pvp-arena

[grizzled bone]

if i only used your displayed units

[eternal finch]

DEF on SP is being broken more often this past days, any new recommendations please?

[tacit stratus]

Got the W ty

[valid fern]

is it safe to assume more charge speed = faster burst generation for snipers/rockets in arena?

[grizzled bone]

edit your message with your current teams as well

[grizzled bone]

yes

snipers have poor burst gen though

your burst gen is going to come from rl and sg

[valid fern]

interesting. I always thought snipers were in the middle-ish for burst gen

[grizzled bone]

for context

[glacial palm]

Alright chat, cook me 3 def teams

i just manage to mess with potentially 4 whales and at least 1 of them is going to be mad

[valid fern]

is there a larger version of that available?

I replaced Alice with SAnis here and cooked. chefs kiss

[livid marsh]

Can someone tell me how to counter this team?

[livid marsh]

I have most of the nikke

[valid fern]

seems they have faster burst generation and more invuln than you do.

[covert lintel]

yes, her burst is greater than scarlet and her s1 is literally lower version of sanis's s2

[grizzled bone]

check the pins for the burst calculators

[grizzled bone]

hmm interesting whats your investment in mpriv like?

[vapid lake]

don't have enough gear fodder to OL all my pvp units
saving for 2 weeks only got me 5 pieces

[grizzled bone]

can try emi nuke

[grizzled bone]

prioritise your OL differently starting with helmet and gloves first to stretch out your economy

[grizzled bone]

is your ros invested?

your roster is pve right?

[glacial palm]

all of them are UR/SR ready, most of the meta ones at least

moran still in the works

[grizzled bone]

what are your current teams?

[glacial palm]

sorry for the delay, cooking for ppl over in #team-building

[covert lintel]

full invest like scarlet

[grizzled bone]

10/10/10?

[covert lintel]

yes

[grizzled bone]

no wonder. Most impressive

[covert lintel]

still can't get 2 more crit rate tho

[grizzled bone]

@glacial palm is your Rosanna at least 4/7/7 ?

[glacial palm]

not enough books, just finished Leona for SR prep

[grizzled bone]

i figured but just checking

[grizzled bone]

Scarlet-SBS-Noir-XAnne-Jackal
Ein-Blanc-Emi-Rh-Centi
Noah-Rapu-SAnis-Biscuit-Noise

[glacial palm]

sbs gen is decent?

[grizzled bone]

her burst gen pattern is weird but that team should be 3RL or 3.5

you could also change positioning around noise if you want

[glacial palm]

alright looks good

ty

[grizzled bone]

pleasure

i tried aiming for 3RL on your teams. The original pepper team was too slow

[glacial palm]

messing with other whales not gonna end well

[grizzled bone]

that is unfortunate my friend

oh you're same bracket as Syn

[glacial palm]

oh you JB?

[grizzled bone]

almost, im in the alliance. I went to the more casual union cuz im casual

[glacial palm]

oh u are origin or tozei

[grizzled bone]

yess

[glacial palm]

im ex-JB, still good friends with the alliance

[grizzled bone]

alliance doesnt know i cook for pvp lol

ahh nice nice

[strange quail]

Hello, I want to try again. Can somebody help me ? Thank you

[grizzled bone]

any changes in roster? Emi investment?

[strange quail]

no changes in roster. Emi is heavily invested

[grizzled bone]

skills?

[strange quail]

4 7 7

I tried to set up the emi nuke earlier but the shotgun keep messing Blanc buff for her

[grizzled bone]

what sg?

[strange quail]

their Sanis

[grizzled bone]

SAnis killed Blanc early?

[strange quail]

No, it is SAnis attacking the last nikke, therefore the buff go to her instead of Emi

But I cant put Emi to last place because I need RH to buff her too

[grizzled bone]

hmm

try
Blanc-Emi-RH-Noir-Centi
Moran-Scarlet/SBS-BSoda-Biscuit-Jackal
Skip

calculate deficit before attacking

[strange quail]

25% deficit for 2nd team 😦

[grizzled bone]

CP for T2?

[grizzled bone]

I think you lack the investment/levels to win then. Their T1 and T2 are slow at 4RL, that's why I made teams for those two, and you dont really have any counters against both their Scarlet units

[strange quail]

apparently this team of mine can beat his T2, can you cook something that can beat one more team with remaining roster ?

and this team is very close to winning too (sometimes win sometimes lose)

[grizzled bone]

this wins because of scarlet-jack. Defending SGs target P5 not sure if Blanc is necessary here

[strange quail]

Ah I did managed to win

2 yellow cube into 3rd team did the trick

[grizzled bone]

nice

[strange quail]

Idk how my Razpunzel survived the slash there, maybe when Scar crit = I lose. If not then I win

[glad meteor]

Yep, I had a comp like that

[grizzled bone]

got lucky there

[umbral crown]

Oh, nice will keep that in mind

Once i get X.Anne will try to replicate that team

[grizzled bone]

another year of waiting

[rich quail]

waiting

malding

growing older

[umbral crown]

Just few months

[grizzled bone]

no fair you edited

[paper cloud]

@peak lagoon watch me drop to d1 from c1 on day 1

[spare marlin]

thanks for the help

[peak lagoon]

i woke up this morning in d2

[spice thunder]

can i get some help creating my 3 teams for pvp

[peak lagoon]

alice came in clutch right there

[mighty haven]

Comfy 8th

[formal cradle]

should i replace liter, tia, laplace, or noir with viper?

[umbral crown]

Viper is Clip SG like noir but will depend if your viper has more cp

[ruby iris]

Thx , this was my previous defense setup (I didn't have a good alice yet), will the new alice team perform well (like should I use it as second main)?

[ruby iris]

@grizzled bone Should I take someone out to increase the burst gen in this team? I tried it in battle and I couldn't reach half burst bar maybe I'm messing up something

[rich quail]

None of those characters have any significant burst gen to help you in pvp.

Caishen listed a chart with units that can help with burst gen here

#pvp-arena message

[ruby iris]

Alright thx

[rich quail]

The top 6 are the major burst gen units

[ruby iris]

Maybe replacing Noir with Centi wouldn't be a bad idea

It def won't be enough, but we're getting closer

[rich quail]

The rest are there, but basically if you want to have a solid chance to get to full burst, you want at least 1-2 of the top 6 in your team

Be careful about Anis. Although she has a lot of burst gen, she is SR and lower in cp than the others.

You will have to compensate by OLing her gear (at least OL+0) and get lines from the gear to build more cp.

Don’t put Anis with Blanc
Chances are Anis will steal indom when Blanc bursts

[ruby iris]

Oh I see thx for the advice

[rich quail]

Those are the basics

Don’t kill me because I am not an expert

have fun

[stone iris]

Zixk retired?

I appreciate all the cooks you gave me

[bleak shale]

ngl the only reason i pvp is to make people spend money

[thorn pagoda]

some people have way too much disposable income, so it doesn't matter to them

[bleak shale]

it doesnt matter to me either i just time my hits which one is convenient for me anyways

[thorn pagoda]

i'm a plumber, so it's not too bad but i'm not exactly rich either lol

[bleak shale]

except i dont spend

[summer copper]

so you jump on turtles and rescue princesses?

[thorn pagoda]

that would be a much better alternative

[wind kelp]

When you're talking crap sbout someone, make sure they're not in the room.

[thorn pagoda]

i know you are, which is why i did it >:)

the block button can only take you so far

also, it's just a game
you should relax

[pastel narwhal]

[thorn pagoda]

the new pfp is nice 🔥

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

be the reason they whale

[worldly osprey]

can someone help me build 3 team def pvp. i can build more nikke if need. tysm

[wind kelp]

Oh no, dropped to 9 on ladder, how will i ever survive 😅 Typical ladder, i called him out in private because he was so much into "spending money is stupid", yet this week suddenly powerlevels go boop.

[thorn pagoda]

dolls
skills
and the simulation room overclock lol

the #1 whale is almost 10 levels above me and i can still beat him. i just can't hold 1st place

[umbral crown]

[thorn pagoda]

in total, i've probably spent about £150 on core dust and that only equates to about 12 levels or less lmao

and in pvp, levels aren't as important

£150 (including the monthly gems and 30 day upgrade supply)

[glad meteor]

If you have correct overloads, 40 level diff and opp is cooked

[thorn pagoda]

pretty much. i managed to overload 2 sets of armour on each nikke in my pvp formation
half of them have 4 sets of overload gear and SR dolls

my redhood

[glad meteor]

Yh, Most whales don’t care about pvp, so they don’t overload pvp units. Making it easier to beat them

[wind kelp]

Again, this isn't about spending money, or gear, or what have you. This is about this dude being so gungho about "sending cash is stupid", until they dropped 2 levels 😄

[umbral crown]

now give it to me

[thorn pagoda]

most of my core dust comes from the 30 day supply

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[thorn pagoda]

i've been nice ever since we met, but today he's so triggered

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

[wind kelp]

And FYI nothing happened, no anger, no hissyfit over a 2 rank drop. Just learned that a friendly person is a fake. Block and move on.

[thorn pagoda]

i'm convinced this is a mental breakdown

due to dropping a few ranks

[ruby iris]

Chill out everyone

[copper creek]

did any of this ever need to become public ?

[wind kelp]

Nope.

[thorn pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

he blocked me lol

[ruby iris]

It's pvp in a gacha game, not a nobel prize

[thorn pagoda]

i was going to remove the chatlog in 30 minutes anyway

[thorn pagoda]

exactly lol

[ruby iris]

Then move on, you can do better than this

[thorn pagoda]

you should see my dms. he's so triggered

[ruby iris]

No need to get mad at each other for this stuff tho

[copper creek]

ya but it was in ur dms
none of this ever had to leave a private space

the intent is not to take sides

[thorn pagoda]

i agree. at least he unblocked me

[copper creek]

im just saying that this channel has enjoyed very little mod oversight

can u guys just keep it that way while we have something good

and not give mods a reason to change that

[thorn pagoda]

i can't go deleting all my replies now since it would look weird, but i was planning to remove the chatlogs

[worthy knoll]

More like, why did you feel the need to share it here?

[thorn pagoda]

because he would see it and he blocked me

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

Smh

[thorn pagoda]

now just like every internet trend, this entire discussion will get burried & forgotten within 12 hours

it's all good

[wind kelp]

Bold to assume this has worth more than 5 minute memory :p

[umbral crown]

[quartz blaze]

someone cook me pvp tema, thx

[full citrus]

hi chyatt sorry if im back but i just got scarlet and jackal and FULLY MAXXED out sanis so i was thinking i shud change my arena teams, both rookie and sp and need some help!

[wind kelp]

Funnily enough, it was all over a misunderstanding anyway. Thought Hunty boy there had backstabbed me, when it was someone else.My bad!

[glad meteor]

[valid epoch]

Need team for PvP sp im beginner is first time make sp

[prime mango]

This guy with god team always seems to be bursting quicker than all the other people with the exact same team. My Emilia team can burst just in time except for against this guy. Any ideas why and how I can get my burst faster?

[wind kelp]

And btw due apologies to the channel as well for the "drama" they were subjected to. Bad morning + getting booped = grr. All now!

[thorn pagoda]

^^^

i don't spend gems on my chinese whale friend anymore

[sly terrace]

better defense teams i can make out of my roster? or just stick with these

[valid epoch]

Can you help me with team for PvP sp pless

[chrome dust]

what is anis skill prio?

[grizzled bone]

i edited my defense suggestion for better burst gen and removed naga. Naga was originally used for the CP but forgot she has bad burst gen. I do not recommend using defense teams for attacking

Alice is a single target burst DPS, she could perform well but can be countered with the right team. I included her because she's your strongest attacker

[grizzled bone]

OG Anis 4/4/4

[grizzled bone]

you have a lack of units focus on two strong teams and then the third will be leftovers
like
Noise-Noah-Priv-Liter-Maiden
Scarlet-Blanc-Rapu-Anis-Noir

[grizzled bone]

Scarlet-Blanc-Lap+-RH-Jackal
Noah-SAnis-Biscuit-Rapu-Anis
Noise-Alice-Drake-Noir-Centi

[grizzled bone]

your units are kind of everywhere. Focus on 2 strong teams and 1 leftover team
Noah-Sanis-Biscuit-Liter-BSoda
Blanc-DKW-RH-Lap+-Centi

[ruby iris]

Yeah that team did pretty well against another player, thanks

[hidden hearth]

need 3 teams for SP arena, both attack and defense

[paper cloud]

@peak lagoon I gotchu 🤝

[storm quail]

My arena rival start to copy my defense team now lol

[humble ridge]

I just got jackal but im not too familiar with pvp. could someone recommend me 3 teams for sp arena please?

[frozen mist]

Jackal has been obtained ;...; Finally

[fallen lion]

Hello! I’m new to Nikke - just joined a month ago and I’m not sure how to build/change my PVP team😭🥲 This person will lower overall power keeps beating me lol🥹 Any tips??

Here are the character options😭😭 any tips/advice are appreciated 🙏

[unreal latch]

@umbral crown i amback 🤓 😳

[umbral crown]

You trust your RH enough to live till burst ?

Noir has ele advantage over RH

[unreal latch]

maybe

[vapid barn]

Advice against this team? Pls
Rookie arena

[umbral crown]

I do not have calculator in hand but give me some time to check

[sinful berry]

I will enjoy my Diamond 10 ranking for the approximately 30 seconds it'll take for someone to send me back down to like Silver 3

[thorn pagoda]

you won't maintain your rank if you don't max out all 3 formations

works fine against players who don't spend gems but whales who waste gems on pvp won't be affected

[umbral crown]

Time flied snd my class started , later will give you some suggestions

[loud sonnet]

Someone attk me while sleeping

[grizzled bone]

focus on 2 strong teams. Your units are kinda everywhere
Blanc-CEnti-RH-Liter-Noir
Noah-SAnis-Rapunzel-Biscuit-Viper
leftover team

[grizzled bone]

Scarlet-Blanc-RH-Centi-Jackal
Noise-Noah-SAnis-Biscuit-BSoda
Crown-Emi-Liter-Noir-Marciana

[grizzled bone]

Your roster and investment is lacking a little, focus on make 2 strong teams that can burst chain and then have a left overs 3rd team. Consider putting more units into your synchro like Jackal and Centi for burst gen, Noah for defense, etc.

[grizzled bone]

he's bursting faster or Emi is nuking slightly slower because of her charge time for B3?

[visual willow]

what would be a good sp attack team for this defense? currently using Jackal/Scarlet/Centi/Anne/Anis for another attack team already

[grizzled bone]

i would consider putting SAnis and Anis in your synchro. Your teams aren't bad they have decent speed but they could be tweaked a little for units burst skills.
E.g.
Noir is more used for buffing, team load, and burst gen than her B3.

[prime mango]

Not sure. I’m able to beat all other god comps and emi bursts JUST in time. But I’m too slow to burst for that persons team.

Is there ways to make the burst quicker with the current team?

[grizzled bone]

Quantum cube?

[prime mango]

On everyone?

[grizzled bone]

Emi and Jackal for sure, maybe Biscuit. Blanc maybe Vigor cuz she's tanking with Biscuit. RH will have poor burst gen anyway cuz sniper

[prime mango]

Kk. I try out that

Thanks bruddah

[grizzled bone]

Scarlet-Jackal link is common to see. Get Jackal to 4/4/4 skills
e.g. Scarlet-Blanc-Liter-Biscuit-Jackal
At your progress focus on 2 strong teams and a leftovers for 3rd team

[grizzled bone]

they have better burst generation and synergy than your team. Consider reading the pins for resources on how pvp works.
you could try a noah-biscuit/blanc-biscuit team

[grizzled bone]

if your Rosanna is invested (minimum reco 4/7/7/ skills) you could use her to break the Scarlet-Jackal link

[grizzled bone]

Your team lost?

Counters to SBS are OG Sakura (reduces wind enemy attack dmg) or Defender + Biscuit.
Invested Rosanna could break Jackal link.
Scarlet-Jackal could be fed from Emma mg
Blanc-SAnis could hit multiple targets

[visual willow]

I was using Blanc/emma/redhood/sbs/naga

[grizzled bone]

that team will have poor burst gen and opp team is 3RL speed

[visual willow]

should i replace naga for biscuit (quantum)?

[grizzled bone]

you would still have a burst problem

[visual willow]

this is the team i send the jackal/scarlet comp into

but i may be able to swap some units around so i can consistently beat both teams

[hidden hearth]

any help pls 🙏🏼

[sly terrace]

I just follow suggestions honestly. I guess I'll just stay the same?

Anis and Sanis I've tried and they lost me more rounds, Sanis cus low investment

[fallen lion]

Thank u 👍

[worldly osprey]

Sr but can u help me other team without kilo. Kilo hard to nuke so i reset her skill and dont use her anymore

[oblique magnet]

just got jackal today and noticed that a few others also got jackal today ~ it's jackal day woooo

[grizzled bone]

Blanc-SAnis-Biscuit-Liter-Centi
Noah-Emma-Alice-Rapu-BSoda
T3 leftovers

[quartz prawn]

any team recs to beat the above team? My last unit is Emma and just pulled Drake

[grizzled bone]

edited

[crystal flicker]

Tia Blanc RedHood Anis Noir
Jackal Sanis Bay Rapu Mpriv
Noise Alice ScarletBS Mari BSoda
Don't attack, check your cp

[copper creek]

lol

[quartz prawn]

only team 2 has a cp penalty and by a lot.

[crystal flicker]

What about the T1 and their T2?

[crystal flicker]

and team 2 vs their T3

[quartz prawn]

t1 is like 10% diff to my advantage. if i do t2 vs their t3, its a 17% cp diff to their advantage

[crystal flicker]

What if you're replace Bay at T2 with Naga

[quartz prawn]

then my t2 vs their t3 no penalty. but still cp penalty if t2 vs their t2

[lethal forge]

Help team for pvp pls

[livid marsh]

This team good?

[crystal flicker]

You only need 2/3 right? If so T1 vs T2, T2 vs T3, T3 vs T1 (skip)

[brave spoke]

Can i get some special area help, i got some more characters

[grizzled bone]

... Scarlet-SBS-XAnne-Ros-Jackal

[quartz prawn]

yup wiil try. thank you for taking the time to help 🙏

[crystal flicker]

Should be OK if there's no penalty

[quartz prawn]

also this is just out of curiosity. the previous t1 vs their t1 team, i used this calc and showed they have an estimated 3.5 RL vs my 3 RL. Do u think this diff is enough for them to just burst through tia and blanc before they could even burst? I'm not sure how big a diff RL is.

[crystal flicker]

Yes I think, 1RL is like 2.5 sec

[quartz prawn]

omg thats huge. and your team rec won the fight ❤️ THANK YOU! this guy was recking me in rookie and sp

[visual willow]

yeah it's the fastest burst comps for scarlet

[livid marsh]

How about for scarlet sbs?

[thorn pagoda]

he's in this server >:)

[visual willow]

sbs has weird burst meter gen, i think some people use her in a blanc comp

[keen vapor]

[crystal flicker]

Centi Blanc Alice Neon Noir
Noah Sanis Rapunzel Biscuit Anis
Noise Moran Ein Yuni Drake

[thorn pagoda]

he's not online. he set up a macro on his pc so it shows him online all the time, trying to throw me off so i don't fight him

[keen vapor]

[thorn pagoda]

a whale to me is someone who buys every single costume, every single step up package and all the daily/weekly core dust packs

for context, everybody below me is about level 245 on average and he's 281

i'm 276 now but i'm sure he has core dust saved up he hasn't used

last month he was over 10 levels lol

[crystal flicker]

Blanc Scarlet Neon Biscuit Anis
Moran Rapi Mica Product23 Leona
Auto

[thorn pagoda]

genshin moment

what level are you in your bracket?

old players have more potential to whale than newer ones, i think personally. it spreads out over time and becomes more apparent later on

i'm not sure if it's to do with when you signed up, but older players seem to have a higher difference in whaling than newer ones

someone who buys core dust and other beneficial upgrades from the store will accumulate in that power difference over time compared to a newer bracket that all started out recently

someone who buys every step up package when it's available, that's a whale. that's over $100 each event

every costume from the gacha spin
every weekly/monthly core dust package

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-never-fight-again-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-cell-saga-gif-27358113

[thorn pagoda]

35 levels. you could probably still win with OL gear. #2 is probably buying the 30 day supply (10 core dust packs a day). what level is #1

[loud sonnet]

That rank 2 was in the same lvl as the rank 1 in my bracket

[stone iris]

Try fighting core+7 PILGRIMS

[wild patio]

[thorn pagoda]

shift up know what they're doing. pvp makes you want to spend more $, at least in my case. it's a predatory tactic but it works

you'd need to do the fusion dance with goku to beat that whale

i know it's just a game, but pvp really makes you want to win. especially against the whales. i always get carried away.....it's just a game
it's no big deal if the whale beats you, but yeah lol

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/pica-pica-funny-cute-pokemon-pikachu-gif-15006966

[thorn pagoda]

excuse my autistic rambling. i get carried away sometimes

yeah, i'm third too. you still get 3000 gems so it's not a big deal

that's only if you can keep third

[wild patio]

[lunar dirge]

rookie numbers lmao

1,2m at 370 synchro smells like skill issue

now it makes sense

I'm exactly 1,05m at 300 synchro, and I'm up against these guys

[wild patio]

hoo lee fak

my condolences

[vapid lake]

man took his child's college tuition fee and threw it all at waifus instead

[crystal flicker]

They're sending messages

[lunar dirge]

9,5 old account btw

[lunar dirge]

I'm c4 there

[crystal flicker]

That's why the message is "GO WHALE AND BEAT US"

[lunar dirge]

I forced c2 to whale cuz he didn't want my smoke while already being 60 levels higher

Should be

[vapid lake]

he claimed the seas

[grizzled bone]

it's designed to incentivize whaling

[grizzled bone]

if someone is spending consistently, even lighty, the difference in power is more pronounced with time for sure

[thorn pagoda]

yeah, that's what i thought

over time it adds up
especially in older servers with players above lv 300

[grizzled bone]

earlier adopters that dont take time off have huge advantage over newer player base

they do try to group people with similar sign up dates, you just cant take time off from daily's

you take a month off you're behind and have to spend money to catch up or hope they also take a break

[thorn pagoda]

which they won't >:)

unless they get banned

[grizzled bone]

well if they have more money than sense... who knows

[thorn pagoda]

it's not just nikke either. every gacha game has a competitive pvp element

and all the whales are doing this
need to resist the urge to waste $ just for pvp

[thorn pagoda]

$1000 for therapy or spend it on nikke
we know what he chose

the nice thing about nikke pvp is that it's brought all of us together in this little community where we talk about stuff and obsess over it, which is great. that's one of the positive aspects

[sacred sigil]

winnable

[grizzled bone]

ez win
wait
within margins. 13% deficit.

[sacred sigil]

[grizzled bone]

that's also true. Taking time off during the major events (anni, summer, winter) hurts more compared to other timess of the year

get a friend to do your daily's lol

[sacred sigil]

I wish I have a friend

[thorn pagoda]

ask someone you trust in this discord maybe

damn

[sacred sigil]

[grizzled bone]

If you link your account to your email, you can do a code sign in

they've tried incentivizing making an infinite account. There's a point system that you can use to redeem resources

haven't looked into if you can sign into the game from just that however

[worthy knoll]

At least 320 gems per month

[grizzled bone]

if you remember to redeem

[lean sail]

Jealous… I use Facebook btw.

[mighty haven]

160 wall be fun times

[misty drum]

guess im safe for another season

[pastel narwhal]

besides gems, i just grab the books

[grizzled bone]

Also useful!

[paper cloud]

Maxing 1 unit took like 1 month anyway why bother. And I can still win against the whale in my bracket that's ~20 levels more

[thorn pagoda]

and then he beats you in 2 hours and takes his spot back lol

[paper cloud]

I don't see multiple attacks before from 1 single player

It's mostly people ganging up on me

[thorn pagoda]

i wonder why......

[paper cloud]

My def teams are so bad. No scarlet, jackal, Moran, Rosanna

[thorn pagoda]

mine are too, tbh
that's why i maxed out all 3 formations

whatever works for you though

i only get targeted by one guy in special arena since he's my nemesis

[paper cloud]

Still long way to max out all 3 formation

[thorn pagoda]

worth it though

i went from being targeted by 4 users to just one, and that's only if i manage to beat him. now i can maintain 3rd place

[grizzled bone]

Don't brick your pve units

[molten lodge]

A team? in Rookie Arena

[crystal flicker]

Slower Nuke should work

If you can survive their burst

[molten lodge]

nope, S.Anis ends up defeating me

[crystal flicker]

Welp

I use the exact same comp, and the only that almost defeat me is slow Nuke lmao

[copper creek]

define "slower nuke"

[crystal flicker]

Rei A

Nuke after Noah's immune gone

[molten lodge]

Rei I don't have it with high level

[thorn crest]

Hersche so whale

[mighty haven]

all quiet on the Eastern front

[wild patio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeOutpost/comments/1fqixjb/its_not_about_the_gems/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://tenor.com/view/fighterz-dragon-ball-clash-gif-18586098

[mighty haven]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

@umbral crown would be proud

[paper cloud]

@peak lagoon bruh help

[sacred sigil]

No

[paper cloud]

[umbral crown]

Si

[pastel narwhal]

[rich quail]

[graceful grotto]

just got pepper and biscuit, any recommendations on SP Arena team?

[spare arch]

Hi there, could someone help me with teams for the arena?

I think all my teams are very flawed, that includes the attack and defense teams

I-Is anyone there?

[crystal flicker]

No

[coarse lake]

https://tenor.com/view/tumbleweed-silence-gif-19279803

[crystal flicker]

This Channel never have enough chef

[spare arch]

You showed yourself, Sir Hoshiyomi!

And Sir Eon!

Then would you help me if it’s not too much trouble?

Please?

[crystal flicker]

I can't cook pvp sadly

[spare arch]

Oh, I see, sorry for wasting your time

[mighty haven]

All the Cooks are asleep

[spare arch]

That’s unlucky

[mighty haven]

Though best to check pins, and post your Nikkes in a wide screen capture here

[spare arch]

Like this:

[crystal flicker]

Indeed

[spare arch]

I forgot the photos

Like this:

[mighty haven]

....oh close to my sync, started 2 or so months ago?

[crystal flicker]

Why your Sanis isn't built tho

[spare arch]

Because I was building Red Hood

[mighty haven]

Prio given on campaign units

[spare arch]

Yes, campaign units, I wanna see what happens with Dorothy now that she got shot

[crystal flicker]

2 Nuke team with Rei and Scarlet + 1 RH/Alice team probably works

[spare arch]

Can you dumb it down a bit, please?

[mighty haven]

Is your Laplus fully treasured?

[spare arch]

Yes, all that she’s lacking is a Missilis torso piece

[worthy knoll]

[mighty haven]

Noh don't sleep @worthy knoll cook

[spare arch]

Please Sir Merry, I need help!

[mighty haven]

At the very least, put Centi and Anis into sync device first, you can take out Admi and Epinel

[spare arch]

Regular Anis?

[mighty haven]

Yup, her burst gen very important in PvP

[worthy knoll]

Sorry too tired today, all I can say is read the Resource link pins, just the pvp mechanics (from Modernia) section is fine to get the basics

[mighty haven]

No worries, we try our best while you sleep

[pastel narwhal]

chefs are cooking here

[spare arch]

Sorry, the game crashed and I was opening it again

I didn’t have to remove anyone from the device, I had the last two slots open

[mighty haven]

Cool, have you got Quantum Cube available?

[spare arch]

Quantum is… orange?

[mighty haven]

Yup

[spare arch]

I have, I have up to the full green one

Sorry for taking so long, the game crashed again

[crystal flicker]

Try lower your setting

[spare arch]

It’s minimum already

[crystal flicker]

Open your task manager

when the game running

[spare arch]

I’m on mobile

[crystal flicker]

oh

[spare arch]

Then, now that Anis is in the device she should be helpful in the arena?

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Blanc Centi Anis Jackal
Noah ReiAyanami La+ Rapunzel Drake
Noise Naga RedHood BSoda Noir

[crystal flicker]

Yes.

[grizzled bone]

[pastel narwhal]

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

[bright mantle]

is this winnable?

[spare arch]

I don’t think so

The difference in power is too much, you’ll be affected by the handicap

[bright mantle]

what handicap? cp deficit?

the burger 😭

[bright mantle]

but it only starts at 15.41% right?

u sure?

but other people say its 15.41%

even the pinned message says its 15.41%

did they update the number or something

[crystal flicker]

Oh yes, 15.4

mb

[grizzled bone]

winnable

[rotund spindle]

is this a safe space to hate on emma users

[grizzled bone]

in a pvp-sense? sure?

there are better b1 options than emma tho

[rotund spindle]

its just such a corny loser strategy

she's the worst part about being minimum 200k under everyone else

like yeah I get it bro it's literally impossible to damage this team, get a job

[vapid lake]

i got sniped at xx:58 before reset

i'm in a bracket with rats

[pastel narwhal]

[vapid lake]

not once but TWICE

felt coordinated

[grizzled bone]

i have a sniper in rookie. He saves 1 free before reset and tries to hit me even if im not in 1st

but he loses so he puts me in 1st

[rotund spindle]

lol

[sturdy fox]

How is this scarlet doing so much dmg?
Enemy team is lower lvl and cp than mine

[coarse lake]

every instance of dmg your units deal to scarlet (or any jackal linked units when scarlet is linked) has a chance to result in a counter. All of your units (except jackal) do a lot of hit instances, so they just kill themselves

[sturdy fox]

Whats hits instances?
Is that like aoe dmg?

[winged snow]

any kind of attack

[sturdy fox]

Then why are my units doing the same thing
I got Jackal aswell

[coarse lake]

a rocket launcher does about 1 shot (hit) per second, an smg does a lot of little hits per second, shotguns do 10 hits per half second (per shot)

each hit you do has a 30% chance to counter you

basically you wanna use RLs and SR units when dealing with enemy scarlet if you know you're gonna be hitting a linked unit

[sonic juniper]

Hi, best team to beat this line up?

[glad meteor]

Noah/emi/biscuit/rosanna/jackal

Ros burst needs to be invested to one shot emilia, mainly for rookie since it is costly and this comps lowers the pressure to one shot red hood with rosanna burst.

[keen vapor]

It needs to one shot when she gets unlinked?

[glad meteor]

Yh, ros unlinks jackal between 1-1.5 rl, at 2.5rl or 3rl is safe to one shot

If not one shot, emi will get indom

1rl slower noah can be rng sometmes, red hood+ blanc buffed emi hit’s pretty hard, if investments low, you could lose

[deep phoenix]

how to counter a fast scarlet team? is that pilgrim with bkb required against her?

[rich quail]

bkb?

[deep phoenix]

invulnerable

[rich quail]

I think Biscuit is the one who gives invulnerability, to defenders iirc

[vapid lake]

noah protects ur entire team for 3s

but your team must burst first, in time to block scarlet burst

[rich quail]

Noah’s B2 before Scarlet’s B3

Indom also works from Blanc, if you are in a pinch

That’s even more picky because you have to make sure that the indom goes to the dps you want to finish the other team with, and not have it taken by another team member

Again, like Noah

Blanc’s B2 before Scarlet’s B3

[stone iris]

noise soft counters scarlet and noah hard counters scarlet

[vapid lake]

the rat that sniped me at 3am got knocked all the way down to diamond

[stone iris]

Not sure if my cooks are any good but... im thinking Sakura bloom + blanc, Noah + Summer Anis, Scarlet + mariacle anne

[glacial lion]

sac pos2 work in def team

[raven plover]

bkb

[mild moat]

looking for help with this guy.

[glacial lion]

noahless?

[keen vapor]

NO, NOT AGAIN

[mild moat]

Nah, i have all* the chars. heres my roster. missing chainsaw man event only i think

[stone iris]

are we thinking noah noise biscuit to counter indom scarlet?

[keen vapor]

Cof cof

Excusable Pilgrim

[copper creek]

o

[onyx scaffold]

You already hit him to rank 9.
Diamond 2 can attack rank 9 so it was only one extra hit to him. He still has two attempts. He can target rank 9 and then up to rank 6.

[mighty haven]

fbd, andmore defence

[grizzled bone]

scar-jack t2. SAnis and Moran should feed.
T3 quick burst nuke

[rustic sandal]

• Jackal/Scarlet/SBS/Tia/Naga
• Blanc/RH/Noir/MPriv/Centi
• Noah/Noise/SAnis/Biscuit/Laplace

lets say now i have high CP Ein.. can i replace one of those?
No laplace, because her cp is super high

[umbral crown]

Maiden... blanc/ein/RH/Noir/Centi

[rustic sandal]

Ohhh thanks!
I mean MPriv.. i just edited it

[umbral crown]

[rustic sandal]

So Ein generating good burst right

[umbral crown]

Not really, she is a SR

But her burst does good damage when investes

[stone iris]

Grew some of my units. What teams should I run for SP arena*?

[rustic sandal]

Ohhh i see.. thanks!

[umbral crown]

[stone iris]

Im back to running the classic Noise/Rapunzel/Scarlet/Jackal/Noah in Rookie Arena

[onyx scaffold]

my pvp bracket has 40 sub servers

[grizzled bone]

you checked the entire bracket?

[onyx scaffold]

yeah. i did this like a year ago lol

i check again just now

the shuffle will add top 5 sub servers and remove bottom 5 sub servers I believe

core dust buyer 1
core dust buyer 2
core dust buyer 3
normal 1
hoarder 1
normal 2
slacking 1
normal 3

[grizzled bone]

Interesting data. How did you figure out the player labels and numbers?

Can't make teams now but can give hint
T1 skip
T2 don't feed with mg or sanis/sgs. Emi nuke
T3 blanc sanis
@gaunt sentinel

[onyx scaffold]

Wdym. I only write their sync level out.
Do math and judge based on the level increasing and how many days have passed.
For example, 16 levels and 8 levels. It is definitely a core dust buyers but it seems like he doesn't buy everything in the store. To make sure, u can even check his campaign clear and figure out how many cd/h he earns

The #8 dude is f2p

Sync 42x require 12k cd.
Sync 50x require 14k cd and a lot credits. Possibly the first guy didn't buy credits so he is slow down

[grizzled bone]

Yeah thats exactly what I was asking for. I was wondering what methodology you used. I am impressed with both your effort and motivation.
I'm assuming this is only able to give a general idea since you can't take into account other sources like infinite pass and what they get from events, etc.

[onyx scaffold]

the infinite pass doesn't really give notable rewards and I can bet those whales never check it.

[lunar dirge]

fellow dota brainrot detected🤝

[mighty haven]

I sense...a great disturbance in the Force

[crystal flicker]

That C4 either lazy or skill issue'd

[mighty haven]

This top 6 hasn't really changed, just Joey earlier jumped Kuku and then tried me

[crystal flicker]

yeah pretty chill

[mighty haven]

Chill here, chill C8 on my alt, fighting between D2-D5 on 160 acc

[pastel narwhal]

my bracket suddenly turned eepy

https://tenor.com/view/erase-clean-the-office-gif-21533553

[vapid lake]

must be nice

i want a dead bracket again

shuffle me out

[pastel narwhal]

mine was hyper active the first few days, it should settle down at some point

[mighty haven]

like mine cough

[copper creek]

what is dead bracket

all u have to do is make sure they cant win

[loud sonnet]

Is 16% cs for emi on OL enough?

[junior briar]

can i copy your team?

[junior briar]

more than enough

[loud sonnet]

My s1 is still lvl7

[junior briar]

im still 99% its enough

[lunar dirge]

his bracket is young, so it's a bad idea

[junior briar]

[lunar dirge]

You need 21% total in s1 +cs ol, so yes it is

[lunar dirge]

Once i did really stupid teams, ppl stopped jumping me, and now i get attacked 2 times per fay max(prev was 4-5 times)

[pastel narwhal]

i just re-started raising my pvp teams again, same old teams.

yeah 2x a day is fine, as long as it's not forcing to gem or letting them keep it for a day

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

[mighty haven]

It's pretty iffy though :^

[mild moat]

i ended up feeding r2, but won r1/r3. i don't think i made the best choices for t2 and t3 tho. can't post his teams again because he's not on my list atm xD

[grizzled bone]

[mild solstice]

Hey guys need to upgrade my def teams on SP arena, lobby changed and i'm being cooked I'll leave my actual teams

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/world-series-my-body-is-ready-gif-10084647

[stone iris]

perk performance

[umbral crown]

[rotund spindle]

are naga or tia good for pvp?

[umbral crown]

Not really, they are more pve

[rotund spindle]

good to know, I didn't wanna have to rearrange my entire set of teams again

[umbral crown]

no worries, it just take few minutes to do that

[rotund spindle]

well I don't need to if tia and naga aren't good

[gaunt sentinel]

guys need help for top 3 uploading first before i got demoted to rank 8 again

[eternal finch]

Need to look for new defense options for SP.

Current rotations that no longer work:

DEF 1
Jackal/Scarlet/Drake/Poli/Tia
Blanc/Emilia/Sugar/RH/Pepper
Noah/Rapunzel/S.Anis/Biscuit/Centi

DEF 2
Scarlet/Rapunzel/Jackal/Poli/Sugar
Blanc/Scalter/RH/Centi/Pepper
Noise/Biscuit/S.Anis/Emilia/Anis

[vapid lake]

rats attacking me while im sleeping!! i need to wake up 5 minutes earlier to defend my nonexistent honor

[stone warren]

what the best sp arena def for my nikkes?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

tip of the day: do not sleep

[gaunt sentinel]

need my nikke list?

[umbral crown]

si

[gaunt sentinel]

can you open this link?
#pvp-arena message

i mostly pve and just now trying to focus on pvp so i dont know some of skill lvl req for pvp unit

[umbral crown]

Round 1: skip put 1 unit on P5
Round 2: Noah-Noise-Biscuit-SBS-Centi
Round 3: Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Emilia-Jackal

Quatum on Centi and Jackal

[umbral crown]

Ssakura-Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Jackal
Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Biscuit-SBS
Crown-Scarlet-Rapunzel-Centi-Drake

[umbral crown]

Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Drake-Centi
Scarlet-X.Anne-Noir-Rosanna-Jackal
Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Biscuit-Rapunzel

[calm kettle]

@slender forge

soon drop 💀 to many revenge

i cant beat them. need more rupe

[eternal finch]

Will test them out, thanks!

[mild solstice]

Any help here for SP def teams?

[calm kettle]

change tia to naga ... (noir blackbunny with biscuit. for save white bunny.) biscuit with noah soon. for reference.

[vapid lake]

does this mean i shouldn't attack anything bigger than 15% even if my team comp counters theirs?

[slender forge]

🐳

[calm kettle]

farm kraken eh double reward.

[slender forge]

Only do pve and solo raid, me suck at pvp

[calm kettle]

me suck at raid/pve

[slender forge]

lel

[stray pagoda]

Look how the top people in your server have their teams setup and try to use something similar

[mild moat]

any ideas for team comps for this guy?

[calm kettle]

(counter centi with sbs . they emilia with privaty. team try it_ at 2nd is hard

[rocky sparrow]

Crow counter

[median flare]

attack team

r1: 2rl noah, noah noise sbs centi anis or whatever, just don't feed. quantum on centi or anis
r2: p1 defender taunter+biscuit, sanis
r3: 3rl scarjack with 2 buffers. your t1 could work, replace centi with emi if needed.

take your pick

[vapid lake]

is that u (ss redacted)

[median flare]

yeah, that's me

i don't have any pilgrim dps

[vapid lake]

and u've been playing for longer than me

[median flare]

ikr, sometimes(?) gacha does go hard

[vapid lake]

cinderella will save ur account trust

[median flare]

don't get me high hope

[vapid lake]

[median flare]

i'm coping

[mild moat]

something like this?

replaced anis with rap for cp deficit reasons, my laplace is lap+ and my highest cp unit

[median flare]

your t1 need to like I said or else, it's 3rl. i'm not so sure if it will win. sometimes noah burst after scarlet burst. idk why. maybe other could answer

[mild moat]

missing one ol piece for anis T.T curse this furnace. and skills are 6/6/6 anything you think anis worth upgrading skills or something on?

[median flare]

probably hold on, you could just do r2 and r3 instead

[mild moat]

so skip t1 put something in slot5, and then the teams i already have for 2/3? or should i split out the t2 chara i to t2/3?

[median flare]

yeah , exactly

[mild moat]

t2 lost cause biscuit died before burst, hrm. team 3 won easy

[median flare]

t2 what did you use

[mild moat]

same as shown

[mild moat]

I GOT THE TETRA DEF HELMET YOOOOOOO

moran or anis get it? for pvp ofc

[median flare]

r2 4rl blanc sanis emilia biscuit rh (sanis and emilia can be swap position)
r3 3rl scarlet laplace+ xanne liter jackal

or

r2 4rl moran xanne sanis biscuit laplace+
r3 3rl scarlet blanc redhood emilia jackal

[lament quartz]

What's a good team against this one? I was using the team below, but it's not consistent as before. I'd win but sometimes lose. Is there a better team I can make against it? These are my girls rn
Can puit some in Synchro if needed

[muted stag]

@velvet sky @blissful willow @junior briar able to cook or too high cp

[junior briar]

calc CP yourself

team is fine

[muted stag]

team 1 15% deficit
team 2 15.9

[junior briar]

put higher level cube on

[muted stag]

then wont burst gen be slow?

[junior briar]

quantum is a myth

put high lvl cube on sbs blanc biscuit

[muted stag]

sbs blanc already have my lvl 11 resi cube

still 15.7 and 15.9 deficit

[junior briar]

just pull out quantum more

[muted stag]

if whole team resil lvl 11 its only 15%

[junior briar]

you're fine till 15.6

so calc it to the last digit

[muted stag]

oh i tot its 14.3

i lost first team welp quantum might be true

@junior briar

[junior briar]

[muted stag]

seems like quantum does help

[junior briar]

u lost because your SBS fat HP, not because quantum u bafoon

[muted stag]

wym sbs fat hp

[junior briar]

your biscuit got blanc buff

put HP cube on her and check cp again

[muted stag]

welp outta tries

[junior briar]

u didnt burst late

[muted stag]

so blanc buff was suppose to go to sbs?

[junior briar]

yes

[muted stag]

my biscuit base hp is still higher than sbs

[gaunt sentinel]

ups

[muted stag]

it already has the highest hp cube

[muted stag]

do i have to doll up biscuit or smth then?

[junior briar]

[junior briar]

show screenshot

[muted stag]

both resil cube lvl 11

[junior briar]

oh shiet it's the doll

the doll ruin it

no?

[muted stag]

probably my sbs doll sr lvl 15

so i got to at least lvl 5 sr doll on biscuit?

[junior briar]

no just wait

[muted stag]

wait for what

[junior briar]

wait for me to have free time

[muted stag]

oh ok'

[junior briar]

that doesnt make any sense to me

biscuit has more hp than sbs

jackal link made everyone take equal damage

even with doll

[cobalt pine]

this has changed a lot for me in terms of gettin blanc indom

never use jackal

obviously better players than me can get it to work but my pea sized brain can only make it work every time without jackal

[gaunt sentinel]

i have anis too tbh

nvm i won

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/watchmen-gif-8794746

[lunar dirge]

hp cube doesn't affect base hp,you need to do math

[pastel narwhal]

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

Waiting last day to hit C1

[wild patio]

slow and steady win the race

[pastel narwhal]

just like the forg and the hare story

[rich quail]

forg

sip

[mighty haven]

Frog account

Hare account

[storm quail]

He gonna snipe me before reset isn't it

[worthy knoll]

Can you check next time, against the same guy with the same team and using your same team on the vid (don't change the cubes you used in the vid), but just simply swap Biscuit and Jackal position

[tawny vine]

still so silly all it took was pulling noah to afk sp. tho I know 1 bad reshuffle is all it takes

[bleak shale]

It just takes 1 of them to ask pvp discord how to beat

And it's ogre

[idle shard]

Counter for this team?

[hot birch]

any way to defeat and defend against this?

[gritty parcel]

I use a moran biscuit sumer anis team, it's a wining matchup aigainst noah summer anis teams

[hot birch]

moran not build

[gritty parcel]

no need if enough power, she can tank everything even at zero investments

[hot birch]

ok ill try it out. thanks

[rotund spindle]

oh my god I hate emma users

[desert sphinx]

hello, could I get some suggestions for my 3 teams ? both for attacking and defending if it's not the same. To be honest, I have no idea about the in and outs of arena thank you in advance

jackal and biscuit are in the wishlist but no chance for now sadly

[gaunt sentinel]

oh man

[tawny vine]

i would use the same team except emilia instead of RH

[uneven raft]

What 3 Teams should I set up in SP Arena

[surreal fable]

EMILIA CARRIED

[bitter cipher]

Is noise, Noah, scarlet, jackal, and biscuit (in that slot order) a good team or nah?

[umbral crown]

Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/Red Hood/Jackal should work

[idle shard]

Thank you

[raven plover]

SR 15 emma?

[glacial palm]

@grizzled bone

[grizzled bone]

[valid aurora]

what in high hell is this targetting?? man i love arena

[grizzled bone]

I dont even remember what I cooked for you

[umbral crown]

4ndy cooking

I like when that happens

[glacial palm]

Caishen cooked, not me

[umbral crown]

Oh, then he is a good chef

[glacial palm]

im just a humble pve cook

[misty drum]

wouldnt anis be p5 here for biscuit s2

[valid aurora]

i was testing something and changed it around then it worked but that targetting was just ???

[umbral crown]

i imagine, everyone has their talents

[hot birch]

to you even know how pvp targeting works? p5 always gets hit 1st

i think

😳

[valid aurora]

[valid aurora]

i really burnt the kitchen there

[granite anchor]

are there any relevant buffers besides Maxwell who can buff without bursting? im trying to cook some jank

[misty drum]

noir, privaty, drake. buffs arent that big tho

[granite anchor]

yeah, not big enough
i was trying to run double buff ein and still run a double buff emilia but i dont think it's happening

[hidden wind]

What's a counter to Scarlet Black Shadow, Blanc, Noise, Biscuit, Jackal?

[glacial palm]

either faster nuke or sakura or SAnis

[keen vapor]

That's what enemy shotguns does

[hidden wind]

Than kyou

[keen vapor]

Or Rosanna to unlink Scarlet

[hidden wind]

Tried Noah Rapunzel SAnis Biscuit Jackal and it worked

[keen vapor]

Yeah, Noah blocks Scarlet pretty well

[dry bramble]

Im having trouble with SP Arena. My Red Hood teams doesnt perform like they used to, back then they were the unit and really good because of Emma's tanking but for some reason Emma became weak and now my best team currently is Privaty. Would like an advice or this.
Team 1: Emma, Crown, Red Hood, Bunny Soda and Rapunzel(Bunny Soda and Rapunzel did not really matter back then)
Team 2: Moran, Poli, Privaty, Biscuits and Emilia

Main problem with Team 1 I see is how slow suddenly to enter first burst

[umbral crown]

Emma and Crown are MG, RH is SR and the rest will not help you to burst on time

you need to update your teams

[dry bramble]

Figured, guess I need to upgrade RL units.

[keen vapor]

Centi/Anis/jackal

[merry grotto]

what would a good three squad lineup be for me,

i got noise/centi/rapunzel/rh/bsoda in the first team

[sly terrace]

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anyway I can beat this team?

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[velvet moat]

Any tips for 5 teams formation in Champion arena?

[radiant fox]

we already have champion arena ?

[velvet moat]

not yet

but dev note mentioned it so it will be soon i guess

and rumor said need 5 teams in Champion arena so thats why

[radiant fox]

use Blanc + Sbs, that guy doesn't have biscuit to fend off sbs

[copper creek]

while we do not help in this server anymore - since it's you, what i would say is

just hold on to resources first and cook after we know the full ruleset

overall, ca aside, i dont like any of your teams and would not personally run any of them (neither ca nor spa)

[velvet moat]

fair enough

[copper creek]

but yea for future reference - maybe ask in your union server is better, zixk and i will check there 😅

[velvet moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-nod-nodding-yeah-cute-gif-21922661

[stone iris]

Would be interesting if Shiftup brought back Endless Duel from Destiny Child for Nikke

[grizzled bone]

what's that?

[livid pasture]

Has Keripo joined the chat? what does he think of Quency as a replacement for Rosanna in PvP?

[grizzled bone]

Keripo is apart of this chat but hasn't chimed in yet about Quency for pvp. He posts his analysis and opinions in spurts

if he's done a pvp analysis he's very good about including it in his tier-list https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist
so if you dont see him here you can check that regularly

[coarse lake]

Qeq and Rosa roles aren't even remotely similar

[grizzled bone]

i completely glossed over that part

[livid pasture]

The bomb she uses seems interesting for her burst 3

[storm quail]

This is my defense team, is there any fatal flaws i should fix?

[crystal flicker]

We don't?

[thorn crest]

Only u help in my dm

[storm quail]

So this channel dead?

[thorn crest]

[pastel narwhal]

[gaunt cypress]

[crystal flicker]

Not sure about deficit and T2 but,
Scarlet Blanc Anis Moran Jackal
Noah Biscuit Alice Rapunzel Centi
Tia Naga RedHood Pepper Noir

[rich quail]

[hazy tinsel]

i hadnt been looking at my battle records cuz im just been chilling at rank6 and i see this. ive still been getting my 2.7k gems so it doesnt affect me

[vapid lake]

it is your duty to hit him back and make him spend more gems

[copper creek]

speaking for zixk and i only - we dont at the current moment

anyway not like its needed, whats in pins is enough

[lunar dirge]

where are other pvp cooks

[loud sonnet]

Whel attk me and i won somehow

[crystal flicker]

Fair enough

[umbral crown]

they are probably in the kitchen

[pastel narwhal]

that a good pvp channel name

[cedar gate]

Sp def teams?

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Blanc Anis Jackal Centi
Noise Noah Biscuit SAnis Rapunzel
Tia XAnne Alice Pepper Noir

[long chasm]

Blanc emi rh biscuit jackal

[long chasm]

Normal sanis team

[umbral crown]

your team 3 does not have a real B1 since Tia is a Re enter B1

[crystal flicker]

What do you think Pepper is?

[umbral crown]

a possible nukker

[crystal flicker]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Guys, what we thinking about +70 level diff

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Blanc Anis Jackal Centi
Noah Tia Pepper SAnis Biscuit
Bay Rapunzel RedHood Noir BSoda

[umbral crown]

Auto ans hope for the best

[keen vapor]

:pepeh:

[terse abyss]

Is there any counter to biscuit teams?

[keen vapor]

I forgot

[umbral crown]

you either buy core dust to close to gap or just skip the enemy

if you face 70 levels

[keen vapor]

I'm out of money

[umbral crown]

You need to work hard

[keen vapor]

I can't @ that

[umbral crown]

Oh

[vague cedar]

I don't have xanne who should i use

[keen vapor]

Can you show the full team please?

[terse abyss]

Ignore my team it's just my worst one in that slot

[crystal flicker]

Any decent B2 with good regen

[keen vapor]

Poli

[mild moat]

did this one and won. emi died before burst but who cares :p

[keen vapor]

To have a "worst team" on attack is recommended to skip the fight with one unit alone

And well, looks tricky

What usually happens? Enemy team gets to burst?

[gaunt cypress]

Imagine watching someone spend their life saving to ROOKIE ARENA and still failing to get it SMH

[terse abyss]

i just end up not killing the taunt

[vague cedar]

okayyy thankss

[terse abyss]

so the whole team lives then i eventually die to their burst

i think his cp is fairly low so i can proably just brute force it

[keen vapor]

right, Noah taunt allows for Rosanna to be kept alive

Stupid internet

[terse abyss]

i have to read a bit more into how the AI determines who gets hit

cuz yea i guess if i can snipe rosanna then the fights over

back when i was playing Destiny Child every unit skill had a priority for certain units, I dont see that here with a few exceptions of certain burst skills

[keen vapor]

The usual is everyone attacks P1, but is the second fight so it you may get residual targeting from the previous round

[terse abyss]

residual targeting sounds unintended...

[keen vapor]

To brute force this you'll need a team that reaches 112100 combat power or better

[terse abyss]

tbh been pretty lazy in sp arena and been in rank 5 in my server this whole week since nobody fights me and everyone in 1-3 has like 100k more points than i do lol

too much of a pay to win game mode for me to mald over it

[grizzled bone]

Eh that's only 300 gem difference if you stay in that rank. Not worth malding

[idle shard]

I was recommended Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/Red Hood/Jackal earlier. Does normal SAnis team work better?

[mighty haven]

round 3 clutch

Why can we not have peace my fellow C8-10s

[umbral crown]

that boy is cooking teams

[sly terrace]

I just beat him using a higher CP team

By 50k

Any better defense teams I can make with this? Ordered by power, highest to lowest

[mighty haven]

how built is your SAnis?

[sly terrace]

0

[mighty haven]

[sly terrace]

I beat a guy with jackal and superior PvP units just with CP gap

[mighty haven]

Yeah, that can happen, however the opposite can happen too where the CP gap won't beat faster RL

[umbral crown]

[sly terrace]

All his good PvP units were on one team

[gaunt cypress]

its funny that my level gap with that boy is at 25+ lvl, Even with that much CP that boy still struggling.

[gaunt cypress]

I would rather cooking in SP than rookie

[umbral crown]

you know, people prefer rookie

[gaunt cypress]

yeah but not with gems, only use free attempt

[umbral crown]

you know, wild people

with no fear to success

[coarse egret]

Need some help with defense teams, everything up to guilty has OLs
My guy finally found a team that can beat me

[bright mantle]

winnable?

[keen vapor]

Thanks for reminding me

[keen vapor]

No

[bright mantle]

somehow won 3 times in a row

[keen vapor]

Now I'll get demoted

[keen vapor]

So Summer Anis survives and lifesteals trough that Indom huh? Good info :novel noted:

[storm quail]

Can you hit him again and record, I am a lil curious

Did he gave indom to wrong person?

[keen vapor]

I doubt it, but Noise max HP buff + strong life steal apparently does the work

[bright mantle]

gave indom to biscuit

[storm quail]

[keen vapor]

Huh, so it was

[storm quail]

Knew it

[keen vapor]

Demote soon

[bright mantle]

i attacked him 5 times and all of them are given to biscuit

[storm quail]

Maybe it's because your Emilia hit Biscuit who's not in Jackal link, so lose more HP

[keen vapor]

[storm quail]

Yeah RH, Emilia and Jackals share damage

Emilia hits 3 target, so Blanc Emilia Biscuit

Blanc can't give herself indorm, and Emilia takes less damage through Jackal

[keen vapor]

So, to make it functional, RH in P3?

[storm quail]

Probably

[umbral crown]

[stoic leaf]

can somebody help me with sp arena

[umbral crown]

whats your sync

[thorn pagoda]

mine or jack/

277

[umbral crown]

yours

[umbral crown]

nice

[grizzled bone]

[dapper void]

Are there hackers in arena? I just played against a team with a level 1 Mihara and somehow they won.

My 2B's burst went off and it didn't even kill Mihara, who was level 1, and their health was unaffected

[grizzled bone]

if they still have hackers doing pve i dont see why they couldnt hack in pvp

[junior briar]

no

[dapper void]

No idea how the Mihara survived 2B's burst ngl

[junior briar]

if you lose then it's because your team sucks

they cant hack pvp

try record the attack i wanna see

[junior briar]

because hacker injected hacked number on their client side.
when you play pvp , your client does the calculation, not theirs

[grizzled bone]

interesting, i didn't know it worked like that

[sinful berry]

are you arena group 1042 @lost narwhal

[open jewel]

Is this a good team comp for SP Arena? Or will it take too long to enter full burst with Tia's re-enter burst 1

[keen vapor]

Even ignoring Tia's delay (which isn't a lot honestly), you should put RH in P2 instead so she gets Indom buff from Blanc ~~if she doesn't dies first~

[lunar dirge]

who let you cook

[keen vapor]

[lunar dirge]

misinformation academy doing it's job again

[keen vapor]

I misinformed too much in so little time

[vapid lake]

misinfo academy: expert rank

[keen vapor]

|| ||

[copper creek]

m in ma stands for misinformation

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Cross

[thin rune]

Looking for SP arena suggestion

[keen vapor]

Now I have to do PVP community service to avoid getting demo- WAIT, you are 6 months in 160 wall?

[thin rune]

Is it 6 months already? I forgot, i started playing when crown released

[keen vapor]

Where's your silver mileage

[keen vapor]

Well, it's 5 actually....

[thin rune]

All my pulls went into Naga 😩

[keen vapor]

Silver mileage is what you get after pulls

[vapid lake]

is your kilo 3 star or did you skip her

[lunar dirge]

the delulu yapper certified

[thin rune]

I didnt play that much when crown released, so yeah no 3 star kilo for me

[keen vapor]

But you have 200 silver mileage right?

[thin rune]

Yep. used it for max liter if i remember

[keen vapor]

... So, if used, that's a no?

[thin rune]

For now no

[keen vapor]

Like, even good teams can't solve low synchro

Not on early game at least

[vapid lake]

go cook pvp teams for him
im not confident in my pvp knowledge even tho i read prydwen guide

[thin rune]

Im just chillin for now, missing few char for the decent comp, then the mlb

This is what i've been using for now, but i think most of it just filler

[keen vapor]

cooking

[worthy knoll]

What was the misinformation on that statement pic? 🤔

[lunar dirge]

isn't blanc hp buff depends on lowest hp number and not on hp%?

[lunar dirge]

nvm.i read it as noise maxhp buff&strong life steal(as noise has lifesteal mechanic)

[worthy knoll]

Wasn't he mentioning OP team?

[keen vapor]

Biscuit lifesteal to supports :pepeh:

That's why +

[glacial palm]

@grizzled bone

as long as this guy is mad

im happy

[grizzled bone]

[glacial palm]

[vapid lake]

now nobody'll attack me trust

[glacial palm]

[umbral snow]

can i get an updated rookie arena and sp arena comps pls

[keen vapor]

Blanc/Asuka/Biscuit/Pepper/Drake

Rei/Naga/Rosanna/Anis/Jackal

And I recommend use auto for last team even though I cooked this:

Viper/Bunny Soda/Mari/Liter/Tia
Is not fast enough

[open jewel]

Doesn't the indom buff apply to all Nikke?

[keen vapor]

No, just to the lowest remaining HP ally

[open jewel]

Oke ty

[keen vapor]

What applies to all (enemies) is damage taken debuff

And every ally gets healed a bit

[open jewel]

Thanks I'll change it

[keen vapor]

it's been a pleasure to be helpful, always remember that the MA team is at your service

:DoroWalk:

[thin rune]

I dont have noir for the 1st team

[vapid lake]

[keen vapor]

Use Drake there then :deadge: my bad

[keen vapor]

C'mon Zixk commits this little mistakes all the time

edited

[thin rune]

Aight thanks for the suggestion, imma see how it perform

I really need to pass the 160 wall man

[keen vapor]

Soon™

With free pulls

[keen vapor]

Btw, you have friends added so you receive 30 points for the friendship banner daily?

[thin rune]

Yeah, i just got noise today from it

[keen vapor]

[thin rune]

I've been unlucky from the mold tho, 3 pilgrim mold giving R

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

cai cooking

[keen vapor]

Wait, didn't you got teams previously? Didn't worked?

@umbral crown I'll ask for cooking