New Web UI Megathread

[upbeat zenith]

Fin used /search for_game game_name: pbd13176

Here's the requested channels:
#1411012600078143549
#1411012602884259964

[frail oasis]

In pbd10434 in the new UI the space cannon ui does not show NRA's shot on MR (perhaps because winnu also has shots there)

there's a pds2 on 104, so there should be an NRA shot on MR

[cedar finch]

Can you please add titans' hero ability somewhere (after it was played)?

[agile talon]

@slate rune Cust. Vigilia now shows up, but it does not yet seem to handle Terraform played on it. See game pbd10369

[toxic shard]

Can we get debts displayed in the hand section of the right tab? Feels relevant it being a quick reference to important info, and in particular to my game I wanted an easy way to view all debts owed to me.

Had to swap to old ui for quick info on it or to hover each player

[slate rune]

surprised. it isn't already, do you have a game id?

[open drift]

You can see debts owed by to you in your player area in both new and old UIs

Neither UI display debts owed to by you for now, for that you have to look at each other player area

[slate rune]

Noted although due to how the bot tracks hero usage this is a little harder than you'd think

I'll put it on the list but might take a bit before it's done

[toxic shard]

the "hand" tab

[open drift]

mb, in my previous, I swapped round "owed by" and "owed to", pls disregard it

[minor adder]

The planet the token is on could be an indicator. Probably easy to add a specific player param for you to choose to display it

[toxic shard]

Can you add the commanders owned by mahact under their relic/pn tree?

[slate rune]

yep! have a very elegant solution in the pipeline.

thanks for all the things you're calling out! 🙂

@toxic shard it'll look like this

[toxic shard]

omg that is beautiful!!!!

Thank you so much for your excellent work

your dedication is not overlooked

[slate rune]

you are welcome!

[minor adder]

keyboard shortcut suggestion

• wasd to pan the map around
• q to zoom out
• e to zoom in

[slate rune]

yeah that's fun. +/- can be used for zoom but qe is a good idea

[minor adder]

+/- is my mouse hand!

[slate rune]

yes q/e is better

[minor adder]

both options are fine to keep, I think

[slate rune]

agreed

[minor adder]

my brain is also trying to use PgUp/Down for current <- -> tab switching

Shift T/H/S is a pain to use as well

[slate rune]

yeah happy to rework all the keyboard shortcuts

stick with it for a bit, then give me your thoughts after you've played a game with it 😄 (I mean keep bringing the excellent feedback now I just meant for bigger picture things)

• in particular experiment with hovering over units to glance at player information
• I personally play with the left sidebar hidden because my screen real estate is not huge, keep the right one open most of the time
• use ''h" if I want a bigger map view.
• but if you hover over a 'creuss' unit you'll get creuss information, etc
• so if you experiment with as you're analzying a play just hovering over units to see the player info, i've found that to be the most efficient path

oh and try on map movement when you have a moment. its rather beta but its pretty cool ^^

[slate rune]

what would you prefer? esp if we do WASD

[minor adder]

option to pin the left sidebar (so it operates like the right, map can't slide under it)

[minor adder]

t and h are what I'm trying a naturally - really, just any single key over a key combo is better imo

[slate rune]

strength tab is set to "s" which conflicts with wasd 🙂

[minor adder]

yeah, I'd use the strength tab much less

I'd use the tech tab much more often than tech overlay, for example

[slate rune]

that's hilarious that's about the only one of the custom tabs I use 😄 😄

[minor adder]

h I'm conflicted about

[slate rune]

i mean we can just map strength to a random key, doesn't have to be "s"

• wasd movement

• qe +- zoom

• 1-6 player areas

• t =tech

• h = hand

• y = strength

• l = hide left panel

• r = hide right panel

• ?? = hide both panels

• shift-R = ruler

• shift-T = tech skip rendering mode

• shift-P = pds rendering mode

• shift-Y = planet trait rendering mode

[minor adder]

this one's probably a PITA - when you press space (or click the KB shortcut button) - would be neat to paint the keys overtop of the relevant clickpoint

idk, kb shortcuts are so very subjective - don't take my opinions on these too seriously

[slate rune]

yea that's fun but probably relatively lower priority to some of the other wins 😄

[minor adder]

buttons for jumplinks to the game's discord channels

which would let me just open the browser to start playing, instead of opening discord, navigating to the game's channels (which server is this game on again??)

[slate rune]

brilliant idea!

[zealous quest]

Ghemina flagship "The Lady" does not appear on the new UI (see system 316 in https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd12992/newui, and compare with base UI)

[coral hedge]

Can it be made way more obvious if a relic is exhausted? I think it maybe is slightly shaded but tbh I cant tell. it was very obvous on the old UI

[slate rune]

yea i think the new ui actually doesn't manage that . 🙈 good shout

[timid pecan]

I'm seeing some empty button labels.
On Firefox only though, it looks good on Chrome. Perhaps it's something cached in my browser?

this is a better screenshot possibly

[little iron]

If anyone is having trouble with the new site and web UI images refusing to load after the recent server migration, and you're running a PiHole or other DNS filter (maybe even some custom DNS servers that offer filtering, like Cisco Umbrella, OpenDNS, SafeDNS, and the like), you might need to whitelist bot.asyncti4.com to get it to work again.

[surreal flower]

came here to also say it's a tad misleading that most things (legendary planets, agents, technologies) show when they are exhausted, but relics always have the appearance of "ready", can lead folks to make mistakes.

for instance oh no, my opponent has Circlet of the Void, i have to be vigilant against him flying cruisers through that supernova. oh wait it's already exhausted, i'm safe for this round.

[coral hedge]

hate to break it to you, but the ignoring anomalies ability doesn't exhaust. that's a passive ability that can still be used even if the active ability has been exhausted. same as self assembly routines still gives a tg when a mech dies, even if you used it for your free mech that round already

[surreal flower]

well... as surprised as i am, that is good to know, glad you broke it to me. point still stands , Prophet's Tears, etc

(i'm also going to look for a source for that ruling, unless you can point me to it quickly, seems off topic for this channel, but now I need to know regarding Age of Exploration and exhausting Dark Energy Tap)

https://www.tirules.com/R_exhausted ah, 34.4.a

[upper spindle]

If an ability doesn’t require a card to exhaust, then the card being exhausted no bearing on that ability’s function

(That’s the rule for Age of Exploration with DET as well)

[surreal trout]

Not sure if it's related but for last 2 weeks or so the maps are refusing to load when I'm on mobile network, only loads on wifi

[queen snow]

The map is currently not rendering Free System Compact "raccoon" icons on planets, and it is also not rendering pharadn tomb tokens. You can reference game pbd13691

[queen snow]

It would be nice if the UI showed the planetary defense "grid" for pds and other units that grant planetary shield

or an option for that

[little iron]

Agreed. I nearly missed a PDS too many times since this disappeared.

[tender mantle]

• Monumets are not showing
• can u add a highlight wormholes function? Which make every else kinda grayscale and make the wormholes pop more neon like?

[slate rune]

provide game id with monuments pls

[tender mantle]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd13572/newui

tile 305 for example

[tender mantle]

@slate rune

[minor adder]

Idk about y'all but I can clearly see the arborec monument

[vapid cedar]

could we make the right-hand sidebar remember its width between reloads? thank you

[slate rune]

it should - it just remembers it as a % of the browser width, so if your browser size changes then it might be bigger/smaller.

sorry for the lack of updates all, been uncharacteristically busy but planning on carving out some time coming up here soon to knock a huge number of these bugs and other reported issues out 🫡

[slate rune]

I'll exclude FOW games from the auto-tab load.

[vapid cedar]

seems to be a firefox issue then - same as with the button icons missing, mentioned above

[slate rune]

👍

[slate rune]

hi - I'm fixing this. do you have a game ID I can reference to make sure it's working as intended?

[coral hedge]

you should be able to see it in almost any game. just need a single planet that has a PDS on it. or an arbo mech lol

[slate rune]

Oh sorry I got mixed upb

Yeah I know what you're talking about now

[last estuary]

Minor request, but could if I could put a bump on the known issue of unit decals not showing

But also this new UI is amazing and thank you for all your hard work on it

[slate rune]

I'm working on a new rendering mode that is a bit more like the classic UI and letting people choose -- renders everything on a single pannable page rather than having sidebars. will be curious to hear what people think of it.

[feral bloom]

@slate rune saw that franken icons should have started working. Tried to update my single franken game and the icons disappeared completely🙃

[upbeat zenith]

Kavadera (UTC+5) used /show_game game_name: pbd12314 display_type: map

[feral bloom]

Tried changing the icon, didn't help

[slate rune]

Are they custom emojis or something else?

[last estuary]

❤️ the PDS shields being visible now

[slate rune]

@feral bloom hm. so the custom ones are hosted by discord directly

do you have a firewall or something that might be blocking the load?

on the game you linked to I see the icons without a problem

[light valve]

Map website link no longer works on mobile, I just get this and can't scroll, even in desktop mode

[slate rune]

not the greatest but just tap the map and it should dismiss the modal

[light valve]

Perfect, cheers!

[feral bloom]

Oh.. yeah, discord is blocked in my country and I can't set up a VPN on my PC..

And on the smartphone I can't check the new UI😒

OK, guess, that's just my issue

[slate rune]

🙁

[slate rune]

its a bit hard to solve because we allow any discord emoji to be used which naturally are hosted by discord

[feral bloom]

It works in old UI though🙃

[minor adder]

OldUI, the bot just builds the full image and sends the single file.

[minor adder]

You might be able to use the emoji images in the bot repo instead of the discord url, which should cover most/all uses

[slate rune]

Maybe. It seems like literally any emoji is allowed from discord

[minor adder]

It is, but will fail in some aspects if the bot isn't on a server that can see an emoji

Anytime the bot actually tries to use that emoji (as an actual emoji, outside of drawing the map), it won't work.
And, I believe, errors will tell the user to change it. I forget how far I got with handling those

But they're rare, in any case. It requires a user to have nitro to even set an outside emoji

[slate rune]

well sure but it includes a lot of emojis we don't host in the repo I think

[rocky plover]

very very minor quibble: in Age of Fighters, the unit limits are not reflective of what has been purged
for instance, here I should have lost my flagship and only have 2 carriers left, but the UI suggests I still have those units available

[tender mantle]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd13572/newui

glory token missing in 307 in the new ui

[feral bloom]

I've succeeded running new UI on my phone (that had VPN) and indeed the icons are there👌

Well, guess, I'm stuck with old UI then🫠

Luckily it's only franken, which I actually played only once😅

[minor adder]

Have any examples?
We could just enforce bot-supported emojis only, or warn users profusely

[chrome ember]

Like this bird 🐦 I wouldn't want to be limited to only emojis the bot uses for the game

[feral bloom]

I of course don't like it doesn't show the icons, but guess, it's only for the countries that have Discord banned and also only for few that can't install the VPN at PC.. don't think high enough priority to think about it that much

But thanks for your feedback🤗

[minor adder]

Ah, so non-unicode-but-discord-only emojis?

We can probably just scrape discords emojis and plop them into the repo, but yeah, lots of work just to bypass discord hosted

[slate rune]

how do you play at all with discord being banned? 😮

given that everything requires discord to operate

oh i see, pc VPN. harder to do on phone admittedly

[feral bloom]

Android allows to tunnel selected apps connections.. windows does not, so if I use VPN there, you have to toggle back and forth

Also currently I only have corporate PC which just disallows any personal VPN completely😅

Don't bother.. too situational issue I guess🫠

[neat wigeon]

Definitely a nit, but in an 8 player game the objectives get squished by the player tiles quite a bit

[slate rune]

put it on the list

thanks!!

[short fiber]

In my game (pbd13596) I was using the planet type filter and I noticed that on The Devils tile (205) the planet types filters for Ashtroth and Abaddon were switched (red <-> blue)

[slate rune]

@north olive

[north olive]

noted

[tropic stone]

The popup on mobile keeps moving partially offscreen? I can't close it.

[minor adder]

Tap outside the pop-up, on the map

[tropic stone]

Tapping outside wasn't working earlier, but it worked now.

[neat wigeon]

The Sol Agent image is massive and throwing the whole popup off. It might be a recent change, because I don't remember it happening before. Looks like the source image is just bigger than the others:

• agent source https://asyncti4.com/leaders/solagent.webp
• commander source https://asyncti4.com/leaders/solcommander.webp

[slate rune]

oh ha - hilarious

yeah that's a regression it used to contain

[open drift]

So from what I read here, someone people can access the new UI from mobile now?
How come?

[slate rune]

it shouldn't be possible

[open drift]

Is it the VPN thay allows you to run the new UI on your phone?

[slate rune]

this will be solved in 10-15 when the code deploys thx

[slate rune]

this will be solved on next deploy

[feral bloom]

There's no button, but you can turn "PC mode" on and follow the /newui URL manually if that is required for some reason 😅

[open drift]

Oh indeed, I didnt try again recently, but now the pc version is finally showing the newui, perfect thanks 🫡

Reporting some weird offset, when clicking on a unit or a planet on the map, the popup is far far away

/gateteen/newui

[tender mantle]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd13572/newui
only the **first **glory token is shown on the map!

[surreal flower]

What do the Grey grid lines on planets mean?

[rocky plover]

A unit on that planet has Planetary Shield

[little quail]

I can see a game I'm not in (pbd12770) from the tabs of games on the top. I'm on mobile right now, so this is a dropdown for me now when I took the screenshot:

[open drift]

Try clicking on the red x next to the said game name, it should disappear from the list

[little quail]

Just reporting that a game I am not in showed up there 🙂

[open drift]

Did you follow a link opening that game somewhen?

[little quail]

No not that I am aware of, first time I saw this was right before I reported this. On PC I know for a fact that I only saw 2 games there yesterday. Today I am only on mobile, and saw there was 3 games when I only have 2 active games

[fading carbon]

Is the new UI accessible on mobile? Even going to /newui loads the old one on android chrome for me, is there a way to force it?

[surreal flower]

I see Gray grid lines on lots of planets that do not have, nor never have had planetary shield. Is that a bug then?

[open drift]

I can get the new UI if I click on "PC version" in my browser
Tho the site is not mobile responsive

[open drift]

Do you have a screenshot and the game number?

[surreal flower]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd12267/newui

[regal mortar]

The Law Conventions of War is in play. It prevents bombardment of cultural planets. That's what the grids on the map highlight. It's on the old UI as well.

[surreal flower]

Ohh, that makes sense now thank you.

[upper spindle]

this grid also shows up on planets with a pds (and thus planetary shield)

[echo parrot]

Game pbd14076 only showing old UI
even when using /newui link
https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14076/newui

[quiet magnet]

I don't think TE shows in the newui

At least it isn't for https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd13690/newui

[echo parrot]

will be interested to know if this is true...

[chrome ember]

Are ya on a computer?

[echo parrot]

yes

[chrome ember]

Well, looks like the new UI to me, so I suspect it's a your device problem rather than anything else

But it is true that the rex is missing, the new UI needs to pull a few materials

[echo parrot]

new UI has side bars and much more info
and tabs for Player area's and things this def. is not new UI

[chrome ember]

Yeah Im sayin I got those tabs and things when I follow your link

[quiet magnet]

New ui first, old ui second

all on desktop

[echo parrot]

what UI is this then?
cause I was under the impression this is the "New UI"

[upper spindle]

That’s new

[echo parrot]

As I thought the pbd14076 isn’t using it..
Is it because TE scenario? Or something else?

[echo parrot]

😲 😮

Maybe I need to clear my cookies and shit from browser

[echo parrot]

Nvm all this above... cleared my Cashe and Cookies and Site data and its all new UI now..

[open drift]

seems like speaker token is pushing the "passed" label out of the hex

/gateteen

[slate rune]

yeah the web ui hasn't been updated to account for some of the razor's edge new things yet. I really need to create a better automatic update pipeline but that's where we're at for now

[prime marlin]

New UI doesn't display new system tiles like entropic scar and legendary Mecatol

Guess you just talked about this

Carry on

I'm guessing it's a similar issue as this: https://discord.com/channels/943410040369479690/1410421973619838976

we probably need to have each object generate its own asset URL, rather than trying to write generic asset URL builders that don't cover edge cases

[vapid cedar]

Artuno and Mercer have swapped images (?)

[upbeat zenith]

CobraChickin used /search leaders search: nomadagentmercer

<:Nomad:1345114022428807228> __**Field Marshal Mercer**__ <:Agent:1345111957048397834> Shikrai General

The Nomad Agent

**At the end of a player's turn:**

You may exhaust this card to allow that player to remove up to 2 of their ground forces from the game board and place them on planets they control in the active system. [Note: The timing window of this agent should probably be end of tactical action, not end of turn. The bot treats it as such, and it is more consistent with the rules]

ID: nomadagentmercer Source: pok

[slate rune]

whoop!

[wheat trellis]

It looks like the PDS coverage doesn't account the Starfall Array. On the attached screen I have plasma scoring and starfall array, but in terms of dice count one of those is not accounted. I see plasma being accounted to other players, and my 3 pds has the same expected hits as other players, so I assume it is the array that is not accounted.
The game is pbd12182
I have PDS on Primor (2), 206 (2) and HS (1) - just for clarity as the coverage kinda makes them difficult to read.

[slate rune]

tagging @chrome ember on this one (the pds values per system are computed on the bot) would you know?

[rugged mica]

@slate rune every time i look at the new UI it's better than the last time. great work to everyone involved 🙌 my only issue has been with the readability of the fighter and infantry numbers. in my experience they're either the wrong color, or as you can see with Nomad's units the number is really fuzzy and hard to read

[slate rune]

omg lol how is this happening on yours.

this is what it SHOULD look like friend

@rugged mica what browser are you using?

[rugged mica]

i'm using Chrome on an aging Macbook 😅 i wouldn't be surprised if that was the issue. come to think of it, that's caused issues with other websites before

[slate rune]

update your chrome

sounds like whatever version you're using doesn't adequately support the -webkit-text-stroke property which is what's giving the outline

[rugged mica]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-confused-owen-wilson-dont-know-how-to-use-computer-zoolander-gif-8968881

[slate rune]

I still think even with the proper stroke rendering the font readability in the new UI isn't quite as crisp as old UI, but it should be readable vs what you sent me is ineligible

[rugged mica]

lol 💀
lmao even

[slate rune]

ooooooof. err. hm.

let me think of what I can do here to support the ancient pcs

[open drift]

I also have ~this in the native browser of my mobile

But not in firefox

[slate rune]

OK. I'll see what I can do, thanks for the report all

[verbal gulch]

at random points i just get this happening

[slate rune]

game id?

[verbal gulch]

for the map, 14074

mecatol alos just, isnt loading, but thats a more minor issue

[knotty stream]

should I be concerned about Winnu's flagship combat value?

[verbal gulch]

why whould you, it physically cant hit now

[knotty stream]

I would be concerned because the Combat value says "70" which is not a value possible on a d10. Since I'm hovering over it in my reinforcements prior to building it, I would expect to see something like "7 (x *)" where the asterisk references the number of opponent non-fighter ships.

[slate rune]

damn people changing data in unexpected ways. i'll take a look at what's going on lol

[haughty void]

Pannable UI cuts off the pop-ups for things like leader cards. (Feels like they're being displayed on a lower layer.)

[open drift]

I'll have to put this ^ back on the menu, Letnev's ARMADA display wasn't fixed in the fleet counter by the last push
https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd12501/newui
https://asyncti4.com/game/g14/newui

[slate rune]

yea, thanks. don't have a fix in the short term. done this way on mobile for #reasons

[open drift]

Also there is no counter for Titans' Sleeper Token
https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd12506/newui

[slate rune]

oh i broke this on desktop rip

i'll fix it lol

[open drift]

and finally, the ws counter disappeared from the Map tab Panel views

[haughty void]

Luckily, we still have the individual tabs on pannable mode, and it looks like everything is correctly visible there.

[slate rune]

this should be fixed if you refresh

[haughty void]

Confirmed, Darktalon Treilla has her powers back! 🙂

[slate rune]

it this some alternative mecatol?

oh does it have the legendary or whatever

[verbal gulch]

I think so yeah

[slate rune]

are you still getting the crashes?

[verbal gulch]

Yes

[slate rune]

what are you clicking/selecting to get the crash?

[verbal gulch]

I've gotten it from scrolling around, but I think I have a theory, let me test it rq

Yeah okay, if I click on mecatol

[slate rune]

very nice - thanks - I'll fix it

[slate rune]

this should be resolved

[ivory glade]

It looks like planet cards are not shown correctly in the new UI if they are readied or exhausted. Here is a comparison. For example Arinam is readied and Velnor is exhausted but looks the same in new UI. It is the same in both my games and map refresh didn't help.

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd13027/newui

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd13288/newui

[slate rune]

probably an old browser thing. what browser are you using? they show as exhausted on my end

[open drift]

Tried the first game and it doesnt work on both of my mobile browsers, but it works when I activate the PC version on each
So the problem might come from the mobile version of the site

[vocal venture]

Im still getting some pretty heavy lagging with the new iu on firefox when the map is on screen

[slate rune]

on mobile/desktop?

[vocal venture]

desktop

pretty good computer and it runs fine on chrome

as soon as I scroll below the map it goes away

[slate rune]

strange

[slate rune]

sorry not trying to brush you off. will try to see what I can do but sounds like a more localized problem. runs fine on firefox on a variety of devices I've tested, and ironically the "map" area is far less graphically heavy than the player areas (where you see more lag)

I did a lot of performance improvements for mobile that. I plan on 'porting back' into the desktop code. Perhaps when I've finished all that, you'll see better performance. I'll let you know and ask to test and see if it helps 🫡

thanks for the report

[vocal venture]

sounds good

I disabled my ad blocker, and none of my other extensions should touch that website

if you want video of the lag or logs or smthn for your testomg that I could help

[slate rune]

sure!

[granite temple]

Wife sent me that her map looks like this on Safari

[slate rune]

very nice

[ivory glade]

I'm using android version of chrome.

[ivory glade]

I tried to open it with desktop view setting and then it works just fine. Planets are shown as exhausted as they should. It seems there is some problem with the mobile version of the site only. It was the same problem regardless what mobile browser I used as long as it was the mobile and not desktop version I opened.

[slate rune]

I was able to reproduce. Will take a look thanks

[slate rune]

Also what theme are you using

[vocal venture]

The default one

[open drift]

This should be posted in the meme channel...

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-amazing-so-beautiful-it-is-what-it-is-gif-22558916

[clear cosmos]

Getting this error on the website repeatedly, game pbd14217. Seems to happen when I'm zoomed in manually by pinch and zoom, but I'm always zoomed in so not sure if that's related. I'm on the most recent version of chrome on desktop.

[thick hull]

Did something change in the bot links? I used to always open OldUI and now suddenly I always open NewUI. I can't find a way to save my preference or anything, but on mobile it opens NewUI which is not useable at all for me, so I have to click "Go To Old UI"

[slate rune]

hi - what's unusable about it? 🙂

[slate rune]

thanks. this has been fixed. (cc @verbal gulch )

[verbal gulch]

fun fact about that

[slate rune]

did you refresh?

[thick hull]

It's too big, the panels aren't very easy to navigate. But mostly everything is too large and I can't find the information I'm looking for effectively

However, I'm not very interested in trying to fix that problem, the old UI works just fine for me and I'd like to default to that if I can

[slate rune]

I'll support saving and transitioning to the two easily, but feedback is helpful. thank you!

[verbal gulch]

oh yeah its fixed now

[thick hull]

The layout looks nice, however, it feels like the same information takes up about 1.25 to 1.5x the space. Simple things, like the POs look really crisp, but the tokens work just fine on the original.

The part I don't enjoy is I can't seem to easily see the Unit techs people have. The remaining plastic is much bigger, but it feels like more real estate to relay the same information

[slate rune]

oh interesting. is the blue highlight/background not prominent enough or not eye-catching enough?

[thick hull]

Now the you say it, I see it and it's prominent. I had no idea that's what it meant

Might have deduced it on my own, but I always gave up and went to old UI prior to this

[slate rune]

old UI will continue to be supported. I'll ping you when I fix the "remember my preference" thing. although the goal is to make the new one strictly better.

i hear you loud and clear about the excessive whitespace. will continue tinkering with it. goal is to keep horizontal layout of items rather than "head tilt" text, so a little compromise is necessary, but I agree it's not striking just the right balance currently

[thick hull]

Sorry to come off very cynical, you're quite open to feedback so I'm trying to give as much as I can in an objective honest way. I think if the tech all had a consistent background color, then if you highlighted the background of the units with that same color, it might be more clear

[slate rune]

before you give up on it. can you refresh on your mobile? I just pushed a huge number of small tweaks for mobile that should make it significantly more compact and usable,. I think the information density now approaches the old UI (although not identical)

for clarity will still do the "remember old UI preference"

(still more work to do to be clear)

[thick hull]

This definitely feels better. It still requires me to scroll to the right to see all the information, but it's less white space overall. I can start to see using this

[lofty cargo]

Looks like the new UI map isn't showing the Chieran Teeming limits, it is showing right on the old UI.
https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd13663/newui

[thick hull]

I cannot tell what planets are exhausted or not at all. What am I missing?

[slate rune]

it's a known bug on mobile, top of the list for me to fix. just been on an int'l work trip but should have some time here shortly (maybe even right now!)

[tropic stone]

not sure if this has been reported but the tech's have recently started being misaligned?

[slate rune]

strange, thanks for the report. I'll take a look when I have a free moment.

[keen stratus]

https://discord.com/channels/943410040369479690/1425152673350418444

asyncti.com and discord bot show different explore decks

Uncharted space

these explores dont even add up to 11

because its missing an attachement

[open drift]

Maybe uncharted space components are not displayed?

[slate rune]

they should be but that's the kind of thing that would be a likely bug

[keen stratus]

yes its a US attachement thats missing

also while im here let me post a couple other things that dont look right

[slate rune]

erg the franken tokens is a fun time lol 🙁

[keen stratus]

it gets better. even tho i changed my icon to the top menu looks like this

[slate rune]

Game id?

[keen stratus]

this is game pbd13989

[keen stratus]

mirage doesnt have an owner token pbd14303

saw this in every other game mirage popped up in

[last estuary]

FYI when you click the button to show tech spec planets, it won't show for attachements that give tech spec, see 104 and 209 https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14265/newui

[keen stratus]

sometimes I have to relog cuz it stops showing my hand

[vocal venture]

is it possible to have a toggle that lets me prefer old ui? I still ahve some issues that the new one creates

[thick vine]

hey guys!
new UI does not showing TE new systems

in the old UI and disrcord everything is working fine

[thick vine]

pbd14406 and pbd14409

[lethal belfry]

Diplo'd the system with TE, and the CCs are under the planet.

[terse scroll]

Firstly, stellar job on the new site. Looks just awesome, thanks for your effort.

Now I'm not sure if these have been mentioned, excuse me if they have:

• on my phone - the old website allowed one to click on the POs and get details of what they are. I don't know what all the POs do, so that was really helpful. This feature is no longer there.
• when I zoom in on my phone, I cannot scroll to any of the pages borders.
• on the phone, when clicking some of the techs, part of the tech description goes off screen.

Thank you for all you've done.

[keen stratus]

oh yeah I love the new website

[minor adder]

Anything else you need for this @slate rune?
webData should have:

• tableTalkJumpLink
• actionsJumpLink
• a cardsInfoThreadLink per player

[slate rune]

just saying all the above is acknowledged and i'll fix bugs as a priority particularly around new TE content

[rustic raft]

Really love the new map layout! My only issue is that I play with Anarchy Strategy Cards and they do not show up properly. Map thinks we are using Base SC, so even though 5 is actually Construction and 9 is Technology, on the Player Area tab Trade information comes up when clicking on 5 and 9 has no information at all.

On that, a QoL that would be nice to allow hover (or click) on the Map Tab to be able to read the SCs as well. Again, LOVING the new UI! Taking some getting used to, but from someone who is change-averse, this is great! 😍

[rustic raft]

Not certain this is a UI issue or Bot issue, but the Neutral Bot for Minor Factions showed Carrier II, Destroyer II, and Fighter II Unit Upgrade Technologies, but was never given those. Also, tried using /tech_remove and it came up as "NULL". Allowed me to /tech_add Cruiser II to give that Unit Upgrade, but when I tried /tech_remove Cruiser II, it came up "NULL" again.

[open drift]

@rustic raft could you provide web links for those 2 issues, pls?

[rustic raft]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd9530b/newui

Appologies, is this what you want?

It is the same game, pbd9530b.

[slate rune]

Honestly the neutral bot should be excluded entirely from the UI

[rustic raft]

I do not disagree.

However, I do sometimes like to play modified MF games where they have more units and am considering even Tech to make them a bit more robust. Make it more challenging. So I do not mind them being on the UI.

[chrome ember]

Should it? It has odd ship stats so maybe it should be there in TE games

As reference

[slate rune]

yeah that's interesting

I think it might be better to just design a neutral units view that doesn't try to show all the information that a player card does though

[chrome ember]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-17455759098875288065

If neutral == faction {justShowShips;}

[modern lark]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14400/newui
nucleus draft looks weird in new ui; old is fine

[modern lark]

this is what i see

[minor adder]

New systems aren't in newui yet, I don't think

[chrome ember]

We auto give neutral player the upgrades since thats what they have according to the ruels

[slate rune]

I'll upload them tonight or tomorrow

Been out of town and so no solid wifi

[minor adder]

Is there a way to easily automate that?

[ripe prairie]

Can't tell how many fighters are in this system. Can we get a clearer font

Also, cabal SDs are not showing gravity rifts with them

Same systems

[slate rune]

i see the gravity rift token underneath no?

[slate rune]

yeah thanks, this is another issue some have reported the font not rendering properly on some systems. I'll prioritize solving

[slate rune]

do you have discord blocked by any chance? the franken icons come from discord and I know this was an issue for someone in Russia

@keen stratus for clarity your game looks like this to me

[slate rune]

is it better now

[slate rune]

is it better now

[slate rune]

this should be solved now

[slate rune]

this should be solved now

[slate rune]

this should be solved now

[open drift]

Unfortunately not

Also now you have control tokens above infantry units on planets

as you can see in the screenshot

[slate rune]

ui is hard

[slate rune]

hard refresh the browser. hopefully the zstack issue + the text stroke issue is fixed

[open drift]

https://tenor.com/view/test-nice-computer-finished-gif-14303218

Time to celebrate! Ill bring the party hats!

[wet wadi]

Not trying to be a no change boomer or anything, but just usability feedback on the new pannable mode.
I was excited to try it but found it to be still a bit painful for me. I distilled it down to this issue.
In the old UI, It's very reasonable to expect to see and be able to read ALL the player area at the same time on one screen.
This is possible in the new pannable UI to any readable degree due to the dynamic scaling and flex on all the elements.
I realise the issue I'm bringing up is a massive can of worms. I'm a web dev also... Maybe it's just too high a padding percentage or something

Here's my example screenshots of old vs new, zoomed to the point where the same info is visible on both.

[slate rune]

Try grid view

There's a little grid toggle in pannable mode

[wet wadi]

Struggling to find it. Bare with

[slate rune]

Right below the objectives and above where the player areas start

[wet wadi]

Ahh

[slate rune]

You might need to put 80% zoom to get all of them on your screen but just depends on your monitor

I'm still tweaking it it's not perfect but it should get you what you want

[open drift]

little issue, sometime abilities & faction techs are next line
when they are not, it goes over the unit stats

[slate rune]

Yep

[wet wadi]

Yep, that's a bit better just due to using up that wasted horizontal space.

I guess it's just riding that line of making it look really aesthetic and pleasing to the average joe, vs having all the data available at a glance and being a little bit counter to UI design principles.

Like a public facing website vs a SCADA system where the technical users know what they're looking at and don't care if its ugly in service of finding info quicker.

[slate rune]

If you use the grid view enough I think it actually allows fitting more information with all the layout tweaks than the old UI which has everything vertical and forces a lot of space in between the main content and the army stats

Give it an honest shot then tell me what you'd like to change and I'll likely incorporate it ^^

I have too many variants and need to reduce the surface area but leaving them all up for now to learn and see what's best

Likely pannable will be default/only grid moving forward

[wet wadi]

Yeah grid view is totally perfect on my monitor. I'll get use to where to look for what info soon enough, not worried about that aspect. Not sure if I'm preferring the idea of the stacked players more due to objective things like an inherent order, colomnar viewing of similar stats etc etc or if that's just being too used to it bias. That bit I'll gauge for a while in my pannable grid mode!

I'm eager to see how it'll come together on smaller screens like phones, if that is in the pipeline. That's when the data density issues will really be a struggle

[rustic raft]

Really? I missed that part. I like it.

[wheat trellis]

Just noticed something very weird: Qhet has a Custodian VP, but they are not even in the game... And every time I click on the tab with the other game (where they are and have a vp there) and then click back to the game without them, one more imperial point they earn - in both games! Pretty OP, to win with them just switch tabs 😉
I play only those two games, the one where I noticed the issue, without Qhet is https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14194/newui, the game with Qhet invoved is https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd12182/newui (writing this post I made them up to 5 custodian vp!).

[vocal venture]

When I zoom out a lot to see the entire map on one screen (or use my ultrawide) I notice that the new ui just shrinks all of the components but doesn't really show you any more zoomed out

in the old ui, you can get a good view of all the play areas just by zooming out. Especially when you are on a vertical 16:9 monitor

like this

but in the new ui, I see a lot less information with the same amount of space

im not sure if I have a specific suggestion here, but this is another friction point for me moving over to the new ui

along with the lag that seemingly im the only one experienceing

lol

[ripe prairie]

The top view is the new UI, the bottom view is the map displayed in the maps thread.

[ripe prairie]

Yes, i can read the numbers clearly now. Thank you

[open drift]

What mode/expansion/homebrew is Qhet from?

[wheat trellis]

Blue Reverie

[open drift]

this is what I have, only 0 and 2 Imperial VP

in /gateteen we have this weird logo on the imperial box
probably because lime was eliminated, and they had 1 VP there

[wheat trellis]

If you go there once then you have it correctly only 2imperial on proper game. But do as follows:
Open the game with Qhet. Close all tabs on the top other than this single game. Open the other game. Have exactly those two games opened. On both games switch tabs to "Objectives". Switch between games using tabs without refreshing the games and observe. Any page refresh makes the game back to normal.

It doesnt happen after switching tabs once, but since you do it two full cycles it starts to getting weird. I only noticed it because I was actually calculating endgames in both games so I was switching constantly with no refresh

[slate rune]

Try the grid view as mentioned above

[keen stratus]

this is the game with the DS explores. the other game 13828 is pok franken. I put the name in the screenshot

I'm sorry i play at least half a dozen games at once

sorry i didnt clarify that i was posting different games

[keen stratus]

this help you?

[slate rune]

it does - thank you!

also @vocal venture i'll definitely add old ui persisted preference in a bit here. apologies for slow updates. back home today

[vocal venture]

no worries! This isn't your job 😄

[cerulean path]

Some tool tips are having a bad time

Not super important as you can just move around but yeah, some clipping

[slate rune]

Mobile?

[cerulean path]

Yes

[keen stratus]

mantle cracked planet mandle shows up as its original value (2/2) instead of what its supposed to be (3/1) after it was taken by another player
DS - Gledge - pbd14068

also regnem is a 3/2

(old ui)

[slate rune]

ty for report

[keen stratus]

new UI doesnt handle Gift of Prescience. everyone is just shown with their normal SC initiative after its played

this came up in pbd13828

[slate rune]

oof

[woven kraken]

Loving the auto-populate on Discord login, but it seems like the width check for putting them within the dropdown is failing (Using Vivaldi, so Chromium based)

And yes, I have a problem

[slate rune]

If you resize the window does it fix itself or nah

[woven kraken]

Nah, doesn't seem to

[slate rune]

Kk will investigate

[woven kraken]

What prop are you checking for the width check?

I could check it in console for you

[slate rune]

nice lol

[inland star]

Hello, does the asyncTI website show the breakthroughs? I don't see them in a demo game I'm in

[slate rune]

It doesn't

[slate rune]

Eventually will.

[inland star]

Found a small visual bug. Gral/Centauri have the colors for the planet feature overlay reversed. (Gral is blue, but should be green; Centauri is green, should be blue)

[inner dagger]

Can we have the new UI show custom hyperlanes?

[slate rune]

what are custom hyperlanes by any chance? I'm not familiar with these 😄

[slate rune]

no worries. i can just use mock data to simulate having a ton of tabs and see what's going on 🙂

[minor adder]

Dumped them here: #1427793137962717235 message

[slate rune]

where are the image assets for these I guess

[minor adder]

Should be the same location as all tiles.
Hm, maybe we auto-gen 6 rotations from the 1 image nah looks like they're pre-rotated

[slate rune]

do you have a game id i can use to diagnose

[minor adder]

The draft tiles we do auto-gen, and I have noticed them missing from newui, though that's not really impactful

[verbal pawn]

IDK if I'm doing it wrong somehow. But I can no longer get the same "mouse-over" info on the web. Especially when on mobile.

For example. In the new UI I can't click the unit techs to see requirements. Or click on objectives to see descriptions.

Happens in multiple games.

If I have it go back to the old UI it still works though.

[inner dagger]

Pbd14018. This is a map testing and ruleset testing for me and a buddy.

/map custom_hyperlanes is the command

[thick hull]

Can't read these numbers in my nombox as Cabal

[north olive]

This will be resolved very soon!

[woeful marlin]

It looks like Custodia Vigilia is displayed as readied in the new UI when you gain it, where it correctly shows as exhausted in the old UI/bot generated maps

[spark sierra]

Will the "Needs to Follow" be implemented at some point? That's probably pretty low priority with everything new being added ha.

[slate rune]

frankly probably not

[dry arch]

Not sure if this is the place for it, but I'm getting this error:

Cannot read properties of null (reading 'toUpperCase')
TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'toUpperCase')
    at k3 (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:3284:80964)
    at h$ (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:3296:4985)
    at Bp (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:48:34207)
    at ny (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:48:62968)
    at y2 (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:48:73533)
    at z2 (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:48:107673)
    at C4 (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:48:106732)
    at Sy (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:48:106562)
    at U2 (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:48:103653)
    at ax (https://asyncti4.com/assets/index-xPgs6bmG.js:48:115295)```

[slate rune]

Game id?

[errant flame]

I am running to this error when trying to open the website view of a map. I've tried to logout/login from discord, also cleared the cached data. Does anybody else run into this? Any idea how to solve?

[errant flame]

It's solved, i did the clear cache again and now it's ok.

[open drift]

/gateteen
the ui doesnt show pools for copper player (it works just fine for others players)

https://asyncti4.com/game/gateteen

it's been like this for a while but I only post it now as I cant see Old UI anymore

[slate rune]

@open drift can you see old ui now

[open drift]

Yes thanks

[dry arch]

So sorry it took me so long to get back to you. pbd9978

[little iron]

Would it be possible to gray out the factions that have passed in the General Overview area of the new UI? Right now, all faction symbols remain colored, making it difficult to see who's passed without going to the individual Player Areas.

[little iron]

The AC and objective decks in the General Overview don't seem to have card counters, while all the other decks do. Is this by design, or a bug? Also, the SO deck counter is set to 0, when that deck is definitely not empty.

In fact, almost all the card counters appear to be wrong. Cultural should have 4 (indicates 4), industrial should have 7 (indicates 12), hazardous should have 6 (indicates 10), and frontier should have 10 (indicates 14).

[open drift]

are you playing with homebrew content like uncharted space?

what is the game ID?

[slate rune]

all that data discrepancy should be fixed though 🙁

except the SO one

[little iron]

No, straight POK. It's pbd13288.

[slate rune]

so im looking at your game

[upbeat zenith]

The_Spanish_Inquisition used /search for_game game_name: pbd13288

Here's the requested channels:
#1412486424921641022
#1412486427404533830

[slate rune]

the counts seem to match to me

(that's from the old ui)

[little iron]

SO should have 25, by my count.

[slate rune]

yea I had to disable it because we were exposing secret information through that endpoint that was public 🙈

[little iron]

My screenshot is the new UI. Old UI is no longer accessible to me.

[slate rune]

@little iron it should be accessible if you just hit the 'go to new ui' button on the top right corner. but the point being that the amounts being reported are consistent across the two 🤷‍♂️

[open drift]

I see the same numbers as Faust

[little iron]

Hmm, something weird is going on then. When u request the deck info in the map thread, I'm getting different counts.

[slate rune]

ha

[little iron]

Wait, I'm an idiot.

[slate rune]

the counts actually come from the backend in the new ui they aren't computed client side (setting aside the obvious 0 so bug for reasons I mentioned)

[little iron]

Some of those are fragments, which are a single line, but multiple cards. I'm facepalming so hard right now.

[slate rune]

do you not see the button on the right in your ui?

[slate rune]

lol you're fine. there's been a lot of discrepancies anyways as i iron out all the bugs so it''s reaosnable to question 😄

[little iron]

Yeah, and it works too.

[slate rune]

yea. it should save the setting

so if you prefer old ui it'll just load old from now on for all your games

that said new ui is pretty cool and you should consider getting used to it 👀 🤣 (we will support the image for indefinite future I believe)

[little iron]

I prefer it on mobile, but on desktop the new UI is king (except when streaming or recording games).

[slate rune]

does the pannable view not work for your streaming use case?

how can I make it better for you 🙂

[little iron]

Haven't tried it yet, tbh. Will give it a whirl over the weekend.

The nice thing about the old UI is that all information is present in a pretty compact area. So when you're recording you can, with a bit of creative shuffling, have all info on screen in a static setting, without having to manually intervene. The compact information leaves enough room to dedicate a nice portion of the screen to Discord, so then you can follow the game in it's entirety. I'll check if I have some screenshots I can post to show you what I mean.

Something like this:

There's some fluff in there that could go, but this has the advantage of showing all relevant info, including the Discord channel, in a compact enough area to fit on one screen.

Looking at the new UI, the pannable version, the elements are much bigger. This means that if I want to fit them all into the single screen for recording, I'll have to make them so small they'll probably be unreadable. Or sacrifice the left hand side of the screen. I'll need to fiddle with it a little.

[slate rune]

yeah that makes perfect sense

this is useful, thanks

[little iron]

So this is what it would look like with the new pannable UI. It's definitely not bad, I think the faction areas are a little harder to make out, but they weren't super readable with the old UI either. This actually works much better than I expected.

[slate rune]

@little iron trying to think how to make it better

[little iron]

What might help is if the information on the faction area was more spread out to the right, so that the font could be a little bigger. For the objectives it might be helpful to be able to hide the objective text (only displaying the title) so that fonts there could be bigger.

That said, this isn't half bad at all. There's only so much you can fit on a screen of any given size.

[slate rune]

@little iron would recommend the midnight theme or the dark theme rather than the green theme for this display might be more legible

[little iron]

Yeah, I thought I turned that on, but apparently I messed up.

[slate rune]

@little iron maybe if the obj display were smaller then you could fit another player area in the horizontal space and then blow them up a bit?

[wet wadi]

Off topic @little iron, but how often are you streaming? I’d be keen to see an async ti stream now and then

[deft crag]

Sharing picture here after totally forgetting this dedicated thread exists and making a separate post:

The "go to new UI" page alignment borks the game selection drop down on the old UI.

[slate rune]

Yea ill fix. Thanks

[slate rune]

fix for this incoming

[slate rune]

is this still happening to you?

[slate rune]

what's the game id? i know its been reported several times but I need to look at the data to see if its a ui glitch or data issue

[woeful marlin]

pbd14456

[slate rune]

tyty

[deft crag]

(mobile) Franken factions with regular emojis as their icon just show up as the head defaults. (love the different heads btw lol)

(mobile) If you drag the tool bar up all the way under the page banner, units will switch to drawing over the banner.

(mobile) Map is not centered in display area. Not sure due to 7p map template, the 14 VP bar, or both. Game is pbd14534.

I really love the new mobile layout, btw. It does a good job of sticking to the easy, pannable feel of the old UI while introducing some of the best features from the desktop new UI.

Would love to be able to see my hand info on mobile if possible, though, like desktop. I couldn't seem to locate it if it already is there.

[little iron]

Yeah, that could work if I also make the map smaller. Question is then of the objective display won't be too small.

[little iron]

I've done 3 recordings so far together with a group that did a couple of real time async games. I got the streaming idea after watching a few of the tournament games that used TTS.

[slate rune]

wait how are you triggering this.

[slate rune]

probably. but would like to fix. thanks for the report and game id

[slate rune]

really appreciate it. has been very tough to get it right lol. definitely throw not just bug fixes but any suggestions for improvement you have into the channel 🙂

[slate rune]

gotcha thanks

yeah the double scroll is so annoying. I don't know if I can fix, but I'm going to try to

really I think the top bar should not be possible to be scrolled down

its also annoying though because currently if you don't the bottom player area is slightly cut off

[deft crag]

(mobile) The deck list pop up isn't displaying right.

[deft crag]

I kind of like it honestly. It won't move unless you grab specific areas, and if it gets hidden it unhides itself with panic scrolling lol.

If you make the toolbar always on screen, would it be possible to make the page banner scroll off screen instead? The two of them together are bordering on too much vertical space being used up when I'm panning and zooming in and stuff.

[slate rune]

yeah that's a fair shout

[slate rune]

another solution is to remove the top bar and move it into a hamburger menu on mobile. would save a lot of space

[deft crag]

Ooo, I like that. On mobile 90% of my time is just strategizing with the standard pannable map overview. Having to go to a menu for deck info and overlays sounds reasonable. At least on paper.

[slate rune]

would you prefer the game tabs to be put in hamburger menu over the game switcher? i was thinking that one 😄

[deft crag]

Ohhh, um, honestly I do switch between games so much that I like having that quick access. I guess, maybe if tapping the hamburger showed your active games without having to tap a second time for a drop down in the menu that would be nice?

[deft crag]

Something like this? The orange would be the async logo and blue would be tappable game names like they are in the current drop down.

[slate rune]

Yeah

I like that

I'll pilot it

[deft crag]

Could we get the game name and round number squeezed in somewhere like in the old UI?

[slate rune]

Yep that and secret hand are on the list

[minor adder]

I'd love for this to show both opt/tot values without requiring the toggle

[wet yarrow]

The new TE planet Tinnes (2/1) appears as (1/2) on the New UI. In-game and Old UI appears to be the (2/1) however.

[minor adder]

newui needs fake relic distinction
Enigmatic is a "relic" in backend, but is also flagged as a "fake relic" to distinguish
See Winnu in this game: https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14447

Pannable UI on mobile player areas show duplicate faction tech info, once researched

[slate rune]

this is intentional

[minor adder]

vs paneled not having it?

if it's intentional, then I think the colouring needs to be different to not be confused with it's research status
I don't personally see a benefit to the duplication

I wish mobile view supported or was defaulted to the black background/theme

[slate rune]

the fun thing about UI/UX with a complex game is everyone has different opinions of what they want 🫠

[slate rune]

sure I can do that. I think I might make the black theme just the default tbh. its the one I personally use. and we don't need two blue themes. some good cleanup there for sure

[minor adder]

Yeah, it's brutal to try and accomodate every opinion.
We've kind of already worked through some UI issues in the past.
e.g. When we started showing faction techs on the OldUI, we were showing them all the time but there were complaints about the duplication being confusing, even with them being offset and coloured differently.

[slate rune]

I'm team removing them as they get researched personally

like RIGHT NOW we have

• PlayerCardMobile
• PlayerCardSidebar
• PlayerCardSidebarComponents
• PlayerCardSidebarStrength
• PlayerCardSidebarTech
• PlayerCardTab

so the same information is displayed in essentially 6 different layout configurations which is kind of absurd but c'est la vie

[minor adder]

eliminated players don't appear in newui

ideally DMZ token is displayed underneath other tokens - probably similar for other "large" tokens

[minor adder]

Wondering if it's worth "proper"ing the faction name & colour

Some games have a "faction display name" - typically just franken and community games, I think. Not sure if it's been used elsewhere for other reasons.
For example: https://asyncti4.com/game/gateteen

[slate rune]

yes i struggle to understand how all the franken stuff works tbh

just pushed some fun changes to the mobile view though!

[minor adder]

Which parts? I can probably help decipher. The franken factions are essentially the same as normal factions, just with some workarounds to customize the display, most notably just the faction icon

[slate rune]

sounds like there's three versions. you have the 'default' icons. then you have 'emoji' but then also random discord url

atm it supports default and discord urls but emojis are not properly shown

but its confusing because i think emoji doubles down as a term for the 'emoji font' and also for the 'discord emoji' (which does work)

[minor adder]

Right, yeah, the font. I wonder if we can just extract all the emojis from the font as an image

[slate rune]

also do the discord links work for you? they don't for me

at least not on my mobile device

[minor adder]

Yeah, working great so far

On desktop they don't open the discord app, just browser, but that's alright

[slate rune]

might be a way to fix that will investigate

[deft crag]

Love how the menu turned out!

[deft crag]

Is the TE expedition token still being worked on? Or is it supposed to be visible on the new UI already? It's not showing up for us:

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14819

We did an all TE game with nucleus draft.

The new UI is also showing a "Dicecord" user that the old UI doesn't. That, I assume, is due to Luckaholic not getting loaded in properly when the draft finished.

Actually, <@&1166011604488425482> , this is apparently not an uncommon occurrence for Luckaholic to not get setup after a draft and need to deal themselves in. Could you see if there's anything obvious about their info that might be causing that? Quirk of their discord ID? Corrupted player preferences or something?

[slate rune]

Yeah still needs to be worked on

[upbeat zenith]

Fin used /search for_game game_name: pbd14819

Here's the requested channels:
#1429654642802819092
#1429654645227126804

[chrome ember]

Ya Ill push somethin tonight that should fix it

[deft crag]

Sweet! Thanks for taking a look!

[deft crag]

Tech skip overlay doesn't highlight if the skips are from attachments

[slate rune]

Yep

Need to prioritize fixing that

[slate rune]

just pushed a TON of updated 🙂

** unit placement **

• thunders edge will be properly placed in center of tile
• 'fighters' will be always placed on the right side of tiles (better readability)

** theme **

• fix vaporwave theme in pannable mode having translucency with the objectives

map

• tech trait toggle properly accounts for attachments
• both tech trait and planet trait toggle given updated sleek glow
• pannable now shows game name and round number
• added hamburger menu for mobile
• pannable now shows secret hand (not on mobile yet)

player cards (pannable)

• swapped placement of unit upgrades and tech, fits much better
• increased agent/commander/hero size a tad
• army stats won't overlap tech/unit area
• better optimal/totals breakdown
• fake relics will show as frontier explores instead of as relics (enigmatic device)
• researched faction techs won't show in the abilities row.
• fix some (but not all) franken icon related issues
• unit details card (on tap) now shows upgrade information including upgrade prereqs

[fading carbon]

Addition of unit upgrade on hover: great ❤️ Destroyers are missing the upgraded AFB on hover though

[open drift]

All unit abilities are missing (AFB, Bomb, PShield, Prod, SCannon, SustainD) from the unit upgrade hover view

[deft crag]

I guess the neutral unit player being displayed as a real player is a new UI bug. Low priority if it's a pain to fix, but wanted to make sure you had it on the list.

[slate rune]

Yea i probably should add them was just trying to balance conciseness with information so I didn't 👀

[ebon umbra]

The little "upgrades to" panel is great, I think it's new? It's missing Memoria2 though 🙁

[slate rune]

yea new. thanks for report on memoria. ill check

[rustic raft]

Seems the UI is frozen on a previous turn. Still shows Mirevda as Active player, even though we are about to come back to their turn. No updates from their build tried closing out and reopening, have clicked "Refresh Map" several times. Even X'd out the map and reopened Website View several times. The map is legit on the bot-map-updates, it shows correctly - just the UI not updating.

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd9530b

[slate rune]

@rustic raft thx for the report i indeed see an exception generating the web data. will take a look

[slate rune]

@rustic raft will be a bit (like later today maybe) so use old ui in the meantime

[rustic raft]

Thank you.

[turbid hedge]

The cancelled symbol does not appear in the web ui (which made me follow an unreachable secret 😆)

[slate rune]

good stuff. there's so much!

[turbid hedge]

Great job anyways. Just played my first async Games (never saw the old ui) and it’s great 👍🏼

[slate rune]

im curious did you use pannable or panels mode or both and which did you like more

(I have a working theory existing players will prefer pannable but new players panels)

or did you just play on phone

[turbid hedge]

Panels. The right panel is super informative for me, dont want to ever play without it. But Im also using a curved wide screen monitor

[turbid hedge]

I cannot longer login via Discord. Common issue or its only me?

[minor adder]

New scoretrack for pannable on mobile greatly increases the width of the screen 🙁

[slate rune]

Oops I'll fix it needs the same zoom modifier and doesn't have it lol

[wet wadi]

DMZ big token is placed over control tokens and attachments.

Would treating it as the same sort of layer as the planetary shield be best? Not sure what would be on top out of those 2, but probably doesn't matter

[slate rune]

Yes I think so. Right now all tokens are in the same layer which is obviously not great

[dim bone]

Im playing NRA and believe the exploration decks aren't being shuffled after being used. I've gone through the deck 3 times now and then cards seem to be in the same order (not counting the fragments ive used).

[spring jetty]

This isn't really a ui thing. Can you make a new thread in here to help us teach it better? And can you link to the game in question or give the ID number? That'll help the devs too

Thanks!

https://discord.com/channels/943410040369479690/1075302410030944276

[upbeat zenith]

Fin used /search my_games player: @morriden

morriden's Games
1.pbd12016#1398493765617979575

Please follow:
2.pbd14076#1421650752560037979
3.pbd14685#1428119223246389248
4.pbd14782#1429180769678397541
5.pbd14786#1429227756222152934
6.pbd14797#1429438488935141426
7.pbd14799#1429490218766958712
Please follow:
8.pbd14981#1431675541693530193
9.pbd14986#1431732360143048859

[chrome ember]

I think it's just an extremely small deck and ya pulled the same things tbh

Not that unlikely

[keen stratus]

mirage is displaying over the CC
pbd14303

mobile

[dim bone]

Its possible but that's 3 shuffles with the same card generation that matches the order of "show explore decks"

[chrome ember]

Well, we got a lot of evidence of it workin, and would expect to occasionally encounter such stories as yours

Given a large enough volume

[dim bone]

Sounds good, just wanted to make sure i said something on the off chance. Yall have made something amazing.

[ebon umbra]

I don't know how much of DS is meant to be implemented, but the Berserkers tokens dont' show any indicator of there being multiple in the same system see picture for new vs old ui
https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14752

[little iron]

Doesn't the "show explore decks" just show the order of cards by chance of them being drawn? So if you're constantly cycling the same discards into new decks, those chances would remain constant.

[slate rune]

thanks this is a helpful image

[rustic raft]

Thank you so much for your tireless efforts!! 💜

[deft crag]

...I never thought about that, that's neat lol. Then again it took me, like, 4-5 games to realize that the top-to-bottom order of the player area in the pannable view is just the seating order, so I'm not exactly great at making those connections xD

[lament junco]

we found a bug. Planet Credius has s blue skip in the new UI but not in the old

[chrome ember]

Just cause @slate rune the new UI is still usin the old images

[slate rune]

i keep updating it but there are more updates streaming in 😛

now it will auto-push new iamges but not auto-update existing ones

that's because existing images are intentionally cached (saves lots of bandwidth and $$$)

[open drift]

Issues with the score breakdown section

• the score breakdown track only goes to 10 in 11+ VP games
• some components arent put in the proper component type box
  • ex.: https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14002 Kollecc has relic Throne of the False Emperor VP displayed as an Agenda VP; Florzen has a Drive the Debate VP displayed as an Agenda VP?!?
• idk whats happening with Purple Imperial potential VP and Yellow Custodian scored VP, but there is a lot of games with several people having Custodian points
  • ex.: https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14007

[fathom vine]

Current Bug:

• Web View: New UI, Panels Mode
• Alliance Promissory Note is showing a different ability than what my commander's ability is
• PN ability does not match any commander ability of players in game

[slate rune]

Thx it's probably picking up some homebrew variant

[fallow widget]

Feature Request: Is there any way that the player side panel could show what that faction's PN does? That is the one item that I keep forgetting about and need to read the wiki to remember what they are. Not sure exactly how one would show it since you wouldn't want to imply that player still possesses their PN (and perhaps this is why it doesn't exist yet).

[fleet token]

Would be nice if the naaz’s BT super mech was more obvious. Only indication rn is the small blue border around the BT in the play area, easy to miss.

[minor adder]

@shrewd pollen upload your beefcake mech

[shrewd pollen]

this guy?

Yah I can add him rq

[minor adder]

We could create a bunch of custom cool mechs to pick from
/user set_nra_supermech

[shrewd pollen]

I mean, I'll add him to old ui

[fleet token]

Beefcake mech is awesome 😂

[shrewd pollen]

@slate rune I added /decals/Voltron.png which can be used to assemble , the super mech

(mustache optional but recommended)

[prime marlin]

I dunno if this has been mentioned before, but I was thinking about how in physical games many people use little unit stands for space units to help separate things. I wonder if we could mimic this in the UI by giving a toggle to hide space units, so you can more easily see tokens and planetary units.

Because I think with TE we are gonna have more situations where tokens are covered up.

[spring jetty]

You can I'm the old UI yeah via discord buttons

[prime marlin]

Yeah I was thinking something with instant feedback like all the other overlay toggles

[slate rune]

sure

[shrewd pollen]

Little preview of new emojis I'm workin on

[dusty arrow]

Love the new UI. Thanks for all of your hard work! I noticed that sometimes things placed on the tiles obscure what's underneath. In this case, the Gamma wormhole is almost completely obscuring the gravity rift.

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd15088

[slate rune]

the new content is in a state of active development on the new UI so yeah quite a few things are not quite right. I'm working on it though. thanks for the report 🙂

[dusty arrow]

Thanks for making an amazing bot!!

[velvet elbow]

Small issue with the New and Old UI Cresius planet, in the old UI it has no tech specialty, but in the new UI it has a blue tech spec

[shrewd pollen]

Huh. Is it supposed to have a skip? Someone pull out their physical copy

[keen stratus]

so i saw the announcement that the new ui supports some TE.
is there a way to see breakthroughs?

[ebon umbra]

I also don't see the expedition wheel, but I'm maybe looking at the wrong place

[slate rune]

they are in the player card areas

[slate rune]

it should be showing but send me your game id as the positioning was a bit ... uh, tricky

@keen stratus the icon is broken but you can see it there

maybe not showing if not unlocked unsure tbh

[ebon umbra]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd15176

[slate rune]

whats teh game id

[keen stratus]

noone in my game seems to see it on new game

pbd15074

[ebon umbra]

yeah I don't see it on my games either

[slate rune]

im seeing it in your game

err @keen stratus on yours

they are there

@ebon umbra same in your game

i think its not showing if not unlocked yet. I'll fix that.

[ebon umbra]

I don't see it at all

[slate rune]

o right

i have too many views. i think i only added it to the pannable ui ill fix that in like 10 min one sec

[keen stratus]

ooh yeah i dont use pannable

[slate rune]

yea no worries both should be supported

[copper bronze]

Hacan with the adjacent space station 😮‍💨

[slate rune]

hold tight

have fixes for the things coming

[shrewd pollen]

The tokens and icons are not updated 🙁 please update tokens and icons while you're at it?

[upbeat zenith]

'show_game' command canceled. Game name 'bot' is not valid. Execute command in correctly named channel that starts with the game name. For example, for game pbd123, the channel name should start with pbd123-

'show_game' command canceled. Game name 'bot' is not valid. Execute command in correctly named channel that starts with the game name. For example, for game pbd123, the channel name should start with pbd123-

[rustic onyx]

web ui misplaces bt-tokens. mahact has done tech skips not three TGs

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd15256

[slate rune]

Ok thx

[ebon umbra]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd15158

now seeing the expedition wheel in a TF game, I don't think it should be there

it's also kinda awkwardly placed on the map

[void verge]

It looks like the tokens of the expeditions are drifting to places they shouldnt be. for example deepwrought did the tech skip explore but the UI makes it look like they spent tgs

[slate rune]

I'll fix sorry all!

Trick or treating right now but when I get home

[slate rune]

is this still awkwardly placed?

[slate rune]

what's your game id?

[void verge]

Pbd15212 @slate rune

[slate rune]

ty taking a look now

[slate rune]

should be correct now

[keen stratus]

pbd15074 is more messed up

[rustic onyx]

It's not 🙁

[wheat trellis]

I am playing Ral Nel and I really miss easy insight into Data Skimmer content. Id really appreciate something like Cabal Nom Box with acs there

[rustic onyx]

Neatly placed, but in the wrong spots for cabal and mahact

[rustic onyx]

Also smaller bug: I (cabal) am still shown to have one unscored SO in hand even though I discarded it for the BT

[gleaming dawn]

Placement of ingress token on systems containing wormholes may be suboptimal

[ivory glade]

I thought you were not allowed to place ingress in systems with printed wormholes🤔

[ivory glade]

Never mind, that's just for placing thunder's edge

[fading carbon]

TE just moves based on zoom

[shrewd pollen]

In the new ui plots should be face up for

Also they should be sorted by #

I get the feeling these are sorted by name

(if they're random tho thats fine)

I think they're pseudo random but it might be the same random every time because of how the bot works

[open drift]

Can you explain pls what's pseudo random in this bot?

[minor adder]

Most likely hashsets in java appear random but aren't

[shrewd pollen]

They are deterministic yes

[patent temple]

I miss not being able to look at PNs of each faction in my game, being able to click the unpicked strategy cards to enlarge and read them, and click the objectives to have their description show up

[shrewd pollen]

Is it possible to make the website a bit more friendly for keyboard power users with some shortcuts?

I find myself right now wanting to navigate around with just keyboard and I cannot

Stuff like wasd to pan around the map, alt + ? to change tabs, alt + # to change games

right now I have to tab a thousand times to do anything

[minor adder]

Here's where that was last left off
#1382084279575511290 message

[left nexus]

New ui shows wrong completed expedition. I tried refreshes and different zoom levels (which moves the wheel around) but it stayed the same. In the pics you can see that one of them shows firmament on TG (wrong/new ui) and others on SO (correct/old ui) expedition.

[solemn ginkgo]

I know how to move the system to another corner but I guess this is unintentional 🙂

[coral hedge]

just looked. its not supposed to have one

[shrewd pollen]

ok, someone just needs to update the assets in the new ui then

[chilly turtle]

pbd5363: In the new UI, the expedition tracker is in the way of the map. Where it is on the map changes as I zoom in and out, but it's never not covering some tiles. The old UI is fine.

[slate rune]

Yeah I'll fix sorry all

Playing TE today though hahahaha

[last estuary]

Wait, who said you were allowed to go off and have fun?!?

Hope it's a great time!

[chilly turtle]

No worries, just figured I'd report it. Enjoy your game of TE.

[dusty arrow]

Expedition wheel is covering planets, but inf & SD are on top. Maybe the wheel could be shown outside of the play area?

[solemn ginkgo]

Prolly hook it to an empty tile position 🤷‍♂️

[open drift]

idk how you're handling it, but maybe setting the wheel position to a corner, like any spiral tile, would solve the issue?

[prime marlin]

Do decals not work on new UI?

Also seems to be missing special tokens like Rebellion's breaches

[shrewd pollen]

breaches are in new ui

[prime marlin]

I mean reinforcements

Like this

[shrewd pollen]

Ah

[shrewd pollen]

Well, since it can't get any worse, @slate rune I went ahead and merged a fix for the expedition token positioning (the tracker may still get placed over top of tiles, idk)

[slate rune]

Haha amazing

@shrewd pollen did it deploy?

[slate rune]

On the to-do list 😁

[shrewd pollen]

It might take a few minutes idk, I just merged it

[shrewd pollen]

I don't know how to tell if it is deployed/deploying actually

Looks like some github CI worked though

oh yeah, and this is correct now, for my game at least

[prime marlin]

Is there an easy place for me to contribute to the TODO list? I also just noticed Cabal Rift Tokens aren't on the board

[shrewd pollen]

I only pick up the really easy things lol

[novel crow]

this happened with me too 🙁
it showed the wrong expeditions

idk if it is already fixed, but it happened like 20 minutes ago

[shrewd pollen]

I just fixed it like 10 minutes ago

[slate rune]

How'd you fix

[shrewd pollen]

I just changed the angles

[slate rune]

Not at computer ATM

Kk

Is the positioning still borked I think it needs to be put into the zoom container

[shrewd pollen]

Not for my game, but idk

weird things may happen with more rings like in 8p games

[spiral rune]

Just want to report an issue with Oluz Station. It appears as readied in the new UI (wrong) and exhausted in the old UI (correct). Both pictures from the same map generation.

[slate rune]

is this still happening for you?

[chilly turtle]

It was as of 30 minutes ago. I can check again when I'm home in a few hours.

[earnest sphinx]

is it possible to make all faction PN's visible in the web UI? I feel like that's the one thing I'm consistently needing to check in the wiki

[chilly turtle]

Just checked, yes.

Also, not sure if it goes here, or just generally in bots and bugs, but we're still picking strategy cards at the start of the game, and Populate the Outer Rim is one of our objectives, but it's saying that Crimson Rebellion is at 1/3, so I think it's either counting the breach token as a unit or it's counting The Sorrow as the home and not the actual home system.

[slate rune]

What browser device and UI mode

[chilly turtle]

Firefox, and New. Old has been fine. Just checked Edge and Edge is fine.

[slate rune]

Ah okay

Thanks. Yeah Firefox zoom management is very strange. But that gives me enough to correct thanks

[chrome ember]

https://tenor.com/view/well-look-into-it-charlie-hudson-hudson-and-rex-well-figure-it-out-well-see-about-that-gif-24465706

[chilly turtle]

For this, I did swap their home system with Malice's position, so it was on the same side of the board as their slice, so that could be part of the problem.

[slate rune]

this will be fixed in 5 min (deploying)

[dusty arrow]

Crimson Rebellion Exile 2 unit is showing as combat 8 instead of combat 7

[shrewd pollen]

It's correct in the bot, website prolly just needs to update its data

[patent temple]

Hi - can't find anywhere on new UI that shows Promissory Note information - people's own PNs

[slate rune]

promissory notes in hand are not shown anywhere. promissory notes in people's play area are shown in the same location as secret objectives and relics

[patent temple]

Yeah so in old ui you could see what everyone's PNs were so you could read them to know what they did. I can't see where they're located in new ui

Example

[slate rune]

they should be with faction abilities but currently are not. let me see if I can actually add that real quick 😛

[tribal bough]

in TF, Wavelength doesn't seem to appear in the new ui

[slate rune]

yeah TF is probably totally fucked would be my guess for now. use old UI. I'm going to see if I can just entirely disable new UI for TF

need to get TE up running correctly first

@tribal bough what's the game id?

[tribal bough]

pbd15206 , in what's up dock

the map thread uses old ui, i just have several games open in new ui on the website

[slate rune]

seems like faction abilities are also not displaying yeah?

@tribal bough I mean if you want to help me be a guinea pig that'd be amazing haha. I'm doing a TF game here shortly as well 🙂

[tribal bough]

i think all the abilities we drafted display properly, except for the basic wavelength/antimatter. well, no one has antimatter yet, but two people have wavelength and it shows on old ui but not new ui.

i can keep you updated if i notice anything else break

[slate rune]

ah, they display as techs. that makes sense.

[tribal bough]

yeah, and clicking on them gives the proper tf text

[slate rune]

well that's good to know

[tribal bough]

i assume they're programmed in the bot as techs cause that's the easiest way to check 2in2 etc. lol

[slate rune]

yeah

ssweet I'll fix the issue with wavelength not appearing, not a hard thing. let me know if you spot anything else. maybe more compatible than I thought 😄

OK

• Promissory Notes now show in faction abilities
• TF expedition tile placed properly in firefox
• Space Stations now properly show control marker and show when exhausted
• Breach Tokens and Galvanize tokens now show in player areas
• Not leaking plot names anymore.
• Data updated (crimson flagship now shows correct combat value)

New UI still doesn't support galvanize showing but I sleep now. I think most bugs ironed out

[last estuary]

15258 on mobile on newui has the expedition showing the wrong one completed. Ral Nel did SO and on new UI is showing TGs. Map photo in discord correctly showing SO for expedition

[upbeat zenith]

Jazzxhands used /search for_game game_name: pbd15258

Here's the requested channels:
#1433890172885532683
#1433890175104323746

[shrewd pollen]

It looks right to me.. try refreshing your browser window

[slate rune]

What browser?

[last estuary]

The ole did you try turning it off and on again...

Sorry gents

It is working now

[slate rune]

Ok great

[last estuary]

Brave was the browser

[shrewd pollen]

Stale script I bet 🙂

[shut dirge]

It seems like the crimson rebellion's home system is slightly off center as far as unit placement and player highlighting goes.

it happens at multiple zoom levels

[slate rune]

Yeah same issues with mallice actually

But thx for the report. I'll address

[clear cosmos]

Scrolled up a fair bit and didn't see this reported, but on mobile (iphone on ios 26.0.1) map text looks like this. pbd14217
This happens in the safari "web preview" when you click a web link on mobile, Chrome, Brave, and Firefox.

[slate rune]

does it only happen in the web preview? or also when you actually open the ui?

[clear cosmos]

When you say open the ui, you mean on an actual browser right?

It happens in both.

Here's a sc of it in chrome.

[shrewd pollen]

Decals please

[slate rune]

YES. it's about time

ill prioritize thius

[shrewd pollen]

lol who woulda thought, all it takes is a good meme and memephilosopher is on it

[feral bloom]

I found a counterargument. Mallice bombardment shield (due to Conventions of war law) is displayed correctly in New UI, but not in old UI

[shrewd pollen]

Backside of mallice shield*

frontside displays correctly, iirc

[feral bloom]

But both are working in New UI

[shrewd pollen]

Sure

I'm not terribly concerned about the backside of mallice, tbh, but I'll fix it at some point

I think some of the other new legendaries might have a wrong size shield as well

[fading carbon]

Any way to remove the Neutral player from objective hovers but not from the game?

[slate rune]

good shout

[fading carbon]

If you do pick that up, they're also on the useful score breakdown in the objectives tab

[slate rune]

yeah

a lot more improvements to the score breakdown coming soon

[fading carbon]

It's already great, way easier to recall how people scored, looking forward to seeing what's next

[slate rune]

mostly just cleanup a few things with the point tempo are not exactly correct and then also reporting things like who still has sftt, who doesn't, etc. and there might be a few bugs

[red blaze]

New UI doesn't seem to display the Empyrean BT tokens. Tested on Brave and Edge.

[shrewd pollen]

These might not even be getting sent to the website in the data packet

[shrewd pollen]

Could we get a game number please for ref?

[slate rune]

they aren't but robert did build the ui for them

so i can fix that

[red blaze]

Oh sorry, sure. pbd15444

[chilly turtle]

Checked this morning, it's fixed. Thank you.

[patent temple]

Clicking on the public objectives does not show an information box regarding what they are

[tribal bough]

more tf news and probably harder to fix:
drafting a flagship uu (and maybe mech, haven't checked) overrides the text on the popup of the flagship instead of adding to it

[slate rune]

this is partly a data issue hm

thoughts? @shrewd pollen what data should it read

[shrewd pollen]

Oh jeez uhh... Both...?

Not sure how this is overriding etc

[slate rune]

ill check

[ebon umbra]

I don't know if this can even be dealt with, but this makes the rift very easy to miss

[chrome ember]

A special border for rift tiles maybe in order, since TE being placed on rift also makes it hard to see

Somethin like a black and white line around the border, idk

[olive brook]

Faction Progress on "Expand Borders" incorrectly includes home systems.
(Can see that Hacan only owns 2 non-home system planets, but it shows as 5/6 in the UI)
https://asyncti4.com/game/p56tourney6

[minor adder]

infantry count and production are obscured in new ui
https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14447

[slate rune]

cc @chrome ember @shrewd pollen

[slate rune]

yes this is easy to deal with

[slate rune]

do you have a game id?

[slate rune]

bleh, thanks. will fix

@minor adder this is what I got for now. can be improved even some more in a bit here

[chrome ember]

Oh right, I knew I was forgetting something

[shrewd pollen]

Rift decal to go on top of thunders edge

[shrewd pollen]

Hey

Who is this imposter

Using jazz

[slate rune]

i did a funny actually

adding the most useless feature

[shrewd pollen]

Oh lol does it jazz everyone

That would actually be funny and I would need you to leave that in for a bit

[slate rune]

@shrewd pollen

although seems like thed ecals don't work on all units?

[shrewd pollen]

Some of them don't have decorators for small units like PDS and space docks and mechs because it makes those units too hard to "read"

[slate rune]

where is this knowledge stored

[shrewd pollen]

It's stored by lack of an associated file

All the decals have separate files for each unit type....

So if a unit type file isn't there it just doesn't get a decal

Ez

[slate rune]

i guess ill just remove the alt tag

so it doesn't render lol

oh i guess a color try panel would be fun too wouldn't it

and then it gives you the commands

[shrewd pollen]

Anyway, some decals are locked to only be usable by specific users

E.g. jazz decal for yours truly

[slate rune]

where is this knowledge stored 😄

[shrewd pollen]

It's in the code

Uhhh I forget the actual file, but it's buried in some java

Also, the tourney winner decal is kinda dynamic

And broken

Because the winner list got wiped somehow

[slate rune]

lets see if composer can do it ok check the backend some decals are only available to some players can you exclude those from the frontend data

[shrewd pollen]

Just search the codebase for jazzid you'll find it

[slate rune]

i wonder if the number of silly decals is going to go up after this lol

[open drift]

In /g19

On mobile

Cant see objective text anymore

[slate rune]

yea i removed it technically speaking.

[open drift]

Its okay but it would be nice to have it in hover tooltip

[slate rune]

agreed

[open drift]

Also faction trackers arent ordered by position anymore

[slate rune]

i think they are ordered by initiative order

or which faction trackersd?

[open drift]

Not ordered by initiative, I just checked

[slate rune]

iin score breakdown?

[open drift]

There is no score breakdown on mobile, let try pc version

Screenshot of PC version, as I dont actually know what you want me to look for x )

[slate rune]

1/3/5/6/7

[open drift]

Order should be Norr, Crimson, Firmament, Deepwrought, RalNel, Bastion

I meant that orders of trackers in each PO is wrong

Score Breakdown order is good

[slate rune]

oh @open drift i think its alphabetical order

[open drift]

Idk, could be if you named them Bastion, Crimson, Deep, Firmament, Neutral, Ral, Sardakk

But imo it would be nicer in position order

With alpha order I have to go through an additional head mapping

Last thing I want to point out is the mobile player area

Could have totals on the right facing tg/comms/debts
And align planets below them all

[dusty arrow]

Clicking on Warfare in the Player view during TE game shows old warfare description.

[slate rune]

is this desktop mode? whjat you're describing is how its supposed to work

[open drift]

It’s on mobile, but it's not PC version

[minor adder]

Yeah nah, just an apply button

[slate rune]

I guess maybe that's doable if you are logged into discord will look into it

[minor adder]

Once I see enough examples of how to add web->bot interactions, I'll be diving in to add more

[serene stirrup]

Ingress token is hiding the wormhole:

[vapid cedar]

Thunder's Edge is kinda overwhelming on some hexes, like The Watchtower
https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd15445
(red owns the station, copper added in TE)

[craggy granite]

Expand borders in alliance is counting all planets owned by both players including HS https://discord.com/channels/1250131684393881610/1429201326176469163

[shrewd pollen]

Ask about it in #alliance-mode-discussion because I know it should count at least some of the planets, maybe all but idk the alliance rules

[topaz summit]

Just wondering if the Cabals rift should be visible? Is it a UI change perhaps that the token was removed?

The production gear reads correct, and there is an "anomaly" border, but no token.

[slate rune]

are you even allowed to put it where there's a station?

@vapid cedar to be fair this is a problem irl as well 😄

[vapid cedar]

i get it.. on async the planet could be scaled down for example... or just put a marker there and the planet off the main board.. it woudl still be more visible

[vapid cedar]

a station is not a planet, afaik, ti4-rules answered this

[shrewd pollen]

Just you wait till Dane sees what you've done to his game

[ebon umbra]

you can also scale down Dane and put him on the map

[low path]

When trying to login I'm receiving this message. I've tried clearing all local storage, cookies etc. but that hasn't helped.

[slate rune]

hmm

@low path try now

[low path]

Works now after deleting all local storage. Thanks!

[ebon umbra]

would be real cool if this popover had planet traits, especially since planet traits in the user panel aren't doing great
https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd14693

[slate rune]

strange those aren't' showing

[ivory glade]

We are playing with TE but the new UI show description of the old warfare and construction SC. When played the correct card is shown in the action thread, it's only in the UI it is wrong.

[ebon umbra]

We also see the old ones for TF, which is even farther removed from what it actually is 😄

[ivory glade]

@slate rune Have you looked at this? I can confirm no legendary planet ability is shown correctly (always readied) in my games as well when in mobile version of new UI. In desktop version it works though.

[open drift]

small UI weirdness: techs columns have different widthfrom 1 player area to another

[ebon umbra]

I can barely read what it says but it doesn't seem useful

[slate rune]

that's the alt text rendering when an image asset is not rendering. what's the game id?

[ebon umbra]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd15058

[slate rune]

OK. Galvanize and border anomalies (void tether) should be working now.

I'll check out the minor things like data inconsistencies and planet traits missing and other nonsense tomorrow. Thanks for all the reports all

[fading carbon]

I seem to have lost the ability to click on some things on the map? Pop ups aren't working for ships?

[untold flint]

@slate rune May I ask that fixing the issue of the new TE SCs showing on the new UI as the old SC be prioritized? That has been a frequent issue raised by users in the few days that I have seen. Thank you for your wonderful work!

[vapid cedar]

me too, probably a global issue?

[slate rune]

yea i did a large scale refactor of unit code to support galvanize and probably made that mistake. I'llr estore it after I fix the data issues

[slate rune]

will be fixed in the next push, thanks 🙂

[slate rune]

this is the articles of war teardrop on mex. will be fixed in next deploy

[slate rune]

I believe this will be fixed in the next push

[slate rune]

planet traits will be fixed in the upcoming version

[slate rune]

this will be fixed in the next deploy (just had to add the new tile to the list of "avoid wormhole" tiles during unit placement)

[slate rune]

this one will take me a little longer to address but I'll get it resolved probably by tomorrow

thanks for all your reports man

[slate rune]

this should be fixed now ... added support for the void tethers

[red blaze]

Yes, I can confirm that it does!

[slate rune]

fixed now thanks

[slate rune]

ack I've seen this will try to address

[slate rune]

I'm hoping this is resolved, can you check?

[trail violet]

experiencing a bug where all planets are greyed out and some overlay stuff seems to be off-center

e.g. pbd13783

[slate rune]

ah ill figure out the dmz large token.

grey out means its exhausted. can be disabled in settings

i know it partially overlaps with some other features which is annoying but 🤷‍♂️

[trail violet]

ah great, thanks

[ebon umbra]

https://asyncti4.com/game/p70tourney6

the dmz overlay went on a trip

[slate rune]

yea its on vacation 😄

ill fix. i did a full rewrite of some of the core unit laying code

[slate rune]

no longer on a trip

[ebon umbra]

it came home!

[shrewd pollen]

avernus exhaust circle too big

[slate rune]

there's a default legendary radius and it's picking that up. thanks. i'll make it smaller

[slate rune]

game id?

[shrewd pollen]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd15565

[slate rune]

will be fixed next frontend deploy

[quasi charm]

Getting this error when trying to load the webview for game 15391

Other games are fine

[ebon umbra]

you broke it

[slate rune]

ohno

[slate rune]

deploying a solution

[ivory glade]

Yes, looks like it is fixed👍

[slate rune]

deploying a fix sorry (give it like 5 min)

[ebon umbra]

https://asyncti4.com/game/pbd15176 mirage is doing the same thing

the rift is also barely visible there, so it's a double-whammy

[slate rune]

tyty

[slate rune]

yes i have coded tiles that basically avoid those areas but i haven't coded all the new ones yet

[ebon umbra]

I guess another issue is the z index of the circles compared to other tokens

it's fine, but it could be better 😄

[slate rune]

ye its a little rough because there's so much shit lol

mantinaing these z indexes

is making my head hurt

[jolly lark]

The new UI is a bit crowded on my phone

[slate rune]

its an issue only on some phones. i can't' reproduce but i'll take some stbas at fixing.