Misty Conch artifact bug?

[cobalt wadi]

Why isn't the new artifact's ,misty conch, defense penalty II, not counted as a debuff on the target? Is this how it's meant to work or is it a bug? If it's not a bug this is so stupid because sigrid doesn't attack the targets with this debuff on and in grave of venom is not counted as a 2nd debuff on the boss so the harpy attacks a random unit!

[flint rover]

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[whole fiber]

I have not used it yet but judging by arti description it is so called "gold border" debuff and those don't count as normal debuffs, so that would be working as intended case.

[nimble crow]

Yup, I guess the same. It is not a normal debuff like any other, but rather a special debuff (the one with golden border).

I assume that's why. I don't think there is a bug.

[flint rover]

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[cobalt wadi]

I am not sure a video would make you understand better than words in this case

the problem here is that the defense penalty II from the misty conch artifact it doesn't count as a debuff

you can clearly see that in grave of venom where the harpy attacks a random hero other than the tank when she uses her ultimate skill unless you have 2 debuffs on her so if you have 1 random debuff + the defense penalty II debuff from the misty conch artifact she attacks a random hero

[cobalt wadi]

a debuff is still a debuff no matter what

shouldn't be spelled like that "defense penalty II" if it's not counted as a debuff

it should say that reduces the defense by 50% then if it's not a debuff

[flint rover]

Dear Traveler,

Thank you for your message. We understand your concern, and we apologize for any inconvenience caused. In order for us to investigate and address the issue you're experiencing, it would be helpful if you could provide a video of the battle.

By observing the gameplay footage, we can better understand the situation and determine if everything is functioning as intended. This will allow us to provide you with the appropriate assistance and guidance.

Thank you for your cooperation, and we look forward to resolving the issue for you.

[nimble crow]

A debuff is a debuff. A special debuff is a special debuff. They do not fall into the same category since, among other things, they have different characteristics (like not being able to be dispeled).

Or at least I understand that that is the logic that applies and, to which, I make sense. But I can't confirm it either since I'm not Dev haha

[whole fiber]

Well, that's the point - it is not red. If you check arti description you'll see its gold not red.

[ember atlas]

Well, if it's not a regular debuff, it should stack with WR defence down

[cobalt wadi]

exactly, that's why I wanted the dev's opinion on this

I will upload a video if that helps need to edit it to be able to put it here

[wispy cairn]

Exactly this lol

Every other game i played unique debuffs stack with normal debuffs

If it doesnt count as debuff will devalue the item big time

Especially for heroes that have that check on their skills like for example sigrid

[cobalt wadi]

there is the video so as you can see the harpy has 2 debuffs on her and one of them is the "defense penalty II" debuff from the new artifact, the misty conch", and she still attacks a random hero with her ultimate even though she has 2 debuffs on her so that means the defense down from the artifact it's not counted as a debuff or it's a bug.

[nimble crow]

What you say makes sense. But really, regarding the post, I think the reason is clear.

[undone oyster]

So from my experience any debuff that is Gold border i.e. undispellable is not counted as a traditional debuff but a special effect. Just like Phaesa's increase damage taken debuff that she places with her passive on everyone. The game doesn't register it as a "Debuff" but an "effect". That's why the Harpy is attacking randomly because the only debuff it registers is the attack down. The defense penalty 2 from the conch is seen as an "effect" because it has a gold border.

[cobalt wadi]

that means it should stack up with the witch's remains

[echo maple]

Let us know when you tested 🙂

[cobalt wadi]

I just tried it and it doesn't work they don't stack up, they overwrite each other depends on which one goes first

so this is so bad it doesn't work as intended at all

it isn't a debuff but at the same time it is

the devs should definitely have a look into this and clarify it

if you can overwrite it with the same "defense penalty II" debuff from the witch's remains then it's the same debuff

however you take it this just doesn't work properly and it doesn't make sense

[flint rover]

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[nimble crow]

For me, an artifact that looked really good remains a niche use artifact.

[cobalt wadi]

ok thank you!

[flint rover]

Dear Traveler,

As for the bug issue you mentioned earlier, it has been fixed by our devs team. It is recommended to try again.

If this issue still persists, please offer us a new video to check again. Thank you!

[nimble crow]

So what has been fixed?

Now that def down goes from being a special debuff to a normal debuff?

Or is it kept as a special debuff but stackable with the normal def down debuff?

We would appreciate more detailed information, thank you!

[flint rover]

Dear Traveler,

Thank you for your question, and I apologize for the lack of clarity in my previous reply. Recently, we have fixed the issues of "Incorrect buff added to Deadly Harpy " and "Grave of Curse - Characters with buffs greater than 2 will also be stunned by the boss during battle."

[nimble crow]

But this thread has nothing to do with any of those issues.

This is about the "problem" with the Misty Conch artifact.

Anyway, thanks for fixing the bugs ASAP.