pvp-arena

[swift mango]

Did he upgrade his arena units or just putting more CP gap now?

[umbral crown]

just more cp but i also think he got some dolls upgrades, his team 1 which is been the same, gained like 60k cp

or better OL lines

[swift mango]

Okay so he's not more arena invested than my new whale. Which only 1.6m at 370+... But he used 2 meta team.

[umbral crown]

the one in my bracket has 2 decent teams, and 3rd team is cp pad

but im sure with proper teams he still could be more competitive

[swift mango]

Whale level is too high. They could literally use their PvE 3 teams and it would be more effective than using meta teams to beat plebs lol

I think putting some zero upgrade arena units may just make them weaker

Did you play daily?

[umbral crown]

probalby haha

[tribal tartan]

Yes

[swift mango]

Did you get to ch17 in 1 week?

[umbral crown]

nebula just staying 199 with his whale account

[swift mango]

I think it's the standard campaign rushing now.

[tribal tartan]

I’m at uhhh ch16 rn

[swift mango]

In 1 week?

[tribal tartan]

I think so

[tribal tartan]

No whale, just brick

[swift mango]

That much difference should be like 20lv top when you get to lv201+ anyway.
And some early whale could quit as well so don't lose hope.

[tribal tartan]

-3000 gems

[swift mango]

The level rush is more demanding now than before and would require you to dedicate all day in the first week to play campaign.

And also reroll for best units

[tribal tartan]

Rerolling too hard 😔

[swift mango]

I won't start alt for Arena or medals if I don't have times to reroll and no life the game for a week.

[tribal tartan]

I just wanted to pvp a little

But the top is always whales

[swift mango]

This time of the year with Black Friday and Christmas? It's just whale festival I guess

[tribal tartan]

I don’t understand how they got past 160 so fast

Oh maybe opening boxes 🤔

[swift mango]

Just roll strategically and having some luck.

[swift mango]

You mean exp for level up? If they did that in 1 week then it's just whaling. Nothing else.

Some early whale will quit in a month anyway. 5 whale bracket would be 1-2 whale bracket in 2 months with the same guys.

I wasn't even top 10 2-4 week in. But top3 now.

[tribal tartan]

I just have to hope now

[umbral crown]

me this season

spent like 3.5k

[swift mango]

I spent like 100 in day 2 and it's already a waste

How is that peace?

[umbral crown]

but thats kinda normal, been months since i did not spend any single gem on pvp

[swift mango]

Did you spent 3500 to attack the whale just for 2 wins?

[umbral crown]

si

thats the only rival i could get

but im not strong enough yet haha

[swift mango]

You are at 80 level gap range so ofc it's impossible.

[keen vapor]

Blood, where's your kek

Where you reacted

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Where

[swift mango]

Maybe time to upgrade your campaign team.

Crown+Liter/DKW at least

So even if you want to whale for level you won't be so much behind in story and need that more money per level

[swift mango]

Crown is a very strong off burst buffer in arena so you would lose nothing, really convenient to have.

Liter is also a strong buffer in Arena. DKW is a weak buffer that doesn't feed. Rouge has a bit more burst Regen than normal SR but her positioning make it kinda hard to use.

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

How we doing my homies?

[umbral crown]

liter was one of the first nikkes i got and she still is not full OL

[rich quail]

Same

I’m a filthy pvp enthusiast

[swift mango]

What about your DKW and Rouge?

[rich quail]

let me check

[swift mango]

You would know if you upgraded them lol

[umbral crown]

in the dust

[rich quail]

DKW: all t9m+0 gear, 4/5/4, R0 doll

[keen vapor]

Just as MA recipe it

[rich quail]

Rouge: all t9m+0 gear, 4/4/4, R0 doll

[swift mango]

Then how is your Liter?

Since you already wrote down the other 2

[keen vapor]

Skill 1 at 5

[rich quail]

Liter: 2 OL+0, 2 t9m+0, 10/5/8, SR0 doll

Keep in mind I was pve for 10 months before learning about pvp

[swift mango]

Why not 4 OL her then?

[keen vapor]

Burst isn't at 10 :deadge:

[rich quail]

Because I got into pvp

[umbral crown]

mine is 7-4-7 since long ago

[swift mango]

My DKW was already at 10/10/10 4 OL Max out doll 7 months in.

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

And stopped building Liter after that

[keen vapor]

This time, this time I'll get 3%

[rich quail]

When did DKW come out? Early this year right?

[swift mango]

You said you PvE for 10 months

[rich quail]

I believe so

August 2023 until maybe June 2024

[swift mango]

That 10 months are more than enough to max out Liter.

I was splitting half-half and still maxed my DKW

In like 7 months lol

[rich quail]

I was a casual pve player before becoming a pvp enthusiast

So I didn’t really min/max characters

[swift mango]

Some people max out their liter in like 4 months even

[swift mango]

Time to 10/5/10 and 4ol, lv5SR doll her I guess.

[rich quail]

If I remember correctly, I was mostly relying on S.Anis, Blanc and Alice. Started to watch YT videos about team comps early this year

I wasn’t really all that dedicated. Just casually learning how units worked and who was good

[umbral crown]

probably in 2026 if i do not get RH next year

[rich quail]

I do have to build up some pve units soon because I need to push the 2 new campaign chapters and go through tower for more gems

[swift mango]

Well I guess that's why you aren't topping your SP arena even after all in into PvP.

Because you was falling behind in campaign even before that 🤔

[rich quail]

But there are also a lot of jerks in my sp arena group that make me very angry

So I get sidetracked and buff my pvp units again

Because I am very petty and vengeful

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

It’s because I’m usually 40 sync levels below everyone

[swift mango]

At least 4ol her, it only takes 2 week. And 1 week dispatch to doll her to Sr lv5.

Those are minimum investment for your campaign already.

[rich quail]

So my def is not going to keep out anyone

But my atk, I can take out almost anyone but the 3 whales in my bracket

[umbral crown]

but but i do not use her for campaign, usually moran and rosanna

[swift mango]

With that much investment she is 10x better than your Moran 10/10/10 max out

[rich quail]

I don’t climb sp because I did that for one full season and I climbed all the way up to C2, but it cost way too many gems to stay on top, so I stopped pushing for rank

But I proved to myself I could go high

[swift mango]

For campaign

[umbral crown]

hmmm

[swift mango]

Moran could be useful though in boss stage but that's along side Liter.

I used Moran to clear h16-17 bosses.

In which she just absorb dmg and ded.

[umbral crown]

i might be there.. in 2025

[swift mango]

And how is your crown? Btw

[umbral crown]

7-7-7 with 3/4 OL SR0

[swift mango]

I guess she is almost there.

[umbral crown]

yeah, slowly getting the way

[keen vapor]

: Crown wut:

[rich quail]

@keen vapor look

I have 59 ammo for Scarlet

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

I don't have the shame to tell you to minimum invest Naga as well because I didn't even do that.

Maybe max out your Rapunzel and use her instead.

For healing Crown

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

I see many use Rapu instead of Naga in campaign mob stages

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

naga was for months 1-1-1, now she is 4-4-4

[rich quail]

That’s a good start

[keen vapor]

Just bc I didn't had Naga

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Well, I doubt people at level 400+ in lowest cl clear record would not have Naga. They just use Rapu instead.

Tons of them actually

Just check 34-38

Or any hard stage you are in

[keen vapor]

Well, behemoth is coreless

[coarse lake]

wot

[night ingot]

Hello people ! Anyone can recommend teams for 1v1 and 3v3 arena please ? Thanks 🙂

[kindred tinsel]

bricked?

[coarse lake]

are you sorting by lowest cp and at least past week

[keen vapor]

See? It doesn't makes sense

[swift mango]

Just check the hard stage you are stuck at. Cross down you should see many Rapu instead of Naga.

[coarse lake]

the only time I can think of ppl using rapu is in the super early stages where most ppl can't build optimal teams

[swift mango]

Well, just cross down. Don't just look at the top guys only lol

[keen vapor]

THIS

[swift mango]

I didn't say Rapu is better but there are tons using her instead of Naga. Even if it cost them some level to beat the stage they could with Naga.

[coarse lake]

what are the settings you want me to search by

[swift mango]

Rosy already falling behind lots and all in into Arena

[swift mango]

Just look at the record

[coarse lake]

0 rapu

[swift mango]

A keep crossing

[coarse lake]

I know for a fact

bc I look at last month lowest clears every few stages for the last..... dozen or so chapters

also what do you mean keep crossing

[graceful grotto]

Scarlet Blanc rh Noir Jackal

Rumani Biscuit S.anis Sugar Tia

Bay Centi Pepper Anis Cinderella

[swift mango]

Keep crossing until you out of lowest clear lol

[graceful grotto]

Check RL

[coarse lake]

wat? how would you even do that

[night ingot]

Thanks @graceful grotto !

[swift mango]

I just open the stage I stuck at at and 2/10 already with Rapunzel.

Not efficient or anything.

[coarse lake]

what recommended cp is that stage

[swift mango]

About that much lol

[coarse lake]

I have this guy clearing this 910k cp stage

emma is meta

if ppl are that close to recommended, literally anything goes as long as they got a single meta dps

you can make 4 R units and 1 rh work

[swift mango]

Well my stage is the bottle neck stage and I only have like 20 people clear it last week.

[vapid lake]

these guys are like day 1 players who didn't bother to push hard campaign until they're blue cp, they're not the sweats

they chilling

[swift mango]

No way you could do thay

[coarse lake]

if you're at recommended, you can make it work prob

[vapid lake]

you can use anything at blue cp

[swift mango]

That stage throw 40 hit count rock at you first thing in the first second. No way R units could beat it at recommend

[coarse lake]

eh there are plenty R units with mgs

[swift mango]

The just don't have the dmg.

You could try your R units into campaign

[coarse lake]

well the point I'm making is, if you invested into R units enough and bring on a rh to the point that you're at recommended, you can make it work

or low invest R units but a rh so high lvl that it evens out

your rh being able to 1 shot mobs uncharged outside of burst

[swift mango]

There was one guys specialist in in no pull campaign since stage of the game and he struggle at blue in many stage

[night ingot]

And for 1v1 arena I just take T1 right ? Scarlet Blanc rh Noir Jackal

[coarse lake]

yeah he doesn't have meta dps

[swift mango]

If you could be better player than him then I would be crazy

[coarse lake]

you underestimate how much a few meta units can carry you when at blue cp

[swift mango]

You was saying clearing with blue.

[coarse lake]

1 rh + 4 r can be done

[swift mango]

RH only has 10/40 sec window of damage

[coarse lake]

at that cp a built rh 1 taps mobs without burst

[swift mango]

She will be killed in the 30s doing nothing

[coarse lake]

rh b2 and nothing kills her

snipes won't even do close to half

[swift mango]

That's just 10 seconds

In 40

[coarse lake]

non-burst kill all mobs until boss, burst for boss, worst case, rh b1/b2 for mobs, rh b3 for boss, done

the point I'm making is, once you start approaching blue cp, literally anything goes if you got even one or two meta units in your team

[swift mango]

She could kill trash mobs but ammo and reload problem without crown.

Elite doesn't go down with normal attack even at blue.

You underestimating those enemies units just because you play with full meta team.

[coarse lake]

nothing is a challenge, you can auto it with a few meta pilgrims, with the exception of a few rare gimmick stages where you gotta manually do the mechanic

[swift mango]

Liter is literally better than RH if you want to clear with a R squad

[coarse lake]

rapu being used by such ppl means nothing, when I got this guy using pepper a bit aways from blue

[swift mango]

Rosy is such people

[coarse lake]

liter doesn't have such dps

[swift mango]

It mean something.

[coarse lake]

no it doesn't

[swift mango]

So does RH off burst

[coarse lake]

replace rapu with anyone that matches cp and you're good

[swift mango]

She have nothing but more charge speed

The rest of her skill Is tied to her burst

Any rare RL with OL should perform the same.

Roundly.

[keen vapor]

Pepper my beloved

[coarse lake]

that actually makes no sense but ok, let's go more extreme

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

5x R units can clear most mob stages at blue cp

[swift mango]

Still need a built pepper. Which is worse than rapu in a way

[swift mango]

Most is the key word

[coarse lake]

what is the point you're trying to get at

if any stage you're approaching blue cp, you got a bad comp or you got bad strats, no matter the stage

[swift mango]

I was saying her Max out PVP rapu will help Rosy more than her 4/4/4 no OL no doll Naga

You don't need blue for that

[coarse lake]

the only reason that would ever apply would be rapu providing such an insane amount of cp over unbuilt naga

[swift mango]

That's basically what I daid

[coarse lake]

that has nothing to do with rapu, but rather due to cp stacking to blue

[swift mango]

Not needing blue to clear with rapu though

[coarse lake]

and if you ever plan to move away from blue cp clearing, you're gonna want to replace rapu with naga

[swift mango]

There are tons of guy clearing at red with rapu

Just the stage I stuck at people often blue it.

And only less than 20 people clear it last week

[coarse lake]

check last month

and sort by lowest

[mighty haven]

[swift mango]

Ofc lowest will be with Naga wtf..

[coarse lake]

ok now what's the argument for more rapu invest over naga

[swift mango]

Did we get over this already?

[swift mango]

Because Rosy is Arena maniac?

[coarse lake]

last I checked 3k gems is the max you can get bi-weekly from SP arena

meanwhile more pve clears means more sync lvl, which rosy does actually need, and also more gems from raid

[swift mango]

She spent 3500 this season

[coarse lake]

rapu invest won't change that 1 bit

[swift mango]

Nothing to do with efficient usage

[coarse lake]

if rosy wants to hyperinvest into rapu, then sure, but to suggest it as advice from an outside perspective has no merit imo

0 tangible benefit, resources better used elsewhere

same reason that if someone is a flora fanatic, I ain't gonna suggest them to minmax flora

if they want to despite advice, sure it's their acc, but I'll never advise it

[swift mango]

Eh higher skill CP pad and heal more. It has merit. Or else you could keep your arena healer at 1/1/1 and never level them up. It's same principle

Just more mats

[coarse lake]

if you're easily top 3 in SP and do well in rookie, there is no merit in higher pvp invest, esp on a unit like rapu, as soon as she can live a double buff scar nuke, past that is almost no returns

esp on an acc that has such poor pve teams

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/lurking-creepyguy-plant-gif-11665121

[swift mango]

Well, someone doesn't weirdly into Arena as much as other lol

[coarse lake]

more pvp invest where rosy is at = benefits ego assuming it even helps them win
more pve invest where rosy at = insane value (more core dust and gem income)
It's a no-brainer

[rich quail]

[coarse lake]

I don't care what pvp addicts do, they can max out base anis to be their highest cp for pvp purposes. You'll never catch me advising it or agreeing they should do it if they ask me if they should

if they do it anyway, that's their decision

[swift mango]

Well, I'm clearing campaign at 20% deficit without Naga so she will be fine.

No one need Naga to get out of blue clearing.

[coarse lake]

naga will let you clear more campaign vs rapu assuming same cp

[swift mango]

I don't even use both

[coarse lake]

even if you're not a pve sweat, there's no way you wouldn't know what the meta comps are, and why it's good to build them

[swift mango]

I know but I have my priority. My Sr 15 max out everything B3 is better than Naga minimal investment for the moment.

I would 10/10/5 Naga when I'm done with my priority

[coarse lake]

I still don't see a valid reason to suggest someone further invest in their high invest rapu over investing in their low invest naga

[swift mango]

If she didn't get powercrept that is.

[swift mango]

I just said that in the spurt moment, she could use her Rapu as is.

Over no invested Naga when she need healing

My bad if it is what cause problems this far.

[coarse lake]

then yes they can rn, simply due to raw cp, but if it's to suggest who to invest into, the answer is obviously naga

[swift mango]

Well, believe Naga will be powercrept in Campaign sooner or later. While Rapu will always stay in Arena meta at least for another 5 years.

[mighty haven]

[rich quail]

[mighty haven]

[swift mango]

Anyway, just as AgentEon said, don't need to Upgrade Rapu. But you could use your upgraded rapu as is in mob stages before you invested into Naga. She also very good for 34-38.

My bad.

[keen vapor]

@strong hull this took me 20 minutes lol

For the first team you can use Maid Privaty, Ein or even Rei as burst 3, whoever will work

For third team, is too slow for my liking, you either keep that or press auto for third team

Surely team 2 holds up

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

Now, I have to recook my own defense, I got wrecked :deadge:

[strong hull]

Team 1 doesnt work actually

I used it

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

How

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

Swap burst 3

[vapid lake]

cooking defense for someone else then immediately afterwards saying his own defense not strong

[keen vapor]

@strong hull tbh my preferred option is Rei but looks more uninvested so go for Maid Privaty

[swift mango]

There is no strong defense though especially if you were 🧱.

[graceful grotto]

yeah that would work

[keen vapor]

I mean, if he already had that

[strong hull]

I was thinking about rei A but she even worse than ein🚮

Maybe i will OL all of them

[keen vapor]

@strong hull wait, what's the problem? Firepower or Blanc dying?

[umbral crown]

sounds like what Thiend dude would do

[umbral crown]

[strong hull]

Team get wiped very fast

[keen vapor]

Actually doesn't matter, just put Liter in P1 and burst 3 in P3

[keen vapor]

Don't go against Scarlet jackal

[strong hull]

Not a single vestment on t1

But yea still can clutched those whale, im only 8k diff

[keen vapor]

For your B3 options the most ideal choice will be Rosanna as B1 but that's high investment required :deadge:

[rich quail]

Can I have your Ein pls?

[swift mango]

She is kinda a stronger wipe than Ein though.

[strong hull]

Situation same as me cooking SR

[umbral crown]

[strong hull]

1 1 1 no OL no doll

[rich quail]

I’ll take her

[strong hull]

👍

[rich quail]

[swift mango]

My no lb Ein 1/1/1 is yours if you can take her.

[rich quail]

yes pls

Give me all your Eins

[strong hull]

Alr this def team look better than blood one

Can feel that

[rich quail]

shots fired

[keen vapor]

Cook for me please MA

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

..... I'm thinking Noah/Biscuit/Summer Anis/RH/Rapunzel bud

[swift mango]

How do you know my def team look like

[strong hull]

I do really like ur Crown + flora def

But unfortunately theyre slow

[rich quail]

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

And the other two teams ?

[swift mango]

Haha if that's what you mean, they are just CP pad team.

[mighty haven]

[keen vapor]

What were you against again?

[strong hull]

[umbral crown]

[graceful grotto]

Echo is taking his name too literally

[umbral crown]

you are amateur, you should know

gets demoted to rookie

[keen vapor]

This I lose this exact match, Rapunzel resurrects and wrecks me

[strong hull]

I should ask myself a SR teams too

[keen vapor]

Just do Moran biscuit summer anis

[keen vapor]

Oi don't laugh, you'll lose MA points now

[umbral crown]

imagine losing and also living to 2nd burst

[keen vapor]

Not my MA points I worked hard for it

[swift mango]

I just checked Prydwen tier list so I will cook for you.

Jackal+Noah+Biscuit+ASS+Scarlet

Is your best SSS team.

[keen vapor]

Resurrect is on first burst, Noise dies

[keen vapor]

jackal burst no

[umbral crown]

still

[grizzled bone]

Time for demotion

[swift mango]

She is SSS rank

[umbral crown]

347 at 431k

[swift mango]

Her burst is SSS

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

arroba error, go demote echo

[strong hull]

Demotion indeed

[keen vapor]

:Deadge: 🪦

[strong hull]

It took you 2 days for my pvp teams while only took me 5secs to build for you a 5 teams SR

[keen vapor]

SR is easy is just watching at records

[swift mango]

Thien MA soon

[keen vapor]

He is...

[graceful grotto]

Time for promotion

[swift mango]

Not in points like you

[graceful grotto]

[keen vapor]

[graceful grotto]

U did ur SR?

[strong hull]

Those ppl with lacking characters cant do that

[strong hull]

Nope im testing Flora

[graceful grotto]

You got her?

[swift mango]

Those people can't compete in SR anyway. Just one team stage 7 and peace.

[keen vapor]

And again, 20 minutes

[strong hull]

Tbh i went to my community chat these day to helping them(i have to leave team building for a while)

[graceful grotto]

You betrayal

[strong hull]

Theyre ruined SR team

[graceful grotto]

[strong hull]

I meant my community hopeless

[tribal tartan]

Betrayal!

[graceful grotto]

You didn't help me with my SR

[strong hull]

Dw ill back 24/7 at 24/12/2024

👍

[graceful grotto]

Wtheck you back on Christmas Eve

[swift mango]

@coarse lake

It was my bad but the stage is only like 590k power requirements.

But here is top 10 of the month and week for it.

This stage doesn't need healing if you have mordernia burst to wipe the screen.

At the beginning
You see they all use Rapunzel for low clear just fine

[keen vapor]

ET

[rich quail]

[grizzled bone]

[rich quail]

Heard u got demoted

[keen vapor]

No

[rich quail]

Caishen now ranked higher than u

At ease Private Echo

[keen vapor]

Caishen

Have mercy

[rich quail]

[swift mango]

@umbral crown

[coarse lake]

that isn't low clear

[swift mango]

Top 10 lowest of the month is low enough for common player

[coarse lake]

and you're ommitting the fact that the rest of the team hard carries

[swift mango]

They still need Rapu to win

[coarse lake]

rapu is the least valuable member in that setup, unless it's a farter

no they don't, they need someone high cp

[swift mango]

The rocks will kill at least one member, who rapu revive

[coarse lake]

notice how many runs are healer-less

if you have mod or iframe, the hitcount rocks are no issue

[swift mango]

Without Mordenia it's the obvious results.

[strong hull]

[coarse lake]

and again that's a very specific situation that typically requires mod

[swift mango]

If you can Iframe 30 rock that fall in 1-2 second overlap then you have god hands. Not everyone have that hand.

[coarse lake]

I can count how many of those types of stages I've encountered in the past several chapters on one hand

[umbral crown]

modernia is just getting dust i could give her away to ET

[coarse lake]

rosy even got mod

[umbral crown]

since day 1

[swift mango]

That's just one more PVE unit to upgrade

[umbral crown]

one of the first pilgrims in the first week

[swift mango]

That team used all Arena units to get top 10 of the month

[umbral crown]

i did reset her tho

[coarse lake]

all arena units, you mean 1 arena unit

[swift mango]

Ein, Rapu, RH, Scarlet, Crown(more or least arena)

[swift mango]

What?

[coarse lake]

bruh if you consider crown arena unit, everyone that's meta is an arena unit

[swift mango]

Crown is kinda. But the other 3 can be used in arena just fine.

Sometime you just need crown off-burst buff to beat a tanky whale

[rich quail]

I’ll give u my Crow 1lb

[coarse lake]

that puts the definition of arena unit so wide it basically encompasses 90% of pve meta units in the game

[strong hull]

I did post a full 5 teams and also some situational teams too

You can rely on it

[swift mango]

Bruh 90% units in the game is useless to use.

They are all PvE units

[coarse lake]

the types of arena units rosy is pouring invest into are the actual arena units, moran, rosanna, nero, the types useless in pve

if rosy had all viable arena units built, they would be like 5+ chapters ahead, running with crown liter rh cindy/bscar/alice flex

[swift mango]

Liter is much least Arena relevant than Crown I would say

[worthy knoll]

Hey my Nero is not useless in PvE

[keen vapor]

Merry

[worthy knoll]

[coarse lake]

nah liter > crown for pve, simply bc no competing for b2

[copper creek]

u're right, shes beyond useless

[grizzled bone]

i knew you would chime in

[worthy knoll]

She deals as much as my Alice

[coarse lake]

but that's not the point, point is, rosy's account is extremely bricked, units good in both pve and pvp are likely min invest

they're not making a good team with their built arena units

[swift mango]

Crown is off burst buffer that's even less competition if you were typoing.

[rich quail]

[coarse lake]

liter is second best b1 buffer in pvp, maxwell fills same role as crown while not feeding, only liter competition that doesn't feed is rh

regardless, pretty sure rosy's liter and crown are both low invest

[swift mango]

She is investing in them. If you read the conversation up to where you cut in.

It's just Naga is not as important above that

[mighty haven]

[coarse lake]

if you look at rosy's acc, yeah naga isn't even top 10 in priority, that's how messed up it is

[rich quail]

[worthy knoll]

She tanks a lot in my case, and good bait for those triple chainers

[swift mango]

It's same for my acc.

[coarse lake]

bruh

[copper creek]

i dont believe u
give me a nero and the kits to invest for me to test and ill get back to you 🤣

[swift mango]

My DKW and Crown are maxed out skill and doll though.

[worthy knoll]

10/10/10 is the way with 4 atk lines

[coarse lake]

and your meta pilgrim dps?

[strong hull]

Ill let echo build my Bricked account as a Christmas gift.

[copper creek]

i dont have a nero even KEKW

[swift mango]

I will prioritize SBS over Naga in the future

But My RH is the same as Crown

[worthy knoll]

I don't also use Modernia whenever, there is a shield flying healer, as just gun it down with Blanc and a B3 like RH or Scar

For the birds with balls of 1 damage, just kill them before they can release, RH/Liter + Mari can kill them quick

[umbral crown]

I will give her to blood

[worthy knoll]

And still have your B3 nuke ready to standby in case they spawn more again after getting wiped

[strong hull]

Lol so bricked

[swift mango]

She will have to eat dust in my box for half a year at least I guess. But at least I would build her. Maybe.

[brittle hill]

have you tried delaying your burst

[keen vapor]

But, then he will end me while I try to burst

No I haven't

[umbral crown]

i still wonder why she is still on sync dev

[grizzled bone]

[swift mango]

Maybe because you don't compete for manufacture points medal in your bracket.

I'm trying to get my 50 gold medal. Everyone else in my top 10 Sp Arena have it. So I need to have it too.

[keen vapor]

I'm not even close to that

Getting whales sucks, now I don't care for frame

[coarse lake]

medals is just acc creation rng

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

my only sorta competition (not really) quite a few months ago

so now it's open season for me to do whatever

[brittle hill]

technically rapunzel is a small battery. You have to match his speed where his noise/noah procs first and then yours

[coarse lake]

had some tough competition in the initial weeks, another dude started tribe tower a bit earlier, took lead in 2/4 towers, a while before they started failing and falling behind

[swift mango]

Well, whales in my server quitted so I had a chance. But all early medal goteaten up by them before they quit.

[keen vapor]

But he uses Blanc he increases damage

[swift mango]

Need to go hard for the left overs

[brittle hill]

I hate blanc so nasty. I'm eyeing that Emelia combo once I can replace her in the scarlet blanc team

[umbral crown]

in pilgrim points im 2nd, the rest im first

[keen vapor]

I have to use Moran

[keen vapor]

I'm not close in any and I wonder why

[umbral crown]

i do also wonder

[glacial lion]

Maiden burst totally useless

[keen vapor]

Of course

Ah, I can fill Moran team with Maiden

[copper creek]

we tried telling everybody that on hour 2 and people dont believe us 🤣

[swift mango]

If you really need to compete with others in point. You would have to remove units from synchro machine and fill them with all Nikke of 1 manufacturer every now and then.

Unless you are a whale and could put everything into synchro

I mean every Nikke Including all blue ones.

[coarse lake]

try it against non-protected, even better if p1 is linked

I wanna see whose burst is shittier in pvp, laplace or maiden

[swift mango]

Why da heck u use it against Biscuit?

[glacial lion]

its 2-1 anw

it wont change final outcome

[swift mango]

Maiden does 2 hit of 1000% while Laplace does 1. I would say Maiden is stronger. Her burst is instantly too.

[coarse lake]

yeah but laplace's sustained dmg might be higher

[swift mango]

I use both to as 2rl to hit scarlet Blanc lol

The sustain dmg mean nothing in that case.

[brittle hill]

Laplace burst can't penetrate Noah's health even though I have the advantage so I replaced her with redhood

[coarse lake]

stop testing your dmg against biscuit setups

[swift mango]

Also, Maiden has self buff to her atK after bursting.

[coarse lake]

yeah it's that vs laplace's mid sustain dmg

[umbral crown]

i do not really care about those points, since im mostly skipping units haha i just do my watashi gambarimasu

[glacial lion]

maiden also 1 target?

[swift mango]

I would edge toward Maiden because she could be buffed by Noise. In a stall team so substance dmg would mean something.

[glacial lion]

i know it hit more hit with high mp, but in pvp it just 0...

[swift mango]

Now that you mentioned it I always assumed it hit 2 because of 1 mana but maybe not?

My bad I guess. I would need record and check to know this now....

Probably like you said...

[coarse lake]

2 bc of 2 mana

1 mana = 1 hit, impossible for her to burst with 0 mana

if she bursts first she only has 1 hit

[swift mango]

I'm lost here. Maybe you mean Iron> Wind? It's the other way around though.

[brittle hill]

Her laser pops because Summer anis is dead. If she had more firepower like redhood then it wouldn't be a problem at all to get rid of Noah

[coarse lake]

? what about their noah being invulned by biscuit

[swift mango]

Well, it still maybe 2 hit if you count her normal attack didn't stop for the Burst.

[brittle hill]

Oh, that too. Still, this is a success and I don't feel like switching to counter because I want to see it through (switched out laplace for RH)

[swift mango]

Maiden Burst happen instantly too, Laplace laser need time to fly to the target.

[coarse lake]

eh.... laplace initial hit is basically same speed

[swift mango]

Well one time my Laplace trigger but just ded firing her shoot out and deal no dmg.

You could see it clearer in PvE.

The boss is out of screen but still ded when XMaiden burst.

Laplace won't hit it.

The laser need to touch the mob for dmg.

[coarse lake]

laser is near instant, laplace has a bit of delay firing the laser, but maiden also has delay on icicles hitting

at least for pve, reason maiden hits boss is bc it auto targets

[swift mango]

It still has the same travel speed as normal RL shot. So roundly 0.2s

[coarse lake]

no laplace laser is faster, it's essentially hitscan

it's the windup time if anything

back when whiffs were still a thing, laplace was always the only one that never whiffed due to the near instant proj speed

[swift mango]

Then it would never miss in PvE but she would always miss when a mob jump as she shot out.

XMaiden is real instantly, the mob could already jump out of screen before she even burst but still ded.

[coarse lake]

that has nothing to do with speed, but the fact that maiden locks onto mob with it

I checked my laplace footage, it's basically instant initial hit, no windup either

that 2.8mil

literally don't even see full burst timer yet

the actual problem with laplace is her dmg is trash

dmg result

she had 6 sec of bursting, that's how long it took to finish off essentially xanne + rh + rapu with her sustained burst hits

so I'm curious if xmaiden can do better

[swift mango]

If it happen instantly then Laplace would never miss shooting out her laser before the mob jump. But she would always miss.

[coarse lake]

there's probably some very small travel delay, and with laplace you actually got to aim it right on the mob

with maiden burst targeting, if there's a mob alive, anywhere, it'll hit it

[swift mango]

Auto aim though.

[coarse lake]

bc it hits the one closest to crosshair

[swift mango]

It move with the mob

[coarse lake]

auto aim is slow as hell moving the reticle

I've seen my units in event stages try to track a flying mob that's moving down for a solid 2 seconds before it stops

it was simply moving faster than the auto ai can track, so it wasn't getting hit until it stopped

[swift mango]

if no delay at all then the mob jump won't matter

[coarse lake]

mob prob jumped right as you bursted or right before

do you have vid

[swift mango]

Well Laplace is my campaign team so I saw that often but ofc I don't have any vid of my campaign play.

So yeah. Nvm then

[swift mango]

Also if the delay is 0.2 second it would ofc hit before full burst.

[brittle hill]

SR 15 doll on Noah and noise? I forgot what situation gets Noah killed because biscuit wasn't able to trigger the defender heal

[mighty haven]

[brittle hill]

ah that's if biscuit dies first

[swift mango]

You might need to get Noah to as close to 51% as possible without getting to 50% then one shot Noah I guess.

There was that one vid a week ago. Of one guy testing his XMaiden and did exactly that

[brittle hill]

yeah now I remember the video clip shared here. It was an uninvested maiden vs noah + biscuit

[tribal tartan]

Can someone stop norn from cooking pvp for solo raid?

[grizzled bone]

who?

[swift mango]

@coarse lake

Last you said about Maxwell vs Crown. Crown would buff more off burst. With a heal her skill 2 would trigger giving 20+% dmg buff. So not just attack buff and reload buff she already give out normally without worry about adjusting your B3 ATK.

Crown is also one of the few buffers that could buff Rossana. Just put crown in p1 with biscuit and Rossana will get the dmg buff from Crown s2.

[coarse lake]

yes that's assuming you have said heal

a rosa crown comp is niche af due to garbage gen

[swift mango]

If you use flora for p2 Sarc you could not bring biscuit as well. Lol

[coarse lake]

that's even more insanely niche

the only reason ppl use crown over maxwell for that off-burst buff role is that very few ppl got a built enough maxwell that's also high enough cp compared to crown

[swift mango]

Then add in Centi/Anis+Laplace both having 17% charge speed that would be a full 2.5RL team before counting Rossana s2.

[coarse lake]

that's so niche probably no one has even tried that comp yet

who tf gonna 17% cs those units, and use p2 flora sac with rosa

[quick lake]

Need to calc whether Rosanna can nuke still

[swift mango]

I have Laplace+ and Centi with those CS.

Just need Rosa and flora built

[coarse lake]

if you actually wanna have more reliable rosa snipe, you don't bother with crown flora meme setup

assuming your target is a rh (usually is, often the beefiest attacker), use ssakura

[swift mango]

Lol if it work it works I guess.

[coarse lake]

that's an actual consistent rosa snipe combo

without murdering your gen

[swift mango]

2.5rl is high enough already

[coarse lake]

that team has so many issues that you can prob count on 1 hand the situations where it'll work

[swift mango]

B3 Clip reload RL wiper when SU?

[coarse lake]

enemy team need to be completely inoperable after rosa snipe, if even emi is left you might die to it, unbuffed laplace doing close to nothing, you got no sustain, you run into severe cp issues with sac flora, rosa could pre-burst if dealing with p1 scar

[quick lake]

[coarse lake]

there are only 2 sac setups I know of worth considering, and 1 of them is only really good against a specific (but common comp), the other is scar/mast/xanne/rosa/jackal

[quick lake]

Im more worried about SR15 RH + Noise buff

[coarse lake]

honestly anything other than scar mast will be extremely niche

[quick lake]

Wont jackal link with Ros here, losing dmg on her?

[coarse lake]

rosa taking linked dmg doesn't dispel

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

Well, in that case of sarc though, they won't ever burst anyway before you kill their whole team with Laplace+, unless they have biscuit to stall it.

And since I would only use it for attacking, ofc I won't attack a biscuut

So it doesn't matter

[coarse lake]

you're also at risk of losing gen yourself from your p1 dying

I can't think of a situation where you would use that comp ngl

non-bursting ssakura + rosa is enough to deal with beefy rhs

[swift mango]

How? If both p1+2 died then it would be 1rl team

Even better

[coarse lake]

actually yeah if p1 dies you're still fine there, but their team better be paper thin and without scarlet after the snipe

you underestimate how trash unbuffed laplace dmg is

[swift mango]

Well, buff from crown s2

And you could replace Laplace+ with Xmaiden now...

Ofc I need to fish CS for her first....

[coarse lake]

or, you just use ssakura or noir

or counter it another way

0 situations where you have to rosa snipe

never encountered an SP matchup where I need to rosa snipe

I only use my rosa to scare off ppl as a def team

unreliable due to the possibility of not 1 shotting

[swift mango]

One day SU would release a B3 Clip RL instant no-buff wiper. That would be the day the meta change forever.

[coarse lake]

eh.... another top tier dps, but I don't see it being game breaking

emilia is already essentially like that, but delayed, which has its pros and cons

they'll prob need double buffer too

[swift mango]

Emilia need 2 buffs at least lol

Just make Cindy Clip RL is what I meant.

Make her burst with no delay too

[coarse lake]

that ain't ever happening tbh

would that even change that much... it'll let you run double 2rl teams, one with cindy and one with that, with 0 buffer needed ig

cindy can already reach 2rl

no delay would be a benefit yeah

well with how they love to pump out sg b3 nukers that require 2 buffer, I don't see it happening unless pilgrim unit

[swift mango]

You should have 3 x 2 RL team with that addition.

[coarse lake]

and tbh... cindy is only like that bc of bug, intended dmg is half

which means cindy by design still needed at least 1 buffer

[swift mango]

And idk, team building would be much easier to add support units.

Rather than needing slots for burst gen

[coarse lake]

we need more support units

gen isn't even that big of an issue these days, it's b1 and b2 supports that actually do something useful

[quick lake]

Premium xmica pls

[swift mango]

Well, that could move the common speed to 2 RL rather than 3rl.

And with Rossana there could even be 1rl team.

[coarse lake]

b1 buffer options: rh, liter, high invest xmica (cope)
b2 options: blanc, noah, biscuit (usually used with blanc or noah), rest not impactful enough to mention

b3 dps options: half the standard units this year it feels like

moving to 2rl will take longer than that

[swift mango]

1 RL no buff wipe with Rossana snipe. Which team can beat it lol?

[coarse lake]

if you can barely reach 2rl on 3 teams, most still won't do it, bc there's almost no team flexibility

p1 p2 defender with biscuit cindy beats it easy

[swift mango]

Wipe though, just give it enough dmg to one shot everyone

[coarse lake]

and if you can reach 1rl with rosa, you can just do the same but a bit diff, 1rl noah

[swift mango]

Basically this game's version of Wisadel in Arknight 😂

[swift mango]

Rosa could give nearly 40% of burst gauge though. No one could give that much.

In one rl

[coarse lake]

with what? a sac?

enemy rosa benefits from the same sac, while having 5 functional units to avoid your rosa snipe

they can use your sac slot for a slightly faster gen and outsnipe you even

[full citrus]

hello pvp chat! i have new units can i get teems pleaz (my drunk scarlet isn't built)

[coarse lake]

well if 1rl sac it's prob tied tbh, idk what happens when 2 rosas are perfectly tied

[swift mango]

Maybe give her the 3 times the normal attack dmg of Laplace too then.

So you don't have to Sarc your team.

[quick lake]

3 B3 kinda circumvents 1RL rosanna too

[coarse lake]

bruh at that point just make a unit that at start of battle deals 3x cindy's dmg instant

[swift mango]

But their team instead

[coarse lake]

getting into territory that'll never happen

also with 1rl rosa, pretty sure she doesn't even get to remove link, can jackal link to live it probably

[swift mango]

I think she remove link before first RL hit... Or isn't it?

[coarse lake]

rosa is a way to make a defense team scary, and to let you do a lazy attack counter against teams that normally require at least 10 braincells to beat

mgs fire 5 shots in 1 rl

rosa needs 10 to dispell

so about 1.25rl, around there

rosa is one of those units that you think you need for pvp, but she's always just a nice-to-have

[mighty haven]

[coarse lake]

I did pvp for a very long time before building rosa, and I don't even use her on atk, munch still doesn't have a built rosa iirc

[swift mango]

So they feed 35 in 2rl according to burst feed chart. But only 7 in the first RL?

Hmm...

[coarse lake]

mgs gotta spool up

rosa is in the tier of moran and nero, units that are only good for pvp, if built gives you more options, but there will always be alternatives

if the rest of your pve and pvp roster aren't built well enough, don't even bother with rosa

[swift mango]

Yeah, I will build her next just to have the options.

Then come back to SBS before Naga. Lol

[coarse lake]

sbs over rosa easily

more useful in pvp and pve

sbs is one of the best units for attacking pvp

0 buff required, bypasses biscuit-less noah, doesn't feed, doesn't get stuck on biscuited blanc

[swift mango]

My arena units already lv7 on the one that needs it. And my campaign team can make do with 5xlv15 doll to just CP press the stage with time on the ones counter my teams.

[coarse lake]

sr15 doll purely for cp reasons ain't worth it

I just did it to my crown

barely a change, and the longer you play the less it matters since flat stats

sr15 your dps for stats

and also units for treasure (just laplace and exia these days)

[swift mango]

Exia is only for raid, basically useless to me.

I would upgrade units like Elegg before her for waifu reason.

And could also work in raid a little.

[hidden geode]

Man, do people have something automatic running to keep their positions in special arena? Been trying to take this guy's spot in the top 10 and before the battle animation even ends, the guy has kicked me back down. I wait an hour later and try to take his spot again and again, he immediately kicked me back down before battle animation ends. I wait a couple hours later and same thing, it's always immediate.

[coarse lake]

that sounds like botting yeah

[swift mango]

Report him if you think her used bots then.

[covert lintel]

but i used rosanna to clear campaign 28hard above and tower

[hidden geode]

How do I report them?

[coarse lake]

yeah? what deficit

[swift mango]

Click on their avatar. There should be a small button to report player last I misclicked on it.... Maybe I remember wrong. Not have my game opened right now

[covert lintel]

idk never calc but around -120k from rec power

[coarse lake]

tf she doing in that team? snipe boss?

or just filler slot

[swift mango]

At h28 with 120k deficit? That should be like 10% I bet

[covert lintel]

snipe some mob that has quick damage

[swift mango]

Or less?

[coarse lake]

why am I even entertaining this

[swift mango]

Maybe only 5%

[coarse lake]

there are a lot easier ways to do that than using rosa lol

[covert lintel]

[hidden geode]

I can't find the report button, I only see add friend and copy ID...

[swift mango]

There should be report button somewhere. Maybe in the add friend menu... You could try to add their id to search.

[covert lintel]

rn it's 210k, so hard

[swift mango]

16% deficit

So last time was 10% alright.

[covert lintel]

yes

[swift mango]

You are giving me the aspiration man. No need to try hard to go for above 20% deficit lol.

Just wishlist dupe for my built team and someday I would get there.

[vapid lake]

Why not using summer anis

Easy life

[swift mango]

ASS need to trigger 5-6 time to be equal to Rossana burst lol.

[covert lintel]

the cp will get down to around 950k. my dmg will be the same as poking enemies.

[vapid lake]

Rosanna 140k cp higher than sanis?

U been feeding that rosanna well

[coarse lake]

self perpetuating problem

the more you invest into non-pve meta units, the more you wanna use them due to high cp

which makes you invest more into them

well if you're whale enough to be close to blue cp at those hard chapters, ig you can do whatever

not much loss from not being able to full clear hard

[vapid lake]

Sanis meta in both pvp and pve, i didnt think he would feed rosanna more

140k gap is pretty big

[hidden geode]

Found the support page to try and report the guy for hacking, never had to do this before so idk how effect Shift Up is at this sort of thing.
Tried to battle the guy again after changing my defense team setup and this time it only took like 3 minutes for them to take it back... So idk if they're constantly checking their PvP position or if botting can also take into account changes in defense?

[covert lintel]

no, my bad it's around 30k diff
so it would be 1050

[vapid lake]

[vapid lake]

I think u can beat if u play sanis over rosanna

Scarlet dont need to burst

[coarse lake]

It's not even electric weak smh

Use naga like a sane person

[vapid lake]

I just assume pvp player doesnt have naga invested

[coarse lake]

Honestly idk why more ppl aren't both pvp and pve focus

Not as hard as it seems

The meta pvp exclusive units aren't actually that many, and they require little invest

[tropic summit]

[covert lintel]

can't
i used any meta char that i have, only rosanna can get closer to win.
maybe because that deficit is lower? 🤔

[vapid lake]

I guess so

[quick lake]

Man, pvp is so fun yet hard

Cooking, but still losing

[unkempt kestrel]

how bad is it if my noise have ammo and att line

prydwen said ammo is not prefered

[limber patrol]

She doesn't need anything... maybe could use defense I guess....
And probably charge speed.

I think the priority is just combat power...

[vapid lake]

max ammo on noise bad? someone explain

I wanna expand brain too

[grizzled bone]

max ammo affects her S2

[limber patrol]

How?

[grizzled bone]

i think prydwen probably says its not preferred because it will technically affect her taunting (when auto-ing)

also

when she reloads she loses her max hp buff because she stops refreshing. She “heals” up when triggering max hp buff again
@glad meteor

[covert lintel]

isn't it to make opponent nikke miss when noise reload?🤔

[grizzled bone]

prydwens recommendation for ammo is more pve based i think

[quick lake]

In pvp at least, Noise heals after she reloads. So more ammo means heal is "delayed"

In pve, Noise ammo is alright/(good) assuming u manual her

[tropic summit]

both of what Rheax and Caishen said is on point

[quick lake]

In PvP unlikely Noise will shoot 6 ammo before she dies or opponent burst, so max ammo lines or not doesnt matter that much imo

[unkempt kestrel]

ight ty. i guess the att will just be cp padding

[grizzled bone]

yeah thats why i think their ammo comment is more based for pve content

[grizzled bone]

just whel

[quick lake]

[harsh echo]

Maybe i should have stayed at challenger 10

[grizzled bone]

nah you gotta make sure others gem so they fund the servers

[vapid lake]

the one guy who gems is no longer in my bracket so i cant do my part anymore

[grizzled bone]

i calculated someones gemming last season, got him over 4k

[mighty haven]

[loud sonnet]

Finally 24h on C2

[blissful willow]

Why would you need ammo for PvE
This is purely PvP based

Noise can live for 6 shots a lot of times

A lot of times she and noah are paired together

3rl = 4-4.5 shots when burst happens

Getting 2 more shots isn't unrealistic :3

[rich quail]

Does it make a difference with stall teams?

[blissful willow]

I mean
You heal noise = makes a difference since noise can tank a bit more

It's all about keeping your DPS alive innit 🪖

[rich quail]

yupppp

[rich quail]

[fathom rock]

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[quick lake]

What are those teams

[umbral crown]

[strange linden]

how do I beat these comps? couldn't beat the two first one

[swift mango]

You could use the 3rd team to beat the 1st and 2nd.

[quick lake]

T1: 3RL Noah comp to block opponent's scarlet
T2: 3.5-4RL Noise Cindy + Biscuit team , or 2RL nuke before Noah invuln kicks in
T3: Just run 5 shotguns

[strange linden]

I just outcp the last team actually
the first one I tried a 2RL comp with scarlet nuke but his scarlet got indom in time and rekt me, second I tried BS Scarlet + blanc but she did 0 damage for some reason
still have a long way before I master pvp

[swift mango]

Team 1 could be faster with feed and CS. Team 2, hardly so so could try on this one.

Or just Blanc+Emilia team 2. Easy win.

[strange linden]

something like this then?

[swift mango]

Idk, are you sure your Noah will burst in time? If you had record you could check the enemy speed with your eyes.

[fathom rock]

"Pepega problems require pepega solutions"

[fathom rock]

Calc should show noah burst timer, check that

[swift mango]

Also, if their team is 2.5RL you should still be able to burst with Noise. At that point it's up to your investment if you could survive the slash. I certainly would flop to that though.

[strange linden]

I think I should give up the first one and focus on the two last teams, emilia can win on T2 and I can outcp the last team

[strange linden]

his scarlet is buffed with RH+blanc though, can I really survive that lmao

[cold steeple]

Is this winnable?

[strange linden]

@swift mango that was too close, I didn't expect some to survive

[keen vapor]

Team 1 yes but 2 and 3 keeps me thinking something will go wrong

[cold steeple]

I have that feeling too

[keen vapor]

I'd 2 RL Noah for round 2 and use jackal team for round 1 instead

Do you know how to do 2 RL Noah right?

[cold steeple]

Errr not quite

[fathom rock]

Swpa xanne with noah and jackal with emilia and maybe laplace for anis or rumani, for T1 swap noah with blanc and noise with jackal (put her p5)

[keen vapor]

Like that

[fathom rock]

I can cook pvp

[keen vapor]

You cook better 2 RL Noah than me

[fathom rock]

Bc it's my main team archetype

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[cold steeple]

Eh wait

Wrong image

[cold steeple]

Something like this?

[keen vapor]

Surely Biscuit and jackal have higher HP than Scarlet Alter

[fathom rock]

doesn't matter who gets indom T1 is free win and T2 will noah before enemy scar, even if scar dies still a win

[cold steeple]

Actually my sbs has higher hp than biscuit but not for jackal hehehe

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

You better are right on this MA

[cold steeple]

So basically if enemy use scarlet team I just use Noah to counter

[fathom rock]

That's 1 way to do it

[cold steeple]

Hmm my T2 scarlet and Noah get melted

[keen vapor]

Huh?

[fathom rock]

Noah got what

Scar was expected
But noah

[cold steeple]

Wait lemme record it

[keen vapor]

WHERE'S YOUR TEMPERING CUBE WHY ITS NOT ON NOAH

[fathom rock]

Change order to scar/emilia/noah/rh/rumani

[keen vapor]

Where is it

Why is not level 7

[cold steeple]

I didn’t even notice we have a new cube

[fathom rock]

The order I gave you would still lose

Send unit list we gonna ditch scar entirely

[keen vapor]

Tempering cube has been there for 3 months

[cold steeple]

It’s still at lvl3

Sorry boss

[cold steeple]

Sure give me a minute

[keen vapor]

@cold steeple you haven't dolled your units enough :deadge:

[tropic summit]

the more echo uses this chat the balder he's gonna get

[cold steeple]

I’m not sure who should I doll first actually I only dolled my dps

[fathom rock]

4 at a time

[keen vapor]

I doll everyone in my PVP teams

[cold steeple]

Wow I don’t have that many materials to doll every single of them yet

[fathom rock]

Blanc/sbs/anis/rh/jackal
Noah/biscuit/emilia/rumani/centi
Send team cp before trying

[quick lake]

Blanc's Idom is 10 seconds, you still have half the full burst bar left, 4-5+ more seconds

[fathom rock]

Now I'm worried jackal link might die from sg

[tropic summit]

there's another for the god scarlet team:

[fathom rock]

How to counter 2rl emilia icbm

[quick lake]

I just SR15 my scarlet

[fathom rock]

Without rossana

[cold steeple]

T2 is gg

[tropic summit]

give me the nikke in that team

[keen vapor]

I don't go for 15

[swift mango]

T1: win

T2: mirror? Idk. Defending on CS.

T3: I would bet on losing. But maybe you could win.

[fathom rock]

Swap centi for jackal and replace jackal spot with cindy on T1, resend cp

[keen vapor]

It's so over :deadge: invest your units

[keen vapor]

Now team 1 is brick

[tropic summit]

🤔

[cold steeple]

T2 still cooked

[fathom rock]

It still bursts faster, Cindy p5 can solo tank sg and if blanc sbs die rh can still solo b3

[keen vapor]

Invest

[cold steeple]

Guess I’ll stay on Diamond 4 first until I reach 401

[swift mango]

Swap Emilia and SBS maybe.

Equip Vigor on Red Hood. Put Emilia p1.

Quantum lv7 on Rumani and Centi.

[fathom rock]

Who is the least invested unit in t2

[cold steeple]

I’m trying my best to invest them

[cold steeple]

Noah 93232 cp

[fathom rock]

I see

[swift mango]

Do you SBS have higher CP than Emilia? swap them first and check CP.

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock #pvp-arena message because i might've a video of this matchup somewhere 🤨

[fathom rock]

Gimme some time trying to cook for this gentleman

[cold steeple]

T1: 626883 - 563798
T2: 613973 - 555325

After swapping

[swift mango]

No longer deficit there

[cold steeple]

Aight will try for it

Eyyyyy straight win let’s gooo

[swift mango]

Move Rumani to p2 to swap with Biscuit if you want

[cold steeple]

Thanks guys I’m back to diamond 3

[fathom rock]

Rumani/anis/rh/laplace+/cindy
Blanc/sbs/centi/biscuit/jackal
Resend cp

[fathom rock]

I'm late
Congrats

[cold steeple]

Thanks for ur effort still

Should I doll the units according to the pvp tier list?

Cuz some are niche units and some are only used in specific scenarios

[fathom rock]

Doll the tanking units first as they need it more to survive (scarlet/jackal/noah/noise/blanc)

There are more than those but you should have those atleast sr5

[cold steeple]

All right, gonna start with Noah noise jackal first

Thank you

[quick lake]

Can Noah even survive with SR15 doll if opponent invested

[swift mango]

P1 without protection is pray to SG, Laplace+ and xMaiden.

Unless you have Rapunzel to revive

[cold steeple]

Ngl I’ve been lacking a lot of materials for upgrading my gears

[fathom rock]

Sg?????

I thought sg targets p5

[swift mango]

SG will attack you P1 defense team

Their SG will attack you P5 attack team

[quick lake]

All this P1 squish

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit team was blanc/emilia/rh/centi/jackal

[fathom rock]

When they attack me their sg hit my p1?

[swift mango]

Yeah. I was thinking it weird when I use my SG to attack but Merry confirmed it.

[fathom rock]

This game sometimes

[covert lintel]

is there a chance for me if cp diff like this?

[keen vapor]

I can't see your CP for reference

But no

[covert lintel]

my cp is below

[keen vapor]

that's not precise enough, why hide it

Anyways, still no

Those teams are solid

[covert lintel]

u mean the char?
it's the same as guide so it doesn't matter

[keen vapor]

Your CP team matters

I don't have a reference

So I have to guess that "no"

[covert lintel]

isn't this.cp team?

[keen vapor]

Ah, there

The crop on preview does hide it and when I open I only looked at cores

My bad

[keen vapor]

Maybe if you reach next milestone for CP increase (this is where knowing your synchro level gets helpful) seriously why hide

[kindred tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1312830506404151378/6699EFFE8916DD787DE0C3F0C34A2288.gif

[keen vapor]

You actually don't enter in deficit against that first team btw

So you can 2 RL Noah it

So, this adds more chances for the next milestone

[covert lintel]

wait, still in other game match

[keen vapor]

-# Waits

[covert lintel]

so can only win the first team?

[cedar orbit]

team 3 looks doable

[keen vapor]

If you Noah it at 2 RL, yes

Unless invested Rosanna can get 1 RL @rich quail

[covert lintel]

i used that team yesterday and all lost

[cedar orbit]

I mean, not with the garbo team you used

they can't get through tank+Biscuit

if you run P1 Centi, P3 Red Hood, P4 Biscuit and the rest so you can charge fast enough, I think you just win

[keen vapor]

Btw, people use Mast as sacc for Rosanna

She has useful skill for sacc

[wicked horizon]

Any point in sitting in D1/2 instead of D3?

[keen vapor]

If you can hold there, no

[wicked horizon]

"there" = D3?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[wicked horizon]

On a separate topic, do you think Rookie Arena people look more at CP than team comp?
Like, if I had a higher CP team that was actually not as good, would that be better to deter people from attacking me?

[quick lake]

Rookie kinda obsolete nowadays. You just hit someone u can easily win and get the arena currency

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, I guess.

But I mean, people tryhard on co-op raid, and that's probably even more useless.

It's just for fun.

[covert lintel]

which team to fight?

which char for p2 and p5?

[cedar orbit]

I assume you are hitting team 1 with the sac team

you can hit team 2 with Noah, Naga, Red Hood, Biscuit, Emilia

[covert lintel]

can't, yesterday using sac lost
even it's linked, scar died miserably

[cedar orbit]

idk why did I write team 2

I meant team 3

[keen vapor]

Resurrect not good

[covert lintel]

so we fight rh burst with rh burst?

[cedar orbit]

they have no real aoe into invincible tank

[covert lintel]

iirc rh when rh burst 2 she taunt enemies and can get heal by dmging

[cedar orbit]

she doesn't use b2

[covert lintel]

i mean the opponent

the team will burst noise, rh, rh

[cedar orbit]

Red Hood using B2 is a massive skill issue

[keen vapor]

That's bad for him... Ideally

[cedar orbit]

she also can't lifesteal from invincible tank

[covert lintel]

like this?

[cedar orbit]

with the sac team, do you lose by killing Scarlet, then dying to Emilia?

or Scarlet burst is just not fast enough?

[covert lintel]

idk, i used quick battle yesterday

[keen vapor]

Stop quick battling

[graceful grotto]

rule no.1: never quick battle unless it’s a repeat battle that u know u already won

[cedar orbit]

tbh, I would rather hit team 2 than team 1

[keen vapor]

[graceful grotto]

same lol

[cedar orbit]

Scarlet, Blanc, Red Hood, Fill, Jackal

[graceful grotto]

i normally avoid scar blanc

[cedar orbit]

then use another dps into team 3 and get a B1 into P5

[keen vapor]

I normally avoid Blanc

[quick lake]

T2 Can try running Blanc SAnis Biscuit for SAnis Indom

[graceful grotto]

blanc is annoying lol

[keen vapor]

I normally avoid

[cedar orbit]

we can't run Biscuit into both teams

[covert lintel]

so using sac team to try wipe sanis?

[quick lake]

T3 Biscuited Noah isnt very reliable against buggy RH

[cedar orbit]

I think Noah S.Anis team is just better than Blanc S.Anis

[quick lake]

T1: 2-2.5RL Noah counter
T2: Blanc SAnis Biscuit 3RL
T3: I dont even think double-buff scarlet can kill

[cedar orbit]

he will be CP diffed on T2

[quick lake]

Doesnt matter tbh. Blanc invuln by Biscuit

Opponent's Moran there is useless as well

[covert lintel]

T2 300k diff with rapun
will it be ok?

[quick lake]

Should be okay.. i think

Only worry is SAnis cannot kill everyone before indom end

[wanton island]

can someone recommend me a rookie arena team?

[quick lake]

(or SAnis dies due to opponents RL splash )

[quick lake]

No jackal?

[wanton island]

sorry. she is in my wishlist

[quick lake]

That's alot of units synced

[quick lake]

no worries

[cedar orbit]

no Biscuit, bricked

[wanton island]

so i need a biscuit and jackal?

[quick lake]

Noise Rapun Centi Scarlet xMaiden

[covert lintel]

anyway let's try @cedar orbit 's suggestion first today

[bleak shale]

getting biscuit jackal is quite important to pvp

[wanton island]

and noah?

[quick lake]

First team will be wiped

[cedar orbit]

I wanna cook a team for team 2 instead of 1, I don't waanna hit 1

[bleak shale]

biscuit jackal is probably more core than noah, but noah is very good

biscuit jackal prevents your p1 from dying before you burst

noah is amazing gen + team wipe counter