#Zhorak Bug, Passive not granted to Allies

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crystal sorrel
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I'm not so sure about this, but Zhorak's ultimate skill is to grant the ability of his passive to his allies, one of his passive abilities is to gain back an icecrystal upon using a skill that consumes it.

After a bit of testing and playing around, I've seen that it doesn't really work. Please check if this is the intended behavior.

late lily
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It does work for Zhorak himself, it is specifically bugged for any heroes he gives his passive to through his ultimate.

crystal sorrel
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Makes sense, FIX ZHORAK!!!

timber wave
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Pls investigate this dragonheir team

timber wave
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I also tested this and im 100% certain something is off.

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While Zharoks ultimate is running. You have all Ice Blast members with his passive. This means on every allys ice crystal use there is a 50% chance they get a ice crystal.

timber wave
mellow dune
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Did some test runs too i am not sure where the issue is , but something funky with his passive.

still drum
crystal sorrel
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Thank you Lydia, looking forward to hearing the results πŸ™‚

still drum
crystal sorrel
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About 13 seconds into the video Zhorak casts his ultimate skill giving his passive skill to generate ice crystals to Belldelle which would last for 15 seconds, at about 20 seconds Zhorak gains 3 ice crystals and at about 22 seconds Zhorak uses his battleskill to consume 3 of his ice crystals, however, you can see that Belldelle does not gain any Ice Crystal as an effect of inheriting Zhoraks passive ability, she does nothing

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Throughout the video, whenever you see Zhorak using his ult and then consuming his Ice Crystal within the 15 second period, you don't see Belldelle obtaining anything through use of Zhoraks passive

mellow dune
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It's harder to test battle skills but the nature of them being automatic so hear me out as well , not only Zhoraks allies not gain extra ice crystal generations but the damage part from his passive doesn't seem to work properly and i ran this multiple times.

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Screenshots explained.

  1. Zhoraks Ultimate is active which provides 40 % Damage up which seems to be working fine but the part where allies gain zhoraks passive is not working. Gerthins total damage dealt in this screenshot is 113779
  2. Gerth deals double swing with her passive 14852x2 = total damage without any extra damage from Zhoraks passive from both characters.
  3. Calculation of total DMG from 2nd picture 143483 minus the total she had before the battleskill took effect 113779 which is 29704.
  4. double swing calculation from her battleskill total damage 14852x2=29704

Conclusion:
There is no added extra damage from Gerthin OR Zhorak, altho his passive should fire extra damage. Even tho this is a screenshot i ran this for multiple times for 10 minutes total and there was no extra damage happening besides auto attacking.

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P.S.
I know it must be annoying that "Bug report" section is filled with insane amount of false claims and bad reports but i don't see how this is working as intended ^^

still drum
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@mellow dune @crystal sorrel @timber wave

According to the description of the skill. It is possible to obtain Ice Crystals, but not guaranteed.
We hope the above explanation helps you.
Thank you for your support and understanding!

late lily
crystal sorrel
lilac kite
timber wave
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And to everyone else Here, please test this with 3 ice crystal users which is mostly the usecase. Zharok also doesnt spam battleskill as he is using all at once.

timber wave
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The entire fight Bleddyn doesnt get ice crystals from the obtained Zharok passive.

Normale he should have a 50% Chance to obtain one, on every ice crystal use of zharok or Beldelle.

This goes for everyone. Since all have zharok passive while his ult is on.

If you watch Zharok on this clip he regularly obtains ice crystals after one of his allys uses one. While Bleddyn gets 0.

This clip easyly tells that something is off.

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You can track the heros one by one. Zharok always gets the 'Ice Crystal' text as he regularly obtains one.
This doesnt happen to Bleddyn and Beldelle also doesnt seem to get them as regular.

mellow dune
still drum
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@crystal sorrel @timber wave @mellow dune @lilac kite @late lily
Dear travelers, please note that the actual effectof Zhorak's ultimate and passive have met our team's expectations. However, the description of Zhorak's ultimate is incomplete:
The ultimate of Zhorak will grant all Ice Blast allies the effect of his passive skill, but the allies can't gain any stack of Ice Crystal from this passive, namely, allies can only gain the damage effect from it, not the extra Ice Crystal amount.

In addition, our team will optimize the description of Zhorak's ultimate skill as soon as possible.
We appreciate your feedback and patience.

late lily
crystal sorrel
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It is quite unacceptable to advertise wrongly, poor translation leading to investment in the hero should be compensated for. Also, this means that Zhorak is significantly weaker than Shinnah which means we need balancing too. Iceblast is heavily reliant on Shinnah for damage.

tight lance
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You guys need to move to the bug that last node of Fire/Nec not working for minions of Event Boss, so funny this season

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timber wave
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Wait what ? You cant Just say oh sorry we didn't mean it like that. I fully booked him and everything because he seemed to be an insane enabler. Now you telling me he doesnt suppose to give crystals eventho thats what the skill description says. Besides that i couldnt care less about his damage passive that is super low anyway. I needed him to enable ice crystals.

Now i know why he performs so much worse then Shinnah.

I dont know guys, you cant just go the easy way when there are Bugs. He ist giving his passive to allys but as you see now, he doesnt. Fix it instead of saying you will leave him not working.

Besides that im 100% with Sammy. I would rather want Zhorak to work correctly but if you are actually not going to fix it then some kind of compensation is needed.

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No sorry this makes me realy mad. I spent real money for this and you literally just want to change the description of the product i got.
This is literally fraud are you guys kidding me?

golden citrus
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πŸ€‘πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€‘Seems about right

late lily
crystal sorrel
dusky jacinth
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And to think I was wondering why IB team does more damage without Zhorak (fully scrolled)...

prisma whale
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Here we are again with the " work as intendeed "

clear fossil
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@cyan galleon As Dev Team, can you confirm what Lydia tells us?
Are you really taking your community like idiots?

still drum
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Dear Traveler,

Thank you for reaching out to us. We understand your concerns regarding the ultimate skill of Zhorak and the discrepancies you've noticed. After further investigation, we have confirmed that there is no anomaly with Zhorak's skills. The design of this hero has always been such that, apart from himself, other allied targets cannot obtain ice crystals through Icicle. It appears that the previous skill description was incomplete, leading to misunderstandings among players, and for this, we sincerely apologize.

We are committed to addressing this issue promptly by modifying the skill description to accurately reflect the effects and rules of the ability. Our aim is to ensure that all our players have a clear understanding of the game mechanics and the capabilities of each hero.

Your feedback is invaluable to us, and we appreciate your dedication to the game. We assure you that we are continuously working to improve the gaming experience for all our players.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us. We are here to assist you in any way we can.

timber wave
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I mean thats just a huge L for the games reputation. I was rooting alot for the success of the game but the incidents lately show alot about the future of the game. There wont be any bug fixes / balances on heros as long as its not game breaking.

And to be fully honest i do not believe that he was never intended to give ice crystals. Surely no one will be able to confirm this but him giving ice crystals would make a lot sense to his kit.

clear fossil
late lily
cyan galleon
clear fossil
urban estuary
vocal osprey
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So, with the new description of the ultimate..Zhorak shares the passive effects with the rest of IB heroes (but not the icicle and the chance of getting ice crystals). I guess that mean that the derivative dmg of Zhoraks passive is gained by all IB allies. How does that work exactly? I would like an exact breakdown or example of this "gain the effects" description in the ultimate.

glossy grotto
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Zhorak's performance is pretty underwhelming... I'd like to receive my token compensation pls. Here's my ID: 1456358337350418432

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He's not an enabler... Ok, then his DMG output should be much higher. He's currently wearing the same gear that I run in Flora and these numbers are kinda meh tbh

vapid fractal
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I totally agree, ice blast was supposed to be the best composition for vortex and bosses and now even with the exclusive characters the damage is quite average.

timber wave
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I will never spent money on this game again.
First time i spent was season 2 start.
I got Zhorak and Beldelle and guess what they totaly underperform.
I've got every ice blast hero in the game besides shinnah and without her you totaly lack the needed ice crystals.
Zhorak SHOULD also enable it, it fits 100% into his kit.
Im just disappointed to be honest.

timber wave
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Well lets see what we get back from the compensation, besides that Lydia told me that they "significantly improved and optimized Zharoks skills based on player feedback and gameplay data"

There are no changes in his skills yet ? Im confused by this.

prisma whale
clear fossil
golden citrus
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Lucky you, I haven't gotten a reply yet.

clear fossil
# golden citrus Lucky you, I haven't gotten a reply yet.

It's a good solution. In fact, I think that given the circumstances in which errors with the descriptions and/or functioning of the characters are common, they should send a scroll of those to all those who have the affected characters improved in some way, either with books or inspirations.

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I consider that it would be the fairest thing for those persons who have improved a character that does not work as it should, either due to a development error or a failure in the description of the character' skills.

golden citrus
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I agree, but all should receive even if they don't post here.

clear fossil
late lily
clear fossil
late lily
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People might've gotten the hero through a specific banner and not feel properly compensated still. Tweaking the skill is of course the best way to go.

timber wave
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@prisma whale @clear fossil @golden citrus

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There is no way i've been told "significant improvements to zharok skills" while all they changed was his ult description ? Is Lydia a Discord AI Bot or a real person ? Because the anwers i get feel generated.

timber wave
timber wave
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I see okay, i havent gotten it yet.

golden citrus
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Me neither.Lydia messaged me 10 hours ago and that was the last I heard of it .🀷

lilac kite
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Me neither.

glossy grotto
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I was also compensated. Be patient guys

flint blade
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I havent received my scroll and Zhorak has been scrolled since S2 started for me

golden citrus
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Mine arrived a few hours ago.

rancid heart
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So i realy have to write here to get a compensation? I also scrolled zhorak because i thougt je would give crystals to all ib allys. So i also Like to get my Scrolls back. Here is my ID: 1486194686262598656

prisma whale
timber wave
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Its crazy isnt it ? 🀣🀣

prisma whale
# timber wave In my DM

Ahahahahahah so they are giving a compensation only to people interacting with them or here in the discord bug section? What a scam again, they just can check everyone with zhorak skilled or inspired and send it... Did u ask for the compensation or they dm u ?

timber wave
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I had to DM my ID

prisma whale
timber wave
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I had to send Lydia the Message, then i got a reset skills scrolls later

prisma whale
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Uncommentable

dusky jacinth
vocal osprey
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Where is the Oblivion Scroll for sale? I feel like this item, at least so far, used only in these cases where there is a need for compensation. @still drum DM'ed me after I made a comment here, and in her message she says , and I quote: "Hi, we've delivered Oblivion Scroll for the Travelers who upgraded Zhorak's skills before the update. Plz check your in-game mailbox. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us". That's actually not true, at least at this time, since it seems only people who requested it, or complained, got the compensation. This should be issued to everyone that scrolled Zhorak before the description update, the same as they have issued compensations for other bugs or mistakes in the past

clear kindle
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If it needs a DM to recieve the scroll, there we go. Didnt Got anything yet even though i scrolled him weeks ago. And spent a serious amount of Money Supporting the Game. Hope i can still do that in Future. Waiting for the scroll. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

sand niche
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Can I get an oblivion scroll too? I also scrolled him around beginning of the season...

clear kindle
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Guess you have to DM one of these Dev Bots and then they Check of you have zhorak and scrolled him in the past.. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

prisma whale
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I Dm, but no answer. @still drum

still drum
still drum
clear kindle
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IGN: blubb

still drum
# prisma whale Uncommentable

Dear Traveler,
Please note that not every player who contacts us will get the oblivion Scroll. We will verify the player's account logs. If the player does not meet the conditions, we will not issue reissues.

rancid heart
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@still drum so what exactly are the conditions? I fully scrolled him before the Update of his Discription. So Can you please check my Account logs?

torn jungle
sage thistle
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Well this explains why Zhorak is underperforming so much when compared to almost anything else. I think you devs should just take the L and change Zhorak so that his entire passive applies to his allies. Currently Zhorak is just a poormans Shinnah or even Bleddyn. Overall, that hero is quite weak and not a good enabler

torn jungle
vocal osprey
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I just did some testing replacing Zhorak with Gerthin in my vortex team ( the other 2 are Shinnah and Beldelle) and I got the same results or marginally better with Gerthin. That shows the value as a legendary that Zhorak has

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And it doesn't matter if you build Zhorak with ENL or pure DPS, results are close enough to consider them negligible

mellow dune
vocal osprey
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No, poison DMG bonus this week in my server

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And I'm using a team with Zeffi and Oggok so everyone dies exactly at the same time in all runs

crystal sorrel
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So how much damage are you doing in Vortex? and I'd like to see your Zhorak and Gerthin and Belldelle builds πŸ™‚

vocal osprey
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62m, I wouldn't like to hijack this thread with hero builds so I can DM you some screenshots if you want

still drum
still drum
late lily
manic tide
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I scrolled Zhorak a while back and want to unscroll him after understanding that his ult doesn't work as originally thought.
My ID: 1508431216039427072

brittle garnet
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Hello @cyan galleon @nocturne axle @still drum , I also scrolled Zhorak before the fix, I actually scrolled him at the start of the season thinking he worked differently. Can I get the Oblivion scroll please? Here's my ID 1568526157191894016 Thanks πŸ™‚

trim bison
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@still drum @cyan galleon @nocturne axle , also scolled Zhorack before fix, my ID 1472261673506328576 , many thanks

still drum
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@manic tide@brittle garnet@trim bisonDear Travelers, thanks your for your reply. We have reported it to our team for further verification. If there are any updates, we'll get back to you asap.

tight lance
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Hi, @still drum Since Shorak not worth for scrolling, especially the Ult only 40% atk. then I need to take these scrolls back and use for another that worth it. I've scroll him at the first of the season also. Thanks.
my ID:
9153785921508352

still drum
still drum
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@manic tide@brittle garnet@trim bison@tight lanceHi, we delivered Oblivion Scroll for you Travelers for having upgraded Zhorak's skills before the update. Plz check your in-game mailbox. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us!

fair kite
still drum
trim bison
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Seriously, a fkn reset scroll, how about the developers just fix the issue up, the reset scroll does nothing to fix the competitive issue involved, understanding this is not your fault but they have their heads buried so far up their arseholes it is embarrassing

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And to claim in the email that is a gift is a massive insult, if the champion has failed to meet the expectations then they need to offer up more than a reset scroll, we should not have to test a champion in a productive server to ensure it works as indicated

fair kite
timber wave
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100%. The hero is alot worse then described. Nothing refunded but the scrolls. What about the money i spent to summon him ? Its insane and this showed me the true colors of the people making decisions for the game.

spiral lantern
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@still drum 1618910200453758976 please could I get the oblivion scroll for Zhorak, scrolled him at season start. Thanks.

still drum
fair kite
half steeple
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Hello, why is it just a description change as opposed to actually having it be the way it was worded for..?

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I would like a scroll as well. I had him scrolled near start of season as well. Is there any info you need from me?

still drum
half steeple
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1930784651014057984

still drum
half steeple
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Thank you

silver charm
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1514482927670556672 I've got Zhorak as my first legendary day one of S2 and I've been quite disappointed so far can I get a scroll please ?

still drum
still drum
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@half steeple@silver charm@spiral lantern@fair kite
Hi, plz check your in-game mailbox to see whether you've received the Oblivion Scroll we delivered. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us!

upper frigate
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Hello,
I also want to unscroll my Zhorak if possible. Thanks.
ID : 1472543154240006144

trim bison
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Fix the issue with the LEGENDARY champion, wtf garbage is an oblivion scroll if the hero that was summoned is sub standard. It is just a ridiculous outcome, if the champion is not viable give us a choice of champion to replace it with or FIX him!

sage thistle
# trim bison Fix the issue with the LEGENDARY champion, wtf garbage is an oblivion scroll if ...

I kind of agree with this. If the champion is clearly not performing well, oblivion scroll is not a sufficient bandaid fix. You need to start actively look into bringing clearly underpowered or not performing heroes to a satisfactory level and you should be fast about it - or we will be scared to pull gold dice because the legendary champ pool will be so diluted with crap champs that don't really have a spot in any reasonable comp

late lily
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Actual balance changes plssss!

random sluice
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Hello
I want to unscroll my zhorak
ID : 1540660104689384448

Thanks !

half steeple
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Thank you. I did. @still drum

slate wedge
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Hello, i want to unscroll my zhorak too please, fully leveled up before bug fixing

ID : 1940777024604123136

Many thanks

flat yoke
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As someone who kept pulling until I got Zhorak this whole escapade leaves me with a very bad feeling. I wanted to build an ice blast team for S2,so I kept pulling until I got Zhorak (I already got Shinah, ice blast epics and rares before). If I knew he was bugged I wouldn't have spent all the helio dice. I would have opened them in another banner. This way I am stuck with a falsely advertised bad legendary and with no helio dice.

To make things worse, it's impossible to prove any of this. I guess you could check the logs of my pulls,but not sure if this means anything. And even if it could be proven, what then?

Does the development team understand that half baked solutions like this are basically discouraging people from actually buying helio dice and spending money on your game?

EDIT: After my complaint I was contacted by @still drum who looked into the issue, and rightfully pointed out that Zhorak skill description was updated on the day before I obtained him. Therefore, its was my fault not checking the patch notes. So, even though the issue was not resolved in my favor, I have to say I am very pleased that SG team are taking time to listen and act upon the complaints. This personal approach doesn't exist in all games, but its very important for us players to feel we are being heard. So big props to @still drum and her team!

night token
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Hello, i want to unscroll my zhorak too please, fully leveled up before bug fixing

ID : 1689138235531734016

thanks

still drum
storm rune
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@still drum
Hello Lydia, i want to reset skills my zhorak please. thank you

ID : 2011567996116516864

eternal mauve
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@still drum
Hello lydi i want to reset skill zhorak please.thank you

Id:3805732995994624

hasty jay
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@still drum
Hello Lydia, i want to reset skill Zhorak please, Thanks

Id : 1911503597057833984

tacit pawn
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@still drum hello, please reset my zhorak pelase. Id 1722352296827234304

still drum
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We have received your inquiry and have forwarded it to our relevant team and will reply back to you as soon as possible! @storm rune @eternal mauve @hasty jay @tacit pawn

dim epoch
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Heloo @still drum . plis reset my zhorak
Id : 8450109875214336

still drum
low igloo
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@still drum zhorak id:2045626531751578624,reset,thanks

cinder sundial
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@still drum Hello Lydia. I scrolled Zhorak after pulling him in January and I am disappointed about the description failure. Pls check a refund/reset for my Zhorak, thanks πŸ™

1697160279644030976

still drum
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We have received your inquiry and have forwarded it to our relevant team and will reply back to you as soon as possible! @cinder sundial @low igloo

proven furnace
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Hi Lydia, @still drum , I also scrolled Zhorak after pulling him on 1st day of S2. I am disappointed about his description failure and would like a refund or to reset him.

My ID is: 1499705491965100032

still drum
proven furnace
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Thx @still drum

still drum
# night token

Dear Traveler,

We apologize for the inconvenience caused. We have taken note of your information and have shared it with our team. We would like to inform you that the oblivion scroll has not been sent to your account yet. We kindly request your patience as we work towards resolving this issue.

Thank you for your understanding. If you have any further questions or need assistance, please don't hesitate to reach out to us.

still drum
# proven furnace Thx <@895868711137857546>

Dear Traveler,

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused. We have registered your information and reported it to our team. We would like to inform you that the oblivion scroll has not yet been sent to your account. We kindly request you to wait patiently while we resolve this issue for you.

Thank you for your understanding. If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to reach out to us.

livid jacinth
pastel hound
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Nick: StMino ID:1486898378163215360

fallow garnet
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@still drum I also want to unscrool my Zhorak. Pls DM me ID : 1470854304959302656

ionic sinew
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@still drum could I unscrool my Zhorak as well. I got him before the fix.
ID: 1563037383470366720

still drum
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@livid jacinth @pastel hound @fallow garnet @ionic sinew Dear Travelers, thank you for your contact. I have reported it to our team for further investigation. If there are any updates, I will get back to you soon.

still drum
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@livid jacinth @pastel hound @fallow garnet @ionic sinew Dear Travelers, we've delivered Oblivion Scroll for the Travelers who upgraded Zhorak's skills before the update. Plz check your in-game mailbox. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

wispy folio
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@still drum Hello
I want compesation like others about my Zhorak please...

Nick : Apoofis
ID :1463113747195825152

rain ocean
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@still drum Hello there ! Another player who scrolled Zhorak before the fix πŸ™‚ Can i get my oblivion scroll too please ? ID : 1559659686501637120

cobalt bramble
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could I unscrool my Zhorak as well. I got him before the fix. 🧊🧊🧊

ID: 1625806340446771200

boreal oasis
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I also am a player who scrolled Zhorak before the fix if possible would I be able to get this scroll.

ID : 2046470961490157568

plush pendant
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Hello @still drum I would like to get my scrolls back had scrolled hom before the bug/skill fix its honestly sad how this was/had been handled by devs he has a very nice character design but now has no real use rare units do better then him

ID: 1557126405185984512

still drum
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We have received your inquiry and have forwarded it to our relevant team and will reply back to you as soon as possible! @plush pendant @boreal oasis @cobalt bramble @rain ocean

tough goblet
still drum
tough goblet
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Gruzikowski

tidal vortex
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Hi.
I also want to unscroll my Zhorak please.
Nick: McMarro My ID : 1492809357598332928

ripe onyx
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@still drum Hello Lidia. I would like to kindly ask you to return my scroll from Zhorak. It's sad that I'm scrolling through it before it changed. Thank you.

xWdOwAx My ID 1501253611438271488

real dock
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Is Zhorak still bugged?

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If that’s the case I want my scrolls refunded from Zhorak

tough goblet
# real dock Is Zhorak still bugged?

It's not a bug; rather, the description didn't match what he was doing at the time. And if you used scrolls before, there's a possibility of refunding them.

real dock
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I fully scrolled him

late lily
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If you scrolled him before I think 1 or 2 February getting an oblivion scroll is possible, if after, nope, since then his description is correct

still drum
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@tough goblet@tidal vortex@ripe onyxHello Travelers, please check your mail box. We've already sent the Oblivion Scroll to your account after verification.

near stump
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Hi. I would like to unscroll my zhorak.
Id: 1493231579972274176
Name: CLS_Steff

still drum
humble spindle
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Hello @still drum I would like to kindly ask you to return my scroll from Zhorak.
ID: 1920651540887392256
Name : Ultear

real dock
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Hello @still drum I would like to kindly ask you to return my scroll from Zhorak.
ID: 1732766881856336896
Name : AndrasteTallmane

paper dawn
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Hello @SGRA | Lydia I would like to kindly ask you to return my scroll from Zhorak.
ID: 1500549976477428736
Name : AsalA

still drum
still drum
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@humble spindle @real dock Travelers, Please check your mail box. We've already sent the Oblivion Scroll to your account after verification

bleak loom
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Hello @still drum I would like to kindly ask you to return my scroll from Zhorak.
ID : 1742899981635081216
Name : KhazadDum

Many thanks

wild hound
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Me also, first I have heard there was compensation. I scrolled him at beginning of season 2 for vortex team and he was rubbish.
Starlight_DanM75
ID - 1627917400817575936

wild hound
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Thanks Lydia/team, just got my scroll.

indigo hemlock
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I wasted my scrolls as well on Zhorak last season and not using him.

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gramerhellz

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@still drum πŸ™‚

indigo hemlock
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Can I please get my scrolls back? I scrolled him before the verification.

heavy sage
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Hello @still drum.
Me also, first I have heard there was compensation. I scrolled him at beginning of season 2 for vortex team and he was rubbish.
NAME: _OK
ID: 1608354877092218880.

jovial sorrel
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Hello @still drum , can I get scrolls for zhorak too,
Name ToCamoe
Id 1539252729375937536

heavy sage
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Thanks @still drum / TEAM, nice work! πŸ‘

indigo hemlock
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Thanks! πŸ˜ŠπŸ™πŸΌ

still drum
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Hello Travelers, @indigo hemlock @heavy sage @jovial sorrel please check your mail box. We've already sent the Oblivion Scroll to your account after verification.

green nacelle
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Hello @SGRA | Lydia , can I get scrolls for zhorak too, Name CLS_hisokaOnFire id 1466772916011100160

lusty moat
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Hello @SGRA | Lydia , can I get scrolls for too,
Name uricas
Id 1527852996384232448

bronze sierra
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Hello @still drum I just max zharok scroll recently and shock to see this channel whereby the passive is not working. need refund scroll