#TSPmap with SCPT tournament slices

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orchid seal
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I’ve been holding back for a bit but it’s time as I’m down to a single digit number of games and some refuse to end (looking at you 318/382).
Anyway I made a map template to play Milty drafts on them that’s much tighter than a normal map because it’s continuous in all directions. It’s meant for competitive play so I figured a good way to test it is to start three games on it using SCPT tournament slices from this year (qualifier, prelim, semis) and see how they feel. I’ll divide all factions to three group and we can Milty (with one faction in all 3 games).

Who’s with me? Ahh yeah one restriction: I’d like these to be decently fast games as my other testing on this map and for 🥧 turned out very slow. Looking for 15 fast players to crush me on this map. <@&947310962485108816>

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1063317627696594964/1128110273149018192/tspmap_2023.07.10_-_23.47.27.jpg

split dove
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15?

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Oh I can read

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I promise

orchid seal
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People who said they were interested and some usual suspects include: @rose hedge @delicate birch @worthy plank @glass flare @naive sluice @woeful knoll @carmine yoke @lone pelican @burnt thorn @royal nest @split dove
Also notorious fast players @vivid agate @indigo crystal @night forge @night kestrel @austere smelt

glass flare
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Decently fast?

woeful knoll
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DIBSYS

opal pawn
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I’m so beyond interested wow

orchid seal
orchid seal
opal pawn
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I’d wait for the people you pinged first but I give permission to ping and ask me if we can’t find any

orchid seal
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Not like that other game

opal pawn
opal pawn
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Everything else I try to do within the hour

rose hedge
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Sure!

opal pawn
orchid seal
opal pawn
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Really? I was worried I don’t get involved enough in politics

orchid seal
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Or roll for them

opal pawn
orchid seal
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100%

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Just 🚤

kindred drum
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Very Keen if your happy with an Assue in the timezones

tawny laurel
orchid seal
orchid seal
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But the dog pooped

opal pawn
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Alright I’m down for a speedrun game

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Only stall between turns

opal pawn
orchid seal
glass flare
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I don't understand the map layout

delicate birch
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@orchid seal You don't even have to ask, I'm in

opal pawn
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That’s 3 oh no

tawny laurel
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This async?

orchid seal
indigo crystal
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The map might make my brain hurt, but I am a reasonbly fast player

opal pawn
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Imagine doing this over discord in one night

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Lol

orchid seal
orchid seal
opal pawn
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Oh, I can break it 😈

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I typically use three screens to play asynch lol

orchid seal
orchid seal
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Also @low stratus and not sure who else

carmine yoke
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Yeah I’m in

opal pawn
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Without outing anyone I always seem to get in games with players who disappear for days

orchid seal
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For a while I wanted to do it and make the record but now they did it

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Seems not worth it anymore

opal pawn
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I’m in four games in which only one of them I get to play daily

orchid seal
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That’s not allowed on tspmap

opal pawn
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Lol

orchid seal
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I mean you can let us know you’re going away for a few days

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Or whatever

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Have a life

opal pawn
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Right yeah

orchid seal
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Just tell us

opal pawn
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I mean I’m playing arbo in 3 games rn

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So at least my turns are easy and fast

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“Move forward, build, get mecatol”

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Ezy

rose hedge
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Have we started the draft yet?

orchid seal
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Big fan for arbo

royal nest
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I'd play with ya

orchid seal
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Actually just one dog now

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Sicily had to go home she was hot

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This one didn’t want to go home yet

woeful knoll
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Okay how are we mapping the tournament slices onto this map? If we are only two away from Mecatol and neighbors

austere smelt
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is this full yet?

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if not count me in torus map sounds sick

modern burrow
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Let's go!
I'm in

orchid seal
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@glass flare does that help?

orchid seal
indigo crystal
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I feel like that made it worse for my understanding somehow

glass flare
glass flare
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Ooh

austere smelt
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who all is playing so far

woeful knoll
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Oh it's like small bunker almost

austere smelt
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oh wait
3 games

orchid seal
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I made a video about it

worthy plank
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I'm in

orchid seal
tawny laurel
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In

austere smelt
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i saw
torus
go fast
and did not read anything after that, i am very in

glass flare
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I thought it's 3 separate games, all with Spoon?

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Or are we each playing a series of 3 games?

orchid seal
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So far in:

  1. @glass flare I think
  2. @woeful knoll
  3. @opal pawn
  4. @rose hedge
  5. @kindred drum
  6. @delicate birch
  7. @naive sluice (I don’t have to ask)
  8. @carmine yoke
  9. @royal nest
  10. @austere smelt
  11. @indigo crystal
  12. @worthy plank
  13. @split dove (didn’t say he wanted to but I’m saving a spot anyway)
  14. @tawny laurel
  15. @modern burrow
glass flare
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I'm #15!

orchid seal
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Fill

split dove
orchid seal
glass flare
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Fancy

orchid seal
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Then I took you off

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Then I put you back in

glass flare
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I win in advance. Nice.

orchid seal
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Full unless the sandwich backs out

austere smelt
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put all the fast players in the same game so we can finish before the other 2 games even start agendas

orchid seal
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Though two more people can take two of my three greedy spots

orchid seal
vivid agate
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@orchid seal yeah I’m down though don’t understand everyhhung that’s happening here lol

orchid seal
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Too slow

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But ok I’ll squeeze ya in

glass flare
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The one time it counted

vivid agate
vivid agate
split dove
orchid seal
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Only forks for you from now on

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Enjoy that soup!

austere smelt
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if i'm looking at the map correctly, milty tiles 1 and 4 are the equidistants?

delicate birch
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Eventually I will get to a place where no one even asks me anymore, I will just see a new game pop up that I am a player in lol

delicate birch
vivid agate
indigo crystal
opal pawn
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Wait how does this map work

modern burrow
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It's an infinite plane that loops onto itself.

glass flare
delicate birch
vivid agate
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@orchid seal start when?

woeful knoll
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I was worried that @naive sluice wasn't on here but I am relieved to see that he is

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Yeah let's get drafting

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Mentak in every gamr

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But make it franken

thorny karmaBOT
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Ordered items in your list:
  1. @austere smelt, 3. @opal pawn, So far in:, 11. @indigo crystal, 5. @kindred drum, 7. @naive sluice (I don’t have to ask), 15. @modern burrow, 6. @delicate birch, 9. @royal nest, 2. @woeful knoll, 8. @carmine yoke, 4. @rose hedge, 1. @glass flare I think, 13.argo, 14. @tawny laurel, 12. @worthy plank
orchid seal
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Game 1:
@austere smelt @opal pawn @indigo crystal @kindred drum @naive sluice
Game 2:
@modern burrow @delicate birch @royal nest @woeful knoll @carmine yoke
Game 3:
@rose hedge @glass flare @vivid agate @tawny laurel @worthy plank

glass flare
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Bambam!

orchid seal
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Any swap requests?

glass flare
indigo crystal
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Is there a prize for the game that finishes first?

orchid seal
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Can any of the other bot helpers please set up

indigo crystal
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if so I want @vivid agate

orchid seal
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Gotta help my kid

rose hedge
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Smh hiding @royal nest’s home system from me

woeful knoll
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Tispoon has to send us a golden spoon to the fastest game

austere smelt
vivid agate
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Awe you guys 🥰

indigo crystal
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I've never seen someone take speed as such a high compliment

delicate birch
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I guess I'm chopped liver?

glass flare
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No, @vivid agate is with us!

indigo crystal
orchid seal
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Also

indigo crystal
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he's first pick in the "get games done fast" pool

thorny karmaBOT
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Ordered items in your list:

semis, qual, prelim

delicate birch
vivid agate
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Never played with @glass flare or @worthy plank. Seen them on here before though

austere smelt
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hear out my genius idea
the map no longer wraps around onto itself
it wraps around to the other games here

orchid seal
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Game 1 semis slices, game 2 quail slices, game 3 prelim slices

vivid agate
austere smelt
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want to be in a game with argo instead? just move into his game

orchid seal
delicate birch
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lone pelican
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Sure! I’m itching to try Sardak again. . . Or another faction lol

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lone pelican
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So close on the last one.

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I’m very curious to see if the chaos continues. . .

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lone pelican
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lol I was too slow 🙂 guess I’m not fast enough for these games right now lol

low ledge
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This is wild

lone pelican
low ledge
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I muted this channel for a couple days to try to get my game count down 😁

orchid seal
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Ok factions

lone pelican
orchid seal
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And also me in not more than one game

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I wanted a tspmap tournament actually

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But this is testin

glass flare
lone pelican
orchid seal
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Last factions in all games

lone pelican
thorny karmaBOT
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Ordered items in your list:

The Naaz-Rokha Alliance, The Federation of Sol, The Winnu, The Ghosts of Creuss, The Council Keleres, The Empyrean, The Xxcha Kingdom, The Mentak Coalition, The Argent Flight, The Mahact Gene-Sorcerers, The Naalu Collective, The Emirates of Hacan, The Yin Brotherhood, The Embers of Muaat, The Nekro Virus, The Arborec, The Vuil’Raith Cabal, The Nomad, Sardakk N’orr, The Yssaril Tribes, The Titans of Ul, The L1Z1X Mindnet, The Universities of Jol-Nar, The Clan of Saar, The Barony of Letnev

orchid seal
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Letnev in all games

indigo crystal
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NOOOOOOOOO

indigo crystal
orchid seal
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🤷

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Dice don’t lie

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at least it’s not mentak

indigo crystal
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Yeah but I don't hate Mentak (except for what they do to Keleres)

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I do hate Letnev. Like a lot.

lone pelican
lone pelican
orchid seal
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Or most

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So these draft groups will explose me to almost all factions

lone pelican
orchid seal
orchid seal
lone pelican
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But I love those Sardak dreads of you can get them upgraded

orchid seal
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Honestly that was part of the idea

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But boy you did damage with exo2

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I’m embarrassed I forgot about those

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Cost me the game

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Or at least my shot

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Was a silly mistake

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But that’s TI

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You play for 3 months for many hours and then 2 damaged exo blow up 4 super dreads and 4 mechs

lone pelican
# orchid seal Cost me the game

We’ll Sardak dread 2 don’t pop up in a lot of games. So not that remembering isn’t that big a whiff. Mine was not going for Saar on that last move .

lone pelican
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To be fair I would have just used the ceasefire if I thought you could win

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Although you had another target of in remember correctly

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L1 can be quite troublesome.

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I think bwest would have won if he had kept playing instead of assuming it was over. Who would have guessed it went to like 7 rounds on a 10 pointer !

orchid seal
normal slate
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Yeah, that game was a blast, but super exhausting

orchid seal
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They’re like in my top 2-3 factions

orchid seal
royal nest
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We got arborec in our game, suckers

glass flare
orchid seal
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Wonder if people think it’s better or worse for ‘slower’ factions

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No blue tech start, hard to get capacity with movement etc

normal slate
# orchid seal Yeah it dragged

The map is awesome though. Definitely changes up the dynamic of the game. Fist and I both feel like it also reduces the importance of speaker, just a little bit, which is a good thing

orchid seal
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Just a tad

normal slate
# orchid seal Just a tad

Yeah just enough that you can still have a fighting chance, even when you are in 6th in speaker order

lone pelican
normal slate
normal slate
lone pelican
naive sluice
naive sluice
orchid seal
royal nest
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Yeah, I subbed in basically in last place, assisted with winslaying the bare minimum while @orchid seal burned himself out, then snuck out the classic yssaril round 7 (8?) win

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Wait

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Did I win?

orchid seal
orchid seal
lone pelican
normal slate
orchid seal
orchid seal
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But yeah it’s complicated

royal nest
orchid seal
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More testing

glass flare
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Every time I see that 🙋 I feel bad for Fist

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Like a kid sitting alone in a classroom, raising his hand patiently

royal nest
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Yeah, round 8 BaM win

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What a game

lone pelican
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Or I guess we could just bludgeon @orchid seal into a fourth game for the show pokes lol

normal slate
normal slate
royal nest
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Oh god

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PBDTSPMAP tournament

lone pelican
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So in the next round he’s playing 3 factions against himself lol

royal nest
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Yep

normal slate
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Definitely!

royal nest
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Or we all winemake him and he plays the 6p game all by himself

lone pelican
royal nest
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Assuming we make 3 more games for a proper tournament

orchid seal
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Stop it

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3 games starting at the time it’s already too much for me

lone pelican
orchid seal
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I don’t like starting at the same time

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But @lone pelican @normal slate can have a slow poke game with @burnt thorn

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And I guess I’ll play but we’ll start tomorrow

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Or something

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Idk

normal slate
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Yeah that would work for me

lone pelican
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There’s a party of me that what’s to see 6 factions playing on this . . . But everyone has the Sardak commander. . .

orchid seal
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Oops all sardakk

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ButI’mgonna start the pbd tournament 2 soon

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But that would be normal style

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But after that I was thinking tspmap tournament

delicate birch
glass flare
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And hour and a half later and I'm finally like, oh....

orchid seal
glass flare
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Give me another couple hours and I'll get it

orchid seal
orchid seal
royal nest
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Are you sure that's a slow poke game?

split dove
delicate birch
orchid seal
low ledge
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4th game as part of this game?

orchid seal
low ledge
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👍

delicate birch
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@orchid seal does that give you 5 or 6 for TSPmap4?

orchid seal
burnt thorn
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sure count me in

flat silo
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Damn being in the wrong part of the hemisphere!

versed shadow
solar bramble
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but i’ll probably be in the US for half of it…

flat silo
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@lean cliff we could maybe combine the thread for your other game with the folks here, bada and shandi, would make 6 if the kind and venerable @orchid seal doesn't mind setting up yet another game.

golden hull
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I'm down to try it

orchid seal
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there are at least two more games herre if someone wants to organize them

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starting three games at the. same time last night meant my brain is at capacity for a bit

solar bramble
lean cliff
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We have still 2 other players from my other thread

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So we would be at 7

flat silo
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Pick a 6 from them, if need be I'll drop. I've other games. Gets a game going which is good.

lean cliff
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To be honest I would be out I´m at the moment only interessted in FOW Games

delicate birch
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TSPmap4
@orchid seal
@lone pelican
@normal slate
@oblique wing
@burnt thorn
@low ledge

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TSPmap5
@flat silo
@solar bramble
@golden hull
@versed shadow
5.
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@orchid seal do you want to be part of this one since it's EU?

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I will wait for confirmation before setup

burnt thorn
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ooo fresh meat… and @oblique wing

oblique wing
normal slate
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Will be a good group/game

orchid seal
lone pelican
lone pelican
orchid seal
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Unless I missed it and finals slices are out

lone pelican
orchid seal
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We can use scpt slices from last year or wait for finals

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Or just do random Milty

lone pelican
lone pelican
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orchid seal
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OOPS

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I think I made a big mistake

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Can’t look at it now tho

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No it’s fine

orchid seal
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so @royal nest I can add tiles in the spots where there are red backed tiles now (here empty) and change the h yperlanes

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in fact that's how it was in a previous version of the map

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the result would mean that everyone will have an alternative route to mecatol that is 3 tiles long

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but it will also mean that mecatol has 8 tiles adjacent (yay intimidate ocuncil)

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and 2 more tiles than a normal map

royal nest
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Hmmm...

royal nest
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instead

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or this rather

split dove
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What are you trying to fix?

orchid seal
orchid seal
# royal nest

that would still just add more tiles adjacent to mecatol

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and will give positions 2356 two routes of 2 tiles to mecatol

orchid seal
royal nest
orchid seal
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or I was looking at the left side and you were looking at the right side

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yes I need that

royal nest
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I think there may be a more elegant solution without needing a new tile though

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I just need to think on it more

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Like you could do this... to get rid of the vertical lines

orchid seal
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it is ugly

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I had that before

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but then

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not sure why I took it away

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it's good actually to make 5 adjacent

royal nest
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looks like a little spider web

orchid seal
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that's good regardless

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should do it right away for TSPmaps

royal nest
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just trying to reach an elegant solution to get rid of the x hyperlanes in this

rose hedge
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Game 3 already in the agenda phase 👀

tawny laurel
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Actually once spoon responds we are half way through agenda

royal nest
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this is similar, but different layout, still has an X but it's a prettier X

tawny laurel
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And nobody took tech round one

orchid seal
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though maybe I need to see it in a larger context

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I like this

royal nest
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We can do that, might want @cyan moat to make it prettier

royal nest
versed shadow
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I'm down for anything

cyan moat
versed shadow
orchid seal
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TSPmap5
@flat silo
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5.
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versed shadow
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<@&947310962485108816>

flat silo
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I've just started a few so will step out of this one for now.

stone remnant
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Is this still open?

golden hull
stone remnant
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Well count me in

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hey @reef basalt want, like, peak weird

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True pacman

reef basalt
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Uh, yeah I'm in if you need one more.

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I'm not EU but I'm always here and I don't sleep.

delicate birch
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Tspmap5
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If you don’t care about the TZ too much and want someone that can help with the setup I can join if you don’t find someone else

royal nest
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Mathematical representation of tspmap

versed shadow
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welcome to join

delicate birch
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unique cedar
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This all full?

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Watched the video on this and definitely interested

orchid seal
unique cedar
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Wow, well I'm interested the next time things open up, does this need a GM to function that sees everything?

orchid seal
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A bit of a pain to set up after milty but once you get the hang of it, it’s not so bad

austere smelt