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#VIP & Prison Break gamemode.
nimble pagoda
slim quarry
have you played Squad Z (i bet you did )
i loved when you had to move through the map, best mp gaming experiences.
It would be awesome to replicate this : heavy fog, PvP Zombie vs players. Extraction mission was the mode i liked.
But here for the VIP , it would be nice to have to extract the VIP and have to protect him.
And ofc prison break gamemode make me think of CS hostage
royal falcon
working on it. anyone have ideas they want to throw me. or want help with what i have figured out so far. let me know
nimble pagoda
oh damn
I can put some notes and suggestions here for when we get farther into it but basically…
- Remove all flags/spawns other than blufor base and opfor base.
- Designate a cube “area” on the map (could maybe even have multiple random ones for higher replay ability) and have a single blufor player spawn there. How this happens could possibly be random, or you could have a player volunteer for it by interacting with a button at blufor base idk. Honestly might even be a perfect role for a bot at some point… but anyways…
- While the player is in the cube area, he is immortal (or if you want to leave him not immortal, just make it so opfor loses if he dies while in the cube) but if he leaves the cube and dies, opfor wins. Blufor wins if he leaves the cube and makes it to blufor base alive
That’s basically it… that’s the entire scenario sundays mode
royal falcon
yeah awesome
nimble pagoda
just occurred to me how perfect the AI could be for this though
royal falcon
thats pretty much what i had in my head.
what do you think about making it round based. one life. no respawning. maybe even put a timer in play.
nimble pagoda
literally just make it like counter strike
royal falcon
yeah right?
nimble pagoda
interact with AI and he follows you
but for now
using a player is totally fine
I think having a player is a super cool twist on things
royal falcon
yeah thats what i was thinking. whoever walks up can command him to follow or wait.
terrorists can move them to different locations if they wanted to.
nimble pagoda
the logic is already in there for that, AI already have follow functionality for squad leaders
I'm not sure if choosing a prisoner randomly would be a good idea tho
should be voluntary
since it needs to be for someone who is cool with just being bored lol
although tbh I love being the prisoner
especially when I try to escape early lol
royal falcon
right would just need to setup a trigger. maybe make whoever triggers the event a fake squad leader or something temporarily
slim quarry
interact with AI and he follows you
cs hostage 🙂
royal falcon
will have to play with it but sounds very doable
nimble pagoda
cs hostage 🙂
tbh that's literally all this is, just with players instead of AI as the hostage
slim quarry
yup
nimble pagoda
although no reason why we could have an option for AI too
royal falcon
i was hoping to also add a 3rd team for the VIP. just a 1 slot
slim quarry
indeed
nimble pagoda
ask kaiz
royal falcon
game won't start until someone has picked to be it
nimble pagoda
he already did a 3rd team for koth
slim quarry
yeah , but it's hard to keep clean, i wouldnt recommend, YET
nimble pagoda
I've already talked with the team about changing the default UI to support multiple teams better in the future
make it like
royal falcon
i just wasn't sure if there was a good way of limiting the team size
nimble pagoda
a dropdown or something
slim quarry
i just did it because i ABSOLUTELY need it
nimble pagoda
something modular so that way it doesn't get in the way of modes like this
royal falcon
that would be great
slim quarry
I've already talked with the team about changing the default UI to support multi...
id love that, but it's more than just the UI
nimble pagoda
yeah I know
slim quarry
under the hood there are a few things that could make this cleaner, cant remember of top of my head but yeah
slim quarry
yeah i was a bit sad that most of the stuff was anim/sound/ (alright AI not shooting through smoke is cool, and the start of formation also)
royal falcon
im sure also if i just wait it would be easier in the future. but i can't help it.
royal falcon
just having it show up in the menu is so exciting haha.
nimble pagoda
yeah I wanted to make modding just super straight forward
super happy with how all the mod tools work right now
the vision is like
finally coming together
I think people are starting to see exactly how everything works, and how modifiable everything is
royal falcon
it's awesome im so glad i found this
nimble pagoda
once this is all done, you'll have all the tools to literally make whatever you want
singleplayer, coop, multplayer, all of the above
zeus mods
survival
tactical
literally whatever
royal falcon
i have watched your yt on and off for years and just heard about ohd about a month ago
slim quarry
and it will make waffles
nimble pagoda
its literally just as open as gmod, if not more so
and the biggest problem with squad modding imo is that you can't test your mods unless you have people
but with our bots
not only are they great cannon fodder for singleplayer
slim quarry
listen
nimble pagoda
but they use the exact same player controller as players do
so you can literally use them
for testing your mods
without having to constantly yell at people to come and join a server
royal falcon
it's legit fun running around in single player with a ton of bots
nimble pagoda
makes a huge difference imo
slim quarry
thats what im doing
everytime i talk to squad modders
but it's hard and i dont have all the knowledge to respond to drama
nimble pagoda
I think its gonna be a slow conversion
also
tbh
I think we're going to slowly tap into a completely new group of people
that aren't really in the squad community
because look
all the people who didn't like the squad drama
its not like they're even still there in that discord
they're off probably in arma or something
they went in there
and were like
nope
and left
just like me
we're not going to reach those people in the squad discord
they're not there lol
we're just gonna have to keep spreading word of mouth
and finding all the people who are gonna love OHD in new places
royal falcon
lol wasn't around for the squad drama. i was playing arma
slim quarry
you are probably right so many left
nimble pagoda
see @slim quarry not everyone even know about the squad drama, or they haven't been in that discord for years
OWI already drove away loads of people, including me
slim quarry
yeah
nimble pagoda
yeah same here
slim quarry
but you know it's always easier to spread lies than truths ... the barrier is so much lower
anyway
nimble pagoda
yes but
royal falcon
thats true
nimble pagoda
lies fizzle out
truth stays
that's why we're still here
truth is the long game
lies is the short game
and squad is now coming on 5 years now
and OHD is finally coming into its own
we're in this for the long game
not the short game
and I think the long game is just starting to pay off
slim quarry
not gonna debate this again, i feel like i should not bring it up, and i didnt i think you did, I just tried to tell fabian here that OHD SDK is nicer to work with even though there is less content (because its newer)
royal falcon
all i know is. i don't fanboy over anything. but i have never felt so much potential in a game before. i can literally imagine doing anything in it. especially once we have MP vehicles working
slim quarry
same
royal falcon
with good modders. or official game modes it could replace arma/squad/hell let loose.
all of them
slim quarry
ahahah
royal falcon
yeah
nimble pagoda
so I can keep my devs from getting kicked out of their houses lol
royal falcon
yeah that sucks
slim quarry
damn , yeah bad timing to survive and do a dream project, even if you want and accept lower wage, the state of the world
right now is
oof
nimble pagoda
nah its fine
we're good
this would have been a shit time to START
but we started years ago
nimble pagoda
so honestly I think this is the best time for us to be at where we're at
royal falcon
lots of people have a lot of time though. so 2 sides of the same coin
nimble pagoda
this honestly might be one of the last chances for the community to get this done
it took so much money and time to get to where we are now
and we did it
once this recession hits
its going to be damn near impossible for a studio to get the support we got, and find the people we found
and then release something for free
royal falcon
yeah
nimble pagoda
with all the stuff we have so
idk
I think this might work out for us really well
I foresee OHD becoming a real bastion of the gaming community
just like gmod and arma maybe
tbh even if we released the game in its current state
royal falcon
im dying for an arma replacement
nimble pagoda
we've gotten some of the most powerful features we really wanted done
royal falcon
i love arma to bits.
nimble pagoda
the community could totally start taking it from here
royal falcon
bit it's...arma
slim quarry
i think if you do what you promised to do, and dont cut corners, even if you under deliver a bit, i think modders will fill the gaps ...
royal falcon
yeah thats when it gets crazy
slim quarry
one thing you succeed at already
is communication
and openness
it's hard for people to understand the landscape anymore with early access and pre alpha
they judge OHD like it's early access already
no it's kind of public Pre alpha
i havent heard of a studio sharing the progress at this stage
this openly
slim quarry
ye
royal falcon
i have seen much much worse much farther into development(or even released)
slim quarry
yeah, and still they pre order it
and its in a bad state at laucnh
ohd is in better state in pre alpha
slim quarry
and its not a preorder its patreon : aka give what you feel is worth it to you
you know what, want to play it, still waiting for them to implement a decent cop feature
i hope it'll be before the DLC
so i can participate in the launch of dlc
and play it at same time
but, thats another subject here, it's about money and publishers pushing
royal falcon
yeah lol
royal falcon
oh im sure
there were so many plans
including all buildings were suppose to be enterable.
slim quarry
yeh
royal falcon
they had to scrap so much. but yeah...could go on about cyberpunk forever lol
terrible gunplay btw lol
i have been replaying it recently
slim quarry
idk man, such a complex game, cant rush this shit, especially fir CDPR with witcher as previous game... you are awaited...
slim quarry
i have been replaying it recently
you know what7, gonna add you and ask for mods advice
i want to have a decent vanilla experience, just trying to remove anoying stuff and have decent gunplay
k lets try to keep on topic
lol
royal falcon
ok going to bed. but i have modified khafji. removed the capture points and the capture mechanics. gonna change some other things around before i call it version 0.1 as well as getting the VIP spawning and team selection. but we will see what i can do tomorrow.
royal falcon
gotta put some sort of update so...here!
jacked up but 99% there(i think)
well 99% to a working prototype
slim quarry
royal falcon
lol thanks @slim quarry