pvp-arena

[vapid lake]

Yes im on a quest to make rapipipi #1 cp on my account because she never leaving my campaign team

[keen vapor]

Solo raid in 3 days

[eager mountain]

yes and when u minmaxing and u see this

what do u do

rolling 3rd would be 80ish rocks which is higher cost then minmax 3 new lines

[vapid lake]

Save 30 rock do all at one go

[eager mountain]

but those 2 lines already in tier 11 so hard to get rid of unless aiming for blue/black lines

🤔 so i guess the answer could be dependent on whether the first 2 has elem or not, would be expensive to roll for tier 11ish elem if reroll form 3rd line

perferably atk+elem since ammo has 2% higher pull rate so less expensive to get 3rd line ammo

[dim escarp]

helm doll

[dusk kayak]

I built this team but all the teams are <300k and all my opponents are >350k

[keen vapor]

Not even me

[dim escarp]

[quick lake]

Why isnt she ready

[keen vapor]

Stuck on 9 blue kits to gamble again

I mean, I could open more cases but, at this point I'm resigned to Solo raid

I can't save the current SP season anyways

[umbral crown]

he just hoarding kits

[umbral crown]

361 then

[keen vapor]

I told you 9

[keen vapor]

When new chapters releases, sure

[umbral crown]

show yourn kits

[umbral crown]

if this was true, valdria una fortuna

[keen vapor]

9 blue

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Now I'm going to do daily wipeout

[umbral crown]

wasting gems

[swift mango]

Show us the screenshot of your inventory

[eager mountain]

[keen vapor]

I have 5 & 5 closed maint kits but...!

[umbral belfry]

once i get all my main campaign nikke at 4/4 OL, do i shift my focus to my pvp nikkes? or level up/reroll my main nikke gear?

[eager mountain]

main, getting ol for pvp dps for a moment could also do

[umbral belfry]

like to level up and reroll for ideal stats right?

[eager mountain]

yes, but its too expensive for u to minmax anyone, so you would settle with either high cp line peer ol or 1-2 good lines per ol as for now

[swift mango]

Just lock line 2

[eager mountain]

same if its not elem?

[umbral belfry]

I think I read somewhere that thr high cp likes were ele dmg right? which I'd need anyway lmao but just to make sure

I just to off prydwen's guide

[swift mango]

Lock because Ele

[eager mountain]

yes but cp gain is mostly dependent on OL lines tier, 1-15, multiplier is 2-16 i think

[umbral belfry]

[eager mountain]

now, what if u get first line black ele and nothing else, whats ur choice

[swift mango]

Lock unless I really really want CS and it's non DPS.

[eager mountain]

[tulip quest]

Can I ask for suggestions? Laplace rolls better ELE or charge speed in pvp if you have to choose 1? (I just got my cp fixed im just reading conversation here for long time)

[keen vapor]

How you'll have to choose one

Ideally is both + attack

[tulip quest]

Thanks, just thought maybe can use laplace as electric counter dps for Drunk Scar and Cindy cause I usually don't care much bout ELE except for Solo raid and MQ Hard

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Go ele

[eager mountain]

ele, shes not clip rl and is iron offdps

[eager mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1333630505270382593/1026322546934698004.gif

[tulip quest]

Yea not clip alright

[umbral crown]

Yeo

[tulip quest]

I tested Anchor Maid standing reload

Not clip also

sad

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

4ele 4cs laplace

[umbral crown]

2 ammo 2 atk

[quick lake]

Monster laplace

[umbral crown]

indeed

[tulip quest]

That's a DREAM or ALL YOUR STONES

[eager mountain]

more like, la+ simp certification

[copper creek]

4cs 4ele 4atk laplace+
800 rocks byebye

[tulip quest]

Lel thats just estimation if your unlucky rng wise would be worst by my gacha experience XD

[eager mountain]

wrong

minmax all 4 gear est would be 200-240ish if not care about line tier

[glad meteor]

Resetting stats is the fun part

[eager mountain]

i aint rolling for blue lines black lines only not even for hard meta like cindy

[copper creek]

yeah but of course we care about line tier, anything sub-tier10 might as well just cry

[eager mountain]

year worth of rock, id settle with tier 8+ or 9+ elem, its just way too expensive

[tulip quest]

I just min max High priority Chara Cindy, Redhood ETC. I just mainly use Meta and RL chara on pvp so just charge speed okay for me, Unless I go insane and wants to cp gap my opponents at all cost. RIP ROCKS

[eager mountain]

now they have overspec and had 2 pilgrim banner in one event and a majority of them are hard meta, how tf can someone minmax + t11+ them all

[tulip quest]

Oh my EMI Tho has 3 set of Lines ALL ELE, CS ATTACK, Except last line AMMO ELE ATTACK.

[tulip quest]

Just choose what you always Use, My modernia is still a baby, can't min max all meta.

[eager mountain]

or this for meta and have lil spare rocks available for all others

mods benched anyway campaign benched by asuka, sr wise no longer gurantee non elem offburst spot and competing with xlud before maids f them both

[tulip quest]

You have to choose your Meta and min max it for MQ Hard im 416 and Current 30:5 or you will be level gapped Like Currently I gapped my bracket by like 20-30 levels

and I only buy the 100gems a day 5 dollar pack

not a whale or something

And some of them even has 60 costumes by now

[eager mountain]

im 521 and done with hard ch

still half way minmaxing rapipi preping for next ch

[tulip quest]

Aight just that in lower levels it's more apparent and emphasized MQ Hard pushing, cause levels still part of pvp whether you like it or not

[eager mountain]

thats why i usually tell lower sync to focus on campaign first for the level, and kraken for the rock

[swift mango]

Not in CA at least

Well, higher levels have higher infrastructure bonus though.

[tulip quest]

I hope so too my other whale friend is 100 levels higher than me LOL

[swift mango]

So it's sth.

[tulip quest]

hE STARTED 6 month late btw

Nikke started

[eager mountain]

Damn whale

[swift mango]

0x3=0.
A math for those who know.

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

4 rock if you were lucky

[tulip quest]

Haahahhahahahah

[onyx scaffold]

how is this possible

[keen vapor]

Well, it is

Less than 10% probability is still possible after all

[copper creek]

if i get that luck on my rolls for a character i care for i will legit buy everyone here a vesper

ill even do u all one better

we can get the vespers at Live Twice

[spiral onyx]

Can I get a yellow Vespa

https://tenor.com/view/flcl-vespa-haruko-driving-gif-2757621856033085419

[grizzled bone]

We Dru k out here

Mods are asleep
Everyone post weird cooks

Moran Noah Nero Rapunzel cindy

[eager mountain]

Noise manchor thelm mana jackel

[valid fern]

Poli Viper BSoda XMica Biscuit

[copper creek]

cindy xmica helm+ blanc rapunzel

[tender valve]

Ein Blanc rh helmt+ makima

[coarse lake]

scarlet xanne rapunzel centi mana

[tender valve]

still waiting for all player CA chat help team counter here

[coarse lake]

Depending on how it works you won't catch me helping anyone here lol

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/shokugekino-souma-yukihara-souma-yukihara-gif-5892423

[copper creek]

do u one better. cheers brother

Vesper (ki no bi sei, absolut elyx, tempus fugit kina l'aero d'or, fernet hunter granit) at Live Twice, Singapore

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/flcl-anime-gif-9463277

[rich quail]

Bro, the pillows disbanded just last week

[limber rampart]

Are there any possible chance to win this round?

[tropic summit]

25% deficit, automatic loss

always calculate CP difference before attempting, if deficit higher than 15%, consider different opponent/team

[tropic summit]

that's because your meta teams are less invested than pure CP pad, until you've the pvp core units invested you may want to consider running pure CP padded teams, as having 15% or higher deficit will just make your effort meaningless

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[limber rampart]

omg new knowledge thank u so much

[hollow anchor]

Will I win this???

[swift mango]

Is Scarlet linked and invested? If she does, just move her to p1.

[hollow anchor]

Linked?

[raven plover]

its jackal skill, it "links" her with 2 highest atk unit in the team, as in sharing dmg taken

[tropic summit]

jackal is linked to the 2 highest atk% units in your team, e.g. in your case it's probably either rh alice or scarlet

ensure scarlet is either 2nd or 1st highest atk% between alice and RH (overload atk% lines also count toward that)

that way you can use scarlet in p1, to increase trigger count of both burst gen and counters (s2)

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[rich quail]

It’s time for drunken karaoke, singing Hybrid Rainbow

[spiral onyx]

Fk that's depressing news

[rich quail]

You’re telling me
It was all of a sudden, too

[spiral onyx]

I got to see them in person in 2018. Was a treat for sure but they were quite old so it's not a surprise, but still sad news
https://www.flickr.com/photos/keripo/albums/72157671233174828/

[tropic summit]

[hollow anchor]

@tropic summit @raven plover @swift mango what about this enemy?

[tropic summit]

deficit in favour, as long as scarlet is linked (care as you running alice aswell), you'll have s.anis suicide on scarlet then simply kill them afterward

[hollow anchor]

So don’t change the team?

[tropic summit]

if scarlet is linked, p1 scarlet is fine, move jackal in p5 to benefit from extra feeding from enemy s.anis, as SGs shoot p5 when you're attacking

scarlet noah rh alice jackal

[hollow anchor]

Attack failed 😅

[tropic summit]

was scarlet linked?

not sure how to make it more clear

[hollow anchor]

I did that placement

[tropic summit]

@swift mango i got to go back to the office, please explain to him in detail how to check nikke atk% and linked units

i don't think the lad gets it unless you guide them through checking atk% on their alice, rh and scarlet

#pvp-arena message

[hollow anchor]

Yeah sorry mate

[tropic summit]

no worries, it's not as obvious as it seems, especially for ppl who learn of that for the first time

[hollow anchor]

I ain’t a strategist player 😅

[tropic summit]

not much of a strategy, just need to read

[onyx scaffold]

Should have put Jackal p1 smh my head

[tropic summit]

you miss RH B1, although on deficit he might not even need it, it's probably best he does learn the mechanic for when he's not on deficit advantage, though

[hollow anchor]

I skip battle btw if that does something to the battle 😅

[shell hazel]

you can re-watch them

[rich quail]

You need to see and record the replay to really understand how you lost. You have a pretty big cp advantage as well, so something’s up

[shell hazel]

bottom left replay button on skip, if you want to see what happened on it

you can't re-watch once you leave the end battle screen though

[swift mango]

Bring the team to mock battle or Union shoot range...

Pause and look at your nikke to find the 3 nikkes that got the name of skill 1 one of Jackal on...

There you know the 3 that got linked.

If you wanted to MATH...

(Their attack showed on the character info) * (1+total OL ATK% on all equips)

Find the 2 with the highest results, they will be linked.

[onyx scaffold]

[hollow anchor]

I know, but when I went back to the app it went back to the arena straight away so I couldn’t go see the replay 😅

[tulip quest]

Ya Just put Scarlet at p1 if Linked if not Switch Your positions Noah Shud be P1

[tulip quest]

Change Position of your characters Especially NOAH, if you put NOAH P3 and she taunts a Rocket Launcher 3people gets splashed instead of 2

Meaning enemy burst becomes faster

Also your Main dps comp Scarlet is countered by NOAH his Summer Anis isn't

[grand plaza]

[gaunt cypress]

sound:0:5

[swift mango]

If scarlet isn't linked, p1 scarlet can be used as Sacc.

[strange quail]

Do you think 2RL Cindy beat this ?

[glad meteor]

Probably needs a buffer to secure

Noah centi cindy rh jackal probably

[upper grove]

@tropic summit it was broken! after 35 days
Now I'm gonna cook vs his def, should be easy, it's the cindy P2 guy.

Might need new DEF though

[gilded sluice]

can somebody recommend good sp arena def teams? have almost all nikkes, helm and laplace have treasures

[bright mantle]

what is this software

[strange quail]

https://nikke-deck.web.app

[bright mantle]

if rosanna only has 1 attacker target, who would the second blast hit

[upper grove]

this should be easy win right?

Team 1: I don't want to bother with biscuit noah T1 even though it's an Alice defending so I could abuse that
Team 2: My scar is faster because Blanc feed is less than noir/crown feed and I have indom scar so I'm not afraid at all
Team 3: Noah eating cindy nuke, I don't care about indom Cindy even with Rapu revive because my SBS clears everything and cindy w/o burst shouldn't be able to solo my team until indom runs out.

Is there anything I'm missing?

I underestimated their team 2 dmg a bit, but their Crown died before burst is their Jackal link Crown Scar then? SBS wasn't linked, no dmg

[bright mantle]

is this an easy win? he is 3RL and im 2RL

[upper grove]

woops wrong numbers nvm me

[glad meteor]

They could be 2.5 RL

Though 2 RL noah should block

Though they say emi with 38% CS can hit 3 shots in 2 RL. So potentially, there’s a breakpoint to where emi 3rd shot can hit before noah burst takes effect which would take less CS, and let rosanna burst

Unlikely though.

[brazen ledge]

what to do pls

here do i get 2.5rl burst ?

[glad meteor]

Just go 2rl noah

[brazen ledge]

i wanted to keep noah for t1

[glad meteor]

Yeah, probably 2rl noah and scar blanc rh

[lunar dirge]

Try scar blanc rh helm jackal, Noah noise s.anis Rapunzel biscu, centi anis rumani Cindy xmaiden for starters

[brazen ledge]

which order pls

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Yes, unless he has 10+% charge speed on everyone but ASS and SR 15 doll on everyone, and lv450+ and it's non-buff Cindy. Better yet, he lv gaps or CP gap you.

[glad meteor]

Need quantum on t1, put it on noah too I guess

[upper grove]

Only 1 guy broke through in a month. I'm quite certain he CP gapped 1 team with pve units, as my pvp only units have no OL atm. Def might be stable once all units have OL but I want to get more opinions.
Roster has OL until xmaiden, rest still has to get OL. Can anyone cook something better until I OL my pvp units?

Current plan is to use treasure helm instead of Alice for 2RL Cindy once I have doll finished.

[brazen ledge]

wanna hit this guy, i can hit t1 and t2 not t3

but ill be playing with a lot of deficit, less than 15.5

[upper grove]

at first glance: scar jack the 2nd team, so many SGs. team 1: does a sbs team work? It's only noah without biscuit

[brazen ledge]

he went up in cp on t1

[upper grove]

or any other dps with longer aoe non instant burst like sbs for t1, idk how emilia plays because noone has her here

[brazen ledge]

i have her though

[upper grove]

can't help with cooking emilia teams, but the 2nd team should be easy scar jack food with 3 SG, it's also only 3RL

[brazen ledge]

and help me cook t1 pls

[upper grove]

yeah both teams 3RL and yours gets so much feed down to at least 2.5RL. idk if rosanna is needed, nothing useful to dispel, checking T1

[brazen ledge]

its just bc i built her

and wanna use rh for p1

[upper grove]

you can use rosanna for unlinking their jackal T1

2RL scar jack team though

[brazen ledge]

So can you tell me what should I do for t1 like the 5 nikkes I use

[upper grove]

t3 is so much easier to build against but cp gap

[brazen ledge]

oh yes

i js can't hit t3

my highest cp team in campaign is 600K

[upper grove]

do you have helm treasure?

[brazen ledge]

nope

not yet, i only have laplace treasure

[upper grove]

idk if my approach is correct, but I'm trying to get a 2RL team which immunes the scar burst + a long aoe duration burst without using jackal and anis because of T2 Noah + 4 but thinking

[brazen ledge]

so did you cook anything ?

[upper grove]

idk how emilia works but you could try an Emilia team with Noah and batteries to match his 2RL. no idea if unbuffed emilia kills and how much the delay is vs noah burst

[brazen ledge]

Ill try to see what I can do with emi

[lusty gull]

new feature available on nikke deck : #1324415122743234634 message

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/otsu-bandori-bang-dream-girls-band-party-great-job-gif-26584812

[shell hazel]

Look how far we come @tropic summit

[summer copper]

must be nice having such a dead pool

[shell hazel]

think not attacked much as the defence is fairly decent (not amazing but better than most) and I'm a bit stronger than the ones in 4+ as a result

[swift mango]

Your synch level?

Saw it... 600k at 373 is pretty low.

No wonder you had trouble dealing with lv404.

[swift mango]

For team 1, just do 2rl Noah+SBS.

Even 2RL Noah+Emi would work if your Emi strong enough.

Idk why you used Rossanna to fight ASS but should be fine I guess.

[brazen ledge]

wdym its pretty low bro

[swift mango]

[brazen ledge]

i didn't fight i was eating

[swift mango]

My campaign team is 580k at 340

[brazen ledge]

ok ?

[swift mango]

So should be above 600k at 353. 20 lv lower than you.

So 600k at 373 is pretty low.

[brazen ledge]

ok ?

i don't see how that matters

[swift mango]

CP matters when you fight someone higher level than you.

[brazen ledge]

i don't understand why my campaign team cp matters for pvp

[tropic summit]

did you check if they ended up copying your def to attack you? now that'd be hilarious

[brazen ledge]

and it being low or high for your standards

[tropic summit]

post your current def and box let's see if we can upgrade anything

[brazen ledge]

it is how it is ill have to deal with it

[tropic summit]

aye good stuff

[swift mango]

If you Arena team also having 600k then you should be fine.

[brazen ledge]

max i can get is 550k with pvp teams

maybe 560

[shell hazel]

hmm can you see that?

[tropic summit]

awesome, thank you for your good work

[tropic summit]

can mostly tell from built nikke on def team, although it gets less likely the higher sync, as they can spread investiment

[shell hazel]

ah was hoping there was a way to see who was used in the records

[swift mango]

That's pretty low but if you could get 2RL Noah+SBS to 525k you should be fine.

To hit team 1. Hope it's doable, should be fine if you Arena team all have OL.

It's actually good if your Arena team average out at 525k at least. So we won't have trouble hitting the Whale.

[tropic summit]

oh right you didn't have s.anis for T2, that's sort of the weakest link 🤔

[tropic summit]

eh, that'd make it a tad too easy perhaps, probably the main reason they don't let you see replays of def battles

[brazen ledge]

i can get 2.5rl with 535k

[brazen ledge]

.

[upper grove]

nah their def was posted a bit below my post, with the vid

[swift mango]

Hit team 1 is 2rl though.

[upper grove]

yes no s anis no emilia

[brazen ledge]

i can get 2rl but i don't have the 525 i think

[upper grove]

@tropic summit #pvp-arena message that was the DEF

which is why I'm quite sure that guy just cp gaps one team and barely kills another

[swift mango]

I trust that you know your boxes best. So what's the Cp?

[tropic summit]

either that, or skipping your scarlet team to use biscuit and noah against the other 2, as SBS distributed dmg agaisnt invulnerable target is pretty much 0 dmg

we should consider a less counterable B3 in T2 🤔

[brazen ledge]

i got to that

[twilit bay]

How do I beat Scarlet Blanc RH Emilia Jackal?

[brazen ledge]

i get to 507, still 2rl with noise

[swift mango]

Do you have Red hood?

[upper grove]

yep sounds good to me

[brazen ledge]

on 2nd team

[tropic summit]

oh indom scarlet actually this

[swift mango]

What's the 2nd team currently?

[brazen ledge]

2nd team is there with rh instead of rosanna

[upper grove]

the guy definitely uses biscuit noah because he just uses biscuit noah cindy nuke like 3-4 other guys in rookie there

[brazen ledge]

and i have a lot more cp with this team than with the other

[swift mango]

You should try to share with 1st team more. Try experiment with how to do a sacc on Rossanna to increase your burst gen too.

[brazen ledge]

that maybe ?

[tropic summit]

what's your rosanna skill lvl and OL's? 🤔

[brazen ledge]

7/10/10, 30% atk, 30% ele

[twilit bay]

Scarlet burst before my noah

[swift mango]

Team 2 only need 488k to not be under stat nerf.

Team 1 needs 529k to do the same.

Balance your teams CP is the key.

[brazen ledge]

and 30% crit dmg if thats useful for anything

[tropic summit]

oh alright she'll hurt

[brazen ledge]

oh yes shell

am i in the cp range ?

[swift mango]

You are but you will need to try some Rossanna sacc to get to burst faster without using lower CP units like Rumani.

[brazen ledge]

im not

i need 535k min

[swift mango]

528k

Emi+Noah+SBS+Rossanna+Rumani for example.

[swift mango]

Okay, you need 535 to not be stat gapped

[brazen ledge]

could i use another cube on centi for more cp if i sac her ?

and same on rosanna

[swift mango]

You could just use another high CP rather than Centi at all.

[brazen ledge]

if both get resilience or bastion i think im good

[swift mango]

[brazen ledge]

so just put liter for example ?

[swift mango]

Sure. Anyone with high CP.

---

I have said my pieces. You definitely could beat that guy with your roster. But I don't know your box well enough and I don't want to know.

[brazen ledge]

well try it with that

good positionning ?

[swift mango]

No... This won't work...

[brazen ledge]

why

[swift mango]

Noah is the sacc in this team...

[brazen ledge]

omfg

right ?

[swift mango]

Looks better

[brazen ledge]

liter doesn't die fast enough

[swift mango]

But maybe you want Rosa p3

[brazen ledge]

she doesn't give burst gen bc she doesn't die

[swift mango]

You maybe want to use attacker like Alice instead.

Or element weak like Emi.

[brazen ledge]

id sac emi ?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[brazen ledge]

i could try with alice

[swift mango]

Your account, you know best.

Just look at a fight you should know who would die. And who not.

[brazen ledge]

laplace gives me just enough cp to get to 535.8k cp

i think thats my best option

ill try for reset

[swift mango]

Emi+SBS+Rosa+Lap+Noah

[brazen ledge]

Do I have to use a special cube for lap or I can cp pad ?

[swift mango]

Use whatever you want. Only quantum could make a difference here.

[brazen ledge]

Ok

i paid 100 gems to try and i won

[swift mango]

[brazen ledge]

i wanted to !!!!

[swift mango]

[brazen ledge]

Got me to challenger 3

Top 2 and 1 are just whaling too much, I’m f2p

[unique mountain]

Congrats on blue role blood

[quasi prism]

Blue

[shell hazel]

3 is just as good as 1/2 as well tbf

f2p who can stay at 3 is better

[brazen ledge]

oh i wont stay at 3 lmfao

i can get there, ill try to say there for last day but thats it

[shell hazel]

time in rank matters I think but yeah, ok, some people steal it back 😄

top 10 is still good anyway if you can defend there somewhere

2400 gems at 7-10

[brazen ledge]

all of them are whales

i think im one of the last f2p in my server

[shell hazel]

maybe the reshuffle we get soon will help you

[brazen ledge]

rly that'll be a thing ?

not for the achievements though right ?

[shell hazel]

there are reshuffles sometimes though I've not been in one yet

so don't know how good or bad they are personally

[leaden canyon]

Ok I cannot figure out how to beat this, the cindy team always wins on round 1 but no matter what I cant win the other two rounds

[tropic summit]

looks like you overcommited to T1, inevitably leaving with leftovers t2 and t3

[tropic summit]

t3 is weak to p1 defender + biscuit against strong B3, t2 can be scar-jack indomed (you'll kill emi and get RH to shoot p1 on indom scarlet)

i'd say leave T1 so you can focus on T2 and T3

[leaden canyon]

the sg team kills my postion 5 and 4 because they focus them when they are in a defense team

I have tried so many different teams I just cant

[tropic summit]

because you not using the perfect counter to SG teams, defenders and biscuit

[leaden canyon]

I have tried that

[tropic summit]

with what team?

[leaden canyon]

moran biscuit S.anis xmaiden rumani

[tropic summit]

did you survive bsoda burst?

[leaden canyon]

yes

[tropic summit]

ok then it's winnable

[leaden canyon]

is that sg team against scarlet?

[tropic summit]

i'm thinking this

it depends although at your sync level on enemy CS% investiment aswell

especially that T2 team

we might want to ensure scarlet is 2RL afterall

[upper grove]

what kind of team can we cook with my box

[tropic summit]

something like this might be even safer

try these teams and record the match, let's see if they hiding something in their OL's

ensure CP is not in deficit ofc

[clear depot]

Can anyone help me to change my defence in SP Arena with those nikkes?

[tropic summit]

viper and laplace treasured?
rosanna skill lvl and OL's?

[tropic summit]

this is your most recent box?

[upper grove]

yep

[tropic summit]

will take a look at it after done with Franc

[upper grove]

sure take your time, appreciate it

[clear depot]

Both treasured, yes (Viper fase 2)/ Rosanna with OLs lvl 0 and skills 6-5-8 at the moment

[leaden canyon]

round 2 and 3 won

[tropic summit]

curious on T3 lemme watch

[leaden canyon]

Now I just need to change my defence lol

[tropic summit]

T2 didn't even make it to indom

yeah T3... sadly bsoda too weak

once you survive her it's free estate

gg although interesting cook on opponent side 🤔

[leaden canyon]

He always uses sg

and I'm pretty sure his rosanna team has 17% charge speed

[tropic summit]

rule n1 when dealing with SGS: biscuit or scarlet

[tropic summit]

yeah that T1 is a bit nasty, would use so many resources to deal with them i figured it wasn't worth it

also many variables and rosanna is sort of a wild card

[leaden canyon]

I never thought to use crown there for the sg team

[tropic summit]

last question and i should've everything, how's your s.anis in terms of skills and OL's?

[tropic summit]

that's the thing with quick teams but weak B3, you can actually take it slow

the moment the B3 doesn't wipe you or kill important unit, you can recover

[leaden canyon]

Well thanks! hopefully my defense holds up

[clear depot]

to S.Anis i have a bit built OLs, with 3 attack and 3 element rolls / and Skills 10-9-10

[tropic summit]

seems good enough

[clear depot]

probably low rolls tho, since she is almost behind the second line, Everything till Noise is built decently good, the other nikkes after Noise are like an 80% built in my opinion

[tropic summit]

that is true, but a very well built nikke who's not PvP meta might be more of an hindrance than a good PvP nikke on a weaker build

[clear depot]

I am trying to be something in between PvP and Solo Raid, but as a low spender thats very hard to accomplish

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit i hate pvp i hate pvp i hate pvp i hate pvp
Screw this bracket

Bastards started using gems for tries

[brazen ledge]

[tropic summit]

emilia blanc rh alice jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis laplace+
centi viper cind sbs noise

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, biscuit, rapu, noise
resil on s.anis
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest available lvl cube

build/wishlist: rumani and helmT, see attached screen for suggested build on T3 once those are obtained

[fathom rock]

How can you whale for sync and gear and dupes and still need to pay gems for tries like cmon

[tropic summit]

those ppl don't need the gems, just ego

[tropic summit]

solution: wait till end of month with reshuffle, aim for ch7-ch10

[fathom rock]

Im still going for 2.4k

[tropic summit]

yeah understandable, especially as a fellow f2p (not even low spender)

[fathom rock]

I newd more def comps ive cycled through more but its not enough

And taya hit 1.8m cp on def

[clear depot]

Thank you very much! I appreciate the effort for cooking a current and a future defence team

[fathom rock]

I think its about time i ol rapunzel

[tropic summit]

@clear depot lemme correct T1 actually, alice might steal jackal link because emi is lower atk% than RH and Alice, let's do this instead:

(doubles as anti jackal)

[clear depot]

I have Rumani already Waiting to be built, and i am waiting the solo raid to get mats and get Helm treasure with a bit of luck from RNG xD
Again, thank you!

[tropic summit]

yep you're quite welcome, just change alice from T1 because i think she'd steal link from emi and kinda weaken the team, with rosanna you add pressure on enemy from running jackal themselves

[tropic summit]

can't go wrong with that one

rapu is good everywhere, especially with CA coming 🤔

[tropic summit]

think we came up with more than 5-6 def comps in total?

it's demotivating knowing that you'll just get CP padded either way

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

had 5-6 def comps against that mf since helm but only burning his 1st attempt so i stop rearranging my def

[fathom rock]

I should just spend 13h a day on that pvp screen swapping comps so that they cant hit me

[eager mountain]

thats enough to scare most from attacking u if u gonna strike back immediately

[brazen ledge]

If you rly want, I think it’s possible to macro that

But i dont think it’s really allowed

[fathom rock]

No macro

[brazen ledge]

Lmfao

Saying no macro in this game is a joke

[tropic summit]

it's all fun and games until you get caught and bayonara to your months if not years of progress, not worth

[brazen ledge]

I will never use a macro, but they are a part of the game for a lot of ppl

[fathom rock]

I dont have a doll for rapu
Well solo raid is in like 30h

[upper grove]

SR and doll boxes don't want to drop my missing 2-4 RL dolls for me

not even getting blues for R15

[tropic summit]

time to stock up soon

also new story chapter soon iirc?

finally time to open le boxes

[fathom rock]

This month

[upper grove]

probably with EVA patch or the patch after at the latest

hopefully my bracket is still stuck at MC and behemoth so I can open boxes and get further ahead

[fathom rock]

I had a dude in my bracket still in ch21 NORMAL

[tropic summit]

bro playing in reverse, only playing stages when cp deficit is above +15%

[upper grove]

what how

[fathom rock]

You mean 1500%?

[fathom rock]

Lazy

[upper grove]

that guy can literally auto so much 🧱

[tropic summit]

probably clears a stage when bumping into the table

[jagged sedge]

Can Rossana dispel Noah's shield?

[shell hazel]

anyone able to cook up basic sp-arena teams for my friend? I dunno how to cook em for him 😄

he's heavily invested in the first ones not so much the later ones

[glad meteor]

Rapi second line

[shell hazel]

both rapis second line lol

he's a big Rapi fan

[glad meteor]

Doubtful,takes long to trigger and there’s enough buffs prehand to dispel usually

[shell hazel]

he had some others but basically totally uninvested

[jagged sedge]

Ture shes burst 1. I suppose I could try with Cindi

[keen vapor]

No

[umbral belfry]

2 gems

[glad meteor]

The dispel triggers at 1-1.5 RL ish

[jagged sedge]

oooh

[shell hazel]

he spends all his gems the instant he gets em 😄

[glad meteor]

Noise and noah

[shell hazel]

yeah he has em but not in synchro and presumably no investment on anything

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

scarlet so down low scares me tho

@keen vapor do you see what i see?!

[shell hazel]

yeah I think I can persuade him in some units to invest into for superior teams 😄

[shell hazel]

he is a big counters fan and rapi fan 😄

[tropic summit]

@swift mango imagine having noah and not using her, when someone can't even find her

[shell hazel]

I guess teams for now and ideal investment for later teams so he has some direction on what to do? 🙂

he did ask me why my normal scarlet was above my SBS 😄

his Alice is pretty cracked btw 65k cp and the rolls look fairly decent, higher than my RH and he is 25 levels below me

[tropic summit]

hmm oki, i'm gonna give him some starter teams and what to aim to

[shell hazel]

perfect thanks Railtracer 🙂

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[upper grove]

someone who kept hitting me a while ago is now on my friendlist and since then he never hit me again

[shell hazel]

maybe he was just hitting you until you added to friends 😄

[upper grove]

not even hitting me in rookie and my team in rookie is like whatever, easy points

[umbral crown]

Friendship powa

[upper grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-kono-power-kono-powa-jotaro-part4-gif-21152514

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
anis biscuit cind bsoda rouge
sbs liter grave rrh alice

wishlist/build:

-get noise and noah in synchro, build asap
-remove rapi and neon, can keep anis
-wishlist rapunzel, xmaiden, rumani longer term investiment getting helm treasured

upgrade T3 asap from CP padded to actual proper team, focus on T1 and T2 until then (rumani can replace anis if found)

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

thanks Railtracer I've passed everything along 🙂

guessing he's a bit stuck on wishlist xmaiden though

that is xmas limited

[tropic summit]

yup, long term, he can keep using bsoda or noir as sg clip burst gen, just overall worse due to feeding

either that or consider building la+, but that's expensive

[shell hazel]

yeah he's miles off I think, I'm starting to work on helm more soon myself

[umbral crown]

Ola

[tropic summit]

yup, tell him he doesn't need to be in a hurry anyway, sg will do until then

[umbral crown]

🌊

[shell hazel]

I'm going to OL biscuit once more to pad my team 3 a bit more then setting to work on OL helm next

he's not in discord so I just have to pass his thanks along remotely 😄

don't think he has centi guessing he should wishlist her?

[tropic summit]

yup 100%, she's in the table too

(long term but if found sooner absolutely use her)

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-cute-tap-table-gif-16976211

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

@polar echo

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dahliabunni-angel-beats-gif-22681248

[umbral crown]

Angel Beast god tier

[shell hazel]

yep great show

good opening as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eksw56g-WBY

[umbral crown]

Since no action in sp, would be nice to watch it again

[umbral crown]

@rich quail

When Nikke x Angel Beast?

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

They have waifus with guns

[glad meteor]

Beast or beats

[umbral crown]

Both

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I started watching the new Grisaia anime, phantom trigger

[umbral crown]

I have not .. yet

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uJ2y5G2VRk

only 1 ep in but liking it so far

[umbral crown]

Im in

the only boi in my bracket does not answer my pins uwu

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

[placid breach]

rumani burst gen vs helm+ which is better?

[glad meteor]

Helm

Also since it’s an instant shot, it’s faster

[dim escarp]

by far

[placid breach]

ty

Tia also use for burst gen?

[eager mountain]

nope

[rustic sandal]

@tropic summit Def is Good now ! thanks again

should i 2-1-2 all the PVP comp guys ? 😭

[eager mountain]

pvp round almost always only have 1 burst roatation

[placid breach]

what she use for in pvp?

[eager mountain]

shes not a battery, not a burst since her pre-burst delays fullburst, so rarely any application in pvp now unless u dont have anything else, she does taunt a bit but lol

[placid breach]

oh okay so any other unit would better than her

[eager mountain]

rare senario using tia in pvp would be, in rookie to delay burst intentionally using noah against emilia when ur team is 0.5 rl later, and u want extra dmg multiplier at the same time

[eager mountain]

pretty much any pvp relevant units

[placid breach]

ohh i see

[rustic sandal]

is CP matter in PVP, like i have some meta chars but their CP is pretty low n has no investment except lvl4 all the skills

[eager mountain]

so yeah this is too specific, and there are too many solutions to emilia instead of using tia

[eager mountain]

cp is a matter, but deficit penalty doesnt hit until 15.4% (ofc raw stat diff still a thing)

[eager mountain]

dont focus much on pvp yet if ur not (almost) done with normal campaign yet, but read this:
https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1153017654332883055
pvp is a completely diff mode, most pve metas arent pvp meta and vice versa

[placid breach]

i wish rerun emilia so i get her as pvp unit lol

instead we get eva again

[unkempt kestrel]

Is rapunzel good outside of PvP?

Seems like just a healer

[graceful grotto]

she was decent for awhile but she lost her relevancy

[grizzled bone]

early game pvp yes, with some use to mid-game for a growing account. Good healer and revive if bursting

commonly found in stall teams

[grizzled bone]

cuz EVA greedy

[silver siren]

Any master can comment on this sp arena def? Is this usable?

[glad meteor]

• Maybe switch rumani and noah position
• Looks fine
• scar jack bait, and need phase 3 helm to pose a threat, I think.

[swift mango]

Imagine not having Emi

[worthy knoll]

Nero team, Nero should be P1 if you want to use her to her full potential, else the taunt will focus on Moran instead of Nero which you wouldn't want coz aside from losing Nero S2 not being used much, Nero has the most damage reduction, you want her getting more of the aggro. Not to mention Attract taunt is buggy on defender side, so most natks will focus on P1 regardless the one there is attract taunting or not.

[silver siren]

So i put Nero on p1 and moran at p2?

[worthy knoll]

And as for useable, that Nero team is heavily dependent on investments so you can't half ass it. I guess I'm kinda bias on that? Or maybe not?

[worthy knoll]

Ideally yes

[worthy knoll]

Well best way to test if its good enough is to throw that team on rookie against a Scar team that is at 2-3RL in speed with both sides not on penalty; and see if you can survive

[silver siren]

Thanks for the input, will try once i get helm on phase 3

[leaden canyon]

He changed to this which is 3RL, last time I could survive the B.soda burst but if I get by cindy burst then RIP

do I just do noah biscuit s.anis rapu noise

[quick lake]

Could do Blanc Emilia RH to circumvent Noah

Unbuffed SAnis against Noise buff opponents is tough fight. Hard to kill

[leaden canyon]

occupied

that rounds win for me

maybe noah emilia hood

but then sg will kill my p4 and 5

[quick lake]

Can try
Noah SAnis RH flex flex 3RL

[leaden canyon]

noah s.anis rapu biscuit anis maybe

anis drops me to 92k and hes at 98

[quick lake]

Within CP range

[crystal flicker]

I thought Dair just like other whale with sync 600+

[swift mango]

How many built Shotgun do you have? LapT?

Burst gen doesn't matter, just kill Noise with Normal attack and you win.

[leaden canyon]

yeah I have lapT

my most built sg units would be my drake and noir

soda is like 177k cp

[swift mango]

More built than ASS and Naga?

[leaden canyon]

my s.anis is built

naga is fine

S.anis 199kcp and naga 190k

[swift mango]

How many Ele line Soda have?

And LapT Ele?

[leaden canyon]

lap 45.71

soda 22.15

[swift mango]

Do do you have Pepper or Zwei built?

[leaden canyon]

nope

I dont even own zwei

[crystal flicker]

Ele important for pvp?

[swift mango]

Important to kill Noise before they burst

And CP pad

[crystal flicker]

[crystal flicker]

bring more dps maybe?

[leaden canyon]

everything there is overloaded

[swift mango]

So we could do it like this

B.Soda+Rapu+Noir+LapT+Noah

Check CP

[leaden canyon]

100k

so 20k more than his team

[swift mango]

2.5 RL even. Doesn't need CS.

But maybe go Vigor or Tempering on Noah instead

Doesn't need 2.5rl..

[leaden canyon]

I got level 14 resilience on them for cp pad

[swift mango]

Noah should have Tempering or Vigor for survival.

[leaden canyon]

also gives 16.96% ele

yeah noah is the only one who has tempering and rapu has vigor

[swift mango]

Only B Soda, Rapu and LapT need Ele in this match.

[swift mango]

Does Rapu or Noah have any Charge speed?

[leaden canyon]

not 17% worth if thats what you're asking

[swift mango]

Doesn't need 17%

[leaden canyon]

noah has 5.80% and thats it

[swift mango]

It should be fine.

[leaden canyon]

apparently my rapu liked rolling max ammo lol

oh rapu has 4.92%

[swift mango]

Yeah... Go

[leaden canyon]

will have to save this for a snipe because this is my last attack

and my current defense doesn't work

[swift mango]

Okay

[leaden canyon]

I'll let you know how it goes though

idk if you want to take a crack at it but this is my current defense

[swift mango]

Could also go with this if you wanted more dmg.

20% more dmg from Rapu healing Crown.

[leaden canyon]

oh for the attack team? sure I can try it

[swift mango]

Yeah you def team suffering the same fate your opponent DEF team.

SG Noise and Emi team easy target.

You guys copying each others?

[leaden canyon]

nah he copies from me lmao

the sg thing as all his idea though

he always uses sg

I rarely ever use sg in defense

I doubt it would throw him off though considering he uses it all the time

[swift mango]

I mean P1 Noise can be SG down. You 2's teams are the same in that regard.

[leaden canyon]

biscuit protecting blanc

but yeah noise dies

noah rapu then

[swift mango]

Doesn't matter, Emi DEF team is very easy to beat.

No one in my bracket is afraid of Emi def now. They all learned how to counter it after the first 4 months being with me.

[leaden canyon]

not sure what else to do for it

I didn't think about noise dying on the cindy team, so its noah rapu now, that should be fine

[coarse lake]

noise rapu means you're now no longer running 2rl cindy

[coarse lake]

eh sure if you want, but now unbuffed cindy

[leaden canyon]

should be enough still shouldn't it

[coarse lake]

also that emi team is extremely weak, do not add SG

[leaden canyon]

I think I tried tia instead of noir before

[coarse lake]

use rumani

[swift mango]

Doesn't matter SG or not. Emi DEF is just weak.

[leaden canyon]

or sorry I meant rumani

not tia

[coarse lake]

emi def in general is fine, emi def with sg is very not fine

[swift mango]

Fine to lose to slow team so they could 2RL your other teams.

[leaden canyon]

its still 3RL with rumani or noir so I just went with noir for more cp

thats why shes there

[coarse lake]

4rl teams aren't reliably gonna win against double buff indom emi, it's not that bad

[swift mango]

3.5-4RL Blanc team always win against Emi.

[coarse lake]

that applies to any 3rl blanc team that isn't a nuke

[final wedge]

guys?????????????? this is fr????????????????

[leaden canyon]

why is it not fine with a sg? is it because of scarlet?

[coarse lake]

yes

[final wedge]

HELM a freakin SR is > than CLIP RL?????????????

[coarse lake]

sg makes the easiest counter by far just scar nuke

[leaden canyon]

I'll use xmaiden then since its still the same RL

[coarse lake]

if rumani didn't work, xmaiden won't either

[leaden canyon]

more cp with maiden

but yeah it probably wont work

[coarse lake]

if you don't wanna use emi def, your only other decent option is bscar

and just... pray they know how to 4rl counter emi but dunno how to taunter biscuit your bscar

[leaden canyon]

so blanc sbs hood emilia biscuit?

[coarse lake]

actually would be a bit messy, speed issues

[swift mango]

It's very depend. Emi doesn't deal any DMG at all when she charge so no pressure to the enemy team before they burst

[worthy knoll]

I feel like you were.. kinda delayed with that reaction.. its like almost a month(?) now since HelmTreasure update

[coarse lake]

blanc/bscar/emi/biscuit/rumani could be something to do

[swift mango]

That's why Emi is the worst Blanc team on dedense.

[coarse lake]

but imo that's just weaker than a standard emi

[final wedge]

tbh i was just playin around the excel and try out helm treasure for add dmg....but i notice my burst gen suddenly spike for no reason....then check the burst gen table

[coarse lake]

eh idk about that, blanc sanis and blanc bscar exist, both are more easily countered than emi imo

[final wedge]

dem....this mean we can get 2 RL team with last team 2.5 RL now

[swift mango]

If you have enough CS on Emi and Rumani you could go 2.5rl ASS.

If you know your enemies have high dmg on p1 you could move Rumani there.

[leaden canyon]

if I do that it squeezes to 3RL at least

[coarse lake]

eh if you want, emi speeds are a bit inconsistent

[leaden canyon]

well, rumani makes it 4RL

damn

[worthy knoll]

Her normal atk gen is actually still lower than clip RL, heck even lower than mag SG. So she doesn't quite get much using quantum cubes. It just similar to putting Quantum to RH. What made her gen insane was the S1 fixed gauge fill

[coarse lake]

well you might have a chance even against taunter biscuit with 2 buffer bscar

so ig that's better if you trust emi doing 4 shots in 3rl

[coarse lake]

I thought quantum did work on skills like jackal and rosa?

[leaden canyon]

my emilia has 29.16 charge speed, just a bit more for 38

[swift mango]

To be frank, 0 team SG is about as good as 3 team SG for DEF.SG really disrupt how to build your ATK. Especially against weaker enemies.

[tulip quest]

Solo Raid tommorow u got Helm TREASURED guys? Me not (sad)

[leaden canyon]

I do but not the third part of the treasure

[worthy knoll]

Not sure about Jackal S1 but definitely not on Rosanna.. part of the reason Kosmiu made a higher version of the calc was to fix the quantum cube plus values. From 1.2.x to 1.3

[tulip quest]

Sky has Video she kinda outdps SBS and is close to Cindy dps too

[leaden canyon]

I'm guessing thats with the third part of the treasure?

[tulip quest]

yea I think

[coarse lake]

an emi def is not using 3 sgs, that's a very different thing

[swift mango]

Me neither

[coarse lake]

she wants me to hard pity to sr15

not that she'll be phase 3 in time anyway, so not gonna affect much

I prob won't even touch helm+ ols until she's sr15, she doesn't deserve those rocks

play hard to get, you end up hard to want

I'm at SR13 btw

[leaden canyon]

still cant figure out if I should pull for mast and anchor or just skip and throw it up to wishlist luck. It did take me over a year to get guillotine....

[coarse lake]

at the point that even if I had somehow bought 2 of those latest maint kit packs, it wouldn't be enough to max, I've already spent about that much

do not skip unless broke

[worthy knoll]

I think you should be fine

[leaden canyon]

38k gems, 67 tickets

[worthy knoll]

Already SR13

The solo raid kits should be enough

To max it

[leaden canyon]

First 10 pull

[swift mango]

I could get her to sr13 easily enough but I will just save until I could do 5 rank without super success.

[leaden canyon]

You my good luck charm

[coarse lake]

yeah that would be better on your heart

[coarse lake]

you think I should just throw everything at it until sr14 then do a guaranteed gold?

honestly I think that's the better option, I ain't hitting gold super success

SR kits will be mostly blues and purples anyway

I prob get 1 gold chance, max 2, and if they fail then I 100% won't make it

costing me a lot refreshing dispatch to get minimum 2 golds a day too

[worthy knoll]

Well... i haven't experience yet reaching SR14, I don't think you'll be unlucky enough to reach that.. right?

[coarse lake]

if I just use golds decent chance I never hit sr14 even by raid's end

I'm 2.5k away rn

even if I make up the other 500, I still need another gold after that

no chance I get enough for 30

[worthy knoll]

SR13 chances should be really high already. Well I always just use 10 golds per phase

[coarse lake]

well sr 12 was 40% chance, and I think I missed it 3 times

sr13 is 60%

[tulip quest]

That's hard luck

[swift mango]

I almost reached it once. Didn't know you could 100% gold on SR.

[coarse lake]

I have 16% chance to miss my next 2 60%s, so it's basically guaranteed to miss

[tulip quest]

depends man what u prioritize Solo or C.A?

[swift mango]

That changed lots of things.

[swift mango]

I guess it's XCOM experience.

[tender valve]

I LOVE PvP

[coarse lake]

my doll luck is cursed ever since I went optimal route

used to just always throw everything at it, always worked out

as soon as I start doing optimal, now rapipi is sitting at SR12 and helm at SR13

not to mention helm took me over 200 blues just to get to R15

[swift mango]

My doll upgrade is cursed ever since I started upgrade R dolls too.

[swift mango]

That's an amateur among. Try 300 blue and 80 purple.

Average for blue to get to R15 is 190 already

[coarse lake]

R15 never took me that long, bc I would just use purples early and even just gold on R10 to get it over with

just blues is asking for trouble

if my next unit is also cursed, for the one after that I'm going back to my unga bunga roots

I think this is the first time I've ever gotten to SR13, definitely will be the first time SR14

and this is the so-called optimal strat

[graceful grotto]

ultimately all rng hahaha

[swift mango]

Save to 2250 blue to SR15. No RNG involved.

[coarse lake]

it's all rng sure, but if the bad rng only happens when statistically I should be having the best rng, then it's still bad

I lost iirc 11/13 of my 50/50s on genshin, and my best artifact set by far there, is often worse than someone else's 3rd best artifact set in terms of crit value

you can't just tell me to keep going and expect the rng to even out, bc in my experience it can simply decide to never even out

for every piece of trash that wins almost every 50/50 there's another that loses almost every 50/50

[swift mango]

There is someone I saw who lost every 50/50 but always get a SSR/5* in 20 pulls.

Are they unlucky?

[coarse lake]

no

but I almost never got earlies

it's pity or bust

statistically, a single player's account is also nowhere near the sample size needed for rng to even out

so if a statistically superior option like only blues from R10 to R15 consistently does poorly, at that point you're better off using just a single gold to guarantee it

the avg case of all blues is better than the avg case of single gold, but the bad cases of all blues is worse

that's just the most clear cut example in terms of dolls

which worst case situation is worse

which is why I'm considering raw dogging to sr14 then guarantee gold to sr15

rather than risk all my golds and have a solid chance of never even hitting sr14

despite the second being statistically better in the very long run

[leaden canyon]

Well I already pulled her

I also split between pve and pvp

[tropic summit]

Awesome, saw you were back in ch4, next step taking down ch2 once you invested

[tropic summit]

Daily pain

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-gif-21470334

[tropic summit]

Yeah you gonna need to turn it 3RL, as long as you absorb Cindy nuke with noah it will likely play the same, care for 2SGs, here you could consider scar-jack as well, if noise dies they can't burst

[leaden canyon]

ended up with this

going for noise kill

Blood helped me out

going to see if it works when I snipe

[quick lake]

Dont even need to burst imo. Can do Moran P5 to protect from SG. Then just run SG/Laplace/xMaiden

[leaden canyon]

crown is just there to give 20% damage from being healed

should be able to kill the noise

[tulip quest]

Oh must pull if you split prio then for SBS

[quick lake]

Smart. I forgot bout crown

[leaden canyon]

was bloods idea

[strange quail]

How can I beat this team without Noah ?

[swift mango]

Any 2RL team with protection b2. Or Rossanna.

[strange quail]

Hmm

I was trying to 2RL the first team, not sure if there are enough to make another 2RL

Don't mind my team on the T3, it is not set in stone yet, I am trying to figure it out

Not enough to make a deficit at T3

[quick lake]

No jackal?

[strange quail]

I have her

My full roster here

[quick lake]

T1: Blanc Emilia RH Biscuit ClipSG
T3: 2RL Cindy probably

If u dont get wiped by scarlet’s nuke

2RL with a Bay inside and no CP deficit

[strange quail]

ClipSG can be replaced with Drake / Noir + 3 quantum no ?

[quick lake]

Yep, any clip SG would do

[strange quail]

is Drake/Noir clip sg ?

[cedar orbit]

Are you guys making 2 RL full shotgun team?

[quick lake]

Yes

[quick lake]

SGs alone cant reach 2RL

[strange quail]

My Bay is uninvested so I will try with my 2RL cindy above

[graceful grotto]

i wanna see a full SG pvp team

Pepper Viper Bsoda Noir Drake

[strange quail]

Ah, I forgot Noise is Scarlet soft counter

[quick lake]

Something like this

Assuming cp deficit works out

[strange quail]

Will this okay too

[quick lake]

Oh yes, thats better

Essentially 2RL Noise + Cindy that scar, then u can match 3RL Blanc Emilia RH

[strange quail]

Well I got unlucky

[tender valve]

like this or ?

[strange quail]

T1 lost due to Noah getting Biscuit double buff

T3 won

[quick lake]

Ah, my mistake. Couldnt use jackal, cause SAnis feed will cause u to bursr faster than 3RL

[strange quail]

No worry I will use gems

[quick lake]

[strange quail]

Oh nvm, my first team didn't use jackal at all

[strange quail]

I did exactly like this

[quick lake]

Oh damn. Means opponent’s invuln time too long

[strange quail]

Yeah I think my 4 7 7 Emi can't kill their Biscuit in 1 shot

Time to burn more skill books I guess

[quick lake]

Can just try regular scarlet
Scar Blanc RH flex Jackal againsr opponent’s SAnis team.
At least 2.5RL

[strange quail]

I guess Rapunzel to the flex so Scar is guaranteed survival

Yeah it worked, thank you

If you need video I can record

My Cindy died but her burst still go off lul

[coarse lake]

that's not reliable

if you didn't crit rapu you could have lost that

[strange quail]

I am not quite understand

[coarse lake]

hmm.... although rapu did make you just slow enough that their noise still bursted.... so they couldn't have revived

well as long as it keeps working don't worry about it

[quick lake]

He’s saying if noise and SAnis died,
opponent Rapun could revive Sanis and still burst

[coarse lake]

hmm cindy situation is interesting, does cindy burst snapshot even when she's dead...

[quick lake]

I still think the 3rd team 2x 2RL teams are funnier

I think luckily both truly bursted at same time (no cs shenanigans)

[coarse lake]

jackal and them dying from it makes it hard to tell

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/akane-kurokawa-kurokawa-akane-oshi-no-ko-oshi-no-ko-season-2-oshi-no-ko-meme-gif-15386582776387491687

[quick lake]

So both scar and Cindy entered B3 at the same time and snapshotted immediately

[tender valve]

btw welcome to C.A

[swift mango]

Treasure Sugar will have HelmT burst Gen. Trust!

[swift mango]

That makes sense since she did hit Bay's 0-hp cover 9 times.

[coarse lake]

Need ppl to test

Pretty sure I've seen Cindy die mid burst, but Cindy team might have just all died then, so snapshot wouldn't matter

If someone has vids of Cindy dying mid burst that would be great, best if the some of cindy team stay alive a bit longer than cindy

[swift mango]

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[thin rune]

Trying to move around nikke, as my rooster keep updating, this is what i've been using right now, need suggestion who to move between cinderella and scarlet team and who to put on 3rd team other than filler team perhaps. Gonna send full rooster next

[upper grove]

No Noah?

[thin rune]

Yeah sadly no, been waiting for her for too long 😩

[upper grove]

team 3 is scar jack food, team 1 is scar burst surviving into win, team 2 is matching rl with noah or skip imo

if very high invested SR and SG you could try to oneshot rapunzel

[quick lake]

🐓

[onyx scaffold]

are we getting 4 cs on every sniper/rl?

[upper grove]

I'm an idiot, you need DEF team?

[quick lake]

Can try this. 3rd team auto

[thin rune]

Yeah thats what i tried to understand from ur reply XD, i need my attack team

[quick lake]

If u wanna compete in CA ig

[thin rune]

The 3 formation team i posted is my team rn in SP arena

[upper grove]

you only need 2 attack teams and it depends on their defense tbh

rheax could you cook my def team as well? rail forgot about me and it was broken by same guy again

[quick lake]

sure! can send ur roster

[thin rune]

ah well gotta read more about countering this and that i guess, thats what i heard about pvp in nikke, thanks for the reply

[thin rune]

gotta give it a shot for this one

[quick lake]

Generally we want 2 buffers for Scarlet Nuke teams. Cindy works with or without Noise (ofc with Noise its better, but at lower syncs its fine without)

[upper grove]

main team archetypes are scar jackal, some kind of cindy nuke team, noah biscuit, stall teams

[thin rune]

i see a lot of noah biscuit stall team using anis summer for the b3, any alternative for her?

[quick lake]

SBS works as well

[upper grove]

few notes:
OL is up to xlud, after helm I'm OL more pvp units
Rail built this for me last time, he noted that team 2 is kinda the weak point rn. I'm planning to use treasure helm instead of Alice for 2 RL cindy nuke. this was unbeaten for more than a month, I assume I was cp gapped once, because I can still CP gap everyone with 1 team (avg team str is like ~250-280k while campaign teams are 350k+ in my bracket).
I might have to just OL more units, no sanis or emilia to worry about

[quick lake]

Laplace treasured?

[upper grove]

helm no treasure yet

[quick lake]

Grave or Mari burst skill leveled yet?

[upper grove]

only 4/4/4 at most on every unit after xlud, spending mats on RH and helm atm

[quick lake]

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22405513

[quick lake]

Probably this, 3rd team auto

[upper grove]

auto gave me this:

[quick lake]

wow definitely can

Opponent needs 320k to not have penalty

[upper grove]

team cp old: scar jack 253k, biscuit noah sbs 261k, cindy nuke 272k -> total 787k
team cp new: scar jack 246k, cindy noah 249k, cp team 388k -> 885k total

100k more damn

[quick lake]

Can do this instead

Tempering on Noah, Quantum on Centi and Rumani

If CP team cant be cracked, then running a 2RL somewhere else means impossible to crack I hope

[upper grove]

I assume so yeah, because their cp team will also be a bad pvp team as well

once I have treasure helm for more cp and burst regen it will be easier to cook

[quick lake]

Yeah. Likely it will be 2.5RL scarjack Helm
2RL Cindy
CP team

[upper grove]

I already tried team 2, scar not linked SR5 on her, RH SR10. cindy team 213k cp

[quick lake]

Swap laplace and xmaiden

[upper grove]

team cp old: scar jack 253k, biscuit noah sbs 261k, cindy nuke 272k -> total 787k
team cp new: scar jack 246k, cindy noah 249k, cp team 388k -> 885k total
new cindy team: 249k, scar jack 253k, cp team same as above 388k -> 891k

[covert lintel]

isn't this just benefit the opponent?
iirc rumani has taunt, and opponent RL will get a boost because cindy is beside rumani

[quick lake]

Rumani taunt only happens during full burst

[upper grove]

rumani only taunts during full burst

[covert lintel]

[quick lake]

Looks good

Hopefully defence holds up

[upper grove]

I use the higher cp defense team then

appreciate your help

the cp pad team of liter crown etc: should I re arrange the order?

[quick lake]

Ya, can put SR15 B3 P1 P2, then Crown Liter flex

[upper grove]

only have cube lvl 4 atm: laplace quantum for 2.5 RL worth? otherwise it's 3RL with only centi rumani on quantum

[quick lake]

Can gv cube to Noah Centi Rumani

[upper grove]

skipping tempering is fine?

[quick lake]

yeah. should be fine

[upper grove]

will get quantum to 7 after resi and bastion to 10 or maybe just helm for 2RL

[quick lake]

No rush ba

[upper grove]

after OL jackal xmaid and noah I can get batteries and Noise up

the cp pad is real

[tender valve]

keep Waiting help for the Champion Arena too @quick lake 🍻

https://tenor.com/view/friends-gif-21470334

[quick lake]

Might be live unit banning

Ban jackal

[tropic summit]

oh sounds doable, noise p1 as single b1 can be exploited by early SG dmg, might work.

I'd have taken the safer approach with 3RL noah + B3 (SBS or s.anis), but this one is interesting, give it a shot 🤔

[vapid lake]

Nikke players dont read 🫵

[tropic summit]

I can confirm

[quasi prism]

I remember when I got stuck in one of the main story maps

Because the elevator wasn't above ground and didn't know what to do

Took me a week to find out there was a reset map button that was tiny as hell

[lunar dirge]

No

[rich quail]

Is this good for Nero?

[lunar dirge]

Lucksack

[rich quail]

Basically, should I lock line 1 and 3, and try to get a good line 2

That’s the only good gear

[lunar dirge]

Only for cp pad ig

Any line

[rich quail]

The other 3 are bad

One is max ammo line 1

One is cs and atk

one is crit rate and crit dmg

[quartz prawn]

Yo let me join ur bracket wtf

[limber rampart]

I win scarlet in normal banner recently
Can u cook me 3 new formation for pvp? @tropic summit my last lineup was defeated easily

[upper grove]

is your bracket that bad? post it

[quartz prawn]

theres another whale close to 100k below

[upper grove]

guess global is less whaley

[quartz prawn]

in be4 a bunch of whales show up in ur reshuffle

[upper grove]

had 2 whales last shuffle, I'm also spending but not whaling as much as they did

[quartz prawn]

yeah i have to settle with top 6
im behind at least 40 sync lvls. at least my wallet is safe

[tulip quest]

PEACEFUL

Hopefully it stays on Reshuffle lol meeting my 100+MORE synchro friend on Shuffle kinda is scary lel

[lunar dirge]

Rookie numbers

[tulip quest]

He is 576

I mean we're at like 400+ Synch just meant he is 100+ More levels than us

[lunar dirge]

How about

367 me vs 681

[tulip quest]

LOL

Just know that my friend Started NIKKE 6months late

I dunno who is more Whaley at that point

[lunar dirge]

And he started a bit earlier than me

Like

1 week

Last xmas

[tulip quest]

ALL I can say man is RIP 681 Kinda INSANE

[lunar dirge]

Oops, I mean the Neverland event

[upper grove]

he's paying for multiple SU employees

[tulip quest]

XD