#Stop undressed and sexualization female characters in game!

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crisp sequoia
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Players don't want undressed heroes like other fantasy crap bad games!

We want realistic fantasy game!

Undressed heroes in new dragonheir version is very bad. Especially Jathalea. New Jathalea looks doesn't fit the game's plot or the character's personality.

edgy snow
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Yes. The original characters are unique artwork and have personalities . The new erotic "Barbie" style is just bad. 😦

crisp sequoia
fading hatch
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If you didn't like it, stop playing, no one is forcing you to play, go cry on Twitter

edgy snow
severe agate
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Generally I like the characters, but you are absolutely right about those 3. Felosia, Jathalea and Havitar. Unescessary nudity that are making them look worse.

Havitar is the one that bothers me the most, she looks great but in the new version it just doesn't fit the character.

edgy snow
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Same for Flora imho. The old Flora has an aristocratic, reserved character, pretty cool and distinct. The new one is ordinary and vulgar. The garter doesn‘t fit the fantastic medieval/renaissance theme anyway.
The choice for "adult male content" also banalizes the courageous jumpers like Questa, Nastjenka or Aspalta. Sad.

edgy snow
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Btw less variety in character design is narrowing the audience. No appeal for a lot of women, progressive men and people who like dark gothic fantasy aesthetics.

peak wedge
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The hero skins should be available to enable the players to configure them to be either the existing global version, or the new one, a simple mod I would think!

steady spire
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I understand your point, I wonder if under that logic you also ask for Nast's skin to be changed...

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I'm not so much worried about the sexualization as the fact that it might deviate from the essence of D&D that the game has.

edgy snow
steady spire
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hahaha are you sure? XD 😉

edgy snow
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💯

white snow
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The previous models were just fine. The new ones really look worse more often than not.

No one ever complained about the character models so I'm not sure why they're changing it

tawny folio
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Nastjenka is a dominatrix , her outfit fits her persona

white snow
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Look how they butchered Jathalea

tawny folio
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Flora is supposed to be upperclass bourgeoise ... these people dont need to show skin, the change doesnt fit

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the hvitar change is ok i guess

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felosia & jathalea are elders of their tribes ... showing skin doesnt fir their personas

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thats my take on it

edgy snow
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The new designs lack personality in general

tawny folio
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yep that as well

white snow
edgy snow
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Playboy bunnies

white snow
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Plus no one asked for it

tawny folio
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ye but they are trying to appeal to a different demographic

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they are not targeting hardcore gamers, they are targeting gamers that think with their nether regions

edgy snow
white snow
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jade lark
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The more you look at this image, the more uncomfortable it gets, they turned a forest elf into a girl.

They changed the color of the skin, the body, the posture, clothes, look.

In this particular character I didn't like the change.

🚮❌️

edgy snow
remote sedge
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Dear Travelers, thank you very much for your feedback on the hero style. If you prefer not to have any changes made, I suggest listing the English names of the heroes and liking the corresponding hero names. I will compile the statistics and forward them to the development team for evaluation.

crisp sequoia
# remote sedge Dear Travelers, thank you very much for your feedback on the hero style. If you ...

Jathalea new looks totally ruined immersion. New Jathalea looks is very bad and totally doesn't fit to Season 1 main story and this hero personality. Felosia looks ruined immersion too. Hvitar is too much sexualized but this hero doesn't play an important role in the story and not ruined immersion as much as new Jathalea looks. Only new Flora and Ergander looks is acceptable for me. This heroes need orginal looks as a priority: Jathalea, Felosia

dusky atlas
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Jathalea, felosia, flora, thelendor for a start.

Jathalea,hvitar and Felosia too sexy now for the environment we playing in..
Flora lost her aristocratic way, but she is an aristocrat

Thelendor looking too soft now

edgy snow
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honest reef
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I think Hvitar as well prefer to remain, she looks more better in the older version

severe agate
honest reef
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Rather than replacing, can make it as skin would be better, for those who prefer the new art can still get it so the design wont go to waste at least for the dev. Then those who prefer the old one at least still have choice

edgy snow
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remote sedge
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Dear Traveler,

Please rest assured that we actively record everyone's feedback, and the development team will carefully consider all the input provided. Yes, we can present the data in the form of voting to better illustrate the results.

white snow
# remote sedge Dear Traveler, Please rest assured that we actively record everyone's feedback,...

There's one common theme with all the new designs. They all feel cheaply made with very little creativity.

One example of one such areas is their headdresses. All of the heroes that have a headdress have them turned into cheap looking headwear in the new designs especially Jathalea and Hvitar.

Unless the original designers are no longer with the company, it's a weird way to downgrade one's design

white snow
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# crisp sequoia ech

Same here. Notice the same pattern for Jathalea. New design is cheaper and feels like the artist just put something there for the sake of it

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In summary, a lot, if not all (I haven't seen all the new designs, only the ones shown so far) of these new designs look worse, not just subjectively but the quality of the work is poorer than the standards we've come to expect from this game

steady spire
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And this is the reality

jade lark
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It is completely different, you can perceive even the colors of the skin and the characteristics (green) they removed everything that is characteristic of an elf from the forest and transformed it into a teenager or young white woman who does not remember anything an elf from the forest.

steady spire
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They're humanizing the characters. It's worth noting that in China, sexualization is minimal, and most games that have what they call "sexualized" are completely censored. An example from the same company, and why I'll name it here, is Nikke. I understand the complaints stemming from asking for the characters not to lose the essence of D&D, but complaining because they're "sexualizing" a character... the Chinese sexualizing? That's ridiculous; they're the ultimate censors. XD

steady spire
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white snow
steady spire
# white snow No manipulation. The image was pulled from the official promo images. The diff...

No matter where they get the image from, it's manipulation because the post talks about sexualization, and the image makes a mocking comparison of what it shows, with felosia -> nudesia.

There's a big difference between showing an image in a complaint post that seems to show nothing and showing everything, rather than showing the same image showing that the game already shows legs.

The problem isn't the sexualization; as I've said, talking about Chinese sexualization is a joke. The problem is that they can move away from the D&D aesthetic.

It's curious that in a post about sexualization, when talking about change, they say they've changed the skin color and the aesthetic of the clothing (the aesthetic, because Nast's clothing shows more of the body). I don't understand why people take my comment and opinion the wrong way if it's really what I say...

white snow
steady spire
white snow
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They could make sexier designs without sacrificing quality

dusky atlas
steady spire
# white snow Fair assessment. The sexualization this time rubs the wrong way because of how...

Let me explain.
When I saw the change to Felosia, I thought, the change in clothing doesn't go beyond the limits seen in the game itself with Nast. They haven't "sexualized" anything beyond what's already there. The change I found remarkable back then wasn't so much the clothing but the change in the elves' models.

I hope this makes sense because I don't think the sexualization is that significant, because nothing has been seen beyond what has already been seen.

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I think people think I'm in favor of sexualizing characters, but that's not the case. XD. It's just that I saw the Chinese version live and didn't see any major changes in that regard. The most important thing is that they dared to make a direct change to the elves' aesthetics. Let's see how it goes when the version comes out...

white snow
terse turret
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speak for yourself mate go talk to the creators of final fantasy and see if they care (tip: they dont) and neither does the millions of people that play. get a life.

rose bobcat
terse turret
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Fair enough 🙂 but what part was hostile, or disrespectful?

rose bobcat
terse turret
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I asked the chatgpt god and he agrees with you! However that was not my intention - so apologies.

rose bobcat
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woven ridge
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For me its a thing of if you gonna strip em down to after hours bikini beach vibe then you cant just do the woman, the men need to be stripped as well down to their undies and show their muscled bodies which i doubt they will do ever do, similar to errich

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I really like the new versions tho 😭

woven ridge
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Hi good day such comments like "woman to leave camp without escort" and comments like western incels, can be seen as disrespectful and insulting to some, please remove those types of comments.

Thank you

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rose bobcat
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Well, I'd rather see characters outside the canons of beauty. A very masculine female warrior (like Brienne of Tarth from GoT) someone with some kind of deformity (another example based on GoT could be "The Hound", I don't know. Characters like Gragas, in League of Legends, to use it as an example... That kind.

I'm bored of seeing warriors, male and female, and, in general, people who have lived through a thousand adventures and battles everywhere, who look like they've just stepped out of a modeling session.

woven ridge
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I was gonna say Xena thw warrior princess is like a big butch warrior lady and then remembered what she wears

crisp sequoia
dusky atlas
woven ridge
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Where can i go to see all the new looks?

rose bobcat
edgy snow
woven ridge
peak wedge
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Well that’s a messy vote…….what was wrong with the simple questions I posed in the original polls yesterday?

rose bobcat
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I can enter CN vers

woven ridge
rose bobcat
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Lets go DM

woven ridge
peak wedge
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The original questions posed essentially asked the same but in a MUCH simpler way, now you have 4 polls which will purely create a confusing picture…….there were already significant votes for not only keeping the original designs, but also requesting an option to be able to swap “skins” via a selection process by player

woven ridge
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Well the info one can gather the better, i see it as a better view of things by doing more that one voting thingy though dont flood the chat. We cant tell someone they cant make a poll, its only if everyone starts doing it that we gotta lock down. At the end of the day its all about data gathering, likes and dislikes etc

edgy snow
peak wedge
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Well let’s hope that confusion doesn’t mess up the end result then 😳

thorn palm
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The original design is really cooler, it has nothing to do with whether they are naked or not. If I were them I would sell more sexualized skins, but stylistically adhered to the old design on the global server

edgy snow
severe agate
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The only ones that got changed and not sexualized were Vyniara and the pregnant necro.

They are looking more generic and "cheap" art.

peak basin
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This one right, of another hero 🤔. She is looking more okay, I wish most heroes will be drawn like her and not sexualized

severe agate
edgy snow
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Even Talwer got polished.

dusky atlas
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Talwer actually looks better

rose bobcat
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Same as Frubrath

dusky atlas
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Didnt notice the eye 🫣

rose bobcat
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They have infantilized the designs so that they have fewer "diabolical" details

edgy snow
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They swapped the "oil canvas" to an iPad

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the brush to a graphic pen

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the artistic inspiration to AI

peak basin
severe agate
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# rose bobcat Dont think so, i liked the red eye

Actually Talwer with red eye looks like he lost something he is fighting for.

More like he was bullied, and now seeking for revenge 🤔.

The new Talwer seems like a boss establishing his hierarchy.

So both are great.

The first Talwer is great for start of season, the second one for almost end of season

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More like a young boxer and a professional boxer.

peak basin
cosmic pecan
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The problem of the new arts of jathalea and felosia isn't that they are sexualized to me but than they look more human than wood elves, now I find it really difficult to believe that Lorentheel is supposed to be looking like Jathalea's child or than she supposed to be the Queen of a tribe of people who doesn't even look like her anymore. To me Hivtar and Flora design are less of a problem even though I can understand complies about making Hivtar look like less of a threat (I actually prefer Flora New design because of how more badass her dragon looks with all the fire around him)

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honest reef
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this problem can easily solve if they have "skins". like me i like the original design(way cooler) can remain but for the new look(some are nice others are too "forcefully" sexxy) those can be obtain through event or the exchange crystal.

woven ridge
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Exactly then you as an individual can choose how you want em to dress

amber stag
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+1 to this. hate this new direction

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dragonheir is "grown up" fantasy

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if i want boobie simulator i will go play some soft core slop like omniheroes

hidden patio
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@remote sedge if you guys do decide to keep the current appearances, maybe in the future updates, you might want to consider bringing skins to the table, then it’s going to be an appearance choice of the individual, and another way for the game to make money. Because lets be real, while most of players don’t agree with the new character models, there are still many who do. More variety = broader audience

tribal viper
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But how much do you actually see in combat and while travelling/talking ?? Its only when lvling heroes you get better view

remote sedge
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Thank you all very much for expressing your views on the new characters. I will regularly compile your feedback and relay it to the development and operations team. We greatly appreciate the valuable input you've taken the time to provide. If you have any other suggestions, please feel free to share them with us at any time. We hope you enjoy the game!

wind urchin
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Aside from the topic of "cheap sexiness", there is also the cultural removal of skeleton, demons and others in a game with an aesthetic , originally sold as "D&D" inspired.
I get inspiration can mean deviating from the initial material, yes. But is it really necessary to force non Chinese players on the same "no spooky" restrictions ?
Necrosis champs might be affected in their designs the most because of that. It's just graphism yes, but it contributes to the games atmosphere.

terse turret
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I see no reason why they need to change the current skins on any existing character tbh, they are very well done.

amber stag
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all the skeletons are now gone??

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what are the chinese government so afraid of

edgy snow
crisp sequoia
# amber stag wait i missed that lol

I see on gameplay from CN server devs remove skeletons in CN version and add Bay Reach Soldier (frost common hero soldier with spear) as ghostly like soldier, replace to skeleton...

peak wedge
# peak wedge
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Do you prefer the old versions Hero Designs or the new ones?

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Old Design

peak wedge
# peak wedge
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Would you prefer an option to change skins from Old Version Hero Designs to New and Vice Versa

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Yes please provide us a skin option in the new version

crisp sequoia
# crisp sequoia
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You prefer orginal or new hero design?

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36

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Felosia Original

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# crisp sequoia
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Do you prefer realistic fantasy characters (clothes and armor suitable for the battlefield) or ,,sex y'' fantasy characters?

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I prefer more realism

peak wedge
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Well those poll results seem pretty clear………will @remote sedge @strange ivy @deft hornet @hardy notch @outer umbra @torn jay @blazing magnet @twin garnet @gilded vault @dusky atlas etc make sure that these results are passed to the Dev team though please?

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peak wedge
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I appreciate that this is a sample vote, but it’s not like we didn’t try to get more interaction with players here in the DH Discord etc, it’s the usual apathy of “they won’t do it anyways” that creeps in I guess

dusky atlas
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Unfortunately, yes. But we posted it forward already 👍 and flora is following the thread as well 😊

severe agate
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Lossenia just posted on the announcement. One more young doll design. Lost personality.

crisp sequoia
amber stag
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this old model is pretty dull, but why the f is the direction now: look like child, from this?

chilly heath
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Maybe they got an Genshin impact Designer for the Chinese market…

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peak wedge
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And not up to debate at the moment, i asked

peak wedge
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That’s not good 🤬

sinful thorn
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I'm going to put my 2cents here, some of the changes makes sense, some does genuinely look good. However I don't believe full on sexualisation is the answer, I think it takes away from the tone of DND/Forgotten realms and if they really have to go down that route it should be more subtle.

tardy hollow
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several of us speaking here are also f2p tho 🙃

shrewd pike
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I just want to add that art is subjective and if some people like some new designs and some others like some old designs, we all like different things and lets just get along and not reassure people with your strong opinion, it's ok to have different tastes and hopefully this survey is not rigged and they will actually post results x)

peak heron
severe agate
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New dragon is nicer

amber stag
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we should get character textures uplift... with clothes kept on

young compass
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I am in the middle of the road on this topic. I'm all for the busts and midriffs being exposed, but I also like the old faces. The new faces are kind of generic pretty rather than striking and evocative, or heroic.

twilit radish
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Old models are the best. That's just true. Not sure who voted (I missed the voting) but do you really want to play another generic anime style gatcha game? I'm not a fan

crisp sequoia
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Developers take away two from my favourite legendary heroes Scharlach and Gaiolore. As compensation developers give two other new legendary heroes: Two sex y necrosis female womans with nu de legs and woman's panties instead armor. I feel this game moves in wrong way and probably this is beginning. When devs added more new heroes in future season probably game will be covered many sex y female characters like crap fantasy games.

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thorn palm
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here we go again, as i said before there is no problem about whether the character is sexualized or not, There's a problem with the new design in general. I can understand the appeal to certain public but can we at least have alternative skins? You can also sell skins for money. I bet that if somehow a k-pop fan plays the game he will spend tons of money to make his roaster look like his fantasy dream.

dusky atlas
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Good thing is, they already announced skin-system for the future, leaving a date open though

But this ozul is gibing me chills brrrr

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dusky atlas
open current
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welp I agree not over anime-fying this game for sure, losses its core as a dark fantasy, I will for sure quit this game if they so much kill it with an actual skin which is not even lore possible nor fit on the setting of the same hero and sell as a "new hero"

am looking at you king arthur: legends rise

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and yes this isn't a skin this is apparently a separate but same hero

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swift rune
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I want swimsuit Sutha. That is all.

crystal pier
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I want more of this thing you guys are complaining about but from the male characters 🥵

Come on let's see some hot playable dudes and abs 💋

dapper pewter
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or at least introduce legacy skins so we can choose...

limpid osprey
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I AM a fan of new OZUL and ASPALTA face, keep the good work and let player choose their skin of course ❤️

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white snow
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I always have a laugh anytime I scroll past Jethalea's portrait now. Absolutely comical. But it won the votes so that's what we get

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Good thing I don't have to use her often. Until Continental challenge comes along that is

wintry crown
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Go play the games with dudes and leave the games with pretty characters alone!

rose bobcat
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Not needed

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She is a corpse, she doesnt need to wear short skirt

severe agate
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Please tell this is not Feenja

tardy hollow
severe agate
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Like really they are destroying the game art by making every famele a fit 17y old AI model

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It is a problem beyond undressing. Is just cheap art

rose bobcat
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I don't know if they've changed the art team, the decision-makers, or if they've simply lost their way

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But the game has certainly taken a big step back in terms of designs

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Although we have to give a shout-out to some of the new designs. The new Necro girl with a bear and the Goblin King are pretty cool.

tardy hollow
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thb, sacredia feels way better now, but the ozul aspalta and feenja i saw lost their initial soul for sure
ozul is prince of shadow isn't supposed to be a kpop singer even if you give him dark specter or arm in the back...

edgy snow
tardy hollow
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Yeah, far from any form of assassin of the shadows...

rose bobcat
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Ozul is, but Aspalta is even more

severe agate
crisp sequoia
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Maybe the developers think that if players masturbate during the game and have orgasms, their attachment to the game will increase or something. It's hard to find any other meaning in this.

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south ibex
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I agree with the poster. Not sure why they remade so many female units with mini skirts and what is essentially lingerie. It looks like they are strutting around in a Victoria’s Secret show instead of a medieval high fantasy….

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wet pecan
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ok guys let's all remember this is not reality. You cannot sexualize a pixel unless you THINK you are😆

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I could care less how they are dressed or not.

edgy snow
wet pecan
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No thought patrol!

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torn mirage
# crisp sequoia ech

It would have been possible to simply slightly modify the existing design of clothes for Hvitar. And leave her dress

modern silo
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+1 to this suggestion. Can we stop making every single female character pointlessly sexual with boobs practically hanging out

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It's also kinda racist that they lightened the skin of all those female characters tbh.

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Like felosia went from a greenish tint to nordic barbie.

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Almost all of the female reworks went for a super pale skin tone actually. What a weird trend.

crisp sequoia
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New female heroes design is the biggest and main drawback of the new version of the game.

valid pasture
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Ok i agree with the OG poster. I need to ask 1 question though, why did some y'alls minds go straight to masturbation? Almost made me laugh that in effort to not think sexually, some y'all thought sexually just saying

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valid pasture
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The rest made me giggle people visuallized others spending alone time with themselves lol

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yeah I'm saying that the crowd that wants that sort of sexualization everywhere ALSO tends to be chronic masturbators.

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Like people who complain about horizon zero dawn's protag not being sexually attractive enough for SURE spend way too much time with their girlfriend righty.

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Same sorta person

valid pasture
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I guess i hang out with the right type of gamers then lol none of my friends use.game graphics like that hahahaa

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yeah it's more common than you think

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Gacha games tend to try to go for that 13 year old boy mentality

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Cus it makes the most money

valid pasture
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Im either just old then or the wrong kinda divient hahha

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nah you're just not a phone gooner

valid pasture
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That would be true

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100% rather spend "alone" time with my wife then stare at graphics

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I think we're mostly just disappointed because this was one of the most "actual game" like gachas and stuff like boobs mcgee tends to lessen games that aren't blatant cash grabs.

valid pasture
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F2p just has to plan and play long term. Where p2w has to hope the rng lottery hooks them up and not get all the worst ones lol

severe agate
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I think in the end they took a niche game from a small company and are making it a mainstream game on a big company.

The new game modes like the island they have on s2 looks very much like some other cheap mobile games.

I am afraid this is the future, and this include cheap mainstream art as well.

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The time they start to include this completely out of place skin than you know the game art is dead. It is not yet there but I see the direction this is going.

modern silo
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I think Dragonheir creators should realize that one reason League of Legends is insanely popular is that there's a way for every kind of person to enjoy and identify with the available champions. For example, there's hyperfeminine female heroes if you love playing dolls yes, but there's also buff muscular girls, same with masculine male heroes and slender and feminine male ones too. Food for thought considering every single female in the Dragonheir cinematic universe is practically naked and have breasts larger than life as if sexualization is the only way to sell a character.

fierce rose
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They should give us skins

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# fierce rose They should give us skins

With characters being more easily available this does seem to be the way. I think people would pay decent money for things like casual wear characters or other non-bikini skins.

edgy snow
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stuck herald
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Sutha needs to be sexier imho

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and tamar as well 🤣

peak wedge
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You can’t make Granny Tamar any different, she is supposed to be old and grouchy lol

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crisp sequoia
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This is how looks real female warriors what we want in fantasy games:

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Not this:

wet pecan
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This is still open? come on!

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crisp sequoia
tardy cedar
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Can we please get more Premtsa in the game?

floral patrol
south ibex