#New Arena made it worse

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daring hull
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Hello everyone,

Maybe it's just me but has arena become even worse?
Now if you wanna be Nr. 1, you can't just fight as long so you have enough points. But now we actually have to beat the person to obtain their ranking.

This results in the top just beeing locked with ppl +5 inspiration and stall comps.

Feels a lot worse then before tbh.

frank lodge
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only 10 tickets once per day also feels bad.

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gonna be a slugfest to snipe highest rank at last minute before reset... which for me is in the middle of the night... feels like a terrible system

short arch
frank lodge
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for 100 wyrm each day?

short arch
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yep. but you dont need it each day. only at start to faster get to top, then just use free 10 at night before reset

frank lodge
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and that's the issue. i can't be playing "at night" every day

short arch
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maybe they will give daily reward for max rank you reach during day and not for rank before reset

frank lodge
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would be nice, but highly doubt they'd reward no.1 rewards to multiple people each day

daring hull
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Yeah feels more flawed then the previous system imo

sudden rain
storm zealot
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The thing is that now that I'm 3rd and can't beat 1st and 2nd I have no reason to play arena at all
I can't even fight people below me because they are "autofights"
So I just sit here and collect my 50 gems every day I guess
Arena is now very dull

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I'm not even bothered by the fact that I can't beat people above me

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The issue now is that there is officially no point to arena, I just sit here and collect my 50 gems for the rest of the season

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Well at least 3v3 is still the same as always. Please don't change that. It's now 👌 with the 10x speed.

dull tangle
frank lodge
daring hull
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Yeah same here 2 am.. No way I'm gonna stay up that late.... Was already annoying to get a good ranking in fey and pillar....

daring hull
sudden rain
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but with everyone complaining about arena being trash content (before update), but mostly because they couldnt use tokens which means no currency being earned weekly and being stuck at a rank and waiting a week to get currency... now you get rewards daily and you can use a token as a throwaway and it doesnt even negatively impact you if you just poke the dude in front of you and lose... daily rewards, almost no effort... idk what the problem is other than it isnt fun content. but it never was (for me and most players anyway), so what's the issue? you want to grind arena and win every token instead of doing nothing and just collecting rewards?

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it is now just... push as high as you can in season, burn a token daily and refresh to see if you can push higher daily... if not, who cares, collect rewards for your efforts passively. like collecting interest on a savings account.

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i guess people are never happy.

dull tangle
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Ok I had a look at the rewards and... as long as you are top 300 you are getting maximum Wyrmarrows daily - which is 50 per day. The only difference is affinity Solvent, which losses value later in the season, and Arena coins - as long as you purchased the Artifact in previous seasons you will have abundant number of it.

As long as you are top 1000 you are getting 2nd highest wyrmarrow reward - which is 30 per day.

Looking at it I actually like the change - you can compete for the higher rank to show off, but rewards are not that different for top 300 so even when you get sniped at 23:59 you dont lose much, unless you end up 301 😄

winged pawn
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Sounds like how other gacha games are doing it. a low tier ranking requirement to get maximum premium gacha currency rewards but wanting to get top 10 will actually require whale like investment. not much reason to it beside bragging rights i guess.

waxen whale
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What is going to happen if the top 10 all launch a battle against #1 in the last minute? Is that even possible or will there be a queue

dull tangle
waxen whale
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That would make sense

lapis wharf
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Ya, talk about self destruction. They needed to revamp, the ranking/leaderboard algorithm, (I was 41 on my server and couldn't get out of Bronze 3). Then....This?? Gutting one of the few methods for low cash players to compete, dropping ticket from 44 tickets a day, to 10, scrapping all of season 3's progress. i just made Silver FFS. Who thought this was a good idea???

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44 fights a day down to 10. Throwing away all s3 progress, over halfway through the season? You can seriously defend this?

dull tangle
celest plinth
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It's actually much easier to earn rewards this time around.

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20 challenges got me into top 10 when it first changed to this system, then I dropped to 90 and I've been staying there with a good defense team.

dull tangle
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Yup, arena does not require grind now which is better for casual players and you can get max wyrmarrow daily as long as you are top 300.

If you want to compete for bragging rights you can still do it but instead of fighting all day to get the most points you just take the best spot you can.

Next thing on the list should be fixing the stall team meta.

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I was worried people would snipe spots just before the reset but then I realised that the daily rewards difference is so small 😅

celest plinth
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yeah ideal gameplay now appears to be go as high as you can and then set your defense team to an extreme defensive stall

dull tangle
celest plinth
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good thing like 10 people on my server even have an ozul and the game sense to use him to stall break lol

hexed orchid
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I didnt like arena before and often would not even use all the tickets. Now it looks better, at least. I won't be looking for top rank anyway but at least I don't have the extra workload of the old arena design

daring hull
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But it's still no fun and tbh I think it's way less enticing....

We only got so little content and now even a part of it is lost again

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And... Im very concerned about the golden wing matches.... How will it be counted there and influence. Is it now mandatory to spend the 100 marrow each day while the match lasts....

dreamy basalt
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It's horrible. This system kinda killed the fun. I have a feeling I am fighting bots 😄 even though those initial fights with lower level heroes are over...it still feels lacklustre

mystic hinge
dull tangle
mystic hinge
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Get 50 every day Plus 1.1.1.1.1.1.1/every ticket =60 and buy more tickets =-40

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Limited tickets

dull tangle
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You dont need to buy extra tickets

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there is no need

mystic hinge
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Just 10/day

dull tangle
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yeah 10 a day is enough

mystic hinge
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Lol if you are in s2 and S3 no more Stories best way is playing arena

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Thats what I did

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And now lost the fun Oh man

dull tangle
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You can always play other PvP modes, seems like this is what they are pushing for

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Im just telling you how it works

mystic hinge
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Playing arena is the one of the best way testing your heros. Figure out every counter hero and Reduce your bired time playing

mystic hinge
# dull tangle You dont need to buy extra tickets

Bruh if the ticket no need to buy just please dont add it. Unusefull. Old arena 20 tickets/50 now 10/100. And if zou comoare the amount of daily rewards now with Weekly reward old arena its same even more weird. But yesterday The amount of Wyrmarrow was extremly high so I thought okay its fine they reduced it this reward will help lot of player but today they reduced it extremly. Just Lol
#RIP
Thanks

dull tangle
mystic hinge
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So if stuck in 1-100 just get. 1.1.1.1.1.1.1?

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And tickets 10 only ;(((

dull tangle
# mystic hinge So if stuck in 1-100 just get. 1.1.1.1.1.1.1?

if stuck 1-99999 you get 1. You only get the extra wyrmarrow first time you get your highest rank. Also rank 1-300 reward gives max wyrmarrows. This helps most people who don't enjoy PvP. Those who did enjoy grinding PvP are not satisfied hence this post. I was just explaining and answering your questions

mystic hinge
lapis wharf
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sad, terrible system. Was up to 40 on my server, but I screwed up the first day, i'm ranked 1500ish now, and can't seem to roll a team over level 50. I do get to see most of the space for matches is filled with the top 10. very very pissed

winged pawn
lapis wharf
storm zealot
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frog your def prolly sucks and also there prolly aren't even 1500 players on server, just go beat up a bot and you'll go back up

The way hits work is that you exchange rank with the person that hit you

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So if you got hit by a guy ranked 1500 then you'll become 1500

hexed orchid
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What is the ticket refresh logic? It is already 6h after reset I I didn't get my tickets today

dull tangle
hexed orchid
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Hope it is not on 24h after use. Because that means eventually you start to get it close to reset and miss a day

hexed orchid
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Yeah got them now. Weird system, probably would be better to just get them all on daily refresh, or similar to how it was before that you get 1 every few hours.

Otherwise I am finding this much better than it was before.

Now I got to a bracket that I actually start to recognize some players from my server, can theorycraft how to beat their teams if I have time or just smash with the quick challange if I don't have time.

Old arena was a time consuming hunt for ramdom players that I could win and I would not recognize players. If they would be bots I would not realize.

Also it is good to see teams of players that are on the top 5

waxen whale
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New system is ok.
Least the shop have everything available now so that is a good change.

It’s a little weird that you get the daily reward hours after reset, and then hours later again you get the tickets back. Very strange, but nothing bad a such.

hexed orchid
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What is this sign?

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dull tangle
rocky nacelle
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I am kinda pleased with changes in arena.

I was around top 50 in S1 in Grand arena, around top20 in team arena. I had very weird composition of heroes but i always somehow found the way how to progress. I have also grinded the Lucky Cards. Playing for it 2 months, buying 2 packs of champion invititations. Tbh, it wasnt fun.
Yeah, thx to that system, i was able to evade stronger players kinda sometimes effectively, being able to beat them in rankings.

But it wasnt fun, unending refreshes when i was looking for players who i can beat.

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So now, even the arena is not a lot of fightings, I am chill and easy. Now i m sitting on rank 3. But I just dont care. Cause wyrmarrows are to top300. Honor points, there is nothing to buy for them tbh now when i already got lucky cards(yeah, the last season i have missed several heli dices cause i was saving for cards). But now, there is no more prob to get lucky cards and heli dices and whatever.
Geez, Lucky cards meant something before.
Nvm.....I hope devs will add more stuff to buy with honor points

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About whales sitting on the top ranks, yeah, thats the reality. All around me are players with 5 leggo arti. But i can beat some of them :P. Only thing which they got in addition is psychocore points....and those are losing its value rather quickly.

ebon spindle
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Well, new arena has somewhat better rewards esp to lower ranking player. But it is now very boring. And ranking settlement at 4 AM my time is just pure pain. Yesterday I beat No 3 player before I went to bad, only to find out I was ranked 19th because I need to sleep. Liked old one better even though it was much more work to rank.

celest plinth
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tbf it was boring before too

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you just had to hit refresh way more

rocky nacelle
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It was same before, just once a week. For me, the reset is also around 3am.
But to be in rank 3 or rank 20, its not important. So i sleep easy now.
Before, it was much more painful to wake up and see that i was beaten down by a level.

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Also, i can look now on my defense matches. Thats quite interesting sometimes.

It will be lovely to get rewards for succesful defences

hexed orchid
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Switch position maybe is a too drastic. You go from 120 to 25 or 30 back to 95 easely. Maybe the possible battles could have a bit shorter range so it is not so easy to get a huge jump, this would get it more stable and less stress on fights close to reset because it would cost more tickets to progress without big jumps. It would reward steady fights instead of big jumps

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But overall it is much better. Now you need a good offensive team to climb up and a good defense team to hold your position. I think this is good system.

rocky nacelle
hexed orchid
oblique drum
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I like the new arena. You can try each day to move up a bit if you want, but very easy to get the 50 warmarrow per day, plus 1 for each fight. You can also collect those by doing quick fights with someone Lower than you. My only tweak would be to let us attack the people right above us when out of the top 20. When I get dropped to 30 or 40, I can’t try my team against someone right above me. It’s always 10-20 above

narrow cloud
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it is the who happens to live in the right time zone event! ridiculous giving awards for progress achieved in the last minutes. Need to change something about this. Better to do ranking system like in chess, so you do not go up and down 100s of rankings in a few minutes just before awards are given out.

daring hull
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Arena just lost it's Charme totaly...

Now it's just a bother... Annoyance without any fun to it at all...
The new system just made it, so it feels even less important then before.

I mean I don't have to do anything at all to get max rewards.
It was a pure devalueing of content.

It would have been enough if they added and increasing heal reduction over time in arena battles.

Stall would have been beatable and we could have had a good mix of teams and players competing.

Now we got nothing... Only a need to buy over prized tickets to compete for cvc...

dreamy arrow
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Also half of the time I'm not able to do the quick battles; that makes it even worse than I stated in here before.

hazy crescent
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I disagree, I love new arena

hexed orchid
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Me also, new arena is much better. Only thing to fix is that it should require less tickets to climb. From position 160 you should not be able to swap position with someone at 40 and that's often happen.

daring hull
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It made it worse....
With the new arena system we also got the pressure in Golden Wing battle.

Now for many top alliances it's mandatory to buy tickets over the week and not play arena at all....
Only to the push through all tickets in one go while golden wing is active... You basically pay 700 marrow to loose 70 tickets over the week since the refill won't hit when you are over capped.

frank lodge
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that's totally not worth it. considering that golden wing gives nothing really

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and alliance ranking unfortunately don't matter either

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Besides wouldn't that logic have been the same before too? puchase tickets over the top and safe them up

dreamy arrow