Hivemind Infection Meter

[deft jewel]

Hivemind's passive has been changed.
Now, to keep your power up, you need to keep an infection meter full. You fill it by dealing damage, and it drains over time.
We're pretty happy with this change, but we'd like to see how you feel about it, considering Hivemind is a pretty popular ability.

Try it out before you vote!

[stark grotto]

seems goated but i didnt rlly test out hivemind (also phighting skateboard mentioned!?)

[worn spruce]

It is kind of balanced, but its kind of hard to keep up in the early stages

[placid hemlock]

bump

[proper swan]

what changes would it need?!

its super fun

[dusky pond]

honestly new thing ruins hivemind ability

[normal thunder]

EXACTLY

CHANGE IT BACK

PLS

[foggy stone]

how?

[dusky pond]

its not really hivemind anymore. its just so damn basic now

[foggy stone]

its the exact same thing

u just need to keep punching

[dusky pond]

nvm, i should just stop. I have to always tell myself that higher ranks are always right

[proper swan]

ew

[foggy stone]

??

[proper swan]

no it doesnt

this actually makes the ability fun and unique

if it gets changed back ill literally appear in the walls of checken

[young dune]

I've tried it and I see it as a buff and nerf, I understand the changes to this, it's to balance it out and I think they succeeded it.

but it may require much more skills then it was needed to master the HM again. and this is coming from someone who's favorite ability being Hivemind

[foggy stone]

That was the point

We made it more difficult cuz it was very easy for a hivemind user to just hide up somewhere

[flint leaf]

very unbalanced, it needs to be slower paced, reduce the amount of % gained when punching while also reducing the % you lose every second

[proper swan]

good.

[flint leaf]

i also think the stats should come back, the damage and jump power being gone kinda sucks

[plucky tulip]

Personally, I think for each phase you unlock--you gain a "drain lock." This drain lock prevents you from going down from your current phase, but it also can send you back to the weakest point of this phase.

Explanation: If you gain three full bars, your meter will now only drain back down to three until you progress.

Getting to five infections does the same, including seven infections, and so on. Getting to five will prevent you from going down further from five, and getting seven will prevent you from getting down further from seven.

Personally, I think this is the best way to save Hivemind, because losing everything for not constantly fighting seems kinda dumb.

[fast oyster]

i like the idea, especially when it keeps afk people weak when they get lazy, but whats with the picture of skateboard from phighting?

[deft jewel]

Skamteboard

[willow kiln]

This is actually supa fun js like Def mas

But you have to constantly rise the bar

Infact it also prevents people resetting

W update

[proper swan]

That destroys the point of the rework :/

[frozen sage]

Not really cos it's only on some phases

Doesn't even start till the third one apparently

[random garden]

What I’d do I think is:
increase the amount of punches for each gauge BUT

Make it so you can’t go under a level

[flint leaf]

agree! just make the first stage one kill

[plucky tulip]

Well, if you really want to stretch things out, make it so the drain lock just only drains you down to when you get your first ability. That way, players who work for their first ability get to keep it. For an advantage.

[plucky tulip]

Can't a DoS user just go into a portal realm and go afk? Boom, not only are they lazy, but they keep their power for later.

[fast oyster]

thats a diff issue

it has nothing to do with hive

[plucky tulip]

Im comparing it to Hivemind

Its kind of flawed that a Hivemind would have to work for it if they wanted to get lazy, but a DoS can just do the same and NOT receive a punishment

Kinda like double standards

[fast oyster]

it also could be bc of the 300 quest

so people have a better chance of getting there in a public server

[plucky tulip]

but hivemind ALSO has its own quest

five infections in one life

not only that, but for the badge to even get hivemind

[fast oyster]

its not as hard as the 300 souls quest

[plucky tulip]

you need to have five total minions

its on the same level as robot, aka red

so i'd say its still PRETTY hard

[fast oyster]

just get a few friends and thats it

[plucky tulip]

agh that fairs

[fast oyster]

besides, someone random will eventually say "if you cant beat em, join em" after destroying them

with hive

[random garden]

Actually I’m curious

Do hivemind minions contribute too?

If not they should

[plucky tulip]

They dont

[random garden]

Wow ok

[plucky tulip]

Hivemind minions first used to be able to infect

[random garden]

They really should then

[plucky tulip]

then that got removed

[random garden]

That seems like the perfect incorporation

Don’t let em straight up infect but

Make their punches power up the hivemind

[fast oyster]

sounds fair to me

if not infect, make at least charge the meter

[cyan crow]

Did they change the infect 5 people quest?

[stark sage]

it makes hivemind more aggression based its not ruining a thing

[thick sedge]

Ok the only thing I hate is that the bar drains during map voting

[random garden]

I think the bars probably drain a little too fast

Like I said I think

Once you hit a new level

It can’t go under

However, the punch requirement for each gets buffed

[rustic gorge]

Too op for 4k punch ability so no

[normal thunder]

Every ability is op unless you suck at the game

[somber elbow]

The meter isnt bad but I would say decrease the speed that the meter goes down. Id say 1 blood per second is a good amount

and make it so after getting a certain amount of kills you can hold more blood

[rustic gorge]

True

[normal thunder]

Or make it so it locks after you get enough blood and the blood meter increases after every infect

[random garden]

Trust me

Experimenting with it

The meter can be

Very hardly abused

So uh

Basically make meter go down slower

But make the damage for the meter higher

Bonus points if minions can contribute to it aswell

[umbral dust]

after playing with it its chill but if a server is kinda small u just get punished for it

like ill be chasing people and theyll either just run away or die

and then all my prog is lost and im back to square 1

[fast oyster]

server hopping exists

[gusty falcon]

Yes, you’re right, but regardless people can run away from you or just stay in the lobby and suddenly, boom, back to square one

[umbral dust]

Yeah but why should anyone have to change servers to use an ability

That’s kinda weird

[fast oyster]

i do that every day when i feel like it

[gusty falcon]

Yeah, YOU do it, what if others prefer to stay in the server they’re already in?

[stark sage]

dev pls give robux me new

[proper swan]

honestly i really really enjoy how fast it drains, its such a fun challenge and feels crazy to use

[somber elbow]

I hate the new rage bar they gutted another ability and made it so any newborn can just run from you and all your blood depletes like sure I like a challenge but I would've prefered something that doesn't punish you for something others can mess up

[somber elbow]

As a somewhat hivemind main, personally, the biggest insult was saying you were "happy with this change"

[somber elbow]

yeah but you guys made it easy for most of the server to run or hide so they could drain hivemind

[proper swan]

Ok bro I sure as hell asked for your garbage opinion

[proper swan]

Also btw you have speed increases

[somber elbow]

thats tough little buddy

[proper swan]

:(

[amber junco]

using an ability shouldnt be a challenge

hivemind was the chill version of dos

because the whole server didnt target you after getting some flame particles

but now its just

go go

punch

punch

punch

die

[proper swan]

fym

[proper swan]

thats why it was bad

[proper swan]

everyone targetted you. you just couldnt die.

[amber junco]

what the hell is the point of an ability

if you gotta ultra sweat yourself

for it to be usable

[proper swan]

thats just not correct

abilities can be strong with skill

and be intended for that playstyle

[amber junco]

we already have dos

we dont need dos number 2

[proper swan]

this is much LESS like DOS now

and also its better for the game if it isnt batshit easy to dominate servers

[amber junco]

its gameplay is MUCH like dos now

[proper swan]

not even close

[thick sedge]

Point out the simularities

[proper swan]

it was like DOS before the rework

[amber junco]

1- its much more aggressive or well FORCED to be aggressive

[proper swan]

nope

DOS isnt agressive after 15

[thick sedge]

Is dos on a timer?

[amber junco]

no but

both are aggressive

well early on that is

[thick sedge]

So if 2 abilities have an agressive playstyle they are the same

[amber junco]

no but both are dependent on kills

[thick sedge]

Is that correct?

[proper swan]

not anymore

[amber junco]

sorta

[proper swan]

HM isnt dependent on kills anymore

[amber junco]

well hivemind still needs to kill for proper phases

punching isnt gonna get you much unless theres 5 people chasing you at once

and thats early on

and also hivemind is still just a worse dos now

only real difference is people that used to not have a skill level of playing dos now cant really play hivemind either because of how similar the gameplay is now

and keeping the meter is a pretty big struggle if you dont hit everyone you see

which at that point is a 1 way ticket to get god punched

[somber elbow]

also the new hivemind meter pretty much makes it so everyone wants to get revenge on you know

but like

imagine a hivemind mastery

[amber junco]

ive been praying for a hivemind mastery ever since ive seen the ability

[frozen sage]

Hiveminds one of the abilities never getting a mastery if you didn't know

Reworks are closest we getting I guess

[merry furnace]

You cannot get past hivemind phase 4, the bar drains in less than 20 seconds, borderline unusable if you want to "rebirth", but I like the idea if later phases had slightly slower drain

[plucky tulip]

actually rebirthing is easy

mushroom spawn tactic + fast resetting = quick rebirth

[merry furnace]

what

[amber junco]

actually since theres actually checkpoints

its pretty possible

only problem

rebirthing literally makes you defensless

[merry furnace]

The only checkpoint is the music area. After that, if you level up at least once, the bar has SO MUCH DRAIN that hivemind NEEDS TO DEPEND on servers being full and incompetent players

if the ability's usage literally depends on the server and the players, and not be able to be used anywhere, then I don't consider it good

[somber elbow]

using hivemind has become a different level of hell

you have to rely on low skill players because if you go after higher skilled players they'll waste your time and drain your blood

and even then retreating to regen health doesn't exist anymore it makes you reliant on the regen orb if you actually wanna keep your health up

[last notch]

needs some kind of counter against godpunch users

DOS users have high walkspeed and the dodge move as well as all the stones at 300+

also drains way too quickly

and it also shouldnt drain in the middle of map voting intermission

[pastel silo]

So now that there is a rebirth, there should be multiple, kinda like higher status phases. Like each rebirth adds more pinchers to your back? Also I would like to see on a third phase, a third 5th pincher on the back that hangs over the head like a scorpion.

[last notch]

also https://discord.com/channels/922921165373202463/1416792395046977646

A "Suggestion" technically but I think its another Issue too

[somber elbow]

they have fixed this ability it is useable now

[proper swan]

nah its probably broken af again for the newbies

[somber elbow]

Broken but atleast I don’t lose half my blood in like 10 seconds

[amber junco]

we pray to the ability wars gods for this buff that is the drain speed being halved🙏

[wintry raptor]

revert this please

[amber junco]

revert what

[next yoke]

it kinda sucks, not as bad as the mystic nerf though.

[whole sonnet]

Mystic is ass now

They needa change it back to the old version

[next yoke]

real, mystic was never op

[whole sonnet]

It was decent for punch grinding

Add me my user is keiseking10

[next yoke]

keyword: decent

sent

wanna help me get ufo mastery

[whole sonnet]

Sure man

[next yoke]

join me

[amber junco]

even if army was and still is better

and mastered army is even better

[whole sonnet]

It's useless and doesn't work

They needa fix it

[amber junco]

mastered army is good but

yea the bug that breaks the minions

is really bad

im still wondering what even caused it

because it was good before

[whole sonnet]

i miss when it used to work 😭

[amber junco]

same😔

[whole sonnet]

Wanna add me

keiseking10

[amber junco]

uh

sure

i sent request

from what ive seen

you play find the markers a lot?

and find the cans

[gusty falcon]

10.5k hours on roblox right there💔

[gusty falcon]

You’re the kind of player that will probably be on one of those “THE GREATEST ____ ROBLOX PLAYER” or smth like that

(All satire)

[whole sonnet]

?

[whole sonnet]

YEAH

[whole sonnet]

YEAH

[gusty falcon]

Have you not seen any of those videos?

[whole sonnet]

Nvm I remember

Uh

[gusty falcon]

“This roblox dev created a jump that would take forever to perfect”

[gusty falcon]

[whole sonnet]

Can u rate this rq

[gusty falcon]

Sounds like it would be on a glitch per difficulty chart obby

(That means it sounds pretty laid back and good for relaxing or maybe grinding for smth)

[whole sonnet]

yeah I made the audio

I'ma trying to make songs for the game checken and ducky is working on

[gusty falcon]

Wait aw?

Where is that going to fit in😭

[whole sonnet]

I said skyrift

😭

the game they working on

@analog olive

[gusty falcon]

Ohhh

[gusty falcon]

YESS TRUST

[whole sonnet]

Yeahh

[analog olive]

hey

[whole sonnet]

It is?

[whole sonnet]

Why is ur name that 😭

[analog olive]

why not

[whole sonnet]

Imagine it does come tomorrow

[gusty falcon]

Well since it sounds like it would be in one of those roblox games, is it one of those kind of game?

[analog olive]

predict (i had it from october 8)

[gusty falcon]

Lol

[analog olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388833443311259779/1388833443508387961/togif-1.gif

[gusty falcon]

It sounds like it might be an rpg or rouge like?

[analog olive]

aw

[gusty falcon]

I love when they forget to remove image perms in their own threads

Well for those that don’t have image perms

[whole sonnet]

@idle oak @stiff vector @late rivet @lone olive @proper remnant @pale venture @split finch is this aura

[whole sonnet]

@spark atlas ^

[spark atlas]

yeah bro it’s fire bro

next 2hollis

one more timeeee 😩😩

[whole sonnet]

LMAO

[whole sonnet]

I made ts in 10 mins

[whole sonnet]

@warped fable @stuck solstice ^

[stuck solstice]

Why was I pinged.

[warped fable]

What

[stuck solstice]

this is the worst thing ever

[whole sonnet]

Are u dumb

look at the damn song

[stuck solstice]

ew

it sounds awful

[proper remnant]

what the FUCK is this

@fervent prairie

@quaint oak

u gotta hear this

[quaint oak]

bro what 😭

i mean it sounds pretty cool in the middle

But is this an AI voice ?

[proper remnant]

its him theodore

this song is about shirou day

[quaint oak]

how?

[proper remnant]

because he says it in the first 5 seconds

its buns...

[quaint oak]

oh i genuinely couldn't understand it

[whole sonnet]

na it's my voice

[whole sonnet]

can u understand this bro 😭 @quaint oak

[gusty falcon]

Yeah I can’t understand anything

[gusty falcon]

Same😭

[whole sonnet]

😭

[gusty falcon]

I know for a fact there was a voice

Let me listen again

Yeah no nvm i get that it was made in like 10 min but it’s buns💔💔💔

[gusty falcon]

I see now what you mean after actually listening😭

[whole sonnet]

@gusty falcon WB this

[gusty falcon]

I mean you sound like you got good vocals but like

This song is only ever going to be used in those glitch per difficult obbies or just like a difficulty chart obby

[whole sonnet]

?

[gusty falcon]

And the ones that have tons of gamepasses

[whole sonnet]

are u on something

This isn't ncs

[gusty falcon]

No idea what’s being said

All i can imagine it’s saying

[whole sonnet]

U didn't even listen to ts

😭

[gusty falcon]

Is light and squagle considering that’s the title

[whole sonnet]

ur trying to fit in w checken

[gusty falcon]

Gng im literally listening it?

Yeah uhhh, what does squagle light even mean

[whole sonnet]

Two people on discord u dummy

[gusty falcon]

And im supposed to know this already

[gusty falcon]

also

isn't it literally a rule to NOT ping a mod for anything AT ALL unless there's like someone in chat doing smth worthy of having a mod called on them like somehow being able to send a gore video or slaying slurs n all that?

sorry if im wrong but I genuinely remember that being a rule

[stiff vector]

guys its okay its just a song

[gusty falcon]

oh no I get that but like

I genuinely remember there being a rule for pinging mods without a good reason

[stiff vector]

gotta admit without the ai voice this would be a bop

[gusty falcon]

snad said that it was supposedly their voice

I agree to differ tho, it does sound like an ai but then again it could just be their voice and it is just smth they made in like 10 min

[stiff vector]

he’s sent me some songs and the voices all sound different, this one was a girl the one he sent me sounded male

idk but I don’t wanna assume stuff

[gusty falcon]

not the lies

[gusty falcon]

.

[stiff vector]

he made me my outro song with no voice which is fire

[gusty falcon]

(this the lie right here)

[gusty falcon]

ooohhh alright

[whole sonnet]

Right

[whole sonnet]

@stiff vector @gusty falcon

[stiff vector]

is that also ur voice

[whole sonnet]

Yeah without the auto tune

Or voice changers

[gusty falcon]

I mean it’s pretty upbeat and happy sooo

It does kind of sound like there’s a LITTLE bit auto tune but that’s probably just me

[graceful ice]

https://tenor.com/view/phighting-roblox-skateboard-phighting-coil-phighting-roblox-phighting-gif-2975358179146455777

[graceful ice]

https://tenor.com/view/zzz-zenless-zone-zero-belle-image-perms-gif-16211658476521656189

[stray grove]

i might be a bit late but i think your meter should stay put when you reach your peak form
it drains so fast i can't even stop and chat with people or i'll lose 2 bars

[vestal spear]

i think thats just part of using hivemind ngl

you have to be BLOODTHIRSTY

if you want to keep your strength, you must sustain it

[hardy mauve]

i love the infection meter

recently ive seen people... ACTUALLY STAY AS MINIONS?? except for the grapple sweats

it's so nice to have an actual army with me

[vestal spear]

hivemind is such a good and fun ability if people actually stayed as the minions

[gusty falcon]

wait really???

why?

[hardy mauve]

idk, think it's mainly the new players between 1-20k tho

[gusty falcon]

oh 😭

[wintry raptor]

make it stop regressing after u max it out

[pulsar ingot]

nah cus people would stay max with no effort

hivemind is meant to be an aggressive wall

not dos 2

perhaps grant x2 punches to minions so people have an incentive to stay infected

but your meter should also drain slower with the less non-infected people in the map
if half a server is infected, that's 1 out of 2 people you can't get further meter on (until they reset or die)

not to mention small servers

[thick sedge]

It kind of already is dos 2

Except slightly more fair

By like 22%

Maybe higher