#poison team less dmg after patch

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gritty hedge
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My poison team does less damage.Goblin lairs and vortex i do every day and they do much less damage than they should do. In pictures below i did vortex before the patch(u will see vicana has 61% of the dmg dealt) and vortex after the patch(vicana has 44% of the dmg dealt) its not just vicana that has lower dmg is twitch and durango also and they are all poison element. In goblin lairs i play goblin lair II stage 4 and end up with 2 marks(middle reward) and after patch i cant get middle reward i get worst reward with 1 mark. I have same equipment and everything else nothing has changed and my team does less damage....

shrewd oak
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Dear Traveller, Thank you for taking the time to get in touch with us and for sharing your feedback.
Regarding your feedback about hero's damage, we would like to let you know that we've reported your feedback and passed it to the relevant team, we will check with the related team and get back to you as soon as possible.

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Upon checking we have confirmed that Vicana's ultimate skill description is to deal damage to the target and apply a mark to the target. Each time the marked enemy is inflicted with poison, a toxic blast is triggered, dealing Derivative Poison Damage to enemies within range.
But, the Derivative Poison Damage cannot trigger critical damage.

gritty hedge
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I get it that somethimes i will do better and worse each rum but last couple of days after i got durango i could always hit 4 mil mark on vortex boss and today i cant hit 3 mill

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Since i started playing i always used vicana and twitch in goblin lairs and last difficulty i unlocmed was goblin lair 2 stage 4 .
My team would always get middle reward of each run (2 marks) but this time i cant get 2 marks simply because i see my vicana, twitch and durango do way less dmg

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Im not crazy nor stupid im not some dumb kid playing these types of games for first time, im looking dmg of my team in everything i complete in game and im 100% sure they do way less dmg...devs must have do something

shrewd oak
# gritty hedge I know how vicana works, i meed to mark an enemy and ever poison debuff will app...

Sorry for the inconvience out game caused to you. We have verified that this is because we corrected the critical hit effect caused by Vicana's ultimate skill. Previously, we found that the Derivative Poison Damage caused by Vicana's ultimate skill was critting, but according to the definition of Derivative Damage, Vicana's ultimate skill should not be able to crit. Therefore, we made adjustments to Vicana's ultimate skill. 🙏

gritty hedge
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Well isnt that great... Even with crits it seemed like a good champ but now that her ult got fixed she seems way weaker which is not i wanted to summon for weak champ. I summoned targeting for her bcuz of that bug she seemed very good and thought of poison being very bad in this game and my main carry(vicana) being fixed into weaker version absolutely turns me away now from this game

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Invested money into her and now she even worse but there are heroes out there who need nerf more than her, with the bug she seemed very good if you had full poison team and now its time to quit

shrewd oak
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We apologize for any inconvenience caused. We take your gaming experience very seriously, we will carefully consider your suggestions.
Please don't be angry, we really care about every player's feelings and experience, and we hope this problem will not affect your mood. I believe that in the game you and your friends have very nice memories, please don't give up easily. Please believe that we have been working hard, and hope to be able to give all players a better gaming experience, please continue to support us, we also hope that you will be with us on the growing path of our game. 🫶

gritty hedge
# shrewd oak We apologize for any inconvenience caused. We take your gaming experience very s...

I do love this game but i spent money on targeted heroes like vicana that are "mid " now while there are others like flora who completely dominate . I thought that bug is part of vicana and i seriously thought theres nothing wrong with her until today where my team was half as strong as day before. And btw poison team is most difficult to build like accuracy for consistency of poison applied to target, enlightment to scale their dmg and on top of those i still have to look for def,atk and hp while other affinities only build attack , def, and hp

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Poison team is weakest in the game and rng decided to give me only poison legy heroes and i thought its ok since i have vicana to carry me, but her dmg got split in half and i cant see my way out of this than to give up since my team is really weak now and invested money is wasted

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I appriciate your work and in game events to keep the game fresh but my main and most fav hero is weak 😕

shrewd oak
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We really apologize for what happened. I'll forward your case to our dev team and they will do their best to work on your case. I'll get back to you as soon as the result comes back. 🙏

gritty hedge
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Thank you for solving my question i wish you good luck but here is where my journey ends. Goodbye😢

shrewd oak
sage marsh
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I want to say something here as well. I've been spending every resource I got on this game to make a viable Poison team. From being able to do 15m damage on vortex I went to like 5m. Why you guys don't nerf the Dauntless teams that everyone is using to get to like 50-60m dmg on boss instead of doing this. At least some kinda of compensation is needed on this case.

shrewd oak
# sage marsh I want to say something here as well. I've been spending every resource I got on...

Dear Traveller, thank you for sharing your feedback, we really appreciate it, Please don't worry, we will record your feedback as suggestion and pass it to the Dev team. We will definitely take this into consideration and do some more optimization in the future. thank you for your feedback. for the time being, I has not received the notice about compensation, but I will continue to help you submit your feedback and application. Thank you.

shrewd oak
# gritty hedge Thank you for solving my question i wish you good luck but here is where my jour...

Dear traveller, we apologize for the inconveniences caused to you.
We would like to let you know that this is a normal game balance adjustment. Based on the definition of Derivative Damage, we made adjustments to Vicana's skill.
Furthermore, we really appreciate your feedback and your support for our game. We will forward their feedback to the relevant team, we will definitely take this into consideration.
We recommend to you some in-game advices, such as equipping Vicana with suitable artifacts like Vile Link. This artifact is quite fitting for Vicana, as its equipment effect boosts Derivative Damage, which aligns perfectly with Vicana's ultimate skill applying non-critical additional damage.
For further information, please don't hesitate to contact us.
Thank you for your support and understanding.

rustic matrix
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Agreed on the balance of team types.
I have good poisoners and it works OKish
But I have no options for Dauntless & Wild setups.
I manage to get into top150 in my server consistently with it.
But to advance I checked the other teams above me.
Somehow, the majority is by far wild.
And from the 30ish I checked, none do it with a poison team.