#Been playing several months and have yet to get a roll higher than an 11 on my Summon Horn.

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sweet snow
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Even the Law of Averages says I should have received at least one Legendary by now. Check my account, I have no Legendary and no rolls higher than 11 on my Summon Horn. My rolls are from 1 to 11, mostly 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9, are you sure you are actually using a D20 instead of a D12? Please do not tell me that I need to pay for my free game to reap any rewards.

cosmic acorn
worthy girder
# sweet snow Even the Law of Averages says I should have received at least one Legendary by n...

Hello, Traveler.
I'm pleased to be of service to you !
Regarding the [Otherworldly Horn] issue you mentioned, please rest assured that we always value players' feedback. I have already sent your suggestions and ideas to the R&D team, and we will continue to collect Travelers' opinions and optimize and improve the relevant gameplay.

At the same time, we understand your concerns about the probability rules of the Horn. Please rest assured that the probability rules of the Horn are based on a random number generator (RNG) system. This means that each time you blow the Horn, there is a certain probability of triggering different results to ensure fairness and diversity in the game. Although the probability of obtaining high-quality heroes may be relatively low, you still have a chance to draw the high-quality heroes you desire. We sincerely hope that you will be able to draw your ideal heroes when using the Horn!

granite turtle
worthy girder
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Dear Traveler,

We understand your concern about specific probabilities, but currently, the Otherworld Horn in the game serves as a welfare feature, and there is no publicly available specific probability information. Please rest assured that we will continue to improve the gaming experience, and we hope you will keep trying. Perhaps you will soon draw the hero you desire. Good luck!

Wish you a pleasant gaming experience! Thank you for your support and understanding.

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granite turtle
# worthy girder Dear Traveler, We understand your concern about specific probabilities, but cur...

Dear @worthy girder ,

I appreciate your response, but I must express my disappointment regarding the lack of transparency surrounding the probabilities within the game. While you assert that the Otherworld Horn functions as a welfare feature with random outcomes, the evidence from my own experiences, as well as those of other players within the Alliance and the broader player community, suggests otherwise. The distribution of outcomes appears to deviate significantly from what would be expected under true randomness, indicating a potential bias towards lower-value rewards.

As a player invested in the game and its community, it saddens me to suspect that such practices might be at play. Transparency and fairness are crucial aspects of any gaming experience, and I urge you to reconsider your approach to ensure that all players are treated equitably. Without clear and consistent communication regarding the mechanics behind in-game features, trust in the integrity of the game diminishes, ultimately detracting from the enjoyment and satisfaction of the player base.

I hope that you will take these concerns seriously and work towards fostering a more transparent and inclusive gaming environment for all players.

Sincerely,
@granite turtle

worthy girder
# granite turtle Dear <@895868711137857546> , I appreciate your response, but I must express my ...

Dear Traveler, thank you for your response, please note that the probability rules of the Horn are based on a random number generator (RNG) system. This means that each time you blow the Horn, there is a certain probability of triggering different results to ensure fairness and diversity in the game

Furthermore, we would like to let you know that we have recorded your feedback as a suggestion and passed it to our team.

Should you encounter any inquiries or concerns, please feel free to contact me.

sweet snow
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I think you need to check your probabilities, again. There is no logical explanation for me NOT getting a roll above 11 on the otherworldly horn in the months that I have been playing this game. I know the "D20" is just an image, but come on, nothing higher than an 11??? However, I have been able to collect all but 2 of the Rare cards, of course this is no help in dungeons or arenas, especially when I constantly come up against parties with Legends, Please, tell me again, how this is fair?

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probable*

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The %chance will NOT be 100% correct for each player, but will average out over millions of summons.

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As all statistics do

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Basically treat the horn as artifact currency because it's not meant to be much more than that.

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So some people will get 0 horn leggos, some will get 5.

sweet snow
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Oh, and please explain how a random number generator can roll the same 3 to 5 numbers all the time? Seriously, every time I summon, I call the number before it comes up, I am usually only off by one or two numbers, the number I ALWAYS pick the number 7. and my rolls are never higher than an 11. Please fix this problem or compensate me for the wasted time I have spent summoning! Thank you

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The numbers are fake.

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Just a visual. It basically just rolls common, rare, epic or leggo, then assigns a number after the fact.

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otherwise the horn would have a 20% chance at epics and a 5% chance at leggos lol

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But yeah because the horn doesn't have pity, you'll get feast or famine for everyone. Their stance appears to be "This summon is just there, it's not meant to be good"

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It doesn't cost you anything to roll it, so it's no big deal.

sweet snow
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So, MY chances are 1,000,000's to 1 to get a chance at a Legendary? That is bogus, and you know it! In the time that I have played to NOT get, even a chance at Legends, is sad. I really do enjoy the game, I just wish I could compete on an even playing field.

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But you can get legendaries elsewhere really easily?

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after 35 pulls on the same banner you get a legendary. guaranteed.

sweet snow
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Where??? Without having to spend real money???

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You don't need the horn legendaries to progress, in fact 2 of them are not even good

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the big orange dice you earn by playing and collecting wyrmarrow

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a free to play gets enough to get 2 legendaries season 1 by doing daily sources of wyrmarrow

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not including errich, the free one from completing the storyline

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battlepass is another 10 dice per month, and the wyrmarrow mining is 10 dice per month, if you want to be a low spender.

sweet snow
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So, spend money? I have summoned well over 35 times on the horn and the best I have gotten is Epic.

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Horn does not have pity.

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Heliolite dice do.

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If you summon on the main banner the pity even carries over between banners. The one that says 0/80 or 0/100

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AND between seasons.

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so you'll get a legendary every 35 pulls on the main banner always. Or less if you're lucky.

sweet snow
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Have not had any luck there, either. only commons, rares and epics.

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As of april 30th, purple dice will also have a .2% chance to give you a legendary

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and you get 700+ of those per season

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so likely that'll be another 1-2 leggos per season

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and if you rank well during a season (very easy to do with rares and epics, particularly right now for new players as you deal with less big spenders than we did as day 1 players.) you get a legendary for 10 pulls. Up to two times.

sweet snow
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I am going to go use the horn, again, and I will be right back to tell you my rolls. BRB

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But yeah The horn has no pity, so you could summon 10000 times and never get a legendary.

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Purple dice have a rare pity at 7 pulls and an epic pity at 35. Orange dice have an epic pity at 7 pulls and a legendary pity at 35.

sweet snow
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So, what is the point? Some get legends and I don't?

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Think of horn legendaries as winning the lottery.

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People don't give up their day job expecting to win the lottery every day, do they?

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Same sorta odds

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All it's meant to do is give you a steady source of artifact essence and to a lesser extent, artifact unlocks.

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since 120 artifact essence per day adds up to a decent amount, with the occasional 300 from an epic roll

sweet snow
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Still say it is a waste of time, all I get are cards I already have, and a pittance of the gold crystals, because the Purple dice and the horn only give me common, rares and epics.

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I mean you don't have to pull on the horn

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except once per day for dailies

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and that's 5 secs

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easy enough to roll it, click through and not expect anything, then just get pleasantly surprised if you DO get something.

sweet snow
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True, or I could just go back to Neverwinter, instead...

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If it were somethig you had to pay for or earn I'd respect the outrage

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but it's free every 10 hours

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Every gacha has a free crappy roll you can do daily for basic stuff, and horn is that for this game.

sweet snow
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True, but, it is extremely frustrating getting beaten up by Legends, especially in the Arenas...

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I can deal with crappy rolls, sometimes, but every day?

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You're gonna get your lunch money stolen by people who spend money if you don't. That's any mobile game. And this is a mobile game, even if it has a steam version and PC client.

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Games that are overly fair to free to play players can't keep the lights on and end up shutting down in favor of greedier business models.

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Just how it always works with games in this genre. Free to play, but pay to win the more competitive aspects.

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You can do EVERYTHING but higher level pvp and higher ranking in vortex with just rares and epics.

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Heck, the most overpowered combo for low level pvp is sigrid and voresh

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and they're a rare and an epic

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Above all, it's okay to just say "I don't like this game" and walk away for your sanity.

sweet snow
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I understand that, so I will just have keep at it and hope I hit a Legendary... some day! And hope I don't have a heart attack when I do hit!!! LOL Thank you for your explanations and patience with an old man! I do apricate your time and effort.

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NP. First season's a bit slow, but second will give you significantly more legendaries if you rank well in otherworld and endgame

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I only had twitch and errich until season 2 started, now I have almost 20 legendaries

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And I only buy the battlepass

sweet snow
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I had to walk away from Neverwinter for a while, so maybe I will take a break, later.

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Keep in mind this game punishes long breaks during seasons

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because you'll be behind on resources, which makes it harder to compete for the next batch of resources

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It's really easy to maintain a rank as a newer player though because you don't have to deal with many spenders on the leaderboards

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with minimal daily play

sweet snow
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Thanks, I will keep that in mind. Oh, just so you know, I had 2 rolls, a 6 and a 9. At least it is consistent! lol

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yeah go into it expecting 2 essence, then everything else feels like a bonus

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lol