look weak no burst, if I can out-burst em, it's a win

or easy to cp gap his team 2

not sure it's really worth it though just chilling in spot 2 so far, no difference so might just stay in this uneasy truce

[eager mountain]

1 hr again

[tropic summit]

nah nah, you gonna go and take him out, we don't promote chickens here

[swift mango]

If you have enough CP and no one attacking you, no reason to not attacking them.

For fun at least

[shell hazel]

i'm not going to wait for last min but I might do it in like last hour before reset if I still have attempts to use

[tropic summit]

get your scarlet against their crown and RRH (if RRH dies they can't burst)
get a 2RL noah against their scarlet team

[shell hazel]

what should I consider for easiest 2 teams to kill?

[swift mango]

I'm still hitting C1 who 71-80 level above me even if I lose. What else would I use the attack for anyway?

[tropic summit]

the above, care just on CP deficit #pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

Already beat the c2 with one attack.

[shell hazel]

skip team 3?

[tropic summit]

no reason to deal with T3, forces your hand with CP

you can easily beat the other 2

it's a non indom scarlet, if you catch the nuke with noah, she's dead meat

the other team relies on RRH B1, kill her with scarlet and they can't even burst

let alone the feed from double MG

what you waiting, go get that ch1

[shell hazel]

ok let's see what I can cook up

[swift mango]

So can we have Akame ga Kill Collab? I guess, Esdeath could be good replacement for Makima.

[shell hazel]

my Blanc is no good sadly Railtracer 😦

no Rumani either

[tropic summit]

who's your best B2 in terms of CP

and non feeding

[tropic summit]

hmm

[shell hazel]

Naga prob, Crown 2nd, then Graves

[tropic summit]

blanc will do even if not that good

[shell hazel]

my SBS is no good either really

[tropic summit]

as for missing rumani that may need some tweaking then but you've helm 🤔

[shell hazel]

yeah

[tropic summit]

what's SBS stats and OL?

[shell hazel]

rubbish and rubbisher

no OL yet (it's on my list after helm)

[tropic summit]

ok then your xmaiden gonna need to pick the slack

in fact

we can prolly use helm

[shell hazel]

you can see how far down the list my SBS is there

[tropic summit]

i can see it

[shell hazel]

I have all the gear to OL at least lol

[tropic summit]

poor SBS, why you ignore her so much

[shell hazel]

priorities in other pvp units + campaign team

[tropic summit]

look at this monstruosity

not even 5 nikke and it's already 2RL

[shell hazel]

I needed my 3 teams we came up with to be OK stat wise 😄

[tropic summit]

literally can flex a damn MG in there lmao

[shell hazel]

cp will be the issue Anis has nothing

like 20K

[tropic summit]

how about this

[shell hazel]

the top line I posted above is somewhat usable and then we have rapu who has 1 OL

[shell hazel]

but cp ranges from 33K rapu to 66K RH at the top end

[tropic summit]

for scarlet we could place a grave instead of blanc tho

but you'd really prefer indom on scarlet

show CP with these teams just to understand how you faring #pvp-arena message 🤔

[shell hazel]

sure thing

[tropic summit]

oi noice scarlet is in range

[tropic summit]

oh looks like you've ch1 then

all good to go 🤔

[shell hazel]

you think they'll both win?

not worth subbing in cindy anywhere?

[tropic summit]

what's helm burst skill on btw?

[shell hazel]

she's low

8/4/4

[tropic summit]

hmmm

[shell hazel]

and no p3 treasure yet ofc

that's a few weeks away

on 2nd one atm

[tropic summit]

just out of curiosity

show me how much CP tanks with this

[tropic summit]

so still doable 🤔

[shell hazel]

maiden isn't that invested so kind of a wash swapping with SBS

[tropic summit]

only issue we need to fix it to be 2RL

[shell hazel]

SBS is 5/4/5

[tropic summit]

how about this

[swift mango]

I don't think you have phase 3 HelmT so better burst with XMaiden ...

[tropic summit]

yeah

that or we just go RH way

[tropic summit]

deficit on scarlet team

15,7%

[shell hazel]

it's probably blanc at fault lol

[tropic summit]

the ch1 dream

[swift mango]

This make the first team not strong enough CP to fight their Cindy

[tropic summit]

should we believe in the non invested maiden @swift mango ?

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

1/1/1 skill, no doll, no OL? Nah

[shell hazel]

xmaiden has SR-0 doll, 4/4/4 skills, 1 OL with no tuning

[tropic summit]

maybe with grave instead of blanc you get out of deficit for T1?

[shell hazel]

I know SR-0 doll is a bad idea but it's fine I have no idea when I will have materials to come back to it 😄

[swift mango]

You should have OL her amour first...

[shell hazel]

yeah I was newer back then

and was planning to OL it all but other stuff happened

I guess I probably found gloves first

[unkempt kestrel]

Is the bracket resetting soon?

[shell hazel]

it definitely does just as Blanc is so badly invested that any of my other b2's likely beat

[tropic summit]

actually, we might like this one even better:

scarlet blanc rrh centi jackal

this way we even get to keep indom 🤔

[eager mountain]

sp resets next round

[tropic summit]

12% deficit, we gud

[swift mango]

Nvm

[tropic summit]

i think you can roll with that

[unkempt kestrel]

Nuuu I finally showed my dominance and now it’s resetting

[eager mountain]

fancy plate fits precious anchor pretty well

[eager mountain]

[unkempt kestrel]

Hopefully I get lucky next bracket

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel hit them with that, maybe record, whenever you want

[shell hazel]

team 2 isn't 2 RL though I don't think, is that a problem?

[tropic summit]

quantum lvl 3 on both noah and xmaiden

you hit 2RL then

enemy scarlet will burst within 2.5-2.8RL, being 2RL ensures you catch that safely

[shell hazel]

I need to move off centi and jackal temp then

[eager mountain]

u dont need them in t1

[tropic summit]

not even level 4 yet?

but yeah remove em and swap them

[shell hazel]

no, working on it 😄

[tropic summit]

the ch1 dream is close

[shell hazel]

ha

OK I will move the cubes over, and try it 🙂

[tropic summit]

now? i need to pick popcorns

🍾 🍿 ok im ready

[shell hazel]

cubes moved, will go attack

[tropic summit]

hype

imagine it's enemy centi and jackal on quantum 7 with 17% CS, now that'd be equally exciting

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

ez pz lemon squeazy

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

video doko

i wanna watch dat rh wipe

[umbral crown]

Naga over crown

[tropic summit]

why not both on each other

[shell hazel]

on it 🙂

team 1 looked a bit closer but team 2 didn't break a sweat

[tropic summit]

we kinda castrated T1 a lot afterall

[eager mountain]

[shell hazel]

it's uploading/processing too big for discord

[tropic summit]

gonna have to watch it in 4K on YT i see

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh0nDvXoQaM

skip to about 20-25 secs in to get into actual fight lol

[harsh venture]

needing some help with this one
helm p2, drake p1

[swift mango]

If you ever feel useless, remember that I used 5 rock on Mana for this BS.

[umbral crown]

Works for me

[tropic summit]

well no so close, still half indom left there

[shell hazel]

a win is a win 😄

[eager mountain]

the real good thing about mana is that.... OL barely matters

[umbral crown]

But cp

[eager mountain]

rock malding mana mostly cp

[tropic summit]

lmao the RH wipe took 2s

[shell hazel]

should I keep the Helm def in surprise still? I could set it, but I feel like it might be a better card to play if they change up their def and take spot 1 back

[swift mango]

Unless you want CP. Or Ele for Kraken

[shell hazel]

also want more of her skills ready to go

[tropic summit]

yeah don't reveal helm to your bracket yet

[shell hazel]

I put quantum back on jackal/centi for def teams

[tropic summit]

keep her hidden until you lose ch1-ch3 range

[shell hazel]

yeah not even setting my rookie arena

[tropic summit]

yep, smart move

[shell hazel]

and yeah my RH is fairly well built she has 10/10/10 and SR-15 etc

[eager mountain]

mast is just another reaon to run alice over 100 elem mana

[tropic summit]

yup, deleted T2

[swift mango]

Like I have mast built.

[umbral crown]

Just wait shuffle

[tropic summit]

now build your poor ol SBS for your rocks farming @shell hazel

[eager mountain]

4444

[shell hazel]

gear level 5 some day... I have a list of things to OL lol

[tropic summit]

OCD triggered

[eager mountain]

its usually head>arms>>body>>>shoes

for most purposes

[shell hazel]

it won't matter much I think I can't get stage 5 yet, stage 4 kraken I can do but today I just got no rocks lol

[umbral crown]

I go body>Head>Arm>shoes on any unit

[shell hazel]

each level costs more though was my logic, and I was just trying to add cp for less input materials 😄

[umbral crown]

All the time

[shell hazel]

I barely have anyone with OL gear above 1 or 2 though, couple of pieces on 4/5 but this is the most really

[eager mountain]

shoes cp not worth at all pass lv3 unless u want a specific unit to tank in pvp

[swift mango]

I don't even pull for Maid duo.

[umbral crown]

All defenders and supports

The more hp the better

[eager mountain]

not really, even those are now filled with caster atk and they want atk gear over hp

[swift mango]

Shoe is better for Moran, Noise than Gauntlet.

[tropic summit]

helm treasured? laplace treasured?

[shell hazel]

now we wait to see what the defence looks like

[umbral crown]

[harsh venture]

helm p2 treasure, no laplace treasure

[shell hazel]

thanks btw as always! 😄

[eager mountain]

they just make most new supp have caster atk to make u invest more on them, be it gear level or dolls or dups

not a priority but a thing

[tropic summit]

skill 1 lvl 10?

[tropic summit]

no problemo was a pleasure

[shell hazel]

always fun to see the results of good planning pay off

my def teams are fairly OK cp wise so anyone wanting to win will need to throw something decent at them

[tropic summit]

yeah we had a decent puzzle to solve with CP there

[shell hazel]

my OL plan btw

orange = OL, blue = to be OL

mostly done chests for PVP units

noir/grave I was using earlier in the game so they have random ones, but quite a queue 😄

and yep not seen gloves for alice or naga yet at all, need to hit up the glove AI some more apparently

[tropic summit]

check CP with these

[shell hazel]

my def teams look OK cp wise, gotta invest in Blanc to replace Graves

team 3 is just a bit cope 😄

[tropic summit]

build that blanc already

[shell hazel]

I wish I could I really do haha

we had the plan from before but this takes a lot of time/investment to sort out, and I need to keep up somewhat in campaign as well

[tropic summit]

well yeah, pve takes precedence

[swift mango]

I feed kinda stupid but even with Helm I still got wiped after getting to Stage 5 Kraken... Maybe need to burst with Helm phase 3 once to survive...

[tropic summit]

still, hitting ch1 means you doing fine, take ur time

[tropic summit]

what are you running? with crown i can tank naga from dying with the shield 🤔

[shell hazel]

does the damage go up at higher stages? I had mine on auto with helm and it was fine

but I barely get into stage 4

[swift mango]

My SBS ded instead.

[tropic summit]

how

[shell hazel]

Rapi RH at B1 takes care of a lot of the incoming missiles

[harsh venture]

ye

[shell hazel]

her explosion booms them natively

[swift mango]

Maybe because she is Lb0 and SR5 not sr15.

Alice is Core 3 and sr15 and self heal.

[eager mountain]

u sr5'd sbs?

[swift mango]

?

[shell hazel]

I auto'd this 😄

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

I auto to phase 5 now.

[shell hazel]

helm doesn't do great healing unless she bursts though for sure

but may be better at skill 1 10 + some CS

[eager mountain]

its sync issue, her heal wont do enough there anyway

[shell hazel]

if I didn't have RRH at b1 I think I'd probably die here, she kills easily more than 50% of the projectiles

[tropic summit]

what synch you on @swift mango ?

[eager mountain]

if u can break parts then survival isnt an issue

and alice spam does that even better then sbs

[shell hazel]

yeah I think so as well, it should only get easier/better as it's based on her hp

I tried Alice/SBS instead but that is an investment issue, they don't beat my normal RH/Cindy combo due to stats

[tropic summit]

i started being able to stage 6 kraken around synch 330 and only after investing properly in alice 🤔

[eager mountain]

thats omega low investment for alice/sbs

[shell hazel]

it is yeah, but I only played since november

like start of nov, bit into anni

[swift mango]

344

[tropic summit]

oh ok we sort on the same, got 11-12 lvls+ worth of red dust waiting to be used

[shell hazel]

you sitting on it for the new chapters?

[tropic summit]

yeah coming in a few days theoretically

will clear the chaps then use them just for extra min/max value

[shell hazel]

yeah, my CD is 64/hour

it will be a while before I can push chapters 33/34 I'll probably have better luck pushing hard mode a bit if I can get more CP

at 241 I should get a nice boost

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

I need either HelmT phase 3 or Lv361 for now to get to Phase 6 Kraken.

[umbral crown]

The brick is real

[tropic summit]

don't look at me like that, unlike someone we both know i'm using them soon

[azure latch]

Is it just me or has PVP gotten harder? A couple months ago, I could get Diamond 4 easy, but now I struggle to get Diamond 6. It seems that the "scores to beat" have increased by a lot.

[umbral crown]

Soon.... 2035

[tropic summit]

nah, just a few days

[shell hazel]

if people out-play/spend you they can get ahead

if you take breaks you can fall behind

[swift mango]

Sound like your level getting more and more bricked by the day.

[tropic summit]

post your current 3 teams, maybe there's a reason there 🤔

[azure latch]

I play everyday and regularly upgrade my Nikke's, my BP has gone up steadily, but my ranking has been going down.

[eager mountain]

that pretty much means u can currently mald thru p6 and 9 rocks and 25 cs

[shell hazel]

do you buy extra event attempts and max your core dust as much as you can that way?

if you don't, over time you can slip levels away

[tropic summit]

you all assuming he's running good teams tho

[azure latch]

I don't spend any money though, at least not on upgrade stuff. I probably get enough cores to level every 3-4 days.

[swift mango]

I got to phase 5 with 1min left if I manual but look like it won't be comfortable at all for the rest of the way.

[shell hazel]

yeah post your teams as Railtracer suggested

[azure latch]

okay

[shell hazel]

may be a team issue as people learnt how to beat your defences

[azure latch]

I used to beat people with higher scores, so yeah maybe meta changed a bit

[shell hazel]

do buy the event attempts though (with gems not cash) as this is a massive source of core dust crates!

[tropic summit]

god knows how many ppl got bricked because of not knowing that

[eager mountain]

1m left, so u can hit around p6.5 then, thats pretty decently invested pve units

[shell hazel]

your store on every event should look something like this

[azure latch]

@shell hazel Ah, I've been getting some of those, but not always.

[tropic summit]

oh.

[azure latch]

I'll post my teams in a sec

[shell hazel]

banner is skippable

but you should buy them all and repeat 1-11 hard for core dust crates, once hard mode unlocks (don't bother before)

[swift mango]

Rock x3 is only 1% drop rate anyway.

And this is the real challenge.

#pvp-arena message

[eager mountain]

for the rng issue you should seek rail's blessing

[shell hazel]

I trade battle data for core dust as well (it's a short term gain) but I want to lock in levels asap to get more outpost etc

[swift mango]

Couldn't even get a random line 3 to help my life.

[azure latch]

I think it's easier to post who I don't own this than my full roster

[shell hazel]

you should post your roster sorted by power as well - it helps to see who you invested

[eager mountain]

it def helps, and full roster shows yeah, investment

[shell hazel]

you're miles ahead of me in terms of sync 😄

[brazen ledge]

Roaster is better

And for atk you only focus on 2 teams

[eager mountain]

just both tbh

unless u have almost all units, or only have 2 page of units

[shell hazel]

your ATK and DEF teams definitely the same, you're on the ATK tab there?

[tropic summit]

T1 and T2 are okish, but what's that T3

[eager mountain]

the forbidden sg team that makes 1rl a reality

[brazen ledge]

It’s a piece of art

[dim sapphire]

privaty is very dangerous to face when enemy just cp padding and 2rl/3rl dont work cause more than 15.4% deficit

[brazen ledge]

not for you though!

[dim sapphire]

anyway to combat that very annoying

[shell hazel]

Viper is instant win if you ask me

[brazen ledge]

Beautiful Isabel skin btw

[tropic summit]

the only real 1RL reality is enemy cindy in p1

[eager mountain]

the amount of cindy p1 is unreal

[brazen ledge]

How

[eager mountain]

dont they know they are losing at least when trying to attck with p1 cindy

[tropic summit]

1.75x burst gen if enemy cindy is in p1 due to decoy

[swift mango]

Just a quick look, if this was your DEF team, I could say that the only reason you had this rank was not because you team suck but because you are level bricked comparing to your bracket.

[brazen ledge]

Oh yes true

[dim sapphire]

bro put noah in the middle too

[tropic summit]

either way taking a look let's fix that mess of T3

[brazen ledge]

The gold mine if someone does that in your lobby

[azure latch]

I think I did the t3 based on the nikke.gg guide, but didn't have who they recommended

[swift mango]

If you owned 2B and A2 and only 338 then you are definitely lv bricked.

[azure latch]

Don't remember, it's been a while

[shell hazel]

also bear in mind what I said you showed the teams on ATK tab - double check they match your DEF teams (they likely do but best to check!)

[azure latch]

They match

[swift mango]

It's still 3rl team. Not that instant loss.

[tropic summit]

the feed

[swift mango]

Could normal attack Scarlet to death before she even burst

[azure latch]

I think I still don't really understand how viper works. Anytime I put her in a line up I feel super confused

I try to get as many cores without spending gems, so I guess I've been a bit slow in leveling

[swift mango]

Is your Viper treasure Phase 3? Because if so she isn't a burst 2 anymore

[azure latch]

She is

[shell hazel]

it's 100% worth it, like 1K gems (3 odd pulls) for 250-300 core dust crates

[valid fern]

viper mostly there for free attack buff and battery. one of the few who can buff pepper's burst

[tropic summit]

laplace treasured? do you've rapunzel?

[swift mango]

@tropic summit now 100% have to fix it.

[azure latch]

La place is too

[tropic summit]

you don't say...

[azure latch]

I don't have OG rapunzel

[tropic summit]

oof oke

[azure latch]

her and dorothy are the only pilgrims I'm missing

[shell hazel]

how tf have I got LB2 Rapunzel

[azure latch]

I cry myself to sleep every night

thinking about how long I've been denied them

[shell hazel]

man Doro though, she is legit pretty good

every time I get her out for the raids I have fun using her flashbang

[azure latch]

I have Noah almost max cores, everytime I pull another Noah I shed a tear

[shell hazel]

F

may the wishlist bless you

[swift mango]

Some people build 2.5 RL Cindy p1 just to force their enemy to be 2rl.

[azure latch]

I only spend gold tickets on limited Nikke's so I think that has caused my odds of getting more Pilgrims low

[shell hazel]

gems on ordinary? not worth in your shoes no, but guess we get odd freebie ordinary tickets

[azure latch]

I only pull when my roster is at least half unowned, and only when my tickets are above 100. I did a big pull recently, so I am building my collection back up

[shell hazel]

you'll get em eventually I'm sure

[azure latch]

Yeah

[rich quail]

I tried an experiment recently… I saved as many rocks as I could for a month and ended up with 82, with 557 temp locks.

I ended up working on Cindy and Helm exclusively, because Cindy was very low for a 10/10/10 unit with all OL+5 gear, and Helm I only had 1 line for 3 of my 4 OL gears

Cindy was initially 4 ele dmg but no atk lines, and the ele dmg lines were either the 1st or 2nd line. I am trying to get 4 atk and 4 ele dmg.

I ended up with 4 atk, 2 ele dmg, and 1 max ammo (black)

Helm is better now but still kinda mid, so will save for another month

[shell hazel]

but yeah fix your event things and buy the extras if you can it's worth it, and use your core dust etc to gain levels or you can fall behind some in pvp as well

[rich quail]

5,400 cp increase for Cindy

[azure latch]

My gems just got back up to 100k+ so I'll feel comfortable getting the event gems. So, no ideas for my 3rd team?

[shell hazel]

railtracer on it

[eager mountain]

So just annnnother answer to emi defense

[azure latch]

OIC

[shell hazel]

I got like 40K gems for eva collab hopefully enough, got mileage but want to save it if I can

prepared to bet them all

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind emilia noise
scarlet blanc rh la+ jackal
noah biscuit pepper s.anis maiden

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, pepper, biscuit, noise
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9 and have no ammo OL's

wishlist/notes: build asap helmT, get rapunzel and rumani ready in the near future (see attached screenshot)

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[raven plover]

eva collab this time surely pvp units cus CA soon right

[tropic summit]

i'd rather not, in fact hoping they suck so i can save gems

[shell hazel]

i'll grab 1 of each for limited anyway if I can

[tropic summit]

hating collab in nikke because there's soon gonna be more collab units than nikke original units in raid teams if that trend continues

[azure latch]

I almost didn't get the last limited with over 80k gems and 50 gold tickets.

[shell hazel]

I spent 9 rocks trying to get anything other than this and nope, all went into the rock crushing machine 😄

this was for Cindy

[tropic summit]

the game is telling you to build blanc and sbs

[shell hazel]

hit rate, crit stats kept popping up, def etc

[tropic summit]

embrace pvp and discard pve

[shell hazel]

😛

[tropic summit]

although cindy is still very pvp

[plucky charm]

any improvements i can make here for def team?
i have the leftover ny pick i could use it to try to get treasure helm

[shell hazel]

they are good for both I don't mind building them but my real gate atm is just gear fodder for OL in the first place

and skill manuals

[azure latch]

I participate in the PVP, but I am way more interested in getting the favorite items now that I've finished the campaign

[shell hazel]

and doll materials

[tropic summit]

T1: overall weaker B3 for defense teams, pick something alternative if possible
T2: move noise in p5 and naga in p1, your only b1 is exposed
T3: fine as is, ensure quantum on jackal and xmaiden

[shell hazel]

if you got Helm already you can silver mileage extra Helm copies, you only need LB2

[azure latch]

@shell hazel @tropic summit thanks for your input

[harsh venture]

no rumani

[plucky charm]

T1 sbs is my highest combat power char rn since shes max and has multi copies
T2 moved over
T3 cubed as well
ty👍

[tropic summit]

yeah looks good then, go with that

[plucky charm]

i can do it rn i dont need 3rd copy?

[shell hazel]

2 LB is good

[plucky charm]

o hell yea

[shell hazel]

no need for more, bond 30 🙂

use your selector on someone you missing or w/e some decent pvp units you could be lacking, or just that random blanc you never got

[plucky charm]

i could do rumani to get another burst gen

[shell hazel]

she is decent I think yeah, I have her in my wish list

some good options for pve as well, QeQ, Ein, Rouge etc

[tropic summit]

hmm a bit risky but with rapu might still be ok

lemme see CP

[shell hazel]

see who you want who you don't have, but Rumani I'd probably say it's not a bad pick!

[glad meteor]

They need to switch blanc placement ?

[harsh venture]

sec

[plucky charm]

i got those already im gonna ticket rumani and figure out where to fit her thanks 👍

[tropic summit]

oh you're right

[tropic summit]

try with this (move blanc in p2 and RH in p3):

CP wise you're in range:

869 vs 988 = 12,1% deficit
865 vs 874 = 1,1% deficit

if you can record match so we can see how it plays out (curious on emi surviving and your noah catching scarlet in time)

[harsh venture]

well noah didnt catch

but the spare units i put in t1 randomly won

[tropic summit]

yeah looks like it needs to be 2RL

good for the other team instead 🤔

so both emi and blanc survive in T2?

[harsh venture]

ill upload vid a sec

[tropic summit]

oh thank you

24 bullets and still kicks scarlet into 2RL...

[glad meteor]

P1/2 linked + scar s2

[tropic summit]

yeah i guess, that's the perk of having jackal in p1

now i understand why some of my bracket were struggling with scarlet la+ blanc centi jackal, that team goes 2RL

[mild lion]

Oh great and wise senseis of the arena. May this learner pick thy brains for a spell?

I used to beat this DEF easily but following this player's obtaining THelm he re-did his DEF and I am having trouble.

I can still beat his Scarlet team with my own Scarlet team: Noise Noah Scarlet Centi Jackal
But I can no longer break his Noah team with my Emilia team: Blanc Emilia RH Biscuit Rapunzel.

I have everyone usable except for Rosanna. How can I adjust? The main issue is no longer bursting fast enough on Emi's team. I tried using Rumani but her taunt is causing her to steal Blanc's invul.

[glad meteor]

Crit go crazy

[hazy shore]

hello should I give up if they keep camping my spot and spending gems on it?

[eager mountain]

make them burn gems without u burning any

[hazy shore]

I already did spend my free ones

[eager mountain]

oh well lol

[hazy shore]

this bracket too whale

[eager mountain]

u dont want that to happen

but u can try to see when he sleeps

[hazy shore]

oh goodness

Yeah this guy should be asleep by now since I'm not living on my server

[tropic summit]

do you've helmT yourself?

skill 1 lvl 10, stage 2

[mild lion]

Not yet, but soon. I would implement something operating on the assumption I have her for when that is the case.

[tropic summit]

hmm i'm thinking one option is this one

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-terra-ust-message-money-gif-23530621

[tropic summit]

T1 will have enemy emilia killed with RH indommed shooting on your own indommed scarlet, emilia on your side should be unlinked and survive with scarlet, she'll finish off RH post indom

T2 will have s.anis do a cleanup of backline, cindy will die likely for last

[eager mountain]

but yeah thats what happens when u try to attempt vengeance against mf that burns gems against u

[tropic summit]

another alternative would be this, although perhaps more risky, as their rosanna may crit, it requires your SBS to tank it (should be fine on SR15 doll)

i'd say try with the first option i gave you, if it fails can run this last one instead

if possible record it so we can gain extra info on their possible CS% lines and dmg output on rosanna

[lapis field]

I wish that I had more gems like that but damn, been there, done that on spa...

[vapid lake]

[lapis field]

Clutch 😯

[mild lion]

For reference the band-aid fix I used to beat him for now is
Emilia Blanc RH Centi Jackal which works very well
and Noah Biscuit Scarlet Helm Rapunzel, issue being its janky af. Everyone dies except for Rapunzel and Noah, they rez Scar and she nukes.

I am confused how to read the charts you sent. Which ones do I implement, since there are 4 tables and each one uses some of the same units.

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left, they face the respective team on the right, which is the enemy

[mild lion]

ah gotcha

So I am gonna run 3 main B3s on one team and then switch to an SAnis team for the second?

[tropic summit]

the most important things to get from that is the RL threshold (when you burst vs when they burst) and quantum placement, + positions

teams will be

scarlet blanc rh emilia jackal
noah centi biscuit s.anis rumani

quantum must be given to rumani and centi, can be given to emilia and jackal
s.anis must've resil and lvl 9 burst skill, no ammo OL's

those teams will face the respective enemy on the right

cubes on enemy are "assumed" as we don't know yet, but we'll see from the record if you upload it

[mild lion]

I will give a try next time he bumps me and see how it does. What do you suggest for recording? I would do it if I can.

[tropic summit]

uh OBS works fairly well on PC, on mobile i wouldn't honestly know 🤔

[vapid lake]

Ask one of the phone only gamers we have

Like echo or retro

[mild lion]

Aight I will install OBS. He likely wont bump me until tomorrow.

Thanks for the help!

[tropic summit]

no problemo

the reason your noah team dies is because you're too slow, gotta kick it into 2RL

(like in the pic)

[lapis field]

2RL means that after 2 full attacks going full burst?

[eager mountain]

ye 2 standard rl hits

[lapis field]

Which is better?

[eager mountain]

the earlier the merrier

usually

[lapis field]

I see I see. Makes sense! Thanks for answering!!

[eager mountain]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/
https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1153017654332883055

[lapis field]

I kept forgetting this to ask about that! Thank you again!!

Already downloaded

[plucky charm]

hows this looking for def team?

[eager mountain]

decent, jackel team usually fine with 96.45%, rh is not a good carry since its single target, sbs also not ideal, do u have other dps

[plucky charm]

i can swap in cindy

rn sbs is my highest combat power so i dont want to get gapped either

[eager mountain]

thats usually the reason, but usually not worth unless the cp diff it gigtanic, invest ur pvp dps anyway, if u wanna focus a bit on pvp

same reason why anis is still a premium battery

[plucky charm]

yea just a defecit and i dont have xmas anne or emilia

[eager mountain]

u def want a cindy, but also ideally make it 2rl, that will be an expensive team for opponent to break

u can swap helm to other clip rl, scar team can still reach 2-2.5rl depending on feed and rng

[plucky charm]

i tried swapping it goes back to 3rl

[eager mountain]

its at least 2.5 rl against most teams

and 2rl against any team with any ar/sg/smg/sg, if they wanna go full rl/sr team to avoid that, this def does some job already

u can go anis for slight higher % and thus slight less scar s2 rng dependent

10 hits per jackel 3.55% gen
30% per hit for scar 0.5% gen

[plucky charm]

can do this

[eager mountain]

whats ur quantum lv

[plucky charm]

6

[eager mountain]

rumani doesnt need quantum for that team so anis can use it
and for your t2, u can improve it after building other meta pvp dps

[plucky charm]

after swapping the cube is the setup good enough for now?

[eager mountain]

t1t3 are both fairly good, just t2 has issues

[plucky charm]

cool thank you

[eager mountain]

u can post box to see who to invest

[plucky charm]

this is sorted for burst3 chars

[eager mountain]

Prob Sanis then, falling off a bit for most ppl. Ein and Quincy also not bad ig but Sanis is better

Tho I’d say prioritize kraken if u don’t s6 or s7 him already

[quick lake]

Silver

[plucky charm]

yea i will more when i get the t9m i need

thank you

[eager mountain]

If u still need t9m then prioritize rapi, meta for all AI

[eager mountain]

s9 mc

[plucky charm]

ill work on her too
just not enough xp fodder for everything

[quick lake]

T1 is good
T2 unprotected P1 noise is very risky at 3RL. Opponent can easily run 5SGs and mow u down
T3, singled buffed scarlet is not enough these days. Needs 2 buffers eg RH Blanc

[plucky charm]

i can put rh back into t3 and swap anis out to t2 to turn it into 2.5rl

idk whats better tho

[eager mountain]

It’s indom scar, 3rl blanc might die, at least maiden also buffs a bit

I like sniping p2 3rl blanc for this reason

Namely with resil rumani