Final Ice/Radiance Affinity bonus not working

[abstract anchor]

I no see any changes after study first level of this affinity. And Inspiration bonus have 0/0/0/0/0 on visual info. Looks like developers turn off this passive for now?

[rancid quest]

Yep, def not working

[left saffron]

I've seen people complaining about this not working so i decided to test dmg before i put 1 point into the last affinity bonus and then do the test after i put 1 point.

I went to a target dummy and put Gerthrin with 4 random other ice heroes just to gain 5 elemental bonus and observed Gerthrin.
She was only ice blast hero 'cuz i didnt want any other buffs/synergy to affect my Gerthrin.
I wrote down yellow damage from gerthrin battle and ultimate skill.

RESULTS:

BEFORE i invested a point into the last talent:

She was dealing
15.299 damage with her battle skill and
17.675 damage with her ultimate skill.

AFTER i invested a point into the last talent:

She was dealing
15.299 damage with her battle skill and
17.675 damage with her ultimate skill.

CONCLUSION:
absolutely no change to the damage output for either battle skill, nor ultimate skill.
Yellow numbers were identical 100%

Gerthrin Battle skill says it deals 290% of Attack x 2.
5 man affinity bonus says skills deal additional 200% of Attack.
That means the Battle skill should now deal 290% + 200% = 490% of Attack. That should be an increase of 68.97% in battle skill damage so as a result Gerthrin Battle skill should deal more damage.

In second test, she should hit 25.850,
not the same 15.299 damage as in first test, before i put 1 point in last affinity bonus.

I know that increase sounds overpowered, but for the love of god, if it doesnt work that way then dont write the affinity bonus description that way.

Be clear and precise about what it does, 'cuz when people like me focus on spending all my points on something that sounds and should be powerfull, and forgo other also important talents in affinity tree, the moment you realize you've invested your precious points into something that is not working correctly is really dissapointing and a big let down.

Edit: 47.322 with Ultimate skill, not 17.675
But that is not even relevant

EDIT: I had Gerthrin without any triple set bonuses, and with 100% crit rate.
She wasnt getting any buffs other than occasionally 30% Crit damage from her passive, but then i noticed her battle skill went from 15.299 to 17.675 damage with that 30% crit damage increase.

[rancid quest]

My testing must more simple, put shorak and his 1st Battle Skill did 1962 and the next Battle Skill also deal 1962, disable Ult and the result for the rest of 60s he do the same thing

Also I got 2 point at this affix

[spark fable]

Dear travelers, thank you for your patience.

Regarding the ‘Final Ice/Radiance Affinity bonus’ issue you reported, in order to verify this issue, we need you to provide specific abnormal screen recordings and screenshots of the hero lineup.

After receiving the information you provide, we will help confirm it as soon as possible and look forward to your reply! @rancid quest @left saffron @abstract anchor

[meager sand]

More fixing, more bug huh?

[abstract anchor]

I don't know how i can record "no changes" after learning this Affinity passive. It's just not work. Ice/Radiance heroes have stable damage for battle and ultimate skills. Passive not give +200% attack to any next skills. And it's no any extra numbers around target.

[rancid quest]

There is no point to provide the videos cause we cant revert back to test this case.

All we know is the dmg isnt apply as the passive described, plus I do Vortex everyday with ICE/RAD setup(no weapon or stat changed) so I def sure the dmg isnt there, my score around 57-58mil like more than 1 week at the time no point in this affix

Till it 2/3

[snow trout]

I'll try to test it since I'm about to get lv1 in there but it will take a day or two to get leftovers from fay to get there

[spark fable]

@rancid quest @abstract anchor @meager sand Dear Travelers, thank you for your reply,
Please rest assured, we've reported the issue to the relevant team and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. Your patience is highly appreciated.
Thank you for your support and understanding!

[hazy quail]

can confirm it not working. quite underwhelming almost doing less damage in vortex after upgrading..

[rancid quest]

Now we challenge an Event Boss with bugged 5 man Affix, what a dissapoint!

[terse jay]

Still not working… I want my 1 hit in the event boss because of this!

[tall cobalt]

And losing more and more Vortex ranking because of this... 👍

[zealous bolt]

my beldelle has 4k atk. from 2 to 3 points dmg is the still same

[zealous bolt]

since my beldelle has 5 inspiration, 4k atk x 450% = 18000, 4k x 600% = 24000. if it only calculate as plain dmg only 6000 difference. i think they're not counting criticals.

[spark fable]

Dear traveler,

First and foremost, we would like to express our gratitude for your support and enthusiasm towards our game. We highly value your feedback and opinions, and we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused.

Upon thorough investigation by our team, we have identified that the issue at hand is a misrepresentation on the client side. In actual battles, the ice and radiance affinity bonus does take effect. The only discrepancy lies in the additional damage not being displayed as a damage pop-up, leading players to mistakenly believe that the bonus is not functioning.

We deeply regret any confusion and inconvenience this misunderstanding may have caused you. We have acknowledged this issue and are committed to optimizing the text display of the ice/radiance affinity bonus in future updates, ensuring a clear depiction of its effects. We will make every effort to ensure that all aspects of the game provide a transparent and satisfying experience.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to reach out to us. We are here to assist you to the best of our abilities.

Wishing you a delightful time in the game!

[terse jay]

Why are you lying?!

[burnt oriole]

Why are you lying?!

[earnest tangle]

@terse jay @burnt oriole Dear Traveler,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Rest assured that we will convey all your inquiries and original statements to the relevant technical team. The technical team will conduct thorough testing and code inspections, and the support team will relay their response to all players. Therefore, please be assured that we are committed to providing genuine assistance to all players.

If you have any further questions or concerns about this conclusion, please provide detailed information on the areas of doubt and share your account details along with any relevant testing videos.

Your understanding and cooperation are greatly appreciated.

[earnest tangle]

@burnt oriole @terse jay Dear Traveler,

We've thoroughly investigated the Affinity buff again, specifically the Ice/Radiance aspect. The numeric values appear to be functioning as intended. It's important to note that, in the final stage of the Frost/Light Affinity effect, it only applies to Battle Skills and Ultimate Skill. Moreover, this bonus damage is specific to skills that include damage components. Additionally, the bonus damage activates only once per skill usage.

If you have further concerns or questions, please feel free to provide more details about the specific situations in which you observed the issue. We are here to assist you and appreciate your understanding.

[strange sparrow]

1. Does it work with additional battle skills casts using ice crystals?
2. Can the additional damage from the affinity crit?

If so, the damage increase will be very noticeable on IB teams. +400% atk is like an extra battle skill every 2 casts.

[proper pike]

This should be a HUGE increase for Ice Blast, not feel like there's zero difference for some players.

[night ridge]

What Flora says adds up btw. None of you are doing proper tests and it's really annoying, i would do a full test and make sure something is not working when you post in the future. My test is lower tier vortex ice MC 100 crit chance Build , 4 frost heroes that die early so they have no influence of the fight.
1st Picture shows the the MC is about to do the battleskill.
2nd after battleskill is done u can clearly see the numbers.
3rd calculating total dmg(1st pic) + the battleskill damage dealt = you can see that total dmg is more meaning that Flora said is right , the numbers don't pop up on the screen but are calculated in total damage. stop spreading false info over and over again so many bug posts are a waste of time.

for reference like i said 100 % crit chance build and i have only 1/3 affinity point for the last tree ,i will run another test when i get 2/3 to see the jump between the skill points but i already know it works just some people will not understand this prolly for whatever reason and will come out with the next tin foil hat theory

[strong marsh]

My damage did increase with every point

5 vortex run back to back exact same team and items, 2 points into affinity

Everything same with the other 5, only difference is 1 more point into the last affinity

My damage went from 41-42m to 43-44m with 1 point in affinity

I cant understand what kind of tests you guys do that you dont see any difference between 0 and 3 points

[night ridge]

No valid tests if you scroll all the way through the post.

[strong marsh]

I did check everytime I put point into it and damage increased everytime but decided to do 5 run each just cause I keep seeings these messages

and as you can see the difference is clear

it is working

[night ridge]

yeah well it's because full runs are not the best tests because things may vary of crit chance/ice blast stacks but in your case it's very stable in all 5+5 runs can clearly see the difference

so you obv have proper gear

[strong marsh]

my both dps has %100 crit chance

[night ridge]

yeah that's why it's clear difference

and a valid test

[strong marsh]

only shinnah doesnt have %100 but she is a support so

[amber quartz]

It works no gear change same team damage went up. I did lot more then 5 runs. 26mil to 29mil. Went to 31 mil to 34 mil.

[earnest tangle]

Traveler, Question 1. The inherent implementation mechanism of the additional skill from the Ice Crystal effect is to reset the cooldown, essentially triggering the skill again. If the skill includes damage, it can activate the Ice/Radiance Affinity effect.

Question 2. The additional damage from the Ice/Radiance Affinity effect does not have a critical hit chance.

[worn ledge]

I can confirm this is not working. Yesterday, I struggled to get 15m on vortex. Today, I got the points required to upgrade the passive from 1 to 2. However, When I did my vortex run, I still hit just barely over 15m. There was no boost with the upgraded psychore

[earnest tangle]

Dear traveler, since we have tested it many times and there is no abnormality, please provide the video recording of your test and related comparison screenshots and account information for verification. Thank you for your understanding.

[spark fable]

Dear traveler,

1. If the skill has damage, it can trigger the affinity effect of ice crystals

2: the additional damage from the affinity does not crit

If you have any other questions, just let us know.

[strange sparrow]

So the additional damage is a separate hit that does not crit... this is not in the description. Are the other affinities also coded to work this way? Maybe this is why people are reporting low damage increase in other affinities too?

Regardless, it's a decent damage boost to ice blast teams because of their rapid-fire use of battle skills and will prob be too overpowered if it crits. For other teams though, the damage boost would be hardly noticeable. I think this is bad game design to have a bonus that last the whole season only benefit one kind of team and not others.

[worn ledge]

Then you haven't tested well

[night ridge]

you have not tested well. @worn ledge we have literal proof if you scroll up that it works, you have no valid tests

[worn ledge]

I did the exact same test and had different results. Multiple runs with 1 points and got between 14.8m to 15.3m. I did multiple runs again with 2 points and got 15.1m and 15.2m. There was no difference. There is more going on than what 1 person observes. If many people are reporting an issue about this, then there is likely an issue that comes up when certain parameters are met

[night ridge]

there are no valid tests

show your tests idc about how you feel , and also it doesn't really matter multiple people by now have tested it and it obviously works, look at my test there is no way you can say it doesn't work it has literall steb by step pictures of how the skill works

you are just talkign about your feelings not actual tests stop it . it is really waste of time to talk your feelings in bug report

[worn ledge]

Yep, it generated a difference in values for you. I am not speaking about feelings. I have given literal numerical values. Clearly, you are the one running on emotion based on how aggressive you are being

[night ridge]

we have ran tests by now btw in radiant/frost and IB and it works , people just don't know how to run proper tests

you have no proof and no evidance of your tests , your word is not something anyone can go by as shown before in this post.

[worn ledge]

Unfortunately, I did not expect there to be an issue, so I did not take screenshots of my runs from the previous day. All I would be able to show is my final result from "yesterday" and my final result from "today" and showing there is no damage increase

[night ridge]

i can't believe it's still a discussion when there is literal proof thrown at your face. yeah that's not a valid test , you need a proper setup

[worn ledge]

It's a 5 man frost/radiance with ice blast. It's proper

[night ridge]

your vortex damage can always vary unless you do a proper run like the person that did it when you scroll up. Facts are not under discussion you are goign by how you feel

i can't believe i still have to discuss this

idk how many tests will it take

[worn ledge]

I am going to block you because the way you speak is incredibly toxic

[night ridge]

it's kinda insane i guess i have to waste another 40k points into the tree i am not even using

[worn ledge]

It's aggressive and not conducive to discussion

[night ridge]

how can i not be you are ignoring actual numbers and tests

you are being insane for keeping this useless "bug report" going when every test shows you it's working

[strange sparrow]

to be fair there is a bug because the way it works is not in line with the description. as your tests have shown, the end result to dps is negligible.

[night ridge]

i think it's super solid increase for all affinities . it's pretty balanced overall.

but descriptions are always vague i agree with you i would like a real rundown that shows Attack scalings and whatnot, says if it's total attack / base attack or bonus attack just anything

[strange sparrow]

in your test, it's a 200 damage increase over 16s approximately... is that super solid in your eyes?

[night ridge]

i think you are looking at the wrong test

my test wasn't about that anyway look at my character it has 2k attack and 100 $ crit chance i did not build it with intent to show the dmg increase but to show that it works so people stop saying it doesn't work

[strange sparrow]

prev seasons we got increases like +40% atk in the last tier... this time round, it's like worse than the lower tiers

[night ridge]

why would you compare to previous season it's irrelevant

i am comparing this season all nodes

we could run proper tests to see how the numbers work with damage increase

[strange sparrow]

so you showed that there was a miniscule damage increase... it doesn't mean that it's working as the description says

[night ridge]

but we should end this discussion about IF it works or not i think at this point anyone who thinks it doesn't work is a crazy person

it is not miniscule at all.

[strange sparrow]

it is miniscule

[night ridge]

just check again my picture 1 and 2 is 1 second apart

how is this miniscule

this was the extra dmg added after the battleskill cast

[strange sparrow]

2435 over two skill casts

[night ridge]

how is that 2 skill casts lol?

i am dealing with crazy again

[strange sparrow]

the damage bonus is appled over 2 skill casts is it not?

[night ridge]

it's after 1 skill cast

but i have pcitures and even did math for you so u don't have to

the picture is 1 second apart like i said

it's before the cast as you can see the animation is about to happen in the first picture look at the character battleskill symbol

[strange sparrow]

the bonus applies additional damage every 2 skills, so it's applied every 2 skill casts... that's the way it works

[night ridge]

well it applied on this 1 cast

the example i am showing is on this battleskill cast

u can just calculate the numbers yourself right

it's 2435 dmg increase on this battleskill cast

it's right there everything

[snow trout]

Before and after leveling up ice affinity level one

[night ridge]

idk where u got 200 btw

such random number

idk how can u get that with info i provided

[strange sparrow]

ice adventurer doesn't do damage on ult right? so only the battle skill counts... so it's 2435 dmg every 32 seconds or so

[night ridge]

the ult is turned off

it's not the point of this test like i said sheesh

i don't dunerstand why is this happening

[snow trout]

There is no bug ✅
Sorry for the delay

[night ridge]

we can run a different test of how much dmg it deals but it clearly WORKS

[strange sparrow]

and my point that you're not getting is that the damage is not in line with what the description says

[night ridge]

why i used ice MC btw is because multiple people ran the tests with IB and Radiant and it worked for them so i wanted to test the last thing left - frost and the bonus works for ALL OF THEM that is the point of this test

this is what the tests are about so people stop saying it's not working at all, the dmg increase is not minimal at all

[strange sparrow]

2435 damage every 2 skill casts is minimal

[night ridge]

it's also only 1/3 nodes btw

[strange sparrow]

still minimal

[night ridge]

and again not the point of the test my character is lvl 70 with 2k attack

i had 0 intention to test the dmg output

i can do that later tho

[strange sparrow]

yes it's still minimal taking all that into account

[night ridge]

i hate running tests with multiple IB characters because of how ice blast stacks interact it's a bit more random but can do gerth solo

[strange sparrow]

as i said above, it's a decent boost for IB teams cos they do consecutive battle skills, but for any other team, the damage increase is a joke

[night ridge]

but do you agree that people that say that it doesn't work at all and there is 0 dmg increase are crazy that is my only point , i have not done tests of how much the dmg icnrease is i will not that debate that with you since there is no valid tests

[strange sparrow]

and i'm willing to bet it's cos they screwed up the coding.

[night ridge]

this is from valid source for radiant for example

[strange sparrow]

i'm looking at your own test to draw my conclusions

[night ridge]

but you said ice mc doesn't do ult so i should run a new test , fair?

[strange sparrow]

if you wish.. what i see is a 2% increase in battle skill damage but only every 2 skill casts

[night ridge]

but it's not 2% right?

skill did 11079 the node did 2435

also it's 6 % increase fo the philto u see up there

i am pretty sure it's with 1/3 node i might be wrong

def not 3/3

[strange sparrow]

if that;s the case that it's a lot more it seems

[night ridge]

but check the picture i am not making things up u know

like i said my 2 pictures are 1 second apart - before the battleskill lands and after you can clearly see that

so all you have to do is Ice MC Total Dmg + Battleskill dmg = 79319+11079= 90398

[strange sparrow]

ok that's a 22% increase in battle skill damage over 2 skill casts...

[night ridge]

but that's why i say it works

i would like to run proper test with something like Gerth with 4k attack and 100 % crit chance for solid tests

[strange sparrow]

looks much better then

[night ridge]

yeah i think so too

but i understand the questions about the description tho like you said it doesn't state if it crits or not all the other things they have to clarify outside the game, it's not good

[strange sparrow]

i initially thought it would be part of the skill but turns it's a separate hit and doesn't crit and also gets it's own defense reduction i assume

[night ridge]

i personally wasn't too high on this affinity i know people went nuts for it but in my gaming exp these fancy type of interactions always don't work out the same way people expect

@strange sparrow i think the same thing btw it's also defense reduction

that's why it's not clearly easy to calculate the number it has provided from my test

you can clearly see it takes defense into calcualtion and it can't crit

[strange sparrow]

at first i was wondering how they would include it with skills that did multiple-hits... but i guess it makes sense it just applies once no matter how many hits there are