OHD Vehicle Overhaul

[bold sparrow]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM2Ve3YaT/

[regal turret]

hey yoshi are u a ludwig enjoyer ?

[solar basalt]

Yoshi you adding swimming cats to this mod? (Pls do it)

[weary lark]

no but anyone know where i can get like free ww2 and ww1 era vehicles that aren't ripped?

i don't want ripped shit in my mod

[torn magnet]

sketchfab?

I dont think you should have ww1 vehicles in the mod imo

https://sketchfab.com/search?q=ww2+vehicles&type=models

https://sketchfab.com/search?q=ww1+vehicles&type=models

https://sketchfab.com/kadopl looking on sketch fab this guy has some american and german ww2 vehicles you can buy

[weary lark]

ye big thank

idk it seems to be hard to find models that would actually work in a game

like every model is either super low poly or like 3million tris

maybe i can get the high poly models and remove some of their tris somehow

[jagged spire]

this will help

[weary lark]

ye the decimate thing

i tried that in blender for the LODs

they were too weird

maybe i can mess with them more

or just use the engine to create LODs and use those as the default

instead of the 3 million tri version

[jagged spire]

ya, that could've worked.

[torn magnet]

@weary lark placing rally points doesnt work even if the setting to place them is enabled on a role

oh sorry, I was playing in singleplayer and had access to use the role but didnt create a squad

sorry for pinging you

[weary lark]

It's the vanilla rally system that I just enabled. It was disabled because it didn't work. I just enabled it but haven't touched it.

[torn magnet]

it does work sorry

I just wasnt a actual squad leader but had the role in sp

btw for anyone trying to make deploying rallypoints possible for a role this screenshot shows how

[bold sparrow]

When is new vehicle coming ? And wich may we see a small leak?

[bold sparrow]

say no more here u go

[bold sparrow]

Honestly just add it

[jagged spire]

LMAO wtf someone actually made a 3D model of it.

[dire epoch]

[torn magnet]

greatest eurpeon aircraft

[weary lark]

@bold sparrow

B O A T

Landing craft will be functional, meaning you can put vehicles in them and float around the water

hopefully

[regal turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/93829266994638848/1129023822276866118/Operation__Harsh_Doorstop_2023-04-27_10-57-45.mp4
incoming

[serene hare]

S P I N

[bold sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-record-cat-gif-21749933

[weary lark]

I'm adding smaller vehicles first like MRAPs and BRDMs since those are easier+people want them+they fit better with the smaller maps

then prob play with boats, I'll literally just give them invisible wheels.

Then heavy vehicles like the BMP-2M above

Maybe even give it a rapid fire mode like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/b6wdlq/video_bmp_2_fullauto_fire_causes_fire_and_fumes/

[analog raft]

@weary lark Is the interior something you made? if so it looks amzing

[weary lark]

No it's Vigilante

[analog raft]

idk what that is but looks awesome haha

[weary lark]

Ya I want interiors so bad it looks so damn cool. The only game that does interiors like this is Arma 3, but Arma is you know, Arma

[analog raft]

RO2 has tank interiors too

[weary lark]

And I've made the interiors performant, so it won't tank your FPS

[analog raft]

and doesnt PR modding have it as well?

not pr PS

[weary lark]

Idk

How does RO2 look?

[analog raft]

Better then triple A already ahah

[analog raft]

Ill find some screen shots

[weary lark]

ya I think just the models rn with the default game are already better than RO2 and Arma 3 fidelity wise

definitely

[analog raft]

Here are these three, I dont wanna clog up your mod with this

[weary lark]

Ya the firing port is an insane level of detail

I wish one day to have fully functional firing ports for the BTRs with animations where you put your gun into it.

[analog raft]

Imagine going down the road with your homies in the BTR, next you know you the soul survivor and everyone else is dead inside the interior haha

[weary lark]

ya lol

It's so much fuckin' effort though omg

^ One day lol

[analog raft]

@weary lark If anyone is going to do it in a free game its going to be you guys for sure

[weary lark]

ye

[dire steppe]

i cant find this mod in multiplayer

[weary lark]

It's "OHD Overhaul [Vehicles]!"

On the workshop

[analog raft]

make sure you looking at modded servers on the game

[weary lark]

There should be some servers hosted by "The Real Invasion" with this mod.

[dire steppe]

thanks guys

[weary lark]

If you can't find any servers to play on you can always play in single-player. This mod works on both specifically for this reason 😄

[dire steppe]

i cant find the mod in menu singleplayer

[analog raft]

one day the mods will be so advanced you won't need muliplayer haha

[analog raft]

gotta install it on the steam workshop

[weary lark]

It's uses a gamemode called "Tweaked AAS"

[dire steppe]

thanks again🙏🏻

[torn magnet]

oh thats like the pavlov vehicles

its so cool to control a tank in vr in pavlov vr

[dire steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/drive-by-bike-motorcycle-gun-shoot-gif-11751143

[weary lark]

MRAP WIP

[dire steppe]

3rd person cam please

[weary lark]

single player only

[dire steppe]

how do i switch third person mode in sg

[weary lark]

no I meant I'm only going to add it in singleplayer when I do

Because third-person cameras in multiplayer is insanely OP

[dire steppe]

yea🤣

[jagged spire]

Technical plz

[weary lark]

screw that stupid damn thing

[weary lark]

Another progress update:

MRAP is fully functional, just need to add some seated animations.
BRDM has a full interior, gonna have fun with this one.

[dire steppe]

how can i move stuck vehical

[weary lark]

F2

[shy nest]

Squad?

[shy nest]

Do they work in multiplayer?

[bold sparrow]

I love brdm

I even have a lego moc from it

[weary lark]

F2 works in multiplayer only if you are a squad leader

[weary lark]

OHD silly goose

[shy nest]

No. I mean the model 🗿

[tough pollen]

Hello

and some bmp or mrap will be in fashion

[shy nest]

They are being added

[weary lark]

vigialnte

[dire steppe]

doesnt work

[jagged spire]

You have to be a squad leader.

[dire steppe]

thanks mate

[dire steppe]

how can i select vehicle type when spawning

[jagged spire]

You can't

[dire steppe]

noted

thanks for the help guys. i really like this mod

[weary lark]

Better handling for vehicles + chase camera (single player only)
https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeXVudW1oMDA4dTZ4OG0xN3JsbjNhNDB0d3lyZ3Q4cGtkcmR5dXNhNyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/xAHb2xRKqzRWGUzrcv/giphy.gif

[dire steppe]

what about infantry cam

[jagged spire]

What?

[dire steppe]

3rd person cam

[solar basalt]

there is a 3rd person mod already

[dire steppe]

cant play with this mod duh

[solar basalt]

yeah, while mods like 3rd person are treated gamemodes thats how its gonna be.

[dire steppe]

shoots

[solar basalt]

yeah it can be annoying

[dire steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/hobbit-lotr-bilbo-baggins-frodo-my-precious-gif-3576405

[tough pollen]

I don't want to upset you, but this is not a battleship, but a brdm or mess, as it is called in the army

[weary lark]

?

ik it's called a brdm

[jagged charm]

could be a translation issue

[weary lark]

prob ya

[jagged charm]

it's tough because not everyone using a cyrllic user name is even non-western or in need of translation usage

[weary lark]

Going to release the BRDM and MRAP update within the next few days. Just some finishing shibbs to do.
No animated interiros for the BRDM as it's animation heavy and not very important atm.

[lime zodiac]

[regal turret]

i was thinking, you know people have found out your super secret keybinds

a thing i do, is check if the PC is admin
so his steam id is listed in the .cfg

[severe pendant]

Yoshi got MIA after his announcement

[regal turret]

nah

[lime zodiac]

Come on yoshi

[oblique cradle]

bro forgor💀

[bold sparrow]

Where is the brdm

I need it 😔

[regal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[weary lark]

pulled the classic modder move of promising too much too early. everyone has to do it at some point

going to let the mod bake in the oven for a bit more, not feeling the SDK right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQlzcpdxr9U&ab_channel=Cato

[regal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-this-is-not-gif-19588770

[serene hare]

not me, im perfect, ive never done this, and dont say https://discord.com/channels/93829266994638848/1050301021731180554

[dire steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-boba-fett-shaking-my-head-nope-no-gif-18675200

[analog raft]

@weary lark I hope the break helps man! If u ever need anything im here

[solar basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/frantic-ah-spongebob-chores-gif-4322909

[jagged spire]

do you have any plan on adding WW2/WW1 vehicles?

[weary lark]

ye

ww1

[jagged spire]

Slam fire?

[weary lark]

ye

it would just be 'automatic'

for the shotgun

[jagged spire]

you could just remove the pumping animation and replace the shooting animation with the pumping one.

and it'll look like this.

[jagged spire]

dron plz

[weary lark]

Meow

When meow

Im not feelin ohd in the slightest

No vehicles at all rn

But

Cat

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-gif-23521077

[jagged spire]

[shy nest]

[serene hare]

[weary lark]

Im gonma take a dump today btw

Cant wait

Fuck

Couldnt wait

Came out too early

Now they are trying to kick me out

Of target

[regal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-for-the-visual-tmi-disgusting-nasty-eww-gif-26476876

[oblique cradle]

most sane OHD mod developer

[jagged charm]

https://tenor.com/view/loud-house-loud-house-gifs-nickelodeon-todays-the-day-saturday-gif-8631673

[jagged spire]

Meow

[weary lark]

[PAUSED] OHD Overhaul [Vehicles]!

[torn magnet]

😱

[weary lark]

@here Mom has passed away.

All progress on the mod is halted until further notice.

[jagged charm]

Condolences 🙏

[oblique cradle]

Wow... Take care ❤️🙏

[novel rapids]

Is there any way I can create guns with those features? If something like weapon blueprints are available to use.

[regal turret]

not yet, maybe, but which feature exactly, you can probably replicate

[jagged spire]

I'm sorry for your loss. Take your time Yoshi🙏

[novel rapids]

Thank you

[serene hare]

Aw man I'm so sorry to hear that. Take as much time as you need, we'll be here if you need us

[floral shale]

I’m sorry for your loss, like ponch said we’ll be here when your ready.

[severe pendant]

I'm sorry to hear that yoshi, mine rested almost a year from now, I know the feeling, take your time.

[weary lark]

OHD Overhaul [Vehicles]!

[jagged spire]

Meow

MEOW

[weary lark]

MEOW

[oblique cradle]

we are so back

[weary lark]

@here What land vehicles do you humans want to see in the mod?
Plus any suggestions on things that are not mainly cosmetic, like sounds and FX, since they are all placeholder.
These are the vehicles currently in the game:

Stryker
LAV
BTR-82A
BTR-80

WIP vehicles:

MRAP
BRDM

I'm thinking I'm going to do 1 or 2 vehicles max cuz I don't want to get burnt out. But I don't want to spend a fubb ton of time on something no one cares for.

[regal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/more-feature-more-sales-sales-product-product-management-project-management-gif-17506039

[floral shale]

https://tenor.com/view/bumpy-ride-rough-car-black-and-white-gif-15802522

[restive drum]

Would be cool if you made for vehicle gameplay thing where you need 2 people like one will drive and other will shoot

[weary lark]

Already a thing, I can just enable/disable it

[lime zodiac]

Yis plz, more team-work

(my opinion)

[weary lark]

ye i like this

[severe pendant]

Battleships soonTM

[wet void]

How bout a HUMVEE and a tiger the Russian armored car? Not to complicated and it would be nice to be able to go around the map easier

[wet void]

Honestly just make the variants without the mounted guns even les work

[oblique cradle]

Yeah a Russian 'Tigr' would be cool, a good opposition to the mrap

[lime zodiac]

I agree

[weary lark]

i like this ye

[lime zodiac]

Shut up and

[weary lark]

progress

M E O W

[jagged spire]

MRAP

[floral shale]

Do you want any help testing this stuff?

[weary lark]

ye that would be big helpful

maybe in a couple days i'll be ready to test out some stuffs

[jagged spire]

gib mod access plz

[weary lark]

feature creep time, trying to make vehicles spawnable

god help me

[floral shale]

Let him cook

[weary lark]

Vehicles can now be spawned on.

@celest marten

[serene hare]

thats fucken dope dude

[restive drum]

Damn nice

[oblique cradle]

awesome!

[floral shale]

Just try this one or something and make it deploy by pressing z so it can’t move and be a spawn

Unless you want that

[floral shale]

Dam I’m so behind on your progress

[jagged spire]

Battlefield

[celest marten]

That's actually dope, when are we gonna test?

[jagged spire]

next week sunday pls

[oblique cradle]

today.

[floral shale]

today

[wet void]

today !111

[analog raft]

Dev server?

[jagged spire]

next sunday plz

[analog raft]

Just do a week long test, starting today, ending Sunday haha

[jagged spire]

smort

[floral shale]

week long war

[jagged spire]

Goom

[serene hare]

Goomium

[jagged spire]

Goomies

[weary lark]

feature creeeeeeeeep

[weary lark]

Spawning for vehicles works fine now.
I think at the moment I will just add an in-combat system like battlefield, where you can't spawn in the vehicle if it's getting fucked up.
Letting people spawn on APCs/IFVs is probably horribly unbalanced, but it's fun in the moment and I can take notes for when I actually balance it.
It will be like when you couldn't kill BTRs with rockets, and one person is just camping inside the passenger seat with the PKM killing everyone, that shit was hilarious.

Just need to fix up some stuffs I did to the ADS system, cuz I broke the leaning.
Also need some UI-tweaks for the MRAP and BRDM, I can just re-use the UI from the other vehicles since they all have the same weapons.

After that I think it should be update-ready, aka not completely broken.

[jagged spire]

3AM updates

[regal turret]

did you mess with HDPoiData ? i mean had to replace it, or just made the vehic a child of something listed in HDpoiData ?

[oblique cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/bumpy-ride-rough-car-black-and-white-gif-15802522

[floral shale]

Where you able to fix not being able to move when exiting the vehicle? @weary lark

[weary lark]

Ye, did some scuffed shit, aka just respawns you when you leave the vehicle.💀

[floral shale]

leave the vehicle as a new man

[floral shale]

when are you trying to test them

[weary lark]

wed-nes-day or frydai

[floral shale]

okay

[serene hare]

close enough is good enough lol

[weary lark]

Added separate data table for POI.

Need to get icons for the vehicles on the map.

I wonder if I can use the icons from PR, idk if that is ok.

[regal turret]

😬 redo em'

[regal turret]

inconvenient

[weary lark]

ok

[regal turret]

ya even though you might not risk anything, it just is a big no no in modding to rip stuff

(ik there are some places where they do it, but it doesnt mean it's okay 🙂 )

[weary lark]

No I'm don't want ripped stuff in my mod, like there was someone who made other icons for the vehicles in PR. I wanted to ask him.

I don't want other peoples things in my mod if they are not aware of it.

[floral shale]

Are you making icons for them on the map, I mean I can make you some basic one or something if you need

[weary lark]

ya that is what i need

but honestly it's like not really important

i can just have a thicc circle to represent a vehicle

since everything else on the map is a circle

[serene hare]

you could make it a large triangle or octagon instead of the circle just so that it is nice and easy to distinguish

[weary lark]

ye

[regal turret]

y not like squad, each icon represent the vehic(dont even know if u can, prob though)

[weary lark]

ye i want that

more effort tho

[regal turret]

ye i feel u

later on

[floral shale]

Something like this one

[jagged spire]

tissue box

[floral shale]

Yup

[weary lark]

Super random question

What do you guys think of female soldiers

Like them being different from male soldiers

health/hitboxes/weapon sway/recoil control/stamina

i don't think many people would play it tbh, but i wanna experiment.

@here

[jagged spire]

do what you want

[hard harness]

I do want to see female soldiers in the game, but I don’t think they should be drastically different. Maybe slightly so, not too much.

[oblique cradle]

why tho

[wet void]

bros before hoes

[minor moat]

In my personal option, they should probably be the same compared to male soldiers. Due to making female soldiers different in terms of heath and etc will cause gameplay issues. Like example, GTA, female characters has a max health of 175 vs 200 for male models. This makes anyone using a female model has a disadvantage when in shootouts or normal gameplay.

[weary lark]

Was going to start revamping half the shooting mechanics, then realized I have ADHD.
Just going to focus on vehicle stuffs for the time being.

I'm thinking of giving the vehicles different damage models and adding component damage.

[jagged spire]

I want PTSD effect

[weary lark]

This way you are incentivized to shoot the vehicles in weak spots.
Because right now as long as you hit it the full damage will be done.

I'm thinking of adding an ammo rack first, then engine health and wheel health.

Plus I want to solve some collision issues with the vehicles and the players

So the bots don't randomly flip the vehicles.

[regal turret]

yeah, damage models, and different infantry AT would be nice, mines also. Smoking the vehicle (to counter the people shooting from inside)
some kind of balance 😉

[weary lark]

Was also thinking of making the russian vehicles weaker to AT since every passenger can shoot infantry

or potentially being able to kill crew without destroying the vehicle, specifically for the passengers

[regal turret]

gonna be hard, you mean with small arms ?
or AT that doesnt hit critical compo of the vehic, doing dmg to occupants ?

im worried its not gonna ''''''feel''''' good to be shot out of the vehic, you know people kinda feel invincible in vehics

(not defending the choice but) in squad heli pilo were invinc , even if the glass isnt supposed to be bullet proof, you couldnt kill them cauz , idk maybe people complained, or it was a problem when bleeding (no medic at base, idk )

maybe nerf them a bit, like ammo count, like long reload, small angle of fire

[weary lark]

No only AT will do damage to occupants on the BTR

[regal turret]

kk

[weary lark]

ye and it would have some RNG

wouldn't always kill occupants

just there is a chance

so the APC doesn't really surve it's purpose under heavy fire, you are not completely safe inside it

but the BTR is also faster, and can deal with infantry better

[regal turret]

higher chance if you are in a PKP spot, lower if you are safe in the back 😉

[weary lark]

ye

[regal turret]

yeye after you can balance between vehics and have pro/cons

[weary lark]

ye

[regal turret]

gotta find the right mechanics 😉

[weary lark]

1 to 1 vehicles with different skins would be simplest

but i wanna experiment

i like asymmetrical gameplay

[regal turret]

yeeee, hard to balance 😄

[weary lark]

ye

i was watching GDC talk on game balance

[regal turret]

can already hear 'so and so is OP'

[weary lark]

they said that it's always good to give things trade-offs

like you make the vehicle super OP in one aspect, but shit in another

like lots of firepower, but shit armor

even squad does this with the russian vehicles

[regal turret]

yup in athena, we thought of making vehics literal glass canon, to make them afraid of other vehic and inf, so that they would act more as combined arms and support their INF

spawning on them, with condition (far from flag, only when the SL request , acting like a rally,not moving)

[floral shale]

Like a deploy feature

[fathom pine]

Just play IRL a bit more

[weary lark]

Attempting to cook mod

We will see what the Unreal gods have in store for us

[jagged spire]

update

[weary lark]

Cook just took fucking 45 minutes to fail

Skill issue

COOK WORKED

My crossaint has been buttered

[weary lark]

Mod is updated

NOTE: MRAP is bugged, forgot to set the projectile class, aka it doesn't shoot ...

Plus rangefinder is not enabled.

Also sway is fucked, way to fast when on low stamina

will fix these ^

[jagged spire]

any plan on adding M4 Sherman?

[weary lark]

oh ya

not anytime soon,

but oh ya

all the vehicles

[oblique cradle]

every single one

[weary lark]

No need to fear, BRDM is here!

lol

[jagged spire]

how 2 spawn?

[weary lark]

wym

[weary lark]

they spawn at main, with all the other vehicels

[jagged spire]

I only found bradley

wait,

my bad

somehow i have the old version one in the 'Mods' folder

[solar basalt]

Miata in OHD?

https://tenor.com/view/miata-wink-gif-5311718

[jagged spire]

nerdiest Mazda car

[torn magnet]

gran turino in ohd 💀

https://tenor.com/view/gran-turismo-movie-david-harbour-orlando-bloom-based-on-a-true-story-gif-17562014837220881924

[wet void]

@weary lark bugs ive found as of the lastest update 1.When you fully Zoom in with the stryker when you in the gunner sight your controls lock wont be able to look around after you fullly zommed in it takes a couple of sec s for it to happen 2.When the vehicles spawn they sometimes get flung and or start moving forward or backwards on their own the sec a match starts 3. The F2 ability to move vehicles with dosent seem to work on the MRAP and BRDM 4. Ammo dosent get used upp anymore on vehicles in terms of thier main armement

[jagged spire]

is it on SP or MP?

[wet void]

SP

[jagged spire]

not a server issue then

[wet void]

The wipers are also in the way on the MRAP

[floral shale]

It’s in case it rains in the desert

[jagged spire]

it could've been used to wipe sands on the windows.

[weary lark]

Was aware of all but the first, big thank.

[weary lark]

Why not

[torn magnet]

omg gran turnio the game in ohd

[weary lark]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-helicopter-tank-flying-tank-soldier-gif-17054649

[weary lark]

@wet void
Everything but the spawning is fixed. Spawning is kind of borked on some of the maps, need to fix.
Also the ammo counts are fubbed in offline mode, but they do infact deplete afaik.

[jagged spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1110291763941355691/1160319594356035725/pogtasty.gif?ex=65343ad4&is=6521c5d4&hm=365c1cab376c8c8d0fe900abbff0b8e361e32c66d15d4d691e6d0dd48510787f&

[oblique cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[jagged spire]

found this menu on the old version of Tweaked ASS.

[weary lark]

ye

old squad UI

TRI servers were having issues with Tweaked AAS, effecting other servers. Shut down now.

[weary lark]

Component damage

[weary lark]

more in-depth shibbs

[jagged spire]

we're getting closer to 1 rpg shot kill.

[weary lark]

they are already here with Ponchovies mod.

[jagged spire]

uhh for some reason I'm no longer able to explode C4 that are being placed before entering the vehicle.

[weary lark]

Armour mesh

[lime zodiac]

Antennen physics when

[wet void]

you mean antenna physics?

[lime zodiac]

SHUT

[wet void]

I know where you live

[jagged spire]

Earth

[wet void]

The new increased zoom makes pointe aim look realy good with your mod especially pistols @weary lark

[weary lark]

Adding armour slope damage stuffs

This means sloped armour is 'stronger' since the projectile has more to go through

so 15mm armour is more like 20-40mm at really extreme angles

https://tenor.com/view/armorpen-spall-armor-spall-tank-armor-spalling-gif-26594896

[weary lark]

More vehicle armour

[torn magnet]

space ships

[floral shale]

dam

[oblique cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/war-planes-tanks-gravity-broken-gif-26202635

[hardy shard]

how to join

[weary lark]

Experimenting with penetration

Nothing flashy to show yet, but I got some math printing to the console lol.

[jagged spire]

been enjoying the arty strikes

loves it

[wet void]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-catcry-gif-19131995

i dont even know how to use it

[jagged spire]

skill issue

[serene hare]

Just blast the radio at spawn with random beeps enough times, it'll work eventually

[wet void]

Ok will try

[latent iris]

little bug i noticed when playing single player mode

[regal turret]

nothing to worry about, it's the aliens communicating

(it's a known projectile tracer problem, for some reason it only happens in mods 🤷‍♂️ )

[latent iris]

aw ok

also sound when driving goes away

[wet void]

still waiting for the sex mod

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-patiently-bored-mr-bean-rowan-atkinson-gif-15961738

[oblique cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-18120019

[weary lark]

I need to fix, it gets slightly quieter as the RPM spikes up.

[jagged spire]

you would just miss the target lol

[serene hare]

that would be if the radio aimed the strike, right now it just fires into the center of the world, everytime

[weary lark]

i scuffed something, it depends on map. rn you give it two numbers 0-9, then it uses that to aim the arty but idk i might of fubbed it up

[weary lark]

Got engine health working

It "scales" the engine torque based on the engine health

So you can now engine a vehicle

[floral shale]

What

[weary lark]

what

?

The engine will perform like shit if it is damaged

[floral shale]

Dam your very far along

[weary lark]

big thank

[floral shale]

You got the spawns working on them

[weary lark]

i like this in-the-weeds stuffs, making everything super in-depth and complicated

ye

[weary lark]

already working, you can try it rn

[floral shale]

[weary lark]

• i made an "in-combat" mechanic

like in battlefield

you can't spawn on it if it is being shot at

or moving fast

i added the speed limit for spawning because it would be OP to have a vehicle zoom by and 10 people spawn out of it

[floral shale]

Good that’s more then battlefield did

[weary lark]

I'm going to do ammo racking

And also fuel tanks

Like if you hit the fuel tank it won't be able to drive, and might catch fire

[floral shale]

Okay any plans to have it need fuel

[weary lark]

And passenger damage

[weary lark]

prob will just be like ammo

won't really deplete that much unless it's shot at

[floral shale]

Is there a way to restock both

[jagged spire]

please make the BTR have to reload every 20 shots. It's much more realistic

[weary lark]

huh

i thought it had like 300 rounds what

[weary lark]

ya prob just be at main base or something

ik you have to like open up the top of the turret to reload it, that might be an interesting mechanic

[jagged spire]

oh, nvm you're right.

[weary lark]

same thing with the AGTMs for BMP-2s and Bradleys

ya 300 rounds is a fuckton

kind of OP

[weary lark]

I'm trying to outline what features I want to add to the vehicle health system.
LMK if you like/dislike anything and I'll tweak/add/remove features.
These are some of the notes I came up with:
`

• Engine health:
  5 *> Scales engine inputs based on health. A dead engine means forward/reverse
  6 *> inputs are ignored. Also hitting the engine has a chance of shutting it
  7 *> off. Turning the engine on takes time like in Squad, but now if it is
  8 *> at less than full health the turn on time takes longer.
  9 * Ammo health:
  10 *> Depletes ammo every time it is shot. Under 50% health, it starts cooking
  11 *> off, depleting over time until all ammo is gone. Depending on the vehicle,
  12 *> this may do nothing, or kill it as the ammo has detonated.
  13 *> Certain vehicles have fire extinguishers to handle ammo detonation,
  14 *> ones that do will have the fire extinguishers turn on after a set delay.
  15 * Fuel tank health:
  16 * > Normal driving takes fuel to move the vehicle. The lower the engine
  17 * > health, the more fuel it requires to move the same distance. Hitting
  18 * > the fuel tank will deplete some of it. If fuel goes to 0, then the engine
  19 * > will shut off. The fuel can also catch fire and/or leak if it is hit
  20 * > and/or below a certain health percentage. Using engine smoke also depletes
  21 * > the fuel tanks.
  22 * Crew health:
  23 *> Line traces are done so simulate the projectile traveling through the
  24 *> vehicle. Each seat has a percentage chance if hit with the trace to kill
  25 *> any occupant inside said seat.
  26 * All types of health can be regenerated/healed at main base.`

[regal turret]

Engine health:
i like the scaling of engine speed based on health , cool idea. tough i would (test) with a lower limit, like the engine stop working at all when <30% or something, it might be frustrating at very low speed.

turning it on taking longer, hmmm im not sure how i feel

Ammo health:
do you have a system in place to rearm ? (even without the feature of depleting ammo when shot it might be nice to have)

Certain vehicles have fire extinguishers to handle ammo detonation,
ones that do will have the fire extinguishers turn on after a set delay.
how will this work ? will it have a representation in game ? will it need user action?
it might be fun if you had to repair with a toolbox, and have to extinguish fire with extinguishers , physically from outside on the flames going out of the vehic ^^

Fuel tank health:
Hitting the fuel tank will deplete some of it.
why not leaking slowly 😏 ?
The fuel can also catch fire and/or leak if it is hit and/or below a certain health percentage.
nvm ^^

Using engine smoke also depletes the fuel tanks.
bit weird to me, i would make it a consumable, you got X smokes, replenishing uses ammo from fob/main (when its implemented obviously)

idk if having fuel is a fun mechanic, i wonder if thats why its not in squad. (might be wrong i never uses nasty vehicles 😄 )
also wonder if they never implemented it in the past

All types of health can be regenerated/healed at main base.
heh, i would make it possible so you can heal everything using crewman kit's toolbox, like squad.
but make it so you cant max it out, it would allow for the vehicle to be able to have a chance to fight back against other vehics / inf while making its way back to main / fob

i like the idea of having a chance to die while in a vehic, though i would make this chance pretty low

What about Wheels and tracks ? 😏

[oblique cradle]

☝🏻

[weary lark]

I don't think I can change wheel properties afaik.

Like friction, torque, to essentially disable a wheel.

Maybe I can remove one of the wheels from the array in the movement component, have not tried that yet

[floral shale]

You could have it slide to a halt when a wheel gets destroyed, just to stop it until it’s repaired

[weary lark]

maybe ya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG7Tmr_pccc&ab_channel=MrJibble

^ They put diesel fuel into their exhaust.

[regal turret]

lul so its a thing

alright, still my comment was more about gameplay mechanics and balance, i would still make it so it's a consumable, i'm still not convinced having fuel you have to worry about is a great gameplay mechanic

[regal turret]

ah thats sad, i would have seen multiple state for wheels, damaged, and you loose quality, like you said friction torque (could even work differently on Ice / sand / roads)
front wheels damaged and your turn, sucks (radius / speed)
back wheel and it's reducing torque

[weary lark]

ye

I can just scale the inputs to the movement component

[regal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/macgyver-approved-macgyver-approved-gif-18574744

[weary lark]

so 50% engine health just really means that you are only putting the throttle up to 50%

lol

I think fuel is fine, it just depends on how much fuel there is and how quickly it depletes

also i was thinking of having backup fuel cans on the vehicles be functional

so if you run out of fuel you aways have enough to get back to main base

• most vehicles have multiple fuel tanks

so you can destroy one, but still have plenty of fuel

[regal turret]

i mean, i dont imagine it being fun. to actually run out of fuel 😄
Being fucked up by another vehicles, ok you messed up , but it was actually an other Hooman doing it.
being fucked by fuel running out is , meh.
Anyway, the best way is as always implementing it and seeing how it feels in a match, and what people say as a feedback ...

As for the backup fuel can, you can bet people will use it to prolong their time on the field and will still run out of fuel

[regal turret]

ok fine, but only if infantry can shoot theses fuel cans 😄

and crew has to go out and extinguish the fires 😄

[weary lark]

ye i was thinking of this

fire extinguishers

[regal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[weary lark]

i think i put it in the notes

[regal turret]

only if you can make the foam VFX 😄

https://tenor.com/view/rammstein-till-lindemann-pussy-penis-teub-gif-24934813

[weary lark]

I think the fuel tanks would be good to stop a single vehicle reigning it's terror driving around killing half the team

like 99% of the time you will never run out

It would only be intended for people who start the match and drive the vehicle around the map 10 times.

and never come back to mai

main

its like ammo but for mobility

[regal turret]

i mean, to mean thats the purpose of Ammo balance, you run out of ammo you can still go back to main, but again, fuel isnt a huge task and can still implement and see how it plays

[weary lark]

ye

also i want another excuse to have the vehicles catch fire

[regal turret]

not gonna argue against that 👿

[weary lark]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-gif-10950823

[regal turret]

damn cant wait for ammo cook out with huge VFX and especially the sound when you hit ammo, sa tis fying

it isnt a thing in squad , right ? havent played in ages, i cant even remember

[weary lark]

Yes it is

I am learning Cascade just to do this

• I need to find lots of engine/ammo cook sounds

[regal turret]

sad that niagara ? isnt a thing in 4.25 ?

[weary lark]

I need to get lots of visual/audio feedback when something is hit

aside from the UI that I'm going to give the driver

[regal turret]

it might be cool if you could overlap a lot of smaller sounds, so it sounds very different for smaller number of samples

[weary lark]

I like in Squad when you engine a vehicle, you know that you hits it's fuckin engine.

[weary lark]

ye lots of foley an other sounds

like i need

• The engine sound
• The tires/tracks moving across the ground
• The rumble from the air displacement of the vehicle
• Sounds when the vehicle hits a wall/terrain
• Sounds for the suspension moving

Plus i want to add a little camera shake when they drive by

[regal turret]

wanna feel the breeze on my face

[weary lark]

poops

there is your breeze

[regal turret]

oof, i mean i asked for it...

[weary lark]

https://tenor.com/view/tenk-gif-27277068

[minor moat]

Tanks

[regal turret]

do you run faster with knife out , huh yoshi ?

[weary lark]

no

https://tenor.com/view/apc-spetsnaz-russia-deploy-battle-gif-5165124

Mom can we have Niagra?
Mom: We have Niagra at home.
Niagra at home:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXK2Xbd7D9w&list=PLZlv_N0_O1gYDLyB3LVfjYIcbBe8NqR8t

[regal turret]

sad

[weary lark]

won't cook in am od

afaik

[regal turret]

is it present ? might be included already

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/RenderingAndGraphics/Niagara/CascadeToNiagaraConverterPlugin/

also not sure how useable this is 😄 but it might help when the times comes

[weary lark]

Was looking at how Squad does their VFX for their vehicle damage. They love using sparks everywhere lol

[wet void]

PLZ dont use those UGLY ASS sparks

literly the reason i never played sqouad cuse those sparks är UGLY AF

[weary lark]

Huh ok lol

Thats a first

Maybe different sparks

But god damn

Once you notice it they all look like rice flying everywhere lol

[wet void]

im talking bout the sparks Squad has dont USE ANY THAT LOOK LIKE THEM i command you as your BOSS

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/942173402838470696/1137766308822401034/1063504134894002186.gif

[weary lark]

Lol ok

[wet void]

those mf be putting sparks every where it makes the visual effects look ugly af they even put them on AT mfs UGLY AF THEY SHOUD DIE

BURN

[weary lark]

Oh also imma make ERA and RPG cages

Functional like arms

Arma

[wet void]

smalls steps my boy if you ever need motivation ill send you nudes i got good looking feet

[weary lark]

Wtf lol

[wet void]

goota keep the vehicles coming OHD neds vehicles

Anyway update when

[regal turret]

kinda weird

[wet void]

I respect your wrong opinion

[weary lark]

SON

[regal turret]

yes sparks master ?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700065988216881242/1143384889991889096/FLARES.png

here , tracers already do what u need 😏

[weary lark]

im making the sparks

fight me

Not amazing looking, but progress

[regal turret]

i mean, a bit of sparks is fine, a bit of fire, a bit of smokes

[weary lark]

Dude

Holy shit

I just looked at the image on my phone

The sparks are the wrong color

Fuckong f.lux

[regal turret]

🤣

ye didnt notice either, nice white 😄

[weary lark]

BMP-2M already in OHD, potentially 🔜

[bold sparrow]

Is it possible to use the Rackets? Or agms

[weary lark]

oh ya AGTMs are already functional

[bold sparrow]

Is the bmp already in or does it need time ?

I cant wait to play it

[floral shale]

Needs time

[regal turret]

how do you feel about the 'follow recoil' for the crosshair in CS2 ?

[oblique cradle]

thats looking sick

is this a model from the marketplace?

[ember minnow]

dude, you should make the vehicle gameplay like in Red Orchestra 2

[weary lark]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/kkekekekekkeke-kk-gif-27232250

[loud spire]

The issue i see with fuel is that you’ll have way more instances of vehicles just being stuck somewhere on the map. Like let’s say a vehicle runs out of fuel, you’d not only have to capture it back but you’d also need to bring a gas truck or something increasing the chance that a player just wouldn’t want to bother getting it back. I guess you could have each crewman have a single gas canister or something to briefly increase the fuel level of the vehicle to get it back to base.

But even then let’s say someone is using your vehicle mod on a variety of maps, would you have the same fuel amounts on a Sumari sized map vs Yehrivnoka. You’d need to balance it map specifically which would probably be pretty annoying to account for.

[regal turret]

yup exactly my point

The issue i see with fuel is that you’ll have way more instances of vehicles just being stuck somewhere on the map.

if you ran out of ammo, welp, just go back to main

[loud spire]

Yah it exacerbates a design issue with Squad and PR already with getting vehicles stuck all over the map.

[weary lark]

mm yes

mmmmm

fuck

mmmmm

[wet void]

Ayo?

[lime zodiac]

enhance

[weary lark]

maybe no fuel depletion, just another thing to explode lol

[loud spire]

I like explosions

[jagged spire]

me lik bomb

[weary lark]

Poop

[weary lark]

Wtf lol

Might add fobs

Maybe

Bmp is lots of work

Need break

[minor moat]

Fobs would be cool or maybe construction so you can add repair stations then (just an idea 😄 )

[regal turret]

fobs

https://tenor.com/view/confirmed-lexi-skymed-s1e2-affirmed-gif-26245081

[weary lark]

I wanna make the fobs actually defendable

like not just a HAB

it's not enough

[bold sparrow]

Why does the matv disapear when it Explodes?

[weary lark]

oh shit

forgot to add wreck

[bold sparrow]

😃👍

[weary lark]

Hab idea

instead of this:

[jagged spire]

Uhh, a tent might be a better model to represent a FOB.

[weary lark]

we have this:

[regal turret]

superFOB meta incoming 😏

[jagged spire]

THIS

[weary lark]

big boi

[jagged spire]

chunky boi

[weary lark]

i gave more exits so it's not a fish bowl

i hate that shit in squad

camp-the-hab simulator

[jagged spire]

Camp enemy FOB simulator.

[weary lark]

ye

i don't like the overrun mechanic to trigger when there is like 1 enemy

that sucks

but then you can have a single dude just spawn camp the hab

[jagged spire]

one exit one enemy MG waiting.

[weary lark]

so i made the hab large enough with enough exits that one person cannot spawn kill for very long, if at all

ye that is why there are 6

this is one big deployable

also because there are so many spawns i can choose to spawn players in the tent farthest away from enemies.

[oblique cradle]

you should still keep this imo

[torn magnet]

That shit is so annoying

[floral shale]

So when is it drivable?

[weary lark]

Im thinking of making it have a logi requirememt

Or maybe multiple SLs

To build

And overrun mechanic so its not aids

Also maybe ill put a radio in the center or some shit

If you kill that the base decays

Like its being dug down slowly over time

It looks weird in squad to smash a radio with a shovel and all of a sudden the hab disappears

[floral shale]

I agree

[loud spire]

The issue I see running into this is placement. If you want to put the hab in buildings or in heavily forested areas might be impossible without overlap.

One solution might be splitting the assets into different builds. Like if you put a hab down then you can place another hab and 6 hescos within a specified radius of the first hab without costing additional build. That way you can add some flexibility with its placement for different map designs.

[weary lark]

ye

i need to figure out if maybe i should have different types of structures for different maps

but that just complicates things, cuz a hab on one map is different from a hab on another

i just don't like getting spawn killed in the hab, so i give the people spawning more of a chance

but on the flip side i don't want the spawn to be overrun if like 1 enemy is too close to it

a long time ago in squad they did not have any overrun mechanic

so you could just spawn kill have like 10 people spawn on the hab with enemies right in front of them

no one liked that

but the overrun is still shit because it makes the spawn so delicate

couple people stumble on the hab, the entire spawn is fucked

[regal turret]

limit.the.scope

[weary lark]

N E V E R

[floral shale]

maybe faction first then maybe change it for map

[loud spire]

Yea they only way I could see that being remedied is encouraging building a 2nd hab that people can spawn at if one hab gets overrun (build one hab get a second one free). But it feels like a awkward solution, Squad has been screwing around with the overrun mechanic for forever and it never really addressed the problem.

To me the issue is that since fobs are purely useful for spawning in Squad, people have less incentive to hand around and guard them. In PR fobs were much more powerful because hmgs were actually effective at taking out light vehicles and AA was vital against aircrafts. This encouraged people to hand around fobs and actually catch people who were sneaking up to them instead of just spawning and running toward the nearest point.

But at the end of the day I think this problem will always be in this genre, the best thing you can do is mitigate it.

[weary lark]

Maybe sweetie

Maybe im thinking to make the hab spawnable you must place N additional fortifications and maybe N more spaw bunkers otherwise nothing is spawnable

And also i want hmgs spgs and maybe tow emplacements

[floral shale]

Have anything to mess around in a playtest with yet since I last joined

[weary lark]

just lots of feature creep

I'm improving main-base protection

[floral shale]

Ah

[fathom pine]

Multiple Habs per fob with overrun mechanics is the answer tbh. It plays better that way

[polar lotus]

might be a stupid question thats already been covered but, are there going to be planes with this mod?

[weary lark]

soon

[jagged spire]

soon?!

[weary lark]

not really

lol

[jagged spire]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-2007099240114134459

[serene hare]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/804930274478653440/1164638692107886632/image0.gif?ex=6543f14e&is=65317c4e&hm=1207394a9d798b62a59bfe2594784cdae71fa6f5ba46dc1082794d9f058bd025&

[regal turret]

planes confirmed

[jagged spire]

plane confirmed

[weary lark]

have there been any Unreal engine games that have full land, air(including attack helis/jets), and sea vehicles?

I think it's only been Battlefield that has done this well

[torn magnet]

squad, has helis and land and sea vehicles

no attack helis or jets though

[weary lark]

Ya i know Squad but they don't have attack heli or jets

And their helis suck ass

Idk if it's an Engine issue or a dev skill issue, why no cool attack helis with lock-ons?

like that shit was achieved in 2011 in BF3 on a fucking Xbox 360

Like just BF3/4 with better visuals is all what people want half the time

[torn magnet]

how?

[weary lark]

they skip across the sky like a powerpoint presentation

[torn magnet]

its because squad isnt trying to be battlefield

[weary lark]

no in general. like no UE games do this

nothing

[neat compass]

Can you do it?

[weary lark]

one day

[weary lark]

gotta poo

@frank blade

Time it

[frank blade]

no,gotta go

[fathom pine]

Dev skill. Rising storm Vietnam has nice helis and its UE4

[weary lark]

tragic

[torn magnet]

not it isnt

its ue3

[fathom pine]

So should probably be even more feasable

[weary lark]

FUNCTIONAL ERA

[polar lotus]

tragic

mig 29 was nice too

[floral shale]

Nice

What’s the next thing?

[weary lark]

MORE ERA

MORE

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

[floral shale]

You could do a vehicle customization thing, where they choose a loadout or something

Where they can have era or decide to take it off to have it move a little fast or something

There could be stuff like that for all of them maybe

And then gas

Fortnite Sunoco

[oblique cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/serbia-tanks-serbian-tanks-serbian-tank-balkan-gif-19590672

[weary lark]

I didn't realize that Post Scriptum already has the mechanics I am working on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv6t_X_3TEs&ab_channel=PeriscopeGames

It's actually insanely detailed.

[floral shale]

Any plans for this Yosh?

[weary lark]

Yes.

[floral shale]

[weary lark]

I already have ERA, ammo compartments, and engines.

[floral shale]

what about fragmentation, any idea if that will do anything to preformance

[weary lark]

depends on lots of stuffs

might do it

but at that point i might just do RNG

[weary lark]

Super random thought.
Squad has talked about having a command-point system. What if I added a point system that some SL/commander uses to "purchase" vehicles?

[floral shale]

Why not

It would make it a squad vehicle

Not whoever gets to the spawn first

[weary lark]

Oh ya that is a good idea as well. Only issue would be one Squad hogging the vehicles. Would need to figure out who gets it.

[floral shale]

What’s the limit on them

[weary lark]

I don't know I would have to fuck around and find out.

Maybe like you get N points, and each vehicle costs N points.

When a vehicle dies, you get those points back after X amount of time.

So you never gain or lose points.

That means you have the option to have a bunch of weaker vehicles, or a few heavier vehicles.

[regal turret]

what always annoyed me about Squad CMDer is : its just a arty spam.
Not an actual commander that is listened to, to get a strat going, and have an actual implicit authority, because it cant give resources to squads

the first thing you could do is a bit like HLL, where the CMD is spawning vehics for squads, using ressource point gathered from buildable resource nodes on the map (i dont like this system , the build one)

what i tried to push for in Satcom (squad mod) but fabian wasnt having it

is giving incentive to vehic squad to not waste assets : so having a point system that everyone can see, you can see which squad is doing well (kills capture point vehic destroyed, time alive , etc)

and you can let the CMDer assign vehic to certain squads (kind of the claim system of squad, with a specific state for when a vehic is spawned , reserved to that squad, and if not claimed for 5 min , its open for everyone )

i also wouldnt be opposed to trying to make the FOB position planned and accepted by the CMDer

since FOB placement is said to be what wins games in squad (which is intrinsiquely linked to the fact that squad is a Lemmings/zerg rush from FOB to Cap)

[weary lark]

Just learned that HLL has the commander spawn in vehicles. That's kind of cool.

If I want to add that ability, I would need to add a commander role.

That is a lot of effort, but I might do it.

Feature creep to the max, woo!

Either a commander role, or having a voting system for SLs only.

[floral shale]

For the commander they have to have engineers build stuff up for them

Like resources

You would also need to do a thing thing with armor classes

[weary lark]

For vehicles at the moment, I would some set amount of points that each team gets.

When you spawn in a vehicle, that costs some amount of tickets, proportional to the armor/lethality of the vehicle.

When it dies, then you will get those points back after some set delay.

[floral shale]

What if you regain some on captures

Maybe make classes for vehicles

Like gunner and driver

[weary lark]

Maybe

[floral shale]

They could be the only ones who can repair

[weary lark]

That would entail separate faction kits for each faction, and I don't know how that would work espeically with modded factions.

[floral shale]

Just give them a pistol and a new bag for now, which is a repair kit

[weary lark]

I'll probably just do some repair station mechanic, or something where you will heal at main.

[floral shale]

Eventually you could do something like enlisted just added

[weary lark]

Ye might do a combination of having commander-spawned vehicles and also some set of vehicles that will always spawn at main.

For example transports, jeeps, etc.

Because especially with Squad some maps have almost 20 vehicles in total for each team.

[loud spire]

Yah I always wondered what happened to the vehicle depot idea for Squad from a few years back. The only issue with it id see is if vehicle metas started popping up, where every game you’d see the same vehicles spawn and it would stagnate gameplay.

Though I do like the fact that it would prevent one manning vehicles more and also the commander could stop giving vehicles to squad or pilots who are consistently losing them.

[weary lark]

Ye.

[loud spire]

I guess you could still limit the “vehicle pool” on a layer basis.

[weary lark]

I think the point system for vehicles would hopefully not create a single meta for particular maps, and you would have to make decisions based on what the enemy team currently has and what you anticipate they will have.

[weary lark]

Ye maybe I'll will use the size of the map/landscape as a rough estimate on the maximum amount of vehicles.

[loud spire]

That might be hit or miss depending on if the landscape is the full map or if the map maker is only using a small portion of it like Chita

Chora*

You could maybe put those values in an ini file and let the server owner decide

[weary lark]

Ye, maybe distance between capture points or distance between main bases.

Ya.

[loud spire]

Yah but then what if elevation is a factor or a lot of windy roads make the points farther then how the crops flies. Best to give the map owner/ server owner control

[weary lark]

Ya I will always give manual override for the server owner.

But I also want to make the best guestimation I can.

[bold sparrow]

Could you put the fraction flags on a Pole at the back from the vehicle ?

[weary lark]

I actually did this before. Might re-enable it in the future. I removed it because people were complaining it wasn't realistic.
Going into battle with bright-ass flags is not the smartest idea.

[bold sparrow]

Oh okey 👍

[loud spire]

Yah I’m not a fan of it either, though Squad Kart could be a fun mod idea

[serene hare]

i mean it does happen in real life, ive seen more vehicles in ukraine with at least a tiny flag on them than not but yea i could see why some might find it dumb

[loud spire]

If it’s a little one on the armor, that makes sense. But on a pole sounds weird especially any modest amount of damage would send it flying

[weary lark]

Ya that's why I just put flag decals on the armor.

That was mainly when I only had the BTR-82, and you had RUS vs UKR and they were the same looking.

Also

[bold sparrow]

It would be cool if we could customize the vehicles like give it a imperial decal or sum

I want an imperial Logo on my brdm2

[weary lark]

lol

I will probably add some customization options in the future.

So you can put whatever flag you want.

@serene hare I'm thinking of using actor tags to convey penetration information. Do you think this is good idea, as a hooman that has made a metric fuck-ton of factions with fancy gear?

like maybe some projectile has a penetration tag named _some_prefix_penetration=100mm

[serene hare]

bold of you to assume i remember what an actor tag is, but yea probably if it doesn't depend on having a reference to a blueprint thats not a part of my mod

[weary lark]

lol

ok

[serene hare]

ah ok just checked the documentation, yea that would work

then vanilla factions would be fucked for trying to kill vehicles, but yea it would work with a select few factions that work to do that

[weary lark]

^ Something like this.

[loud spire]

Probably the only way I can think of that would make it so you can add penetration values to weapons from another mod

[weary lark]

Well I could add defaults/fallbacks for vanilla factions.

But if certain tags are present, then those will take precedence.

[serene hare]

oh yea you could do that, as most modded factions use vanilla weapons or projectiles

[weary lark]

Ye most people base their projectiles off of vanilla ones. So they will have their defaults, and I can check for certain tags and those will override.

[serene hare]

yea, and then those that need different pen values can always add them

such as my tandem RPG warhead / mines

[weary lark]

Yes.

Because tandems in particular need to behave differently.

[serene hare]

im not likely going to make tandems work as real tandems with the double explosion, im just going to crack the ever loving shit out of the pen values

unless it will be glitchy with ERA panels

[weary lark]

Well you wouldn't need to because I'm most likely going to make tandems behave differently.

Like if something is a tandem it can go straight through ERA.

[serene hare]

nice, just like a special tag on the proj or something

[weary lark]

ye

maybe like biglearning_tandem or some shibbs.

[serene hare]

that'd be sick, cuz then you can do other things like extra spall weapons or shockwave based weapons

[weary lark]

Yes.

I also need to add projectiles shattering. Apparently Post Scriptum does this. If a round cannot penetrate, it will "shatter" and send shrapnel everywhere.

[serene hare]

oooooh

[loud spire]

Yah PS armor update was pretty insane. Took them like 3 years or something to release it though lol

[bold sparrow]

@weary lark did you Update the animation when you die?

[weary lark]

Maybe

[bold sparrow]

Looks better then the old one damn

[weary lark]

Oh the post process effect when you die.

I actually just reverted it to the default damage effect.

[weary lark]

@hereNo need to fear, feature creep is here!
HABS AND RALLIES ARE FULLY FUNCTIONAL/REPLICATED.

[jagged spire]

BIG rally points

[fathom pine]

Just make it an item crewman can have and place on vehicle, costs ammo from the Fob.

Just like how mines work in squad.

[floral shale]

true

[solar basalt]

Big thank

[unique arch]

Whats the difference between the HABS and the rallies rn?

[torn magnet]

just now from squad but, habs are for the whole team and rallies are for your squad I believe

[weary lark]

rallies need 1 squad member to create.
only squad members can spawn on them.
they will be 'burned'/destroyed if an enemy is within like 35m or something.

hab needs one team member and a vehicle to create.
all team mates can spawn on them.
habs cannot be placed within like ~50m or something next to each other.
they can be 'overrun'/not spawnable if like ~9 enemies are near.
they have health and are effected by radial damage, (rpgs, grenades, etc.).

[unique arch]

cool thx

[weary lark]

More feature creep

MORE

[weary lark]

REPAIR STATIONS

[severe pendant]

holly shit thats sick

that generator is for repairing?

[weary lark]

Yes.

[jagged spire]

https://tenor.com/view/feature-creep-business-development-marketing-sales-product-management-gif-19824057

[weary lark]

what else

construction?

[minor moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-and-pam-yes-gif-21499107

[weary lark]

HELICOPTERS?

one day

[minor moat]

https://tenor.com/view/helebobter-gif-4633749728343719882

[solar basalt]

Is it done yet?

[weary lark]

lol no

one day

[solar basalt]

Right right mb

[minor moat]

@weary lark

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/unreal-engine-asset-bonanza-software?hmb_source=&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_1_layout_type_threes_tile_index_1_c_unrealopenworldessentialsbundle_softwarebundle

Tanks

and other stuff 😄

[floral shale]

[minor moat]

Personally I'm buying that pack for $30 😄

[jagged spire]

Body dismemberment?

[weary lark]

nah, too much -FPS

[weary lark]

attack markers for SLs

Fixing up VOIP/comms for vehicles

So squad comms works properly and local has proper attenuation

[regal turret]

https://tenor.com/view/feature-creep-business-development-marketing-sales-product-management-gif-19824057

Yoshi over here , remaking old Squad, better than OWI did, with mod tools 😏

[weary lark]

Does anyone know how I can test VOIP stuffs in-editor?

No VOIP thingy when I press 'V'.

Weird.

[regal turret]

prob cant as is, i tried also and its not working

was the same in squad, but thats because they used a proprietary plugin

iirc OHD uses vanilla UE4

i havent looked into it, but i guess its because the mic isnt confugured

[weary lark]

Ya I'm trying to understand how the current VOIP system works but it's kind of hard since I can't actually use it inside the editor lol.

[regal turret]

ye

and also most of it is in c++ / UE4 vanilla stuff

i tried looking at channels and teams etc

(since i have 3 teams in CTZ)

but i gave up

didnt find a way to setup a 3rd team and give them a local / squad / SL (idk if its even a thing )channels

[weary lark]

ye

when you enter a vehicle, it's like the spatialization is just turned off

local and squad comms can be heard from anywhere

[regal turret]

you did that ?

oh

[weary lark]

no that is what happens right now

[regal turret]

OH

maybe because it expect a OHD pawn

[weary lark]

i just need attenuation for local comms and i'm good

[regal turret]

to get location and squad info

[weary lark]

well there is a VOIPTalker component that has it's attenuation settings changed when someone is talking

but when you unpossess a character it gets destroyed

[regal turret]

yep

[weary lark]

i was thinking i could just make my own and attach it to the vehicle

like when it is entered you just register the talker or something

[regal turret]

Maybbee

there is some code exposed that handle unposses and mention the voip talker

[weary lark]

yup

i think all it does is change spatialization settings

so local is attenuated, and squad comms has no attenuation

[regal turret]

nod

[weary lark]

there is this "source effect chain" thing

I wonder if you can add a mic filter or something

and beeps

or when you are using local chat inside a vehicle it changes the sound of your voice

like you are actually inside a big metal box

[regal turret]

add a nice chonky bass engine sound

ah you mean metalic reflection / echo ?

[weary lark]

ye

[weary lark]

Slightly closer to figuring out the VOIP stuffs.

[regal turret]

do let me know what u find out

[weary lark]

ye

I also added the repair station as part of the HAB.

Probably going to make a team-wide HAB limit of like 5 or something idk.

• adding observe, defend, and attack marks

• potentially adding ability for SLs to add enemy markers

[regal turret]

ye, for athena we wanted 3 (but thats pretty extreeme ) 5 is fine for a more relax experience