#pvp-arena
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oof
for your account level I would focus on building Alice, S Anis as your main DPS for PVE and they have use in PVP
Liter and DKW are gonna be your B1 in PvE as well
I'll try and do that, thanks
what about DKW/Naga/S Anis/Rapu/Jackal?
- try to get mari bc you need more b2 buffer options & she’ll be way better than poli & naga in pvp
I cant find mari in nikkepedia
she’s both nuker & buffer so worth getting
Tia/DKW/Naga/Privaty/Mariciana
mari? the collab unit?
whoops meant marciana
Mariciana 😭
hmm still cp deficit. Their Alice is padding their cp... What if you throw all your top 5 in there but with DKW and Naga
replace laplace and priv with DKW and Naga and lets see the CP
alright. It might work lol DKW/Naga/S Anis/Alice/Asuka
I could upgrade asuka's gear since she has the highest level and I use her quite frequently
alright gonna test it out
rip
hmm
i'm guessing RH ended up full bursting and your team also couldnt handle the constant dmg from s sakura
I didnt watch the replay but that would be most likely why
you need some B2 buffers
rosanna?
how about summer rosanna?
wait no, there's no part in pvp
and I dont have enough to upgrade her burst
guess I'll just wait for mari or get a lucky crown pull
wtfman😭
blanc, biscuit for sanis, mari
xanne in december
i think you would get hit by CP diff outside that team.
yea youre right
I'll add them to the wish list
That’s why I haven’t used any vouchers, gems or gold tickets yet
yh I’ll be using her in my ros scar team until xanne in dec 
Same
No XAnne on my acct either

@iron vortex Mariciana probably has the most util as a B2 in current roster for PvP as a healer. Poli has a small ATK buff and defense skill but is copium in grand scheme of PvP. Both would probably improve your roster at 4-4-4 skills but up to you how to manage your economy
whats your stash at?
no xmas units in mine 
I thought of investing on marciana for 1-1-3 so I'll consider it, thanks
I would not advise wasting your B2 slot on Marciana
There's a lot of really really good B2s
10,577 gems
206 gold tix
2 Advanced Vouchers
And just as good B1 healers
B2 is usually the contested slot for PvP
Too many good options to pick from, each with lots of utility
Healing also currently isn't all that useful in PvP unless you can extreme heal stall. Offense is still the name of the game, just like in PvE
@spiral onyx Speaking of B2s…
What do you know about Blanc sometimes getting focused down during a match?
It’s happened to me on occasion, and I was wondering if it was related to positioning, using rl units, or having Emi/SBS/Scarley at p1
Blanc is an AR
Target skipping happens
As an AR, there's always a good chance she will end up being the final target
Charge classes (RL and SR) allow for target skipping by temporarily removing themselves as targets
SG, AR, SMG, MG are continual fire units (until they actually need to reload) so if there's a RL/SR in front of them, there's a decent chance the target will switch over to them
i was talking about their current roster, I wouldn't advise using marciana normally 
That's why even if you put Noah in P1 and Noise in P2, your P3 unit will still sometimes get targeted
Gotcha 
I’ve had Blanc target at p4 before
The only solution is to try to build your team so there's a non charge unit at P1 to prevent target skipping
Moran?
Remember, target skipping exposes your vulnerable units as well as let's your opponents' RL build up more burst gen
A 3RL team with Emilia can become a 1RL team if Emilia target skips to P3 somehow 
I've never seen it, but it could in theory happen
So that’s why in one instance, I had Emi at p1, Blanc p2… Blanc got obliterated
The very next match I replaced Emi for Scarlet at p1, focus went to p1 as normal
I have a problem with my Blanc Emi comps where Emi gets targeted at the beginning of rounds. Is this why my Emi's being targeted?
I have noticed 3 rl units with Blanc does increase the likelihood of Blanc focus
And @spiral onyx I definitely witnessed opponent getting sooo much burst gen off my Blanc at p2 or p4

Because opp rl or sg hitting Blanc and surrounding allies
Thank you @spiral onyx
You are da bessssssss

We documented all of this previously in the Prydwen guides lol
clearly you guys dont read
Zixk and I and others spent a good week proofreading that sht before Snake published it to make sure it had everything we knew at the time included 
i get target skipped even in p4 though 
If there was a section labeled:
“WHY MY BLANC KEEP GETTING SHOT AT”
I woulda read it

It has to be in all caps tho
I self-diagnosed myself to be ignorant unless you put stuff in big letters

good night
gn time to eep too
Noise/Rapunzel/S.Anis/Biscuit/Centi
Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Laplace+/Drake
Noah/Scarlet/Liter/Noir/Jackal
@umbral crown this sp def comp, my t3 liter replaces to bsoda for burst gen is that ok ? Since jackal b1 will burst
Didn't work out by using Scarlet 
I've actually learned the targeting mechanics of pvp in nikke.gg before so hence why I got the jist of why it happens
atleast you got a clear answer

Not me 
Because you IGNORANT, Echo
U don’t ask questions
U lie there and u take it
Can't get past 14-12 in hard without levelling stuff :(
5 chapters of hard and 150 floors of generic tribe take all friggen day lol
any rei pvp tests yet? especially to see whether her burst buff is active for her nuke
Nah he meant already he already place a T1 non RL/SR unit named Scarlet. And it still skip to Blanc.
#pvp-arena message
Well for short, you can only 100% prevent target skipping on T1. Or prolly at least the first battle you did. Then succeeding team battles, just suck it up that skipping or even residual can happen. So just make it a team that is as quick as them even if the opposing team sped up than expected, either that or just make it a team that can tank it long even if they burst first 
Yeah I watched it at least 5 times already 
Thanks a lot
how's rei in pvp? she's MG tho so i'm surprise she's good
My MPrivaty with +25% atk OL lines
This is the team I'm using in Rookie Arena (both atk and defense since SAnis is my strongest nikke), I'm starting to lose against this player too now, should I remove MPriv?
what can be changed?
My Rei with a single +11% atk OL line
Lvl 763
i think a blanc + biscuit can win this, or if u have noah it should work, i prob remove mpriv since she's feeding jackal too
So I should remove MPriv and add Noah or Blanc?

what a disappointment. think i'll sit the evangelion event out and save the gems
it's not often we get an abnormal event. got so much abnormal gear just sitting there not being used
Is she worth using with her low burst gen though
If she can get away with 1 buffer, it might be fine?
Although she couldn't kill Sanis with 2 buffer there
Could use her on offense. But on defense. She gets cooked by scar s2

The SG nukers have the same issue, but at least they have good gen
that's my 2 cent, since both alice and sbs are mostly ST orientated, biscuit + blanc with the right position should tank her dmg
i'm holding out on pulling Rei cause her kit felt so meh
Oh okay thx, in what position should I place them in atk?
blanc, biscuit, sanis, noise, jackal imo
or maybe sanis on the left? @coarse lake maybe can help?
Do you have dps that aren't SG
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Assuming you have to use Sanis, ig your best option is Blanc/Sanis/Biscuit/Centi/Jackal
Centi slot is flexible, as long as it's not sg or mg or taunter
Want Blanc and Sanis in p1/p2 so they get taunted by Noah asap and don't feed too much
If you don't have Blanc, replace her with Noah or Moran

So gonna need to do more testing once I max out my Rei, but tentatively it looks like my old math is right. Rei is an AoE nuker with a 990.2% multiplier (almost MPrivaty) but with a self +48.02% atk dmg and +25.03% atk buff, meaning she only needs one more buffer to be able to 1-shot AoE nuke.
Rei + Mari + RH
(990.2*(1+0.2503+0.7755)*(1+0.4802+0.4099))+(639.36*(1+0.7755))=4,926
Talk about overkill lmao
Just Rei + Mari actually is enough
(990.2*(1+0.2503)*(1+0.4802+0.4099))+(639.36)=2,979
Throw in Rosanna for some fun
For reference:
Maiden-XAnne-RH:
457.87*2*(1+0.2666+0.7722+0.7755)=2,577
MPrivaty-XAnne-RH
1066.66*(1+0.7722+0.7755)=2,717
actually, it'll be even more if Mari's atk dmg team buff affects her own nuke
Okay thx
LITERAL TACTICAL NUKE LMAO
23mil dmg... through Moran's dmg reduction buff
For reference, SAnis only has 15mil HP here
they evaporated
dammit, I dont get to see the real damage
how do I beat this comp? I don't have Noise Noah or Centi, their Scarlet one shots me
Damn u cooked
which deals more, MPriv's or Rei's burst?
tentatively A, above MPriv and Maiden but still below Ein
being an MG really really hurts her
How does she fare if against P1 Scarlet unlinked? She is not on P1. Is it possible to survive Scar S2 in 3 RL?
Thats entirely an investment question lol
you can easily test it out. Find your local Scarlet and throw Modernia against it and see what happens lol
Well Rosanna dies
cause Eva lore gives her a shield
but you know, screw lore, Shift Up do what they want
I was thinking can have a defender nuke that can be protected by Biscuit while not affected by simple taunt biscuit or Rosanna 
How is her nuke though if revived by XAnne? How much more than a revived Scarlet by XAnne?
Was thinking maybe can just sacc'ed unlinked her which is susceptible to Scarlet for Ros to burst first then just revived her with XAnne to nuke to finish up since she can self buff
swap her location to somewhere else in the formation
(put her in the middle or the far right if you can)
Will I jump to 2 RL?
Dunno how to read feed charts...
I read 3RL column and read that number and add it to my gen in tier?
It should 99% of the time. What is the 1% for? Chances of SU screwing you up if on SP and it is a non first battle 
Now I'm wondering how my feed will effect enemy. Maybe I feed him to 2.5 and then blanc gives indom and I lose? 💀
Enemy bullet feed of the same RL time on your chart, take the minimum number. Divide it by 10, remove the decimal, then multiply by 3.55%. whatever value it ends up, add it to your gen of that same RL.. but you don't need to follow it faithfully as it only applies if the units feeding hit your jack linked units. For example if you place a Rosanna on enemy side, it will show high feed value on starting on 2 RL and moreso on upper but actually, your link is gone on the 1 RL time already. So its up to you to imagine, how many times your jack and linked units is hit before link is dispelled then add that to your 2 RL gen or whatever gen you think you are almost close to 100%
Oooh I see. Thanks for that detailed info I'll be using it in the future. So in my case it just barely gets to 100 unless I did the math wrong..I feel like it's too risky then if it isn't a guarantee and I just skip this team
bruh I can't find anyone even at 700k cp. How can I beat these guys
E.g. On your pic your 2 RL time bg in % is 98%. On enemy side on that same RL, it shows bullet is 31-37. So 31/10 is around 3 procs of Jackal S1. 3 procs give 3*3.55BG = 10.65% of BG which is already more than enough. As you only actually need just 1 proc of Jackal S1 to get that 98% to 100%.
Now like I said don't just casually trust the bullet feed chart on the calc. For example if your team is a Noah Biscuit SBS RH Jackal. Your link will prolly is on SBS RH. If opponent is a whole AR SMG MG team, assuming they don't target skip, and just focus on Noah, the feed there means nothing as they aren't hitting your linked unit. That is why position matters when using a jackal team, moreso if you want to take advantage of the bg feed.
Oh I misunderstood earlier then. I guess I should be ok then in this setup then
Thanks for all that Merry
Enemy is only getting 7.1% feed from my Scarlet then, correct?
As long as I'm hitting Jackal and SBS...but Blanc is probably not the 2nd highest attack so perhaps I don't even need to calc it
So your worry of "am I feeding enemy Blanc" depends if that blanc is linked. Enemy has 1 attacker 2 supporters 2 defenders. Most of the time, linked units are often Attacker > Supporter > Defender.. so in your scenario its kinda unlikely for Blanc to be Jackal linked. If they are not link, your non RL units are not feeding the enemy, prolly only your RLs hitting Blanc and SBS is giving feed of 1 bullet per shot since they are hitting SBS. Ofc I'm not saying its guaranteed, there are some outliers where they go 4 ATK lines OL on their defenders. Its very rare but yeah there are weirdos out there that does that
Yes I'm going to assume Jackal link is likely on the Biscuit or Rapu along with SBS.
I'm pretty sure some of my defenders have numerous attack lines but that's just what the game gave me when I OL them 
Yup, you got that right 👍
Time for bed... Levelled up my pvp knowledge on this day lol

Thanks again
Yeah, sounds fine

@umbral crown Im bored of my rival. I basically memorized all his comp and he did the same as mine
Most of my rosters are pve

He must have a sheet with all comps 
I have saved all his def comp, hes just recycling it
And he did the same to me

Here’s some damage for you @spiral onyx @worn field @coarse lake @worthy knoll
Second highest burst rating = Rei
she has high burst? or was that only bec. she requires only 1 buffer?
is this translation correct?
The first column is with no ol mods
2nd column is with ol mods
3rd is critical
4th is 1 buffer with ol mods
5th is 4th + crit
numbers are correct

Rosy did u get Rei.A yet?
Whaling
0 eva units so far
same
Im only left with 200 goldies, do not know what to do
Im tentative tixing rei but will wait a bit more to see if i can get mari when they release her, both units looks really strong for pvp
Mari could be Rosy partner in crime 
I mean… yeah it’s enticing by Rei’s burst alone
Soon to be No Name
Bro back on business

finally caught up on my peeveepee investments. Got 0 rei but 1 scar, 1 noah and 1 jackal
I didn't want to post my results awhile ago cause the scarletless guy was around xP
funny thing, my alt also got a scar... it's as if my entire account has a seed or something
got my rosy 45.15% atk too 
Im still trying to get anothet ATK line for 44%
always 0 rocks, everytiem. I get some and use immediately 
I am saving mine because I’m close to OLing a lot of gears for Naga, Crown, Jackal
Since I have Core + 5 Jackal, one gear conversion made her jump like 7000 cp

brutal 
Okay wait
Yeah
There’s a huge typhoon coming through Japan rn
So if u don’t see me here and it’s been over 24 hours, call the Gundam force or the police

@worn field Hi, Zixk, sorry for taking ur time, but can u check dm when u have time
Snake does not want Gatrix to be our tiebreaker.
i've seen, stay safe brotha, kraken in vicinity 
Avenge my death

i'll farm it more in revenge 
But if you’re too busy just remember me or something
I will give u Quadruple Rewards on Kraken
BUT ONLY for 1 weekend
alright thanks, will try it out 🙏
Sorry for not display all nikke i have @worn field
is there anything i need to change?
If not, sorry for bothering you
That's the thing, I can't
Moving her anywhere else will affect burst rotation
(Scarlet/Blanc/RH/Centi/Jackal)
what r the strongest 3 teams i can use as defence in special arena with this lineup?
Whale core dust, you're too low synchro for an account that has Makima
time to put blanc in p1

It's true :pepeh:
Nah, i just don't know how to get core dust so fast like other player
You do you 
Can anyone get me attack team for sp arena?
Im clueless how to make teams for pvp, i still have 6 more slots in sync
atk depends on what you're up against.
please check resources in pinned - alternatively, send screenshots of enemy's 3 def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible
Ok
atm no
Oke
Kilo owner still not 200 level :deadge: not even 160 walled
I mean i dont want to use 10 crystal to reset 😔 plus i kinda need them for extra in events 
Ten
In which hard chapter you are?
**sp - def : **
scarlet/viper/pepper/poli/jackal
blanc/emilia/rh/alice/centi
pepper/noah/s.anis/anis/tia
**min. invest : **
emilia - 4/7/7 (min.)
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal, and emilia if needed.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel
tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
**include these in wishlist: **
missilis - liter (pve)
tetra - biscuit, noise
i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.
thank you so much
also liter has been in my wishlist since i started, she has just been dodging my ass
I barely progress the story, still on ch 12 🗿
So that's why underleveled by 50 levels 
edited to add info on min. invest section (emilia)

Echo u hypocrite

damn it's so far 50 levels
:pepeh: they could be even on level 400 already
YOU could be on level 400
Nuh huh
looks like i have to spend the whole day grinding the campaign
If u ever learned to open core dust boxes
Instead of treating them like the Nikke special event trinkets that give u random items
@keen vapor
I'm 265 synchro :pepeh:
There's no way your synchro lower than me
You'll be fine, you'll be autoing it
I started on first anniversary :pepeh:
he's much newer player than u lol
Understandable
So that's not banned word 
I think so 😂
Munch knows about banned words 
It's fine, if it was it will auto delete your message by a bot
Oh your right
If you’re special, you even get timed out
Like when I spelled commander wrong yesterday

Besides bosses
It makes core dust over time, because it increases outpost level
Higher that level, higher the core dust production per hour it will be, even if it doesn't tells you like it does for credits/battle data
The problem is, I don't level up the outpost 😂
sync 339…
Yeah gotta at least clear all of Normal Campaign. Take care of Lost Sector if you can, because harmony cubes are vital for all game modes
You could also run tower
Literally autoable till last chapter/18 hard
Alright thanks for the advice
The bright side is that if you do all that pve grinding, you’re gonna get so many gems and your outpost output will get bigher
I wonder if he's been on an union even
or if he does solo raids
Gems you could use for 2nd anniversary
Or current Collab 
Oh geez, Unions are so important to improve Harmony Cubes
I do solo raid, always get the top 10% dmg i think
And union to 😂
Yeah, I got how many pulls for S.Anis by campaign and tower grinding?
Is that "too"?
Yup, sorry English not my first language
Maybe so much typo
Is fine, neither is mine
I care about orthography 🥸☝️
I hoarded thousands of core dust :deadge:
Really? How? And why?
he building the One Piece 
That is only his 1h cases
I also once stacked about a thousand crates
but couldn't resist the temptation to open it
Bruh
Buying event attempts to farm 1-11 hard in events 
Long story short: I didn't had all the meta units to make it worth it in terms of min maxing
Lacking two important ones :deadge:
Funnily enough, I got Tia 
When I get Naga I'll be able to push till chapter 20 hard 
So u see, Zenn
You don’t deserve to be bullied
My boi Echo, on the other hand

he is not an ordinary human being
No, he is special

Ask him about P1 or P2 Blanc
Bro
What 
Just make her thicc
Dayum
Like I’m gonna do
I can't 
Why not?
echo has no biscuit?
Thankyou ☺️
I still need to do tons of overloads
I have, got her early unlike Noah
When did u start focusing on OLing support/defense units?
I never got noah
I started like a month and a half ago
always exchange tickets
Buying the spare body doesn't gets you the unit 


Ahh i remember, i got it from pilgrim mold
Noah 
My Noah now
I think if player old like me, have that's much right? 🤔
I think you’re doing the right thing
Because eventually people are gonna try to OL+5 all gears for all units, all SR dolls, highest level cubes, etc

I don't know what else to do, so I just upgrade random nikke 😂
Except campaign 😁
Well, if you ever need to ask for advice on pvp and who is worth upgrading, there’s a lot of great players here with great advice
My highest cube levels is 8, not that much
And then there’s Echo
Yup i trust Echo


#InKeripoWeTrust
maybe he likes trolling people, but i'm sure he's a good person, maybe?
🤣
Will do
I will take Nikke seriously from now on
you know, i play nikke just because i like the nikke design
Yeah, I feel the same
And the game is straightforward but fun
I tried a lot of gacha games recently, and a lot of them are either not really interesting to me… or the gameplay isn’t fun
yeah, i was stressed too at the beginning
I’m still on Hard Chap 15
And Normal at Chap 32 Boss
I don't know why, but only this gacha games always gives me ssr only with 10x pull
You can see why I enjoy pvp more
Not like other gacha game
Yeah, this game has some of the most generous pull rates
That's why i like nikke
And the free pulls and gems Shift Up gives us
Yup, some freebies always good to us 🤣
I heard Genshin is so tight with free stuff that if they ever did it, people would panic and think EoS would be coming soon 
I play Genshin, the time I spend does not match the primo I get, and the gacha is hard to get
so i stopped playing genshin
I rather play wuthering wave right now
mostly due to the fact that their producer at the time as ass and stingy with their rewards, now that he's gone, it's seen better days
but otherwise, it took them 4 years so 
I heard they fired the previous CEO?
Cai Haoyu moved on to the technological side for over a year now and no longer has influence since he's officially out of the board
so the current Genshin atm is doing fairly decent but still has long ways to go compared to their newer sister games

I'm amazed at the players who have stayed in the game for 4 years 😂
EXACTLY MY POINT
4 years with a toxic ex, hell nah
Yup, that's crazy fr
Ouh, that's why 🤣
yeah, Hoyoverse aim was the full on monopoly on the market
which has succeeded, but the more glaring fact is that this game managed to stay afloat within the Top 5 lmao
you would be surprised...
Why is that?
i know people ( including myself ) playing another game for about 7 years but if the community is nice or you have fun time flies
this game with good people andhaving active pvp brackets we could play all the time here
generally speaking their community is whack, toxic and would do anything to defend the game despite multiple backlash for QoLs, atleast from what I could gather.
nikke's community is so tame than people thought it would be and its a nice breath of fresh air
Thank u so much 
yeah, i see how crazy the genshin community is
The longest game I've ever played was Seven Knights, about 5 years, and the community was very supportive.
Keripo wrote a
Rei/mari/centi/ros/jackal
I’ll probably try that 
Saving ol fodder for mari, she’s easier to fit in

Hmm, mari is electric. So red hood b1+ ele lines could kill emi if we match burst, and it could/should go through noah/blanc.
Main problem is burst gen 

i lost bruh
but but....
綾波レイ
アリーナの『攻め』で強いです!
最近の実装キャラ同様バーストに
自身のBuffが乗ってます! https://t.co/oKSYPNUp0F
💖 880 🔁 114
Boom
i have no mats 


uwu
i just feel if lucky i will be asukaless

hoping i get mari with the only 3k gems i can get from sp
only 675gems left, had to golden rei 
should still be covered until anniversary, but you never know when a pvp meta unit comes around 
will champion arena be like any esport game?
rei and mari
imagine
rakuen will carry us

opponent's team are way faster than u, especially upgraded laplace
u won't win with liter

are u sure about that? the cp diff and jackal
i lost cuz the deficit
"AND HERE COMES ROSY WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!" 
50 blue doll mats later.

Time to get cooked 


got new units should i switch some units or should the comp stay the same?
How to counter?
Rookie
ok sec
i have almost everything except scar and emilia
whats the best god comp team?
prob just have to go Noah/Biscuit/Sanis/RH/Jackal and pray you kill them fast enough 
noise/dps/rapunzel/jackal/noah
Biscuit is mostly fine without big investment
You'll want to build Noise though
my issue is all my teams p much need alice since she kinda has like 2x or even 3x the power of most my units 
Better start building up other units if you want to roll special arena or have different comps in rookie

ok ill try that
actually thats almost the comp i tried before asking here i just used alice instead of rh
should i still just run it?
alr ill try lol
didnt work :')

That's just how it be sometimes
switch jackal for bsoda might bide sanis time
Depends if she has more attack than sanis on burst
she died before i even burst

well im out of attempts now 
Probably best to invest in the noise comp
Noise still good even after 2 nerfs
that sounds like cp diff
its like 222k vs 242k
20k still pretty big
she probably isn't linked then
well replaced jackal
does biscuit have higher atk
my biscuit is 25k power compared to 50k soda 
btw any sp teams? :D
i mean idm gemming lmao though is liter supposed to be linked?
bcs i think mine would be in that comp
probably power diff again x.x
alr lemme check
190k vs 240k
unbeatable comp 
:^) didnt work, blanc died like instantly and I burst on noah
ill just get a juiced noise ig :^)
Is rei any good for Arena?
people still doing test but you would need to giveher all the love you can
was just wondering if her burst was gonna be like squad wipping like that of say sorta close to drunk scarlet or not.
aye ty
invest on her and you will see the rewards
will do
i think there are better ideas personally
but but...
their might be but not all options are open to everyone
rei is stronk dps, but shes an mg so rip burst gen
its actually harder to make her work lol
Rei is basically like kilo but has a wider range of buffers
im not sure that's right... what's kilo's kit again?
yea i was thinking kilo had something to do with hp - that means they're not really similar at all
they're both buffers, but its very different atk calculation

is it...?
oh right, sp.a
yeah checks out
was thinking about how to make it work in CA
if you can make x.mica work and shes smg. you sure can do it with rei

I was just likening mg, aoe nuke, and same ele
i'd generally caution against likening units like that
a bit too simplistic so it falls apart once u consider that u dont build around either of them the same way at all
Fair
and also, yes this too
First thing that came into mind was kilo though
im not talking about her S2 which i do not know but about their burst gen

exactly...
this is why you dont liken x.mica's burst gen to other MG/SMG/ARs...
it goes to 300% at lv.10 s2...
solo raid comes first before sp.a
as for CA... well... whoever's matched against me will see
the real teams
to leak them 
Champion arena’s going to be rough starting out, not even my sp team is full ol
Need to get gear for noise 
get the rocks
And body for liter naga
gear is faster to get
i need everything 
Also need fodder, rocks can wait
any clue as to what the format is gonna be for CA? is it everyone vs everyone no more arena groups?
in the shop

no idea about it yet
we just now Champ arena is coming
i mean ik whales will always have the edge

Here’s hoping there’s a sync lock
against people of other servers
same
everyone's gear-less 
Global vs NA.. imagine
at least with the other 2 arenas i stay in top 5 lol
Nesso will defend us
2700 gems ez
i cannot believe SpA gets me pushed my campaign
welcome to the club...
11 more stages then im done
release 3 more chaps
can't have your rival have +1 more cores per hr than you 
my rival in rookie with 13 levels more

is the pvp server the same as ur tribe tower rankings server?
nope
no wonder
different one
and the rookie arena server is a different one to the sp one too?
you wanted to bully some people i see
yes
there are people in my sp who are not in my rookie
im hoping next shuffle they add them in rookie to bully them

yea the rookie server im in is just me vs another guy for the #1 spot, we both win on offense and have the same score lol
Pinkpand 
Cook for me 
:Blanc nod:
the pve rankings is just hogged by one whale who has the highest points in everything 
I defeated mine in hard mode ranking :sip frog:
most ppl in my server near the top has around 40-50 nikkes, this guy has 70, 20lv above everybody else, bought 6 costumes, im like dayum, whales really do start buying early
They do
for some reason he still havent done overclock, probably doesnt even know its a mode...
Maybe he's cooking first
Stacking buffs and things like that
We have 2 weeks to do it after all
overclock doesnt daily reset?
lol
is it one of those u gotta pay to reset or smth
No
no, rewards reset every 2 weeks
dont they like rotate and switch ppl around and stuff?
They take inactive people out and active people in
id imagine theyd want to put whales in a single server to have them compete more lol
aight, per your recommendation I have got through a huge chunk of campaign/hard campaign, and pulled the trigger to spend all my core dust n other stuff. I got 20 levels lol
Nice
I'm going to get 20 levels as well when this season ends
you could try:
Moran/Pepper/S.Anis/Biscuit/Anis
Noah/Emilia/Red Hood/Noir/Rapunzel
Scarlet/Blanc/Liter/Centi/Jackal
Moran dies with Pepper in the team after first invincible buff
But not with Rapunzel :nodders:
shi crazy 😭 making a new account mightve been the right choice
:signal cry:
Day 1 
unfortunately yes
i left the game for a year and uh
that didnt turn out great

feel free to do the changes needed
yeah even some extreme leviathaning wouldn’t help after a whole missed year 
💀 lowest person in my special arena is still like double my combat power LMFAO
would if i could 😭
gotta run it back on the alt smh
so this game really punish ppl for not playing lol
it’d cost waaay more I’m afraid 
& it still wouldn’t help much
Whale in my bracket slowed down. He’s not getting levels like he used to
does he have competition
yep, you can like skip 1-2 months at best, 3 max, that gap you still can compensate via buying all cd packs, but any more than this & you’re cooked in sp
lost his credit card? 
maxed out credit card
How to deal with credit card debt
Noah/X/biscuit/sanis/noise
Blanc/emi/sbs/rh/noir
Rei/mari/rapunzel/centi/jackal
? Sp def
wait for mari to be released and tested before

You checked speed of second team?
I’m just seeing her as a better poli
Emi 21
I see
u dont take any on in the first place
10min*
reset*
Hey guys, my current team is winning atm but my Noah is usually with 5% hp left when I burst, and I wonder if there's another team that can perform the same. Enemy team is able to get 2-2.5 RL speed due to their scarlet S2 proccing so often
It is not Scarlet S2 making them faster but RLs skipping Noah, especially if it's jackal skipping her 
The RL burst gen on chart or on the calc is just the minimum burst gen they do when hitting 2 units. It changes if the RLs hit 3 units or up to 5 if its on Emilia's case hitting P3 
Minimum, sometimes I’m lucky to get close to that gen
whiffs 
3 rocks today... okay, im happy with that, thank you game
I made 2rl sanis to fight that comp above 
I'm happy I got Black line Elem damage on my SBS today
Never done SP Arena, only Rookie so far. I kind of understand the idea there, but this ain't workin' in my head. What teams can I make out of my nikkes?
for sp or rookie?
Kraken farming. 
SP.
Kraken forcing me to improve my SBS Crown and Alice 
questions:
what is your emilia skill invest?
is your laplace+?
Haven't spent much on Emilia, been meaning to, but haven't yet. Laplace does have her treasure finished, and her skills are... 5/7/6 i think? I'll check in a second.
@worthy knoll - senpai one of our whales changed teams bc of me AGAIN
thoughts on this?
+ scarbs (upped her to 10/7/10 finally
) blanc worked vs that t3 during my tests before but i don’t have any gems to mald anymore so have to be careful with attempts now 
Oh. woops. one second.
Yup, laplace is 5/7/6
I take it, 4/7/4 for Emilia is alright for this?
**sp - def : **
mpriv/bsoda/marciana/liter/jackal
blanc/emilia/rh/alice/centi
noise/rapunzel/s.anis/bay/tia
**min. invest : **
emilia - 4/7/7 (min.)
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal, and emilia if needed.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel
tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
**include in wishlist : **
elysion - poli
tetra - biscuit
(and pray for pilgrims - noah, sbs)
i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.
Just fight T1?
Though hmm yeah your Noah will unavailable for T2
Awesome, thanks!
Is Scarlet linked on your T3? I kinda remember your Scarlet not linked before
this was funny bc my team was like 472k vs 600 
Oh that is much better then, well as long you can get your SBS to have indom every time that is
finally got her 1 atk line but still need to get it a bit higher than emis 
i wanted to nuke it with gremlin/anis/scar/rh/jackal but my gremlin died before burst 
Though I kinda feel you were able to burst in time in time coz of those non minimum hits from your RLs 
Just use her with Biscuit?
Then again if Centi Jackal skip Noah, it'll prolly be 2 RL 
also that ros is uninvested bc after gremlin died she couldn’t kill my rh so paper tiger 
Hmm? I don't think Ros targetted your RH though
Oh nvm, you meant Noah died pre burst
I was thinking Ros target would be Noah and Scar
I wonder who would win.. a Blanc Scar or a life stealing RH with her own B1 1 v 1
🤔
Hmm then again RH doing quick shots will trigger S2 so I guess RH loses
my moneys on indom scar
Not that i have much 
I assume your T2 is stable so I guess all you can do is improve this team's CP that even if you substitute jackal to ensure SBS indom you won't be heavy penalized 🤔
Though it is kinda tight. Based on the timestamp, your indom is about to end when you won
Or more like it prolly ended already, but Alice just taking too long to full charge 
My money is on her as well 
Unless its a 20 ammo Scar
lol, she may need noise to tank the nuke, maybe the hp increase helps her clutch 
I would like to take a moment to appreciate the cooks in this channel. Last season my def teams went 15 - 0 thanks to the def teams I was recommended for SA 
yeah i was surprised she actually barely survived 
Ty
@worn field do you have any ideas?
Yeah I was also under the impression that I'm getting whiffed
@umbral crown hey, i've gotten a bit more units since i last asked for pvp team advice. can you get me 3 teams? my sanis is now 7/7/9 so doesn't need privaty anymore
and ig if any1 wants to chime in that's not rosy, i will gladly accept the advice
Team won, but I saw Emilia missing her first shot on their noah. Should I get more charging speed or lower it? Currently have 3.45% and 4.92% charging speed
Hey guys, im spent. Any team suggestions to beat these comps?
How should I change this defense team? the other two are performing well, this one is pretty weak.
Should I make one for Alice (she's my second strongest nikke, almost 2x cp than the others)?
Mlb asuka rei 
No, remained targeting Noah
I tried to pull a pilgrim while getting golden mileage tickets... I didn't get a single one but at least I broke the wall
This was how the battle went
Here they are! Only showed the ones I had built.
Oh so there's no way I'll be able to build a team around alice with those leftover nikkes?
Maiden and centi have good burst gen but the other three can't do much atm
Should I use N102 instead of DKW and Blanc instead of SRosanna? With Rei in SSakura's spot
But are your current teams losing a lot? If not wait till.someone breaks your defense
Thank you pvp god it worked

hmm i'll get back to you. season just reset so idk yet. i just saw some new faces today and i'm not beating some of the new guys
Yeah, I got other SSRs but since most aren't that used I didn't show them
She's not in the other teams
Lets just wait, if someone defeat you, feel free to ask again to change it
So I don't need to change her charge speed then?
any team SP Arena recommandation ? (summer anis is 10/10/9)
@worthy knoll not that noah screwing me over i actually almost won 
or more like cursed biscuits s2 screwed me over 
I feel you are just better of using Rosanna against that Noah team
Kill that Rapu, you win

k let’s see now
bruh she didn’t die

& ros got indom too so that screwed me even more 
Needs about about 514k CP
Mmh I'm thinking of something weird but maybe it'll melt you faster coz of the gap 
goddamn 341 boost crawls to me at the pace of a slug 
no?
must’ve been someone else 
How much CP is your Emilia again? Was thinking maybe we can remove her from the sync device then use that same team 
~101k so I’m cooked with that even more 
Well if you are feeling adventurous you can try. Just manually up sync of Emilia to have at least hmm 800k hp 
Was thinking of something like this but feat with Blanc instead of XAnne #pvp-arena message
don’t think so i have only 100 gems left after rei scam & flops today so i need something with higher chances of winning there 
Mmh.. I feel it has a high chance though coz Rapu is guaranteed to die and their gen will be slow coz RLs will be only attacking one unit once Emi dies. But oh well~ 
I, too, am afraid of the Rei scam
I spent wayyyyyy too much on mlb S.Anis
What is Rei scam?
That she exists in her banner 
Ahh.. guess I better not show my pull then 
Are my characters decent enough for sp arena?
Prolly Nikke gacha scam in general 
I had like 210 pulls overall for S.Anis mlb attempt and got 1 dupe

I only got one dupe of SAnis during her rebanner too
Well at least its better than none 
Though I think I pulled only slightly close to 100 🤔
It is don’t get me wrong… but I spent 4-5 grinding on pve modes to get so many gems
Centi doesnt has
Jackal, don't remember
Emilia, less than 21%
I was hoping to at least get 2 dupes
You had the same group as last time, Blanc still getting focused down… so I don’t think it’s coincidence anymore
What cubes are they using? Avoid adjutant if you can
This was before season end
More like increase your Scarlet ammo
The clips u just posted were from last season?
That 2nd vid T1 fight, the one targetting Scarlet shifted to blanc the moment she reloaded 
Yeah I heard about Scarlet 20 ammo
Is it treating her like a sr/rl unit because of her constant reload animations?
After she goes into cover> Target skipped
Will try
Yes, my way to Challenger 9
That wasn't the case against that Emma team :deadge:
Merry found your problem, Echo
How 
Don't need RH if you think its enough with blanc
Skill 2...
Sanis also get’s target skipped at 2.5 rl since she low ammo 
Up Scarlet ammo and place Scarlet accordingly against 2+ sg
U big dummy

Doesn't jackal link enough for Scar skill 2?
#gacha-rolls message @velvet sky 
You went with Scar Blanc RH Centi Jackal right? If its a heavily SG team you can just make it Blanc Centi Scarlet RH Jackal or you can entirely remove RH and just place Scarlet at P4 so even if jackal is skipped, Scarlet there to catch. Just don't place any B3s before Scar though. Or you can also just place a linked SG that is also unskippable too like Scarlet Blanc Centi Noir(Drake) Jackal
I see
Its for your target skipping problem, like in that 2nd vid, whats the point of having jackal linked if the SGs will just skip to Blanc. Block their path with a non RL/SR unit to ensure your getting the feed or counter damage you are expecting
My RH still dupe less :deadge:
What if I had Liter instead of RH? 
Better as long she is linked ofc
Place whoever appropriate linked unit on P4 that can stop SGs path. Like what Keripo said before, place a non RL/SR unit on P1 to ensure they don't pass them.. but that is for against non SG units, if its SG, you block on your P4 so even if they skip P5 jackal, a linked blocker will take it instead.
Good stuff, Merry 
Today
… I learned
Echo prolly did not 
Though I get the pain of placing RH
I wish that they do make a burst priority but doing that will prolly mess up a lot of things 
I can move Red Hood towards Centi place for SG
sounds terrifying
Yeah but in your 2nd vid here, you'll see after the first bullet, the 2SGs went and home in on your Blanc, means your RH and Centi been skipped by them #pvp-arena message
So you really have no choice but to have a linked unit that is not RL/SR blocking P4 at least
Even a Scarlet Blanc Biscuit 2B Jackal can do that safely, more so if its like a 3-5 SG team 
I can do that with Nero but well 2B is the simplest defender that will always be Jackal linked 
I do well as long I'm not heavily cp gapped 
now I’m curious how funny this would go
but burst slower than ros & it’s cooked 
Someone has ever tried Jackal P1 against Rosanna?
Most my comps require god scalter and icbm. Makes it restrictive
I did
How it goes
I want to use the following cores
Noah biscuit
jackal
Rosanna
My rival having anis gives them the edge 
The Moran nero stall team is huge. Frees up noah and biscuit
Nero skills?
Yeah it does
I suppose Moran is maxed
ofc everything is maxed 
Why max Quiry
I get the burst but not the other skills
hes just crazy 😂
Coz I want too, well it's my way to not have any reason like "if only my skill x is level up a bit or such" if I lose. sometimes that atk down and increase of hp to my Nero and Moran can dictate the fight. Well you can say I just didn't want to cut corners
Same reason when Rosanna was released, I OLed her pronto and did a 7/10/10
I just didn't want a reason that if only my burst is max or if only my S2 is this lvl i might have bursted already
So no skill lvl issues, just position and stats I would think of
Like in here, if my Quiry S2 haven't been max, maybe my Nero would have been inactive already before she could have burst
I assume you go up against level diff a lot too, so stats are more relevant even if you have the right counter
Yeah you can see the average sync gap of who I face in this vid alone
an addition to forced 2 pay - forced to max 
damn should’ve transferred vids to phone before deleting them bc now i don’t remember all of what worked & what didn’t against that whale 
but i feel like I’m actually CLOSE to cracking it
just needs some more thinking & testing
I recently deleted pvp vids from before august
My phone storage suddenly got 50GB+ free space

my iPad doesn’t like nikke at all like i start recording smth then press save & it goes I DIDN’T RECORD ANYTHING BISH FREE MY STORAGE 
i actually NEEDED that record bc i make mental notes what flopped or almost won to make adjustments to that later
Would this be a 3 peat? I’m comfortable where I’m at so I don’t want to attack 
thats some blanc issues
T2 will lose, T3 might lose? 🤔
My bsoda has 2 t11 ele lines? Still lose
Well T2 might win as long that Rosanna don't target P1 scarlet else its a lose coz Rosanna will die first
T3 residual? Or too fast
SP Arena help plz
Its 50/50 but yeah coz of plausible residual or bursting faster coz of jackal feed or your Emi hitting P3 making it burst faster

Yh, main problem is securing blanc indom to emilia, any advice for t3?
Last time I had blanc p2, and they target skipped lol, made them 2 rl, could be a different comp
Tbh I lost trust on Emilia team against SAnis team lately coz it was never stable. Sometimes it'll end up with a defender remaining. Unless you have Biscuit on Emilia team to ensure you also have a defender remaining to fight of their remaning defender, it was never a guaranteed win 
go pull rei, you have red hood . its a win
me & that noah now 
I don't get the logic
did you watch keripo s video?
Lol, that’s exactly how I feel. I only trust emilia with noah biscuit if there’s a biscuit on the opposing team
Pretty much need max ammo on emilia to make sure she doesn’t reload before full burst imo
No
#pvp-arena message check also the one above
Never ran an indom sanis lol
Pog
I don't have Anne
Spoiler: You can't
Red Hood HP is cursed to become too low sooner or later if same investment
neither do i but you can use maybe another B2 for it
Yh, right now redhood is doll+gear diff her hp hard, so redhood has like 200k more
Both my RH and Anis have SR doll at level 5 so I bricked that Indom :deadge:



Maybe 2RL Summer Anis Indom works
Good team for sp arena?
pvp gang, i am now semi-retired from seeking c1 in pvp
had an account review with someone in a competitive union









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