pvp-arena

[ember swan]

i need new deff, its civil war btw

so his sanis gonna be fine? ig just try the comp

[misty finch]

Which team would be better? both are 3rl

Idk if the CP is worth the jank positioning

[crystal flicker]

2 is better imo

[ember swan]

im always atk ppl use biscuit and defender p5 if enemy use sg team, so i dont really know if p5 die the sg team gonna atk p1 or p4

[ember swan]

moran biscuit better

[crystal flicker]

SG just attack everyone iirc

[misty finch]

Alright now it's either 3RL or 4RL

[crystal flicker]

get faster burst

[misty finch]

4rl does have way more CP though

[crystal flicker]

Depend on your enemies tho

[glad meteor]

Sgs better than blanc/centi for cp pad if you’re not planning on bursting

You don’t need a battery if you’re not going to burst

[misty finch]

Hmm IG

[misty finch]

Most of them have higher CP than me

[ember swan]

im gonna delete it soon

look when rh die from noir where she targeting

[misty finch]

Defending SGs will yeah

[wary jay]

SG on defense will always target P5

[misty finch]

But on the ATK it's different behaviour

[wary jay]

reverse order compared to the traditional units

[wary jay]

might as well run Noise Biscuit combo with the healing they provide for SAnis than running Moran and putting Noise there as a display lol

[misty finch]

So 1st team then?

[wary jay]

or allocate Noise to another team and run Moran Biscuit if this was SP

[crystal flicker]

Is Kraken level 1 really better than intercept ex tho

[misty finch]

Yeah but I don't think there's a good way to put noise in a team

[ember swan]

ye

[crystal flicker]

Got no rock smh

[glad meteor]

For rocks yes. Better flat% chance

[misty finch]

I was doing that but def still got beat 😔

[wary jay]

you get a better % chance but at the end of the day its about getting lucky

atleast you get rock pity boxes

[crystal flicker]

well yeah

[glad meteor]

I get to stage 4 and no rocks

43% failed 9x

[wary jay]

SAnis will always suffer by getting bullied by a Scar Jack comp, S2 reflect and all, and your SAnis is already low health before Scar pulls off her nuke

[ember swan]

if u cant get SI to phase 9 its better do AI phase 1. atleast u got rocks pity
AI rewards give u small material upgrade

they need to updt class academy fr for make AI drop material better than SI

for upgrade OL

[glad meteor]

Tactics academy upgrade on anni me thinks

[ember swan]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1276910572306174065 pls vote

[umbral crown]

who has cook Ssakura with 1 buffer?

[glad meteor]

1 buffer sakura, 2rl?

[umbral crown]

3 RL

im trying something new for defense

but still she needs more OL

tetra attacker besides helmet is a pain to get

[hexed nexus]

Noob question, generally for Scarlet comp, do you want her at p1 or p2?

[umbral crown]

P1

[hexed nexus]

Also what's generally the best Scarlet-Jackal comp without Noah/Anne?

This is my current comp:
Scarlet/Blanc/Litter/Centi/Jackal

But they're consistently losing to Noah comp.

[umbral crown]

because noah counters scarlet at same speed

[hexed nexus]

2 RL means I need to replace either Litter or Blanc with SR Anis right?

I also have Drake, Viper, and Maiden, but they're still slower than sr Anis at generating Burst gauge yea?

Rookie

Well I always lost against the standard Noah-RH and Noah-Biscuit/Rapunzel comps.

There are multiple variations of that team, but I'm consistently losing to them

Before that, how's 2RL Scarlet look without Anne?

Scarlet/sr Anis/Litter/Centi/Jackal?

I'm at 220 rn

May I know what's the significance of p2 vs p3 in this case?

[flat arch]

anis may die since she is a purple unit, less bulk to tank the splash damage of the rockets

sometimes does matter and this

[hexed nexus]

Noted

[trim fable]

works ty

[umbral crown]

zixk, in a comp like Noah-Scarlet-Rosanna-Noir-Jackal.. should place scar on P1 or leave as it is

i think noah on P2 might feed enemy

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

cool, will keep that in mind. maybe i will give her SR doll tomorrow

will do that

and see how it works

is the CS bug fix?

because my noise has 4.92% charge speed and she is in a team with emi

my emi total cs is like 19% so that 4.92% would be added to my emi?

[worthy lake]

Any counter comp for this ? Rookie thanks

[umbral crown]

waos ,so my emi is practically 21%+

[worthy lake]

noah/noise/emi/biscuit/jackal
ok ?

Or too slow gen

[umbral crown]

Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Biscuit-Jackal

thats ICBM

[worthy lake]

Okay

Hehe thank me pvp newb

[copper creek]

maybe not the jackal please

centi in place

[valid aurora]

LAPLACE MY HERO LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

[ashen urchin]

Hmm how to build noise.

[copper creek]

assuming u are newbie - just 4/4/4 first

[umbral crown]

oh why? to be a bit slower?

[copper creek]

ya im worried if opponent feed your team to burst faster = 🙂

[worthy lake]

Oh

[umbral crown]

[worthy lake]

After centi > jackal my cp deficit no more

Lets try it

[umbral crown]

did not think about that

[coarse lake]

[worthy lake]

@umbral crown @copper creek

Centi seem good choice, my emi indom by a border

[coarse lake]

the ein defense lost to someone else

bleh, ig I'll just go back to old defense

[ashen urchin]

These good for def?

[umbral crown]

[worthy lake]

@umbral crown my emi burst them while their noah shield is still up

Burst too fast ?

[copper creek]

u won , doesnt matter lol

[copper creek]

lgtm

[ashen urchin]

Lgtm?

[worthy lake]

[umbral crown]

[worthy lake]

Isnt shotgun feed jackal better ?

[ashen urchin]

I tried it and was losing but wanted to give it a shot again after I was able to build sanis to 10 10 9

[worthy lake]

I see because the video I shared above blocked the burst, but my team still managed to kill it

[ashen urchin]

Trying to figure out how to make it better or who to invest skill wise. Emilia or noise?

[worthy lake]

@worn field

Oh

So centi is fine for this situation then

[umbral crown]

it is, looks like a defense zixk would give or munch

[umbral crown]

kinda but as long as you win, its what matters

[worthy lake]

Noted

noted

[worthy lake]

Noted , is ok Im learning the tricks too

Noted thanks for the guide

[umbral crown]

nice

i noticed, when i saw Jackal-Scarlet-poli... i just thought, this looks like a zixk cook

i hardly ever do that but i guess i might start to when i cook for someone

[copper creek]

rosy also no longer cooking for public? 😂

[ashen urchin]

Thanks as always @worn field appreciate all the work. I'll give it a shot again. Last time I think I was under leveled. Would u suggest skilling up Emilia to replace scalter?

Trying to see where I can cp pad and how

Oh def not bad I thought it was more

[umbral crown]

i do sometimes, just work been kinda hard these days

[ashen urchin]

Ty!

[umbral crown]

and when i am about the backlog is cleared

[crystal flicker]

back to the top after catch up with the cp gap lol

[umbral crown]

not like anyone ask me in private to cook

[ashen urchin]

Best way to cp pad?

[umbral crown]

im still missing RH to give Ssakura her propper buffers

[copper creek]

dolls, OL pieces (dont need to level, just OL+0 because OL lines are the thing that + CP)

[crystal flicker]

Still mising Blanc and DrunkScarlet to make sleep pvp team

[ashen urchin]

Ty. I figured but solo raid refuses to give me rl dolls

[copper creek]

tell me about it lmao

oh 5 rocks from ultra today. thank you

[ashen urchin]

I have 11 blue MG dolls I'm debating on gambling to combine...

Not sure that's smart...

[copper creek]

blue MG dolls? yeah u can combine once, not like they're worth much anyway

[ashen urchin]

Yeah I have 11 sitting around figure I can combine once to see if I get lucky

[hexed nexus]

How do we know that our comp is fast enough to be considered 2RL comp?

[coarse lake]

are all your mg units you got equipped with one yet

if you got spare blues and no one of importance missing any, yeah combine them, just leave 1 just in case

combining is huge for maint kits

[worthy lake]

Dear @umbral crown & @worn field I cooked another sp def comp can have your assurance is the line up decently good ?

option 1
noah/noise/sanis/bisc/centi
blanc/sbs/rh/noir/emi
rapunzel/alice/lap+/xanne/jackal

Option 2
noah/noise/sanis/bisc/centi
blanc/sbs/rh/emi/jackal
rapunzel/alice/noir/xanne/lap+

[worthy lake]

My roster

[ashen urchin]

Any suggestion to use my last blue rl doll for? Scalter has purple...others no dolls

[worthy lake]

Emi in my opinion

[ashen urchin]

Best option for dps?

[copper creek]

just hold first imo

[worthy lake]

@copper creek can comment too 🙏

[worthy lake]

Follow Munch suggestion

[ashen urchin]

Gotcha. Don't think k my cp is competitive enough I think the asks can out cp me

[copper creek]

hm

[ashen urchin]

Attackers

Only have core pieces chars built non pvp really

[copper creek]

im not the best person to ask on dolls - anyway if its a R doll i'd put biscuit or jackal first

emi ok too

laplace ok too if u plan to give her ssr treasure

[ashen urchin]

As u can see here

[worthy lake]

For my acc , all my RL SR dolls on : sbs
R dolls on : emi, noah, noise
laplace is treasured

[ashen urchin]

Os this even worth?

[copper creek]

for me yes
but ymmv

[ashen urchin]

I wish Sr would drop some damn rl r dolls

[umbral crown]

option 2 you could try moving rapunzel to P3 and Alice P1, Lap+ P2 and noir P5

[worthy lake]

Gotcha, thank you

[umbral crown]

selection box tomorrow

[copper creek]

for def team - just put whatever as long as its 3rl speed

[umbral crown]

last team is 4 RL

but could give a try

[ashen urchin]

But purple. Not as efficient

[umbral crown]

[ashen urchin]

Care to shade me to do the same?

Sway

[copper creek]

very high burst gen (clip sg-ish) and stronk auto attack

[ashen urchin]

Want to work on real pvp rankings. For those sweet gems haha I usually finish c10 but want to go higher

[copper creek]

deal w the cp deficit first - push campaigns as hard as u can

if u got cp deficit penalty theres no further conversation to be had

[ashen urchin]

I'm on ch 31 I think and pretty far on hard

[ashen urchin]

I forget the deficit?

[copper creek]

ur sync should be full clear on normal campaign

[ashen urchin]

Really?

Instead be doing something wrong? Lol

[umbral crown]

see ya later bois

[ashen urchin]

Prob no way for me to catch the top guys due to their larger sync level gap..

[copper creek]

yea thats why push campaigns

if theyre buying core dust with $ its gg, but

[ashen urchin]

Is it possible to catch them?

[copper creek]

if u can minimise that gap do it imo

[ashen urchin]

I jist started to use gems on event tix

Didn't know how helpful that was before

[copper creek]

idk about catch, but for sure u can make the gap not widen further

do that for event hard stage, not yet

[ashen urchin]

Yeah waiting

Realized since I started I prob lost 10 sync levels by hoarding for pulls instead of core

[copper creek]

yea

[worthy lake]

Already happen, just change your approach

[copper creek]

anyway back to the earlier question on laplace+

shes definitely the most useful pvp treasure so far

[worthy lake]

And pve

[copper creek]

i just dont know if i recommend to u cuz u might wanna raise other things

[worthy lake]

I used her on both

[copper creek]

im not so sure about this

[worthy lake]

U need to ask yourself what u need

[ashen urchin]

I'm not sire who else to raise

[worthy lake]

I used her to clear iron weak hard stages, its alright really

[ashen urchin]

I'm more at a point I need more gear level mats to ol and r dolls

[worthy lake]

Iron stages weak is hard mode ch 26

[copper creek]

its okay but still... eh
she wasnt even used in gd sr lol

[ashen urchin]

Yeah I want the most bang for buck before I use ally resources

[worthy lake]

I use her as cp cap in pvp def too ~ her burst gen is okay okay

[copper creek]

ye pvp shes good that one no questions asked

[worthy lake]

No worries

[ashen urchin]

Best option to build now? Vs say emi?

My lap is core 3 while my emi is one copy

[worthy lake]

emi is priority but doll I think laplace first

because laplace push your cp ALOT

[copper creek]

sr15 doll

[ashen urchin]

Noise needs no building?

[copper creek]

on anything will do that

[worthy lake]

Share your rosters

We not sure how to suggest

[robust blaze]

@umbral crown i just got biscuit. who do i replace?
Scarlet-Blanc-Liter-Centi-Jackal
Maid Privaty-Ssakura-Bay-Rapunzel-Anis
Moran-Viper-Noir-Bunny Soda-Maiden

these were the teams you made for me last time. but i have a pic of my units as well (not pictured: regular anis/helm/bay)

[ashen urchin]

Sorry on mobile...

[worthy lake]

THeres landscape mode but nvm

[ashen urchin]

I tried lol

[worthy lake]

Your line up look healthy to me

What your question again, noise ?

[ashen urchin]

Just where I can cp pad and who to focus on next

Seems like it's emilia

[worthy lake]

emi 4/7/7 , 4OL lvl0

That is my minimum

[ashen urchin]

Yeah I guess I gotta commit if I want to go futher in pvp

[worthy lake]

I think you no problem, I am pve player , I play pvp often but not very season

[ashen urchin]

All this work for an extra 3 to 600 gems lol

[worthy lake]

I am learning from top players like Rosy, Munch, Zixk, Eon, etc

Hahahahha

[ashen urchin]

I should listen to them more haha

[worthy lake]

Why gems ?

[ashen urchin]

Always get rocked by cp

[ashen urchin]

End of season rank rewards

[worthy lake]

Yeah true, I am only c7-c8 but to me its a comfortable rank

THose top 5 they are World War Nikke

[copper creek]

huh
4/7/7 enough on emilia
any further on s1 is to build for emi21

[ashen urchin]

I finish usually at c9 c10

[grizzled bone]

lol some of these co-op ppl make me laugh. None of them wanted to play a b2 so they dont get burst chain

[worthy lake]

Oh is it? Ok my bad then 4/7/7

[ashen urchin]

Want to end it quicker

[worthy lake]

My emi is 777

Maybe I reset her

[velvet sky]

always have same or with b1

[worthy lake]

Munch said your emi 4/7/7

[grizzled bone]

so now im sitting watching them vote on me using Liter b1

[ashen urchin]

I'll give the def a shot hopefully o do t drop too much. Usually my old def was ok for a while

[worthy lake]

rapunzel is also good in pvp and semi-uses in pve

[copper creek]

dont change a def that works

[worthy lake]

I used rapunzel a lot in iron weak stages

[ashen urchin]

It's hit-or-miss kiss like random pull me down

If they get lucky and screws me over

[velvet sky]

but i always go with my wife so i go b1-3 & then its whatever i did my thing

[ashen urchin]

Same people will hit me and win so wanted to try something new and see if that works instead

[grizzled bone]

nah just sip some tea and watch them be dummies

[copper creek]

tea?

[grizzled bone]

in munchs case liquor

[rich quail]

@umbral crown I think I’ll stick with this def you made a little longer

These people used to cp gap me

Not too much gap nowadays

[grizzled bone]

did you use your lil stash?

[rich quail]

No

I have become @keen vapor

[grizzled bone]

niceu

[rich quail]

I did use 10 cases because someone who gapped me by 300k knocked me off and I lost 2 of 3 attacks on him

So I was angwy

[copper creek]

no more
i drank nonstop for 12h straight

im now sober
no more alcohol, the rest of the year

[junior zephyr]

Im dealing with a troll whos spent over 300 crystals to sit at rank 3 in special... in other words hes burned the 300 crystals hed have gotten as a reward if he could actually hold it

So annoyed with him

[grizzled bone]

3 months. Got it

[velvet sky]

1 day

[ashen urchin]

Ty for all the advice and recommendations! Also quitting is for losers!

[keen vapor]

@umbral crown does not care about gemming

[junior zephyr]

Im burning gems just to spite this guy now

[waxen tartan]

is this real?
they finally stop attacking
many thanks @worn field and @copper creek

[copper creek]

is that how much faith you have in me...? you're horrible... 😭

[copper creek]

i drink more than this whole server combined i get to quit honourably 🤣

[copper creek]

gud stuff!

[ashen urchin]

Hmmm...I beg to differ...

[round pilot]

I wanted to try my Laplace A+. Please build me a Rookie & Advance Arena.

Atk and Def

[rich quail]

Really? I know against sg like S.Anis you want Jackal… but why is Jackal not a good idea against Noah/Biscuit/S.Anis?

[velvet sky]

[junior zephyr]

seriously... this guy.. has spent 1000 gems

to get 300 extra gems MAYBE

And Im just spiting him now

[round pilot]

It's not about the gems, It's about sending a message

[junior zephyr]

and the message is

that hes behind me, and wont get ahead of me

And Im willing to burn more gems than him just to spite him

so maybe he should just accept place #4 and leave me alone

[ashen urchin]

Rip changed d dropped from. C9 to d3 lol

[junior zephyr]

I think he gave up

[velvet sky]

out of gems?

[junior zephyr]

maybe

Or hes waiting for me to sleep

[round pilot]

Same like my Top Fan. Same reward still attack me. No attempt wasted.

[junior zephyr]

so he can take the overnight advantage again

[keen vapor]

I got sniped but I guess I rather just sleep and attack tomorrow

[junior zephyr]

I just got annoyed with this guy

When he spent gems to try and sit above me

so I taught him a lesson, we both lose, but he loses more

[crystal flicker]

Well, next week is SP Reshuffle so better try than nothing lol

[junior zephyr]

what benefits to being in top 3 would there be...

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[crystal flicker]

Position 3 is more vulnerable to be attacked by lower ranks

[junior zephyr]

You're not making a strong case for his behavior

[grizzled bone]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[pale knoll]

Tbh, if he dropped 1k gems for you, he doesn't gaf about the rank and just wants to annoy you

[rich quail]

It’s like watching a venus fly trap

https://tenor.com/view/mandark-dexter’s-laboratory-laughing-evil-laugh-gif-8584847386607130099

[sage rampart]

What are the best teams for the SP arena?

[crystal flicker]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-sp-arena-teams/
https://nikke.gg/special-arena-team-compositions/

[round pilot]

Up. Someone please help

[sharp beacon]

best teams for special pvp and rookie pvp?

[tawny vine]

I was there then I realized there's no point attacking if you can't defend against their team.

So I only attack now when I cook up a new defence team that they can't beat

it kinda makes sense, it's not your spot if it can't be defended

[distant ingot]

whatlvlshouldemiskillsbe@

[copper creek]

477

[distant ingot]

o

ihavethatalr

whatdoido😭harpstheonlypersonwhodoesntCPgapme

[umbral crown]

Its not about gems, its about sending a message

[umbral crown]

Hello, once i arrive at work will tell you im kinda late

[strange linden]

how should I beat this comp?

[next lintel]

Hey guys, just looking for some general advice on my defense squads if anyone is willing to help. My current layout has been enough to let me sit at Challenger 10 in my current bracket comfortably, but the good times are due to end soon. I'm aware that my current compositions are mostly cope and would appreciate advice from anyone who has their head wrapped around pvp a bit more tightly than me.

I'll post two sets of images, my current defense teams and my current nikkes sorted by power.

Thanks 👍

[glad meteor]

Worry, Tia as a burst one

[worthy knoll]

Curiousity gotten over me coz I saw a Blanc SBS, I know I would have won if I went Biscuit SBS instead but I really wanted to know how my Nero without Biscu will fare against Blanc SBS

[left nest]

If you have Tia in a comp you need another B1. Because she makes you go back to B1 stage so if you only have her, well, basically you'll never trigger your B2 and B3.

[worthy knoll]

Though somehow I feel I could survive once I get DR cube to 7 and doll from SR5 to SR15.. mmh maybe using healing cube too on Quiry 🤔

[next lintel]

Silly me, I totally forgot that when I was messing around with the comps this morning 😅

oh i just realized your name is buggy, that's awkward

[rich quail]

@worthy knoll Thank you for helping me exact revenge on that guy who was cp gapping me several days ago

I hit him hard because he was at C9

I followed exactly what you said, giving Emilia a Vigor Cube to make sure her HP was higher than SBS

[strange linden]

what your moran is made of lmao, she refuse to die

[worthy knoll]

All skills max and 4 def OL lines, 2 at black

[next lintel]

I'll throw pepper on instead of Maiden, that fixes everything

[worthy knoll]

Oh and SR5 doll too

[strange linden]

I thought DEF is not a good stat

[worthy knoll]

Noice

[worthy knoll]

That 1 damage coz of Def OL and Skill 1 combined. I think only SBS was the only one damaging her at that hp threshold

[rich quail]

Yeah, you made an awesome call on that team. SBS overcame 4 of the opponent’s members during indom

I did have to give Biscuit a slight armor boost, because due to him leveling up since we last fought, I was like… 50 cp under and would have gotten penalty

You reminded me how important it is to keep hp in mind when trying for indom, and I’ll make sure to remember for next time

[strange linden]

damn, guess I'll reroll to get more DEF
and maybe max skill 1 and 2

[worthy knoll]

The biscuit almost got indom too, that would have failed if that happened. The Scar S2 took like a chunk of her hp.

Is your biscuit not SR dolled yet?

[copper creek]

https://youtu.be/luEeoi7MWAw

[worthy knoll]

Mmh I didn't see anything weird

[glad meteor]

Ssakura

[copper creek]

oh wait no im looking at it now, its not targettting, it's s.sakura off-burst

but man that's a LOT of cores on this guy, jesus

[worthy knoll]

Ahh you mean the DoT on RH

Yeah you'll feel that if you aren't using jackal

Jackal makes SSakura DoT like just weak damage but if no damage share, you'll feel more it potency. Moreso if its on an iron unit

[rich quail]

No… only R doll

I have used a lot of R dolls for RL but have not gotten SR dolls for rl yet

I will do SR today and focus on getting Biscuit and other support/defend units dolls to R 15

btw… I’ve never gotten to c8 before

Do you think I have a chance?

my current box

And Biscuit is also on Vigor Cube

I permanently attached it to her

[glad meteor]

Bsoda/noir are good batteries to have invested

I might add viper to the list

[rich quail]

I mean, yes, Bunny Soda is good

I’m… I’m not afraid

I must not fear

Fear is the mindkiller

https://tenor.com/view/dune-mcavoy-fear-fearisthemindkiller-afraid-gif-11179437

[copper creek]

nuke t1,
2rl noah t3

[strange linden]

still need some advice, here's my roster

[rich quail]

I can’t get the burst calculator to work on my iPhone, but I’m guessing replacing SBS with Centi or SR Anis would get my shield up before opponent 1-shots and nukes?

[copper creek]

yep

if you're gonna do that, maybe put sbs in p1
sbs/noah/...
otherwise noah may die

[rich quail]

Good idea I will do that
T1, does it need more burst gen? Or will Centi be enough? Opponent has no significant burst gen comparatively

Or even SR Anis

[copper creek]

t1: doesnt matter as long as u dont die before u burst

[strange linden]

is laplace really worth to invest on for pvp?

[worthy knoll]

When you say nuke, best one is always a Scarlet Blanc RH flex Jackal

Well clip rl, emi, lap+ or clip sg are usually ones used on flex pos

[copper creek]

i dont knwo about cp and your investment, but i would probably:

sp - attack :
t1: scar/blanc/rh/noir/jackal
t2: skip <put 1 unit on p5>
t3: sbs/noah/noise/anis/centi

calculate deficit before attacking,
do not proceed if penalty.

[worthy knoll]

Or mag RL too is fine as long it has 16.66ish CS

[umbral crown]

Scarlet/Blanc/Rapunzel/Naga/Jackal
Noise/Moran/Biscuit/S.Anis/Ssakura

Liter/Rei.A/Mari/Noir/Centi

[copper creek]

which team is t1/2/3?
tell us the b3 unit only.

[glad meteor]

With bastion on my blanc, 77 bullets left when full burst is over if i pair with noir. good for biscuit, prevent target skipping

[strange linden]

Og scarlet is the first team, Sanis is the second and sbs team the third

[copper creek]

**sp - attack : **
t1 vs. scarlet: noah/noise/sbs/biscuit/jackal
t2: skip <put 1 unit on p5>
t3 vs. sbs: blanc/emilia/rh/biscuit/centi

calculate deficit before attacking.
do not proceed if penalty.

[rich quail]

SBS died just as she took out 4 members

[glad meteor]

Residual

[rich quail]

For round 3?

[copper creek]

how the hell did you win that t3 lmao

[hexed nexus]

Between purple Anis and Centi, who has better Burst2 for Arena?

[glad meteor]

Yh, they targetted noah, made them 2rl

[copper creek]

running emilia into rosanna is generally a terrible idea due to elemental disadvantage
(burst7 rosanna can kill any emilia)

[copper creek]

neither's bursts are great.
both offburst usually.

[strange linden]

I'm almost impressed you put sbs at pos 1 without any sustain

[rich quail]

I dunno… I forgot that putting Noah on p2 could feed the other team

[copper creek]

its fine, that is correct thing to do on 2rl team

[rich quail]

But it probably fed me too i dunno

[copper creek]

sbs wont die especially cuz he has jackal there - even if she does, not the worst thing in the world
noah on the other hand, if she dies - your fight is over lol

[rich quail]

I forgot about that… that’s why she died so fast

What doesn’t kill me is gonna learn me

[strange linden]

I thought he put emilia for the burst gen lol

[rich quail]

[rich quail]

Yes that was part of the reason

[copper creek]

yes, this is correct.
however you do not run emilia (water) against rosanna (electric) due to elemental disadvantage

[gilded sluice]

yo, any recommendations for improvements, or should I leave it be as it is

[rich quail]

I probably should have run straight up Anis/Centi/Jackal

[rustic sandal]

Dood the Devs just injected a Bigger Commander into my lobby ☠️

[rich quail]

and sbs + Noah, and hope noah doesn’t die fast

[copper creek]

**sp - def : **
jackal/scarlet/scalter/x.anne/noir
blanc/emilia/rh/alice/centi
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/laplace

**min. invest : **
x.anne - burst to 4-7 (4 usually enough, any further at your discretion. mine's at 7)
emilia - 4/7/7
s.anis - 7/7/9 (mandatory) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube mandatory.

quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel

tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[rich quail]

But yeah I will have to analyze that matchup a lot more in detail lol

[copper creek]

not much to look at there, its honestly just standard counters against standard def lol

if ur team burst in 2rl (no whiff) - quite hard for your sbs in p1 to die unless woefully underinvested

[gilded sluice]

yoo munch that was fast, thank you bro

[copper creek]

this is just very standard def comp

of course some small things here and there to make your CP look more scary, but nothing novel here lol

[rich quail]

True… and I did do high investments on sbs, but her sr doll still has some phases needed to become 15

[copper creek]

its fine

[gilded sluice]

in any case, thanks bro, I really do not have time currently to keep up with the meta so this helps a lot

[strange linden]

I might need new DEF comps for SP too, getting consistent loses now

[copper creek]

10/7/10 and 4OL+0 is lol

[copper creek]

you and i both lmao
hope life's treating u well man

[rich quail]

Thanks @copper creek u da bessss

[gilded sluice]

the only thing i can say is about life is - it is what it is

anyway, i gtg, wish you a pleasant day!

[copper creek]

life is great man
just as it takes, it sometimes also gives. enjoy it when it does 😉
you stay safe and take care

[odd osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shikanoko-by-murya-gif-9501555167387334429

[rich quail]

[glad meteor]

It might be target skip. Sbs goes into cover earlier

Maybe noah p1 and sbs p2

[hexed nexus]

Wait.. isn't Centi's Burst basically a team wide debuff? How's it bad?

[rich quail]

I will try that next time if I have to do a runback

I expect HUGE retaliation by the daily reset

Like I said, a lot of people hate me in that sp group

[rich quail]

I think the general consensus is… it’s not a bad burst, but there are a lot of more important burst 2s you want to employ in pvp over Centi’s

Like Blanc’s, Noah’s, even Biscuit if you have S.Anis

[copper creek]

theres quite a lot of better b2s

[rich quail]

cooktails

[glad meteor]

co-op speedrun done

[pastel narwhal]

[rich quail]

Aoi Besti my Vesti

Wait

[pastel narwhal]

im craving chizburgers

[rich quail]

What kinds of delicious chizburgers can you get in your area?

[pastel narwhal]

my boi already spent his tries today, i guess i try switching other teams tomorrow

[umbral crown]

mine has not attacked in 2 days

[pastel narwhal]

maybe bricking my scar was the thing that enabled the guy, tried to reset but got too many atk% and now im having trouble trying to reroll without losing the atk%

[pastel narwhal]

they don't love you anymore

[rich quail]

I did crazy stuff and climbed all the way to c8

[umbral crown]

even did a new cook for him

[pastel narwhal]

you put too much salt

[umbral crown]

maybe

[rich quail]

Rosy you’re the best cook tho

[pastel narwhal]

mcdonalds

[umbral crown]

no yet but i just do my watashi gambarimasu

[pastel narwhal]

i can cook my own but feelling lazy

burgers i mean

[crystal flicker]

Burger is overrated fr

[glad meteor]

COOK

Full burst today. Time to get rocks

[worthy knoll]

Again like I said before never place your main dps near the taunters. That way even if you are red health, you are fairly safe from splash damage that can kill you. Also using Noah on P2 is a bad move knowing they have XAnne on P2, her taunting XAnne will make XAnne hit 3 units. It's better to have have her on P1. You have biscuit too anyway, your team is fast already, you only need to use Noir as the feeder, no need for other units to purposely let them hit your SBS or Emi, only Noir need to hit your linked Nikkes. Noah Biscuit SBS Emilia Jackal is the better way to go for that if using that same line up.

[rich quail]

@umbral crown All of that happened today when I was at work

I still use the sp def that you built for me 2 months before, and unless a person cp gaps me by over 200k people still have extreme difficulties figuring out how to beat it

[glad meteor]

That’s scary

[umbral crown]

waos

[rich quail]

That’s why you’re the best cook

[pastel narwhal]

time to jump to challenger

[rich quail]

But… but I jumped to c8!

[pastel narwhal]

go for the gold c5

[rich quail]

I never reached such heights!

[pastel narwhal]

let them know you have money

[glad meteor]

Nero second highest CP

[rich quail]

The cp gap is enormous, but I’ll take a look if I survive reset

[pastel narwhal]

cat guardian

[worthy knoll]

Imagine if they make Nero treasured item as Ruru plushie

[umbral crown]

Merry: lets goo

[worthy knoll]

Sadfeels

[umbral crown]

i still need to read that story

[rich quail]

Yeah, that’s why I was hesitant to put in Noah at p2

Definitely will try something else if he comes at me again, but unless he wants to gem he’ll have to wait until tomorrow

I waited on purpose for this guy to get really high in rank before I got revenge on this him

[pastel narwhal]

i skipped most nikke stories

[glad meteor]

What nikke stories, all i see are gems

[worthy knoll]

You mean bond stories? Yeah I skip those too

[rich quail]

Real talk some of the Nikke stories made me legit cry like baby

[pastel narwhal]

i think i only followed jackal story, cause she is best girl

[worthy knoll]

Do their bond stories touch their pasts? Like when before they became nikkes?

[pastel narwhal]

hmmm for treasure stories like lap+ and exia there's only a brief summary of what they were before becoming nikke

[rich quail]

Some do
Some are very good at hitting you in the feels
Some are downright depressing
Some are funny (both April Fools’ episodes)

[worthy knoll]

How was Crow's?

[pastel narwhal]

crow is stuck at bond10, i haven't touched her in awhile

[rich quail]

Crow’s was a little thought provoking

[worthy knoll]

Which of those best describe Crow's bond story?

[worthy knoll]

So it was none of those above

[rich quail]

That is probably a little depressing

but not compared to others

[pastel narwhal]

i thought it was going to be some kind of joker wannabe story

[worthy knoll]

Ahh so it's more depressing and not aggravating? 🤔

[rich quail]

Basically the best stories are OverZone, the XAnne story, and the Nero story (not the bond stories, the event stories)

[worthy knoll]

Eh, Red Ash not included on those best stories?

[rich quail]

Yeah more like, it’s totally worth watching it, but you feel like you don’t have a rosy outlook on the Nikke world

Like u feel bad about what that world goes through

Red Ash is very good

[pastel narwhal]

oh yeah, i did read xanne, vesti and even admi (funny enough, has something to do with borgar)

[rich quail]

Top 5 but for me not Top 3

[rich quail]

chizborgars…

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

lemme rewind trony bond story, i wanna know how she became feet queen

[rich quail]

u can skip that story

It makes u feel dirty

[robust blaze]

thanks a lot

[robust blaze]

what did you mean by Rei.A? moreso the .A part

[misty finch]

Would Blanc be better than Mari for this team? Rei.A should get Blanc imdom

[misty finch]

Rei.A is the collab Rei

[robust blaze]

okay that’s what i figured, was just confusrd by .A

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[rich quail]

Watching her animation makes my skin crawl

[pastel narwhal]

im just disappointed her mecha-table is not as large in battlefield

[glad meteor]

No bully

[rich quail]

The table should be as big as Talos

[thorn pagoda]

it's one of those days where you spend gems against the pvp whale
(he's already spent 500 today). no point wasting gems from C1 to C3

[rich quail]

Yeah I don’t understand that at all

Unless the dude’s ego is so fragile

[robust blaze]

Would I ever sub in Bay? or is she no good anymore

[umbral crown]

Rei the eva unit

[pastel narwhal]

every whale's ego is fragile

[umbral crown]

She is kind of just to try something new

[glad meteor]

Some people don’t care, they’ll just gem to remain

[thorn pagoda]

my theory is that people who live a disappointing irl life tend to play like this in videogames

[rich quail]

They also want to make u gem

cuz misery loves company

[thorn pagoda]

to compensate

[glad meteor]

sounds like me

[odd osprey]

asian countries are harsh country

high pressure etc.

[glad meteor]

But i don’t gem because I broke

[thorn pagoda]

yeah they work you to death and you don't have much freedom so people tend to escape into alternate realities inside videogames

[rich quail]

me neither

[glad meteor]

Need pulls, not getting characters hurts much more than being in a shiz rank

[pastel narwhal]

that's why c2 is more strategic, less of a target from big egos i've seen too many c1->c3 swaps with popcorn in hand

[rich quail]

I better do solo raid before I forget

[robust blaze]

last question, should i use the scarlet team for rookie arena?

[pastel narwhal]

trony bond story done, ehh she's just like vesti, just want friend, exploding puppies and Laplace villain

[rich quail]

Daddy needs to feed his impoverished rl kids

[pastel narwhal]

he just likes to watch the world burn at c1

[thorn pagoda]

i shouldn't have taken the bait and won against him last month

[misty finch]

Thoughts on Mari vs Blanc as B2 buffer?

[glad meteor]

Blanc is stronger because of indom

[umbral crown]

yeah, for rookie you can be even more creative

if you feel that 3rd team is not working well you canalways ask again to ajust it

[umbral crown]

i still do not have her, waiting for keripo s results

[glad meteor]

A nikke that can steal buffs soon

[pastel narwhal]

prydwen already has an S review but no mention of how well she nukes at arena

[umbral crown]

oh

we just need to wait then

zixk said something about low burst gen

[glad meteor]

I saw a strong nuke against emilia, there’s potential to kill her with red hood buffer depending on investments. And if they’re running jackal or not

If no jackal she could be cooked I think

Ele lines on mari

[pastel narwhal]

they only cooked one team

[thorn pagoda]

deep down, we all know it doesn't matter if we're C1 or C3, we're still going to get 3000 gems if we stay there lol
it's probably an ego thing as to why many want to stay in 1st
plus you get a little more protection the higher you go

[umbral crown]

but ubt

its about sending a message

[glad meteor]

I can’t send messages, I can’t afford envelopes and the ink to write the message

[thorn pagoda]

i'll be at 0 gems if i keep this up with the chinese whale hah 🥶

[umbral crown]

go go, become a worthy rival he wishes you to be

[glacial lion]

Why they atk me daily

[thorn pagoda]

perhaps it's my way of saying goodbye since we only have 5 days left. we should all spend 1000 gems on our rivals on the last day

gonna miss my Chinese rival when he disappears

[pastel narwhal]

they have ants in their pants

[umbral crown]

then you realize he will be with you again for the next 3months

[glacial lion]

he was #5, so ig its reasonable when he atk me daily (#2), but now he is #4 he still atk me...

[pastel narwhal]

probably pressure from below or top brass is unreachable

[umbral crown]

a crush on you

[thorn pagoda]

it would be so nice if everybody joined this discord server and we could talk to everyone in our pvp servers
at least implement a chat feature; not sure why they got rid of it

[umbral crown]

because they might see people doing alliances to not attack each other

and then nobody will have fun

[pastel narwhal]

i was expecting chaos

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

alliance vs. alliance is super fun actually

[umbral crown]

i would say: me vs the world

[thorn pagoda]

probably
i'd be using it to say hi to all the whales and try to make friends

[glacial lion]

no, not chaos at all... it just bully lonesome guy

[umbral crown]

its about sending a message

[copper creek]

i remember the 2 vs. 6 days

[umbral crown]

then boom: rosy attacked

[copper creek]

i remember getting hit 50 times in 3 days lmao

[umbral crown]

owo

Thats a lot

[copper creek]

back in january reshuffle lmao

that was the best fun - alliance vs. alliance

[pastel narwhal]

my noise finally getting an sr doll tomorrow

[glad meteor]

They said they’re going to implement the chat feature I think

In game

[copper creek]

no, they are not

they removed the button already

[glad meteor]

[thorn pagoda]

they were going to
but then they removed it because it was unused

which is a shame

[glad meteor]

Not coming soon I guess

Or ever

Haha

[pastel narwhal]

right lol

[thorn pagoda]

this artwork of Moran 🥵

[pastel narwhal]

that's how you make serial killers

[umbral crown]

Im like giving it to Ssakura or Scarlet

[glad meteor]

The solo raid malding will begin

[frigid leaf]

#1136879383995494490

[pastel narwhal]

not sure if i want to, frame3 is kinda meh

[rich quail]

I will choose mg SR doll

My Rosie maxed out her R doll

[glad meteor]

Rosanna treasure soon, burst target 5 nikkes

[wise horizon]

Any advice for this? @copper creek

[glacial lion]

jackal out, add crown pos5

[copper creek]

jackal -> crown
or just blanc/emi/rh/biscuit/centi

[odd kraken]

chat chat
thoughts?

[gaunt cypress]

• blanc / emilia / biscuit / RH / jakal
• noah / biscuit / emilia / RH / MW
• blanc / emilia / biscuit / rapuzel / crown
• noah / emilia / RH / jakal / MW
• blanc / bscuit / emilia / MW / rapunzel
• moran / jakal / bscuit / sanis / MW

[odd kraken]

[pastel narwhal]

36%

[odd kraken]

is there any chara here that counters scarlet?

scarlet ult didnt land...

[umbral crown]

Bueno mi socio, not gonna work

[umbral crown]

Depends the nikkes you have

[odd kraken]

hyper scarlet

scarlet managed to burst, but the attack didnt register

[umbral crown]

Try ajusting to : Scarlet/Viper/Red Hood/Zwei/Anis

[odd kraken]

scarlet on 1?

she wont die would she?

unless you wanna hyper rh instead

[umbral crown]

Thing is you need RH as Burst 1

[odd kraken]

hmm that works yeah

right i forgor about rh burst 1

[pastel narwhal]

i don't see anything that would block there , maybe marcianna applied her heal when scarlet struck at the same time ? you might want to record video for us to see

[odd kraken]

i killed them

scarlet nuke might not hit hard enough without rh buff

[copper creek]

it didnt get blocked
your cp deficit is just so absurd that you have an absurd penalty applied to u

[umbral crown]

Socio is doing his watashi gamabarimasu

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

Waos

[rich quail]

Speaking of watashi ganbarimasu…

My iPhone 12 crashed after I just beat sr for the 3rd time

My phone really rides that strugglebus when Massive Object does any of its attacks

[pastel narwhal]

because it's massive

[wild patio]

@wise horizon I make you up for yesterday

Bring it on MF!

I got 10 more attempts

[umbral crown]

if its was jacky again i would really do something to send you to D4

[glad meteor]

Ein doesn’t full nuke need to invest more

[wise horizon]

Still hurts

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/im-sorry-sorry-sorry-not-sorry-keanu-reeves-cheers-gif-16960757

gif not working

[wise horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/betrayal-cute-kitten-gif-12959217

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

you have no perms to send it yet

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

boda incident

[wild patio]

lets see if he dares to spend more attempts or be a good boy at c6

[umbral crown]

lets sponsor HSY

[keen vapor]

Shift Up definitively cooked this time

[umbral crown]

bro not changing his defenses even when losing this way

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

This is their best boss so far

[wild patio]

If I do so my atk team would be leaked

cuz I used the same team for both before

[umbral crown]

we know your attack

[fading ermine]

[umbral crown]

nani

[wild patio]

I made some adjustments yesterday

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

moving P5 to P4

[wild patio]

The team that I share yesterday is only my def team

[umbral crown]

which are the same for attack

do not do that but if it works for you then we good

[wild patio]

Now is the battle of determination How much you willing to go for pvp

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

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[umbral crown]

boi will do 10 attacks more

then you at 0 gems will lose

[wild patio]

Bring it on!

[umbral crown]

you have 9 left

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

[wild patio]

boi giving up

[pastel narwhal]

wait til 3:59

[gaunt cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-so-funny-gif-27253208

[wild patio]

embed fail

[thorn pagoda]

when this happens, make a joke out of it and laugh
i don't hold pvp grudges anymore. no point getting mad at a game tbh

in my head I imagine my rival & I saying
fu­ck you
win
fu­ck you
lose
fu­ck you
win
and the cycle goes on

[wild patio]

its a cruel world we are living on

demn marciana gacha skin pfp

[thorn pagoda]

stock up on some arena chips so it doesn't feel like you're wasting gems in the future

[gaunt cypress]

mostly SEA player that doing this kind of revenge

[wild patio]

me

[royal hemlock]

I want to put summer anis there which one should i change?

[pastel narwhal]

it's their farewell gift before reshuffle

[wild patio]

Alice

[umbral crown]

[royal hemlock]

alice? ok then

[gaunt cypress]

rarely seen western player doing that thing

[umbral crown]

Change alice

[trail lava]

I've started with pvp and I don't understand placements. Can this be improved?

[gaunt cypress]

including me lol

[royal hemlock]

okii

[umbral crown]

make sure S.Anis is 7/7/9 or 10/10/9

[glad meteor]

Is interesting to see mg shoot, shows target when target skip happens

[pastel narwhal]

i use lap+ lazer pointer

[wild patio]

Me 10/10/10 ing, 5/5/5/5 OL and mlb S anis

Rip 600 mileage tickets

[umbral crown]

but doll?

[umbral crown]

[wild patio]

SR phase 5

[gaunt cypress]

I haven't used sanis for a long time,

[wild patio]

shes so sexy I couldnt resist to mlb her and put on my in game profile

[gaunt cypress]

sanis always get hard counter by scarlet its like puting free win on deff team

[glad meteor]

Burst 10 🐳

Had to reset, i can’t afford that

[rich quail]

Very impressive

[jolly maple]

bricc sanis can't blanc comp

[glacial lion]

Just use sr doll 15 for dmg reduce

[visual brook]

any recomendations for defense teams for both arenas?

[glad meteor]

Pretty low sync, maybe maiden nuke better?

[umbral crown]

could you re send your nikkes but in horizontal mode for an easier look to give you teams,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only

[granite anchor]

I lost this because they target skipped straight to poli
how do i fix that?

[glad meteor]

Looks like scar s2 and naga skipped to poli

[granite anchor]

it seemed like everyone just went straight for her lol, i wasn't paying attention heavily or recording though

she died like super quick

[worthy knoll]

Poli prolly died of Scar S2

Only one who could hit her is Naga

So it is Scar S2 who prolly did most of the damage

[glad meteor]

Poli is elemental weak too

[granite anchor]

maybe their scarlet is super cracked, i've usually got away with using poli there. i'll switch to different buffer

[glad meteor]

Mari time

[keen vapor]

-# He's locked from login in bc of 180 MB patch

[umbral crown]

Noticed that when i woke up this mornin doing the daily morning checks on SP

[granite anchor]

yeah thats what i did and won

mari just barely kept me in deficit because she still no OLs

[umbral crown]

mari shinning

[glad meteor]

[pastel narwhal]

more rocks more rocks

[keen vapor]

At least I didn't missed dailie- oh right, the third part of story mode

Now I'm gonna lose 30 boxes :deadge: it's dorover

[glad meteor]

My noah has more attack than rapunzel

[keen vapor]

My Blanc used to

[blissful willow]

I danced around the idea of countering Bay

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275772320849592370/1281001265660432464/Recording_2024-09-04_172024.mp4?ex=66da20e5&is=66d8cf65&hm=9590e2700dcb24f497eadcbb87f9bc750f14bbba19135999cb815b1e590964fd&

In same speeds, you can't counter Bay

But in slower speeds, you can, just make sure you aren't dead before you burst

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275772320849592370/1281013929539141662/Recording_2024-09-04_180922.mp4?ex=66da2cb0&is=66d8db30&hm=9e05dc8e5bd5f8c53768b19ce5df1a3146dc50c0cde3a0154489171561858d08&

Overall, you need to either be very fast Vs the opponent team,

Or if you're up against Bay, survive for at least .5rl more

[umbral crown]

my Ssakura is ready to give me rocks

[pastel narwhal]

did anyone do tests as a rosanna finisher?

[blissful willow]

Mari is not a meta unit
But she's definitely a usable one

[blissful willow]

Yeah, she can help Rosanna kill confirm

[pastel narwhal]

probably the major reason i will need her

[blissful willow]

But well
The teambuild is hard, for example

Viper Mari B3 Rosanna Centi

Viper needs to die otherwise you're dead

[umbral crown]

nice, i can tix her

[blissful willow]

I'm just saying that
She's just another nikke that needs jackal to help her team build up speed

It's very very hard to realistically use her in champs especially

[umbral crown]

[blissful willow]

Cuz otherwise, Mari struggles

B3 Mari Rosanna centi jack
Feels good, but is way too expensive bro

[pastel narwhal]

im attacking slow blanc invuln types, just enough to kill both b3 and their rh

[umbral crown]

aoi, remind me to tix her later

[glad meteor]

Maiden mari pepper mpriv bsoda?

[umbral crown]

my rosanna is always with jackal, we good

[blissful willow]

Man I seriously need help with how to use scarlet tbh

[blissful willow]

Weird team, easy to counter imo

[pastel narwhal]

do it now

[glad meteor]

[blissful willow]

Scarlet without blanc seems like a terrible idea to me

Scarlet without jackal is an idea I reject

Scar teams are too expensive I feel

[glad meteor]

My teams barely have defensive capabilities for champs, mostly offense

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

my scarlet is without blanc... now is with noah but if mari helps more rosanna then noah can go anyhwere else or just not use her for a while

[blissful willow]

What's the current team for your scarlet

[umbral crown]

Noah/Scarlet/Rosanna/Noir/Jackal

[blissful willow]

[umbral crown]

i sent blanc to Ssakura team

[blissful willow]

Use ein over sakura

[umbral crown]

im einless

[blissful willow]

Damn

[umbral crown]

but still she can do something nice

made Ssakura last night 4/10/9

[blissful willow]

Who is 3rd b3

Emilia or s.anis

[umbral crown]

team is Noise/Blanc/Ssakura/Emilia/Pepper

Moran/Rapunzel/S,Anis/Biscuit/Centi

those are my teams for now

tryingf to go the biscuit way of lifesteal

[coarse lake]

yes they're pretty easy to counter without blanc

honestly most ppl just use a meh scar team and keep the important b2s for the other teams

so xanne + rosa for scar

[blissful willow]

Yeah, either you need Rosanna or blanc

Otherwise I feel like I can't even look towards a scarlet team

But then other teams feel SO MUCH WEAKER

Gosh, we need more utility

In general I don't want to touch Rosanna for now

[coarse lake]

I run a noah biscuit, scar blanc, bay block

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

good enough against noobs

[blissful willow]

Like at least for now
I wanna make 4 teams without Rosanna that work very nicely

[coarse lake]

need better universal b2 options

instead we keep getting mid b3 options

[blissful willow]

It just feels like you probably have to throw in Rosanna to scar jack
Otherwise it'll be pretty rough for you to make other teams

[umbral crown]

and it is

[blissful willow]

Rosanna can't carry other B3s like Blanc can

[umbral crown]

rosanna needs jackal or else she will lose conceal so means less damage

[blissful willow]

Teambuilding is extremely restrictive at the moment

[copper creek]

blanc is just bsuted lol

[glad meteor]

Rosanna p4, 2 attacker more highest attack should be fine to keep conceal. Put non rl/sr in p1

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

rosa is even easier to counter these days since noah buff tbh

[umbral crown]

rosanna must be one of the highest attack

[coarse lake]

a lot of teams can simply be outsped and fully blocked

[glad meteor]

But then she loses conceal to rosanna mirror

[umbral crown]

does not matter as long as you win

[copper creek]

yeah this tbh

[worthy knoll]

Blanc and Noah. Core of pvp teams, coz they are the only one that gives you survivability from death.. Rest, any other B2 is just lacking

[glad meteor]

True, only 1 hit will triggers. Just have that more attack

[umbral crown]

si

[hollow summit]

does rossana needs OL on PvP

or just skill card 7-7-7?

[coarse lake]

instead we keep getting mid b3 nukers patch after patch

[worthy knoll]

Biscuit is also a good B2, but usually acts a supporting unit for Noah and Blanc

[umbral crown]

7/10/10 30% +ATK from OL and SR doll +5

[hollow summit]

dang dont have resources

my tetra attacker in shambles, i dont want attack another boss in AI

[umbral crown]

S.U adds the new one

im still lacking tetra attacker for Ssakura

have some for Ein when she decides to come

[hollow summit]

like i only have 3 sets of tetra

[umbral crown]

[hollow summit]

i have plenty sets attacker for another manufacturer

[umbral crown]

hehe i imagine

[hollow summit]

1 set reserve for viper

rushing her treasure

then i only have 2 sets

[umbral crown]

the doll... its what stopping me right now

SR+5 andmake it +15 is the hard part

[hollow summit]

reset dispatch

[coarse lake]

30% atk is the hardest part imo

[hollow summit]

if you concern about gems income, just limit it max reroll twice/ 3 times a day

[coarse lake]

that's essentially 4 atk lines unless super lucky

[hollow summit]

you usually get 120 gems from dispatch, refresh twice pays 100

so 20 gems is viable

[coarse lake]

if lucky a dispatch reroll partially or fully refunds the gem cost

just don't dispatch any regular ones that aren't core dust or gems until you're done rerolling

[hollow summit]

pick gems first before reroll

today's dispatch

120 - 150 (refresh 3 times)

[blissful willow]

No one technically carries teams as hard as biscuit and blanc can

Stall is true king in PvP and only these 2 units allow for stalls

[hollow summit]

makima is too inferior

[blissful willow]

While I appreciate Noah and Jackal
Don't get me wrong

Biscuit and Blanc are just built difference
And biscuit is just.. uff

Biscuit is too good man

Support structures in current meta are hard

Noise Noah Rapunzel together are strong however

We know how good god comp is after all

That's 3 teams we can make

[hollow summit]

moron biscuit sanis

noah unprotected like... ugh

[blissful willow]

Assuming Rosanna can possibly carry a team 4

Team 5 is impossible to make

Maybe Noise Bay Rapunzel is the play

Noah biscuit
Blanc jackal
Noise Bay Rapunzel

And then the last 2 teams are purely an offensive mess

[hollow summit]

sg mass

without tove

[blissful willow]

I don't see any combo surviving if it's 3 wins

Like it's gonna be so so so easy if it's 3/5 wins

[hollow summit]

should make defense team undisplay

so you have to guess

or just display highest CP nikke on 1 team

[blissful willow]

What's funny is that I think Noise Bay Rapunzel dies to Alice or redhood

[glad meteor]

I don’t think think Alice can, need buffer

[umbral crown]

[blissful willow]

For now my main problem isn't what b3 I'll use
It's what support structure I'm making

[glad meteor]

I’m bricked regardless, no scar

[coarse lake]

if cindy is omni burst then she prob can't help much either

unless you want to have her omni burst in pvp, or at least b1+b2

[worthy knoll]

I'd say it still Noah Blanc are the core. While Biscuit is just a support unit

Noah

• give 3s invul to all units
• Can taunt
• An RL
• A defender

Blanc

• Give 10s indom
• Debuff enemy with damage taken debuff
• Is a defender

I rank those 2 more coz they can cheat death with their burst. While Blanc is more solo carry type, Noah is more a team oriented type. It is indom and teamwide invul that makes them good.

Now Biscuit I know is good too but in a way to ensure the defenders don't die pre burst or last longer post burst. In a way I see her more as something that improves Noah and Blanc more given both are defenders. But the main core is still on Noah or Blanc burst, Biscuit is a supporting unit that ensures they remain alive to be able to burst or also taunt more in Noah's case.

Like you can do a lot of things if you have a Noah and Blanc. But if you don't have both and just have Biscuit, its kinda lacking. 🤔

[coarse lake]

if you only want her to b2 then you need a b1 before her, and that's difficult

noah benefits a lot from biscuit, blanc doesn't really need biscuit

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, well Biscuit is more of like, I want my defender to last longer

[hollow summit]

i think biscuit just put with moron and sanis

[glad meteor]

Also nulls sbs, without biscuit, would need decent investment to counter, aside from sakura fire

[hollow summit]

biscuit can burst to heal sanis

and amplify the damage

[coarse lake]

problem is that moran biscuit sanis is very easy for scar jack to beat

on defense it's not really that strong of a comp against others

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

but if other sanis variants lose to scar jack anyway, then yeah it lets you use noah blanc elsewhere

[worthy knoll]

Well just saying, you will have more flexibility if you have Noah and Blanc even without Biscu.. while just having Biscu and not Noah and Blanc.. it is too limiting

[coarse lake]

blanc > noah > biscuit for me

mostly factoring in solo performance

[hollow summit]

yeah sg feeding

[worthy knoll]

Noah > Blanc > Biscuit in my case

[hollow summit]

single target nuke is scary to noah

and we have glorified version named SBS

[worthy knoll]

Blanc is kinda a gamble, needs jackal to ensure correct indom.. else might have problems of having indom in the wrong place.. and her not being an RL, makes her vulnerable more to Scarlet S2.. while Noah you don't need to mind any of those things

[coarse lake]

yeah she has her issues, but as solo she counters a lot more, solo noah you just gotta use sustain dps

[worthy knoll]

If you need to block, just use Noah, all you need is to go fast. And it is your whole team that is alive compared to Blanc that only your main solo dps alive.

And if that solo dps lack damage, you have no more backups

Well it is like an all or nothing gamble

Though if SU give a decent high % life stealing unit and is B1, that could prolly go well with Blanc 🤔

Well something a bit higher than Milk and can prolly also buff is good

[hollow summit]

coping milk treasure

[worthy knoll]

I smell Milk treasure

[hollow summit]

or they made it but put MG/smg

[glacial lion]

blanc should be weakest though... she is high prio target in most team cuz weapon type

[coarse lake]

blanc just needs rapu or jackal to work even if she's too squishy to solo tank, biscuit has like no use case outside of sanis, and that's not even that strong

[hollow summit]

well, blanc, noah, biscuit are good

but my suggestion is

build your electric team

as they are goated in PvE and PvP

Scarlet, SAnis, Ein

[worthy knoll]

Well attack wise, its up to your discerning eye how to make Blanc survive. And like Eon said, you can even put Rapu for her.. The gist why Blanc is better than Biscu is is she can give 10s of cheating death buff to a unit that is high damaging. While Biscu is just to a defender that hits like a wet noodle.. only prolly defender that hits hard is 2B and Kilo. But both is just on their nuke and not on their normal atks, and both have weaknesses like can be dispelled or need to have their shield up.

Wonder when will get a Defender unit that is like SAnis in terms of damage output

[glad meteor]

Sbs s1 caught me off guard,

[worthy knoll]

Enemy Noise pro I framer

[glad meteor]

Fight 1

Pretty sure they have cs on mari too lol

[brazen geyser]

Currently I stay in the top4~10 in SP with these teams (I'm F2P and above me they are spenders), the third one works more like cannon fodder.
What changes do you suggest? with the aim of making the 3 teams strong.
You can assume that I have all the nikkes.

[pastel narwhal]

you might want to post a screenshot of your roster, sorted by power, some cook might pass by

[umbral crown]

but we can not assume the ones you invest

[brazen geyser]

You can assume that I have enough resources to invest in any nikke

[pastel narwhal]

[copper creek]

you dont
it can get pretty crazy

[brazen geyser]

I have enough saved up to set any nikke to 10/10/10 with all their OL

I am missing a few nikkes, which I consider to be the least useful, but I aim to get them in the future.
The only ones I didn't get were the ones from the Chainsawman collaboration

[polar bolt]

Any recommendations vs this setup up?

This is what I'm working with

[pseudo arch]

SP arena- can i replace jackal with noir here? or who can I replace her with?

[umbral crown]

[fading ermine]

Is there any reasonable lineup?
atk and def 3vs3

I just want to optimize

[glad meteor]

SBS P1 can be taunted by noah at the beginning of the fight as soon as she get’s hit by noah, if opponent running noah biscuit she’ll do 0 damage

[pseudo arch]

in what position is better then?

[copper creek]

what is the context here, is this an atk or def or what

[glad meteor]

It doesn’t really matter since as soon as noah burst she’ll be taunted by noah, that’s why most people use sanis instead of sbs in stall teams.

P4 is best postion
Noise/noah/anis/sbs/jackal

[fading ermine]