pvp-arena

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Try

[eager mountain]

maybe they should just compensate gems

[keen vapor]

Where box

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

Some random one off can be considered void.

[keen vapor]

What you mean, chips are valued in gems

[cedar orbit]

people are so close to eachother in SA that the guy who was 3rd yesterday is now 13th

[strong hull]

You know the drill.

[eager mountain]

but can i convert chips to gems?

or sp recruit tickets?

[upper grove]

true. basically it's always 2 people trying to hit me, a 3rd guy gave up 4 days ago and some random hits in between

[eager mountain]

or liberalio?

[keen vapor]

If you use wisely yes :Blanc nod:

[upper grove]

reset was great for me

[tropic summit]

eh you wish

[swift mango]

Now you have a chill bracket. Let's hope it stays that way for the sake of your mental health.

[eager mountain]

it will be for the future ig, curr sp is basically top 3 cp diffs and all others cant really mess with me

[strong hull]

Jackal noah OLed

[tropic summit]

you cooking this @keen vapor? ^

[strong hull]

Tbh Blood-kun def was good now ur.

[swift mango]

Just go beat the top 3
https://tenor.com/Af6m.gif

[upper grove]

yeah I don't even have OL on my pvp units, only units which I can use for both pvp/pve. after SSR Rapi I'll OL pvp and then it's super chill. only 1 other guy has same story progress as me in top 10 and he's like 5th. rest is 2-5 chapters behind

[keen vapor]

He will kill me if I don't

[tropic summit]

but he doesn't have mica, i'd reroll

[strong hull]

I wont do that

[keen vapor]

Micaless :hu tao why:

[strong hull]

Basement alway has slots.

[tropic summit]

kitchen is ruined, no mica

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[tropic summit]

a fate worse than death @keen vapor

[strong hull]

There are 2 ppls there already

Dw youre not alone.

[tropic summit]

man is running a business not a basement

[strong hull]

Its a real deal fam.

Ok cool echo ran away

[tropic summit]

nah he's probably already getting the ingredients

[strong hull]

ill prepare the rod.

Just In case

[tropic summit]

hmm interesting trivia I didn't necessarely need to know

[strong hull]

I havent use my ultimate weapon

[tropic summit]

oh no

[eager mountain]

a message of "i tried"

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[tropic summit]

bro isn't even cp deficit, he's gonna be sent to the heavens

[swift mango]

That's the c3? Then GG

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-made-in-heaven-pucci-stone-ocean-enrico-pucci-gif-27190891

[upper grove]

109 synchro lvls

[eager mountain]

i just leave the #4 spot for mfs to compete since i aint getting the top 3 reward lol

[swift mango]

Especially those "underlying tissue"

[eager mountain]

i already sent my message of "dont mess with the #5 and fight for ur #4", the #4 spot do be a warzone lol...

[valid fern]

do these golden chips expire? if not im prob gonna save em for next season. I pretty much already locked in C2

[tropic summit]

if they act like normal chips yes

noway to know though since SU added them manually to all accounts

[valid fern]

when do normal chips expire then? end of season?

[bleak shale]

literally never

[bleak shale]

thats how it worked the first time

when we got 2 chips for some other thing i forget, it just stays until u use it

[tropic summit]

oh ok there was another similar occasion in the past uh 🤔

[vapid lake]

i woke up too late to check pvp before reset

but it seems my rivals didnt login last night to see the sp arena compensation mail

i didnt get attacked

today's gonna be chaotic tho

[steady atlas]

What are they needed for?

[vapid lake]

they determine ur final placement at the end of the season

more = better

[tropic summit]

specifically, more than your opponents

to give you an idea:

[steady atlas]

thanks for the explanation

[vapid lake]

arena issues still present huh maybe shouldn't attack until they're resolved

[tropic summit]

was fine for me in both sp arena and rookie, seems kinda random

[glad meteor]

So far I’m safe from bugs

[swift mango]

You could try sth like this if you had lv4 quantum cube.

[strong hull]

So.

Echo ran away.

*getting rod in disappointment

[vapid lake]

time to marathon the whole of squid game season 2 today

[swift mango]

Does your SBS have Ammo line? She would need that Combining with Alice.

[strong hull]

Its the real deal.

[strong hull]

Yes.

[brittle hill]

Uhh pvp is still bugged

It doesn't uses your try though it'll say you're currently battling

[swift mango]

Hit another guy, the target you try to fight is bugged

[hot comet]

How in the world am I losing to this player?
Is it the elements, or is it PVP being buggy?

[eager mountain]

ur team is not a pvp team but theirs is, thats why. ur team doesnt have any burst gen, also u coulve level up only 5 units and put the rest in syncho

[hot comet]

Yeah, I watched the battle this time and their cindy pretty much destroyed my entire team

[swift mango]

The losing bug is fix as far as I see. You just got disconnected instead.

If you get to the battle and your team loses there. Then it mean you just loss. The bug was that your team won but result showed you loss.

[eager mountain]

yep, the deflict isnt that big, faster burst gen cindy will nuke u, at ur level u might or might not have the resource to invest in pvp so unless u wanna spread some resource to pvp instead of campaign...

since, most pvp burst gen units arent really used in pve,

[swift mango]

Honestly? Just replace Alice and Naga with Jackal + Centi and you would win

[eager mountain]

true, it doesnt matter whether those units have any cp or not in this case

[hot comet]

I would like to eventually better understand PVP team comps in this game, but right now I'm trying to focus on campaign. I just got to the Mother Whale chapter and I think, from everything I've heard, that I am going to need everything I've got to put into that battle.

[hot comet]

Do have Jackal, don't have Centi

[eager mountain]

put jackal in syncho and put her in every pvp team is indeed the answer lol

[swift mango]

Rumani, Noah, anis

[eager mountain]

u can just screenshot ur units

[swift mango]

Liter+DKW+Cindy+Anis+Jackal

[hot comet]

Here's what I've been rolling in SP Arena

[eager mountain]

damn a gif, nice

i mean, ur whole ssr roster

he does have rumani tho

[swift mango]

Okay

Liter+Naga+Cindy+XMaiden+Jackal.

[hot comet]

coming up

[swift mango]

I'm tired. Just check CP of team I suggested. 90k above means you won.

[hot comet]

@eager mountain

[oak gale]

@tropic summit

[hot comet]

Thank you. I really appreciate the help.

so maybe we'll try this, yeah?

[eager mountain]

put syncho'd noah instead of naga

[eager mountain]

so for sp arena (and thus rookie), the 3 dps u wanna use is cindy, scarlet, and ein

[swift mango]

XMaiden...

[hot comet]

Oh Ice Maiden = XMaiden?

[hot comet]

I haven't really invested in Noah. But I can drop 500 crystals and drop her in syncro

[eager mountain]

funny that both maiden does similar burst gen...

[eager mountain]

u dont need that, just remove someone in syncho like D for example

[swift mango]

Maiden feed jackal

[eager mountain]

yes yes

[swift mango]

You could go with

Liter+DKW+Cindy+Jackal+Noah tbh.

@hot comet

[hot comet]

There we go

Still lost to him

I want this revenge only because this player has been holding the lead in the leaderboards in our server 😅

[eager mountain]

b2: blanc noah
b1: rosanna noise
burst gen: rumani Xmaiden jackel sr anis, bunny soda/maiden/drake also works but will feed enemy jackel

[swift mango]

Did u see the battle?

[hot comet]

Didn't watch that one though I probably should have

[eager mountain]

prob cuz of indom and biscuit

[swift mango]

Quick battle sometime has vastly different result

[eager mountain]

put biscuit and centi in wishlist, ull need them a lot for pvp

[hot comet]

I have Centi in there, but my RNG luck has been utter trash since the the winter event

[eager mountain]

cindy nuked before noah b2? tf

[swift mango]

So did you see their Cindy able to do wipe dmg or got blocked by Noah?

[eager mountain]

alternatively u can use rosa and kill their jackel before they burst

[hot comet]

That I didn't catch. I was doing good right up until the end and then their burst wiped me out

It was either Cindy or Crown

[swift mango]

Yeah, your team probably too fast for them.

Could probably slower it a bit.

[eager mountain]

💀 that team wont be 2rl faster for noah shield to not work tho

[swift mango]

Rosa can't kill Jackal ever normally and even impossible with Biscuit around.

[eager mountain]

oh ya they got biscuit f

[swift mango]

Cindy p2 and lots of feed could put his team to 2rl. Enemies only 4 RL.

[hot comet]

Man, you two blow my mind with this stuff. I was far better at Granblue team comps than I ever will be with this game

[swift mango]

Move your Cindy to P2 or 1.

P1 should do.

Yeah move your Cindy to p1.

[eager mountain]

my brains off and didnt catch those at all lol, first glance its was 1+noah gen and didnt thought it could be too fast

[hot comet]

this was a far better balanced match and I think you're right I think my team was too fast for the other player's team.
This player we were almost perfectly power matched

[swift mango]

The same fight but different result?

[eager mountain]

diff ppl

[hot comet]

Different player

[swift mango]

Like I said. Move your Cindy to P1 and hit that guy before again.

[hot comet]

but they all got taunted to Noah and I don't think I saw that in the other match

I gotta jet to Target to sell some stuff from Marketplace but I owe you two :3

Definitely makes me want to read up more on the character skills when I have some more time.

So BIG ups. I am indebtted

[swift mango]

Don't use Cindy p1-2 to hit other guys though. Only that guy.

[eager mountain]

usually p3 p4 but p3 still feeds emilia but his arena group might not even have emilia around

[swift mango]

Keep the order the same, move everyone else 1 position to the right.

[tropic summit]

[hot comet]

Cindy, Liter, DKW, Jackal, Noah?

[fickle herald]

is arena still rigged?

I kept losing against this one player

Why did the battle record say that i win tho??

[carmine ridge]

Hey, can anyone help me make a team for rookie arena? I keep dropping down to like rank 70 every day lol

Ts my roster

[coral mirage]

Bug rn, the record is real the ending screen js broken

[kindred tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946721308148920371/1319429120853020692/IMG_4322.gif

[tropic summit]

i guess you could go for 2RL cindy

[untold wyvern]

oh where did you get this graph from?

[tropic summit]

alternatively if you want to push CP by avoiding using anis

[tropic summit]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?gid=1990278246#gid=1990278246

[carmine ridge]

I see, tyvm I'll try out this team next reset

[trim fable]

what can I use against this in rookie?

[tropic summit]

hmm it could be either 2RL, 2.5RL or 3RL emi 1 buff nuke, have you fought them before to be able to tell?

regardless, a 4RL noah would probably do the job

alternatively a 2RL rosanna

[trim fable]

looks like 2RL

[tropic summit]

oh then i guess you want a 4RL s.anis stall

can go 3RL rapu for a even safer post emi nuke

[trim fable]

cp diffed

[tropic summit]

holy moly

no actually you're just 7% deficit

you're in range

[trim fable]

still lost

[tropic summit]

you absorbed the nuke and died to post indom emi?

[trim fable]

although noah/crown/sanis/rh/bisc seems to do it

[tropic summit]

oh still 4RL but with RH buff

guess s.anis needed a buff more

[glad meteor]

Maybe noise died

[tropic summit]

yeah was curious 🤔

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

although on 2RL emi should be charging, so you only receive splash from biscuit, jackal and centi...

[glad meteor]

• Damage taken debuff + emi&rls will hit between 2.5 - 4RL.

• Only 1 emi hit i think

1 emi hit with blanc debuff I think

[tropic summit]

oh ok that might hurt a tad

[umbral crown]

Rosanna it and its gg

[tropic summit]

does rosanna make it in time against a 2RL emi? 🤔

[umbral crown]

yes

if 2 RL Rosanna

[glad meteor]

Noah noise sanis biscuit rapunzel should technically block

[tropic summit]

yeah they did clear with a 4RL in the end

i guess we can assume noise just died on first attempt

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

[vapid lake]

[neat dove]

Any tips on beating this team or am I just too deficit in CP to even bother?

[tropic summit]

22% CP deficit, let him go

or open thy wallet

[neat dove]

Yeah I’d love to but he made it personal lol

[quick lake]

Could try Rumani Blanc Biscuit RedHood Cindy

Might not work though

[neat dove]

Don’t have Moran built but I’ll give that team a ago once’s she’s built enough or just take railtracer’s advice and open my wallet I guess. What packs do i need to buy to lvl up cp fast?

[quick lake]

Made edits. Can try this team, but yeah cp diff is tough

[swift mango]

First auto team and see if you auto team could even reach their CP... Then you add Noah and Biscuit and see if it's about 900k.

[sage saffron]

Sp arena bug still happening XD

It cut me off at a very close battle

Battle 2

Manual watch

[faint sphinx]

would these teams work against this guy ? my box isn't that good for pvp

[brittle hill]

You need to start using Blanc, biscuit, rapunzel, noise. They're being neglected. Twinkling soda is another good option

Team 1 can take care of him since estimate is 3.5RL but he can go down to 3RL with charge speed on his units. Try it out

[faint sphinx]

yeah i havent gotten to invest in those units yet, still working on campaign team rn but ill try it out

[brittle hill]

his blanc will make cindy invincible for 10 seconds if he burst first

[faint sphinx]

how come noise wouldn't get blanc's indom and cindy would instead?

[brittle hill]

Oh nvm, noise would get targeted here. I just thought she would be dead when i played the scenario in my mind

[faint sphinx]

do you think i could try using rapunzel instead of crown, not really sure if my cindy would do enough damage since her burst only lvl 4

[brittle hill]

Crown has more burst gen surprisingly, barely any difference

still going to be 3RL

[faint sphinx]

yeah im trying to see if there might be someone else that might be better to use than crown here but it doesn't seem like it

damn i couldnt even attack him, got the arena dc

[brittle hill]

oh i need to do my lottery rolls!

[still dawn]

Hi Guys, I need help building 3 teams for sp Arena.. Building teams hasn’t been easy for me… any suggestions?

[meager linden]

Hi guys! How i can defeat this team? My Emilia-Blank team cant do it. Emilia always dies before Blank get her invul.

[quartz prawn]

a bit late
but yeah blanc indom didnt go off. cp gap was quick enough to finish off noise

[swift mango]

There are some way around that starts with upgrading your unit's tankieness.

But you can just Replace Emilia with SbS. Use Vigor on RH. Btw, did your Blanc even survive until burst?

[meager linden]

Oh, nwm. I can beat him by this team, a little rebuild 🙂 Thx for answer 🙂

[swift mango]

Eh then this means your Blanc dying was the cause of you losing all along)

[meager linden]

Yes, i think so)

[swift mango]

Or your Jackal being much squishier than Emilia for some reason...

[river moat]

who are the pvp meta nikkes

[tropic summit]

give this a check, lists by tier and also gives a brief description of why you should run a specific nikke

https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist

[river moat]

oooo thank you

is there an app out there that just lets me plug in my nikkes and it creates ideal teams for me

[quick lake]

Nope, there isn't

[late marten]

If it does, PVP would be literally broken.

[glad meteor]

@/Rosy

:dorowalk:

[keen vapor]

Here
A doro walk for you

[quasi prism]

[keen vapor]

I'm reading the Bible

[river moat]

aw i always hope someone/thing will make new teams for me

but recently ive just hit a power level wall

im stuck at 160 so its hard to get past diamond 6 atm

[brisk spindle]

hello, team for the pvp? with only 1 team

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

There is not but once you ask here, people will make their best to give you teams so it works in a way

[river moat]

wow really. let me login then

actually my previous teams were all made by ppl here

[keen vapor]

So, rookie team?

[river moat]

my current atk/def teams // the third team was auto. pls suggest anything if it needs changing

my roster -

[brisk spindle]

yes

[keen vapor]

What are your units

[brisk spindle]

I have until anis, but if I have to level up one unit tell me, I have available space in the sychro

[river moat]

wow..you have so many nikkes

[brisk spindle]

[keen vapor]

Scarlet/Blanc/RH/Laplace.... Wait, is Scarlet attack higher than Laplace? Including overload lines

[quick lake]

probably not

[brisk spindle]

well, laplace has her item and both only have level 5 equipment

[keen vapor]

Mmmmm let's trust then

[brisk spindle]

overload only has red hood, crown, alice (only 3/4), doro

[quick lake]

Check if u have atk ol lines on scarlet

[brisk spindle]

only 4 have it, because I looked habilities and level first, but with the team you give me I am going to see scarlet overload xd

I only play for dailies during the week, on weekend rarely I play more time

[keen vapor]

Auto and hope for the best

[brisk spindle]

burst 1 who?

[keen vapor]

RH

[brisk spindle]

so the full team is?

[brisk spindle]

because here only tell me 4

[vapid lake]

jackal

[keen vapor]

Swap Laplace with Anis

Bc I can't trust the more I look at it

[vapid lake]

just go into union range with that exact team and check who the jackal link is affecting

[keen vapor]

Can't trust !!

[brisk spindle]

so, jackal, blanc, RH, scarlet bs, anis sumer or normal?

[keen vapor]

I was talking about normal Scarlet

And it needs to be done in the order I given

And normal Anis

[brisk spindle]

ah

[unkempt kestrel]

does pvp automatically claim the points once the season is over or do we need to manually claim them?

[keen vapor]

Is auto at the end, yes

[covert lintel]

SP arena point automatically accumulated from the start of season until the end of season so u don't need to claim it if u don't care about arena exchange voucher

[quick lake]

You should care about arena exchange vouchers. You can run out of them

[keen vapor]

But I have 300k

[quick lake]

Why u aint buying the ele skill books

[keen vapor]

Why I'm going to need more than 2k per code

[quick lake]

But u do, to invest the skill level

Otherwise go buy the furnance thingy

[keen vapor]

I do every day

[keen vapor]

But I don't need more than 2k

I only need 1k per Nikke

[keen vapor]

And that's for maxed

[quick lake]

there are ppl refreshing the store to get electric coded skill books not me

[keen vapor]

I go on budget every time I can

[keen vapor]

2k the best

[upper grove]

If I want to use Moran, in what kind of teams does she work best?

[quick lake]

Moran Bisuit SAnis/SBS typically

[grizzled bone]

SBS is an interesting comp

[eternal finch]

Any recs vs this player? My Emilia dies before she can even atk.

[quick lake]

Dont run Emilia against opponent's Electric Rosanna

Usually OHKO by Rosanna's nuke

T1: Ignore (or u can do max pressure P1/2. T.Laplace + xMaiden + Emilia + SG + SG)
T2: 2-2.5RL Scarlet Nuke
T3: Noah Cindy Biscuit Noise 3RL

Thats rather high CP for your sync

[swift mango]

Emilia 2buffs, use it to hit Noah, always use it to hit Noah.

Teams 3 you should replace Emi with SBS.

They could use no Jackal link on Scarlet to Sarc her. So watch the fight to check.

[swift mango]

FOR Team 2: Move Noise to P1.

But I will build ya 3 teams

[river moat]

[placid prawn]

can anyone help me figure out new pvp teams? this is what i'm currently using and it's very old

[swift mango]

Do you have quantum cube and what level is it?

[river moat]

nope im too lazy to lost sector..ill get to it soon

[swift mango]

Could you tell me how much ATK your Noise has comparing to Cindy? I mean who has Higher ATK?

[river moat]

noise isnt geared so cindy probly does

[quick lake]

Just assume Noise has higher Atk, which is likely Doubt Cindy got any high atk OL lines

[swift mango]

Uhm if you use an unit in Arena you should at least put some gear on them. At least unused purple

[swift mango]

You maybe surprised at lower level roster.

Noise would often have lower attack than Cindy

[quick lake]

Oh maybe. Cause gear

[swift mango]

And crown

[river moat]

yeah i got orange and purple on most of them but cindy has upgraded

also am i switching noise with crown in my team 2

[quick lake]

No Scarlet, Noah, Centi Rumani?

[swift mango]

Well, you could keep it as is then.

[river moat]

ok reverting change

any other changes?

[swift mango]

I would Assume your grave having higher ATK than Viper right?

[river moat]

who

viper?

[swift mango]

Grave vs Viper

[river moat]

ah grave has more yeah

[placid prawn]

Centi I just got, rest no

[swift mango]

So who has the lower attack between

Grave-Liter-Privaty?

[quick lake]

Is Laplace treasured?

[placid prawn]

Lap yes

Lap and Diesel

[river moat]

privaty > grave > liter

[placid prawn]

Everybody down to Maxwell has OL gear

Not everything is maxed but they have it

[quick lake]

SPA Defence Teams:
T1: Blanc SAnis Emilia Biscuit Rapunzel
T2: Noise Viper Cindy Noir Jackal
T3: Naga Centi RH Laplace Tia

Missing quite alot of key units ie Scarlet Noah Rumani. Do OL, Emilia Centi, Noise, xMaiden, Biscuit when u got spare rocks

[placid prawn]

Less a matter of rocks and more a matter of upgrade mats atm

Fresh def teams, ty 👀

Wait uhhh T1 has no B1

Noir->Doro?

[swift mango]

What is your current Campaign team?

[river moat]

crown liter cindy priv maid , priv

[swift mango]

Privaty maid? Don't you want to swap M.Privaty with Quency?

[river moat]

ive had quency before and ppl swapped it to maid

i dont have any strong feelings toward one or the other

what about pvp

[swift mango]

About similar power.

[river moat]

ok

[swift mango]

You should focus on 1 team only for campaign first switching mid way is just wasting time raising them.

[river moat]

ok

[swift mango]

M.privaty is worse for campaign normally

[river moat]

oh

[worthy knoll]

Still don't get it why you still keep pairing SAnis and Noir everytime

[river moat]

but...werent we talking about pvp

[swift mango]

Well, I need to know 5 units you will fully invested into so I would add them to your arena team.

[river moat]

ohhhh thatll change

ill get rapi red hood for sure

[quick lake]

Mistakee again

[worthy knoll]

You forgot he mentioned below, no B1

[quick lake]

@small monolith made some edits to the team

[placid prawn]

ty3

[quick lake]

Time to go hide in a corner

[placid prawn]

T3 has no B1 now lol

oh wait redhood duh

[river moat]

cant wait for red rapi.

[swift mango]

So we could do it like this.

Get Rossanna to 4/4/4. The Privaty in T2 could be swapped with QuencyEQ. The Product in Team 3 is Products 23.

You can just auto team 3 if you find it troublesome to build Rossanna. And move Centi up to replacing Viper in t2.

[river moat]

wow

[swift mango]

Or like this and auto the 3rd team.

Rossanna still 4/4/4 skill.

Privaty can be any of M.Privaty, QuencyEQ and Privaty.

[tiny scroll]

Is there a good guide for what harmony cubes to use if your focus is PVP?

[river moat]

i can get ros to 4/4/4 easily

[swift mango]

Wish list: Rumani, Moran, Noah, Biscuit, Drunk Scarlet, Blanc, Pepper for Arena.

[river moat]

any reason y im using Neon

[swift mango]

More burst Gen. And she would likely die to trigger skill 2 from Rossanna

[river moat]

oh\

[swift mango]

My 2nd suggestions is more flexible in the long run. Just ungear units you don't use and swap to the units you use.

[swift mango]

Grave can be replaced by Crown in 2nd suggestions, in that case, if Crown attack < Liter, move Liter to p1.

[river moat]

ok

ty for all the help

ill show my other account's teams sometime

[swift mango]

Quantum, Adjustant, Vigor and Tempering.

[tiny scroll]

On which Nikkes is optimal though. Like for Quantum I got Anis, Jackal, and Centi, I have 2 more slots but not sure who else to put.

[swift mango]

It's defending on what you need. But generally just equip them on anyone with high Burst gen. Read Keripo, Prydwen, Nikke.gg guide to Arena if you want to look for guides.

[tiny scroll]

OK, thanks for the info.

[chilly furnace]

Can someone test in SPA fight someone with chinese or JP name

[quick lake]

Yes there are CN and JP ppl in SPA

[chilly furnace]

No i mean

Fight anyone on ur bracket with JP or Chinese name

Its to find the bug cause

And finding more proof

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

#pvp-arena message

this was already yesterday and a day ago, when the bug was already detected

i seem to be able to fight rookie/SP arena against CH players just fine so far 🤔

[chilly furnace]

After the patch yesterday.. i still got the bug disconnected and you are in battle bug when fighting them

[tropic summit]

yeah a lot of ppl are still having that tho

[quick lake]

No problems here fighting either CN/JP peeps in my SPA

[chilly furnace]

Seem odd because it only occurs when fight those ppl

[tropic summit]

if it further helps giving more clues, i fought several different ppl in rookie yesterday to use those 10 free attempts

there was CH, JPN, ENG and DE in terms of regions

[chilly furnace]

I heard it affect rookie too right.. its also weird because i didnt have issue in rookie fighting anyone lol

[tropic summit]

other half of them:

[chilly furnace]

Welp its all good data.. thanks m8

[tropic summit]

if it helps by all means

[chilly furnace]

[worthy knoll]

Something I experienced earlier.

It happened to me on SP and no, he does not have a Japanese or CN name. I was able to attack them at first, I lost in the vid but I won the battle record, it showed my rank increases on the final page too even I clearly lost 2 rounds on the vid.

Then he attacked back, the teams and positions on his side were all still the same, but I swapped my two teams, T2 and T3 I used to attack previously and the disconnect error showed up. Then the "I am on battle message" to any fights after until I restart my app. Restarting the app and using the same setup it occured again. My free entries weren't use, as if no battle ever happened during those error messages.

So the next time I restarted I swapped my T2 and T3 attack teams to were they are originally though I changed one unit on each. It went through with no problems this time

[frank ingot]

bro used the free attempt on me wth?

then went radio silent

[chilly furnace]

Dang this is new cause, actually well its rather old cause that occur again.. dahel chara position and type is cause the bug too (again)

Ok good addition

[worthy knoll]

@chilly furnace Here are the vids below to back this up.

1st Vid: First free entry to use, went through immediately but weird win on a battle vid that clearly lost

2nd Vid: After some time he took back the position and I attacked, but I swap my T2 and T3 attack teams with a change of swapping of Laplace+ and XMaiden on the two teams. Error showed up. This is what always happen if I use the same team too even after restarting the game

3rd Vid: What shows when battling after getting the disconnect error, won't go away until I close and reopen the game

4th Vid: Swap back my T2 and T3 back to their original places on the 1st Vid, but still retained the swap change of Laplace+ to XMaiden. It didn't error this time. I left the loading time, as I think it should be part of the report. I noticed my loading time got longer after the patch, like twice longer than usual.. you'll notice in this vid it was even more than a minute

[swift mango]

I only fought 2 different CN names in the last 2 day, one got through and one not.

Team doesn't matter because I hit them both with same team one

[chilly furnace]

I see

[tropic summit]

so strange that i haven't encountered this bug yet on global and against so many different region opponents... wonder if it's bracket dependant

bracket or server actually 🤔

[strong hull]

Blood-kun

Ur 3 def make me from chall 6 to dia 10

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-holding-laugh-covering-laugh-gif-10899551814881068905

[keen vapor]

The lesson: never cook for Thien

[tropic summit]

must be the lack of mica 🤔

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Mica was not here for 1 year, thats skill and investment issues

[swift mango]

Time to switch back

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

How much was a drop in CP from my suggestions by the way? I don't really remember what was that.

[upper grove]

do I win this, I'm 3 RL they are 4 RL. or does blanc indom happen before I kill?

I could also just CP gap the team with Alice instead of Anis. Both 4 RL then and 21%

I just want to know if I would win this if they catch up in lvls

[swift mango]

There is a chance your Noise would just drop dead and you won't burst.

As for Jackal team, It depends. Some time team could be 3rl sometime not, likely not in this case.

21% could likely make you win. Laplace is with treasure right?

[swift mango]

If it's 3rl vs 4RL then you would win, yes.

[kindred tinsel]

scarlet build progress

[keen vapor]

Me with skills at 7

[upper grove]

yes Laplace+, I had issues with Noise dying sometimes so good to know

[swift mango]

Why not just level up?

[unkempt kestrel]

Scarlet just needs 3x ammo for min OL investment right?

[swift mango]

Min investment is just oL and blue doll

[upper grove]

Server disconnected and now this shows up, no attempts have been used. Still bugged?

[swift mango]

My bugged dude got to C2 now. Seems like I will lose C3 this season.

[unkempt kestrel]

Mid investment

[swift mango]

Bug protect you from being attack. The ultimate defense.

[upper grove]

damn that sucks

[upper grove]

I could attack them the days before but now it bugs out

[swift mango]

I couldn't attack him at all.

Even after he changed rank

I got a disconnect bug hitting another guy today but still won.

But if I hit the bugged dude, it's disconnect and Cooldown

[upper grove]

shift up gem compensation

[kindred tinsel]

im saving skills for redpi should i upgrade the doll to the purple one?

[swift mango]

28k core dust

[tropic summit]

well yes, it was sarcasm

[kindred tinsel]

im saving it to show whales the true F2P experience

also im running out of space in syncro

oh cool finally hit 800k

[warm acorn]

What the

Jesus man

Thoughts?

@keen vapor @tropic summit

[keen vapor]

My thoughts are: you need more gems for step up banner/Rapi

[warm acorn]

i have 65 tickets

but yes ._.

[bleak latch]

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

2 more levels, go

[bleak latch]

for fun experiment

Moran+Bay Reduce damage to survive sbs nuke

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Also jackal damage share

[drifting hazel]

Plus biscuit

[umbral crown]

Moran + biscuit to counter SBS

• bay reducing but not at all

[cedar orbit]

just max out your Sakura

[glad meteor]

Having to OL units for pvp is expensive

Need more double burst weekend

Need to invest in bay quiry nero, and then reroll for combat power

[bleak latch]

just +8% not much but still help

[umbral crown]

Of course

[oak gale]

huh-

also have fun with the #1 @tropic summit

[potent ermine]

Do these stays? the ticket?

[wild badge]

yeah, the coins stay

[tropic summit]

what's up

[tropic summit]

oh so we doin' this? you managed to keep ch2?

[oak gale]

yep , im now ch2 consistantly

so i did claim ch 1 now everytime i login

[tropic summit]

ok let's cook

[oak gale]

so far , the current screenshots i sent , team 1 and team 3 wins

[tropic summit]

oh so you don't need to beat him

yeah t1 and t3 are dealing with their weaker teams, copium alice and copium scarlet, biscuit less and with feed

[oak gale]

i mostly sent it for fun lol , since i doubt i could consistantly keep ch1 for now, since i need to work on the characters more lol

[tropic summit]

eh yeah, i think he's going to CP pad you

[oak gale]

yep , unless i focus on the characters

[tropic summit]

based on what i can see above, they might be running a noah s.anis stall team and a 3RL scarlet/cindy team against you

you'd need a defense that can handle both

[oak gale]

yep , first time i tried i lost , until i switched team 2 and 3

for now i have like one relic remaining to ol on jackal and then ill move onto the next character

who do u think i should move to?

[tropic summit]

hmm doll up and gear up jackal/biscuit/noise/noah if not already

and if s.anis/cindy aren't maxed yet, also a safe choice

[oak gale]

cindy and sanis are maxed out

both doll and ol gear and skills (10 4 10 on cindy and 10 10 10 on sanis)

[strong hull]

Nah i havent check it

Just yapping a bit

Ig should be fine

[cosmic sedge]

If anyone doesn’t mind, need help making a rookie and 3 special arena teams since I seriously don’t know shit about PvP 😭

[thorn dock]

what is wrong with SP Arena?

[tropic summit]

broken since 2-3 days

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1321849066266689607

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke in order of strength, vertically, we can take it from there

[thorn dock]

I thought they fixed it

[tropic summit]

intern kun has yet to fix the code, let him work overtime a bit longer

[swift mango]

6600 gems for step up banner. No tickets allowed

[glad meteor]

Can’t even see him on refresh

Can i not hit above 200 pts

[tropic summit]

also 6 attempts, are they planning to use 1 of those free tickets each day for 10 days?

the pettiness with those free chips is gonna be something else

[unkempt kestrel]

what cube would u guys use on xmaiden

[vapid lake]

rookie arena tickets? ispent all 10 of them immediately because who cares

i was already forced to use 2 of the free sp arena tickets yesterday

[frail hamlet]

There has been this whale in rookie arena that has been a pain in my ass for quite some time now. Me? I don't whale, not my cup of tea, but I put forth a solid effort building up teams and getting things to work.

Anywho, I noticed that some of his attacks were failing - so I continue improving where I can and eventually he fails like 9 attacks in a row.

This guy, btw, is absolute garbage at setting up teams. All that money, but no brain to back it up.
So what does he resort to?

This pathetic tactic

just copying what I was using

[cosmic sedge]

Thanks! I don’t mind investing in lower ones if needed

[bleak latch]

welp if it not broken why fixing right?

[tropic summit]

oke gonna take a look

[tropic summit]

depends what you need her to do, battery? quantum, survival? vigor, just stats for nuke/off burst dps? any high lvl cube or adjutant

[frail hamlet]

I mean, it is "smart" just lame to see him resort to it
got all the money to have every character maxxed, but can't be bothered to learn the game - sad

[tropic summit]

i think you're overestimating them, some players just see pvp as another daily, they took the easy way: just copy whatever seems to work

[tropic summit]

btw is laplace treasured?

[tropic summit]

scarlet grave liter xmaiden jackal
centi noise cind anis tia (or alice for CP)
blanc SBS biscuit RH noir

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, anis
vigor on noise, blanc, biscuit
rest just put highest available cubes

notes: wishlist asap noah, rapunzel and rumani, can get your teams revised once you find them

[bleak latch]

just my guess that his 9th attack attemp was just team testing i did kinda similar to that but definitely not 9 times in a row

[frail hamlet]

yeah, I mean, for a spender on his level, 400 gems is nothing, but it's crazy he couldn't wait one other day to simply test out other teams

[bleak latch]

plus his team max core but combat power seem little bit off too low for 500+

[frail hamlet]

most likely doesn't have maxxed out commander dolls on said characters

[bleak latch]

some maybe not even has doll

[frail hamlet]

given how his progress is pretty bad considering what he's working with, it wouldn't be too surprising to see that he's too lazy to keep up with dolls and all that

I feel like if I had maxxed out cores on every character and was at his level, I would most likely be able to complete hard mode
not sure how high I'd get on the tower though...maybe 650ish? (currently at 575 with what I'm working with)

[bleak latch]

and there's me same lazy as him

[frail hamlet]

I'm competing painfully heavy against a non-whale rival

[bleak latch]

[umbral crown]

[frail hamlet]

to be honest, if it wasn't for said rival, I'd probably be in the mid 20's in hard mode and maybe floor 450 or something

[bleak latch]

[frail hamlet]

so that's your team setup eh? Can't say I've seen anyone in my bracket with that formation

[bleak latch]

i have to shuffle everyday since my bracket is fierce

[frail hamlet]

oh man, that would be a bit of a headache to keep up with

[bleak latch]

my defense is emilia stall team tho

[frail hamlet]

man, I got slapped around with my pull luck during the RE:Zero banner. I have everyone, but only a single copy.

[bleak latch]

fortunately emilia is easy to build even without full star/core she still hit like a nuke

if you apply RH/Blanc she can be like oneshot nuke

[frail hamlet]

is her burst insta damage or delay like scarlet?

[bleak latch]

she has huge delayed

[frail hamlet]

so she'll delay long enough to burn out the other team's Noah immunity

[bleak latch]

which is make noah shield not working aganst her

[frail hamlet]

very interesting

[bleak latch]

yep with noah everywhere she is solid pvp unit

[frail hamlet]

I'll have to invest in her sometime when I'm done working on some other PVE units.

speaking of which, better get back to the grind - nice talkin' with ya and kudos for the interesting pvp info. Have a great day!

[bleak latch]

[bitter pike]

I'm currently running these three teams for defense but I kinda feel they aren't performing that well. Any suggestions for replacements or placement changes?

[keen vapor]

Scarlet is instant

[keen vapor]

Try this

How invested is your Rosanna btw?

[bitter pike]

not particulary. 7/1/7 and no overload gear. I'm planing to start working on my pvp units after I finished Rapi.
Thanks for your suggestions. I like to see Cindarella, RH and Laplace as they are 3 of my 5 highest CP units

[keen vapor]

No invested cool

Be sure to get Anis HP high btw

[tropic summit]

post your box, we need the full picture, although t1 and t2 look good, t3 might need a hand

[deft pelican]

Can someone make me sp arena def teams

[muted stag]

Help please

Scar team can use

Scar emillia redhood centi jackal easy win

[brittle hill]

Team 2 - Noah, Noise, Summer Anis/Noir, Biscuit, Redhood. You just stall here so Noise needs doll investments

[brittle hill]

Twinkling Soda, Redhood, Viper (treasure 2), Emelia, Noir

[glad meteor]

Fighting SGs and lap+ with level core diff

• the SGs may kill the team from P5 flanking,
• laplace may kill noise. Especially if not bursting fast enough

[umbral crown]

Why cool?

[tropic summit]

noise the most invested nikke, even more than sbs?

[swift mango]

Nvm you burst with RH so Noise was just used to tank the shoots I see.

Could work. You might want her to shoot slower than Noah if you wanted to bait Laplace shoots somehow.

Still same issue if Privaty able to burst and then their SG wipe your team.

[deft pelican]

I LOVE NOISE

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit rapu s.anis sbs
noise centi cind emi alice
scarlet blanc rh laplace+ jackal

quantum mandatory on jackal for 3RL
quantum on centi, emi
vigor on noise, blanc, biscuit, rapu
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis and s3 must be lvl 9

if your def teams start losing, we can switch things up and introduce a 2RL or 2.5RL variation, in case ping me again

[deft pelican]

🙂 ty

[glad meteor]

Noise can’t really tank imo. Moran or cindy could.

[umbral crown]

Thats normal, in my box sbs in on the second line and even liter has more cp

and she just have the first lines she got

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

No ele on sbs for krak

[umbral crown]

SBS mostly with ammo...

[glad meteor]

🧱

[umbral crown]

Yeah, mega bricked

7/4/7

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

At least better than before she was 1/1/1

shouls i reset her next 2.5 anni?

[glad meteor]

10 7 10

[tropic summit]

but u still obliterate kraken, right?

[glad meteor]

She’s so good on offensive. Why would you ever

[umbral crown]

Nope, i hardly ever do kraken

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

But last time i was maybe... stage 3 or 4

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

I beat a moran noah biscuit team with her

[umbral crown]

When you not bricked, everything is possible

[glad meteor]

It was a team i made in 2 secs. But saved me from a loss lol

The 2 real teams i made. Only one won

[umbral crown]

The good chef

Part of the new pvp generation players

[glad meteor]

Cindy is harder to deal with on offense.

I miss when boy was brick using sbs

[umbral crown]

Was about time to grow up and leave the brick status

[empty narwhal]

probably position Nikke are the problem

[glad meteor]

Give sr 5 nero moran quiry rapunzel with minimum invest

[umbral crown]

All i do is indi but no luck getting defender chest tetra

[umbral crown]

Im kinda hesitaring to invest on quiry

[glad meteor]

Yep, though i haven’t tested new positioning

Was expecting 3 RL enemy, not 2.5

[empty narwhal]

well we don't have mock test to do that thou.... well can test on Rookie Arena for that

[umbral crown]

When up and down

[glad meteor]

I’m expecting cindy and centi to get biscuit s2 so they tank scar burst and cindy can nuke the team

Surely their lap+ is stronk

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Not real pvp goon

:litersip:

[umbral crown]

Im just a product of everyone imagination

[glad meteor]

Don’t be

[umbral crown]

do i really exist?

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Imagine helm in pvp. Whole team gets biscuit burst basically. I tried to make it work before but couldn’t

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

wait.

that sounds interesting

2 splashers with RH buff, noah to prevent nuke wipe, helm for sustain? 🤔

i kinda want to see this

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

@worthy knoll you ever tested this ^ (or helm in general)

[worthy knoll]

Helm? There is treasure now with helm?

[tropic summit]

no we were wondering if helm could ever work in pvp with the sustain she provides

[worthy knoll]

The one atm, I remember scrapping it

[tropic summit]

oh.

[worthy knoll]

I mean, you can test I guess but like, was the lifesteal enough like if against a Noah SAnis team?

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmmm

[worthy knoll]

It usually melts too fast, and given you are bursting with helm, it ends up with a B3 with just lifesteal and nothing more

[glad meteor]

Hopefully treasure can help

[tropic summit]

looks like biscuit and helm, in terms of lifesteal, are kinda the same

55,4% against 54,4%

[vapid lake]

Treasure = helm burst become screenwipe

[worthy knoll]

At least when Biscuit do, you still have a B3

[tropic summit]

yep, i guess we can scrap helm afterall for now

[glad meteor]

I remember making a clip sg helm cook for ca, but very cope

[worthy knoll]

Well if they make helm higher life steal % and prolly make her a Re-B3

[vapid lake]

that'll make her very good at raiding

[worthy knoll]

Tho I'm more curious on Milk

If she can do lifesteal as high as Biscuit, and also can buff more now and consistently, it means a lifestealing SAnis with Noah protection is plausible now

[tropic summit]

an upgrade to the as-is s.anis sustain

[glad meteor]

🥛 is attacker unit too

[orchid birch]

yelloh?

[keen vapor]

Merryyyyyy I'm not liking JC Staff's production, I think I'm going direct to the manga

[tropic summit]

yumekui merry? understandable

[worthy knoll]

Mmmh??? Yumekui Merry?

[tropic summit]

manga was better

[keen vapor]

Yes

[worthy knoll]

Yeah just read the manga

[quick lake]

Milk is huge potential. Possibly Bigger life steal or teamwide B1 dmg

[keen vapor]

Already tested by Zixk

[worthy knoll]

They meant when treasure update on her comes

[keen vapor]

Even better

[quick lake]

Yepp. Treasure milk

[vapid lake]

I prefer chocolate milk

[keen vapor]

Miranda will be Walmart Mica

[quick lake]

@tropic summit Folkwang is 64% lifesteal compared helm 50% iirc

[tropic summit]

and yet we don't see her used

[quick lake]

And like 20-30% HP shield

[orchid birch]

rail wut I do

[glad meteor]

B2 slots too competitive

[empty narwhal]

too many B2...

[quick lake]

Hopefully Milk does higher full team wide dmg

[raven plover]

1 year ago

[tropic summit]

we were all so young and so naive

[glad meteor]

Any chance i still win if noah procs, haven’t tested Cindy against noah much

Don’t expect a beefy Alice

[quick lake]

Cindy should be completely blocked by Noah

[glad meteor]

0.5 rl diff if they have quantum

But delays between sg and rl too

[quick lake]

Still blocked maybe try SBS/SAnis

[glad meteor]

sbs

[quick lake]

Dont really need Cindy there. Can even swap to RH b1

unless CP

[glad meteor]

Imagine having redhood on alt

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Hoping centi is wall

I’ll have a shot

[tropic summit]

you gonna need a healer i think

[quick lake]

Should work

[tropic summit]

any chances for a noise/rapu?

[glad meteor]

No

[tropic summit]

hmm

[glad meteor]

Pvp brick

[tropic summit]

risky but might work

their indom wont matter at least because you running sbs

[quick lake]

Assuming no Alice weird targeting

[tropic summit]

is the pve shooting range bug still working? he could go for that

[quick lake]

No indom, cause bursting with Noah

[tropic summit]

oh wait you're right, dafuq

that's a blanc with a noah

[quick lake]

If Noah dies, more likely to lose

[tropic summit]

CP pad teams are the most fun

[glad meteor]

Can do this too. Since biscuit s2 is low

[quick lake]

Double defender

[glad meteor]

Rapunzel revive

Time to send it

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

New Rapun no revive

[glad meteor]

Worked

[glad meteor]

Enemy rapu. Revives noah so no indom

[tropic summit]

bric'd yet rekt

[glad meteor]

CP def last team.

[cosmic sedge]

Thanks! Also I don’t have Laplace treasured tho I can if better 🫡

[tropic summit]

well not mandatory, but if u did we could've put her in one of the 3 teams

should be fine even without based on what you got as is

[cosmic sedge]

And one more q: swapping to Alice over Tia is better only if it raises combat power over enemy team? Or is cp a diff term?

[tropic summit]

yep correct, you can put alice without changing RL, it would probably work best

as for CP stands for combat power, extra CP helps you in defending against CP padded enemy teams

[umbral crown]

A new level of brick

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Brick by core dust and now by dolls

Every day we see somethimg new

[tropic summit]

why i get the feeling this could have to do with a specific person in this chat... @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

I invest dolls

[tropic summit]

that... is correct

[keen vapor]

Anis with doll soon

[tropic summit]

you going the Merry way uh

SR15 anis full OL

[quick lake]

17% cs too

[tropic summit]

"purple" nikke no more

[keen vapor]

I'm already close bud

I would have used Anis since long ago on Jackal team if it wasn't for dolless

Time to advise Mica so she grows cute and strong

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

i've done my part and provided already 2 teams with a mica in them

[keen vapor]

Bond level 30 some day

[quick lake]

I didnt use xmica in my CA teams

[keen vapor]

Would

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor oi, hold him

[quick lake]

Nowhere to slot her in

[tropic summit]

liar, you're just not trying

[quick lake]

[keen vapor]

Tbf, I couldn't slot Maiden

Even when I invested hard

[tropic summit]

the OG maiden?

i wouldn't be able to slot her in either

[keen vapor]

Ice

[tropic summit]

oh

[quick lake]

What

[tropic summit]

that's easier, could fit as a clip SG burst gen 🤔

[quick lake]

Ice Maiden is so good, how can u not

[tropic summit]

echo doing some 4D chess CA teams

[quick lake]

My xMaiden 17% cs, better that SG

[keen vapor]

I don't want to get Centi out of jackal team I don't wanna need more feed

[tropic summit]

is that a scarlet jackal team or?

[keen vapor]

Scar jack, yes

[vapid lake]

then put xmaiden on ur other 2 team

[tropic summit]

you can free centi like this

[keen vapor]

Yes, but I'm talking about necessary feed for going faster

[tropic summit]

oh with CS%

3.5D chess

[keen vapor]

Hmmmmm I could replace Rapunzel in Noah team....

[quick lake]

Jackal 17% and xMaiden 17% allows u 2.5RL even with low feed

[tropic summit]

hmm then i'm missing echo's point on that

[quick lake]

I still think better for Blanc to go to SAnis/SBS team

[keen vapor]

Nvm, she's weak

[keen vapor]

Getting charge speed is not that easy

[tropic summit]

at least you've got an emilia

[quick lake]

Rerun emilia pls

[tropic summit]

why does my emilia look different than @keen vapor ?

[keen vapor]

Release Sora No Otoshimono collab my fund for Ikaros c7....

[quick lake]

I just want Emilia

[keen vapor]

Looks like the one from the timeline where Reinhard killed civilians

[tropic summit]

oh you didn't

[vapid lake]

wait rheax no emilia too?

[tropic summit]

brick club let's go

[vapid lake]

[quick lake]

Yeah

[keen vapor]

Well, another year of hoarding it is I wonder if I should just ticket Rapi and call it a day

[vapid lake]

i sincerely hope emilia never returns so i dont have to learn emilia burst timing

screw u guys

[tropic summit]

that's a reasonable opinion

[quick lake]

I somehow managed to craft 4 2.5RL for CA teams without Emilia

[keen vapor]

Both Rs here are emiless

[tropic summit]

that involves CS% OL's i hope

[quick lake]

Now need to 17% all my RL units

[tropic summit]

ah ok.

[tropic summit]

wanna join us?

[keen vapor]

No

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Wanna know something funny

[tropic summit]

shoot

[keen vapor]

I tried extra pulls for limit breaks on re zero Collab

But for Rem

[tropic summit]

that's Echo for you

[keen vapor]

I got nothing

[tropic summit]

deserved

[keen vapor]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

game knew it had to punish the sillies

when emilia banner came out i think my account was 2 or 3 weeks old

[quick lake]

I pulled for Rem and not Emilia fml

[tropic summit]

i was still young and innocent back then

all i knew was going RH B1 B2 and B3

[quick lake]

Wasted OL and rerolls for mid Rem

[keen vapor]

Tbh, Rem helped me in my MW clear

[tropic summit]

yeah used her aswell for that one

[keen vapor]

Cuz I couldn't get bunnies or schoolgirls

[tropic summit]

although i ended up benching her for crown modernia

MW i cleared it with those 2 and RH

[quick lake]

Im mega coping they rerun collab units

Asuka & Emilia non-havers are bricked

[keen vapor]

I'm coping we finally get fitting collabs

Like Sora No Otoshimono or Sinon from GGO

[quick lake]

Only GFL2 is fitting

[keen vapor]

THIS FITS

[tropic summit]

oh, Sinon... 🤔

[glad meteor]

Emilialess in an emi bracket

[quick lake]

SAO/GGO possible

[tropic summit]

welcome to my world

[keen vapor]

She's basically indistinguishable from a Nikke

[keen vapor]

Free skin is her irl

[glad meteor]

Wouldn’t mind a2

[keen vapor]

Wouldn't mind Nier's OST

[tropic summit]

well 4AM in EU, gonna

[keen vapor]

Rest well rail

[strong hull]

No chance lil man

[keen vapor]

I think I should ticket Rapi so I can go for MLB chime in April

[strong hull]

That a brilliant choice lil bro

Rapi is mid

[quick lake]

Nayuta clip SG when

[strong hull]

Pick one and left

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[upper grove]

make treasure drake good so I can have laplace+ and drake+ for SP

[coarse lake]

I wouldn't bet money on that, it takes an extremely pvp-focused kit for a SG to become good in pvp

don't expect any of the treasures to be great in pvp, at best maybe miranda/milk as liter side-grade

helm maybe for stall comp

[upper grove]

I won't, I have to upgrade SBS to SR15 first anyway. Just coping

[keen vapor]

Eon, how to get more SR15

[coarse lake]

tbh we are in dire need of good b1 buffers that do not feed

[quick lake]

Reroll disptach more

[upper grove]

currently I only have Alice, Cindy and Laplace dolls maxed, rest of campaign team is SR5 and all my PVP units are R0 except Jackal with SR5

[coarse lake]

we literally have 1 option

too many dps need 2 buffer to function, need more b1 buffers

[vapid lake]

n102

[keen vapor]

Miranda being Walmart Mica

[coarse lake]

milk is prob our best bet

[quick lake]

Gimme my treasure unit kits

[coarse lake]

if this was on burst it would be nice

[upper grove]

SU just has to fail next SR again

I need more compensation

[vapid lake]

wouldn't bet on it

[umbral crown]

Him and also the 320 boi with 4k boxes

[vapid lake]

next sr is green modernia so likely wont have gamebreaking bugs

[upper grove]

apparently it's modernia with extra parts

[vapid lake]

new boss of new chapter is more likely to have bugs

[quick lake]

CA bugs

[vapid lake]

[keen vapor]

SU also got this week to fix bugs for Solo raid

[vapid lake]

i dont have enough doll kits to sr15 rapi doll

[keen vapor]

Same

[umbral crown]

How much gems? 400k?

[upper grove]

Rapi will only get SR5 doll

[coarse lake]

sr5's prob fine

mg dolls are trash, low prio

[upper grove]

MG dolls

[vapid lake]

rapi deserve the best she waited 2 years for this

[keen vapor]

For 2026? I hope so

[upper grove]

rapi doesn't help me hit kraken though

[swift mango]

Looking at Eva Collab 2, they likely won't rerun units even if they do 2nd re:zero collab

[quick lake]

Yeah

[swift mango]

My MLB Rem was my first unit that got 4OL, I did use a few rocks on getting max ammo lines. Other than that, I rarely use her now.

I guess she is good B2 when I need to use Cindy to hit Blacksmith

[thorn pagoda]

Rem was really useful back then when i was new to nikke. she healed better than Emma and got me really far in the campaign and solo raid

stopped using Rem in pvp just a few months ago, she was that OP due to skill & gear investment

[bleak shale]

i hope sr bugs 3 times again so i get 3x loot

[swift mango]

Let's think bigger. Bug 69 times.

[swift mango]

SG may be better in Defense team than you think. They pressure p5 when opponent attack you so an annoyance when they build team and they don't have 2 Jackal. Ofc only one SG per team.

[coarse lake]

not really, sanis is the only sg that is good in pvp

the rest are filler roles or make minimal impact

the problem with sgs is how many ppl know about scar jack, and how easy it is for a scar jack to win

with cindy, that is even more the case

[swift mango]

Everyone know about Scar-Jack, everyone their grandmother's use them.

[coarse lake]

we don't even have to use clip sgs for gen as much anymore, kept getting pseudo clip rls

[upper grove]

Should I go for Liter if RL speed is the same? My Liter is full invested unlike mica who is 1/1/1 0 OL

[swift mango]

A whole team RL only hit p1-2 is much easier to beat than 1 SG mixing in. Unless you Scarlet-Jackal that team.

[thorn pagoda]

what do you think about bunny Soda?

and her burst

[coarse lake]

here's the problem, both jackal and biscuit exist, hard counter, now cindy also exists, if old account, makima also exists

4 hard counters to any sg, assuming you don't just facetank it, a lot of comps can afford it, p5 dying right before burst not being an issue to some

[coarse lake]

niche

on attack maybe to take advantage of ele bonus, on defense no

[thorn pagoda]

bunny soda is my most powerful nikke, so she always kicked ass in pvp
i didn't know she was niche

[coarse lake]

you can use sg on attack to kill crucial p1 sure

she's a mid nuker, needs 2 buffs

[swift mango]

You overestimate how much people having built all the counters for them. Especially before lv401. Even older guys coming here without their Makima built.

[thorn pagoda]

with quantum cube, bunny soda is a little better perhaps

[coarse lake]

only cindy needs to be built

makima just needs to exist, sgs literally cannot kill her before burst

[swift mango]

Well, built for CP padding.

[coarse lake]

well sure

the thing is, you don't see anyone using makima these days either

bc biscuit jackal is more than enough to deal with sgs, and now cindy is even better than makima (unless dealing with 5x hyperbuilt sgs or something)

[umbral crown]

I mean now, how much you have

[coarse lake]

SG usage rates for top tier cookers is probably like 95% sanis, 4.5% noir, 0.5% other units now

before cindy you did see some ppl using double/single buff SG dps in their defense, now you just use cindy, 0 buff needed, can use the slots for gen to make up for low gen

sgs aside from noir and sanis simply have bad pvp kits is another major issue

raw dmg, needing 2 buffers for good nuke, the rest fall into these 2 camps

[swift mango]

Well, guess that will change when CA a thing.

It's more complicated in lower bracket and when dealing with Level gapped whale. A random whale team with SG throwing it is harder to counter than full RL team, simply because they could now kill p1-2-5 before burst and your biscuit can only protect 2.

Jackal doesn't help against that either, she and her link would just die.

[coarse lake]

yes CA will make sgs more relevant for a while simply bc of 5 teams, and not having enough good pvp units to use them, so will have to use sgs

a cp diff whale team with sg really isn't that much more threatening, just need a p2 that you can afford to lose, it's not really a matchup you should expect to win anyway unless they cannot burst

[swift mango]

Even without CP diff because your OL lines are all 20+ in rank. And they hardly have their Arena units built. There would still be the stat gap from pure level alone.

You could beat whales who only build DPS in Arena up to 60 lv diff. But they would always able to kill you with normal attack starting 40 lv diff if your units p1-5 aren't super tanky.

[coarse lake]

just use biscuit

[swift mango]

For one team, and can only protect 2 like I said.

[coarse lake]

1 team is all you need

if they have 2 teams that cp diff or stat diff you enough that p2 dies to non-subdps rl splash before burst, you're not winning the matchup regardless

[swift mango]

I got successful def against a 40 level gapped guy once in a blue moon. I think it was because he loss to my biscuit team and Moran/p1, Cindy p5 team lol...

[coarse lake]

how much cp diff

[swift mango]

I don't know what he used for attack. But he certainly could CP diff me over 20% if her used his Raid units to form 3 team to attack lol...

I doubt he did so

[coarse lake]

and yes biscuit setups are the most reliable against slight cp diff

[strong hull]

pretty good def blood-kun

however im still demoted to dia 10

[swift mango]

Now that I think again, this topic has nothing to do with SG in Defense team

[swift mango]

That used up their 4 strikes rewards it's good enough.

[strong hull]

I have to malding campaign for more resource lol

Pretty sure Noah jackal OL keeping them awhile