UFO Mastery Rework poll

[upper echo]

hi everyone! recently, UFO mastery was reworked to be more fun to use. this was sort-of one of the main focuses of this update.

not only were more buttons added to experiment with, but UFO also has exterior tech that allows it to TRULY be a threat to the environment!

with that being said, what's your take on these changes?
most notably:

• do you think UFO mastery is strong?
• do you think UFO Mastery is fun to attack? (invading a UFO mothership to kill it's owner)
• do you think UFO Mastery is fun to use?

if there's anything else you'd like to add, don't forget to leave your ideas/comments below !!

[crisp bobcat]

i mean the ufo user has some advantages

like lockdown

making all the npcs attack

and not letting them escape

it being difficult to get up to it

and they dont have abilities

[long comet]

• Ufo mastery is in the top 5
• Ufo is NOT fun to invade (lockdown turns it into a bootleg blood god with npc support)
• Ufo mas can be quite fun, but is it unfun to fight against when most abilities can't reach it (and barely any stand a chance)

Also, note that if you abduct a person, fly directly above the void (the further from the map the better) and activate self destruct it's GUARANTEED DEATH

Cloak is mid

You have 2 tractor beams, a gravity bomb as well as minion spawning to make the entire server's experience miserable

Take a look at this list (made by array)

There are over 90 abilities in the game

And over 60% of them cannot reach the ufo

So they just get relentlessly harassed by the tractor beams and gravity bombs

TLDR: way too obnoxious considering most abilities cannot even fight back, abduction +self destruct while over the void is guaranteed death, inability to use abilities + the enemy having NPC support + the arena being super cramped makes it unfun to invade

[crisp bobcat]

why over the void?

cuz they made it so that if they escape they get flung to the map

or does that not apply if they exit via you dying

[upper echo]

yeah we're patching that dont worry

[ebon wyvern]

jester can reach the ufo btw

[low niche]

I think pirate and jello can too

its just difficult

[ruby hazel]

what i personally think should be done to mastered UFO:

• change the cloak (complete invisibility, but cannot activate buttons or tractor beams while cloaked; fully decloaking takes 3 seconds and makes a reasonably loud sound)

• increase UFO interior

• make the UFO user stronger against players in the cage (reasonably hard to abduct someone who knows what they're doing, maybe decrease power drain or buff the offensive buttons)

• in exchange, make UFO users significantly weaker against players outside the cage (like MMM said its a bootleg BG with 3 npcs on your side. decrease UFO user's max hp, make aliens unable to ragdoll with punches when lockdown is active)

• add a secondary method to invade the UFO other than vents (i honest to god don't know what to suggest for this one my condolences)

current strat to kill captured players is just to immediately activate lockdown, shock them once, remove the cage, and start beating the shit out of them

this should NOT be the case because why else would any of the other offensive buttons be there

[low niche]

make grapple Q pull ufo to the ground cos that would be funny

[long comet]

Self destruct

Mb

Misinput

[fluid gale]

it would probably be more fun to attack if the ship was bigger (aka raiding the ship and killing all the aliens inside, eventually killing its owner) also if the amount of aliens in the ship was increased, and they added more rooms to it, it would be nice

[fluid gale]

and like you said, make the ufo user is very well protected with a crew of aliens, lets say 9-10 aliens 3 of wich are big and cant ragdoll, but this protection is just because the ufo user himself is debuffed a lot like a lot

prob 100-70hp, and decreased dmg from punches

and lastly they should prob make a control room for it wich has a set amount of hp, everytime you hit its door it lowers its hp, eventually breaking the door and giving the intruder access to the control room, ofc it would be cool if they gave some protection to the inside of the control room, so thats all from me, and yes i yapped a lot ik

[long comet]

It's not fun because
Number 1: most abilities cannot even reach it to begin with
Number 2: going inside is a deathwish

[fluid gale]

just make aliens hella weak

fr

like strenght in numbers

[long comet]

I meant self destruct not lockdown mb

[fluid gale]

also, they could fix most abilities not reaching it by making another way of reaching it

[long comet]

Which is?

[fluid gale]

this is a lazy answer im gonna give to you but

they could make it so flying the ufo has like gas

you can only fly it a certain amount of time

then you have to land

and that makes you vulnerable to everything

but taking in count they alr reworked it reworking it again would be kind of unecessary

and that idea is so the whole server can end the ufo user´s existance fr (well if 3 or more people decide to raid it)

but yeah thats all

maybe they could rework gingerbread realm instead of re-reworking ufo, that one really needs a rework (the gingerbread men dont help you a lot, but tanks do)

and if they end up re-reworking it, maybe they could make it so the ufo can be affected by abilities and it has hp, and if it goes to 0 it crashes making you vulnerable (thats another way they could make it fair for other players or atleast fun to raid, and yes im done yapping also if anyone has any other ways ufo mastery could be more balanced while having more rooms and alien crew pls tell me, because taking in count the ideas i gave i can see many jumpings happening to ufo users and possibly ruining the ufo users experience, since yeah its hard to balance)

[tame talon]

Ngl make invaders be able to press self destruction button

(And ofc transformed people can’t press it)

[rose yacht]

Why does the tier list say gravity and grapple can't reach it

Any ability with good vertical mobility can get inside the UFO if played right

Including grapple, rabbit, and festive

[long comet]

I mean even if they get in

They just get atomized right after

[rose yacht]

True

Let us use moves in UFO fr

[long comet]

There are 3 categories

Number 1: can't reach

[rose yacht]

If we could use moves in UFO then we would be set

[long comet]

Number 2: can reach but dies

Number 3: alchemist

[long comet]

It's too cramped

And also

[rose yacht]

Make it bigger

Ez

[long comet]

Quantum

[rose yacht]

And idk how portal would work

You'd just fall into void and die when you enter portal

Since portal spawn in the portal realm is relative to your location

[fluid gale]

they could fix it being cramped by expanding it

[neon hinge]

Make the ufo slower

[long comet]

We want ufo balanced, not killed off

[neon hinge]

It’s faster than normal walkspeed while using its beams tho

You can’t escape at all

[long comet]

You mean during the beams?

Slower during the beams?

[neon hinge]

Yea

[long comet]

Hmmmmm maybe

[neon hinge]

I just don’t like how I basically have to accept my fate if I get jumpscared by a ufo

[long comet]

But the main offenders are it's kit (2 different tractor beams, gravity bomb and minion summon are annoying), lockdown (they really made a bootleg blood god with npc support THE EXACT DAY blood god's dimebsion got changed) and self destruct (permanently losing yur ufo is too harsh, also you can do it while flying above the void for guaranteed death)

Also the fact that most abilities cannot reach it

Let alone fight it (refer to the lockdown point)

[neon hinge]

Something I would like with to play with the energy preservation is that your UFO has to land somewhere if you reach 0

making it very punishing if you use it all up

[long comet]

I mean what if your energy couldn't regenerate unless you landed

That could let other abilities, you know, actually invade you

(Step 2 is nerfing lockdown)

[neon hinge]

Yea that would be good

[long comet]

What do you think about spawning with 0 energy

So you actually have consequences for dying

[neon hinge]

Idk

Thing is how do you Regen it

[long comet]

Landing

[neon hinge]

So you spawn in your ufo and instantly land?

[long comet]

Yes

[neon hinge]

Yea sure

[long comet]

Which also doubles as a way for people to invade your ufo

[neon hinge]

Basically a spawn cooldown then

The way I deal with ufos rn is bomb jump onto the ufo with brickbattler

-# this also shows that needing to swap to something else to deal with ppl using an ability is a sign that it’s unbalanced

[long comet]

That's like one of the only things that don't get evaporated as soon as they enter

[neon hinge]

Festive can also cook with tje correct prep

Other than that you either can’t reach or it sucks

[long comet]

Would you really want all that prep time for an ability that doesn't suffer consequenses for dying

[neon hinge]

I mean atleast you can now abuse your festive power on the rest of the server I guess

Still no

[plain marsh]

it would be kinda cool if the ufo itself had hp

if you shot at it enough it would go on the ground for some time and allow people to invade

(it would also be cool to see someone shooting a ufo with hollow purple and it actually doing something to the ufo)

[fluid gale]

yeah thats what i was saying, if your ufo or you gets hit by anything it will take dmg, and when it reaches to 0 it crashes on the ground,

and as we were saying they could make its interior bigger to make infinite combos by the owner of ufo and aliens avoidable (and it also makes possible to run from the ufo user fr)

would be cool

[fluid gale]

also gravity bomb needs to be changed, i feel like its a very useless ability, i mean its a plus after all but its just really useless, can be fun too, but most of the time you will be making people levitate and land on top of your ufo, making you get attacked, it only got some rare uses and its pretty luck dependant on where it throws the players and how strong it throws them

and when i play with a different ability other than ufo i never die to the bombs, so its more of a very little annoyance (unless you get thrown to the void by it lol)

[long comet]

It forces people away from trees

[fluid gale]

i mean yeah but trees arent even that effective

they could go inside the cave or the cabin

i mean all the time i used ufo i almost never saw someone do that (unless they know my ability is on cooldown)

[fluid gale]

also they should add cooldown to equipping ufo after death, lets say like 10 minutes (it sounds stupid but it would be a way to let the server get a momentary win)

just so the people in the server know its worth killing its user

[long comet]

It's stupid

You could just apply my proposed changes and make ufo start with like 10% energy

(Energy doesn't passively drain btw, only by using buttons or abilities)

I could makean entire suggestion for ufo changes but I am busy with that one defender mas suggestion

[fluid gale]

Do it, along with those changes they need to fix some stuff like aliens and the owner of the ufo being able to combo you infinitely, thats why some people want more interior space for it

they also want it because it would be really easy to run from the user and survive longer too

it makes it so people stand an actual change at not getting absolutely annihilated by the aliens and the user

because i can tell you the amount of times i have killed people by getting them in an infinite combo by me and the aliens

is insane

[long comet]

Ight

[rose yacht]

This isn't a suggestion, it's a feedback channel 😭

[fluid gale]

i just realized

i fr couldnt find the one i was wanting to pin him in

[pallid sigil]

delete ufo from the game

[left wasp]

only keep
The mastery version and make a second mastery thats a dreadnought ufo

[pallid sigil]

delete

[quartz pewter]

It's definitely confusing

[stoic relic]

Not really takes like 2 minutes to learn

[left wasp]

What’s confusing

The buttons have pictures to show u what they do

[fluid gale]

they should do smth like that, and make its interior bigger on the go

also its not confusing, youll be confused for the first 20 mins but after that you´ll know exactly what the buttons do

[barren sand]

make it so u can do lockdown with a button like n or whater u want to do because whos really gonna take time to press a screen and also half the buttons do nothing like theres 2 that make you into an alien 1 that squishes you and does nothing and one that turns you big for 10 seccond you should make them all cobimbine to give them a buff and dos kills are hard to get

[left wasp]

yesss and my fingers cant always press lockdown immediately

Cause u have to avoid the self destruct button which is being placed way too close to lock down

[stoic relic]

Could be an charging up r ability?
Forgot if it already has one

[left wasp]

It doesn’t have an R ability now

Could be some map wide laser spin

[stoic relic]

Or summon a whole army of ufos

[left wasp]

Like a bunch of them just dashes behind you from hyperspace ?

[stoic relic]

It was kinda of a typo. I meant to type aliens

But I can see that happening. They could each lock on to a player and try to use a red beam on them that does 25% health if they don't dodge all of it (all mini ufos btw)

[left wasp]

Isnt that the Q move already

Spawn 3 aliens to the map per use , and ur ufo keep spawning aliens

[stoic relic]

True but it would summon more I guess? Like 10

[stoic relic]

I would rather this be ultimate now that I think of it

[left wasp]

Maybe when using R , it changes the type of alien your ufo spawns into a type that sits in a mini ufo drone ?

They will use ranged laser instead of normal punch

[stoic relic]

That's sounds cool