Dauntless nerf?

[fluid breach]

Hello, i noticed a significant drop in my dauntless team damage after the patch. Went from 360mil to 250mil on Journ (CC S2).
The change was supposed to affect the lifesteal talent, how can it affect the overall damage ?
Thanks

[crude root]

Dear Traveler,

Skills that are considered basic attack skills cannot trigger Undaunted, which results in reduced lifesteal effects and weakens the team’s survivability.
If survivability is insufficient, it may prevent players from sustaining through the entire battle duration, making it difficult to fully benefit from "damage boost at full HP" type equipment.

Thank you for your understanding!

[fluid breach]

I was not using Undaunted on Nastjenka nor the Imposing presence equipment. The dps dropped by half somehow.

[crude root]

In actual battles, several other factors may affect the outcome — for example, defense reduction effects not successfully applied, or specific debuffs failing to resist.
If you have already checked these factors and the issue still occurs, please provide your character ID and the time of your last battle so we can assist you further.
Thank you for your cooperation!

[fluid breach]

ID : 1415128163976085504
Battles occured around:
22/10 8:30 utc
23/10 8 utc

[crude root]

Copy that! But I could use some time to respond to you, please allow me if I may.

[dusky gate]

Yesterday this team was doing 330M on average. Nothing changed on my end. Am I supposed to lose 120M to players that saved their score on continental challenge before today just because you decided to nerf dauntless on the last day of week? That is absolutely unfair.

You have to roll back this change immediately.

[fickle furnace]

Sounds like they didnt ners talent but actually messed up with what is considered bassic attack like skills dont count as basic attack for other effects not just talent. I could be wrong but sounds like just bad coding.

[dusky gate]

@crude root ^^^^ that's most likely it. My Sutha was healing himself through mythic glove rather then talent and was able to survive whole fight without problems. Now he dies after 3 minutes. The only reason could be that dauntless skill no longer count as basic attacks.

[proud oar]

Seems like a secret Rook buff, yes-yes

[proud oar]

With Sutha you are missing approximately half of basic attacks due to his passive 😦

[unreal berry]

and who saved score before the today patch is getting huge score than other. Haxx

[long tree]

Have the same issue. Dauntless team dropped 80m since yesterday

[ivory crystal]

Last night, I set up a team, the damage was 380m, now I entered the game, and the same team without any changes my damage 230m, amazing lose 150m damage, great update guys
Thats nerf one talent on sutha, unbelievable

[ivory crystal]

Now I have to keep this result and lose my ranking to people who saved the damage before the update?
Are u joking ?

[tribal fog]

That's shameful. Even if it wasn't supposed to work like that and needed it fix, you can't do it one day before weekly challenge ends. Some benefit from it and some others didn't. And made our day difficult to find another team. You could update it tomorrow, same thing for the new artifacts that presented without saying a word.

[trail sentinel]

Had time to try because saved last week already before the Patch. As you can see, nast is at around 1.5m dps. Last week it was double or more.

[idle rain]

Hey everyone! 👋We wanted to let you know that the recent patch has affected damage output of the Dauntless Damage School for some participants in the Continental Challenge.The dev team is currently compiling a list of impacted players and plans to issue partial settlement rewards within the coming week 💰.We appreciate your patience while we work to make sure everyone’s earnings are protected as much as possible. ❤️

[shy kernel]

do we have to report that we were affected somewhere?

i lost top 20 because of it

I saved 295 with Iceblast instead of 380M with dauntless

[tribal fog]

That's nice to hear. Nonetheless, how they compiling a list of impacted players? You mean, the players that did save the result with dauntless team? Because not everyone saved the dauntless team result because was tragic. I used wild bcoz didnt have time. So, how they would know?

[idle rain]

Players who used dauntless team Heroes to challenge before the update, inflicting higher damage but failing to save their progress will be identified and taken care off in some way. Details will be posted as soon as they are decided

[dusky gate]

This won't do though. Note that tests I run with dauntless team during week were without tier 6 psychicore upgrades which I always apply last day, and also without gear tempering which I also always apply last day. So 331M I had with this team during tests could easily become 350M+ on last day, and dev team has no way to identify how much improvement I could get. And as it happens that 60M I lost is exactly what I needed to reach top 50 on leaderboard. 500 echo loss is huge at this point of season.

[vivid urchin]

Me too all die fast in battle i just notice that yesterday and today are the same performance

[gentle drum]

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/978610996698578944 this here is the official statement and more will likely come on Monday. Please be patient and wait until Monday for further updates

[tribal fog]

Ofc, patience is a virtue! Unless something happens 🤣😅

[crude root]

Dear Travelers,

After the maintenance update on October 23, we discovered that recent adjustments to the Dauntless Build unintentionally affected damage calculations for some players in the Continental Challenge.

The development team is currently performing a comprehensive data review to identify affected accounts, especially those who used Dauntless Heroes teams to achieve higher damage records in the Continental Challenge before the October 23 update but did not have them saved.

To ensure fairness, we will distribute partial settlement rewards to all affected players within this week.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused and greatly appreciate your understanding and support.

Thank you for your patience and continued participation.

[tribal fog]

The dauntless team is still underperforming in CC. Are you going to fix this before weekly challenge ends or this is the new state of dauntless?

[crude root]

Dear Traveler,

Previously, some talents of the Dauntless Team were incorrectly classified as buffs, which caused their damage against the Continental Challenge Boss Journ to be higher than intended. The development team has fixed this bug. The damage dealt by the Dauntless Team in the Continental Challenge against Journ now reflects the intended normal level.

Thank you for your understanding and support, and we hope you continue to enjoy the game!

[dusky gate]

Which talents specifically where classified as buffs? and why that information still has not been provided in patch notes? what sense it has to publish patch notes if they don't contain most important information?

[odd harbor]

But in your original notice about the patch, it specifically talked about passive skill triggering lifesteal. Isn’t lifesteal similar to a mythic gear feature where heroes recover hp from attacking enemies? What has it got to do with dmg buff?

[dusky gate]

So, the week has ended (since its Friday), and there is no rewards to be seen.

[dusky gate]

I'm kinda regretting even mentioning this 'compensation' now, seeing what we got. Let's face it: 3 dice versus what I lost (which is most likely spot in Top 50 at the end of season which means no Gold Tickets for me) feels like slap in the face. I just don't get it why the team is so damn stingy whenever there is problem caused by them. What harm it would make if they did not touch the dauntless team at all? Few players that spend their time to discover this team would get rewarded for their dedication to the game. Instead we get a feeling that trying to be innovative is punished. That is not a way to treat your players. 🤢

[shy kernel]

I lost rank 20 in phase 2 and 3 because of the nerf.
I invested the most in the dauntless team since is my favorite one and I knew it will perform well since I am playing also the CN version.
300 wyrm compensation is a joke tbh (I am saying this a player and also as a CC)
It is not fair 🙂

[crude root]

Dear Traveler,

For this issue, could you please provide your Character ID?
We will proceed with further investigation and follow-up.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

[dusky gate]

1415831851356525568

[bleak torrent]

@crude root I have PM’d you regards this as mentioned in the Announcements channel

[crude root]

Understood, let me check it first, thank you in advance.

[kindred carbon]

i DM you

[shy kernel]

1413298576552264704

[crude root]

Dear Travelers,

For travelers who have provided their character IDs, we have sent the verification results individually via private message for better synchronization. Please check your messages at your convenience.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

[kindred carbon]

I DM you

[bleak torrent]

I replied to your PM @crude root

[scarlet quail]

1617368089389739008

[dense tendon]

I could have gotten to 3rd place in the trials with an extra 100 million damage, but I had to hit the boss with the School of Savagery and ended up in 4th place...

[true thicket]

I got a 300 wyrmarrow letter