Mech feedback

[celest grove]

Mech was just given a detailed mastery, allowing it to equip drills, laser beam cannons, and so much more!

Following this, the base version was also improved, but the boost from the Q is horizontal rather than vertical, complete with decreased duration.

And so, as per usual, we'd like to know what you love and hate about them, what needs a revamp, a buff or a nerf. PLEASE only vote if you have actually used them both for a while.

[ruby oasis]

Ok so what exactly does this do

Is it just barrier's passive

[violet ibex]

my main problem with mech is they

• have ALOT of hp
• outrun most abilities via dashing
• cannot be ragdolled, and recieve reduced knockback
• have "weird" hitboxes
• five. hundred. combo extenders.
  • essentially cannot be countered without god punch

[violet ibex]

like pick an ability 😭 you can't just excel in all of them...

[violet ibex]

the update has been so far, really annoying? mainly when everyone's using mech it becomes impossible to really survive using just about any ability

[celest grove]

i understand but this post is about the ability itself

[ruby oasis]

Today is a good day to be an archer main

[violet ibex]

👍 1

[ruby oasis]

Something something will give feedback later

[fickle escarp]

The eject seat is way too op

Its a full revive

Like make the mech explode around you NOT dealing damage and just pushing enemies back

And uhh u get like 40% hp when ejected

And i dont really like how u needa click R to use ur flying legs, its time consuming especially for mobile

Add a T to mech so like R and T are the legs for mech and E and Q the arms

No more unnecessary switching

[clear crow]

you literally turn into default and void kills still work

[frank topaz]

i think the mech mastery should not be in game if they are in the edit menu

[errant dove]

disgustingly overpowered, being able to punch during dash in mastered with two dashes at hand allows two combo extenders, these dashes also allows for you to movestack with moves like drill or ground slam, the kb immunity for mech makes it very hard to fight especially with the semi projectile immunity

[ruby oasis]

Whose idea was it to give it barrier's passive

[naive sequoia]

it was mine
it was meant to be an entirely different mechanic but it got changed

[ruby oasis]

Well screw you

[naive sequoia]

its not my fault it got changed???

i had a gimmick idea

[ruby oasis]

What is it

[naive sequoia]

dont think i can say

[ruby oasis]

wdym

[naive sequoia]

i cant say because its testing related

[ruby oasis]

...

ok but was it in some way related to

Outright projectile immunity

[naive sequoia]

It would have a gimmick in place that made you have to think to use projectiles

an actual counter

[ruby oasis]

So no?

[naive sequoia]

not outright immunity no

that was the sudden change

[ruby oasis]

Ok so it's just checken doing something stupid then?

[naive sequoia]

dont blame them
it was because aw's code isn't the best

[ruby oasis]

Yeah but surely they could have made something that isn't

One of the most flawed passives

2.0

[naive sequoia]

i dont know okay

[earnest osprey]

They murdered Mech

[errant dove]

This game loves adding full projectile protection instead of adding projectile damage and kb fall off

[half geyser]

Add console support to mech mastery

[rugged cosmos]

wow we cant rangeslop anymore

[half geyser]

I literally can't select parts when customizing the mech

[unkempt burrow]

drill is kinda op ngl

[rugged cosmos]

yeah

but eject seat is useless

and there isnt much customization

[ruby oasis]

Oooo powercreep ooooo

[rugged cosmos]

and the mastery unlock description just lies

[ruby oasis]

Really takin the slap battles route huh

[earnest osprey]

Why does everyone assume I run and use my ranged attacks

that's actually pathetic

[half geyser]

Just make the virtual cursor able to select it

[errant dove]

Double dashing is so busted

[rugged cosmos]

because you said the ability was murdered

[earnest osprey]

Because it was

[errant dove]

Base Mech got buffed

[rugged cosmos]

nerfed technically

[errant dove]

It isn’t good against other mech users

[rugged cosmos]

anyways is anyone going to mention that the mastery unlock description lies

[ruby oasis]

No like imagine this
A fat tanky fuck with combo's dashes, moves that do a ton of damage, ragdoll immunity and partial projectile immunity

[unkempt burrow]

most aw players use ranged abilitys like that

[rugged cosmos]

it says the parts are unlocked one by one

[earnest osprey]

I'm not in the most

[errant dove]

I feel like conquest with mech mastery

[ruby oasis]

What do you think about the harmonics generator

[rugged cosmos]

i love it

haha

[ruby oasis]

Tell me how exactly the harmonics generator works

[ruby oasis]

ok you are a lost cause

[errant dove]

Aw testers seems really good at making fun abilities but not the greatest with balancing

[ruby oasis]

SO REAL

Say, can you explain how exactly the harmonics generator works

[errant dove]

Basically projectile immunity that get worse the lower your hp is

[ruby oasis]

as in?

[rugged cosmos]

theres not enough features just like with internet

[unkempt burrow]

leg mode with default legs needs a nerf like why is this boost usable twice

[errant dove]

You take zero to little damage from projectiles

And no kb happens at all

[ruby oasis]

so it has 100% uptime?

[errant dove]

I haven’t noticed since non mech users get evaporated by movestacking

[ruby oasis]

gee how fun

And then it gets a random buff

Because checken is incompetent

[errant dove]

Imagine rage e with a dash on start up and kb immunity

[ruby oasis]

Get more info on the harmonics generator and give it to me

[errant dove]

That’s mech move stacking

[ruby oasis]

Fun.

Mech went from a rangeslop health chipper to a military grade paper shredder

[errant dove]

https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/mwYKyZOgb-UnQpHnL?invite=cr-MSwzNmgsMzY4MjQ0NzU0

attacks like archer pierce the anti projectile system

but baller balls require 3 hits to break

and it regens in 5 seconds

enough time to dash and attack

even defender has cd on switch

[naive sequoia]

i havent even been able to use the MT-D38-X SPHERICAL HARMONICS GENERATOR since its rework
im just now learning how bad it ACTUALLY is

😭

[errant dove]

but mech doesnt which allows movestacking

[ruby oasis]

ha

So

Now

[errant dove]

dash then ground breaker is the most free extender

[ruby oasis]

Answer my question

Shall I eradicate all mechs

For fun

[errant dove]

good luck bro

https://tenor.com/view/peace-gif-8229430019593501654

[ruby oasis]

Oh I won't need it

And neither will I need crossbow

[errant dove]

checken also allowed punching during dashes

[ruby oasis]

I do not fear them

[errant dove]

i wonder if checken ignores most of the testers comments

[ruby oasis]

For I have something terrible prepared

[errant dove]

    | Head  | Arms  | Torso | Legs
------------------------------------
25  | Eject | Plasm | Energ | Tread
50  |       | Drill |       |
100 |       |       |       |
150 |       |       |       |
?   |       |       |       |

[ruby oasis]

Also, got any more things to tell?

Regarding mech

[errant dove]

Mech kb immunity doesn’t get removed at a hp percentage

Shadow buff I think

[ruby oasis]

Also, besides archer, what do you think are the best abilities to deal with mech mas menaces

Yup we got mega knight in aw

[proud pivot]

my only issue with the mastery is the plasma beam hitbox

[errant dove]

UFO mastery

[ruby oasis]

oh of course.

This shitty slop

Sad excuse of an ability

What else

[errant dove]

Cosmo mastery if they fixed the bug

Nvm debuff isn’t fixed

Ass game

[ruby oasis]

Say, why does the harmonics generator not affects archer

[errant dove]

Idk

Probably poorly coded

army mastery got butchered

only e

[rugged cosmos]

to not piss off the big MMM

[errant dove]

the home point despawns

[ruby oasis]

wait

[errant dove]

6 minions

what the fuck is this

they put so much effort into nerfing abilities that arent even top 10

[ruby oasis]

They got rid of an actual problem (0 downtime) without giving anything in return

of course.

[ruby oasis]

It sould be really funny if it was the case but it'd probably because the projectile has to specifically have kb maybe???

[haughty minnow]

nobody talks about army nerf🥀

[errant dove]

scroll up

[cobalt latch]

mech mas is fun to play, very op,
the drill is evil, and no ragdolls is broken

[rocky beacon]

Playing with literally any ability other than mech or smth w a lot of movement like spring is impossible simply from the sheer amount of ppl using mech. Not to mention you either get drilled literally by someone using 2 at once, or half your health incinerated by plasmas

[glacial jewel]

mech didn't need to have it's size decreased

[amber gust]

barrier passive

[crystal forum]

Really, if the bug where everyone gets all parts instantly got fixed and maybe you buffed the price per part to like 50, the chaos and amount of op mech mastery users should devrease

[crystal forum]

Mech mastery is basically mahoraga and I love how it can suit anyone's playstyle

[torn valve]

Hey uh best mech build?

Or atleast the best option for 1 ability since I just got 25 kills

[crystal forum]

Its bugged rn so you immediately get all parts

[torn valve]

oh dang which part should I get 😭

[crystal forum]

It depends, but if you wanna be Ranger use default legs, ejector seat, default arm and plasma cannon arm, and energy core

This let's you use 12 bullet arm as primary and plasma cannon for extra ranged firepower. Probably not the most powerful but pretty fun

[torn valve]

yea the ranger looks good, I'm tryna be one that idk just does hella dmg

and doesnt mind chasing people

Jus be op fr 😭

[crystal forum]

Well you can do Hella dmg rly it just depends on playstyle

[torn valve]

whats the highest dmg thing rn for the arms

the drill right?

[crystal forum]

If you duel weird plasma cannons and use them both at the same time it can do pretty high dmg if you consistently land it

But you gotta be somewhat accurate

[torn valve]

alright

I'll get the plasma cannon

[crystal forum]

Also if your gonna do trees you should have atleast one default legs for dash and jump

[torn valve]

ngl I intend to do 1 plasma and 1 for esomething else

[crystal forum]

Treds*

[torn valve]

like 1 for long range, 1 for close

[torn valve]

yeah

[crystal forum]

Well do you want to bully non mechs or have a dash

[torn valve]

bully non mechs like I wanna be op 😭

[crystal forum]

The groundbreaker arm is for bullying nonsense because the initial fist does damage on top of the aoe so you basically punch them then fling them up into the air if your close

[torn valve]

Dang alright so I'll def use the groundbreaker arm

yea prolly 1 tread, groundbreaker arm, energy core and idk what for the other arm

and ejector fs

[crystal forum]

Default is more spamming and has more ragdoll but plasma cannon does more dmg

[torn valve]

hm

I'll check em both out

[crystal forum]

Yeah js experiment with it, the customization is what makes it so fun

[torn valve]

not a big fan of the treads I prefer legs 💔

[glacial jewel]

the treads are pretty weak

all the arms are pretty cool and have their uses

i just wish there was a reason to use default over some of the other parts

plasma cannon is objectively a better normal mech arm and you'll have no reason to use default head part due to it having no benefits over ejector seat

also imo the mech changes/nerfs this update should be reverted or toned down a bit

[torn valve]

yea ejector seat is op

bro but ngl this mech mastery is kinda sad

like every server its always mech and I assume

itll be like that for a WHILE

[glacial jewel]

i think its cool but it would be so much better if they didn'

didn't nerf mech into the ground

[torn valve]

but I mean a mech mastery, what do u expect lmao

[torn valve]

yea they shouldnt have gaven it a mastery and just made it good

then given something else a mastery

[glacial jewel]

well you see it already was good before

but they hit it pretty hard this update

[torn valve]

bro

I was so shocked

when I got mech like a few months ago

I thought it was the most op thing in the game it sucked

[glacial jewel]

its decietful

it looks really bad on paper but in reality its actually super powerful

https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/lT7g3AmQ2Sfbdu4dA?invite=cr-MSxrTWcsMjYzNjE5MzA2&v=13

im gonna miss the old mech if they dont revert those changes

the E nerf was justified but honestly everything else was unneeded

maybe a Q nerf to the height it sent you but thats it

im sure there are shadow changes for mech in there too

like always

[torn valve]

dang

Never knew u could use that with mech

maybe the nerf was for the better dang

but yeah mech is hella annoying rn, as much as I love to use it its kinda annoying

[crystal forum]

Yeah, the only problem is have with mech is the horizontal dash cause its weak for unmastered and very spamming for mastered,

[glacial jewel]

i hate it so much

[crystal forum]

Vertical q would be cool

[glacial jewel]

they better revert the Q

https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/mubUskDJcZMWgQ45u?invite=cr-MSx1WHksMjYzNjE5MzA2&v=11

like i cant do this anymore

[crystal forum]

But the smaller mech makes the hitbox feel usable without mastering the ability

[crystal forum]

Lol

But the height was a balanced evasive move, now its just pure movement and very spamming like trees are useless cause who needs that when you can be faster

The only use tred has is if you want to live 5 seconds longer

[gleaming mauve]

Awwwww I love the mech mastery

But it does need improvements I think there energy core should release a consistent beam laser

[timber gull]

Two drill hands, harmonize and default legs (combined) are so good. It really gives crazy movement and great combos.

I think that the tread legs should give a higher movement than what it is rn, drills should have less movement distance and harmonize idk but it should be nerfed. Also more options would be cool in future updates

[crystal forum]

Harmon should have an actual recharge time

[gleaming mauve]

I think it does already when it reaches limit it doesn’t protect u no more but it doesn’t need a better cooldown

[crystal forum]

Yeah, the recharge is way to fast

[gleaming mauve]

Yea I gonna make a suggestion for mech mastery changes because there somethings that needs improvement and balancing

[crystal forum]

Not only that but the horizontal boost gives way too much mobility, like dude it already has high jumps

[gleaming mauve]

U not lying bro the boost also u get a crazy combo extender I was able get 4 punches in by doing both boosts plus with the drill and plasma cannon combo it insane 😭

[crystal forum]

Once again, nerf its mobility

[graceful meadow]

Its so bad and not fun to play with

[cobalt latch]

you're bad and not fun to play with

[gleaming mauve]

Mech mastery is not bad

[crystal forum]

It is annoying basically being forced to use mech

[eager coyote]

make it so if u jump than u use the air flight ver of mobility

[crystal forum]

Ok ima say it, mech is way too op, powerful range, powerful close range, great mobility, and worst of all basically imune to projectiles?!

[gleaming mauve]

Yea idk why they made it immune to projectiles mech is already immune to ragdoll and knockback resistance

[low sentinel]

its cool but like i think eject seat should be a manual thing so they have to be skillful with it

[bitter ginkgo]

2 drills is literally just berserker 2.0 (its more powerful than berserker...)

[cobalt latch]

2 drills, 2 default legs, meta

S tier, low diff vs plasma

[bitter ginkgo]

yeah, you have like larger hitboxes than berserker and also a lot of mobility

[gloomy gazelle]

Trash

[knotty cloud]

the mech mastery is very overpowered with just the right combos(drill, drill, and normal legs) you can bombard your enemy with loads of burst damage. Not only i think that all of the x's need to be replaced with something

because what do you mean that legs and head only have one other option?

i feel like if we nerf some of the current ones, drill to be exact. and add more variety for EACH category this would make the mech alot more worth it and fun to play

[crystal forum]

Yes, and fix the bug where you instantly get all parts!

[knotty cloud]

yeah

[knotty cloud]

it made me think there was more

[misty halo]

eject seat should be reworked

my idea is that when ejecting you'd have only 60 HP and deal 8 damage minus ragdoll, also the mech itself would have 20 less max health, BUT you'd have an E after ejecting that, on use, calls a new mech, though it'd have a 50s cd when ejecting

[ruby oasis]

you're just better off resetting atp

[misty halo]

then remove eject seat instead

[knotty cloud]

idk the ejector seat can be really helpful to finish them off if the fight was a close one

[frank topaz]

i think the plasma cannon is pretty underpowered

[gleaming mauve]

Yea kinda but if u have two of them it does like half their hp if u fire both of them and energy core makes them do even more damage

[loud pecan]

there should be more parts and sum sorta thing to purchase them in one life to not get parts instantly

[knotty cloud]

you have no idea, i thought because of the dome shape and the body. there wouldve been more options

but there are currently 2 head options and 3 body options

obv its just art, but it made me think that they added alot more to mech mas

which they did but i just dont know why they didnt add 5 options per category

[crystal forum]

Yeah, its sorta a let down and the balancing around mech and the whole update kinda sucked

[stark gazelle]

I think they should add more parts to mech mastery and do some sort of rework to unmastered mech. They’re basically the exact same

[graceful meadow]

Expectation vs Reality💔

[misty halo]

fr

[high rune]

The only valid complaint here is out running and hitboxes, everything else is a non issue

[violet ibex]

it lacks counters

like any counter at all

[high rune]

Malice

Alchemist

[violet ibex]

if a mech decides to run and gun you you're just GONE

[high rune]

Bounty hunter

[violet ibex]

alchemist and malice lose to drill

so does bounty

since drill is still ridiculously unbalanced

[high rune]

Drill isn't that crazy bro 😭

Easily avoidable

Has a windup

Anything ranged can beat a mech

[violet ibex]

mech mastery powercreeps alot of masteries

[violet ibex]

but yeah i suppose

[violet ibex]

tbf EVERYTHING powercreeps cosmos 💔

[high rune]

Cosmos is used by runners

They dont deserve anything

[tulip creek]

Noe tey are not tat guds

Only cake pulse pirat jello

Ors midas

Or jus everi abilitoi

[high rune]

Can't tell if you speak like this on purpose or not no offense 😭

[tulip creek]

Am spek on purpos

[knotty cloud]

no bro

[glacial jewel]

i've realized the issue with mech i think

they removed like

ALL of it's vertical movement and abilities

it cant even jump up onto the shack anymore

it's jump height was BUTCHERED

might be fair, but they basically replaced it's vertical mobility for horizontal mobility

it can run really well now, it just cant go up high anywhere

also the tread legs are REALLY bad

they hardly make you any faster (especially considering they dont let you use the thruster dash move thing)
and the inability to jump makes them worse in every way to default legs, the health increase is negligable

the moment your opponent steps up a little ledge you can no longer reach them

[ruby oasis]

Why did plasma cannons get nerfed they were already on the lower end

Especially considering that mech meta rn is

double normal leg double drill/whatever that other arm that hit the ground was with harmonics generator/power core

[glacial jewel]

default arms are actually the best

you cant beat the OG in terms of damage

[knotty cloud]

plasma cannon nerf???????

it was already horrible

[glacial jewel]

ok to be fair

plasma cannon is actually really good people just used it wrong

u gotta use both cannons at the same time

it DECIMATES people's HP, even after the nerf

that nerf was probably fair, i dont really want to know what the previous damage would've been like

[novel inlet]

Here my feedback for the Mech mastery.

Its prob one of the easiest mastery to unlock to current times, is it a bad thing? no.

I think that the mech mastery needs more parts and mostly (more creative parts) because the current ones are very basic in each one usage and with in shake up to mostly 3 playstyles ''Bralwer, ranged.'' and its kind of make the mastery lose a bit of what in my opinion made it unique.

and lastly, i think that the complains about mech being ''too strong'' comes mostly from people who don't know how easy it his to combo mech, and all you rlly need is spacing.

in the end, its a good mastery, would have been more appreciated if it has more building variety (more cores, head parts, legs, and some new arms.)

Examples: corrosive arms, press the ability button to release in a cascade in front of you in a 5 meter range acid that deals decent damage and reduces defense for like 10 seconds.
Claw legs: allows the uses to walk on all walls, getting damaged make lose the grip, possible nerfs to movement speed, unless actively attached to a wall, in that case its normal movement speed.
Rocket cabin: if the mech dies, the cabin transform into a missiles that gets lanched and move similarly to pirate cannon shoot, when lading, kills the mech user and deals explosion similar to nuke.

[novel inlet]

I could give more ideas, if anyone intrested.

[misty halo]

i think it should give a singular part for every 25 kills, going in the order of treads, energy core, plasma cannon, ejector seat, groundbreaker, harmonic thingy, then finally the drill, that way it'd take actual grinding to max it out

also imo the drill needs a rework

i think the way drill should work is that on use you burrow into the ground using it, having no speed increases while underground, then after 1.5s or when pressing the ability again you'd resurface with a large hitbox, dealing around 15 damage and launching upward, this'd have a 14s cooldown (longer than other abilities) and cooldowns would pause while underground to prevent using it for stalling

also drill would combo well with groundbreaker, this'd make sense due to the fact that one breaks the ground for defense and the other breaks the ground for offense

[novel inlet]

I don't think its a good idea, in the end, mech is not one of the strongest abilitys in the game, and the mastery with all the parts don't level it up has much has other masterys do.

[misty halo]

being skilled at mech lets you hit people with no chance of them hitting you

the hitbox is decently large

plus the laser barrage is still quite strong

[novel inlet]

its extremly ability and ping dependent

[misty halo]

i mean i guess

but basically everything's ping dependent

[novel inlet]

by that i mean way mor than any other ability

[misty halo]

also getting like over 50% of the mastery at 25 kills is kinda way too easy

[novel inlet]

for an abilitys that is not extremely powerfull, its fair.

[misty halo]

maybe they could change it to 50 kills for the starting 4 parts, 100 kills for the next set of 4 parts (drill, groundbreaker, harmonic thingy, whatever the next part added will be)

[novel inlet]

all it does is had a ''customization feather'' to an already existing ability, i would agree with you if there way more option to customise the arms legs and the rest.

[misty halo]

then 150 kills for another set of parts

[novel inlet]

or simply had a new set of part after the current one in the next 25-25-25 kills.

again, the current ones are not enough to justify an increase the requirement for the mastery.

[misty halo]

maybe it'd be like
25 - Plasma cannon, Treads
50 - Drill, Groundbreaker
75 - Eject seat, energy core
100 - Harmonic thingy, a new part
125 - more stuff
etc

[novel inlet]

No, what i meant is .

25-plasma cannon, treads, drill, groundbreaker, eject seat, energy core, harmonic thingy.
50- new part
75- new parts

etc.

[misty halo]

getting THAT much stuff just for 25 is too easy

i'd say mech's powerful enough to justify 2 parts per 25 kills

[novel inlet]

again, has i previously mentioned, compared to other masterys, mech is the least impactfull in terms of gameplay and active change in straight.

the current parts (exept like 2 possibly) are not strong to the point of an increase.

[misty halo]

my other idea is:
25 - Treads, Groundbreaker, Drill, Core
50 - Harmonic thingy, Plasma cannon
75 - Eject Seat, New thing
100 - 2 New things
125 - 2 New things
150 - 4 New things

so most milestones would give 2 but some would give 4

[novel inlet]

Core should be incase put higher, the two parts that should not be in the 25 are both the Ant-projectile core and the eject seat.

[misty halo]

core's pretty balanced due to reducing HP by 20

i'd say it fits as a starter mastery item

plus the core's glass cannon style would help with getting kills

[novel inlet]

i was talking about the anti-projectile core.

prob didnt understood well what u mentioned earlier.

[misty halo]

yeah that harmonic thingy needs a nerf

i think it should give a health debuff like the energy core

[novel inlet]

Not neede, it just needs to either be moved to an higher kill-count, or give it a cool-down.

[misty halo]

making it cost more wouldn't fix the fact that it's stupidly strong

maybe changing the shield's HP from 3 projectiles to just like 20 actual HP would be good

(it'd still only block projectiles)

[novel inlet]

its the passive of barrier, its not that strong

[misty halo]

barrier's passive makes it completely immune to projectile abilities which is kinda op

[novel inlet]

. . .

[misty halo]

mech's version has the same issue though it's slightly less op due to not blocking tiny ones

[novel inlet]

then why even propose to nerf it?

[misty halo]

it's still got the same issue

abilities like baller (defender) and bounty mas are essentially useless against a mech with it

[novel inlet]

that why its considered a counter pick, not the funnyest system, but its still a thing

[misty halo]

i guess

[rugged cosmos]

You're underestimating Mech like crazy. The mastery IS one of the strongest abilities and all you really need to do is work around the large hitboxes.

Also you are supposed to be unlocking a single part every 25 kills, not all at once.

[errant dove]

Ability wars panic nerfs abilities to make themselves look good at balancing

[ruby oasis]

SO REAL

And yet I don't see any nerfs towards ufo mas

Which is arguably top 1

[errant dove]

They probably don’t know about punching during boost

[ruby oasis]

For the simple reason of:

It's spectator but can attack people

[errant dove]

(To do you punch then q which tricks the game into letting you punch)

This can guarantee lots of damage if combined with cpc

[ruby oasis]

I know how that trick works

[errant dove]

I remember that one time they buffed Brickbattler super explosion damage from 55 to 65 during bb prime

[ruby oasis]

Something something it tricks the game into letting you punch after the punch cooldown ends

[errant dove]

Newer abilities can also stack which is really strong

[ruby oasis]

Sometimes it feels like when making balance changes they just

Hit their keyboard

Actually better theory

They ask their personal chat bot abilitygpt

[errant dove]

They search nerf in chat and listen to the blue and toothpaste roles

[ruby oasis]

Listen I get that listening to feedback is cool but

Not all feedback is good

That's also why games like these usually have dedicated balancer teams

Aka those that have actual game knowledge

[errant dove]

They haven’t done a tester application because testers aren’t “needed”

[ruby oasis]

And won't ask for a ufo mas buff (top 1 ability btw)

[errant dove]

Most of the testers don’t play aw that much

[ruby oasis]

Fraud allegations

[rocky beacon]

Top 10 reasons why aw should hire me as a tester

/balancer

[crystal forum]

Yk they referred to you as toothpaste role

[knotty cloud]

mech mastery rn is a good mastery. but it is just kinda boring due to the limited options

[rocky beacon]

who's teeth will i be cleaning...

[glacial jewel]

i want the parts to be less of direct upgrades ngl

like why ever use the default head when you could use ejector seat

or why ever use default torso when you could just use harmonics

the arms are fine tho, as the abilities are all pretty evenly balanced and have their use cases

i do think groundbreaker could use a buff, its damage is rather low for how close you have to get to enemies to use it

making it stun for longer or making it easier to hit could be an option

[novel inlet]

Mech is factually not that strong compare to the current meta, yes it has no ragdoll, yes it has a bigger hitbox, but he has has well a bigger hurtbox, cant combo unless there a wall, comboing mech is quite easy has all u need to know is basic ''spacing'', and the only thing that the mastery changes is the way players need to space depending on what arms the mech user id going for.

so again, the mastery is not that strong compare to others mastery.

so, making so that the mech mastery works by unlocking the current parts by 1 for each 25 kills would just make a mastery that does not change that much more annoying to unlock and in general, less of an incentive to get.

[novel inlet]

Another suggestion i could give about the Mech mastery,is giving the abilitys E and Q matching arms, for example, if the drill is in the right arm, Q activate it, if its in the left arms, E activates it.

[amber gust]

2 default leg
energy core
2 plasma cannon / 2 drill
ejector seat

[errant dove]

“Can’t combo unless there’s a wall”

Why are we lying

[crystal forum]

100% mech main

[ruby oasis]

his dna is 100% mech

[novel inlet]

Im trying to main warden, but never had any mains before warden.....so....yeah.

[rocky beacon]

Mech is finally balanced and still gets countered by mythic and spring so

It's ok now

[crystal forum]

Still kinda feels like an immovable fortress but thats just me

Atleast to use

[glacial jewel]

the strongest mech mastery arms will always be the default

you cannot beat that absolute HEALTH MELTER

drill may be annoying to dodge but it cant beat the damage of default

cant even come close actually

[ruby oasis]

The mech propaganda man

What do you think about mech mastery and the fact that it has barrier's passive but basically better

[glacial jewel]

im intimidated

though the boosts from energy core make gameplay a lot more thrilling

[ruby oasis]

Not really for me when the default legs are basically just a buff roll

Twice

The big mode buff roll to be specific

[glacial jewel]

if you use both of the dashes at the same time you can rocket towards people at mach ten

[ruby oasis]

Since for some reason you can punch during it

[glacial jewel]

worse for comboing

but good for catching people off guard

[glacial jewel]

i want a mech leg part that sacrafices your movement speed in turn for giving you an upwards thruster move

was a fun part about mech and having some of that vertical mobility again would be nice

a mech leg that lets you perform high jumps similar to rabbit could be nice too

especially considering mech’s ground stomp move deals a decent chunk of damage now

[novel inlet]

better? barrier has a constant passive, while the mech passive has a coll-down after a bit.

[ruby oasis]

Barrier too has some downtime

The difference is that it can be clearly seen on mech, and cannon on barrier

You'd know that if you played against barriers

[novel inlet]

but barrier is a 360° protection, while mech only has 180°

again, mech passive of barrier is not has strong has the actual barrier which has a way smaller down-time.

''You'd know that if you played against barriers''

[ruby oasis]

Barrier's downtime is around 8 seconds

Meanwhile mech's is less than that

Plus it can block 3 times

Meanwhile barrier blocks once

Also, the 360 degree protection doesn't matter when all it takes is looking towards the enemy's general direction

[novel inlet]

it does matter, has its way easyer to gank a mech because of how his hitbox is compared to a barrier.

[ruby oasis]

(And man do I doubt that harmonics gen doesn't have 360 degree protection)

[novel inlet]

its a weird hitbox for sure, but if u get hi right in the back, u get damaged most of the time.

[ruby oasis]

Except you won't if you just

Look at the enemy

With shiftlock on

Which you have almost no reason no to

[novel inlet]

it simply frames fro projectiles for like 1 sec 3 times, barrier instead has a block per projectile.

[novel inlet]

''in gank situations'' i can asure you u won't be able to face two people att the same time with shift lock, unless u start spinning.

[ruby oasis]

what do you mean by "has a block per projectile" isn't it literally the same thing

[ruby oasis]

Rarely will there be a case where the 2 people in question eill be in complete opposite sides AND use an ability that is affected by harmonics generator

[novel inlet]

No, mech register a period of invulnerability where all projectiles during that period are negated.

[ruby oasis]

Brb gotta gamble

[novel inlet]

happens very frequently.

[novel inlet]

while barrier register the single projectile before going on cool-down.

in short, if i send 3 projectiles on a barrier and a mech.

the mech will block all 3 projectiles only counting 1 stack of the 4

while barrier will use 1 stack per projectile.

[ruby oasis]

Barrier just block projectiles what are you talking about

It doesn't have stacks

It just does it's thing then immediately goes on cooldown

[novel inlet]

u missed the point

go back to gambling

[ruby oasis]

Alr done gambling

[earnest jacinth]

army mas prob bottom 3 mas now cuz yu not doin nun past stage 4 wit the 4 minions nd now since th e home point despawns u cant camp nor can you respawn ur minions now

why does my fav ability concept keep getting butchered gang 😭
also if u not a mech or a heavily mobilitilized (if thats even a fucking word) ability den ur js not having fun at all

W upd of course!!!

[ruby oasis]

Amazing.

[knotty cloud]

if they are adding one piece per update that would be cool too