#Increase MAX Friends from 50 to 100+ - To Compensate Server Reset Alliance Auto-Disbanding Issue

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forest lion
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This ISSUE is not Closed nor Resolved. However, someone has been Closing or Locking Down Suggestions for no Reason (as noticed since Feb 28th, 2024 - 3:40pm PST). The following is a Repost from the Original Post (created January 20th, 2024 - 4:25am PST)

Since the last post, there were 5 Other Alliance Leaders who agreed with the following Suggestions Overall.


As an Alliance Leader, I'd like to keep all my members as much as possible for the NEXT SEASON, EVERY SEASON. We value ACTIVE Members and Loyalty.

An Alliance will have up to 49 other Players.

Season Reset Auto-Disbands Alliances

This means Alliance Leaders need to spend Wyrmarrows to remake it then Send Invites to People on my Friend's List. Otherwise, we'd have to HOPE for People to Rejoin.

As an Alliance Leader, I'd like to befriend BOTH Alliance Members AND Other People!!!


PLEASE Extend Friend List to 100 - 200 Players.

Or at least do so while the Company's DEVs are still changing and reprogramming and Updating Alliance, if that's currently happening.

And/or Just Keep Alliance after each Season.
Even with Season Changes, what other popular Gacha Games, Seasonal Games, or Other types of Games completely disbands an Alliance? I've never heard of such a thing till now. It's a hurtful mechanic that simply Destroys Community.

IF not, again, please compensate Loss of Leader's Wyrmarrows for constantly rebuilding Alliance from scratch AND enable for more Friends in Friend List.

SUGGESTION 2 - Transfer Leadership to Highest Alliance Contribution Vice Leader > Member if Leader is offline for over 3D

Note 1: For General Readers / Players
I'm unsure HOW the DEV Algorithms work.
PLEASE give the Original Posting an Emote.
It's possible that they look at Most Emoted Suggestions.
Not sure if or when they give Suggestions any Credence otherwise.
Or they don't...? Look at Note 3.

Note 2: Alert Your Members & Each Other
If you like your Alliance as a Regular Member, work as a Leader or Vice Leader in it, And/OR just want to play in a long-term loyal daily active Alliance, feel free to send this onto your Discord or Other Pages so Your Members may also Emote this Suggestion's Page. Please and Thank You
--> To Copy Link: Link Button - Right Side Above Emoji / Text Area
--> On PC: Right Click the Following to Copy Link -https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1212545215034822737

Note 3: Original Post Jan 20th was closed on Feb 28th. Nearly 1 Month and 8 days. There have been NO DEVs / Mods providing Any Answers to reason the Closing / Finalizing this Issue. Therefore, this Issue is Still Ongoing and Unresolved. If there has been a previously Answered Q&A involving the issue, PLEASE REPOST it HERE.

Suggestion 3
For Mods, please don't just Auto-Close Suggestions.

  • Please LINK the APPROPRIATE Answers to Above Concerns if it HAS BEEN Answered, not just state it's been Answered...Somewhere... in all the Texts that are in All of This Official Discord. My Brain isn't Google. I won't find it. Unfortunately, I can't link closed suggestion posts as an Example but on it I couldn't Ask for those Links that have Answers to Other Player's Posts.
  • If there are any Other Reasons for Suggestions Post Closing, please State those Reasons and Update the Reasons in both #✍┆rules-and-info as well as https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1144583360379879424. There are no Current Rules stating Why a Suggestion could be Closed in Either of These Rule Lists (as of Feb 28th, 2024).
  • Also, please give all Members a 24hr Warning that Post is Resolved and Will be Closed in 24 hours after posting of Said Link. Please and Thank You. This could enable Players to have a Rebuttal, for more in-depth explanation and discussion, if it isn't Fully Resolved as well.
forest lion
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The Above is an Ongoing Issue. However, it is not a part of the CURRENT Game Mechanics; therefore, can not be assisted upon thru #🆘┆customer-service.

This is a Suggestion for a Future Game Mechanics:

  • Extension of Friend's List
  • Alliance Leader Transfer for an Inactive Leader
    And Discord Mechanics:
  • Ongoing Issue Post - Unnecessary Closing Prevention
forest lion
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Bump - This is still an Ongoing Issue.

forest lion
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Bump - This is still an Ongoing Issue.

near meteor
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Before you attack mods for "closing your post" please search for it, your post isnt closed just locked, when a posts messeges start going over board we lock it and report it which means on devs and mods can reply or answer the suggestion but the mod who locked it which was me tries to boost it up the ladder by putting it in the daily report.

So please remove this post as you are duplicating a post which makes things difficult for us.

forest lion
# near meteor Before you attack mods for "closing your post" please search for it, your post i...

There are no Guidelines that state "what is overboard" therefore the "Reason(s) why Posts May be Locked" are completely Unknown to the Public.
According to https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1144583360379879424 the ONLY Rules to Suggestions are: Respectful communication and free expression are the rules of this channel.

There are no specific Rules for the Suggestions Channel in #✍┆rules-and-info. Bumping the Post every 3Days IS NOT Spam, due to high volumes of time in between, and thus can not Qualify as such.

There are NO CURRENT Rules as to "what is overboard" and "what permits a lockdown in which NO PLAYERs may reply / engage / etc". Otherwise a Slow Mode Timer would be implemented to slow down other users from replying, especially for Older Posts. This implies that we are allowed to keep messaging. If this is bothersome, I would once again recommend the Rules be UPDATED and Clear for people to see in order for them to ABIDE by RULES that are VISIBLE.

People can't abide by Rules that aren't there to be Known and Seen.

Please include in your Updated Rules that when locked, you also:
"...report it which means [only] devs and mods can reply or answer the suggestion but the mod who locked it ... tries to boost it up the ladder by putting it in the daily report."

Why?
Because to Non-Mods and Devs (i.e. Normal People and Normal Players), it is presumed that a Locked and Unanswered Post means that it's as good as Closed, will be left unresolved, and left to be ill considered. Again, COMMUNICATION is KEY.

People want to know whether or not their Concerns are being Read / Known and whether it fits somewhere in the Priority List of the Future Game Mechanics.

Lastly, I literally am not allowed to DO ANYthing to that old post, which includes not being able to fulfil your request to remove that older post -- it is literally LOCKED from ALL Players, including me, the Original Poster.

thorny grail
# forest lion There are no Guidelines that state "what is overboard" therefore the "Reason(s) ...

Alright to clarify - Juju meant removing this post - which is still not locked - as this post is the one that is a duplicate. We can agree communication is key and we have communicated to you this issue has been reported, thus directly raised to the devs. If you aren't sure how to remove this post, we can happily do it for you. Rest assured this has been raised and we appreciate your feedback. Apologies for any misunderstandings.

forest lion
# thorny grail Alright to clarify - Juju meant removing *this* post - which is still not locked...

I would rather you remove the Older Post to be honest. Unless that Post is already linked to the Devs and should not be removed for the sake of Keeping Priority of Issue in Numerical Order.

However, I think it would be best to Update the Suggestions Rules for Normal People. The FIRST Post did not have ANY reply by a Moderator and still doesn't. Therefore, before Locking Down that Post, Staff DID NOT Communicate with me that the issue had been reported. Yes, JuJu had contacted me here but only because of the Aftermath of the First Post's Lock Down. Locking down a Post without notification / information is a rather negligent course of action, especially since no one can ask further questions about the topic at hand.

Normal People wouldn't know that a Locked Post means it's immediately reported to Devs. Wouldn't only Staff know of this unless we, the People, are told otherwise?

Personally, I'd rather not run into the Same Issues again with any Moderator -- same or different. I would also prefer it if any of my Fellow Gamers wouldn't need to go through it as well.

A CLEAR concise Set of Rules that indicate what "overboard" is, or other general examples of negative occurrences, would best benefit the community, including the measures that would enforce a Lock Down. It would paint a picture of what is a good measure of judgement for people to do and to not overstep.

Do I need to Create a Separate Post in order to Request the Updating of the Rules per Channel, specifically, the Suggestions Channel?

[On the Original Topic of the Main Game Issue: It appears it still hasn't been accommodated yet in Season 3; thus, this issue is still ongoing. Yes, this Issue Only Affects Alliance Leaders; however, Leaders bring Community together, which equals Player Continuance and Loyalty aka Player Retention.]

thorny grail
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Noted, we will aim to ensure clear communication in the future.
We'll also see about updating the rules - aka count that as raised.
I would advise keeping the older post exactly for the reasons you mentioned. This was raised a while ago and for reporting purposes it is good to have the original post.
Do note we are also "Fellow Gamers".
Do note changing stuff in-game does not happen in the blink of an eye and if you keep up with current news, you would be aware why Season 3 was lackluster, which does include delays in Quality of Life changes.
You can create a separate post, if you would like to come off as even more confrontational.
I'll be locking this now, unless you have something actually productive to further contribute?

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Also, you don't need to spend 25 minutes on fancy formatting, I promise I'll still read it

forest lion
# thorny grail Noted, we will aim to ensure clear communication in the future. We'll also see a...

Confrontational, no. Not in the Emotional Sense, no thank you.
I just wanted to know what would be the more concise and effective measure to take. I prefer answers to objectives than confrontations.

Thank you and Juju, again, for raising these Posts to the Devs.

Yes, I understand Development takes time. Writing a Story in verse alone is far easier than doing it for a game for over 5 Million People. That I do understand. Programming, Debugging, Testing, Beta Trials -- it's never easier to cater to the constance of Internet Hungry People, indeed.

I would lastly like to give an additional Suggestion to the Devs:
Future Upcoming Features List to be added to Maintenance Notes in Game. It structurally tells people what is the highest Priorities at this given point in time. It would add for a higher level of Transparency an enable Players to see whether or not their conjoined concerns are currently being worked on.

Lastly, I promise you, this stuff isn't "fancy". It's just what I learned from normal education. I intend to keep my brain and mind intact by continuing my learning lessons in favor of academia. Dementia and Alzheimer's on the steady rise, the Next Generation being lackluster, I'd rather neither preferably. I trust you that this isn't MLA Formatted or anything. I'm just someone that would prefer to be exact, concise, and coherent by rereading and proofing my messages through old school editing prior to sending. Sorry, but it's completely normal for me. HAHA

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Oh!
Whenever you DO update the Rules, oh please do include what Non-Mods can no longer do when a Post has been Locked Down:

  • Can no longer Reply to the Post
  • Can no longer Edit ANY posts, including Original Post
  • Can only Read Mod Posts
  • Can't LINK post
  • Can't Delete Locked Post

And what is Advised they should do:

  • Do NOT Duplicate Posts
thorny grail
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That's alright and you are very welcome. Once again apologies for the misunderstanding.

That is actually a good suggestion, I'll raise/report it right now myself.

To clarify further - it was not just development time necessarily. As you may have heard, the political situation in China took a nosedive due to the suggestion of some laws that would cripple the gaming industry. This led to the withdrawal of Nuverse (DragonHeir's publisher) from the gaming scene. SGRA, DragonHeir's developers, had to spend a lot of their resources and time building up to Season 3 on discussing with possible investors and securing a new one - which we're happy to report has succeeded. Thus, the announcement post made. The devs and SGRA in general did apologize for the delay in QoL and the lackluster season and are very fired up for Season 4.

Since this has given birth to a new suggestion - the addition of an Upcoming Features List in the in-game Maintenance Notes, I believe it best to still leave this post up now, even if it gets locked eventually.

We're discussing the change of rules right now, actually so I'll make sure to raise that too - thank you 🙂

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Adding an Upcoming Features List in the in-game Maintenance Notes has been raised ^^ (as well as the rules suggestion!)

forest lion
# thorny grail That's alright and you are very welcome. Once again apologies for the misunderst...

Oh, goodness! No, I've been quite busy! I hadn't heard the News if it is Only on Discord. (Maybe another Suggestion to Link Important Company News / Changes to Maintenance Notes could be beneficial).

Is that "nosedive" in China outlawing Gacha Games? I heard that took effect.

I heard this was SGRA's Debut Game.
For a First Game, having a player base of over 5 Million is impressive and majorly difficult of an upkeep. Despite the issues, I'm glad to heard that they're doing well and found another investor / investors.

What and where is "QoL"? Not familiar with the Acronym, my apologies. Is it what you previously aforementioned "Quality of Life"?

thorny grail
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Ah no, I believe the government official who raised the suggestion of those laws was fired and they will not be taking effect due to the negative impact just the suggestion had on the country's revenue and businesses. And yes, QoL = Quality of Life indeed

forest lion
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If you have the Link to the previously aforemention information, that could work, too.

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I don't go to Discord often so I might as well while I'm here.

thorny grail
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And SGRA wanted to ensure business was taken care of before announcing it. Due to various laws pertaining business deals and possible other repercussions (ergo players panicking), it was kept on the down-low even from Discord staff until the new investor deal had gone through.

And yes, that is the "nosedive" basically. The new laws would have crippled mobile games and a lot of companies withdrew from the scene in case the laws were passed into effect. Considering the absolute chaos and revenue loss for the country itself though, it got scrapped.

This is the announcement: #📢┆game-announcements message
And this is a recent dev Q&A: #📢┆game-announcements message

forest lion
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Suggestion -- in Relation to more Alliance Ideas
Occurs in the Last 2 Weeks before 100% Story Mode Completion of Season:

  • Alliance Leader Option: Pre-Pay with Wyrmarrows to Keep Your Alliance Name for the Next Season with the SAME Icon and SAME Alliance Body Information
  • Other Members - Check Box to whether they want to stay in the same Alliance Next Season
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Thanks again for the links.

thorny grail
# forest lion **Suggestion** -- in Relation to more Alliance Ideas Occurs in the Last 2 Weeks ...

We have already raised the discontent with alliances being disbanded every new season, yes. From what I gather it is currently a logistics issue due to the server merges, but the devs are very aware of how inconvenient it is. To clarify, it's not being done "just because", we just currently literally cannot transfer alliances through seasons. Hoping that changes in the future myself, to be honest. 😉

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If down the line it is possible to keep the alliance, I doubt we'd need that system in the first place, as it would just... stay as it is.

forest lion
# thorny grail If down the line it is possible to keep the alliance, I doubt we'd need that sys...

My presumption is that it's currently impossible to keep the Alliance due to programming structure. The Alliance is bound to Server, as a Subcategory, and thus not transferrable to a New Server after a Merge. Can Alliances be unlinked to the Server? Or unbound as a separate thing completely that has the capability to unbind and rebind to Server Connections (during Merges)?

It's surprisingly assuring to know that the Auto-Disband issue is completely unintentional. People had presumed it was intentional due to Seasonal Changes. It's good to have verification otherwise.

thorny grail
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I'm not sure, not a programmer or dev myself 😄 I don't think there's any actual reason for the alliances to be disbanded due to the seasonal changes, especially after S2. In S1 you can still invite players to your server with an alliance invite. That feature is removed when Season 2 is rolled in, as Season 1 should not be skipped. After that, alliance features stayed the same rolling from Season 2 into Season 3, so there was no real seasonal change to them as a reason to disband them.

It hasn't been 100% confirmed I believe, but from the information we have been provided it is easy to reach the conclusion it is caused by logistics. Considering the backlash, I'd be surprised if they're not trying to figure out a way to overcome that.

Let me know if you have anymore questions and I'll do my best to answer them 😉 I'm thinking of locking this later tonight to give you time in case anything else comes up, as it has gone off-topic turned into our own personal Q&A - not that I mind, of course 🙂 And you can always check in general chat if there's info on something before raising a suggestion - or of course, raise a new one if not ^^

forest lion
# thorny grail I'm not sure, not a programmer or dev myself 😄 I don't think there's any actual...

Understandable. Asking what they've tried is strictly classified information so I wouldn't do that. However, giving suggestions to that level (direct programming ideas) is rendered far more difficult due to it, even IF anyone does wish to help out. And everyone else just has to hope they pull thru on it. I know I am.

Thanks so much for taking your time to answering my questions and concerns. If your Supervisor ever looks into this Post, I would love to give you a formal recommendation for the follow Assistance:

  • Careful, Meticulous, and Extra Considerate Information
  • Excellence in Punctuation, Mannerism and Speech; Adaptability to Text "Tone"
  • Leaving Players having a Nice Sense of Thorough Customer Satisfaction

I have enjoyed our conversations, Remine.
Thank you for much for indulging in my curiousities about the Company and the Game's Futures, including Game Mechanics and Development.

If I ever have a future Suggestion, I'll just make a New Post.
Looking forward to the New Change of Rules in the Foreseeable Future.
Feel free to Lock this Post now.

May you and the Team take care. Much Luck, Stay Healthy, and for the Sake of Gacha: I hope we all can Keep Collecting!
[I hope Old Ranking Rewards and Older Seasonal Shop Collection Items will be put into Seasonal Shops after 1+ Year of it's Release (Or even the 3rd or 5th Year). Looking forward to Collecting it all slowly, if possible.]

thorny grail
# forest lion Understandable. Asking what they've tried is strictly classified information so ...

Truly appreciate it, it has been a pleasure 🙂

Wish you all the best and like I said - this will be locked about 6 hours from now, just in case ^^

(With them adding previous mid-season heroes to the Seasonal Shop (Utior will be available in the S3 shop once S4 rolls around), I believe the cosmetics are likely already on the table. The main limitation here is for D&D collab heroes - as far as we're aware there is a contractual obligation to only have them available during their event)

forest lion
# thorny grail Truly appreciate it, it has been a pleasure 🙂 Wish you all the best and like I...

Love the idea of Cosmetics. I'm glad they're adding them in the future.
Never underestimate the Idea of Personalization or Character Creation.
People in MMORPGs spend on such things the Most. I would know, ahaha.

Having New Wardrobe would be Great.
Fashion from each Town and City. Dye Options.
I'd buy a New Outfit EACH for 99cents easily.
Having a Body for a Bio in our Profile would be great for Roleplayers.

Seeing Heroes in New Outfits / Skin to Exchange with their Spare Orbs (for Legendary Heroes, after Full Inspiration) would be an interesting concept to touch up on much later for them as well, if they're running out of ideas that is -- nothing like touching up a previous design, after all.