pvp-arena

[swift mango]

Grave hit pretty hard on single target though. So could do nice clear up job after wipe.

[coarse lake]

maybe, but such a team usually dies fast after burst if they can't kill with nuke

so pre-nuke dmg is what matters, and grave probably does nothing

should be basically a regular ar at that point

[brittle hill]

Scarlet, Blanc, Xmaiden, Anis, Liter
Noise, Cinderella, Biscuit, Naga, Twinkling Soda
no team 3

actually team 3 would just be your campaign comp temporary, you still lose

[lunar dirge]

44% atk Mari is goofy ngl

[quick lake]

Im at 30% now

[quick lake]

Im... alive?

[lunar dirge]

Seems like

It's another bug

[quick lake]

Wait, theres a new cindy bug and she's not doing dmg??

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

#pvp-arena message

[quick lake]

Huh what even

Buggerella lives

[swift mango]

Idk if I should keep her on Defense next season...

[quick lake]

SU need to get their stuff tgt

Seems to be a Moran and Cindy bugged interaction

[dusk marsh]

tytyy

[sudden badger]

what should my team be in rookie arena?

[brittle hill]

Anis shouldn't steal indom I think. This is really early on so they don't have good pvp teams either

[swift mango]

Grave-Anis-Cindy-RH-Jackal

[frigid jungle]

can anyone help me with a rookie & spa team

[loud sonnet]

Looks like i need to change my cindy team

[quick lake]

Will test more tmr, but seems like Moran vs Cindy always triggers this bug

Idk how Merry “reseted” it. I tried exiting, fighting shooting range, came back and still had the same bug

[rustic sandal]

Hell nah bro is so pro how much money you spent

[frigid jungle]

believe it or not i havent spent a single penny, started day one then quit not long after and continued when dorothy was introduced

[quick lake]

Scarlet Grave RH xMaiden Jackal

[quick lake]

Rookie:
Emilia Blanc RH Centi Jackal
Double check Emilia HP less than RH HP

[frigid jungle]

ya my emilia lower than my rh in HP

[quick lake]

SPA
T1: Scar Centi RH Noir Jackal
T2: Blanc SAnis Biscuit Pepper Drake
T3: Noise Noah Cindy Emilia Liter

Alternative for T2:
Moran Biscuit SAnis Anis Drake

[frigid jungle]

thanks

[quick lake]

Really good units for pvp u have Moran Rosanna too

[frigid jungle]

yes but i dont know how to build a good team tbh im not that into stats that much haha

[tropic summit]

oh so rrh can hit up to p5 afterall 🤔

[quick lake]

At max s3 i think

[tropic summit]

hmm interesting, an alternative to s.anis of sort

and post nuke emi i guess

[quick lake]

Only Blanc + Rapi works though

[tropic summit]

yeah she takes a long time afterall

[umbral crown]

If cindy bugged then time to attack the whale

[glad meteor]

Rosy gets attacked

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[umbral crown]

They do not try

False alarm, sp is closed

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sillyme-silly-me-frenda-seivelun-toaru-gif-1158659789536067723

[keen vapor]

I have one cook on hold since last year

The headache is gone

[keen vapor]

Try these changes

[keen vapor]

I forgot I used ice Maiden twice stupid me

Then this. Tia in last position to avoid delay

Try Scarlet team on rookie and see how good it is with a .5 delay

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Emi

[keen vapor]

Thoughts on my cooking?

I try to increase CP

[umbral crown]

The moran team needs some speed or the moran should be very well invested to live without biscuit

[keen vapor]

We just need her to live till burst

[umbral crown]

Thats also true

Give her tempura

[keen vapor]

tempura

[umbral crown]

Your quatum.lv3?

[umbral crown]

Now you tell me you do not have it

[keen vapor]

Is for another person

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I would

Use Mica instead of Liter if it was for me

[graceful grotto]

is ur mica built?

[keen vapor]

No

[umbral crown]

But if not well invested cp would drop

Fake mica simp

[keen vapor]

Rapi took every mat

[umbral crown]

Echo will put mica aside to invest on rapi

[keen vapor]

[graceful grotto]

echo invest in rapipi is the biggest fake

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[graceful grotto]

i thought you're pvp-exclusive

now he's also doing SR unit

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

IS NOT FOR RAID, IS FOR KRAKEN

[graceful grotto]

you use rapipi on kraken? as b1?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[umbral crown]

Thats too pve

[keen vapor]

I need to cover my skill issue somehow

[umbral crown]

Where is the echo pvp

[keen vapor]

[bleak shale]

I do but it fled up my fight timing

Cuz I was use to different burst cycle

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[graceful grotto]

where liter

[graceful grotto]

i actually using rapipi too now but it also kinda screw up my burst cycle

also using mobile to play, alice aiming the tentacles is hard af lol

i prolly start building ssakura soon lol

[keen vapor]

Somewhere

[keen vapor]

Same

[quick lake]

Comfy s7 kraken with SSak

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

How so

[umbral crown]

Share whole team

[quick lake]

Crown SBS SSak Naga Liter
SBS 63ele 36atk
SSak 95ele 0atk

[keen vapor]

95 ele

[quick lake]

Yeah, very lucky

[bleak latch]

@umbral crown

finally hit 501

[umbral crown]

About time, the gif really helped

I went to 305 with them

[bleak latch]

emilia without buff

[umbral crown]

Op

[gaunt cypress]

you can try bring this delusional girl to get s7 reward easily

[quick lake]

What, why xguillo

[graceful grotto]

instant cdr, i'm not used to it in my kraken run, it sped up my team in their burst so i missed the timing of passing phase 5 and the tentacles kill my naga

[graceful grotto]

what in the blazing hell

[quick lake]

If u run SSak, burst gen is super slow cause no more Alice

[umbral crown]

Good , now give

[graceful grotto]

my grip is my alice cannot kill the tentacles cause i cant aim properly

[umbral crown]

[gaunt cypress]

nah i was joking

[bleak latch]

Emilia Hydrogen Bomb

[quick lake]

Doing so much dmg even with xguillo

[graceful grotto]

[umbral crown]

X.Guillo meta but the world was not ready for this

[graceful grotto]

i can't even score more than 1.8b with sbs alice

[umbral crown]

[graceful grotto]

[quick lake]

[graceful grotto]

ya'll level emilia burst to 10?

[quick lake]

They probably do

[keen vapor]

7

[gaunt cypress]

all ten

[hexed cypress]

Anyone can help with my team building?
Just got some new unit and dont know how to fit them in the team :v

[umbral crown]

Yes, 10/10/10

[gaunt cypress]

try that again against sanis god comp

[graceful grotto]

nice, i left her at 7 10 7 lol

10 is so expensive

[graceful grotto]

you're referring to SP arena or?

[hexed cypress]

Uh def team in Special arena sir

He 's cooking ig😈

[graceful grotto]

hmmm try

Noah-Rapunzel-Cinderella-Xmaiden-Jackal ( can consider Anis for 2RL, but then team will be Noah-Jackal-Anis-Cinderella-Xmaiden)

Moran-Ein-Biscuit-Centi-Noir

Blanc-QEQ-Red Hood-Drake-Pepper

or you can consider

Blanc-Ein-Biscuit-Red Hood-Centi on T2 and CP Pad T3 i guess

[keen vapor]

But you asked for this 2 times already are you still losing? Have you invested clip RL units?

[lunar dirge]

does it matter to leave your xmica unbuilt

?

you're more of a meta simp

[keen vapor]

No, I don't like JKs or bunnies

I never did

[lunar dirge]

but you still built them

if you don't like them,ignore them

[keen vapor]

[unkempt flame]

Ok thank you

[strange terrace]

can someone help me build a pvp team for both arena?

[hazy shore]

hello its been a while, I recently got 3 pvp units (jackal centi rumani) and was wondering if I could build a better lineup thanks

[sudden badger]

what should my teams for sp arena be?

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc pepper rouge jackal
anis biscuit liter privaty sugar
noise dolla b.soda rumani tia

[tropic summit]

post your box of nikke so we can see investiment and what could be improved

[tropic summit]

you don't have any of the following, correct?

centi, rumani, noah

[sudden badger]

i have rumani, not the others you mentioned.

[tropic summit]

hmm ok that's already something, can you put rumani and pepper in synchro?

[sudden badger]

yeah

i emptied most of my synchro slots just to fix my tribe tower stuff, and pvp stuff

[hazy shore]

im just waiting a bit to sync rumani

[slow heart]

how good is rapi in pvp?

[tropic summit]

i guess you've got 2 choices, start with this one:

bay naga sbs pepper anis
ein grave liter xmaiden jackal
tia noise cind rh rumani

alternatively, if you start seeing def losses, we can focus on 2 teams with 1 padded team

sbs grave rh xmaiden jackal
bay anis cind pepper rumani
alice asuka rrh naga modernia

[tropic summit]

the only viable team somewhat is indom team, she's sort of a worse version than post emi nuke or s.anis, also being MG has high feed and poor burst gen

at least so far and from the few tests we've seen

[slow heart]

thx

[tropic summit]

then i assume you've rumani, at least as a battery and not necessarely full invested, getting back to you shortly

[orchid birch]

come over when ya free

[sudden badger]

do you mean maiden when you say 'xmaiden'?
I havent heard of the term xmaiden

[tropic summit]

maiden ice rose

[sudden badger]

o

thanks

[tropic summit]

centi pmaid rh alice jackal
noah noise cind anis naga
blanc xmaiden liter biscuit rumani

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, anis
vigor on noise, biscuit, blanc
temperance on noah

any other nikke use highest available cube

notes:

wishlist scarlet, SBS and rapu

lastly, if CP is not too penalized, you can promote T3 into 3RL by replacing liter with pepper

[upper grove]

this dude malding in rookie while losing 5 attacks in SP back to back

[hazy shore]

this is interesting, do i want mprivaty to burst over rh?

[tropic summit]

yep pmaid has a strong nuke

[hazy shore]

her burst is at 6 do i need more investment?

[strong python]

Been a week and they still haven’t fixed SP arena

[tropic summit]

to give you an example of a pmaid burst

around skill lvl 7 should be enough, you're getting RH to buff her aswell

[hazy shore]

will it work over a 15% deficit?

[tropic summit]

that's a whole different story, i wouldn't generally fight on deficit

only cases that may be possible on deficit is when you've biscuit and a p1 that can soak, or scarlet on deficit CAN still work, but against the right matchup

[hazy shore]

got it thanks

[lunar dirge]

lvl 7 nuke?

[tropic summit]

the one in the vid? ye

b4 i had cindy i used pmaid

this was the matchup

50 levels difference and was still enough 🤔

[rustic sandal]

Is there a chart showing what wins against what for attacking?

[tropic summit]

rheax posted a matrix, else there's also keripo's

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15aPYfbMCB3JSYYgygwMvSLvyPUd_AQ0EhKawRXMsQgQ/edit?gid=1514064848#gid=1514064848

[rustic sandal]

I saw that one but it is said that is focused on defence

I was looking for something that said what is good against teams like noah+biscuit+rh or blanc scarlet

[tropic summit]

well yeah situational on what nikke you own and investiment

on a very general rule, scarlet will win against most setups that have feed of sort, while mostly lose against a noah that can soak the nuke
a cindy 2RL might kill an unprotected noah, so that's another...

lastly s.anis stall teams are generally weak to indom double buff emi

an indom s.anis/SBS may also wipe enemy teams that to not have a p1 invulnerable tank/taunt

in s.anis case, you'd need 1 taunt and 1 attract at least

but again, it's case by case and should be done on the spot once you know what you dealing with

[tulip holly]

Did two matches , first one team 1 lost but forgot to record , this was the second match which won but looked kinda clutch 💀

[tropic summit]

oh interesting on t3

that indeed shouldn't have gone that way

looks like they hit 2.5RL

we had to put RH to push your CP to be within range, but ideally you'd want to 2RL against that then

[nocturne steeple]

Did they intend to have Drake B3 over sanis?

[tulip holly]

I think it was within cp , forgot to check and now I cant

[tropic summit]

yeah with RH you should be

[tropic summit]

@lunar dirge would a 2RL cind nuke on deficit still wipe? or at least kill during and shortly after noah burst? 🤔

[lunar dirge]

i tried on 25% deficit with redhood,and fully proc's nuke left 10% hp on everyone and would kill if at least crit'd once

[nocturne steeple]

Issue with team one here isn’t CP, just that you are bursting late into theirs. You don’t have something like Biscuit to bridge the gap. Second team is bursting Drake into Noah immunity based on burst timing. You can Emilia to dodge if you have it, which will kill after Noah immunity, or you’d wanna burst with sanis to assure a kill after immunity versus wasting the burst window.

I’d suggest just ignoring team 3 and stacking teams 1 and 2

[tulip holly]

Yeah team 2 is just rando right now

[tropic summit]

team 1 has sacc, the moment you kill a nikke rosanna procs
team 2 was skipped
team 3 was supposed to hit 3RL, but enemy team hits 2.5RL from feed and possibly CS%

[nocturne steeple]

I've never seen any PvP gurus suggest skipping on Noah over Scarlet

Scarlet is always a terrifying matchup. Especially when she has xanne juicing her

[keen vapor]

Anne match ups are so easy

[nocturne steeple]

I mean, you just need to watch the video and understand on paper that matchup was not going to work

Easy or not, its subjective to the individual. Running Cindy into OG Scarlet feels suicidal

Especially considering Noah and RH are not enough burst gen for that comp

[lunar dirge]

(((don't let them know about mari pepper,cuz the only way to win is to 2 rl noah this)))

[keen vapor]

[glad meteor]

Xanne CS?

[lunar dirge]

or laplacet but that's gay

[glad meteor]

Noise cindy might win against it

[lunar dirge]

it's 2rl

against 1 ar+any rl with extra proc

[glad meteor]

Pepper and scar will feed

[lunar dirge]

true,but laplacet variation will give guaranteed kill on p1+p2

[bleak latch]

scarlet not linking with jackal?

[lunar dirge]

while not feeding

[bleak latch]

mean while noise/noah link with jackal

[lunar dirge]

possible if 0 atk ol scar and cores on noise

[lunar dirge]

noise cindy might still win from laplacet if only you use 3 clip rl

and that's way too high of a price

[glad meteor]

Noise centi cindy xmaiden jackal

[lunar dirge]

40 shots to be 2rl

[glad meteor]

Yeah, 4 pepper shots

[lunar dirge]

or 30

[lunar dirge]

loses to laplacet variation which i mentioned

[bleak latch]

[lunar dirge]

and scar and mari are p1 p2 linked

[glad meteor]

If noise bursts in time it could go either way

Time to roll CS

Maybe I roll CS on jackal later, but I’m tired. Progress for OL is slow and with cp changes. PvP is shit

[lunar dirge]

actually

[glad meteor]

Gotta roll some non optimal lines just to cp pad

[lunar dirge]

it depends of centi's survival in a team you suggested

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[lunar dirge]

and she will be unliked + at p2

so full brunt of laplacet

[glad meteor]

What if my cindy has shit ols

[keen vapor]

Alex can read feeding

[lunar dirge]

10 shots=3,55 gen

it's ez

[lunar dirge]

are you willing to brick yourself?

[glad meteor]

But yeah, it’s a soft counter. Wouldn’t rely on it on offensive perspective unless i have 2 guaranteed wins on other team

[glad meteor]

That’s the thing, I’m already bricked

1 attack ol cindy

[lunar dirge]

[lunar dirge]

mari provides a bit of ridiculous power up for nukes as a single b2 buffer

i feel like she's a bit underrated

[glad meteor]

I’m a hater for attack damage buffs with doll damage reduction

[lunar dirge]

44% atk mari goes brrr

[glad meteor]

Apparently if there’s a jackal link. Mari counts jackal link as 1 unit

[lunar dirge]

you mean the damage will ignore it?

[glad meteor]

I think it only activates one time between the 3 units

Merry knows better though

[oblique magnet]

ssr rapi has summoned a 4th whale into my pvp bracket

[bleak latch]

she good in pvp?

i just crushed flexing one in my bracket

[oblique magnet]

i'm not sure - but they spent a lot of money and spiked up in CP, lol.

[bleak latch]

she will just feed to scarlet pretty well

[glad meteor]

Technically she has less feed than sgs in 2rl since mgs have windup, but it’s over for her after that

[umbral belfry]

advice on teams for sp arena please? thanks!

[fringe coyote]

PvP team suggestion? also have D-wife. Thank you

[tropic summit]

noise naga xmaiden anis dkw
centi SBS blanc liter maiden
moran bay alice drake tia

notes: wishlist rumani, jackal, noah, scarlet, cindy, biscuit

get your team revised once you find any of the above, as they can be upgraded

[umbral belfry]

ty!

[tropic summit]

can you put rumani and pmaid in sychro?

[river moat]

is dolla or r:rh a part of the pvp meta?

[graceful grotto]

no for dolla, rrh can be dps

[river moat]

cool what kinda nikke would rrh replace?

[tulip holly]

What's the plan at the end then

[coarse lake]

?

[tropic summit]

poli rumani sbs biscuit anis
scarlet naga liter miaden noir
modernia alice cind blanc rrh

notes: wishlist noah, jackal, centi, noise
T3 is atm pure padding, lack of batteries

get your team revised once you find any of the above, T3 will benefit the most

[coarse lake]

atk dmg has nothing to do with dmg reduction

[glad meteor]

Damage taken reduces Damage reduction

[tropic summit]

the plan would be to get you to 2RL or 2.5RL on T3, e.g. getting OL CS% lines on your batteries, without getting CP padded meanwhile

if we are to remove RH, you will get padded although we could hit 2.5RL, still probably less risky than having RH solo like in your vid

[fringe coyote]

ah yes ill do so

[fringe coyote]

thank you very much!

[coarse lake]

yes except there's only 1 source of dmg taken

dmg taken > atk dmg >>>> atk% for most units

and the difference isn't that big, if blanc had atk dmg instead not much changes except she buffs a tiny bit less

[glad meteor]

I think it matters when moran nuking, since I’m scarless. So i have less ways to deal damage to sanis

Redhood blanc isn’t enough for my bsoda to full nuke with 65.07 ele, i still need more

[coarse lake]

yes dmg taken is like >>> atk dmg when dealing with high invest moran

[river moat]

in these two teams would rapiRH fit anywhere?

[coarse lake]

anyone got a bracket with noise/noah/sanis/biscuit/jackal of some sort

[keen vapor]

Someone said Moran?

[coarse lake]

I need test vids of rapi/blanc/rh/flex/jackal against it

[coarse lake]

can you fit in crown

[glad meteor]

For blanc?

[keen vapor]

I would say no

[coarse lake]

for someone else

[river moat]

aw..ok.

[glad meteor]

The full team i used was

Bsoda blanc redhood emi jackal

[coarse lake]

should still be 3rl when dealing with sanis comp

not that it matters if you're slower

[glad meteor]

I was going up against moran noah sanis

If moran biscuit i use cindy

[coarse lake]

oh

yeah then remove blanc for crown

good bit more dmg, might be enough

well assuming bsoda nuke gets s1 bonus

[glad meteor]

The damage will be reduced by like 50%

Oh

Wouldn’t work against noah, probably fine against moran biscuit

[coarse lake]

too slow?

[glad meteor]

Yeah, full team I went up against was

Moran noah sanis biscuit anis

[coarse lake]

you should still get enough feed for 2rl

minimum 21 feed in 2rl time, throw on a few quantums

do you remember exactly how much dmg your other comp did to sanis

[glad meteor]

I’ve got a vid

Team 2

[coarse lake]

so front number is 22896

try it with crown to see if s1 is in time

although I'm leaning towards no

[glad meteor]

If the other 2 teams are free I’ll try

This guy’s got 1 more chip and is changing def all the time

[coarse lake]

how much ele is your laplace

[glad meteor]

Don’t hav invested

[coarse lake]

oof

if biscuit died would that help

you can change order to bsoda/emi/blanc/rh/jackal so that on her second rl, emi hits biscuit

[loud sonnet]

I have someone with this team but the cp is too low

[glad meteor]

If emi triggers biscuit s2 on noah moran pre noah, could win with scalter

[coarse lake]

was thinking more on emi chipping biscuit a bit so biscuit might die to nuke

they're not running proper jackal sanis either

the only chance it has of working is if they know how to run a proper jackal sanis

p1 linked noise with taunt prio

[fringe coyote]

quick question is pvp something thats really worth in this game?

i like it its fun but just wanna know how much should i invest into it

[loud sonnet]

Might cost your sanity but worth it

2k-3k per 2 weeks

[coarse lake]

try it with rapi instead of bsoda

[glad meteor]

Min invest and chill in d1

[fringe coyote]

XD average pvp experience i used to go crazy on destiny 2 pvp

[coarse lake]

once your rapi is at least like 50% ele

speed won't matter, just hope you got the dmg

[glad meteor]

Imagine getting what i want on OL

[coarse lake]

burst needs to be higher than 7

[tulip holly]

so I should Ol the characters with quantum cube then and aim for CS?

[glad meteor]

Is it fine at 7, or needs to be higher than 7

[coarse lake]

7 doesn't reliably hit p5

[loud sonnet]

Currently rapi OL lines

[lone sequoia]

rip

need elemental damage

[coarse lake]

not too bad

left 2 pieces are able to be min-maxed without being too expensive

right 2 need full reroll

[lone sequoia]

burst lv?

[loud sonnet]

All 10

[umbral crown]

Good

[swift mango]

Today I wasted 10 rock rolling for CS on Anis. The first roll was ele-critdmg-Atk ofc useless on her and low rank so I skipped. Then 9 more rock and no charge speed.

End with nothing.

[umbral crown]

The price to pay is not cheap

[loud sonnet]

Keep?

[lone sequoia]

you can take the elemental damage then reroll again

[coarse lake]

yes

no change

ammo + ele >> atk if you wanna settle

but if you wanna get all 3 on there... gotta keep full rerolling

[swift mango]

I already have better ranks 2 line t11 on her.

[loud sonnet]

Ok gonna roll again

[lone sequoia]

is fine for the moment

can 2RL rapi oneshot noah?

like rapi/blanc/x-buffer-burst gent/anis-centi/jackal

i know that her S2 proc can oneshot noah but the initial hit before biscuit S2

[swift mango]

Should be. It's 2000%+ nuke. Nothing would survive that but biscuited defender

[coarse lake]

[lone sequoia]

too much dmage is bad and too low is bad

[coarse lake]

yeah it might happen

2rl means less time to ramp, so rapi might not do enough dmg

rh won't be hitting noah, rest of your units do peanuts to p1

[lone sequoia]

but xmica is enough to reach 2RL with sanis feed in jackal?

or need centi-anis-rumani?

also, jackal buff rapi initial hit?

[coarse lake]

I don't think so

[lone sequoia]

no stat priority

[coarse lake]

if you can get the nuke off before invuln proc you're probably fine

ele adv and already close to half hp

[lone sequoia]

let me try with anis-centi

but burst lv7 is too low

[coarse lake]

rapi/centi/rh/anis/jackal should be fine when dealing with sanis

no way noah survives it without invuln

[lone sequoia]

what about the other units?

[coarse lake]

well...

[lone sequoia]

biscuit b2

[coarse lake]

that could be a problem yeah

but they don't have invuln, so rapi might kill fast enough

swap centi out with noah then

should be plenty of time

[lone sequoia]

well, more free points to the other guy

[coarse lake]

lifestealing sanis can live aoe, but not attachment dmg

[lone sequoia]

3 quantum is 193, enough to 2RL with feed?

[coarse lake]

sanis team is minimum 14 feed in 2rl

[lone sequoia]

too much damage, biscuit s2 before rapi b3

[coarse lake]

hmm

yeah not sure if there's anything you can do here

hmm....

maybe take out rh

[lone sequoia]

rh hit p5 in atk

[coarse lake]

if it's close enough, rh makes the short time from b1 to b3 rapi do a lot more dmg

which is also when rapi is the most ramped up

[lone sequoia]

iron RLs are the problem

no more hits

[coarse lake]

do you have vid of it

I wanna see when s2 procced

[lone sequoia]

maybe xmica-rh swap is enough damage at burst lv10

before b3

[coarse lake]

I'm thinking just going with no buffer

rapi/noah/anis/rumani/jackal

ok not rumani if she has ele

centi

or maybe rapi/blanc/centi/anis/jackal

b2 buffer should help out a bit since less time rapi has to shoot buffed regular shots

[lone sequoia]

maybe my RLs are too strong

[coarse lake]

rapi/noah/anis/ein/jackal is prob the lowest upfront dps comp here

ein shouldn't buff or do dmg to noah

anis is most likely weakest rl you got

[lone sequoia]

i think should be a 2RL +blanc...

[swift mango]

Just do a 2rl team. 3rl won't cut it

[lone sequoia]

that is the problem... too much damage in 2RL

3RL can oneshot noah before the 2nd proc, now is 2RL test

[coarse lake]

then rapi/blanc/centi/anis/jackal

[swift mango]

Then no ways you could do that with 3rl teamd

[coarse lake]

or rapi/noah/anis/ein/jackal

[swift mango]

Ah

[lone sequoia]

2 s2 wasted there

[coarse lake]

yeah they didn't have back to back invuln, so wasn't that big of a threat

[swift mango]

If you proc the 1st that fast then I don't see how you could NOT proc in 2rl lol... Good luck.

[lone sequoia]

2RL i tried to oneshot noah before 1st biscuit S2, 3RL+ before the 2nd proc

[swift mango]

Yeah

[lone sequoia]

too much or low is bad for rapi

damage

[coarse lake]

maybe try to get to close to 1.75rl

with sg feed and enough clip rls, might happen?

[loud sonnet]

What should i test here?

[coarse lake]

just test that

see your dmg on cindy and especially rh

[lone sequoia]

that team look easier without noise or rapu

[swift mango]

Needs 3 clip RL with 18% CS at least, good luck

[lone sequoia]

the 2nd biscuit proc in the 1v1 should be interesting

wait, cindy proc biscuit

[coarse lake]

it should still go to noah I think, unless you got enough ele to drop cindy to 50% with a single aoe

[loud sonnet]

Dead

[lone sequoia]

after noah burst

[coarse lake]

cindy too beefy

plus your last aoe was a crit, if it wasn't, it would have taken 1 more aoe to kill her

how much ele

[loud sonnet]

10% only

[wheat heart]

does anyone know why sometimes my 2RL team can't burst before a 3RL noah team? like what's causing the RNG? is it jackal link feeding them to 2.5 or is it shots whiffing?

[lone sequoia]

the other problem was no sanis, sanis wipe your team before noah burst end

[wheat heart]

my charge speed is insanely cracked so i know it's not me losing CS

[coarse lake]

ah

ig it depends on noah beefiness and biscuit s2 lvl

[coarse lake]

what are the teams

[lone sequoia]

what 2rL team?

[coarse lake]

a noise would mean they easily win against rapi with the heals

maybe even non-bursting rapu is enough

[swift mango]

Why so long no reply? 😔

[wheat heart]

Scarlet / Emilia (25.3% CS) / xAnne / xMica 10 Skill 2 / Jackal (22% CS level 7 quantum)

I also tried it with Centi 4x CS lines instead of xMica just to test and it would still lose out.

[lone sequoia]

makima as a filler after rapi kill p2~p5(?

[coarse lake]

[lone sequoia]

are you sure that is 2RL?

[wheat heart]

yes with 25% emilia it is

[swift mango]

Emilia CS is from OL only or you count her s1?

[wheat heart]

OL only S1 is level 10

[coarse lake]

try a 4rl comp

[lone sequoia]

do you have a video? i want to know if emi hit her 3rd shot before 2RL

[coarse lake]

swap out emi for someone slower

[loud sonnet]

Replace emi with lap

[swift mango]

1 black line is 6.09. So you mena you have 2 black line, 2 blue line CS and Adjustant lv7 on her?

[coarse lake]

was lucky enough to 1 shot noah with grenade before she got 2nd invuln

doesn't seem like there's a consistent way to achieve it

[loud sonnet]

I got dc

[wheat heart]

that might be the problem. if em whiffs one of 3 shots it's not 2RL anymore?

[coarse lake]

what's the enemy team

[wheat heart]

but i thought RL whiffs were patched?

[swift mango]

Scarlet and xmica could feed 3rl Jackal team to 2.5+RL yeah...

There is sometimes Jackal team hit way above their speed rank for some reason.

[wheat heart]

that sounds like the problem. prob no way around that either besides rosanna which makes you 3RL

[wheat heart]

if you're asking me it's Noah / Biscuit / RH / Emilia / Jackal

[lone sequoia]

whiff/dodge between hits are more rare than before, but reload dodge/whiff window is stronger...not something that you can get before 6RL or low ammo scarlet reload

[coarse lake]

if that's a 21% cs emi they're already ~2.5rl

with no cs on anyone else

[wheat heart]

that's true prob why em is on the team

[coarse lake]

I would just do a 3rl emi nuke

[wheat heart]

but i can sometimes win it's 50/50

[lone sequoia]

you never get the same amount of burst with jackal/scarlet teams

[swift mango]

Eh then this isn't about feed but Enemies CS getting to 20%+ on each RL.

A 0.3rl slower Noah should be able to catch your Scarlet

[lone sequoia]

wtf

[loud sonnet]

My last test got me dc

[coarse lake]

do you get to keep the chibis

[coarse lake]

also wtf is rh doing to that bent over cindy

actually can't tell if she's bent over or not

is this bit her butt

[wheat heart]

i doubt they went that hard for all 5 units but i guess it's possible. is 20% a good baseline for RL CS%?

[swift mango]

Maybe your RL too strong and destroy their cover with crits on 2 first shot RL then having reduced burst gen on the later shots? Making your team 3rl instead?

[coarse lake]

they prob just need some cs on noah and biscuit

do scarlet counters count as feed for jackal

[loud sonnet]

This position

[coarse lake]

oh

[swift mango]

Cover count burst Charge as well. Enemies without cover reduced your RL Burst gen by half

Biscuit ded to a crit also reduced your burst charge speed by half

That would explain the 50/50

[coarse lake]

I don't see them doing enough to break cover in 2rl

[swift mango]

They need 3 hit for their 2rl team, not 2. And biscuit ded early it not that rare

Crit increase normal dmg in arena by 5 times even

[wheat heart]

here is a video of when it works. couldn't get a capture of it not working today and ran out of free tries. cover seems intact.

[swift mango]

Cover and biscuit needing survive so it would work ofc.

A few Crit could change that

[lone sequoia]

scarlet OL?

[wheat heart]

i gotcha. so maybe i'm critting the cover on the times im losing

[graceful grotto]

that's a filthy strong emilia wtheck

[coarse lake]

I don't think your emi's 3rd hit was in time

her third hit mid travel

you're already bursting

[wheat heart]

could be animation delay though

[coarse lake]

put her in p4/p5 to be a tad bit faster

[lone sequoia]

or the normal rng feed with scarlet/jackal

[coarse lake]

you got a lot of your gen from feed

[white crow]

Any teams for PVP?

[coarse lake]

I think it's also a case of 25% OL cs emi not being true 2rl either

[wheat heart]

i'll try P4/P5

[coarse lake]

make xmica p2 for best odds

your rls at p3-p5

[grand plinth]

oh geez I dont know anything about pvp teams or team building and I dont have scarlet or jackal so all of the guides ive read are not helping ! pls help a gamer out, I just unlocked sp arena so now i know even less about what im doing

[swift mango]

This isn't the case of not hitting fast enough, because if it was, then there won't be the range 50/50 win rate but straight up lose.

You could see the cover very close to breaking in the video. A crit in Arena increase your normal attack dmg by about 5 times. A few more Crit in and the cover busted

[lone sequoia]

1.5 for crits

[coarse lake]

no it wasn't in time either

[coarse lake]

watch the cover hits on p3, the third cover hit was after reaching full bar

[swift mango]

Idk how it work. But my RH was criting for 800k from her normal 150k hitting last time I tried to spot a crit.

[dire belfry]

@coarse lake what are your 3 general attack teams?

[coarse lake]

yeah noticeable speed up for emilia, but not sure if it mattered

have to look at it frame by frame

[lone sequoia]

you can check elemental damage, crit damage, destroy bonus and burst bonus++++++ the invest of the enemy unit

[coarse lake]

third cover hit on p3 vs when you reach full bar

[lone sequoia]

you can't deal the same amount of damage to 2 different units

[coarse lake]

yeah full bar was still before third emi hit

but closer now

[swift mango]

RH was hitting p5 so alone so hard to miss.

[coarse lake]

you know what this means, go for 3 black cs lines

[lone sequoia]

time to count scarlet S2 procs

[wheat heart]

oh lord

[coarse lake]

yeah the rng is prob due to a combo of scarlet and jackal feeds

try p5 emi

[wheat heart]

jackal p4?

[coarse lake]

yeah

also possible some weird cs stuff is still going on

based on calc, 25% total cs should be enough... but factor in cover time... you prob need more

there's also just travel time, could be that

[swift mango]

This one one Noah survive thanks to biscuit though, not her bursting.

[wheat heart]

yeah for some reason i keep winning now but i lost five in a row where noah bursted and everyone survived scar ult

[coarse lake]

prob the better positioning meant less rng needed

[coarse lake]

that was it I think

[lone sequoia]

hit before now

[coarse lake]

I think emi third hit was the last gen you needed

just fast enough

[lone sequoia]

scarlet +3 procs in the other videos

[wheat heart]

so before it was scarlet proc getting gen and now it's em 3 hit in time

[coarse lake]

seems like it

this setup should be more reliable

[wheat heart]

why does p5 attack faster? feel like it'd have more travel to other side

[coarse lake]

closer to their noah

less time needed for proj to travel

so your third hit lands faster

[wheat heart]

gotcha gotcha

[lone sequoia]

lets say that add like .6~8 cs to the unit

[swift mango]

Somehow I Emi did do the animation of her 3rd shot at exactly 2rl when you get to burst but no bullet fly out in this video.

Maybe animation bug?

[coarse lake]

no it's here

honestly easier to just watch the p3 cover hits

[swift mango]

No bullet fly out so ofc no cover hit. Her next hit was same speed if not slower than Jackal 3rd shot.

[coarse lake]

the bullet is there

it's the icicle

[swift mango]

Saw it, sorry

[wheat heart]

would rolling higher CS on xAnne help at all?

[coarse lake]

in this situation, no

she needs 3 hits in 2rl as well

[lone sequoia]

against more feed? probably

[coarse lake]

does xmica have quantum btw

[wheat heart]

not right now

[lone sequoia]

i don't use that team, so i don't know how is the synergy against other weapons

[coarse lake]

you're quite close to being somewhere around 1.75rl

[swift mango]

Did you use Adjustant cube or quantum or Emilia?

[coarse lake]

third emi hit only provided a tiny fraction

if you could reach full bar without it, that's much faster

[wheat heart]

adjustant on em

[glad meteor]

Link xmica scar

[lone sequoia]

atk lines... if no crit maybe not enough damage

[glad meteor]

Then if jackal p3, emi hits all 3

[lone sequoia]

scarlet need more atk then

more feed rng

[wheat heart]

i could try quantum on xmica or xanne

[lone sequoia]

xmica better than xanne

[swift mango]

Why more ATK cause more feed?

[lone sequoia]

sorry, i said that because emi atk lines, xmica-scarlet link need more atk in xmica something that is hard because emi have atk lines

less atk =less cheap damage=less damage

[swift mango]

Yeah, nothing to do with burst gen

[lone sequoia]

at that point you have to count the base atk for each* interaction, normal hit crit or shared damage

[swift mango]

Enemy Noah P1 so xmica, and scarlet give no feed. The only feed would be from Scarlet s2 which just one attack. Enemy team basically earn zero to 1 jackal s1 at best.

[lone sequoia]

we were talking about scarlet-xmica-jackal link P1~P3 and getting hit by enemy emi

[coarse lake]

yeah that would be the optimal case

but to get xmica higher atk than emi is a bit yikes

[wheat heart]

alright i tried quant on xmica and got a loss finally

[coarse lake]

hmm

did you go faster, or somehow emi got slow

her third hit is after full bar

[swift mango]

Nvm

[keen vapor]

Mica

[coarse lake]

or did they simply get more scarlet procs so more feed, so they were a bit faster

full bar at 45 scar ammo left this time

[lone sequoia]

3 procs again

[coarse lake]

did the enemy get faster

[lone sequoia]

yep, now jackal p3

[swift mango]

Maybe Scarlet counter too much and earn them one more Jackal s1. Maybe

[keen vapor]

Micaaaaaaaa

[coarse lake]

I feel like this is a situation where you simply run a different comp if you want consistent wins

too much rng going around for 100% win rate

[lone sequoia]

it looks interesting

[swift mango]

Build her then

[keen vapor]

[lone sequoia]

he wants to use her debuff dispel

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956169630400016384/1322996349809070160/1115522135276933200.gif

[swift mango]

Yeah, try to make your xmice burst after Enemies Blanc then. Oh wait!

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[wheat heart]

it's more for SP defense where they can only use one noah but rookie is best for testing 😮

just trying to understand the mechanics since on paper it should always win but isn't

[swift mango]

Noah humm.. They could do a Rossanna on this no?

[lone sequoia]

too much rocks for me to try that team with emi

[coarse lake]

for sp def they just run 2rl noah

[glad meteor]

3 rl noise noah biscuit dps could survive?

[wheat heart]

xmica double buffer damage i think kills it

since you get mica and anne buff to scar ult

[glad meteor]

Outside of scar blanc redhood i don’t know what 2rl nuker has full nuke

[glad meteor]

I think Xmica atk buff was low last I checked

[swift mango]

Noise need to trigger Abit faster than 3rl to catch the nuke. Otherwise, it's just the whole team face tanking the nuke without any buff.

No different than a 5rl team

[lone sequoia]

3rd hit

[glad meteor]

Yeah, since the team isn’t exactly 2RL, there’s a higher chance noise goes off.

[wheat heart]

feel like rosanan would slow it way down to not catch scar before burst but maybe

[lone sequoia]

well, some units can just tank that team

[swift mango]

2 clip RL with 17% CS should be enough for Rossanna to catch. Even with Rossanna+Cindy+Biscuit as the other 3. And no Sarc.

[glad meteor]

Xmaiden safest I guess

Defender unit

Low feed

[wheat heart]

i can test it against noise teams tomorrow

[glad meteor]

We can probably just see the numbers the nuke provide and do the math

[wheat heart]

well my xmica is only at 8 S3 and 0OL armor so room to grow

[glad meteor]

What sync are you

[wheat heart]

454

the issue is if i can't get reliable 2RL with xmica then might not be worth it to spend more books

[glad meteor]

Is this the nuke

3,083,008

[keen vapor]

What about skill 2

[wheat heart]

10

[glad meteor]

Doll can help with xmica atk buff too

Since caster’s attack

[keen vapor]

......

[wheat heart]

yeah she has room to grow for sure. just wanted to test the speed first

since it doesn't matter if it gets blocked

[wheat heart]

does this only show up to their max HP? like could it be doing more but capped at remaining HP left?

[tropic summit]

in a scenario where mica casts her B1 at 4RL against an emi blanc rh on 3RL... would she remove indom from emi? 🤔

@swift mango @keen vapor ^

[swift mango]

This is a thing?

[wheat heart]

i don't know. just asking

because i think 3 mill wouldn't be enough to one shot a maxed RH at my syncro

should be around 4 mil

HP

and most people have RH maxed

my RH is 4.1 mil HP so 3 mil nuke wouldn't do it

[lone sequoia]

that team is good enough to face random opponents, we don't know how CA will be or if it will have a random match making, but against 5 teams i would say it win against 2 or kill critical units in their burst chain

[swift mango]

She dispel the dmg debuff of Blanc on allies. Not the indom on enemies.

[glad meteor]

Nah

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Emilia in jackal link also is electric weak so helps with the nuke

[swift mango]

This could help bring 2 buff Emi to 1 buff Emi though but should still wipe the glass Cannon Scarlet team.

[tropic summit]

yeah, would need a different kind of team to survive that

plus mica being B1 means you can't use noise in that team

maybe a Bay or jackal linked units 🤔

[swift mango]

At this point just build your Ade

[tropic summit]

yeah i guess or just throw a moran and bay in

[coarse lake]

I think it's possible to dispel indom

iirc I've seen a setup where it has happened, but in practice you'll never do it

[tropic summit]

le Eon plot twist

[coarse lake]

esp with how many buff sources we got now

[tropic summit]

what would it be out of curiousity?

[coarse lake]

but maybe I'm hallucinating, it was a while ago

I think just a slow enough comp to b1 after they b2, and the blanc team having very few buffs

[swift mango]

You need someone that could dispel buff on enemy. Not debuff on Allies.

[coarse lake]

yeah

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

xmica won't work

[wheat heart]

yeah mainly using xmica as double buff

[coarse lake]

I might be thinking about xmica dispelling dmg taken from blanc actually

[wheat heart]

not for dispel

[glad meteor]

Only ros has dispel enemy buffs

[lone sequoia]

the stun lock against blanc?

[coarse lake]

again, a very long time ago, so barely remember anything

[tropic summit]

scratch the idea then

[swift mango]

Well, Rossanna can dispel 1RL Blanc on p1.

[wheat heart]

the goal was for this team to burst before indom happens at 2RL

[coarse lake]

what are you dealing with

I would simply outsustain blanc setups rather than try to outspeed

or skip bc they're more of a pain to deal with than other setups

[swift mango]

I meant 1RL Blanc team. Lol

[wheat heart]

its a defense team not an attack and i know there are counters, just trying to make it difficult for the attacker

[lone sequoia]

the stun against blanc where her burst didn't cast?

[coarse lake]

that does ring a bell, it might be that

it's a while ago ok

[glad meteor]

I was thinking of a viper p2 sac team earlier to beat scar mirrors

Scar viper xanne ros jackal

Viper sac lowers rl gen

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

just know that even if possible and done before, don't bother trying for it, too niche of a matchup

[coarse lake]

that's basically just mast sac

[glad meteor]

True, but without sync lowering

[coarse lake]

viper has another issue of feeding them

you should give them a hit or two worth of feed before rosa disconnects

[glad meteor]

Since water weak in assuming she get’s cooked by s2

Yeah, depends how strong there scar is, and ele lines

[coarse lake]

I only run p2 sac teams when dealing with sanis

sanis s2 proc + usually a lot of electric rls in the team + usually barely 3rl + emi works as gen as well as sac

[glad meteor]

I used to run 4 nikke against sanis when not cooked by combat power

[lone sequoia]

bsoda times

[wheat heart]

@coarse lake do you think the RNG could be their own jackal link, like if scar is proccing counters against linked nikkes vs not linked nikkes they could get 3x burst on the linked counters

since both videos had 3 counter procs

[coarse lake]

probably

[wheat heart]

would be better to try and test against a noah without jackal but can't find that in rookie

[swift mango]

Viper treasure Lv15 but no OL?

[lone sequoia]

neve OL

[glad meteor]

Just OL for cp pad. She dies to scar s2, enemy rls gen halve.

[swift mango]

Did it work?

[glad meteor]

I don’t have scar

I did a team against god scar with quency sac

[lone sequoia]

like all other sac that don't use lv1~199 unit depends in the damage of the enemy team

you can use weak elements, weapon, or SR units

[swift mango]

How about using lv200 unit instead?

[lone sequoia]

you drop the cp too much

[swift mango]

But it's not 1-199

[lone sequoia]

well, if you don't want those resource back you can go for lvl200

still the cp drop a lot at higher synchro

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Aren't only the first 5 lv200 got locked?

[glad meteor]

A while ago on a third team with remaning units. Luckily only scar died from ros

[lone sequoia]

i don't remember trying to lvlup a 6th unit to 200

stop at 199 then refund the core dust

[swift mango]

So anyone can confirm if you could reset 6th level 200 or not?

[glad meteor]

I don’t think so

But can’t confirm, i remember the notice where it tells us it’s perma

[swift mango]

A window should pop out to warn you if it did

Anyway, it's time the granny retired at top meta in this game.

Rapi just power creep her in every almost everything.

Arena player having zero reason to OL her now.

[quick lake]

Doubt so. Locks at 200

I didnt expect to see another 25% cs Emi

[glad meteor]

Main reason I think of liter use over red hood is when redhood burst chain interferes with blanc

[swift mango]

P1 linked Liter

[glad meteor]

Liter blanc emi crown jackal

[swift mango]

Put Emi to p2 for more feed

[glad meteor]

I haven’t ran it though, since redhood stronger

[swift mango]

Liter would lose lose you the Jackal mirror because she feeds

[glad meteor]

Yeah, she’s situational

Stronk buffer, but high feed and low gen

[swift mango]

So just not upgrade her but Pepper instead

[glad meteor]

pepper

I was thinking of upgrading pepper for moran biscuit. Until i lost against scalter using that comp

[swift mango]

I was thinking of Moran Biscuit until I lost against ScarJack

F4y.

[glad meteor]

Yeah, moran biscuit is scar blanc redhood jack bait

Where’s my scar

[coarse lake]

yup

if you wanna run moran biscuit, better fit a bay or noah in there

[swift mango]

And Still lost against ScarJack

[fringe coyote]

You guys think I can take on 1 or 2 spot

[swift mango]

No

[swift mango]

And I couldn't even get my Anis to 8%...

[quick lake]

Got 5 blanks from today's AI

[swift mango]

I would get CS easily when I reroll my MG or SG though

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

This game is rigged

[glad meteor]

Saving CS for rapi OLs

That’s what happened to me

[keen vapor]

What about less feed with Liter?

[swift mango]

Not by much. Redpipi feed less at 2rl below

[keen vapor]

Mmmmm Bay

[coarse lake]

if only moran wasn't an ar

[swift mango]

But still higher than Liter by a bit.

[keen vapor]

she even got extra burst gen

[swift mango]

Tiny bit

[swift mango]

What extra burst gen?

I don't think her dmg skill could trigger before 3rl in arena

[fringe coyote]

😭😂

[swift mango]

I guess a little is a little

When you build your Arena units but not using them anyway because CP is the best defense.

[steady shard]

How should I arrange this team? Cinderella-Crown-Jackal-Red Hood-Alice.

[swift mango]

Who do you want to burst with?

[steady shard]

Probably nuke first with Cinderella. Red hood burst as backup.

[swift mango]

This team is very hard to be optimal. Is this for rookie or SP?

[steady shard]

Rookie

[swift mango]

Crown+Cinderella+RH+Alice+Jackal.

Or

Jackal+Crown+Cinderella+RH+Alice

The first is stronger but worse burst speed. The 2nd is better burst speed but Can't burst 1 with RH.

Pick your poison

[steady shard]

Got it. Thanks.

[keen vapor]

Why I'm only 20 levels higher

[modern finch]

the teams you gave me last time worked really well honestly, so i’m just wondering now that my box looks a bit better could you help me build some more teams fr sp arena

[swift mango]

Need it ya know

[keen vapor]

Are you made of fire power ?

[keen vapor]

So, Ig I cook from zero right

[modern finch]

it would be appreciated if you can

[keen vapor]

Anis so low CP

[modern finch]

i just took her off synchro

i can put her back

[keen vapor]

At least Ice Maiden is top tier CP

[modern finch]

[keen vapor]

Oh yes please

[modern finch]

[swift mango]

I got one def in against one guy. So let's see if I could get more def in to other guys before I switch out this jank team...

This guy is the strongest guy in my bracket that's not a whale. So a def against him is good.

He isn't my target to def against anyway. Just need to out login him.

[glad meteor]

Cindy hit

[swift mango]

Against Emi ofc

[bleak shale]

morans gun is different, like sw/mihara

[swift mango]

Just to maximize the number

[glad meteor]

Yeah, biggest number i’ve hit so far

Non crit

[bleak shale]

they just decided to give her a longer reload with higher gen

[river moat]

Would noah fit in anywhere here

(third team was auto i think)

[umbral belfry]

sorry to bother, but i recently got viper and rosanna. would they fit anywhere in these teams?

[keen vapor]

@modern finch

[quick lake]

Nah current teams should be fine

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

@swift mango can't use Rapi B1 for Jackal teams

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

I highly suggest to post the Nikkes you have in combat power order so we can cook better teams in horizontal

[swift mango]

Use ur xmica

[keen vapor]

This is not for my account is my MA service

[swift mango]

Use ur pepper

[keen vapor]

He doesn't has one

[river moat]

okay one sec

[keen vapor]

Blood, your turn

[swift mango]

Ur your powarrr

Should be about time you go to sleep huh? G9 echo

[keen vapor]

You know me so well

[river moat]

thank you in advance

• Noise. Just got her

[swift mango]

So do you want to just fit Noah in or maybe rebuild 3 new teams?

[river moat]

whichever is easier for you

my other account's teams that you built have done very well

[swift mango]

Does your Redpipi have Ammo OL line?

[river moat]

I do not know what OL is

[keen vapor]

||Please, both of us knows that those 3 teams are far from solid||

[quick lake]

Pretty sure blood cooked for her before

[swift mango]

Overload gear is t9M gear you upgrade to bind to a character.

You unlock EX intercept after clearing map 16 or 17. You beat it up to stage 7 everyday to farm T9M gear

[river moat]

wait what????

what does the gear look like

[swift mango]

T9M gear Before and after binding.

After binding it became Overload

[river moat]

what

[swift mango]

You could google "Overload gear Nikke Prydwen" to learn more

[river moat]

ohhh wow you can equipment modification something

using custom modules. of which i only have 2

how can i get more

[swift mango]

Beat stage 7 above EX intercept every day

[river moat]

but anyways my rapipi does not have OL gear..it only has OLD gear

[river moat]

i see and its an rng chance right

[swift mango]

Just Google it to learn more. I'm lazy to be a Wikipedia.

Yes.

[river moat]

okay then just the teams please.

[glad meteor]

Once you beat boss in chapter 22 you’ll unlock anomaly interception. You have a chance to get rocks and gear on stage 1

Rates are pretty bad though

[swift mango]

Do you have Quantum cube and what level is it?

I will just assume you don't

[glad meteor]

Better than ex however

[river moat]

you have assumed well

[river moat]

ooo i should do campaign

[glad meteor]

Good luck, main problem i see is chapter 21 boss, that thing can be hell

[river moat]

why does power matter in pvp

[glad meteor]

If a team has 15.41% less power than the other, the weaker team gets a stat deficit

Can just stat deficit most people’s team 3 when new to the game from what I’ve seen on my alt

[river moat]

ohhhh

[swift mango]

This should do for now.

Pepper could replace Grave or Liter. If you want T3 or 1 to burst faster. They would be 3rl burst speed naturally with pepper

As in the picture, T1 speed 4rl but could reach 3rl with enough feed to Jackal s1. T3 is just 3.5rl so a bit slower than 3rl.

Redpipi equipping with bastion. You should have it.

[river moat]

ill equip pipi with bastion

as for the rest of what you said, my english not good enough

[modern finch]

appreciate it

[swift mango]

I mean you could add Pepper to either Team to replace the units I said to make it burst faster if you want. That's it.

[keen vapor]

[fringe coyote]

what deos the rl burstg things mean?

[keen vapor]

Is a time measurement

3 RL is the time to do 3 rocket launcher shots

[river moat]

gotcha thank you

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Not sleep? Then go cook more.

[keen vapor]

I'm getting very sleepy

[river moat]

which nikkes would allow you to more comfortably sit in a stat deficit?

[coarse lake]

comfortably? none

sometimes doable? biscuit

[loud sonnet]

He hit the other guy

[swift mango]

@river moat

Also, make sure Redpipi has lower HP than Noir or Liter (whoever has higher ATK between the two). Maybe remove Redpipi boot or something if her HP is higher.

If you fought it trouble some to use Redpipi (she need lots of investment) you could use QuencyEQ or Ein instead.

But Rapipi gonna be invested for campaign so I used her.

[swift mango]

The biscuit he doesn't own.

I thought he asked about deficit in campaign tbh

[coarse lake]

oh

[fathom rock]

Imagine after finally planning your comp this happens

[swift mango]

When you attacking someone, do the math

Your CP/theirs. If >= 0.846 then you are fine. Otherwise, your will be in stat deficit. If < 0.65 then it's impossible to win.

[river moat]

okay ill check

[fathom rock]

Win?

[swift mango]

Probably.

[river moat]

help

[swift mango]

But do your SBS have higher HP than ASS? Because Indom would likely hitting SBS normlly

[fathom rock]

Yup

[swift mango]

Should be fine. Also, move liter to p1.

Liter+Rapipi+Blanc+Noir+Jackal.

[river moat]

done

[swift mango]

You probably shouldn't be using Pepper in this team. Otherwise, you will need to remove liter gear to place on Pepper

[quick lake]

Happens. Pain

[swift mango]

Multi account

Kinda reluctant here but next time skill reset come I think the optimal way for me would be to reset DKW to 5-7-5 and max out Rapipi for campaign....

But but my highest CP Nikke!!!

My max doll dkwife!!!

Sigh

Stuck at hit count stage in map 20 now just because I use DKW instead of liter is enough painsu.

[upper grove]

someone has a grudge :kekw:

[coarse lake]

when everyone around me was investing into dkw to use over liter for campaign, I held back

found ways around it

[upper grove]

Granny supremacy

[coarse lake]

and now I have even less reason with rapipi

dkw can stay raid unit for me

[upper grove]

I only don't like Liter if I need to burst asap in campaign, otherwise the max ammo on burst is kinda neat for Alice spam

[swift mango]

Bruh the only reason I invested in DKW is because DKwife. Not because meta

[coarse lake]

my dkw is core 2 7/10/4 btw

but only 1 OL and R0 doll, so cp way too low for campaign use

dkw was my first mlb from banner, bc of waifu

I just... never considered her good enough to be worth it ig

[echo stirrup]

Uhh, did anyone have this issue before? First time seeing this

[quick lake]

Its bugged. Can try hitting some campaign stages or attack rookie opponents then come back

[jagged mesa]

can anybody help me build my rookie/sp arena teams?

alice is uninvested

[quick lake]

T1: Blanc SBS Biscuit xMaiden Drake
T2: Moran Bay Scarlet Anis Noir
T3: Auto

[jagged mesa]

thanks! what about rookie arena?

[quick lake]

Blanc SBS Biscuit Liter xMaiden

[jagged mesa]

oh really, not drunk scarlet? i thought that was the best unit in pvp

[quick lake]

You could swap SBS with Scarlet, also works

[restive heart]

blanc-sbs-drake-rapunzel-tia
xMaiden-scarlet-naga-liter-noir
moran-bay-biscuit-maidpriv-anis

[quick lake]

Those work too! @jagged mesa can change them if u need to

[jagged mesa]

awesome, and kinzari agrees with rhea's rookie arena comp too?

[restive heart]

as rheax said, you can swap sbs with scarlet

[jagged mesa]

hokay lets see how this works out

err hold on, tia after rapunzel?

[restive heart]

only rapunzel burst here, tia just for burst gen

bursting with tia takes too long cuz she will reenter burst 1

[jagged mesa]

i see