#EXCLUSIVE HERO BANNER IN SEASON I

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native lily
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Hi after a really good rework of season 1 the only thing that miss is an banner with exclusive hero like all of other season.

dull ginkgo
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...limited hero? like what? DnD collabs are limited time only, they aren't coming back for a long time, if ever. there are no other limited units, so is that what you mean?

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those events are cross-season, not season-specific... you either are playing when the event runs or you weren't and miss those units until they come back (if they ever do).

native lily
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EXCLUSIVE HERO BANNER IN SEASON I

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im sorry i wrong ...i confuse exclusive with limited...what I wanted to say is that after the various changes made in season 1, in my opinion it would be right to add a banner that contains the exclusive heroes as happens for the other seasons

wicked breach
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isn't that just the main banner for the entirety of season 1?

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since all the champs added season 1 are season 1 champs?

native lily
# wicked breach isn't that just the main banner for the entirety of season 1?

yes and no, the exclusive heroes cannot be obtained from the banners which increase their probability, they can be summoned via normal helios dices... for each season however there is a banner which contains only the heroes of the new season (more or less 15) this gives you a much better chance of getting an exclusive leg than in season 1 where you start with 58 leg heroes.

fleet cargo
wicked breach
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Well yeah, but even in those season banners there's no "increased chance" at getting an exclusive. Just a guarantee for SPECIFIC ones. It's still a .2%ish chance iirc even on season banners. But you could argue the chance of getting a season 1 exclusive is much higher because you have 9~ months (currently) of them being in the pool, vs 6 and 3 respectively.

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And honestly, outside of supports and tanks, none of the season 1 exclusives are even worth having once season 3 rolls around, so I'm not sure if encouraging people to spend most resources on a worse pool is necessarily a good thing.

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Heck, even some of the exclusive supports were powercrept. Synarell is stronger than most if not all of them XD

exotic ledge
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Make it a 120 (pity) banner for an exclusive.
While you get there, the only other Lego available for summoning in that banner are Talwer, Hochadir, Sutha, Ripekas and Sagomir. (Include others ofc.. since otherwise would be perfect for artifact farming)

native lily
# wicked breach Heck, even some of the exclusive supports were powercrept. Synarell is stronger ...

no..as I have already said in the seasonal banner (the ones you have at the beginning of the new season) the chance of getting an exclusive hero is higher not because there is an increased drop rate but because the number of legendary heroes available is lower...assuming that in the banner there are 15 legendary heroes of which 2 are exclusive the chance that after 35 elios you will drop an exclusive hero is equal to 2/15, on the contrary in season 1 the chance is always 2 out of 58...it is not quite the same while keeping the drop % of a legendary the same.
also there are very good exclusive heroes in season 1 Mithrasea, Lelwanis, Hivitar are very good in every season

native lily
wicked breach
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Someone summoned over 1000 times on the season 3 banner and got 0 rooks.

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From arselan's testing in season 1, exclusives have around a .2% drop rate, vs legendaries at 3%ish.

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So your chance of getting an exclusive from those banners is NOT actually higher.

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It's just if you DO hit the lottery, your "prize" is guaranteed to be from a smaller pool.

fleet cargo
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Fun(But True and Sad) fact:

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You better not pulling anything just keep your dices and crystals until S3

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Then you go all in for Rook

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Because literally he is the only hero you need

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If I were a starter in S1 I would do the same

native lily
# wicked breach That's not how exclusive drop rates work.

in season banner ( i mean the banner where u can pull only the leg hero of new season) the % to drop an exclusive leg it 's the same of other lego...it s probably the only banner with that %...so what i ask is a similar banner for season 1

wicked breach
native lily
# wicked breach it is 100% not. People wouldn''t be pulling thousands and not getting a single e...

I probably don't understand your doubts, I don't understand why you won 't add a banner at the beginning of season 1 similar to the one they put at the beginning of each subsequent season, if you think that a banner containing a maximum of 15-20 legendary heroes including the exclusive ones may be useless, well don't use your helios dice for that banner, no one forces you.it's not like you can know what people want, there will certainly be people who think like you and certainly others who think like me... it being understood that, I repeat, no one forces you to use your Helios in a banner that you think useless

wicked breach
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I'm just trying to tell you that your logic is flawed. It's NOT 3/18 chance to get an exclusive when pulling a legendary from those season banners. it's significantly less because the non-exclusives are weighted. Meaning they drop more.

native lily
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Yes, but it is still greater than trying to get them from any other way (the greater the number of heroes you can get the lower the probability of getting the hero you are looking for) even assuming that the rate of exclusives is lower the concept does not change, also there is nowhere written that the % of getting an exclusive legendary is lower than that of a legendary especially if the manufacturer declares the % of drop. ...these are all assumptions made by players, and i repeat, i don't understand your fury at the proposal to insert a banner with 15/20 heroes maximum that includes those 2-3 exclusive heroes of season 1? in the worst case scenario you wouldn't use your helios dice in this banner.

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wicked breach
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I don't understand why you're getting fury out of everything I've said, but since you seem committed to willfully misunderstanding I'm just gonna block and move on.

native lily
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sorry, I'm not English, probably some terms used in the translation might seem unfriendly but that's not the case😅

rugged geyser
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What was meant is that when u have to imagine another dice is rolled to determine what legendary hero you get. Say for example, you need to roll a 1 out of 100 to get an exclusive.

So 99% of the time you will NOT get an exclusive from the legendary pool despite a smaller pool of legendary heroes.

In your example of a banner of 15 heroes with 2 being exclusives, 99% of the time you will draw from the pool of 13 heroes.

If there is another banner of 30 heroes with 3 being exclusives, 99% of the time you will draw from the pool of 27 heroes.