Lelvawins Ultimate is not working correctly

[tender remnant]

Damage does not increase after reaching 20 stacks

[turbid viper]

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Thank you for your support and understanding. 🙏

[uneven verge]

I think that you are misunderstanding the skill.
It means that each pet will give 5% damage and the more pets the more damage. It doesn't mean that it will add a permanent 5% for the next ultimate per pet.
If you have 1 pet it is 5%. If there are 20 then it is 100% and casting it a second time won't mean 200% but just 100% again.
Your screenshots show 4 every time so the bonus is 20% each time.

[tender remnant]

That's right, but the description says that for every Summon sacrificed, the damage increases by 5% indefinitely.

[smoky helm]

I was always wondering about this - since it is not clearly worded. I beleive Prox is correct. This simply boosts the ultimate which sacrificed those minions by however many you sacrificed in that instance - it doesn't add permanent stacks after 20. This makes me sad as she is the weakest Exclusive by far in terms of damage - and could use that scaling to help Necrosis be competitive on boss content

[tender remnant]

This is most likely the idea that the damage every time by 5% of the sumon should increase. Because there's a reason they put "no upper limit" on the endings.

[uneven verge]

It does not say indefinitely. It says "with no upper limit". This means that there is no limit to how many summons will provide 5%. It does not mean that it is permanent.

[tender remnant]

So remove the endings and the meaning remains the same, why emphasize the process? In many other languages it is translated as infinity.

If damage increases by 5% per summon, then she's the weakest and most uncompetitive legendary hero of the exclusives.

[tender remnant]

https://youtu.be/hQeqsCRR-jw

[turbid viper]

Dear Traveler, thanks for your cooperation, the information you provided has been submitted to the related team by us, we believe that it will advance the progress of checking issues. If any progress, we will contact you at once.

[turbid viper]

Thank you for your patience, based on the video you provided we were unable to see Lelwanis' Dragon Blood tier. May I ask if Lelwanis was at 20 layers of Dragon's Blood with no damage boost when you tested it.
Looking forward to your reply!

[uneven verge]

She doesn't seem like a great pvp hero that is true, but I have seen her do well against me.
She is more of a long fight hero and once you are fighting in high ranks of pvp, the fights go on for longer.
At 20 stacks of her passive, she will have +30% attack +30% crit damage +35% defense ignore(53% if you have executioner set on her) which also means for the ultimate skill +140% damage and the 360% already on it that's a 500% ultimate skill whic his norm for full screen AoE hits across all legendary heroes. She now also gets an extra +5% damage per pet, 20% in your case.

So we have a 500% ultimate skill with
+30% attack
+30% crit damage
+35% defense ignore
+5% damage per summon sacrificed.

She is stronger than most once her stacks are full, but yes, she starts out fights mediocre.

[uneven verge]

If you look at the video again, you will see he dealt x damage when 4 summons were sacrificed and less damage when 2 were sacrificed. This effect should only be possible at 20 stacks.

[tender remnant]

I've made records with 20 stacks already. Most likely the hero is working correctly and you need to reword the description and remove the prefix without "no upper limit"

[uneven verge]

I have to agree with that.
With full stacks of Dragon Blood on the hero, upon every sacrificed allied undead creature, the damage will increase by 5%.
Would be enough.

The people confused by whether there is a limit to it or not, will be less than the people confused by "with no upper limit". When I first read it while browsing heroes, my first impression was that it would scale indefinitely just like Pipilsin thought.

[tender remnant]

360% is very low for a legendary exclusive hero. When others have 2-3 times more damage. So a constant % increase in damage was fine here.

[uneven verge]

Take premsta for example. 500% that's normal for full screen AoE. At 20 stacks Lelwanis will also have 500% on her ultimate plus all the other bonuses.
Sure Premsta triggers explosion on minions but it is 50% Derivative so you'd have to also build enlightenment on her by reducing her main damage just to deal the same damage basically lol and Lelwanis should still hit harder.

Ghul'ende is bonkers

Liiisten, I agree with you somewhat. But shouldn't the defense ignore make up for it?

[tender remnant]

Flora - 600+170% , Hvitar - 640%, Thelendor - 888% , nastja 360+(105%x2), Loter - 500%+passiv

[uneven verge]

Flora is single target. Hvitar needs a frost support to deal more damage or she hits like a wet noodle.

Overall the 20 stacks Lelwanis is scarier than a hvitar without Frost supporter.

This doesn't even do damage to me. She needs someone to apply frost for her.

They lasted 17 seconds. High rating pvp is a different world. That lelwanis would have to be built kind of tanky and the team live to her 20 stacks and she will be hitting the hardest in there.

[tender remnant]

I compared her on Vortex to the following heroes and she lost to all of them in terms of damage. Philto, Huberg, Auster, Ghulande, Berengar, Errich. Dokuraz, Sadok, all do more damage. Voresh have 10% less damage

We're waiting to hear back from the developers. Perhaps there should be a permanent priprost for 5%.

[smoky helm]

It's a good point, she is still fine for PvP and AoE content. She is more like Hvitar. But Hvitar has execute and deals more damage, and needs no ramp up - just frost applied, which is really not hard to do.

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