S1 player here. Even before the new updates patch, Gold was very low as a reward and needed at least x2 to be decent - you get so little and the upgrades cost so much, that even by vending everything previously upgraded and being careful and selective it's not enough and you're always on 0.
NPC's give you 1-2k gold and the shop acts like 100k gold (for a huge price too) is a big deal. Dungeons give too little gold and it's not scaling properly. It's crazy to get 5 shards for a legendary item and 60k gold on a lvl 9-10 dungeon.
But, at least before, there were chests in the Fey Meander while you were walking it and fighting, and those fights gave Gold too. Now, with the new update of 1-fight interface, the Fey Meander gives none of those anymore, and you can only get some from the Labyrinth.
Apart from this you are losing all kinds of materials that were in the chests and whatnot.
These are all GONE.
Please think about raising the Gold rewards in the dungeons x1.5-2x and adding back some of those rewards for Fey Meander stages, not just 1 reward for 1 battle, this is disrupting the economy and player progress and Gold is very scarce for absolutely no reason, not tradeable or convertible to any other thing.
I understand you shouldn't have millions laying around and it's an incentive to buy but using up all your Stamina for 1 full lvl 20 Artifact upgrade is at the opposite pole right now and it only went down after the patch.
Please also if you could think about letting us sell crystals we don't need (hero upgrade ones), after updating corresponding element heroes there is no incentive to do that Domain and also what's left just stays in your backpack for nothing.
#Gold rewards are very low and it's a constant problem.
slim birch
frozen lake
Lol s1 player with s3 discord role. Instant label as “no read gang” sorry
torpid pendant
S1 player here. Even before the new updates patch, Gold was very low as a reward...
you need to manage your gold better then. also s1 player here and ending otherworld exploration in 9 days. if you plan your resources and do dailies, grind your 150 stamina, fey and tower, you will get quite a bit of money. the only time you run out of money is you either simply upgrade gears without care or you are not selling your gears. i nvr ever have any gold problems save that one time where i have to raise multiple teams at one go at the start of otherworld exploration.
Please also if you could think about letting us sell crystals we don't need (hero upgrade ones), after updating corresponding element heroes there is no incentive to do that Domain and also what's left just stays in your backpack for nothing.
You will not be saying this if you are raising 2-3 teams for each element lol. That or you have not unlocked otherworld exploration. You will need a lot of crystals when you are doing 10+ teams and the conversion help offset stamina usage to grind elemental dungeons.
frozen lake
you need to manage your gold better then. also s1 player here and ending otherwo...
Not to mention not refining every gear piece you get and refining them by 4 at a time to make sure they are worth it… newbies make mistakes, but not learning from them and whining about it in a “suggestion” is… 🤡
torpid pendant
yeah you do no need to do full upgrade lol that will drain all you money if you do that
slim birch
First of all, I have 6 teams now, one of each element, plus 6 other heroes for support and switchable (Vicuc / Nathaniel etc) and I grinded the crap out of the game for them. Working on 7th.
You constantly have to sell old unused gear and be on your toes to not run out of Gold, and that's a fact, it's not my "managing problem".
Second, this kind of management has nothing to do with the intended subject. Gold is very low as a reward compared to the other stuff like Affinity and whatever else you get.
How can you not see that you get no Gold from Meander, not from Pillar, not from Commissions, and the fights and events give extremely low Gold compared to the other rewards?
It's dumb to talk about what we have to do as players to have some of it for refining items when the base problem is not there. I'm managing my stuff ok and doing my best and I don't need this kind of advice, it's not the point of the discussion.
Gold is a resource that has no impact on game trading / transactions and only introduces a fake grinding mechanic that spends limited stamina for too little reward.
My post was about the fact that I suggest it to be at least 1.5x or diversify the places where you can get it because it's just not properly thought out.
As for the Crystals, once you get your heroes up there is absolutely no use for them whatsoever and they just lie in your backpack, it should also be any player's problem if he needs them or not so I don't see why they should not be sellable.
torpid pendant
First of all, I have 6 teams now, one of each element, plus 6 other heroes for s...
crystals not being a thing is definitely a you thing cause i am constantly needing to make more teams to compete in otherworld due to the latest s1 changes allowing everyone to hit 22m easy. you can get a lot of gold doing goblin around 30k per run
you havent unlock otherworld?
if you want to compete top 10 you have to do more than 10 now
with the latest changes
slim birch
Nope, 24 days away
torpid pendant
your cystals will have use
but nevertheless i think i can agree with you on the fey changes
probably move the gold to ele dungeon maybe
most of my gold is from goblin but there were once or twice i went into fey for gold
removing the screenshots since season ranking is still on going :p
slim birch
it's not ok, you are 2/3 done with the season and you've only got gold to levelup 10 items from scratch, the fey with the chests gone for people who haven't done it and stuff makes it even harder. Plus missing Gold on most rewards.
You'll probably feel it next season too once you start it again (the diff)
torpid pendant
yeah i was thinking about that and that might be a legit issue
from floor 1 onwards it adds up a lot of gold
maybe highlight fey being battle stage now as the main issue. so it wouldnt sound like bad gold management with upgrades.
slim birch
Say for the new arena too, you need 1000 seals for 100k gold but those seals you get in <10 matches, while in the Grand Gladiator you get like 20-30, and now it's disproportionate because you only have 10 entries. The gold is like 1.2k / battle when before you could do 40 (now you can do 10 and 20 max with wyrm spending). Pillars give no Gold, also most Events (Dungeon / training / Arena ones).
When they do give gold you can get 20k affinity or 2k marrow and get 6-30k gold, which is very low compared to the others.
Only runnable thing for extra Gold now is the Labyrinth, or wait a week for the Hard Training rewards.
I call it a general issue especially in the light of these new changes, and one everybody will feel once they start anew, I feel like Gold rewards are now an issue and that's why I made the post.
torpid pendant
like i say its mostly from doing goblin. if you stop doing goblin you run out of gold but i do agree that changes with fey do have an impact on gold income. outside of this though you generally dont get a lot of complains on gold from season 2 and 3 players. i dont know how you are upgrading your gear but i will agree that fey changes will impact gold.
safe pike
You get a LOT of gold from running dungeons.
even in season 1 post changes.
You just have to prioritize leveling good pieces instead of maxing everything.
if you're buying battlepass you have a TON of stamina to gain gold with, and once you have enough legendary pieces, every single epic piece you get is gold.
slim birch
like i say its mostly from doing goblin. if you stop doing goblin you run out of...
For the goblins you get 18k at level 1 and 30k at level 12, vs. level 150 now, with 1-2k increase per level, is that scaling ok?
safe pike
30k per run is a lot when you consider the fact that you can run 30 a day
just from stamina refilling naturally
slim birch
maybe you can, I have 150 stamina...
safe pike
If you only log in once per day of COURSE you're gonna be resource starved cus you're wasting 60+ stamina!
But if you use the tools you're given, it's not that bad.
torpid pendant
ah void bring up a good point
slim birch
i'm here all day, top on my server and put in some cash too for the daily stuff.
torpid pendant
did you buy the battle pass bonsai?
safe pike
Plus you need to realize like 80% of the gear you get even at mythic and legendary level is trash
slim birch
this ain;t about me
safe pike
not worth leveling past plus 4
torpid pendant
no because the battle pass also gives lots of bread
so thats a lot of stamina that could go into goblin
safe pike
so selling all that crap legendary gear gives you a lot more gold than you think
between goblin, gear dungeons, etc, you should have enough gold if you're smart with it!
slim birch
so you need 17 goblin runs for 1 item to 20, meaning 170 stamina.
snow drift
bruh who has gold problems
safe pike
yes, and you get 20x120 stamina from the battle pass, plus a bunch of free bread from the dungeon evnts
snow drift
do you level up every single godamn legendary piece you get and don't resell old gear
most gold comes from reselling old gear
up to you not to level up bad gear
safe pike
Season 1, we had 1/3 the gold you currently have and most people weren't struggling.
snow drift
yeah season 1 gold was very bad but they made changes long time ago
safe pike
It rains from the sky now!
If anything, the gear gacha being so terrible creates a glut of gold
Oh and you guys got an extra source of gold now- mythic gear.
Most pieces are trash
and they sell for 100k
slim birch
never mamba. I was just halfway through the fey with these changes, now missing the explore chests and missing a lot of other places where I just find gold too little compared to the other rewards, why do you all make this about me? It's just a suggestion based on my ingame experience and opinion. You only get 90 days to put the best gear on your heroes and it's just not enough from what I am concerned and it is not scaling properly with the difficulty.
snow drift
do you not resell gear?
safe pike
Well if you yourself are not having gold issues and you're complaining on behalf of some fictional person that DOES have gold issues, that doesn't make sense.
So everyone coming into the conversation assumes this is about you specifically having gold issues.
slim birch
no, I am not complaining about anyone, I am just making a suggestion based on observations
isn't it the suggestions forum?
safe pike
Yes and we often debate in here because if we let the devs only hear the suggestions the game would have unusable rares and epics, and give you 1 mill gold per goblin 1 run lol.
slim birch
I never said that, but we're at the opposite extreme now, so let's not exaggerate.
safe pike
So we're giving reasons why we DONT feel gold is an issue.
Didn't say you did. Just going by old suggestions.
torpid pendant
its still good to raise the issue with fey changes. cause i remember fey gives lots of gold. it might be worth looking into.
safe pike
We've had people suggest giving s1 players 5 free legendaries before, for example. lol
Yeah the fey thing is definitely understandable.
torpid pendant
if you are f2p and dont buy battle pass gold MIGHT be much lesser
safe pike
The rest? Gives enough gold.
Most people having gold issues are leveling every piece without a plan, not swapping around gear, constantly converting crystals back and forth, and just generally wasting it.
Or hoarding gear in general without selling it, which is a big issue... Cus people don't read and think it carries over to season 2.
slim birch
you'll all see it when you start again with the new updates, don't worry. It's not about most people or any people, it's just about the proportionality of the Gold rewards you get vs other items and about it missing from most activities.
safe pike
Or that "What if I need it later?!" mentality so common to rpgs that has you completing a final boss with 99 full heals.
ember dove
Hold up.. are you equipping 6 teams with their own gear????
snow drift
lol
shut lantern
If you only log in once per day of COURSE you're gonna be resource starved cus y...
Actually with the 150 stamina you can log in just once per day... Takes 24h to refill 144 stamina... IDK where you get that number from especially if once your stamina is full you still get reserved stamina at half the rate
Besides not everyone purchases Battlepass each months and those that don't are definitely gold starved
safe pike
Besides not everyone purchases Battlepass each months and those that don't are d...
If you're trying to go 100% ftp, I'd argue that resources SHOULDNT be plentiful. As if everyone gets way more than they need, the game becomes incredibly boring.
But also if you're completely free to play, there's almost no way you're going to do well anyway because you're significantly behind in every way.
shut lantern
If you're trying to go 100% ftp, I'd argue that resources SHOULDNT be plentiful....
I never said they should be or not be plentiful. Merely stating that as it is you'll likely be gold starved
shut lantern
But also if you're completely free to play, there's almost no way you're going t...
But since you bring it up, I do actually dislike the idea that one can't do remotely well without buying passes
safe pike
That's... every mobile game with purchases?
lyric flower
What a sad noob suggestion, its just 100% issue skills.
torpid pendant
fey meander dailies actually gives gold now. so it might not actually be an issue even if the exploration aspect is scrapped. stage 1-49 no gold though not sure how impactful is that.
velvet temple
Gold is kinda ok for me. Just not refining all the equipment. Game really helps me with it when it gives me soooo many plain attack, hp, and defense XD
I was making some good money with selling eq.
Need to be smart about it. I like it when you need to be smart.
Gold is not difficult tbh.