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Oh, I thought you went scarlet 
Yeah can't watch it 
Their indom is later than scalter indom, and not enough damage
....ah, I mean you use SBS
You lose the slower Blanc fight
**Scarlet there @nocturne arrow , not SBS, my bad, I should have meant that clearly
Never try Blanc vs Blanc with a faster team
i win now lol, just swap SBS with cindy
Yeah
oh yeah that works too
Yeah, he lost because his Blanc team was faster
want me to try JOEY ?
Cindy op 
Welcome to 3rd place
You could post his teams here
If you want to piss them off, sure, you may get an error saying their position changed if they hit me first
so in the 1st place, there isnt anyone here?
People on the same bracket 
you will not win T2, CP deficit too high - needs to be 395k or tehreabouts
But the burst gen on that team is very meh, only dangerous part is SSakuras opening AoE
im fighting them again now
the best i can do is 365
I'll see if we can cook up again, since T1 isn't that strong tbh
Dont run faster indom against slower indom
no indom for that T2
Try
Jackal+Blanc+Cindy+Centi+SBS
Check cp
wait when CA pops up and we can fight across servers perhaps
That's for T1? or T2
T2 is the problem now, no?
Swap centi with Alice
16.33%....possible, the stat penalty might hurt
Back to this team. How is the CP with you put centi or Rumani in the place of S.Anis?
If for Team 1 you swap SAnis with Centi, and are at 340k CP, easy clap
Their team is 3rl vs your 4rl here.

Ein might not have enough dmg
no liter buff should be enough
Well, Idk.. he could also shot gun Rapun
Pog
Gj 👍
wanna see the video?
Did you use Centi or Rumani instead of Ass?
Send video then
AWEEEESSOMMMMMEE
Wow you won with this team 2 😂
probably will get beaten tomorrow 
Or in 10 minutes
as long joey not here i should be fine
Oh no you're fine, they're still after me
Yeah they had zero RL so P1 Cindy doesn't matter. And feed his team to 2.5-3rl
As long as you can defend against new face, you can keep C2
Beat him again nael 
what?
why is he on first?
That's me
not true
He will gem back
They are gemming each others
More than 1000 now I bet
Probably 2k+
bruh
You guys aren't winning, that's for sure
im fine if i got 3rd lol
Congrats nael 
Yeah, no one has 300k gem as F2P like Echo.

2XXk gem 
That's the goal for next year
you could try to cook against me
You pulled Mana?
but probably not best idea
: nope nope:
dont mind me, im here just to watch the fireworks
I need to work hard for it
Alexa, play the Benny Hill theme
Buy tokens in advance at this point
Why not 301?
8000 core away
........you know what, let's see
Man that 2000 gems could have brought you 8000 cores...

2000 gems for 8000 core (hmmmmmm)
That's if you 50 gem claim everyday and exchange those lmd + Data to core.
That's not the point
the firework tonight sure is pricey
This is additional
That is only the default amount for competitive players
we should ask joey to join the discord lol
if only right 
you've prepared for war 
Ones already used
joey about to get tag teamed 
so you guy changing the formation or just brute force it?
Occasionally Joey will change def teams around, so that I accidentally hit their CP Gap team instead
Otherwise they just CP gap me with 2 super strong teams, I'm very sure of that
Plpt twist Joey is here watching
tbh they probably are lurking and wont say a word
plot twist, joey is estur alter ego
plot twist: you're joey 
You think Kisenix would make a dedicated team around Noir?
Doubt chances if Joey is here u 2 are gonna peace up probably lmao
probably not... 
@nocturne arrow Cindy Alliance
joey literally goes "either first or nothing" since he can beat me quite easily lol
prettttttyy much
the bracket used to be really peaceful when it was just me and madou battling, eventually they settled for C2 and it stayed that way for just under 2 months
Wasted 4 rocks on this ... Should have focused on Anis or Jackal....
Then prior reshuffle happened, and it brought in.....who was it
i was searching max ammo for S.Anis, INTENTIONALLY
until someone said not to lol
SR Anis 
SSR is ass.
There was a meme of me that Kisenix made where I posted SAnis getting black ammo last line
and i was using her with liter
i dont read lol
What a whale
mast, cindy, ros, mana, centi = 2RL with 2 sac from single unit/mast
thats a cursed setup with lots of OLs, only older players would have those mats lying around
You sure they won't all be hitting Mana after Mast ded for the first time? 
Idk, I should have that setup ready in 1-2 months
i mean mast lvl 1 or 160
I mean if Mast ded, target skip all the way to Mana lol
They would be 2rl instead
nope, she will instantly ress and get killed again
thats why you need her on low level
i prefer my Anis is R33+1
In normal set up, they would hit p2 so Mast would surely ded. But in this team, if target skip happened it would be all the way to Mana, not Cindy.
Enemy: Noah Centi XMaiden Rumani Biscu 2 RL 
Oh wait thats 3 RL

Is it 2 RL now
Just get enough cube in
he yeh forgot bout cindy decoy, just replace her place with centi
Not even needing cube lol
mast cent ros cindi mana
Mast Centi Cindy Ros Mana
Do u know that Ros counters Ros?
how on earth is that going to work
SAC
double sac?
Yeah, lucky my bracket doesn't have Ros built
U run 2 RL sac, I run 1 RL sac
yah
lol how
I'm running 2 lv1 p2 teams. Rossanna that.

Your 2 lv 1 will die then my Rosanna kills 2 more 
You can't use Rossanna in 2 teams

NIHILISTER
@swift mango probably about 3.5k gems spent since daily reset vs Joey
Collab funding is so over 
Maybe not if you skip maid banners
could just mileage a copy of everything up to and including collab
its just two maids
(how bad could it possibly be to get ahoy + tummy)
Well, it will be a waste to mileage first on 2% banner
Yah ofc, still pull
I mileaged for 2 Rei.A last Collab to MLB her...
The start of my bad luck tread



|| @tropic summit your turn, use Anis ded||
That guy is trying different team archetypes
fixed 
How about 2.5k gems by both of us, I'm probably missing one or two not on the list
This has been since daily reset

they gave up for now, 2:30AM in Australia GMT +11
You hate to see it, imagine dealing with this while you're at work
Ego issue too strong
I probably gave them that ego tbf
Cheese is writing 
Would I be better off replacing Diesel with Noah and putting Biscuit in Noah’s place?
Diesel gaming
No
Well, not Biscuit in P1 T2, biscuit with Noah though yes
Noise Biscu SAnis RH HelmTr might be a scary alt comp back in the day.
All that gems and Joey still not even care about me lol
😭 my teams are definitely outdated, but somehow still work
If it works dont touch
Deym, S. Anis overheal
Oh yeah that used to be really good sanis comp
Until Emilia and a bunch of other burst gen supports came and Noah gen buff
been ignored in pvp for so long I forgot to put a b2 on team 1 
Tbh now Id just use Noah Biscu Emilia RH Makima
Noise would be Suitable in that scenario but put Rapu and Emilia Instead
Luckily i have 2 Attack% Black lines on S. Anis
I'm highly tempted to test this when Rookie opens on reset, only on my alt acc though
Could go Tia, Noise, Biscuit, S. Anis, Helm
Noah Biscu HelmTr RedHood Makima better.
jk
Maybe Noah Biscu 2 RL comp (not Makima).
Noah Biscu HelmTr specifically u need the snipe
Forces enemy to run B1 taunt like Moran, or do 2 RL comps
Hmm SAnis 2 RL might absolutely cook this team tho
Noah Biscu SAnis RH HelmTr variant
Hmmmm
Hmmm it's a pretty good attacking comp
Scar or Noah will kill that comp
Scarlet, Blanc, Rh, Anis Sr, Jackal
S. Anis overheal
Dunno about 3rd team for my end
Usually run Cindy/Noise
Enough for 2.5RL?
Just run 2 RL Cindy
3
I came across a Noah Cindy team that was unbeatable by Blanc Emi RH but was beatable by Noah Emi.
Nowadays aim for 2 FB comps if possible
Use HelmTr to overheal the team then use wipe in 2nd rot
I believe u can make Noah Biscu HelmTr Cindy 2 RL comp
You can but Is it any good?
Just a precaution iguess
If you put it in an opponent with S. Anis, Noah, Biscuit
Then S. Anis team will win if
Helm is the B3
Pretty sure S.Anis will lose
What Sanis comp?
You need to at least get 2 RL SAnis here btw
S.Anis lose 99% vs Cindy+Biscuit+2defender, regardless speed.
Noise, Noah, Biscuit, S. Anis, Flex either Centi, Jackal, Rapu
How can you log in once every 1 hour? 
S. Anis will win
You hope
For both*
I already sent a stall comp against a Cindy team and its winable
Not enuf speed, SAnis dies to Helm burst
But, the comp will be
Noah, Biscuit, S. Anis, Rh, Centi/Jackal
Also not enuf speed, if Helm is fed fed she will snipe whole link
yeah I mean, don't you go to work and do daily routine 
This Cindy wipe even got blocked lol.
This team but not this order 2 RL
U won cus retarget to Noise
Otherwise u would have lost
Enemy Noah must have had too much charge speed (u can see)
Too much attack% on my S. Anis
No lol enemy Noah had too much cspd and it made them lose
14.63, 14.63, 11.81, 10.40

Its not ur comp bruh
Plus my Burst time is 3s only
5:00-4:57s
Cindy pop her burst after 1 s
Costing the other whole team
Depends on the OL stat also, @unique wagon
Bro u won because enemy roster was bricked, ur comp lost that matchup but saved by enemy's brick
Sanis is in p3, taunt won’t matter. It’s just p1 needs to be linked
There. Retargeted to Noise for 2x RL burst gen by your Noah Biscu and Jackal.
It hit Noah Noise Cindy + Cindy decoy. So 7 hits.
The opponent team isn’t 2rl without feed
Instead of the normal 4.
Plus the 4 has Quantum, S. Anis only has Dif cube
Bro what are u talking about
Enemy Noah wasnt linked put in P1 lmao
That’s the point
Are they 2 RL tho if Jackal fed?
I’ll check
Think so, but Noise will be dead then Noah and 1 opponent team will get the Bounce after Noise gets down
Nah its 3 RL
Yeah u won that cus enemy 3 RL tho?
And the comp me and @swift mango discussing is 2 RL?
Jackal still hit Noah.
Would need 6/7 feed triggers 
Yeah, both Noah and Biscuit got 1.75 time gen.
Noah @ 2 RL is 24 and that comp is 81 base
After the first hit
So +9 from Noah
That's crazy
Even in a Situation where S. Anis, Noah, Biscuit vs S. Anis overheal,
S. Anis Overheal will win
4.2 from Biscu
Power of Decoy Cindy, and 4 Quantum Cube user
94.8 base
But yeah, its a pretty fast burst gen for both teams
Nah bro I think Jackal hit?
Noise need to be P1 when used with Jackal. Moral of the story.
The probs with this is
2.5 if only noah linked. If noise and noah linked I can see 2RL happening. If quantum imvolved
Your Noise would not be Bursting if they get down pretty fast
Or get attack OL on noah and fix CS
That comp has 94.8 burst gen @ 2 RL where did the 5.2 come from?
Noise linked with Jackal will always survive
That's why in a Mil cp comp, Noise is in Pos 2 if Necessary
Even at 20% deficit
Unless they had some Uber strong Sugar and LapT
But that's still needing deficit to kill
Plus Hyper invested S. Anis or changable to Cindy in the Comp
If it's in rookie arena that is
Moran is usually pretty easy to Counter with Rosanna
No buff at the start
Still ded, unless your ASS is core 7, sr15 or sth and their Cindy barely built
Rossana counter Moran? 🤔
Yes, you didn't know?
Rosanna counters Moran and Jackal
Jackal is easy but Moran?
Sniping enemy dps
Its a bit unrelated
Moran's S1 is useless
Rapi 2 RL Blanc comp when
Won't Moran counter Rosa in that case? She make the target tankier provide amsame speed team.
No, Moran would be squishy
Time to get cooked by Rosanna
Is that Nihilister? 
She has 3 times re-healing, losing some DEF stack after 1rl won't kill her lol
Yes she will be Killed @swift mango
I tried a comp wherein
The opponent has
Not before you burst
Moran, Biscuit, S. Anis, Flex, Centi
Vs
Scarlet, Blanc, Rosanna, Anis Sr, Jackal
Freaking wipes Biscuit, S. Anis, the flex that time was Noir
Moran gets biscuit defender buff
Rest of the one who'd do the damage gets killed
Bro you are saying things that are correct for the wrong reasons
Plus Rosanna is effective vs Jackal comp
Wow dedication 
The point is, she will not be getting her S1 up cuz Rosanna counters that
Change Rosanna to RH and ud still win lmao
Did more to my Mast, but not using her now.
Your argument is correct for the wrong reasons
I thought you were trying to be smart by removing Moran's Immunity prematurely
But then I realized its a Scar comp anyways
The reason I use Moran is because she could survive until she burst. Not stacking DEF lol
Jackal:
Activates when entering battle. Affects self and 2 ally unit(s) with the highest ATK.
Shares damage taken for 120 sec.
DEF ▲ 8.27% for 120 sec.
This gets dispelled easily by
Why r u mansplaining us?
Rosanna:
Activates after landing 10 normal attack(s). Affects 2 enemy units with the highest ATK.
Dispels 5 buffs. Activates 1 time per battle.
We are not stupid
@swift mango was flabbergasted that Rosanna counters both Jackal and Moran easily
Lol no he is not
I wasn't flabbergasted.
Moran:
Activates at the start of the battle. Affects self.
DEF ▲ 3.51% with every 1% of HP loss.
You won that fakin match up cus ure using Scar against SAnis
I CAN LITERALLY USE SCAR BLANC RH/XMICA and still win
Not against a well built Laplace on the other team
THERE WAS NO LAPLACE IN UR EXAMPLE
And no
Just slap Tempering and shed still survive
Aim for 2 RL wipe
Yeah, I guess she would counter that one rare Pokemon Moran solo whole team scenario... But most the time it doesn't matter. Her main skill is her s2+3
Not just the 2 units mentioned, all pvp Nikke that has a buff at the "start" Of the battle
Mansplaining again
Moran really fall off cuz there are many other options
S1 makes her tankier
Without that per hp% lose she wouldn't be a tank
You have to stop your tendency to mansplain everything
There's a reason to mansplain if you don't know the typical team archetypes, team comps as such, and others that needs to be discussed.
Doesn't matter for 99% the time.
And Moran needs to be amongst your 2 Highest ATKs also.
Maybe @umbral crown Moran would be hit by it would she ever used her in 4 defender Cindy team lol... Good luck Rosy.
There's nothing wrong with that
First of all, this is not a newbie channel.
Moran in a Cindy team would be a slowburner
Second of all, there are 2 people disagreeing with you here.

Well, Idk what we are talking about at this point so Nvm me.
Here you go
Its valid of you discuss or mansplain
Third of all, you said Rosanna would dispel Moran when in reality the chance of Moran being the highest ATK is as low as you getting Rapipi from ordinary.
It has to a be a well invested moran to be part of your 2 highest cp units
And there are chances biscuit has more atk than moran
Sir, know who you are talking to. You can mansplain to a newbie. We are not.
It's ok for you to mansplain, but you are just gonna annoy and make enemies of everyone here if you do it too much.
Que :Emi:
Acabo de llegar
No se
Literally me fr

66.7% vs 83.3%
25% ATK to surpass.
Your Moran ATK isn't higher than your Cindy? 
It was a lie all along 
I mean probably whales would do that because they want Moran to divert SAnis's rays?
Wait she has taunt
I know people do that with Noise
If its a
Tia, Moran, Biscuit, S. Anis, Centi

No, there's nothing to Dispell in that Comp
Good 
Prayge Anchornpvpnkit


Sounds like b2 rl with pvp porenti
I want more Indom units
Now she indom highest DEF instead 
Best I can do is increase HP potency
Moran Anchor comp 
Sir stop
DEF line finally matters
Hey im gonna guess kit
Burst increase team atk by 20% of casters ATK
Increase HP potency by 50% for 10s
20s CD best I can do

On full charge, heal lowest ally Ig

That sounds familiar tho


What if 60s and requires partner from same squad
She would be used for that alone.
My moran has 3k more atk than cindy
They want us to do Anchor Helm comp 
But biscuit with sr12 has more atk than moran and even sanis with sr7
Yeah, she will be hit by Rossanna 100% 
No more Moran solo for you
Increase team charge speed by 90%
Only applies to water code allies

Good luck tryin to kill my moran 
Has to be a god rosanna to 1 shot her
Emilia 


Her skill 1 will be dispelled by Rossanna.
If part of the 2 highest atk
Pretty sure we'll have big defence buffers eventually 

Your synch so low 
Give me your boxes


It depends if Both S. Anis and Biscuit has Attack% in their Rolls
I'm ststuck at 1.34m because I need to use 2 lv1 
Moran has 4 atk lines max doll, sanis 3 atk lines sr7
You would win even in my bracket haha
What's your level now? 341? Or more now?
Can't relate, my S. Anis has 48.65 total Attack% in OL lines 4/4
45, 46 tomorrow
I'm at 332, don't let me catch up to you.
I was this close in spending for Naga's skin, luckily simping didn't prevail
Couldn't afford to lose my Free 2 play status
We started 3-4 months apart .
SR Naga smh
Just for Solo Raid,
I don't even upgrade some of the famous and used Treasure
Myst be Exia
You started last winter even or last anniversary?
So Jemmyliciois has Makima
🧱
Didn't like the Collab
25 of October
Still brick
I started Laplace Banner 2022
Im sure Makima is after that tho
Should be
He was Kinda first month player I think.
Yeah, but i didn't pull in that banner
Wpuld have been my level if I didnt quit for 2 weeks
Started that early and still no max core Naga. You are disgrace to Naga simps

No one cares about Naga
Free 2 play bruh
Now u have Helm as alternative in campaign
Didn't even get her in the pulls in standard
Which is better than Naga for AoE damage
Freaking Isabel Core 4 is what Im getting
Max core her during her banner or MLB at least 
I use Rapipi, Crown, Sbs, Rh, Naga
No atk buff 
Imagine Naga simp no MLB during her banner. 
Imma keep using RH Crown SBS Alice Helm/Naga/Rapipi
Rapipi only source of ATK buff is RH and Crown tho
What about RH Crown Rapipi Alice + SBS emotional support

Meh might as well use Mana in that case
Still building Rouge, then gonna go reroll Rapipi Stats
Rapipi = breaks terrain = ruins burst gen = helm saves the day
Sbs damage deminish in big cp deficit condition
But can be manage if Rh is B1

Where do you check the exactly day you started?
Every Anniversary i think
There's an event where they put all of your Achievements ingame plus when you started
Dude finally hit me... Oops.. good def against one guy is bad def against another I guess.
This bracket can't be more cursed.
I could just CP pad this new guy I guess but can't do the other 3.
pulled the trigger since small break from Sr 
Maybe I will need to change my DEF again... tomorrow.... Not have the strength for that today
@worthy knoll can you help me out again team 3 wins but 1 and 2 just die
Anniversary web events
Like the "to the stars"one
Microorganism 
I have to spread skill books a bit: is helm S1 lvl 4 or 7 a huge difference compared to 10?
Level 4 is below Centi gen and 10 is above Jackal/Anis
So
Is all or nothing
Well, anyway, we are about 4 months apart
Still, I should invest in RH before Helm I think 
RH isn't much for Arena but campaign instead
Yeah I'm at ch 18 hard with iron weakness and stormbringer
Who bursted first on T1? Your Noise or enemy Rosanna? And did Rosanna burst hit Emi Noise?
One sec let me check
@worthy knoll im not sure who burst first but emilia died before noel burst happened
But Noise was able to burst safely right?
Yes
Just replaced Anis with XMaiden
Ok
It should work
Assuming Ros hits Emi and Noise, but Noise still abel to B1
As for T2
just out of curiosity, SBS wouldn't work? or he doesn't have her built? 🤔
How much did your Makima drop your CP?
It could, but I wanna make sure that even if the attacker gets hit and died
Theres a backup B3
oh naruhodo 
yes safer approach
I'm not sure if his SBS can survive a Ros nuke
mine does but i'm lower synch and likely enemy rosanna isn't high on atk% OL's
both RH and SBS on SR15 dolls survived at least so far on those i met 
Ahh.. fudge I got an hour and 20 minutes to rush tower
run 
@worthy knoll thank you again every time

So, I should be 370
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
15 level every month. I lowered it for you from 20 levels a month they told me already.

NONSENSE
No wonder your bracket is full of whale 
Hmm you get about 2000 core dust a day from outpost. Two days are 4000. So you need 6000 from other sources to lv once every 2 days.
No impossible I guess
Once every 3 days would be more manageable
Only counting the extra tries already more than 2
Yolo crit.
Just use crown
Somehow it doesnt work
I tried using Crown I lost mysteriously
miranda treasure

Noah Biscu XMaiden LaplaceTr Miranda comp when
WAIT MIRANDA S2.
NAH BRO FOUND USE FOR MIRANDA.
normal miranda is the b1 for ssrapi against stall teams
RedHudo?
rapi yep
rh is just fine but you can't kill some units if the enemy team have noah unless you skip 2nd biscuit S2
Well, defending on which team you are placing, you might want to put Crown p2 instead
Or if you fight ScarJack you wouldn't want to use crown ofc...
Might as well use Maxwell if crown can't trigger her s2 before Emi nuke goes off
To use crown as off burst you want both her s1+2 to trigger
Maxwell and RH will 100% eat the buff.
Emi isn't that strong fighting uphill and prolong battle though.
You still want her nuke to hit... Might as well use her with Blanc.
Or try other b3.
Not enuf damage.
Blanc Biscu RH didn't work. Noah Biscu worked.
I assume cus Noah Biscu damage mattered.
And that's why Crown lost cus she no damage.
So yeah if I had LaplaceTr, I would have run Noah Biscu Emilia LaplaceTr RedHood.
This is so sad.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh
Nah im not gonna waste my hard earned gear on LaplaceTr, Rumani, and especially Viper.
Hell in fact I dont have Viper.
Can use Anis tho.
But Viper on defense is probably better cus her Burst should hit backrank.
@keen vapor what teams can i make with my roster?
am i supposed to be a higher level
Way higher,yes
i just dont know how to make a team at all
or how to level up fast
all i do is the interception every day
sometimes story
sometimes i do the simulation too
You should have finished story already 
oh i haven't
i guess i should do that first
I wonder how reachable would be top 60 
can you help me make some teams meanwhile i grind the story
alright bros Id love some advice. Assuming I have all PvP relevant characters leveled and ready to go (aside from Rosannas last ol piece because rng is poop) could you help me create three attack teams, one for countering scarlet (im guessing noah sanis?) one for countering noah/sanis, and one generally good team using the remaining characters?
Attack depends on target 
Waos, you even have Emilia, unsynched....
but some days I don't have the time to remake 3 teams, so having some general teams would be fantastic
I'd want to fix your synchro device first
ok tell me who to remove
that's where you ask us
Can some help me build a rookie arena team attack & defense whats the best i can pull off with level 168 
if you guys are fine with me being a burden often then I'll do that xD
part of my problem rigth now is that I'm stuck at C7, and everyone at C6+ has well over a 20% CP advantage on me, so creating teams to beat them is hard
and that's with built characters, full OL gear etc
I'm always a burden for the others
don't worry about that
Viper, Anchor, soda, Mary and D out as well
taking in consideration CP, your best rookie is probably this:
both on attack and defense, although on attack you could remove alice to sub in a biscuit if you're unsure noah can survive
keep in mind it will tank your CP a bit
Have you put R15 dolls on your pvp units? 
since the drip feed of doll exp is excruciating, I'm in the process but no where near done. I favored fav item diesel and laplace early on and that slowed me down
when have you been a burden, if anything watching your struggle makes mine seem like a piece of cake

post your box with nikke ordered by strength, so we can make the most general all purpose teams
as Echo said, tailoring the team against the opponent is still the most likely to give you a win
unlike general purpose teams
For defense, I want to know targets 
Tyty
laplace/diesel are, helm is in the progress. waiting on doll exp only 
what is this lobby/server? where did I land?
One of the first ones where rerollers were abundant
"Arena Group 21" 
Worth a try or nah?
im pretty sure u instantly melt at that cp deficit
Eh its the lowest cp where i landed sadge
helmT-less general purpose and against the team you'd countering:
once you hit helmT, upgrade to this all purpose:
the emi indom team will work against anything that isn't 2RL or has something that kill her pre 3RL
keep in mind a 4RL/5RL noah can catch her nuke
since the top left team shares centi with the top right team, which is the scarlet team, it feels like it would be good to replace centi in top left correct?
no, top right teams are your prefered opponents
I don't understand then, I thought the picture showed 4 'all-purpose' teams that I could use depending on general opponent layout.
ok i'll make it easier for you
you'll find possibly with very high chance a mixture of noah and scarlet teams
those 2 teams are for the general purpose of taking care of those variations
both teams are actually strong against multiple setups, as long as you get familiar with them
I see ok, so to counter scarlet jackal redhood, use noah centi cindy gotcha
yep you got that
once you get helmT, upgrade to this one:
cindy team will get a buff while keeping same speed
there's also an extra thing you can do with T2, it's either replace RH with rapunzel or replace crown with mana
it will prevent emi from being dead before 3RL
depending on what you facing, if you're unsure emi will live to 3RL, this adds survivability, at the cost of reduced dmg (when taking away RH) or barely reduce dmg (taking away crown)
@mild moat below the 2 variations of T2 if aiming for survivability
since it only costs you time to remove or add a nikke, it's probably easy enough
@tropic summit you here to help me rail them?
ok, currently I have the following 'general purpose' teams, that have been successful up to C7 with countering a majority of opponents
scarlet, blanc, red hood, anis, jackal
noah, biscuit, sanis, emilia, noise
rumani, centi, sbs, laplace (treasure), rapunzel
I'll switch to the two you mentioned :)
What would you recommend for the third team. if I can cheese a win on a 3rd team slot that would be pog
hmm let's see if there's anything left, we used up pretty much a lot of things to build 2 strong all purpose teams 🤔
it certainly doesn't need to be a huge winner, but who wouldn't love some nice cheese
looks like you dealing with this:
4rl cindy comp huh
if CP isn't a problem, you could scarlet 3rd team with usual scar blanc rh centi jackal
So am I cooking here?
I DON'T HAVE A SCARLET 
oh indom rrh
hmm only concern if s.anis is enough to kill bay with biscuit and noise in it 🤔
rrh would actually work wonders instead against bay
you could go for a 4RL s.anis instead against cindy and get rapi team to deal with their bay
lemme see how your burst gen is doing
yeah RRH team is a bit too slow..
and on the other hand you'd suffer from CP deficit
speed looks good now
RRH gonna have a fine meal on damage share hitting 5 targets 
Reslot the sanis comp
I didn't put noah in there that will die lol
ok it's 4RL against 4RL, but liter will brick your s.anis due to ammo
1st
For one minute 
14,6% deficit, so you're still in range 🤔
my only concern if you've enough damage to kill cindy and moran
you'll likely kill emi and RH early on
but cindy and moran gonna take a while with rapu
I can bring rh here for b1 and give rrh someone else?
yeah, seems reasonable
if crown is well invested, you could throw her instead of alice
oh and you could even save biscuit from p2 death
noah crown biscuit s.anis rh
Is this hopium?
Kay
If I swap cindy for sbs?
CP struggle is real 🤔
is it normal as a challenger 6 to be ten place in ranking
it's good, how about links tho? rrh still 2nd or 1st highest atk% included OL's?
Don't worry about it, it's gonna be calculated by the end of season point avg anyway
Emilia not linked, rrh lowest hp in link
hmm looks perfect then 🤔
didn't check cp tho let's see
oh oke good to know cuz it was kinda weird for me i mean its not bad cuz iam since a long time challenger 6 but i always wonderd

Holy shit that was so close on rrh
Try to hit challenger 1?

you were still with less than a second left of indom when rumani finally died 
maybe she could've needed RH afterall, but CP pushed your hand
I didn't expect that comp to be this tanky bruh
yeah... might be a lot of dolls on there 
you'd be CP gapped on all 3 teams ezpz 
Thank you 
you welcome, thinking that for the bay team on next times it might be easier to do an emi indom instead, she should bypass bay cover 
But that would need rh and biscuit and jackal 
Yes my emilia and blanc are paper how can you tell
we can take RH away from other team and get emi running with double buff, s.anis is probably fine with crown and alice
oh you don't think emi lives 3RL on p1 with jackal link uh
Think?
She outright doesn't 
RIP, then your hand is kinda forced there
She dies at like 2rl on average
yikes
Am I supposed to sr15 her 
well the doll and a vigor cube would probably help
else you'd need to put mana or rapu
something like this perhaps:
Emi doesn't need to live, just shooting range it fitst
oh so blanc emi biscuit rh flex?
Yes
How would that work
Emilia die = team ded 
Rh finishes that team easily
@fathom rock if this meets CP requirements, she'd live
If she doesn't get p2 sniped 
mhm
Emi just there for gen and prevent rh from getting taunted
else sacrifice biscuit in p2 instead
oh you'd burst with RH i see 🤔
since RH would start from p5, you'd kill biscuit, then bay, then whole team
since damage share, probably whole teams dies with biscuit actually
emilia team actually worked in rookie, changing is always good every now and then 
Why moran 10/10/10?
pvp slave 
Why not 
bro just suicided 
Me
eh hope so, he's so bricked 
Should I change my team comps? (Let's say I have about every nikke but Rapunzel, Noah, Biscuit and Anne)
Any more that I should delete? @keen vapor
Rupee and Pascal as well
If you want, Nero, but do not let Merry know if you do so
Guess that's all...
It doesn’t let me delete Rupee
Is there a way I can bypass it?
I wish I could bookmark messages
Screenshot 
Hey @tropic summit This looks good to go?
I had enough unlock slot rocks to unlock 3 more slots so I’m just missing Moran now
Round1: yes
R2: Maybe
R3:
not sure .....
cindy team looks ok, but SBS and scarlet team are kinda weak
post your box with nikke ordered by strength, we can probably upgrade those
How to know which team is good or no?
a mix of burst gen tier and the nikke involved can tell you whether a team can be strong or weak
as a general rule, a slower team will be easier to counter compared to a faster one
Sorry what is RL mean?
But.. but I like to go slow 
hmm as echo said, t1 looks ok, t2 will need emi to survive 4 splash damage (noah biscuit emi xmaiden) in 3RL to get to be indommed
Uhh, doesn't it mean rocket launcher?... 
:susge:
give this a read, in particular the section about burst generation
Also requires not getting unlucky with biscuit skill proccing on both defenders after Noah shield down
I can't even tell what's on Rosy PFP anymore
all you need to know is that yuri is great and I agree with @umbral crown choices a lot 
Also.. do you mean my current team cp? 

nah your whole box, first 3-4 lines is usually enough, ordered by strength so we can also tell investiment
how's your s.anis? i like to counter 3RL emi with 4RL noah biscuit rapu s.anis crown
example:
Ok thank you
oki gonna take a look 
Ordered from highest cp to lowest 
is helm treasured?
he's noahless 
No fav item?...
Like I was...
oh oki thanks for confirming

also, there is no biscuit hiding below there right?
Yep, I don't have Biscuit 
naga liter cind emi anis
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
s.anis sbs alice centi rrh (CP padded team)
cubes:
quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc
resil on s.anis
wishlist/build: get asap noah, rumani, consider building xmaiden, get helmT asap
notes: T3 is better off as CP pad due to lack of batteries, once you find noah/rumani can remake T3 and upgrade T2 and T1
Thank you I'll use this 
Does Rosanna burst ignore taunt?
No

She’s max skilled and OL geared but I don’t have Noah
@worthy knoll do you have a updated defence team for arena
I don't do def team recommendations. You can prolly ask Rail or Rosy for those
Somehow I feel any generic def is just easy to break by those who knows 
Only ones thats is weird and that can give them the element of surprise can prolly work. Though..
most of those "who knows" are 2RL cindy-scarlet nuke spammers
the more guaranteed one is having deep pockets and cp gapping them to oblivion 
help me defeat him
Too late
Mirror line up...
Oh, anchor needs our gems 
next week*
Indeed
All for anchor
@keen vapor you failed snipe, go 361 tomorrow
I didn't
But I think he knows he will get C3 regardless
I miss pvping on sp, have not moved from my rank since shuffle
See, still C3
And we about to get shuffle
The bois here have skill isssues
shuffle is next reset?
No
You can't fail something you didn't even try 
@tropic summit what do you think 

He doesn't even needs to snipe me 

I would have sniped you
And I would have sniped back
I didn't know there was MT
Sometimes it works
But sometimes opponents can just cp smash even if you have creative lineups
I had times where I had 200k-300k cp disadvantages on opponents, yet my def stonewalls them
Then there are others who I am near-even with them in cp and they run through any defense I have
So it doesn’t make much sense to me
And usually the ones who run through my def have the worst defensive lineups, with underdeveloped units (where I am 95% pvp focused and have solid units)

Would you?

A zzzz shuffle, the bois already gave up
What your team?
some crazy team
Emi+Blanc+RH+Crown+Jackal
The strongest variant. If you can't deal enough dmg with this then no Emi team has enough dmg.
what comp is he dealing with
Well, 😌 work until they attacked it many times or decide to record and find counter.
Idk, he casually just said Noah+RH give better dmg than Blanc+RH+Crown.


~~Noah personal dmg matters ~~
I mean, it's more about tanking with Noah after Noah block the nuke at this point.
Rather than dmg.
MT done
Anchor looks good for pvp 
do we know her kit already?
Yep. Details all in nikkepedia for maid units
Any other sources? Kinda lazy to open the app now
Anchor's burst may be relevant as an anti-nuke option
But it's a B2 so hard to say
Thanks. Finally we got a viable Rossana buffer. 🤔
That said, attack buff as well
Is Anchor and Helm same squad?
yes
That make her + Helm pretty much anti stall teams then...
Elysion duo in PvE. Apparently better than Crown
oh she heals + atk up + reload speed in PVE
she can also go above 160% max hp
that's pretty sick
and alot of atk buffs, long uptime
Who is the 3rd member of their squad?
Helm Anchor Mast
wow what is this Mast shenanigan
so many ATK Up but she herself will be a liability
40s B2 for anchor
hit rate down + stun herself lol
Guess need to use all 3 of them together
New overclock as well, infinite
They are preparing for CA with these Arena units...
not with Mast tho, she MG and in CA she'll be RNG as heck lmao
100% crit scarlet wipe is possible now....
Crit rate meta in coming.
luckily i havent take out scarlet's cdmg kewk
Scarlet+lv1mast+Rosa+newMast+Jackal.
How viable would that be? 🤔
double mast strat lmao
It should give Scarlet enough Crit rate for guarantee Crit wipe.
kinda sad that m.mast won't be able to buff ros tho
Her s1 buff when entering B1. Meaning she buff Rossana
Just like Cindy s1 buff herself before she wipe.
20% crit rate and 35% self ATK... Biggest buff a single Nikke ever give to Rossana.










