twin wyvern
Hi,
It looks like resistance may be bugged or the Talwar boss may be bugged on the Season 2 Continental Challenge. As noted in the attached photos my characters are getting debuffed constantly (deacrease attack, decrease enlight, taunt, stun) even though they are well above the recommended resistance of 260. My Oggok is over 500 resist and as shown in photo 2 is getting taunted... This throws off the entire skill timing of the team.
Thanks for your feedback.
nova stump
Hi,
It looks like resistance may be bugged or the Talwar boss may be bugged on...
Taunt isnt a debuff though, it is a Controll effect.
For the rest, wait for flora pls.
twin wyvern
Taunt isnt a debuff though, it is a Controll effect.
For the rest, wait for flo...
Yes apologies should have put that as a control, however the description for resistance in game designates it as reducing "control" as well. See photo.
desert edge
Sounds like a good reason to leave Talwer (Shudder) alone til the end
waxen sierra
Talwer has so many effects that sometimes something has to go through if you take the ~3% "hidden" chance into account. 🙂
And because he got so many effects, it feels more than a boss that only throws 1 debuff every rotation out.
viral mantle
this is global problem, not only talwer. journ also put his atk debuff even with 600+ resist. in s2 devs totally broke resistance
waxen sierra
Its same as it always was 🙂
zinc rover
I kept talking about this glitch. On the Chinese server in Season 2, 300 resistance was enough for me to avoid penalties. But here, it's total crap.
viral mantle
Its same as it always was 🙂
nope. huge difference with s1. you can check footages from s1 final boss or planar bosses - there also was many debuffs, but resistance works well and we can play with resistance sharing. now its ridicules when with 600res you get debuffs in 7 battles from 10.
waxen sierra
You cant compare planar with this boss.
Planar did a max if maybe 16-20 debuff-rolls if all were allive. Most of the time they were dead so maybe ~5-8 debuff checks per rotation.
Talwer on the other hand has 65 debuff checks continuosly per rotation.
So with the 3% chance, you at least get 1-2 debuffs applied per rotation
paper crescent
700 resistance and the character always under a debuff.
waxen sierra
And you mentioned journ. 3x journ 5hits bs = 15 Hits x at least 4 get hit by 1 and 1 hero by 2 journs = 30 rolls. Means by chance 1 debuff per round applied is normal
viral mantle
So with the 3% chance, you at least get 1-2 debuffs applied per rotation
you know that 3% is myth, it not confirmed officially. if its real this is very bad game design - game rules in such games must be public and clear.
waxen sierra
Nor is it stated anywhere that you resist with guarantee at a certain amount of resistance. It always states "better success rate" or "higher chance of resisting" 🙂
Yes, they could write how much % is how much resistance. But it wont change anything gameplay-wise. 🙂
paper crescent
If there's a boss who's guaranteed to keep you CC'd and debuffed, there should be a defense mechanism. But Poison and Lightning don't have heroes capable of protecting the entire team from the debuff.
waxen sierra
You can dispell (reytah, viccuc, oggok ...) against stun its Lydia, malak
paper crescent
You can dispell (reytah, viccuc, oggok ...) against stun its Lydia, malak
1 dispel and 65 debuff check🤣
waxen sierra
Reading the skills, knowing the heros and understanding how timings work and its easy
paper crescent
Reading the skills, knowing the heros and understanding how timings work and its...
🤡
nova stump
you know that 3% is myth, it not confirmed officially. if its real this is very ...
It is confirmed and even on their webpage un the dragon Wiki
viral mantle
It is confirmed and even on their webpage un the dragon Wiki
then why it not stated in game? for example here
nova stump
then why it not stated in game? for example here
🤷 maybe flora will take that forward as suggestion. I post it forward too
viral mantle
https://www.dragonheir.info/article/103
i know its official site, but materials there looks like fanmade in most cases. also this article from preReborn times and can be outdated
also from article
*Each example mentioned above is a test result of 25 attempts. It can be slightly different from what is actually designed by the programmer, but it gives you a rough idea of how things work.
this confirm that it written not by devs
nova stump
Its official page reviewed ny officials
viral mantle
Its official page reviewed ny officials
in best case it reviewed by community managers, which dont play own game and dont know internal formulas.
anyway this talks not helps with our problem - resistance dont work properly now.
nova stump
Some more input for @past mirage here:
https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1426999498818850906
Locked because double with this thread.
torn warren
i know its official site, but materials there looks like fanmade in most cases....
The devs confirmed it back in the OG dragonheir days, pretty sure.
And they have not said it doesn't exist anymore. Testing in game also confirms it still exists. You can have 600 accuracy and still misss a 100% chance debuff
viral mantle
And they have not said it doesn't exist anymore. Testing in game also confirms i...
ok. maybe once, somewhere, to someone they confirmed that. how players should find out about this mechanics?!
but again this report not about "3%".
torn warren
yup, if journ and talwer are managing to hit their debuffs more than once in a blue moon, they are probably incorrectly set. My guess is a dev put them in as their i5 variant so maybe they're bypassing all resistance
past mirage
Hi,
It looks like resistance may be bugged or the Talwar boss may be bugged on...
Dear Traveler,
When your Resistance is 20 points higher than the Boss’s recommended value, the success rate for resistance is around 94%.
When it’s equal to the recommended value, the success rate is approximately 92%.
Please note that the maximum resistance rate does not exceed 97%, meaning it’s not guaranteed to resist 100% of the time.
Thank you for your understanding!
vapid gust
plain aurora
Dear Traveler,
When your Resistance is 20 points higher than the Boss’s recomme...
we are all well aware of this information. Resistance does not work as intended in these continental challenge fights. If the people responsible for these automated excuses actually went and tested these bugs themselves they would see that this is not "that 3%" that the automated excuse refers to.
past mirage
we are all well aware of this information. Resistance does not work as intended ...
Dear Traveler,
In battle, the hit and resistance rates of debuff effects are not guaranteed to be 100%. There is always a chance of "resistance" or "failure to trigger." The battle performance you observed is normal. We recommend attempting multiple challenges to achieve your desired score.
Thank you for your understanding and support!
zealous inlet
Dear Traveler,
In battle, the hit and resistance rates of debuff effects are no...
Why does a game that already has so much RNG as it is. Have a 3% chance of success against resistance? Why would we farm soo much for the right gear combinations and build these teams to not get controlled, by extension loosing out on damage stats or tanky stats like HP, Def. Just for our run to fail early all the time just because 1 stay control got through then got spread to everyone