#Power or Complexity

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native lily
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As the cost of abilities increase, both their power (general strength/effectiveness in fights overall) and complexity (how detailed/complex the mechanics are) scale. One of these stats may outshine the other in some abilities, but both scale.

In the future, would you like to see power or complexity scale as the Punches increase?

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i like to make posts that include votes on the main topic and then one for "what do you want to see in the future relating to this topic"

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Power or Complexity

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for simplification

strong slate
strong slate
half grail
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first

native lily
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no

coarse ginkgo
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me

tender bone
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Idk

half grail
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first

native lily
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why are oyu guys so impartial

coarse ginkgo
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actually it was xc who was first

native lily
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"i am switzerland" ass community

tender bone
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I haven't even checked the new update

coarse ginkgo
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because i dont even feel like being awake rn

tender sage
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first btw

native lily
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just gloss over the changelogs

tender bone
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School actually does make me tired a lot

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But alr

coarse ginkgo
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can i post 1 question of my math homework?

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because

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i cant function

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ykw im using ai to help me

uneven walrus
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people just spam punches or the same ranged projectile continuously anyway

shrewd olive
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I like complexity

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Allows for more creativity in fights to be used

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Like using an ability in a way more effective than intended

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(Soap)

jade garnet
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Can someone give some examples of power and complexity

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Don't get what it means

iron trench
uneven walrus
jade garnet
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That helps

tawdry plinth
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I have a complex suggestion

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For a new ability

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Can I send it?

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And also

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As much as simpler abilities keep ccu for younger players, us veterans and older players exist and aren't fond of overly simple, braindead abilities every update.

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We need some genuine variety and unique content

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And also Long term replayability

uneven walrus
# iron trench brickbattler

i must be a complex ability pro. Winning almost every single doomspire brickbattle and pilfering pirates i play

iron trench
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when they add woman game will have 6 billion ppl playing per day

uneven walrus
iron trench
uneven walrus
iron trench
uneven walrus
iron trench
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they should make waifu wars on april 1st

iron trench
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change it to a random anime girl

patent gate
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the one ability lacking in complexity and VERY much has power is

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you guessed i

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it

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alchemist

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the mastery to be exact

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like theres a whole system for ingredients and stuff

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etc etc

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but like

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90% of people will look at that and go

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"4 cake and milk"

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or

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"4 sugar and milk"

desert orchid
# patent gate alchemist

even unmastered has the problem
when was the last time you saw anything other than speed, power or regen being used?

tawdry plinth
# patent gate "4 sugar and milk"

i think the problem here is that mixing ingredient types makes the indivudual effects SO WEAK, so most people just stick to 1 potion to use all the time, and when combining effects, just have multiple full strength potions of different types.

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the game LITERALLY WANTS YOU TO NOT MIX INGREDIENTS

patent gate
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fr

crimson igloo
# jade garnet Can someone give some examples of power and complexity

Oh basically he's not talking about specific abilities. He's talking about the design philosophies when it comes to designing high punch abilities.

Should we have either, them being powerful the more punches go up, or should they be more unique and creative, the higher the punch cost is.

jade garnet
crimson igloo
jade garnet
crimson igloo
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Yeah

tawdry plinth
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It is indeed. People love stuff like puppet, UFO mastery, defender mastery, and engineer in terms of design (not balancing), and those are decently complex

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I haven't seen anything like engineer in another fighting game

crimson igloo
uneven walrus
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puppet is only for edge farmer and kill stealer

near dagger
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complex abilties when

arctic grail
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Coolness factor

crimson igloo
devout turret
patent gate
# near dagger complex abilties when

you mean engineer type or actual complex abilities that need you to know quantum physics but can beat up pretty much everything in the game if used correctly

native lily
# native lily
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What do you prefer?

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victor_answer_text

Prefer complexity

native lily
# native lily
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How do you feel about the power vs complexity ability mix currently?

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Too many power focused abilities - rework some