pvp-arena

[cedar orbit]

literally copied my team, but should probably move Rumani 2 up and slide the rest down

you know, for Emilia purposes

[tropic summit]

actually let's add some offburst la+

but ye, could be anything

[keen vapor]

Most cooks don't really need quantum tbh

[swift mango]

Good luck getting Noise SG/LapT'ed down.

[keen vapor]

We just leave quantum on just in case

[tropic summit]

it's 2RL, you expect people to kill a SR15 noise with vigor in 2RL? 🤔

[bleak shale]

do u think my 90% ele bsoda can?

[swift mango]

My Sugar and LapT is up for the challenge

[keen vapor]

Black ele

[tropic summit]

wew, now that i'd like to see 🤔

but ye, emilia foolproof as suggested by Iris:

[swift mango]

Maybe you could replace Rumani with Pepper

[tropic summit]

post your current 3 teams let's see if we can stick her somewhere

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

to mess with indoms?

[swift mango]

To 2rl other team

I think we could have 3 x 2 RL team easy now.

No need for 25% emi

The problem is still the buff..m

[cedar orbit]

kinda cope

[keen vapor]

SR15 is not easy

[swift mango]

One month saving should be enough

[keen vapor]

[cedar orbit]

He doesn't know

[swift mango]

And sr15 is easier than 25% Emi no matter how you slice it.

[keen vapor]

Fine....

[brittle hill]

[keen vapor]

Skill 2

[brittle hill]

kk

[keen vapor]

Why you're surprised, is the same with Mica

[glad meteor]

Skill 1 adds flat gen after each shot?

[brittle hill]

Mica? Jk i have her

[keen vapor]

Let's see #1057587834690740275

[brittle hill]

at lv 0

[glad meteor]

I’m too lazy to check. I’m pretty sure xmica and helm aren’t the same

[keen vapor]

Ok, is skill 1, yes

Each shot

[glad meteor]

Yeah, This is like rosanna

[keen vapor]

Uh.... Rosanna burst gen skill is the second... Right?

The first one is to unlink the enemy

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[muted stag]

@worthy knoll @swift mango it worked out thx

[tropic summit]

hmm T2 is running an exposed blanc

she'd be pretty convinient there... but you'd be short on burst gen

[umbral belfry]

what do you mean as exposed? her placement?

[tropic summit]

as in being p1 without a biscuit or rapunzel

if they committed to p1, you'd lose your indom

although there's a way to throw mana in there, do you've pepper?

[umbral belfry]

yeah on the wrong acc

not on this one

[tropic summit]

oh eheh

[umbral belfry]

and ofc Noah is on that account too

I haven't checked how man's burst gen is yet

but assuming I did slot her in, would drake go?

[tropic summit]

how about rapu?

[umbral belfry]

nope :(

[tropic summit]

darn

either way i was thinking this, but you lack a B1 that is either clip SG burst gen or normal RL burst gen

if we put something like that you get a 3RL with blanc on mana ress

[umbral belfry]

I'll take note of this, but bc my mana s2 isn't lv10 I assume leave teams unchanged for now right?

[tropic summit]

well yeah, if she's barely built not worth it

[umbral belfry]

fair enough

okay I'll take note, ty ty!

[tropic summit]

it would work even with lvl4 btw

[umbral belfry]

hmhmhm

maybe I'll wishlist pepper

[tropic summit]

eh i dunno if worth it just for that specific setting

just go with priority nikke

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

i'd rather have you aim for these teams:

#pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

at best i can do a level 4, so i miiiight try that out sometime in the future

[tropic summit]

since they contain both pve and pvp units, which is ideal building as your priority is campaign

[umbral belfry]

I think those outside of Laplace and emilia are all wishlisted rn

I'm just surviving off crumbs

but I do want scarlet bc I'm stuck on mother whale

or Cindy really

is this winnable now? doesn't look like the deficit is nearly as bad as before

still there ofc

but i think burst wise i go first?

[eager mountain]

looks very winnable, tho noise can die before burst

[umbral belfry]

yeah that's what i was thinking too

but the best i have to close the gap is to add liter, but less burst gen

if i were to take out xmaid

[eager mountain]

the lowest cp u can get before hitting deficit is their cp*0.846

but their team is really bad so winnable with some deficit

[tropic summit]

what are the other 2 teams?

oh nvm it's rookie

[umbral belfry]

128,272 unless my math isnt matching

[tropic summit]

you can probably pad it

[eager mountain]

yeah u still have 10k to play around

[umbral belfry]

that is the padded team but my worry is if noise dies

[tropic summit]

oh wow really? those are your highest

[umbral belfry]

moving on up

[tropic summit]

well dude being 13 levels ahead also does help

[umbral belfry]

yeah

[tropic summit]

the real problem with that team is that naga will mess with your indom, as she'll shoot p5

[umbral belfry]

decisions decisions on swapping out liter for xmaid for safety but less burst gen hmhm

ohhh

[tropic summit]

so either you get lucky and noise lives to b2 of blanc, she'll taunt + indom, works great for you

or the funzies happen, noise dies, sbs and xmaiden will contend blanc's indom

[umbral belfry]

I guess there's only one way to find out

[tropic summit]

OH NO

[eager mountain]

noise would live if she can burst, if she cant there isnt a b1 to begin with

[umbral belfry]

yeahh

[tropic summit]

hime about to go yolo

give noise vigor at least

(if you've it)

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

aww

[umbral belfry]

indont have

[eager mountain]

she should live if ur team is a bit faster then this

[tropic summit]

wait you've a mana

is it time to shine

[umbral belfry]

yes but she's not built

[umbral belfry]

when I used the burst gen, last I checked I had 3RL vs their "basically never"

[tropic summit]

what's CP like with this?

[umbral belfry]

whew

[eager mountain]

3rl noise without heal wont live at my level but donno ur level...

[umbral belfry]

just barely

[tropic summit]

you want noise in p5 to tank naga, blanc in p1, sbs in p2

that way, if you're lucky sbs gets indom, worst case scenario noise steals it, but she will also taunt

seems safer

blanc sbs alice mana noise, in this order

it's gonna be fun to watch

[umbral belfry]

still 129k at lv4

[eager mountain]

mobile record, and then crashes

[tropic summit]

14,6% deficit, you in range barely even

[umbral belfry]

bet

[tropic summit]

up to you

you could fight someone else

[keen vapor]

Rail, you have failed me

[tropic summit]

hey it worked on ch6

[eager mountain]

why all those mfs at u

[tropic summit]

he's the underdog in the bracket

so everyone ganging on the poor echo

[eager mountain]

damn

[tropic summit]

took him an extra try tho @keen vapor

[eager mountain]

anyway just got mana gonna build and figure out where to put her

[umbral belfry]

it's up for them im on their ass now

ty both for your help!

[tropic summit]

lmao

that was beautiful

[keen vapor]

And malogro succeed first try

[umbral belfry]

i was literally just LMAO

[tropic summit]

guy is probably stacked, bet he's running indom emi and scar-jack

i've ch2 who's doing that and i've yet to find a way to counter it (on def), helmT might be the answer

[keen vapor]

He is stacked

[umbral belfry]

now the question is do I keep my og def team or not

it has more cp hmhmhm

[tropic summit]

well this one was very situational, so use it only on these cases

[eager mountain]

lv 500+ my def team was
noah/centi/sanis/xmaiden/noise
scar/anne/noir->tHelm/rosa/jackel
blanc/emilia/rh/bis/rumani

was safe for almost a month and even switched to built tHelm but mf kicked my ass with mana lol

[umbral belfry]

very true

[tropic summit]

yes, revenge time

[umbral belfry]

now i wait

[keen vapor]

Cook again

[tropic summit]

gif box

we gonna make you stronk

[umbral crown]

Why you C5

[keen vapor]

I just overloaded last piece for Rumani

I'm 0 rocks at the moment

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[umbral crown]

Wheres mana

[tropic summit]

yeah no helm treasure, you're bricked @keen vapor

just kidding

[keen vapor]

I'm hoarding

[umbral crown]

But why C5

[tropic summit]

who C5?

[keen vapor]

She actually has MLB, just not installed

[umbral crown]

Here

You of course

[tropic summit]

ohoh... which means soon

[umbral crown]

🧱

[keen vapor]

I lack blue mats at the moment for R doll

[tropic summit]

i'm looking at these grills, let's see what can be assembled that you didn't try yet @keen vapor

[umbral crown]

You are showing a boi beat you and sent you to C5 for 13h

[tropic summit]

that's echo defense

[umbral crown]

Nanitf

@keen vapor

[tropic summit]

i'm dueling my whale instead

he CP gapping me

[umbral crown]

Credit card issues

[tropic summit]

i wish i could've something to argue with that, but it's the painful truth

my credit card is weaker

[umbral crown]

Time to upgrade it

[tropic summit]

in fact i've yet to use it and probably will never, i refuse as a true f2p

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

the good thing is that i've stocked up on 7 levels worth of boxes

[umbral crown]

For nikke 2.5?

[tropic summit]

once i get in range for le CP boost i'll try again

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

nikke 1.5

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Do not make me use the thing

[tropic summit]

you want me to use the box already? what if there's campaign stages right around the end of february?

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hit-slippers-gif-8655731

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor you have quantum lvl 7 rite?

[keen vapor]

Yes

Adjutant 7 as well

Vigor 7

[umbral crown]

Tempura lv1

[keen vapor]

Tempering 7, yes

[umbral crown]

Why you losing a lot then

Do not make me pepe you

[copper creek]

tf

how do u guys have so many lv7 cubes

[keen vapor]

no sé

[umbral crown]

This also

[bleak shale]

If u invest in pvp and then lose are they just wasted investments

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

My resilience is only level 8
Bastion still 7

[keen vapor]

Bastion is close tho

[umbral crown]

How

[keen vapor]

[glad meteor]

I can 7 quantum next ur. Need 6 batteries

[umbral crown]

Pero

[umbral crown]

I would but tempura

That needs to be lv10 to keep workin on the next one

[tropic summit]

i'm currently pondering for T3 with these leftover (based on investiment)

[umbral crown]

The fun is to have pvp cubes lv10

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-vince-mcmahon-meme-vince-mcmahon-gif-vince-mcmahon-cry-vince-mcmahon-holding-tears-gif-14065411259342880256

[tropic summit]

feels like there could be a T3 with moran indom taunt 🤔

[rich quail]

You always hoard

[umbral crown]

Moran indom... hard to happen

[tropic summit]

on the other hand i'm thinking of a p1 p2 p3 def with biscuit

e.g. rumani centi cind biscuit to prevent wipe from a nuke

his opponents i get the feeling are running a buffed emi indom and a scar-jack

half tempted to make him try a 4RL crown s.anis

[rich quail]

U better not be hoarding batteries, too

Imma punch u

[tropic summit]

ok echo

[keen vapor]

My Scarlet only has two attack lines sir 7/7/7

[tropic summit]

let's do a test

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

i wish i didn't read that

[rich quail]

BAD DOGGIE

NO BISCUIT

[keen vapor]

I always need more skill mats

[tropic summit]

how invested is your xmaiden?

[keen vapor]

7/10/7

[tropic summit]

seems good enough

[keen vapor]

1 attack line I think

[keen vapor]

It wasn't the last time, but I have level 7 Vigor now

[tropic summit]

we going to commit to 2 teams and pad a 3rd

i'm taking the idea from merry's on xmaiden with jackal buff, that will hurt like a brick

run this for the next day and let's see

[keen vapor]

Biscuit Indom

[tropic summit]

put a quantum anyway on jackal and centi

[keen vapor]

Emilia 21 I remind you

[tropic summit]

apologies, it is done m'lord

[keen vapor]

I'm thinking

Maybe that team... Maybe Rumani is better on P5.... Or alternatively, Cindy on P4

[tropic summit]

aye, just ensure B1 is safe and cindy if facing emi p4 is a good idea

[keen vapor]

Right, I should put Vigor on her

[tropic summit]

although it's 2RL, honestly want to hope you can't get killed so fast

[keen vapor]

Noah tempering

[tropic summit]

strength distribution, just for your info: (from top to bottom)

i've another combo of teams in mind in case, it's a 4RL stall with crown, but let's see how these fare

it's a shame you don't have a rosanna built or a scarlet with 40% atk OL's 🤔

[umbral crown]

7/7/7?

[tropic summit]

rosy about to bluescreen reading that

[umbral crown]

Imma have visit echo to give some smacks irl

[calm gull]

ure gonna have him smack u or what

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/tsuki-tsuki-ga-tsuki-ga-michibiku-anime-angry-gif-22498671

[calm gull]

[umbral crown]

Im the one smacking

[tropic summit]

some ppl might be happy being smacked by spider lady

[umbral crown]

Indeed

We need another season

[tropic summit]

ikr

[calm gull]

ye

[tropic summit]

2nd season was even better

either way off to , lemme know how it goes @keen vapor

[calm gull]

whats echo cooking

[rich fiber]

Any thoughts on using treasured Drake as main burst rather then off burst for PVP? Her burst went from 1250% to 3000% final ark dmg...

[keen vapor]

Drake is one target only

[umbral crown]

To kill you ez

You are the only target here

[scarlet rain]

where can I find some of the current meta pvp comps haven't touched it in forever

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[rich fiber]

OK ty misunderstood burst description

[umbral crown]

With skill issues, imagine not maxing scar

[umbral crown]

On echos hands

[keen vapor]

I never have the mats

[umbral crown]

2.5 you will have plenty

[bleak latch]

i got free elevator

[upper grove]

so for Helm, is treasure lvl 3 needed or is 1 or 2 enough? investments skillwise, s1 maxed. How high should S2 be and is she bursting for the nuke or is she just a huge battery?

[keen vapor]

Difference on last team is 17k and they're 500k already

[upper grove]

and what's the current opinion regarding Mana? worth pulling?

[keen vapor]

She's worth for Kraken farming/SBS companion

She's also wishlistable

[keen vapor]

Level 3 needed

She can burst indeed

Skill is a good buff so is worth to work on it

[keen vapor]

She can burst if you're against a scar jack link*

Is situationally

[upper grove]

so basically full treasure 10/10/10?

[glad meteor]

Gib scarlet

[keen vapor]

No mine

[keen vapor]

Malogro is over 500k

Good lord

I don't think padding is a good idea rail

Definitely a bad idea

Is insta lose for me

[upper grove]

mainly a huge battery then with decent dmg and if needed a scar jack link nuker, otherwise aoe wipes should fare better like cindy/scarlet etc?

[keen vapor]

I'm not so sure about huge battery

Have to check calc yet

[glad meteor]

There’s a scarlet player in C1 on my na alt, it’s jover

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit thoughts on team revision?

[keen vapor]

No and no

Third team is kinda ok

[umbral belfry]

okie dok, but any reasons as to why so i learn in the future?

[keen vapor]

With team 2 Blanc will die

[graceful grotto]

mana can revive kewk

[umbral belfry]

even if ressed by mana?

[graceful grotto]

what do you have? no biscuit? jackal? noah?

[keen vapor]

And is 4 RL... Everyone dies

[livid marsh]

Is someone already use mana at pvp?

[umbral belfry]

none of them jsut working with that i got rn

maybe i misunderstood the RL stuff. isn't 4RL quicker? or the quicker the better?

[graceful grotto]

4RL is slower than 2RL

[keen vapor]

The less the better

[graceful grotto]

the less the better yes

[umbral belfry]

OHH

oop i got it the other way aroudn then

so then 3RL would be "decent", right?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[untold basin]

Have all the characters except like 2 or 3 Abnormal

[upper grove]

I just saw this on the updated sheet

[umbral belfry]

gotca gotcha, ty for clarifying!

[keen vapor]

Mine doesn't update

Uh huh

Why that screen?

[untold basin]

One sec can screen shot then

[upper grove]

so according to the sheet, 39.82 is higher than clip SG (18) and Laplace treasure (17.4) combined

[keen vapor]

Yeah, is clip RL level...

And above

[untold basin]

@keen vapor logging in

[upper grove]

Now I feel kinda bummed because I should be reasonable and upgrade RH first

[untold basin]

Should be in soon lol

@keen vapor

Better?

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[graceful grotto]

bro put every nikke in synchro

[upper grove]

oh btw is Mana resurrection a legit strat we can play around with? because she's not reliant on burst

[untold basin]

Lol

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[graceful grotto]

yes

[untold basin]

Had the slots put them in because i could @graceful grotto u know cause fk it

[graceful grotto]

you could say her only usage is revive if you bring her in pvp

[upper grove]

mana sac strat with rosanna sounds kinda fun but idk

[untold basin]

Sounds good if u figure something out I would be very grateful.

[coarse lake]

anyone got mana vids

[untold basin]

Think gold 1 does

[misty finch]

Is helm the best unit to treasure for PVP now?

And do we have mana burst gen values?

[umbral belfry]

from what i've seen def yes

[upper grove]

Mana pulled in 20, guess I can play around her with some funny comps

[keen vapor]

Yes

[misty finch]

Is she also best treasure unit overall now?

[keen vapor]

Well

I think Drake will be used on more raids than Helm but.... Yes, attack damage is very good

[untold basin]

@keen vapor sorry to of bother u take it ez.

Earlier (pvp)

[keen vapor]

Scar tier

Level 4 bad

[livid marsh]

Is mana usefull for pvp?

[upper grove]

only for the revive apparently

[livid marsh]

Ah rapunzel copy

[upper grove]

she doesn't need to burst for the revive though, that's her niche

[keen vapor]

Dinner is ready

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit qualify my cooking

[keen vapor]

If your Anis and Jackal are filled with charge speed that's better

See?

How I just get angy

Noah the strongest

[keen vapor]

Besides that, I got rejected first time bc I wasn't helpful enough back then

He tried before +70% HP potency

[finite wedge]

I guess the game decided today is a pvp day. I had some standard banner tickets stored up, and I got a Scarlet, Bay, and Rumani dupe in 20 pulls

[keen vapor]

Checkpoint

[upper grove]

I feel so blessed now, new years gifted me all units in the roster except limiteds and trony. full pvp experiments

[keen vapor]

Huh? bug still after update?

Yes, Malogro does it

@coarse lake

[copper creek]

not enough

[keen vapor]

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

Ok, time to cook.... Oh look at that, 6% battery left for me

[keen vapor]

Where's Merry's investigation on Rosanna when you need it

[keen vapor]

Too slow .... Nah, actually decent for CP padding

Goodness, 500

[thorn crest]

Normal team is 1m cp

[keen vapor]

Rip

[thorn crest]

Build me team

[untold basin]

Ty

[eager mountain]

honestly donno where to put mana... damn

[keen vapor]

I need your units first

Post your box

[vapid lake]

@covert lintel ?

[covert lintel]

[rustic sandal]

Could you please create a formation for special arena? (defense)

now
Jackal/Scarlet/Scalter/Poli/Pepper
Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Centi
Noise/Noah/S.Anis/Rapunzel/Maiden

[thorn crest]

No i have everyone

[eager mountain]

but do u have liberalio?

[thorn crest]

Yes siren too

[eager mountain]

[eager mountain]

wut is scalter

[keen vapor]

Good pun

[keen vapor]

Scarlet Alter

[eager mountain]

sbs is the only legal abbreviation

[coarse lake]

bscar

[keen vapor]

You liked my ping?

[coarse lake]

the vid? yeah it was decent

need moar

[eager mountain]

centi/scar/mari/rosa/jackel
blanc/emt/bis/rh/rumani
noise/rapun/sanis/xMaiden/noah

get trasure helm if needed.

[keen vapor]

TiBi-san is chef ..... Wait, why Rosa scar with jackal on P1

[eager mountain]

oh

he dont have anne thats why i had her there, forgor

f

"fixed", centi can just die and feed rosa ig

rip her

[rustic sandal]

Which one are xMaiden?

[eager mountain]

xmaiden = christmas maiden = the blue one

[rustic sandal]

thank you!

[eager mountain]

cash or credit

[rustic sandal]

What is emt?

[eager mountain]

u had game in jp and dont know the weeb reference, emilia. エミリアたん　マジ　天使

also can use crown instead of mari if cp is a concern, tho she feeds enemy jackel

[rustic sandal]

thank you very much! 　エミリアたん　マジ　天使 　Yes, that's right!

[loud sonnet]

I just realized drake Treasure will hurt s.anis team

[eager mountain]

||パンドラちゃんマジ天使||

[eager mountain]

not teaming them in champion arena ig

[rustic sandal]

I'm sorry for asking so much of you. Please tell me which cube should I attach to each character.

[keen vapor]

Emilia tan

[keen vapor]

?

Oh, that...

Time to pair her with normal Maiden ig

[eager mountain]

centi (quantum) / scar (bastion/tempering) / mari (any) / rosa (any) / jackel (quantum)
blanc (vigor) / emt (adjutant unless u already have 21% charge speed from s1 and OL) / bis (any) / rh (any) /rumani (quantum/adjutant)
noise (vigor) / rapun (any) / sanis (resili) / xMaiden (quantum) / noah (quantum/tempering)

for any, use tempering or highest lv cube or adjutant

btw, are you japanese?

[keen vapor]

I would Rosa P1

[rustic sandal]

I appreciate you! yes, I am Japanese.

[eager mountain]

yeah i honestly donno which way is the best cuz p1 cant live if they go rosa...

[vapid lake]

pvp peaceful now

Hope it stay that way until new chapter

[eager mountain]

yeah japanese would ask weirdly politely ||, ur average american homies will ask by threatening instead... jk||

[upper grove]

new chapter = bracket reset?

[bleak shale]

Calm before the storm new whales coming into ur bracket next season

[vapid lake]

Like 3 ppl went inactive in my bracket so 3 new whales

[vapid lake]

Not yet but im waiting for new chapter to get +3 core dust before opening my hoard of boxes

[eager mountain]

ill tell su to delay it

i only save the second they announce new ch

[vapid lake]

new ch should be out on 30 jan

Been saving for that

[eager mountain]

1 lv is 1 lv in arena

[rustic sandal]

I think it's probably because I'm using Google Translate.

[brittle hill]

disagree with blanc on vigor. She only benefits with tempering. Scarlet tempering may, or may not work

[eager mountain]

its indeed the way how average japanese would phrase stuff

[eager mountain]

i dont have lv 10 temper so i can only throw it on someone that doesnt have any max hp scaled skills

[quick lake]

cubes dont matter much

[brittle hill]

I have a lv 9 vigor on Noah and I'm anxiously waiting the day I have to switch to tempering . It's working too well

[eager mountain]

kinda saving some union chips

if su gonna toss another rehab

unlikely tho

[quick lake]

When liberalio

[eager mountain]

for the love of god make her an op banner instead of a useless rehab

[brittle hill]

Bruh I still don't know how to get nihilister lmao. I never googled it either. I'm lv 393 sync too

uhh got quincy left

[eager mountain]

you should already have her rehab unlocked

[eager mountain]

anyone come up with good teams to put mana in yet
most good stall teams will be over 2rl with her, also dont feel like scarletrosa team really needs her

[strange quail]

has any of the pvp masters opinion on new treasure and Mana yet ?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[whole shell]

Helm treasure higher gen than jackal

Mana is okay for pvp from what I’ve seen

[keen vapor]

In short, yes

[upper grove]

@tropic summit this guy finally beat me after 2 weeks of peace, same guy who attacked me 5x in 1 day 2 seasons ago I might need to get new recipes from the kitchen if he beats me again

[keen vapor]

Isn't top 3 enough for you? :pepeh

[eager mountain]

awkwardly similar to my case

tho defense win on him wasnt shown here

[upper grove]

It's about sending a message: that guy bounces frequently between C3-C6 and never bothers hitting 2nd place, always me. look at this

like, he hits me in rookie all the time as well and I lose there but idc about rookie

[upper grove]

they just like you

[copper creek]

why tempering over vigor for blanc

[brittle hill]

we thought her S3 max hp scaled with vigor cube

[copper creek]

doesnt matter lol

[tropic summit]

Well we could give the Def an update, post your box I ll be on lunch break in 4 hours

[tropic summit]

[strange quail]

I spent 210 roll for Mana man, what a waste

[coarse lake]

was just able to test against the CN special (their biscuit lived)

2 buffer emi still nuked even if she didn't, as long as I nearly nuked, their bscar wasn't doing much to my team anyway

so yeah the cn special bay biscuit team isn't really anything special, just emi nuke it as usual

and if somehow you're still struggling or emi dying too fast, just do emi/blanc/rh/crown/jackal

3 buffer + safe, easy win

I need to know which popular cn guide or cc they're getting this specific setup from

anyone able to dig around? seen this sp setup so many times from different ppl (always CN)

it's... ok, but nothing special

it's like a.... noob-safe attempt at a stall team

minimal invest from the typical pvp units, bay and rumani need no invest

[unreal latch]

helm best burst gen now?

[lunar dirge]

Jackal needs like 4 feed procs to just tie up to her

On 2 rl

[coarse lake]

she also ignores the p2 dead unit that's commonly used to kill gen

your team still loses gen since only 1 helm, but you suffer less

[lunar dirge]

Helm alone almost guarantees that the team you run is 4rl in the worst case

[coarse lake]

tbf that's usually enough to make your team lose, but it's better sure

[lunar dirge]

Isn't helm + clip rl+normal rl enough for 2 rl like almost always?

yeah, she's busted ass broken

[coarse lake]

yeah but not if p2 dead unit

well ig it depends on how fast the p2 dies

[swift mango]

This just discouraged me to roll for Mana lol...

Thanks.

[lunar dirge]

funny how PvP wise Mana got outshadowed with helm's treasure

This thing was too hype

deez nuts

[swift mango]

I figured you could get to 2rl with HelmT and 3-4 SG easily now, you you could completely disregard empty p2.

[lunar dirge]

scarjack is still here sadly

and empty p2 is kinda high level stuff?

[coarse lake]

well

most common use of empty p2 on def is scar jack

[swift mango]

Scar-Jackal has 100 way to beat though... Like Rossana+3SG+HelmT could be 2 rl

[lunar dirge]

I mean defence wise at least, so just another new attack comp of a billion other existing ones

[swift mango]

What I just say could be for def comps lol

[coarse lake]

problem would be if you can kill their linked before they b1

or if they get the feed from you first

and if you could kill linked before b1, you can do it without helm anyway

[lunar dirge]

With SG team you'll probably die faster from scarlet counter

[swift mango]

Well, no just Jackal but you would also see P1 biscuited empty p2.

[coarse lake]

that's like only on atk, and still very niche

I've never heard of anyone run that on def

she doesn't really help the problem atm, not that it matters too much bc it's barely a problem due to how niche it is, but she's a step

I've also considered helm to snipe p1 noah

[swift mango]

Alex was talking about def comp, you was talking about attack lol

[coarse lake]

the only p2 low sync setup I've seen run is scar jack with mast

across any account

if your team can't deal with that, it's a niche counter to an extremely niche def

[swift mango]

No team perfect in both, but look like Helm+Rosy+3clip SG could be a pretty strong def team as well as attack

[coarse lake]

eh sure, for champ

[swift mango]

Even for SP it could contribute

[coarse lake]

p1 helm in a setup where teammmates are low dmg could very well be a consistent way to kill p1 noah biscuit

[lunar dirge]

I can see that helm can fit in a stall comp really well with s.anis

[coarse lake]

run a no attacker cindy team, you win

[lunar dirge]

Assuming you can do 2 fb rotations

[coarse lake]

cindy herself blocks all your sgs in p5

[swift mango]

Well, it's not about counter, S.Anis could be beaten by same team and more

At least it's a SG team that's not afraid of scarjack, empty p2 and save Clip RL for other teams

[coarse lake]

I mean... we got other setups that can do them fine, only upside is not weak to empty p2

well for most ppl even running 3 clips means your team cp is low enough that enemy can afford to run empty p2

[swift mango]

Then you could use other set up for 2 other teams. Smh

[coarse lake]

maybe in a year when it's normal to expect 3 clip rls built, rn we got... noir and... drake ig

we got enough good units to not need to save units in sp tbh

2rl cindy with helm especially is a lot easier now

[minor kestrel]

Can someone help me with sp arena teams please? I have everyone except Rouge and Mary Bay Goddess

[coarse lake]

if anyone got full treasure helm, test out 2rl p1 helm with weak dmg teammates against any noah biscuit comp where noah has taunt prio, I wanna see if helm can reliably 1 tap noah, bypassing invuln

[swift mango]

Like I said. The team I mentioned doesn't use any common option for DEF team at all. It's perfectly fine to add it and 2 other 2rl team to make hard to beat 3 2rl team.

[coarse lake]

2rl sg team doesn't really have much benefit over 3rl sg team, rosa is faster... that's it, but cindy comps don't give a damn really

sure you can do it, but eh, does not seem very practical mainly bc of building 3 clip sgs

[swift mango]

Like Cindy give a damn to any other team either

Funny thing huh?

[coarse lake]

I got no idea what you mean by that statement

[swift mango]

Give me one team that I couldn't Cindy'ed.

2 RL to 5rl Cindy, biscuit Cindy, Blanc Cindy, empty p2 Cindy.

There is basically zero defense team that couldn't be cindy'ed

[coarse lake]

I'm saying there's not much use to making a team go from 3rl to 2rl if it's still countered by the same things

[swift mango]

I did said, common SG team is counter by Scarjack, didn't I? Why bother to use Cindy for that.

[coarse lake]

sure it's better, but at the cost of having good bursting b2? ig b3 is ok if you burst with helm, using it as also a double snipe setup, that's like best case

4sg + rosa comps already exist, and ppl still don't run them in sp

helm is a marginal upgrade, main one is just helm b3 being much better than whatever instant sg b3 we got rn

[swift mango]

Because it's barely 3rl, easily countered by anything 2rl that can't be snipped by rosa

2.5 RL even

[quick lake]

T1: Scarlet Crown RH Centi Jackal
T2: Noah Viper Cindy Noir Noise
T3: Blanc SBS Biscuit Pepper Emilia

Likely u're behind everyone else in sync levels, so pvp will be tough. Also missing Rumani so u dont have all the units

[minor kestrel]

I have Rumani she’s just not sync

[quick lake]

Edited to include Rumani

[minor kestrel]

Thanks!

[coarse lake]

I'm not seeing how making the team 2rl would fix that

[minor kestrel]

Wait sorry omg I don’t have Rumani

[coarse lake]

and also what would your other teams need to be to require all the good gen units we got rn

[swift mango]

Well, it could beat most 2.5-3RL team now at least?

[coarse lake]

3rl sg rosa comp would beat them already bc of b1 snipe

[swift mango]

Idk, Cindy and scarlet 2rl I guess. Without needing 25% CS emi. It's good to have the options to swap around.

[quick lake]

No worries! Edited the teams

[coarse lake]

I'm not really seeing how it's practical, viper is almost a necessary member of such a comp, unless you use a non-sg b2

building viper is essentially brick atm, drake and noir as other members are fine

[minor kestrel]

Thanks again so once I get Rumani just swap her in for pepper?

[coarse lake]

and... the setup is still carried by helm, being a 2rl helm snipe is ok

at that point.... just run a helm rosa 2rl without using 2-3 sgs

[quick lake]

Yep!

[mighty haven]

[coarse lake]

if you're losing to a p2 unit sac, you're dealing with someone you can't cook against, and they have to be similar cp to you to afford it to begin with, interesting cook, usable ofc, but I don't see it being better than the niche cooks we got rn like super stall nero

[swift mango]

Just in case

Wait maybe not possible, nvm lemme check before talking bs

[fathom rock]

Win?

[coarse lake]

Team needs another good b2 clip actually

Rn your p1 is viper or helm dies to xmaiden sub dps+ help

No backup b2, if helm, now using trash b3, helm only for gen

Or run just 2 sgs, with a clip rl b2 backup

Helm 3 is hard snipe if no Noah or Blanc, and life steal, whole team prob lives most dps if hitting into non invuln

Helm needs to be b3

[tropic summit]

I only see 2 things I don't like, emi 3RL without revive and SBS over s.anis in T2

[whole pawn]

is there any use for mana in pvp, or yet to know?

[tropic summit]

Emi on Def without revive or jackal link is too vulnerable

[fathom rock]

Revive

[whole pawn]

I m curious too

[coarse lake]

2.5 RL xanne scar with no Rosa is extremely weak imo

Same with noise Noah bscar

[whole pawn]

ok then worth

[coarse lake]

Emi team is actually the best one

[tropic summit]

In Echos cook?

[coarse lake]

Yes

[tropic summit]

I never struggled against that one so far 🤔

[coarse lake]

It's doable, but easy skip for most, esp with how weak his other two are

[swift mango]

Well, B3 clip SG can be better then you think... Drake Treasure and B.Soda are pretty strong to to pick off from Rossana.

[coarse lake]

That's assuming they factank Rosa snipe with key units

[covert lintel]

did someone cook helmxbiscuit with 3support already?

[coarse lake]

And tbh at that point helm is just gen, eh

[gaunt viper]

huh, odd

[fathom rock]

Bruh that went way better than I expected

[swift mango]

Well , Idk, having 3 B3 that can burst might lessen the pressure needing p1 survive.

They won't be so sure which b3 gonna hit them the first time they face it.

[coarse lake]

Well yeah it's good to be able to burst, but they can effectively turn your team into a default SG Rosa comp that way

If you use bsoda p1, ok they don't run sub dps, same result

Gotta actually use helm b3 for most improvement imo

[gaunt viper]

still won at least

[fathom rock]

But even if helm 1 taps noah
What bout the rest of he enemy comp

[coarse lake]

P1 viper with centi backuo is prob most practical

Viper/centi/helm/Rosa/noir

Helm avoids Noah taunt

3 snipes + life steal to deal with indom Bscar/Sanis

That's the best variation rn imo

[gaunt viper]

the weird thing was I saw my t1 fight and something odd happened where they had no HP and died and then I saw t1 fight again right after with 2 having no health but didn't die and then won which bugged out and froze 🤔

[coarse lake]

Viper is dead slot tbh

Noir actually worth using here

Need b2 clip sg that actually does something

[covert lintel]

how about nihilister instead of viper?

[coarse lake]

Still loses to 2rl Noah that's doesn't care for Rosa snipe, but maybe life steal makes them need buffer

Cindy still walls bc no need buffer when full nuke anyway

Eh

I still feel like it's most practical in champ, no need to be so stingy in sp, team isn't exactly godly, but is super cheap for what it does in sp

Well maybe someone proves me wrong by using it well in sp when other setups don't work

[whole pawn]

do u burst with emi

[fathom rock]

Yes

[whole pawn]

is she AOE

why u didn't use scarlet?

[fathom rock]

Also beat my local whale

<@&946725432554836008>

[whole pawn]

thx mods

[fathom rock]

I DON'T HAVE ONE DON'T REMIND ME

Also emilia nuke is backloaded unlike scarlet which is instant

[whole pawn]

dw, I don't have crown or noah

[calm gull]

dont have noah? pvp bricked
dont have crown? pve bricked
||joke aside, its not really the case||

[quick lake]

||Bricked ||

[calm gull]

||and yes I'm both||

[naive goblet]

new player, can anyone help me build 3 teams for pvp please?

[quick lake]

T1: Blanc SBS Biscuit Rapunzel Noir
T2: Moran MaidPriv Maiden Anis Drake
T3: Auto

[naive goblet]

thank

[naive goblet]

what about best single pvp team?

[quick lake]

First team

[naive goblet]

word

[quiet merlin]

scarlet-blanc-emi-red-jackal
why does the link go on red and emi when my scarlet has more atk than emi?

[tropic summit]

OL lines also count toward that, doublecheck you might've more atk% on emi/RH than scarlet

[quiet merlin]

are the atk lines not added in the status window?

[leaden canyon]

His defense changed and is giving me trouble

[worthy knoll]

OL line stats are never reflected on the stat window.. just think of them like a permanent undispellable on entry buffs similar to cubes

[quiet merlin]

ooke, thats gotta be it then. emi has +33% scarlet only 10%
thank you

[tropic summit]

yep likely that, you can replace emi with another battery, it's probably the easier approach

[frank ingot]

How to win against these?

[tropic summit]

Round 3 is a free scar jack, round 1 is noise noah SBS anis centi, round 2 indom double buff emi should do

[frank ingot]

Thank you

[tropic summit]

Round 3 scar jack, round 1 indom DBL buff emi, round 2 noise noah SBS anis centi

[whole pawn]

should I swap teams?

[grand plaza]

I think thats the best 2 teams I can create with what I have ,right? 3rd team kinda becomes whatever left.

[quick lake]

Yeah! Pretty good cook!

Solid pvp cookings

[quick lake]

Team 1 kinda bad against the opponent

Would probably skip team 1

[whole pawn]

i can't, even team 2 is hard, let me see

[spark egret]

pvp team for Sanis?

[whole pawn]

this is their team 2

[quick lake]

Blanc SAnis Biscuit
Noah SAnis Biscuit
Moran Biscuit SAnis

[quick lake]

Yeah, use ur T1 against their T2

T3 is fine

[spark egret]

i read that anis is good with privaty, that apply to pvp too?

[quick lake]

Ur Jackal team against Rouge team
Centi Biscuit against opponent Jackal Centi

[quick lake]

Hmm, in pvp just SAnis by herself is good enough

Usually pvp ends in 1 burst, so no need priv. But SAnis s3 at lv9

[covert lintel]

in some case is good

[grand plaza]

Is there a back/front row in Arena?

[quick lake]

Not really..? but I think Rouge’s positioning should still work

Thats a very good ques actually

[grand plaza]

Thats why I was asking actually, whether 2/4th slots would work with her or not

There is no "mock battle" in arena right?

[quick lake]

Im not sure tbh

No mock. Can just test in rookie

[grand plaza]

I believe it wouldn't work tbh, but not sure ofc

[glad meteor]

Not the biggest difference maker, imo sometimes it’s worth putting her in a non optimal position outside of (2/4) because of targetting/burst order. (In PvP)

[spark egret]

suggestion for teams for pvp?

[keen vapor]

Doesn't SR aims at P5?

[keen vapor]

He doesn't has Mana

[quick lake]

Did u pull for Mana?

[tropic summit]

Well Eon thinks that's a good team regardless I'd take his word

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

No :frog sip: I'm not even farming kraken at the moment, just like blood

[quick lake]

Better core7 Chime when 2.5 anniv

[keen vapor]

Hai

Eva collab that Rei gacha is pretty

[swift mango]

Front row are p1-3-5

Backrow are p2-4

This mechanic is only used by rouge so far.

[swift mango]

I'm farming Kraken though.

Screw gear... I will farm it when I want to build new nikke. I'm still in the middle of building my current units up.

[swift mango]

Mana is very temping...

Hmmm...

Nah I had my fill pulling for Pepe in Arknight today. Mana will be in my wishlist.

Pulling Mana just to farm missing gear for her is a pain.

[graceful grotto]

imma wishlist her

not gonna pump resources on her for now anyway

i'm actually more interested in her pve potential than pvp

[swift mango]

I guess she would be the first normal Nikke after Alice who has S+ rank across all contents...

Wait LaplaceT already took that spot I think?

Next would be Helm maybe?

Considering my bracket being very stingy and not many having LapT built... Maybe I would have an easy time after having Helm Treasure

[strong hull]

She could be S or below

[swift mango]

It's crazy like Alex said.... Just the day before everyone exciting about Mana then HelmT come out the next day and, well, "maybe she a skip"

[gaunt cypress]

sound:0:5

[strong hull]

Cant deny

Helm was too good

• nice thighs

[quick lake]

[strong hull]

Her "stay with me" made me flashback Miside also

[swift mango]

Mana also need high investment in her s1+2 for better burst gen and revive HP. Not many can effort that while also building HelmT...

Maybe older players above 450 could...

And whales ofc ..

[strong hull]

Helm>Drake other left just🚮

Milk disappointed me so much

At least Mirinda has her slot at Ultra tho

[graceful grotto]

milk isn't that bad

at least she heals, so she can covers both b1 cdr and crown proc-er

but 10 shots do be doodoo lol

[swift mango]

Well she could do 10 shots easily because it only reduce CD by 2.5s...

[graceful grotto]

not even sakura level of cdr lol....

[swift mango]

Crown S3 will have 2.5 sec down time with Milk as well...

[upper grove]

I need 47 days of dispatch for helm treasure

[keen vapor]

It would be barely ok if you could spam those 10 shots instead of full charge

[keen vapor]

Huh?

[swift mango]

She could be a 5s CDR with 25% CS and 200% ammo. Trust.

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[strong hull]

Mega bad

Like very

A lot

Even mica better than her

[upper grove]

I couldn't convert any treasure materials for helm besides some laplace leftovers; for full treasure 3 I need 47 days and RH is currently getting doll mats

@tropic summit DEF might still work dude gets his fix in rookie, I'm not even 1st place there

[unkempt kestrel]

Anyone know what this mean while trying to exchange? My first treasured nikke

[keen vapor]

That's just to convert the excess of one treasure

[unkempt kestrel]

Oh I must max those first before I can exchange?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[unkempt kestrel]

Well that sucks rip

[shell hazel]

yep I need the full 3 per day thing for Helm lol

[keen vapor]

Converting excess sucks? That otherwise will be completely useless?

[graceful grotto]

how many do we need to max out a treasure?

[unkempt kestrel]

I mean requiring the other nikke to be treasure before converting

[shell hazel]

no it means you can't convert in advance

[keen vapor]

160 iirc

[keen vapor]

I didn't said other Nikke

Just finish Helm (max her treasure) then you can convert her excess

[unkempt kestrel]

Yehh sorry I meant I want to convert other nikkes excess without having their treasure because I have a lot of them. Didn’t know that you can’t do that until I’m done with their treasure

[tropic summit]

Oh doesn't sound too bad then

[gaunt cypress]

yeah that suck man, sound:0:5

[keen vapor]

Sound?

[gaunt cypress]

sound:0:2

[umbral crown]

Yes , it sounds 🔊

[tropic summit]

Still remember some friend in highschool finding out what happens clicking on links while in the library

[umbral crown]

What happens?

[tropic summit]

A lesson was learned, to have mute on at all times

[umbral crown]

A grill saying :Aaaaaaahh~~~~

[tropic summit]

A loud moan from a notorious clearly wholesome anime was heard

The dude was red as a tomato

[umbral crown]

Redo of healet

[tropic summit]

It seems you know very good titles

[umbral crown]

probably

[torpid crest]

looking for pvp teams for sp arena i have two that im using but not entirely sure if its best cuz im just following prydwen tier lists (cinderella noise biscuit sbs alice) and (jackal anne miracle fairy rh scarlet emilia) i can level everything up to skill 7 and can synchro like 4 units i have no treasures and just synchrod noah

[keen vapor]

I don't want to watch any other hero anime ever again

[desert tundra]

Are you in your pvp arena bracket for life

[keen vapor]

?

[desert tundra]

Like with the same people

Cuz it would be unfair for me who started playing in 2025 to fight people who started playing in 2023

[keen vapor]

You get paired with the people who created their account around the same time

[glad meteor]

Don’t watch that

@umbral crown

[tropic summit]

if Rosy knows about it, chances are it's already been watched
it's too late

[glad meteor]

Maybe we can save echo

[tropic summit]

already did your teams yesterday, if you missed them or need explanations just ask

#pvp-arena message

[upper grove]

if I have treasure helm later on: lvl her skills 1st (S1 max) or rather max scarlet first?

[keen vapor]

I've been working with Scarlet 777 perfectly all this time

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown tell him

[upper grove]

guess I'll do both 7/7/7 first then helm S1 to 10 for the burst gain

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[keen vapor]

Yes, I would

[swift mango]

10-5-5 is enough for helm

[upper grove]

Helm will never burst in pvp anyway except if I want to nuke someone really hard (maybe with Rosanna?)

[brazen ledge]

hi, ust got og scarlet, new teams ?

[lusty gull]

saved decks page is improved on nikke deck

[keen vapor]

What was your previous Blanc team

Actually, previous 3 teams

[brazen ledge]

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

Well, in theory she will replace Rei.... But the invest diff is too high right now isn't it?

[brazen ledge]

rei is at 38k and scarlet at 23k

[keen vapor]

Sounds high at that synch

[brazen ledge]

for who ?

rei ? she was the only other good dps i had before cindy on this account

i had alice and rei so i invested in her doll

[keen vapor]

Yes, Rei

[brazen ledge]

yes its bc of her doll

[keen vapor]

For now no changes

[brazen ledge]

ok, then just rei for scarlet

[keen vapor]

When you invest Scarlet*

[torpid crest]

o shit mb didnt see, if i built xmaiden and noah where would i place them?

[brazen ledge]

yes obv, i get rrh to 7/7/7 and then its her

i try to get all of my new pilgrims to that lvl of investment

[lunar dirge]

average pvp bracket

[torpid crest]

would noah liter sbs biscuit alice work

[copper goblet]

how should i update this, fell down a few ranks

[coarse lake]

ppl still run the old indom rh setup huh

been a very long time since I've seen one

[copper goblet]

yeah i havent exactly been keeping up with the meta ive just been chilling in 6th place in my league and going "sure"

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor oh right echo, i've the reason why i don't think your indom emi is safe

just got to test that out against my ch1

[lunar dirge]

p2=victim

[tropic summit]

actually not even p2

was a p3

@keen vapor

2.5RL is nasty on her

run her with rapu

[keen vapor]

Rapu didn't work

[tropic summit]

(for your def)

[lunar dirge]

mana

[tropic summit]

or her ye

[keen vapor]

I'm telling you, one buff Emi not strong enough

[tropic summit]

well a dead emi is even less useful

[coarse lake]

rh emi is fine for def they won't even be hitting it when they can hit your other 2 anyway

[tropic summit]

ye other 2 teams are actually even easier

[keen vapor]

How to speed up Noah team

[tropic summit]

get helmT

[coarse lake]

make a better noah team

[tropic summit]

jokes aside, i'm thinking echo def might need to consider 2 2.5RL teams

at the cost of having a 3rd team just padded

[keen vapor]

I have no rocks

[oak gale]

@tropic summit thoughts on mana?

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[oak gale]

i see , i did get her just now from the gacha plus flora

[tropic summit]

btw the teams of yesterday didn't work?

[keen vapor]

You didn't read my pings at all, didn't you

[tropic summit]

oh my bad you already meant previous teams with this 1

#pvp-arena message

nvm then

[keen vapor]

You didn't read them

Read

[tropic summit]

pls don't hurt me

[tropic summit]

you can make this new T3 (if cp is low due to poor investiment on xmaiden, you can put crown instead for a temporary 4RL)

[keen vapor]

Start from here

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind anis noise
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis emi

cubes:

quantum on centi, anis, jackal
vigor on noise, blanc, biscuit, rapu
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis
s.anis furthermore must've burst lvl 9 and no ammo OL's, if she doesn't meet requirements use SBS instead

notes:

T3 will be the lower CP wise, make sure to invest in them, to boost CP you can use crown instead of emilia temporarely and rotate emi instead of anis

[tropic summit]

roger, i shall

[brisk iron]

So how do the hardcore pvpers think of my D team? Doing pretty well. Guys have any advice to make stronger? Also the one with Tia/Naga are some of my highest CP units. The CP alone carries that team

[tropic summit]

jesus le chirst

[tropic summit]

agreed

yeah scratch those @keen vapor , although i question whether it is possible anymore for you to def, they'll pad 1 team and just commit to the other... i don't really see a chance there

[keen vapor]

He changed def btw

His scar is 2 RL now

[tropic summit]

and your SBS wasn't able to noise noah sbs biscuit anis it right?

[keen vapor]

Well, 2 RL is easy against that scar team ..

[tropic summit]

oh? what do you've in mind 🤔

[keen vapor]

My trusty 2 RL Cindy

[tropic summit]

they got CS% lines on their jack and centi?

[keen vapor]

Iirc yes

Even then, I would fear that Maiden instead of RH

3 clip RL is 2 RL speed

[tropic summit]

hmm

i think they getting 2RL due to feed

both centi and jackal on 17% CS would still be 2.5RL without feed 🤨

what a sneaky burst gen

@lusty gull just remembered what else i wanted to suggest, as addon to those 3v3 (or 5v5 for CA) page/section, if it would count also the feed from opposing team (bullet count)

[tropic summit]

well as long as you can handle post indom scarlet should be fine, the other one i guess you gonna ICBM to oblivion

go get em

[keen vapor]

yes

Emi died as usual

I'm going to equip her the new cube

Not going to gamble doll

[tropic summit]

to splash pre 3RL?

[keen vapor]

Of course new cube didn't work either

[tropic summit]

dafuq they hit like a truck

[keen vapor]

Trash cube

[tropic summit]

but yeah i doubt i'd survive without SR15

[keen vapor]

Time to gamble

But I can't bc I have to get Helm treasure

[tropic summit]

i've to find helm twice, got 1 mileage ready tho

[keen vapor]

Just once

[keen vapor]

Nothing

[coarse lake]

what are you trying

[keen vapor]

Getting Emilia doll to phase 10

[coarse lake]

just use jackal with emi

he's just using the cn default

[keen vapor]

I need jackal for my Cindy nuke

[coarse lake]

just run a 2rl noah biscuit bscar to deal with scar

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

appearently his SBS is not enough 🤔

[coarse lake]

should be enough with noah biscuit

[tropic summit]

it has 20% atk OL's so it's peculiar

my own SBS is the same on that aspect

although doll on SR15 and core 2

[coarse lake]

also you really should get helm treasure, better gen + buffer

[keen vapor]

Yeah...

[tropic summit]

oh nvm core 1

[coarse lake]

noah/biscuit/bscar/centi/rumani with some quantums should be fine

[keen vapor]

Not mine

[coarse lake]

or just deal with their cindy team

[tropic summit]

@coarse lake this exact team right?

[coarse lake]

prob need to go 2rl, but sure

[tropic summit]

oh ok so out rapu and in anis

[coarse lake]

a 3rl noah biscuit bscar + buffer should work fine against their cindy

[tropic summit]

~~mica debut ~~

[coarse lake]

noah/biscuit/rapu/bscar/laplace should work fine if worried about noah getting double invuln

[fickle swift]

Do you think this team will force the enemy to use their Noah? I'm betting on scarlet getting Indomitable before nuked lol

[keen vapor]

I won't use lap

[coarse lake]

then use xmaiden

[fickle swift]

This is probably how their attack team are

[ashen ocean]

someone probably already asked but is Mana good for PvP ? her kit sounds good for it, on paper

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[west isle]

is this fine?

[keen vapor]

What do you mean low synch, she will die before she bursts

That's a newbie gimmick

[tropic summit]

hmm you might want to put blanc in p2 so rumani has no chance of stealing indom, although she'll burst and get massive HP increase so it should be fine

[ashen ocean]

so she'll be good but situational ?

[tropic summit]

rapu stuns when she's lower a certain HP threshold, mana revives, rapu falls again, you get sacc + chance of 2 stuns in a row

alex is running funny things on that kind of comp

[keen vapor]

She needs to burst, baka

[lusty gull]

yeah feed count can be useful but i need to think about how to display it because it's only for jackal, also it's annoying to add data

[fickle swift]

Thank youuu

[tropic summit]

hmm then i wonder how he was pulling it off 🤨

i'll edit it for accuracy tho, thanks for pointing it out

[west isle]

ew power issue ig

[keen vapor]

Team 1: too slow, Rumani will die
2:.... Somehow okeyish.... Huh
3: too slow

[west isle]

3 slow with 2 rls and sg?

[tropic summit]

yeah very situational, also should ensure your opponent won't run rosanna as she'd remove iron or kill her downright before she can ress

[west isle]

idk butt Grave in for burst gen

[tropic summit]

ah understandable, let's just add it to the "ideas" then for now

[keen vapor]

Not any RL/SG is good

Most options you picked are mag type, not clip

[lusty gull]

yeah but that list is growing a lot haha

[tropic summit]

although to ensure scarlet works at her best, ensure you get jackal in her team, something like:

scarlet blanc buffer battery jackal

[keen vapor]

Magazine type is slow burst gen @west isle

[west isle]

[lusty gull]

i think the versus feature is the most important thing to do now

[fickle swift]

I've already use her on this team I don't think sbs going to survive without jackal lol

[west isle]

i don't get how to get which type of rl it is

[fickle swift]

Or just swap RH and jackal position and then swap jackal to Emilia ensuring there will still a nuke even if SBS died?

[keen vapor]

Easy, is that RL unit useful? If not then it probably is clip

Jackal has trash skills outside of dividing damage, centi is the same, Anis is the same, Rumani has decent buffs and a taunt but she's the slowest clip RL (still above SG clip)

[tropic summit]

oh i'd love that one

[keen vapor]

SG clip.... They have good kits

[tropic summit]

hmm show me your nikke box by zooming out, that way i've a clear picture and can give you a better suggestion

we can probably improve those teams

[west isle]

Cindi and SBS useful but their gen low no?

And isn't Jackal meta pvp

And same for Sanis who's there mostly for buff Ein because idk what else to put not that much built

[tropic summit]

s.anis is your backline killer, can be run without buff too, works best with stall teams

[tropic summit]

jackal is high on tierlist due to dmg share and gimmick with feeding, while still being a high burst gen on her own

[tropic summit]

cindy has near 0 burst gen, SBS has very poor burst gen due to reduce splash radius pre burst
both are, although, one of the best B3s you can pick from

[keen vapor]

Yep, SBS has "Scar"level of burst gen
Cindy is just like MG (nothing)

[fickle swift]

Here's my Nikke

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[keen vapor]

Outside of that, her kit is trash

You'll never see her in PvE

[fickle swift]

Part 2

[west isle]

So that's why i doesn't got logic of defining clip or mag by char being useful at all

[fickle swift]

The team I'm running rn

[tropic summit]

i think this would drastically help you understand burst gen, look at the burst gen calc tab

#pvp-arena message

[keen vapor]

Helm top tier

[west isle]

i don't understand what this mean

pepega brain

[tropic summit]

yeah we can go for 3 solid teams

[tropic summit]

centi naga cind emi noise (if CP isn't too impacted, replace naga with rumani, rumani goes p5, noise p1, centi p2)
scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis la+

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, biscuit, rapu
resil on s.anis
temperance on noah
anyone else give them highest available lvl cube

[keen vapor]

Is speed

[tropic summit]

additionally your well invested la+ will hurt

you've also more options though, if you start seeing ur def falling we could turn a team into indom emi