╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[summer stream]

you can edit it using that

[south steeple]

like you'll line up your irons on a guy and your bullet will come out half a degree off target

[summer stream]

[south steeple]

nah wouldn't work

[summer stream]

i wonder why

[random fulcrum]

there's really no reason at all to enable 3d ballistics for ads like really why would you need the bullet to come out of the barrel and follow the barrel when aiming down sights

[south steeple]

because you'd have to choose between your guy holding the gun right and the bullets going where they're supposed to go

[random fulcrum]

if your sights are already aligned with where the crosshair should be

i get it for hip firing but for ads it makes zero sense

not only from a game design standpoint but also from a logistics standpoint

[summer stream]

mmm yse

relism

[random fulcrum]

imagine all the nano adjustments you'd need to do

[south steeple]

but like GAMMA has all these pretty animations where your irons sway and move as your character moves around, but the bullets don't

[random fulcrum]

to get barrels to properly align

and that's IF the barrel bone is properly placed and oriented on the model

[south steeple]

so you end up aiming where your irons point and half the time it's oops haha they're not perfect at the center of your screen yet, you miss :)

[random fulcrum]

realismo beats basic ass game design yet again

i love the gamma community

[summer stream]

i have no idea what do you want from stalker

it doesnt aim for realism like tarkov

[south steeple]

i wanna be able to peek outta cover with my irons on a guy's head and it actually hit him instead of missing

idk

[summer stream]

we dont have a thing where you can shoot like that

there is no macedonian shooting

[random fulcrum]

the what

[south steeple]

like this bothers me so much lol

any time you strafe or crouch or whatever it desyncs and i mald about it

g_aimpos technically fixes it but it just ain't game-ready

[summer stream]

basically when you raise ur gun above ur head

macedonian

[random fulcrum]

this shit is just a byproduct of realismo

guns just shouldn't sway off the center of the screen that much unless you're pretentious about realismo

yes there should be an indication of movement and weight

but not move the entire weapon off center by that much

it looks bad

[south steeple]

yeah exactly, it's fancy animation eye candy that kinda eats into gameplay a little

it's 'fine', but like it could be better you know

[random fulcrum]

yeah the inertia could be toned down by like 90%

and skip having to nano adjust all weapons so that the front post is pixel perfect aligned with the barrel

[south steeple]

or we could get g_aimpos working properly and get the best of both worlds :))))) eye candy and accurate sights

[random fulcrum]

and etc

g aimpos works as it should

[south steeple]

right but the weapon models weren't built out with it in mind so a lot of the time they don't work as intended

different ways of saying the same thing

[summer stream]

use scripts for that

[random fulcrum]

funnily enough all of vanilla anomaly's weapons with vanilla positioning work perfectly with 3d ballistics

yet again a gamma problem

[south steeple]

yup

fun fun

[random fulcrum]

reset the clock

[south steeple]

thanks gunslingerr

[random fulcrum]

idk dawg it's a manufactured problem and quite the beast to hyperfixate on

nobody wants to fix this

[south steeple]

like to fix it, the 'jank' solution would be to go into each weapon OGF, add a new bone called "firebone" or whatever, adjust the fire_bone param in the weapon's LTX to it, and then you can manually adjust the angle of the new bone until it properly lines up

[random fulcrum]

be the change you want

[south steeple]

but that is so. much. work.

but at least adding a new bone means you don't have to re-do every animation

[summer stream]

are you sure

[south steeple]

idk

[random fulcrum]

are you sure

do your homework then

[summer stream]

are you absolutely sure

since i did that myself

result?
crashes

[south steeple]

fuck

great

[summer stream]

you NEED to add it to animation

[south steeple]

you can't just like

[summer stream]

it's just adding from start to end so

[south steeple]

parent it to wpn_body or whatever

[summer stream]

it's not that bad

no.

NO.

[south steeple]

that's dumb

[summer stream]

YOU CAN'T.

[south steeple]

gamedev is stupid

[summer stream]

for stalker yes

[random fulcrum]

what game allows that

[summer stream]

try tarkov

the fuck ass unity

[south steeple]

then the dream's DEAD

[random fulcrum]

bro sounds motivated enough to do stuff but doesn't want to do it

just nano adjust on the hud editor

and nano adjust the barrel bone in blender

there's a shit ton of snipers that are comically offset

basically all of them

are extremely offset

[south steeple]

ima fuck around with it a little bit and see for myself

i don't want the dream to die

[fair canopy]

This has been fixed in gamma

[south steeple]

how so

[fair canopy]

I fixed it.

Every gamma gun works with g_aimpos

As long as you have the latest 3dssg

[random fulcrum]

that's mad funny

[fair canopy]

I did it for myself honestly

If I ever play gamma again

[random fulcrum]

that's kinda based

[random fulcrum]

that's unbased

[south steeple]

i guess the latest 3DSSG is only on moddb? the 3DSSG thread in this server points to a github that hasn't been updated since last year

thank, this is probably why i did not know this was already addressed

oh boy oh boy i am so excited to test and see for myself

[fair canopy]

So much so that g_aimpos will be default in as of gamma 095

[south steeple]

literally perfect, exactly what i was hoping to hear

finally gamma gunplay can enter the modern age

glad i didn't have to do it myself lol

if you don't mind me asking, how did you end up actually fixing it? did you just go through and manually fix models and animations for everything

[fair canopy]

Pretty much. Adding muzzle bones. Fixing alignment. Messing with armature orientation

Some other stuff

[south steeple]

cool so same road i was gonna go down, thanks for stepping in and saving me a couple weeks of work

[fair canopy]

Try 5 months. Unless you're hyper autistic I guess

[tame steppe]

if I ever make a weapon mod, is there any way I can make sure that it will be compatible with 3d ballistics?

[south steeple]

Weapon mods created using best-practice modeling techniques - i.e. proper barrel and sight alignment, zeroing to infinity, and ensuring HUD reposition values are mathematically accurate to model properties

[nova sundial]

I don't understand much about this, but I can write in the comments to explain what needs to be changed. I'm just a regular player and don't understand much about modding.

[crude vapor]

Hi all,

I've edited my skill levels for gamma but when I load into game it doesnt load them properly, it resets them completely, anyone got any ideas?

Ive Converted Scoc to Lua, modded the lua, deleted the scoc, nothing.

[undone lily]

The 100m distance limit to traders is probably fine.

Maybe 150m

[undone lily]

Ever tried to aim with irons and strafe IRL ?

[south steeple]

my bullets still come out of the barrel straight when i do :p

whether my barrel is actually pointing at the target is another question lol

i am an absolute shit shot so most assuredly not

[summer girder]

Yeah, there may not be a crosshair on-screen, but all the bullets go to the crosshair on your HUD

[undone lily]

With the 3D ballistics that’s the case

[south steeple]

yes this has been resolved already if you scroll down the rest of the convo, thanks to @fair canopy

[undone lily]

👍

[fair canopy]

I should make a tutorial but you want to make sure your wpn_body bone is properly aligned with y axis and the rest are parallel along z axis. Your muzzle bone should be aligned with your sights. If the model is well made the sights align with the barrel in most cases. Then in game you want to setup the hud to display the aimpos reticle and the camera reticle. If you align the aimpos reticle with the center of the screen then your gun will work with or without aimpos on

You don't have to use muzzle bone BTW. You can use any bone as set in the ltx. But making a muzzle bone and setting it in front of the barrel also makes it so that you don't have to mess with the muzzle flash settings

You can just as easily use wpn_body as your shoot point and then adjust the shoot position

[plucky pond]

What grass mod looks most similar to stalker 2s grass?

[tame steppe]

alright, thanks so much for the detailed answer I appreciate you taking the time for this

[fringe prawn]

how easy/hard would it be to mix different gloves from different arm packs? for example, use gloves from certain thap arms on gorka arms and replace the existing ones. would i need to edit the meshes and textures?

[low drift]

How do y’all usually source your models? Do you rip em from another game or just try and find the one you’re lookin for on Sketchfab or somethin?

[tame steppe]

yeah that’s basically it

at least that’s how I nab my models

[simple scaffold]

Ethical ppl find freely liceced modles, pay to licene modles, or make thier own. Plenty of ppl rip them from other games as well. i would sugest not doing that the veneer of legeitimacy since the updated stalker EULA that has seen Anomaly and gamma listed on GoG, is thin enough as it is.

[low drift]

Alright, thanks

[trail sundial]

I do some porting from mods for other games with the creators approval to redistribute.

[summer stream]

and if you're gonna port from other games with different engines like UE5 or any engine that uses PBR
it's gonna get a little tricky

a lot of people use tarkov but

models themselves are not that much optimized

so you either find them or buy

[low drift]

Time to see what RE8's engine is

[summer stream]

oh yeah that's pbr

if you're going for guns

[low drift]

Yup

Wanted to bring in the AK the Wolves have

[summer stream]

mm yse
chres redfeld

i think i saw someone porting it to L4D2

[low drift]

I think I saw that one too

I'll see what I can do with that, thanks

[summer stream]

be careful with ports

they can be a bad quality one

[quartz summit]

Hello, is there any way to make RF receiver have a signal for mission marked on the PDA/Currently selected mission? I was looking to make a personal mod for that but, I have no idea about the depths of coding in the Stalker engine so it'd be a massive time sink for me, rather ask if someone with more experience has made something like this or introduced a GPS mod. My objective is to minimize the use of the PDA and this is the only missing niche.

[summer stream]

GPS should be introduced in western goods, no?

[quartz summit]

That's what I'm using, but its GPS and Compass work weird, the closest to the thing I want is the compass which shows time-to-objective in seconds depending on current speed, the GPS simply marks you towards the closest campsite of stalkers IIRC

I was looking for a more convenient alternative, more concrete information, but I do see why it wouldn't have been worked on

[summer stream]

RF receiver depends on frequency, so i would just recommend adding a completely new device with same animations and model, but with a different purpose

you need to make a script that read the coordinates of nearest mission or the one that you have selected

then frequency will be your distance

[quartz summit]

I see, I feel like I can do this using the Western Goods GPS, just gotta modify some of the code, I actually was trying this yesterday but couldn't make a 'function' that worked, so I kept crashing the game every time I tried to take it out lol

Thank you for the help

[simple scaffold]

item_radio.add_target(id, freq, distance) there is item_radio.get_random_freq() and item_radio.clear_target(id) id needs to be a object id like for an item, stash, stalker.

https://github.com/Tosox/STALKER-Anomaly-gamedata/blob/32a985509b2d6abc652d1571fe50de5a84c52dd4/gamedata/scripts/item_radio.script

is the base version. IDK if gamma has a modified one or not, but those functions should still work or lots of base game stuff would break.

[trail sundial]

Porting fallout isn't too bad as long as the textures are good enough.

But some fallout stuff really relies on cube maps to make it look nice and it's hard to get it looking as good with X-ray bumpmaps.

[mortal flint]

😐

[dreamy ruin]

Is there a simple way to edit the game files in some way that I can change the base stats of a weapon?
or do I have to download a bunch of programs like blender?

[naive snow]

You only need notepad

[dreamy ruin]

Can you help me find the files I need to edit? I read that I need to go to gamedata > items > configs but anomaly and gamma folders don't have a folder path like that

the link at the bottom is dead

[simple scaffold]

it moved: https://anomaly-modding-book.netlify.app/docs/getting-started

[simple scaffold]

https://anomaly-modding-book.netlify.app/docs/getting-started/unpacking-game-files this will get you the base game files. for the gamma files you need to use the mo2 data tab. or launch the file explorer from MO2.
https://anomaly-modding-book.netlify.app/docs/category/items

gamma changes how damage works. the modding book won't cover that you will have to ask someone here. (not me i don't gamma)

[simple scaffold]

some gamma weapon edits will be in files named gamedata/configs/mod_system_XXX.ltx those are called DLTX files and are basicly instrucitons to the game to edit the primary files. So if you make a change to a base game or mod weapon and they don't seem to be sticking there is probably a dltx file that is also making a change to that line.

[green root]

Hey all, when I have a mod that I think is ready to share, how do I post in mods-posting? Seems I need the modders tag to post.

[tepid trellis]

hello, how woud i go about adding a item to nimble, or max level merc trader? Frosty weapon pack has an hk416 that accepts an upgrade ( added by FWP ) but doesn't seem to be at any traders. debug only. is it possible for me to add the hk416 upgrade kit to nimble or max merc trader level?

[old wharf]

Anyone do model import commissions for gamma?

[tepid trellis]

would this be the correct ltx file to add the hk416_tac upgrade?

[sudden inlet]

Looks right.
Would only recommend create a new mod with a separate file like it's done, for example, in mo2\mods\91- Pretty Pistols Pack - Blackgrowl\gamedata\configs\items\trade\mod_trade_mercenary_ppp.ltx

[jovial tendon]

Hi, so I got bored, and really wanted to get Rebound: Encounters to work and not crash the game constantly on GAMMA (and frankly vanilla). So I rewrote its 1.7.8 version (the one that is in that google doc thingy to add rebound stuff to gamma) so it actually does what it says on the tin.

I had to edit a gamma file to make the crashes stop, but beyond that it's now working as the mod intended to be working back then. I have no idea if those massive bugs got fixed in more recent versions. (well, i know they didn't fully, given that going back versions was the one option i chose before actually fixing the mod)

Use it, don't. I don't need credits either, it's free of charge.

https://github.com/SerialKicked/ReboundFixed

It's also technically fixing a nasty missing check in a GAMMA file (xr_conditions from VICE for everyone, that doesn't do a Alive() check, see readme)

Edit: The only RE:Encounters file changed is "rebound_encounters.script", the rest hasn't moved, but it was easier to have it all in one.

[naive snow]

Made a THM fixer utility that supports drag and drop. A problem I had initially ran into editing certain THM is that some of them had a wrong THM_CHUNK_MATERIAL with an invalid material set to 6 (the engine only supports 0 to 3) This broke THM editing in AXR toolset and the THM editor 1.1, which to my knowledge are the two most common editors.
Instead of manually regenerating a nw THM or patching in a hex editor the 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 chunk bytes, I got a Claude to spit out a Python Thinker GUI to be able to open and fix wrongful THM.
I'll probably post another archives with the fixed THM files (mainly LFo stuff, so foliage things)

Can I get a pin on this?

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-kennedy-thumbs-up-biohazard-resident-evil-helena-harper-gif-27321869

[novel ruin]

i dont get anything but its look cool and its burn so pinned

[naive snow]

.thm are texture descriptors for the engine, they hold a bunch of info used for rendering. Some of those files were corrupted (the material didn't point to a valid option) so it broke every software that should be able to open and edit them.
My thing fixes it, allowing them to be opened again.

The THM editor isn't my thing, but it shows the options properly

[summer stream]

huh

it could be me

[naive snow]

Nah those were old ass engine thms, and I doubt you were editing foliage

[naive snow]

Tho wtf am I seeing in this version, bump version and shading model? What have you been cooking hombre?

[summer stream]

not mine

idk what's this

[naive snow]

This is clearly made for another engine version, probably IXray? I know they have PBR which would match with the input of PBR map

[summer stream]

prob

[naive snow]

Dunno where or how they're packing all this extra data, but this might break functionality with AXR toolset and I'm not sure how the engine will like it. Might be fine if they've packed the extra info at the bottom

[summer stream]

it's pretty complex by itself but eh

[naive snow]

I mean most of it is the standard thing of the engine. The only thing that really changes is the Shading model, bump version, sslr factor and the PBR map, they moved some of the info to the SDK flags, like the format, mip filter, etc

[unique badger]

Hi, if someone is interested in trying https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-alife-plus and give feedback. With default settings the impact is subtle but significant.

[tacit wind]

How do I make zombies less tanky and not take 20 headshots?

I feel like there might be some healing script active and they keep getting up until you shoot them when they're on the ground? If yes I'd like to remove it

They're menacing enough with redone ai

[novel ruin]

you should repost on anomaly's addon page, not CoP mods

seem pretty cool though

[native oyster]

Has anyone played around with the crows? Is there a way to influence their behavior? I am wondering if it would be possible to make them favor flying over areas where mutants are hanging out, just as a immersive way to indicate mutant presence.

[lilac ibex]

Yes. Engine

[sudden inlet]

Saw you have md file there, it would be cool to have this project on github 👀

[unique badger]

It is on github, but currently it's part of a greater stalker project i have, containing many original mods, dozens of modified GAMMA mods, several gigs of reverse engineered data and other stuff. I will separate them soon.

[sudden inlet]

Stalker modding this year is

[rough lion]

Why isn't it on Anomaly page if it's meant for Anomaly?

[unique badger]

Don't know what do you mean by anomaly page. When you add a mod these are the options you get

[tame steppe]

you can add an addon to the anomaly moddb page, anomaly is a mod by itself

[rough lion]

mod, addon, tomato, potato

[scarlet granite]

Do you guys have any idea why hit callback would not work? Im working in a shooting range. The targets are physics objects

[random fulcrum]

try using the bullet callbacks

[neat stream]

Wanting to see some new guns, can anyone recommend me some gun mods, ideally ones that add guns fitting in the world, not really wanting a bunch of super tactical type guns (please @ with responses)

[random fulcrum]

are you making a mod for this

[neat stream]

i think i misunderstood this channel

[scarlet granite]

Worked. Thank you

[scarlet granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOomdEApptM

[random fulcrum]

dang ghentuong isn't here

that guy spent like a year grinding on a shooting range

[unique badger]

Hi, finally solved https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/alifeplus-v1-0-01

[turbid lily]

have to register the callback with your hit callback function inside it's object binder, would either require monkey patching or if using a system like hideout furniture; adding your own wrapper class.

[brave kernel]

Anyone know if there's a tutorial video or something on how to make modded guns?

[tame steppe]

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message under ‘how to port guns’, it’s 2 years old though

still good info

[brave kernel]

Thank you 🙏

[trail sundial]

These guides will teach you most of what you need to know except textures, but the stuff verdatim linked goes over that.

https://youtu.be/jb8pJraU3RA?si=3LjbMkJYjx2nDSTE

https://youtu.be/mBHNhwuLs3g?si=ZFAYtMtfHSWu8ZOY

https://youtu.be/u8crq79zMfs?si=4A9uBe1CRLDYrnmi

[queen spire]

Can I make a new .ltx to add more defines to an already existing list?

Namely the milspec pda on 1.18.0 uses an ltx file for PDAs and I wanna know if I need to overwrite it or if I can just make a new one which has only the new PDAs

Meaning this one.

Making another file and naming it fe_pda_defs.ltx and just adding those pdas instead of overwrite would be better if I can just add em no?

I do need to hook it somehow though if I do I think? No clue how that works tho

[tame steppe]

you can DLTX the original file or make another one depending on how it is used

DLTX will almost always work

[queen spire]

It simply reads it to look up all the pdas

By dltx... You mean making like a zzzzzz_pda_defs.ltx?

Oooor

Cause being real I got like half a braincell which didn't learn this codebase at all

[tame steppe]

the script?

[queen spire]

I'm just putting general logic into how I do things, so idk how to make that.

[tame steppe]

if it’s included in other LTXs via the include function it might be possible to make another file with the corresponding suffix / prefix like how all w_*.ltx files gets loaded into weapon system

okay anyway DLTX is better

[tame steppe]

mod_(root_file_name)_(anything you want).ltx

dumb formatting

[queen spire]

I might need to be at PC to understand tbh

[tame steppe]

look at the DLTX guide in the modding book

[queen spire]

This one doesn't really make me understand what I'm supposed to do

Aye

[tame steppe]

it’ll help you

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

also I hate how z stacking has become the definite feature of DLTX instead of mod_

[trail sundial]

Mfw frosty hitting us with mod_system_zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[summer stream]

mfw i see another zzzzz script and i genuinely fall asleep

[fair canopy]

This is only an issue in gamma and because off frosty

None of his mods need to be z stacked because it's all unique to begin with

[lilac ibex]

[summer stream]

i wonder why

[fair canopy]

Frosty though z stacking was funny

Grok did it probably because it was the fastest way to fix things with all the stuff gamma had

[lilac ibex]

zetniki blya

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-disintegration-meme-ai-meme-funny-gif-5585270952676380091

[ashen hatch]

How would one assign an omf file for hands to an omf file for guns?

[tame steppe]

what do you mean by assign? also what are you trying to achieve

if you want the gun ogf to reference the hand omf you can define it using ogf editor, but it will crash

both omf files for hands and omf files for guns are the same thing btw

hand anims are just placed in a unique folder

[trail sundial]

I think you just need to put all the hands and weapon anm in the ltx in order to get the HUD and hands working together in game.

[ashen hatch]

I did, but it still uses the base svd anims

I modified the svd anims to fit my gun

[ashen hatch]

these are my folders

it worked before, idk why it causes issues now

I could try renaming every motion

[tame steppe]

wait so you edited the hand animations to fit your new weapon?

[ashen hatch]

yeah

[tame steppe]

okay so the way the engine works is that it loads every single hand omf motion into one list

if there are repeats in motion names it is the last loaded alphabetically that overrides

[tame steppe]

so yeah you need to rename the hand motions, they have to be unique to not conflict

[ashen hatch]

oki, I will try that then

[tame steppe]

because it’s all in one list at the end of the day

[tame steppe]

good luck

[ashen hatch]

[tame steppe]

so assumably the name of your hand omf is lower alphabetically than the name of the original hand omf and thus the winning motions are from the original omf

at least that’s how I think it works, don’t have a strong source for that

[ashen hatch]

welp it shouldnt be a problem now since I will rename th emotions

[ashen hatch]

thanks for the help

[tame steppe]

awesome, glad to have been of assistance ❤️‍🔥

[ashen hatch]

[simple scaffold]

with very very rare exceptions it isn't functionaly* needed in scripts. I made a mistake in sugesting it in the first place. There is utility in identifying a script that contains monkey patches to make code analsysi easier, but stacking extras doesn't do any good.

*aaa is morelikly to be needed, and i have a yyy scritp that has to be before any of my zzz scripts. (i find triplets asteticly pleasing in script names)

now DLTX files, order in thos can matter a lot so ppl will keep piling on zz to make thier changes the last ones. Until we get a mod manager that can rename dltx files to adjust thier load order i don't see it stopping.

[random fulcrum]

there's a dltx file in gamma with 17 (seventeen) z stacked

that shit is beyond hysterical

[gaunt pawn]

Need some help, if anyone is a monkey-patch expert. I'm trying to patch Faction ID's init function to change some elements. Below is the whole script. The beginning print statement works, but I can never get any printf inside __init to work. I've tried with tons of other functions but I'm stumped. Any ideas?

printf("Start of override script")

local og_ui_faction_id_hud_init = factionID_hud_mcm.UIFactionIDHUD.__init

function factionID_hud_mcm.UIFactionIDHUD:__init()
  og_ui_faction_id_hud_init(self)
  debug("overriding native")
end

[simple scaffold]

what "printf inside __init" are you refering to?

[gaunt pawn]

sorry, debug is just a wrapper around printf. Its just printf here

[simple scaffold]

So this isn't the "entire script" then 😛

you are sure your debug wrapper works?

is there anything else in gamma patching this function?

[gaunt pawn]

Lmao touche 😄 Yes im sure the debug function works, I use it in all my mods.
I don't think anything else patches this function, or even patches this script. I grep through the entire GAMMA mods directory and the only places that UIFactionIDHUD is mentioned is in factionID_hud_mcm.script and in my script

[dire rain]

Zob

[gaunt pawn]

I've noticed that in the log, factionID_hud_mcm.script always reloads after my monkey patch. Could this be relevent?

* [13:11:21.870]  loading script z_ym_no_gray_dead_stalkers_faction_id.script
[13:11:21.870] Start of override script
* [13:11:21.870]  loading script factionID_hud_mcm.script

[simple scaffold]

any script that isn't loaded before a patching script will be loaded by the act of patching.

it shouldn't be loaded again.

I do not understand how an f script would not be loaded before a z script.

(that's partially a lie, i do know how to create this senero but it's cursed and no one should be doing it. is anything else patching the factionid script?)

[gaunt pawn]

Im certain. This is the ripgrep command I run in the mods folder rg -i factionid_hud_mcm -tscript ("rg "= ripgrep) and it returns:

3:local og_ui_faction_id_hud_init = factionID_hud_mcm.UIFactionIDHUD.__init
5:function factionID_hud_mcm.UIFactionIDHUD:__init()
10:-- local og_init = factionID_hud_mcm.UIFactionIDHUD.__init
14:-- local _display = factionID_hud_mcm.display
16:-- factionID_hud_mcm.display = function(faction, name, rank)
30:--     -- factionID_hud_mcm.UIFactionIDHUD.__init = function(self)
80:--     factionID_hud_mcm.display = function(faction, name, rank)

these are the only results

from my script

What is the cursed scenario you mentioned? Surely Grok would never 😮

[simple scaffold]

the faction script should load twice. once at the first main menu along with all mcm scripts. Your sctipt should not be loading at that time.

Once a save game has started loading all scripts in the scripts folder are loaded in alphabetical order (unless force loaded by another script)

unless you have something loading your script out of order, it should be well after a script starting with f.

[simple scaffold]

Script A is loaded normaly.
Script B nils the script A namespace
Script C patches scipt A causing it to be loaded again.

the reason this is cursed is that any side effects at load time, like most mokey patches, happen both times script A loads and that can be bad. even without script C patches or callbacks registerd by script A at load time can reload script A later. what script B is doing is cursed and should never be done.

[gaunt pawn]

That's what I'm seeing:

some log lines
* [13:14:10.330]  loading script extended_movement_sounds_mcm.script
* [13:14:10.330]  loading script extra_portraits_mcm.script
* [13:14:10.330]  loading script factionid_hud_mcm.script
* [13:14:10.331]  loading script free_zoomv2_mcm.script
* [13:14:10.331]  loading script grok_artefacts_bip_mcm.script
* [13:14:10.331]  loading script grok_casings_sounds_mcm.script
* [13:14:10.331]  loading script grok_drop_item_press_key_mcm.script
some more log

then the alphabetical loading:

* [13:14:13.292]  loading script z_taskboard_overrides.script
* [13:14:13.292]  loading script z_weapon_cover_tilt_rattle_wstfg.script
* [13:14:13.292]  loading script z_workshop_tool_double_click_open_tools.script
* [13:14:13.292]  loading script z_ym_no_gray_dead_stalkers_faction_id.script
[13:14:13.292] Start of override script
* [13:14:13.292]  loading script factionID_hud_mcm.script
* [13:14:13.293]  loading script z_z_item_icon_info.script
* [13:14:13.293]  loading script zatura_autostack.script

Here it loads again

I have no idea what could be doing it

[simple scaffold]

this is likely the main menu block, should only happen once.

[simple scaffold]

if this is the fully alphabetical block it should happen every time you load a save. you can load a save to force it another time. Once you do that you should be able to clearly see the break in the three blocks. how many times does the faction script show up in the third block?

MCM loads all the _mcm script files at the main menu. there should only be a small handful of non mcm scripts loaded at that time. this makes it very distict from the script load that happens as a save is loaded.

all scripts are loaded every time a save is loaded. the entier lua enviroment is cleared and rebuilt from nothing as a save loads so this isn't a script being reloaded as much as it is LUA being rebooted and the script loading again for the first time in that LUA enviroment.

[gaunt pawn]

It looks like the faction script loads 3 times, from main menu to loading save. Once, when the mcm scripts load, once when the alphabetical scripts load and pass over "F" scripts, and then again when my script loads, after. Every save reload, my script loads, then the faction script again

[simple scaffold]

this isn't again, necessarily, but it is late. this should be part of a very large block of hundreds of scripts in roughly alphabetical order and the faction script should load no later than game_achievements.script

[simple scaffold]

oh, duh i'm silly:

put a print at the very end of your script. I bet the faction script isn't loading and your script is actually failing to load at the first referance to the faction script and will never make it to the last line in your script.

Or launch the game in debug mode, lua errors that stop scripts from loading should be printed if the game is in debug mode.

script load is a special time. lua errors during script load do not crash, they just prevent the script from being loaded.

[gaunt pawn]

Nah my script is loading fine. the ending printf statement runs through. I'm not getting any "failed to load" errors on my script

log looks like this:

* [13:50:21.679]  loading script z_ym_no_gray_dead_stalkers_faction_id.script
[13:50:21.679] Start of override script
* [13:50:21.679]  loading script factionID_hud_mcm.script
[13:50:21.680] end of my script

so that's something

[simple scaffold]

i see no end of script print.

[gaunt pawn]

[simple scaffold]

that is wierd. time to poke randomly at things.

change the z in your script name to fad it won't make it work but it might answer a question about how the faction script is behaving.

[gaunt pawn]

about what I expected:

* [13:58:08.819]  loading script fad_ym_no_gray_dead_stalkers_faction_id.script
[13:58:08.819] Start of override script
* [13:58:08.819]  loading script factionID_hud_mcm.script
[13:58:08.820] end of my script

Removing mentions of the faction script, also expected, stops the reloading of the faction script

[simple scaffold]

i assume the faciton scipt is loadging just a few lines above?

[gaunt pawn]

oh wait, thats weird

* [13:58:32.339]  loading script extended_movement_sounds_mcm.script
* [13:58:32.339]  loading script extra_portraits_mcm.script
* [13:58:32.339]  loading script factionid_hud_mcm.script
* [13:58:32.339]  loading script free_zoomv2_mcm.script
* [13:58:32.339]  loading script grok_artefacts_bip_mcm.script
* [13:58:32.340]  loading script grok_casings_sounds_mcm.script

[gaunt pawn]

It actually doesn't

Oh shit some of these are loading out of order. Could this have something to do with me being on the "Next Gen" exes?

[simple scaffold]

no, patches can do that, it is one of the reason to put a z at the start of a monkey patch script. so that a patch script starting with b doesn't pull a script starting with f to load early and break somones load order assumptions.

and scripts like aaa_rax_icon_overide are deliberartly loading other scripts out of order for reasons.

[simple scaffold]

i think i figured it out, some dumbass put capital letters in the name of thier script.

there is a small chance that your script will work if you lower case all the IDs.

do that first.

if it isn't enough also lowercase the other scripts file name.

capital letters are also cursed when used in flle names, ltx key or section names.

[gaunt pawn]

are you fricking kidding me??? thats all that I needed to fix??

it works now 😮

jfc never change Anomaly, never change

[simple scaffold]

leson you should take away, avoid capital letters in file names. (and ltx key and section names as well trust me)

there is some odd inconsistent force to lower case crap going on in different places in the engine and it is better to just never test

(the lua and xml impementaions seem to comply with thier standard for capitital letted, but don't trust anthing made by xray itself. [which includes the file loader for xml and lua files])

[gaunt pawn]

Thank you, Raven, you saved my day lol

[warm hatch]

Is there a way of increasing the pen of 8mm Mauser? It's pitiful compared to the real life performance of the round and how little of it traders sell.

[simple scaffold]

NP, any time part of the log and your code have diferent capitalzation for what should be the same thing that is a red flag, it just took me a while to see it.

[warm hatch]

I found the files on my own, but there's 4 of them. Which one is the one I should change?

The paths are:
C:\GAMMA\.Grok's Modpack Installer\G.A.M.M.A\modpack_addons\G.A.M.M.A. Close Quarter Combat\gamedata\configs\items\weapons
C:\GAMMA\.Grok's Modpack Installer\resources\Stalker_GAMMA\G.A.M.M.A\modpack_addons\G.A.M.M.A. Close Quarter Combat\gamedata\configs\items\weapons
C:\GAMMA\mods\G.A.M.M.A. Close Quarter Combat\gamedata\configs\items\weapons
C:\GAMMA\mods\181- Ballistics Overhaul (GBOOBS) - Grokitach\gamedata\configs\items\weapons

I read in an old message in this channel that it's probably the Ballistics Overhaul file, but I want to be certain before changing things.

[naive snow]

!mo2search just look at which one wins the conflict

[queen pine]

@warm hatch Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods.⠀

[warm hatch]

Thanks for the help, but I've decided to simply create my own mod that does nothing but this one change and put it at the top of the load order.
Now, assuming I want to change the pen to BR 45, is this all I need to write?

[warm hatch]

Another question: how do I test that this is working?

[naive snow]

Turn on the debug and shoot someone, look at the damage print in the log

[warm hatch]

How do I check the log?

[naive snow]

Use the in-game console or check in your Anomaly/appdata/logs

[tame steppe]

I see you’re using an exclamation mark, that’s a DLTX syntax but your file name is not in DLTX format

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

[warm hatch]

Like this?

[tame steppe]

yup, that should work assuming there’s no other DLTX with this change

[warm hatch]

Alright, but I still don't know to check the log. The file in the Anomaly logs folder only tells me the engine starts correctly and the in-game console doesn't seem to update when I shoot someone.

[naive snow]

Are you in debug mode?

[lament current]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGoDBhFiu4A

[warm hatch]

Yes, in god mode too, to avoid dying

[nocturne rover]

is it possible to add a function to Moss perkifact to completely negate radiation from eating raw meat
would local radiation_increase work or something similar

[lilac ibex]

Kewl

[naive snow]

disable Tosox Mini Mods Repo
or hide zzz_stop_addon_log_spam.script or delete line 26 - 29 within it

[north helm]

you should post a thread on #1035807043933720576, awesome mod!

[north helm]

oh, nvm, I saw it.

[nocturne rover]

so i was able to half-fix it
in perk_based_artefacts.script manually add an effect of instantly removing radiation like this

    mutant_part_dog_meat = function(self, actor)
        local bleeding_cure_boost = 0.0015
        self:add_effect(function()
            actor.bleeding = bleeding_cure_boost
            change_psy_health(0.001)

** actor:change_radiation(-1.0)**
end)

however damage and limb damage still happens and can't quite figure it out

maybe steal some function of recording actor's health before eating and applying it after eating i'm really not sure

[random fulcrum]

bhs limb health loss happens on update instead of on hit, raw meat has instant damage upon consumption

iirc bhs' threshold to take a hit point off of a bar was like 2.54% damage (oddly specific i know, but this is from eons ago and it might have changed)

you could try to just remove the instant damage from the raw meat items by changing their eat_health value to 0

or to a value smaller than the bhs threshold which you can check in the zzz_player_injuries script

[nocturne rover]

hmm if i can figure out how i can also do eat_radiation value to 0 too

[devout fiber]

Is there anyway to implement bullet whizzing and snapping when being shot at?

[random fulcrum]

brochacho this is already a thing

and has been since shadow of chernobyl

[devout fiber]

Yeah but it's trash

[random fulcrum]

then rip better sounds from idk arma

[summer stream]

or cope

[devout fiber]

https://klipy.com/gifs/enojado-27

[summer stream]

[barren pilot]

Cheemsus chrimst, is that a fallout sniper rifle?

[old current]

Is there a list of requirements for weapon mods, in case I'd like to make a mod to be added officially? like inspect/unjam anims, support for gamma scopes, etc?

[tame steppe]

I don’t think so

[hoary cipher]

took me wayy to long but faceshields, helmets, gasmasks and outfits themselves are all separate items i can control with loadouts the same way weapons are so ill pretty much have full control ove the way that npcs spawn and the loadout they have within randomization, now fully realizing you actually loot what you see on an npc, i have some small issue to work out but mostly done all npc related scripting

[tame steppe]

this year is going to be crazy for stalker modding

[hoary cipher]

already is 2 diffrent MT open source modded exes is crazy awesome and im just getting started for the year too

[lilac ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-disintegration-meme-ai-meme-funny-gif-5585270952676380091

[amber dune]

Saw a mod recently that put a white dot over nearby items that you could pick up in the world and gave a little tooltip when you were close enough (name, weight, value.), does anyone know what mod this is or if there is a similar one compatible with GAMMA?

So in essence removing the need to hold down F to see what's on the ground with some added info

[mortal flint]

!dot

[queen pine]

@amber dune To turn on interactive dot UI like in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.® 2: Heart© of Chornobyl™, find and turn on 452- Interaction Dot Marks - Catspaw in MO2

[amber dune]

You're amazing, thank you

[mortal flint]

this is https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/967696698065436682

[amber dune]

Oh sorry, where do questions like these go? #🔨modded-gamma-support ?

[mortal flint]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/958342885005221898 or https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1029824156289732649

unless you really have intentions to make a mod

[amber dune]

Aah, thought this fell under technical support and avoided those channels, my bad

[turbid lily]

any here that currently runs or has used the latest version of anomaly subtitles

[harsh crest]

hello guys, I have a trijicon ACOG sight that zoom too little. is there any way to increase the magnification?

[turbid lily]

under file: configs/items/weapons/addon_scopes.ltx
section [wpn_addon_scope_acog]
field: scope_zoom_factor

you want do create a dltx file under the path configs/items/weapons/mod_addon_scopes_<my_mod_name>.ltx
and the following inside the dltx file:

![wpn_addon_scope_acog]
scope_zoom_factor = 89.6 ;4.0x

where the scope_zoom_factor has comments stating the magnification 21.4 for 1.0x, 44.8 for 2.0x and so on

the value for scope_zoom_factor is a float (number with decimal point) so you can increase/decrease it incrementaly like doing scope_zoom_factor = 56.0 for 2.5x

@harsh crest

[hoary cipher]

Does anyone happen to know which script in base anomaly controls the NPC head tracking player when close?

[rough lion]

its a modded exe feature

[hoary cipher]

It's not it was in xr_meet.script

[random fulcrum]

it's from modded exes but gamma unpacks the .db files that come with the exes for some reason

[hoary cipher]

Wait so it is also in modded exes too?...do you happen to know which script it's in in there?

[random fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-warfare-cod4-yuri-makarov-gif-23084516

[hoary cipher]

?

It's "options_modded_exes_stalker.script"

Wait omg guys tah k you so much that was it

Actually just spent 3 hours debugging a toggle option fml

[south steeple]

Is there any way to make it so the crosshair is visible during zoom for every weapon without needing to make 400000 DLTX edits?

[naive snow]

Just dltx the master sections of the weapons

If the values aren't already set further down

[random fulcrum]

they are set per weapon

[south steeple]

yeah I think you'd need to manually override every weapon

[random fulcrum]

get ascendant crosshairs from moddb

[naive snow]

Yeah but if you target the weapon base section it will trickle down via inheritance

[random fulcrum]

it's a customizable static crosshair with an option to also appear when aiming down sights or scoped in

[green root]

Hi all, asked a few times how to get the tag to post in mods-posting, but never found an answer. I made a mod that reworks damage in the game, I posted it over on moddb if anyone would like to check it out: https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/obrien-gamma-combat-and-recoil-rework

Long story short it reworks the damage calculation in groks original scripts, and I rebalanced all guns/gear/artifacts. Damage now primarily comes from the ammo, so all guns that are 7.62x51 will do the same damage for example. If you want to scale certain weapons you can, I go into detail in the mod details, it's a bit of text wall but it's fairly easy to work with.

If anyone tries it out please let me know if you run into any issues, if dropped in last in your load order it is plug and play with base gamma 0.9.4

[random fulcrum]

that's the thing, it's set to true on all weapons on a per weapon basis

so you need to disable it for all weapons

if you just set it to false on the base weapon it won't do anything because it's set to true afterwards

[south steeple]

ima powershell it out i think

[naive snow]

Yeah then if it's redefined and modified further down, that's just a pain

[random fulcrum]

but why tho do you need the engine's dynamic crosshair?

if not then just get the ascendant crosshairs mod

[south steeple]

I wanna see the 3d ballistics crosshair while ADS to sanity check some sights

[random fulcrum]

the engine's dynamic crosshair is broken anyways because it doesn't update its size if you're moving the mouse at all

[random fulcrum]

this is an option in the modded exes settings too

[south steeple]

doesn't work tho

[random fulcrum]

you can force render both the crosshair and the barrel line

that's weird bro it worked for me last time i tried

and i didn't disable the zoom_hide_crosshair thing

maybe check console commands?

[south steeple]

i will send screenies to confirm im looking at the right setting

[random fulcrum]

mayhaps it's just not on the settings menu

i remember i spent like an hour tinkering with shit in the console to get it to render at all times

because i didn't even check if it was in settings xdddd

thing is i got it to show

[south steeple]

remember what the console command you used was?

[random fulcrum]

no

[south steeple]

guh

[random fulcrum]

autocomplete from common terms

type idk crosshair

aimpos

things like that

[south steeple]

sad

back to powershelling

[random fulcrum]

try other commands

dawg i'm telling you it works

i'm getting home in like 20 mins i'll check myself

[south steeple]

maybe i am perfect dodging the right keyword to find the command

[green root]

does the dot shift on the screen? doesn't it just stay in the center? Why not just use an onscreen crosshair or mark it?

[south steeple]

this is in reference to 3d ballistics, so the crosshair shifts and moves around according to your weapon's viewmodel

[random fulcrum]

found a screenshot for proof

[green root]

oh based on the gun actually shooting a projectile, okay got it.

[south steeple]

yeah it's cool as hell

[random fulcrum]

please clap at how hilariously offset the barrel line and the crosshair are in this screenshot

(that's default gamma too btw)

[green root]

And we have no weapon sway... so... damn that's off.

[south steeple]

me when the cheap airsoft sight i bought on amazon won't hold zero after shooting twice

[naive snow]

It's just the accuracy stat

[random fulcrum]

there is weapon sway bromosapiens

[green root]

It's not much though.

[random fulcrum]

it scales with arm health and the weapon's weight

get an ultra heavy weapon and cut both of your arms off and you'll be swaying around like crazy

[green root]

Oh yeah if the arm health is low, but I always felt the weapon sway should be higher even when in your arms are good.

[random fulcrum]

it is there

anyways mods making

[south steeple]

no the weapon would be rock steady because it would be laying on the ground

[green root]

Not wrong

[random fulcrum]

awkwardly enough the 3db crosshair doesn't show dispersion

you can't imagine how infuriating that feels

to me at least because i thought lander beat me to the punch with the proper dynamic crosshair

only for his crosshair to be handled entirely differently than the regular engine dynamic crosshair

so if now i want to continue my work on that i'll have to make it work with 3db as well

shoutouts to prof lander tho

[south steeple]

A-

[warm forum]

Is creating new Quests difficult for someone with no experience?

[south steeple]

you can force it by

1. setting ADS to toggle
2. ADS'ing
3. then setting hud_crosshair back to 1 in console

this only works until you ADS again, but fine for what i need so no need to powershell hooray

thank you @random fulcrum

[fair canopy]

This is old as hell and was fixed

[random fulcrum]

real cool

[quiet adder]

Howdy all, I've been wondering if its possible to make a small config edit to allow the base M4A1 to have its front sight post with optics again.

Doing a quick Google AI (I know ew) search lead me to trying to alter the .ltx visual and hud file paths but I tried it in 434- 3DSS Siber Reanimation -Andtheherois which I believe is the mod that made the change, but it doesnt seem to be coming into effect in game when I add my own version of the LTX above in the load order.

Further investigation says it could be a DLTX Override but Im struggling to find information on how to adjust that. Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction?

[trail sundial]

You'd have to edit the OGF (the mesh) for it to still have the front sight with an optic on.

Or if the meshes with the front sight and optic exist but are overwritten by the athi reanimation, you could probably disable the athi reanimation.

But if you want the athi anims and the front sight you're probably gonna be editing the ogfs

[granite badger]

I have 0 knowledge in mod making for stalker, but i need to ask,
Is it possible to fix this mod to make it work with the latest anomaly version and with gamma (if needed)

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/arszis-thirst-overhaul

[jade onyx]

you'd probably want to use the version in arszi's rad overhaul by demonized https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/dltx-arszis-radiation-overhaul-demonized-edition

grab the script out of the thirst folder and see what you could do with it

[leaden glade]

Hello! Is it possible to make a custom armor/outfit?

[lilac ibex]

yes.

[leaden glade]

can you please let me know where i can learn about it, sir?

[trail sundial]

https://youtu.be/2jntIkRhjFI?si=tL5ruWQQRDCJQ4Mn

[leaden glade]

thank you so much, sir

[warm hatch]

It worked! Thanks a lot!

[last swallow]

Anyone up to test lsp for anomaly? Might contain some bugs still but does ease up the scripting somewhat.
features atm

• Autocomplete for engine API functions, mod scripts, and globals
• Go-to-definition (F12) for engine functions (opens stub) and mod functions (opens winning override)
• Hover info with parameter types and return types (as far as it was feasible, for example engine stubs have general param names etc)
• Diagnostics (errors, warnings) from LuaLS, same as any lua lsp
• Syntax highlighting for .script files, again just lua lsp but with some extra for anomaly scripting
• Engine API highlighting (XRay engine symbols in distinct teal color, all stubs are made from x-ray monolith with dx11 build configuration)
• Mod load order awareness (resolves the virtual filesystem based on modlist.txt, last writer wins, does create a temp folder currently due to symlink problems with win vs unix line endings)
• Override chain visibility (command to see which mods provide a file)
• Code snippets for class binder, MCM config, callback registration, and DXML modxml
• Auto-setup (detects GAMMA/Anomaly folder structure, prompts if not found, manual config available)
• Windows + Linux, auto-detected, both og Lua lsps included + the custom middleware for proper support of engine

This has been a bit of a side quest, but does improve workflow a lot imo. For installation this can be installed trough vscode, I haven't yet made any other plugin for the server as I use only vscode with stalker modding.

[lapis vortex]

@restive pawn @sinful wasp 1p59 repos on new VSS. Thoughts?

[sinful wasp]

doesn't it feel like..... pointed downwards?
maybe its just me

feels... just fine, at least it isn't a total telescope across half your screen

[lapis vortex]

im looking down a little

[sinful wasp]

as comparison it looks.... okay

[lapis vortex]

1p59 is a big ass scope, so it's the one I'm most worried about

I should sneak a full auto line of code into the VSS

[restive pawn]

looks better I think

[lapis vortex]

which AKs do people have the most complaints about

i might knock out a couple

[sinful wasp]

101, 103, 105, AKMS, 74u

check other ones too tbh

[lapis vortex]

yeah there are a tons of guns i hate the positions on tbh

but i was pushed over the edge because no good VSS mods

quick Krink repos

[naive snow]

Make sure to display the barrel line when doing any repositions, so the ADS/Hip firing with 3D ballistics still lines up

[lapis vortex]

yeah i've been also checking it against the crosshair/each scope reticle making sure the bullets go where they're supposed to

[naive snow]

You shouldn't be basing it on the crosshair, they're off in a lot of cases. The barrel line display is the most reliable indicator with the center point

[lapis vortex]

I'm basing it on the g_aimpos thing

the dot that shows where the barrel is pointed

[night plinth]

does anyone know where i can modify collision damage and the threshold for it? my movement speed is so high i stub my toes or something and take a ton of damage while sprinting

[nocturne rover]

so im trying to rebalance perkifacts and that part is going fine
However it completely breaks localization/text files, entire text just disappears
after looking around i figured out that text for perkifacts comes from 287- G.A.M.M.A. Massive Text Overhaul Project - SageDaHerb and Dr.Pr1nkos

so i just copied the text file, copied the path where it should be at
but description text for perkifacts is still blank

been feeling pretty sick massive headache but even without that i don't think i can figure out why text just doesn't apply anymore

thinking about it, text shouldn't disappear to begin with because the file was never overwritten, so maybe i screwed something up in my initial script and deleted something? I really don't understand which file calls for description text

[nocturne rover]

#1054718548800454697 there's a perk called "Jump man" and tier 1 already gives i think 15% threshold to any fall damage
might be what you looking for

[night plinth]

might work, can probably modify it to be either really high or negate fall damage all together, there’s like… 1, maybe 2 spots high enough to kill you in game anyway

[fair canopy]

Protip, all the 3db positions are set, there isn't any other orientation that can get you the correct 3db setting. You can only adjust positions

[lapis vortex]

yeah i've noticed that the repositions I'm doing aren't at all messing with where the bullets are going, it's just positions

[random fulcrum]

needs a full ass rework in the engine because collision damage is also how burer and poltergeist throws damage you

[tame steppe]

not exactly sure what you’re problem is but the script that makes descriptions is this https://github.com/Tosox/STALKER-Anomaly-gamedata/blob/v1.5.2/gamedata/scripts/ui_item.script

I would honestly start with searching if any of your xmls in your mod list has the same id that your item is using

[nocturne rover]

ill take a loot thank u

[granite badger]

i have the mod i updated, it seems to be working, if i want people to test (and look at the code as it my first time), do i post it here or make a new post on #1035807043933720576 ?

[naive snow]

You can ask for advices for code parts you're unsure about, but I sincerely doubt people will do a full code review for you

For the rest just make sure to read the FAQ post in the mod posting channel

[granite badger]

So, as the name says, i updated the arszis thirst overhaul to work with MCM and gamma. it seems to be working (at least the part where you start to get the thirst debuffs :P and the config trough mcm). Since this is my first mod, if someone more experience can check, i would be very grateful.
Also, testers and/or suggestions are very welcome

[granite badger]

fair. the code is small, its just that this is my first mod for anything stalker and the code is small, so i would really like someone with more experince to check it if possible

[tame steppe]

imo as long as it works and isn’t stupidly unoptimised it should be fine, unless you want to learn alternate methods of doing what you’re doing

[granite badger]

i mean, learning alternate methods (better) is always good

[dim hare]

Since I have no easy way to get back to base GAMMA at the moment to check for myself, is this PSY icon visible (the little square bits specifically) when the player is in their inventory? When I open the inventory the little "blocks" disappear but the PSY icon-text remains. I'm working on an immersive HUD mod that hides the HUD until the inventory is opened and I need to know if it's something I did or functionality I need to poke at

[granite badger]

icon continues. i am using a mod that changes it (LASS) but i dont think it affects it

[dim hare]

So the "bar" / little white boxes portion of it remains visible when your inventory is open?

[granite badger]

the bar no. the PSY yes

[dim hare]

Wonderful, then I need to go digging through scripts to figure out what's turning it off... Thanks a bunch!

[balmy idol]

I'm so proud of my quad NODs AAAAAAA

[tame steppe]

what exactly did you change in perk_based_artefacts.script? theres something going on with your script that breaks the description, also did you have to overwrite the whole thing...?

[nocturne rover]

yea i understand now i've deleted an extra line that breaks the script it in the middle
i changed a bunch of stats and tried to remove some bizarre downsides in attempts to rebalance perkifacts, but again, have 0 experience
i made sure the actual stats work but forgot to make sure the text with description works too
i'll make sure to pay more attention when changing perk_based_artefacts.script thanks seriously

[tame steppe]

what was the problem exactly? I’m invested now

was it that the script couldn’t launch?

most of the changes you made seemed harmless except for maybe some function calls

[nocturne rover]

dont know exactly where it breaks yet i just know if i don't load the script - descriptions work
so unironically deleted something i shouldn't have thats what i think
but i'll only start fixing it on monday

[tame steppe]

oh I see

I’ll investigate it later today then

[tame steppe]

alright found it, when you deleted self:register("actor_on_before_hit", function(s_hit, bone_id, flags)if valid_hits[s_hit.type] thens_hit.power = s_hit.power * 1.2 end at line 1880 you forgot to delete this erroneous end). This is because the expression function(s_hit, bone_id, flags)if valid_hits[s_hit.type] thens_hit.power = s_hit.power * 1.2 end had an end attached that closed the function itself and also closed the self:register(). when you didnt delete this you introduced an erroneous end, and further more, it also makes an erroneous ). just deleting line 1880 end) fixes it

also before the fix, it wasnt just the text not showing. since the script couldnt have been run at all, no perkifact actually worked

[hoary cipher]

npcs now have outfits decided by loadouts using the same weighted system and i have it so outfits can have multiple ogf variants in the config so stalkers can spawn with say randomized camo of the same suit and players can use this same system too this is increasing variation without having the bulk size of all the custom npc/player outfit packs like previously this is going well

[fair canopy]

This is based off HD models?

[hoary cipher]

the models i am using is kvma right now yes

[fair canopy]

That's too bad

[hoary cipher]

why?

[hoary cipher]

?

[fair canopy]

HD models is booty

[hoary cipher]

bruhhh

[fair canopy]

I mean good job for doing it

[hoary cipher]

i dont like gfy models and dont know of any better realistic looking models so 🤷‍♂️

if you know of some better realism models please let me know lol

[fair canopy]

I prefer dux. All the "realism" npc models to me are kinda cringe

[hoary cipher]

ahh i see, well that changes things then i like realism and fits much better with what im doing if it was an actual model issue that would be different but thats preference then, it wouldnt be an insanely hard process to make this to other models but it would be involved to say the least.

[fair canopy]

Yeah, you're pretty much locked Into the models

[hoary cipher]

not really...

[rough lion]

I also prefer Dux Models for a more modern modlist

While I also prefer BTTR Armor rework for a more old school approach

[fair canopy]

i mean in terms of effort

im guessing it works the same as MAS for guns

[hoary cipher]

tbh i like the actual real world gear a lot more however i can see myself making the monolith use older gear easily

[hoary cipher]

not really? kinda? yesnt? hard to explain how it works without giving it all away but its not an exact 1:1 for mas and i didnt even use it as a base when making it surprisingly

[nocturne rover]

holy shit it's almost unreasonable how you went through that but definitely very grateful because you saved me a lot of time, i would've probably just started from scratch
it works exactly as it should, perfect
gonna go upload actual workable version then asap

[tame steppe]

I had to install bloody WinMerge to compare the differences between your file and the original file but glad to have been of help

oh yeah but word of advice if you think a script isn’t launching run run_script your_script_name in the console and it’ll spit out an error if it couldn’t launch and will provide the line causing the error

[fair canopy]

there's a notepad++ extention you can add that compares two or more files

[tame steppe]

oh fr? thanks !

[tacit wind]

Does anyone know which value determines if a weapon is sellable or not in what config?

[fair canopy]

Depends on if it's been added to the blacklist or not

[tacit wind]

Sorry can you elaborate?

So someone with no modding skills like me can understand 🙂

[hexed totem]

Yo, can someone explain general concept of Anomaly modding to me?
Is it just lua scripting and calling demonized API or something more sophesticated?

No need for in depth explanation, just thoughts from people who's done it already.

[random fulcrum]

just lua

demonized is the guy that hosts the repository for the community maintained modded exes that allow for crazy shit to be done with the game

[hexed totem]

Thanks

[ashen hatch]

Currently I am fiddling with the l96 anims by Firebreath. When assigning constraints to wpn_body and applying the idle anim for example, the gun is not properly placed and the hands are clipping while in game they are fine. How can I solve this?

The only difference I've noticed compared to other animations is the presence of master_bone

[trail sundial]

It could be that this is corrected in game via item offset

[green root]

Hey all, trying to add a gun back that grok removed from the latest gamma. I don't want to override anything existing I want to leave all that alone so I made it a new item. Everything works fine, but it has no repair parts/durability. Is that in the base ltx of the weapon or does that exist elsewhere? Looking at parallel of the weapon the aug thales I have almost a 1:1 ltx, so if it's in the ltx I'm confused.

[ashen hatch]

You need mod_parts_wpnname.ltx
Look up mod_parts in mo2 and copy the folder structure plus one of the ltx.
Inside just give it the corresponding parts from a similar gun

[ashen hatch]

That shouldn't be the case, there's no item pos/rot lines the ltx

[green root]

worked, thank you.

[ashen hatch]

[green root]

Hi all, couple questions. I was going to try and make a 3dss patch for a gun, using this video as reference... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOhIR-AhXp0
Question 1: The OMF and OGF Editor he used, I think are these ones?
OGF: https://github.com/VaIeroK/OGF-tool
OMF: https://github.com/VaIeroK/Omf-Editor
Which are very old, is there a more updated one I should use?
Question 2: Are any special plugins needed for blender to modify an ogf? I haven't used blender in years and last time I did it was to modify nif files which required additional plugins.

Question 3: In the video around minute 15 he brings up the weapon editor hud, and it seems like he's scrolling/moving the gun by clicking? Whenever I've never found a way to do that in hud editor and just typed in the values manually. What am I missing?

[mortal flint]

https://github.com/PavelBlend/blender-xray ; https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/draggable-hud-editor

[naive snow]

For blender you need Pavel Blender Xray tool, you can find it by a simple google search

[woven plover]

Working on something special.. (modular branching conversations with proper PDA integration that affect real gameplay) this is just a small preview of what one type conversation can do. Im looking for anyone that's interested to help with just interesting conversations/dialogues DM me
(i've built an incredibly modular framework (explain in dm). i just need help writing immersive dialogues using my mod's preconditions/references/outcomes etc, without help, will just take me looot longer to release, also because i want to expand on the features for the mod and not just dialogues)

[mortal flint]

😳

[ashen hatch]

I have a question regarding the snd_ammo_check lines. The animation used is the unjam anim which has a corresponding sound file that works with it yet when I use the same anim for the mag check it wont play the sound. Is there more to it than simply modifying the main config?

[fair inlet]

sound definition varies based on used version of ammo check mod
one in gamma uses scripted_snd_ammo_check

[ashen hatch]

Alrighty, lemme give it a try

same thing sadly

the unjam itself works fine though

[ashen hatch]

Fixed it, it was an issue with the placement in the config

[royal flare]

heya! i'd like to alter certain weapon drop rates. just to make sure, the order of operations to do this is

• navigate to whatever mod has the weapon in GAMMA\mods\whatever_mod_here\gamedata\configs\items\settings\npc_loadouts
• edit the appropriate ltx files
• yay?
  i know it should take a bit for the changes to take effect, i mostly wanna make sure im doing it in the right place, where do i change the drop rates for the base anomaly weapons? in the weighted npc loadouts base config?

[ashen hatch]

most likely here

I could be wrong tho

[royal flare]

👍 thank you!\

[green root]

Thank you @mortal flint and @naive snow , got everything in blender and modified what i wanted. Promptly broke it but I'll keep poking at it lol

[chilly steeple]

Greetings friends, how can I create a music playlist on my PDA?

[summer girder]

!music

[queen pine]

@chilly steeple Follow this: #╭📖faq message

[tame steppe]

sorry for the late response but you need to assign the constraint to the highest bone on the hierarchy, in this case master_bone, most guides assume top bone is wpn_body because it usually is but it can be named anything

it’s useful because you can apply your own offset to the gun after by just moving the second highest bone instead of dealing with lead_gun bone

[coarse atlas]

Is there anyone getting this kind of issues when using GT Emplacement?

Expression    : <no expression>
Function      : CInifile::r_string
File          : D:\a\xray-monolith\xray-monolith\src\xrCore\Xr_ini.cpp
Line          : 1647
Description   : fatal error
Arguments     : Can't find variable hit_power in [searchlight_agr_1]

[coarse atlas]

@mortal flint You got this issue?

[mortal flint]

yeah

[mortal flint]

nevermind

nextgen engine isnt 20260315 yet

i was getting that searchlight crash and duplicate section with some base gamma mod

[coarse atlas]

Can you show me your mod list?

[coarse atlas]

OMG why does everyone has 800+ mods?

[mortal flint]

most of them arent really mine, just testing them cuz of people in support

i dont play

[coarse atlas]

Can you help me search for hit_power?
Use notepad++ File > Open Folder as Workspace to open the folder that contains all of your mods.
Right click the just opened folder and select Find in Files.

[mortal flint]

sec

[coarse atlas]

Then copy all the results and send me.

[mortal flint]

thats gonna take a while

[coarse atlas]

I can wait. I've been looking for any clue for a few days already.

[nocturne rover]

i hope i can just ask here for a minute
is this error a big deal because im losing my mind i cannot fix it

[tame steppe]

to my knowledge it doesn’t matter, does your script work normally? I think this just happens sometimes

[nocturne rover]

yea it works fine
thought its complaining about some function not being closed but nope

[tame steppe]

it’s probably fine then

[nocturne rover]

@tame steppe wanna compare horrible previous moss script to a new one lol

no im not asking for code review
but this implementation is a huge improvement in basically every way
actually used the run_script to troubleshoot, set up notepad to be able to read the scripts properly

moss_rework is the new one
im just proud of this one a tiny bit at least, like it actually gonna work like it supposed to even added a timer for a Moss buff and already fixed timer refresh

[random fulcrum]

nothing

i'd be surprised if you can find any script from a mod that bothered to add the main function

so that lua isn't weirded out

[nocturne rover]

so does that mean that every script has this "error" lol

[random fulcrum]

yeah try run_script on literally any script

even vanilla game scripts

[nocturne rover]

thats very good to know, cuz AI kept insisting that i need to add extra "end" and was upset with me about it

[tame steppe]

yeah it looks good just a small note though that save and load destroys any pending time events, though it doesnt matter too much

[nocturne rover]

i'll note that thanks

[tame steppe]

does anyone know where i can find the methods for CWeaponMagazined?

[coarse atlas]

Please send me the result when it done processing.

It's needed to identify the conflicted mod.

[jade onyx]

do you mean the c++ methods?

[tame steppe]

yeah? im not entirely sure, i just want to know which methods i can call from there, like how you can call GetFireDispersion() from CWeapon. thanks

[jade onyx]

hmm, well if you do mean the c++ stuff, check xrGame/WeaponMagazined.h, xrGame/WeaponMagazined.cpp etc in the source

[tame steppe]

oh, thats really helpful, thanks a lot!

[mortal flint]

DMed you, in case you didnt see

[jade onyx]

if you're looking for the lua exports, they'd be in gamedata/scripts/lua_help.script, though i'm not seeing anything specific to WeaponMagazined in there

[tame steppe]

yeah me neither, which is why im curious because WeaponMagazined is in there, listed as a class

[ashen hatch]

I did try applying a constraint on it the position was messed up as well. Either way in the end I somehow managed to properly do it

[tame steppe]

what constraint did you use…?

[ashen hatch]

Copy transforms

Then hand+leadgun

[tame steppe]

it should work then

[ashen hatch]

It somehow did one time

But I can't replicate it anymore

[tame steppe]

yeah it seems fine

[tame steppe]

maybe did you forget to add the idle anim to the gun before checking?

[ashen hatch]

Nah

Sorcery I tell you

[tame steppe]

lmao

[leaden glade]

is it possible to make a 3d scope for the mod that doesn't have 3dss?

[lilac ibex]

yes

[leaden glade]

how to do it? is it adding some ltx file?

[ashen hatch]

That and fiddling with the models

[leaden glade]

that means remodeling the mod?

and repacking it again

[ashen hatch]

It means going into blender and making some adjustments

If you are up for it then I can link a guide

[leaden glade]

yeah, i mean that. remodeling from blender and make the file so it can be used in the game

[leaden glade]

is it a long way to do?

[ashen hatch]

It might take a bit

Depends on your blender experience

[leaden glade]

thats the case then. i'm just started modeling a few months ago

[ashen hatch]

Well you're gonna need the xray plugin for blender for starters

It's in this channel's pins

[leaden glade]

ok, i will look everything i needed from the pin first

[ashen hatch]

#1306026800480256010 message

Then this for the guide

You can also search up Lun4t1c on youtube for a more general guide regarding blender and stuff

[leaden glade]

oh yeah. i watching this recently, not finished watching yet tho

thank you so much again, sir

[ashen hatch]

[empty swift]

hello question if for example npc loadouts ltx is responsible for the weapons that spawn on the npcs whats the equivalent ltx for outfits?

[trail sundial]

https://youtu.be/u8crq79zMfs?si=h8bRzE1qRdWZQWe0

https://youtu.be/xk_P5NZkeSw?si=IJl-d5LsRRUCg694

These 2 videos cover like 95% of what you need to know to add a 3dss scope to a gun

[misty mulch]

death_outfits.ltx

can be altered via DLTX, but in my testing you have to first delete the section then redefine it (or maybe using CSV syntax for DLTX might help, but I haven't tried it)

[empty swift]

thank you!

[misty mulch]

oh do note that it sets outfit drops by visual model, not by faction, rank, or ID directly - and the outfit spawn script can't handle probability, it can only do "this visual model drops up to two things, and those two things are 'one outfit' and 'one optional helmet'"

[leaden glade]

Oh, nice. More tutorial to make it a bit easier. Thank you, sir

[empty swift]

yeah it does have the comment in the file about the visual model but i'll keep this in mind thanks

[green root]

So on the newest gamma I have the Glock 17 burer can now take the pl15 lam, or red dots, but it cant have both. The lam is attached through scopes, is there no way for a gun to have two scopes at the same time so you can keep both on? Or would you have to use a single item and make a “kit”?

Makes me wonder how the scope attachment system works. Why not add more slots for weapon customization? I assume it’s an engine level change and not something you can easily script in.

[naive snow]

Make a kit, otherwise there might be a way to make the scoped item [wpn_glock17_burer_reddot] or whatever section you used for it, take a new list of "scopes" and add only the lam to it, make sure your new [wpn_glock17_burer_reddot_lam] section is setup, same as a weapon variant/scopped version

Might not work and it does require the order of setting up the scope on the lam version or vice versa

So decdide first on if you want the lam slapped on first or the scope first (lam might be easier if you want the weapon to accept multiple scopes)

But yeah the easiest is just to make kits

You'll have to play around with the inheritance and the various flags for section creations of weapons

[green root]

Hmm… yeah I was just wondering how does the game know that when I attach “pl15_lam” to switch from [wpn_glock17_burer] to [wpn_glock17_burer_lam]?

Maybe I’m blind, I just don’t see the association in the ltx.

[naive snow]

Because you made a section named so?

It just appends the scope name I believe, the one that's in the scope= parameter

[misty mulch]

function attach_scope from item_weapon.script and yes it works exactly as Burn is describing. excerpted:

    -- An addon has already been attached or none can be used.
    local parent_section = ini_sys:r_string_ex(weapon:section(),"parent_section")
    if (not parent_section or weapon:section() ~= parent_section) then return end
    
    -- Modified weapon does not exist and as such can't be used.
    local child_section = (parent_section .. "_" .. item:section())
    if not (ini_sys:section_exist(child_section)) then return end
    
    -- Determine whether the addon is valid for the weapon selected.
    if not (check_scope(item:section(), weapon:section())) then
        return
    end

when you attach a scope it actually creates a new item (the 'scoped version' of the gun) via alife_clone_weapon

[green root]

In an uber so I can’t look now, maybe I’m forgetting something but as far as I know you just list the scopes in the main object
So…
Scopes = scope1, scope 2, etc…

Then you have all the variants below. My guess has always been that it just goes in order? So first one under is associated to scope1, etc…

Yeah it actually replaces it as a new object. Found that out when I didn’t make the main object a parent section, all individual guns showed up in debugger.

[naive snow]

Yeah so you basically want your Lam version to be it's own Parent, so it can take it's selection of scopes

[green root]

Okay so put scopes under the “lam” version, then those can be attached too.

Would be lengthy way to make a full weapon customization.

[naive snow]

It's a cascading spiral of shit, the more possibility the more number of branches

[green root]

But I’d have to make separate sections per combination. Yeah sounds like it.

[naive snow]

And you're locked to the order of operation

[misty mulch]

presumably you would also need to double this work (the tree would go)

Glock 17 Burer
    |- G17 with LAM
        |- G17 with LAM + red dot scope "N"
    |- G17 with red dot scope "N"
        |- G17 with red dot scope "N" + LAM

repeat N number of times for each type of red dot you want to support

[naive snow]

You could also look to MAS or wait on the scripted attachment scripts which is basically what you'll want

[misty mulch]

and now you know why people don't often make new attachments for guns

[naive snow]

1.6

[misty mulch]

because imagine multiplying this for every single possible permutation of gun + scope + attachment

[tame steppe]

if im not wrong setting it as its own parent makes it unremovable

because it doesnt have a parent to go back to

[green root]

So you’d need to do something like…
Weapon parent
Scope = scope1, scope2, lam

Weapon_scope1

Weapon_scope2

Weapon_lam
Scope = scope1, scope2

Weapon_lam_scope1

Etc…

[green root]

Yeah I found this online, and it looks super promising… just yeah, not ready yet 😭

[tame steppe]

scripted attachments

[green root]

So once I’d make the weapon_lam like I have outlined above the laser can’t come off? I mean I guess that’s okay. Just a pain.

[tame steppe]

yeah but then youd have to make them non removable

[tame steppe]

im pretty sure... unless theres a cool workaround

[naive snow]

You could also simply make a number of kits and have the lam as a standalone scope

[green root]

I noticed that too with some of the weapons, like the lebedev pistol once you put the rmr/lam kit on it can’t come off.

[green root]

This might be the way. I really only intend to support two scopes myself, eotech and a specter, so the modifications are minimal.

So I’d have a lam, individual scopes, then the kit scopes.

[tame steppe]

thats a funny thing

[green root]

Thanks for all the info. Has to wait until I’m back from a work trip anyway but at least now I have an idea how it works.

[tame steppe]

separate weapons with different sights with a laser as a scope

[green root]

I mean it’s our one and only attachment point lol

Suppressors are another thing I don’t understand other then it’s technically always part of the model just hidden.

[tame steppe]

theyre just hidden by the engine by hiding its bone

similar to the grenade launcher

scripts can actually hide bones on command

which is a pretty cool thing

[naive snow]

The suppressor just unhides the bone, then it simply points to play the right section for sounds. The damage is handled in grok_bo and I believe the rest of the modifiers are also done script side

[green root]

I reworked the grok_bo script but yeah it handles the damage multiplier, and then the suppressor can have additional multipliers for recoil and such but I’m 99% certain those aren’t in the Bo script they live elsewhere.

Though I could’ve overlooked them.
Can the scopes have similar modifiers? On a suppressor if you put
Cam_dispersion_k = 0.9 that 0.9 is now a multiplier. Can that be part of a scope? I guess not since a scope doesn’t have an independent config it just points to a different weapon so you’d just have to modify the stat per weapon.

[naive snow]

With MaS you could probably make them act as a modifier.
Currently, you'd have to manually punch in that modifier as hard stats instead

[tame steppe]

im not exactly sure but i think you can just do that

scopes are separate sections

99% of the time they just inherit from the parent except for model stuff and 3dss configs

yeah you can i just tested this

[naive snow]

You could also just make a script for it, use the weapon's suffix to check against a master list of scope names, then if found, just modify the weapon stats according to your list of profiles

[tame steppe]

also very true

[naive snow]

So it works accros all weapons, rather than manually punching in hard values per-weapon section

[tame steppe]

if you so desire 🙂‍↕️

[misty mulch]

weapon_silencers.ltx see #1261788890327683134 message

the "reduced NPC detection radius" is implemented via comments on suppressed weapon audio files so fuck that

[green root]

Well if adding the multiplier modifier to each individual weapon works, that’s easier than mathing out each stat. I mean I made a calculator for it but it would be less typing lol.

[misty mulch]

but the other silencer stat changes are in weapon_silencers.ltx as mentioned

[green root]

Yeah I have a modified version of that changing most of those.

I was wondering if those can be applied to scopes.

Verdatim said the multiplier stat worked. so that could make it easier making custom recoil profiles per weapon attachment instead of having to math out each stat.

But a modular attachment system would make all this so much easier 👀

[tame steppe]

wait i thought you meant attaching a scope to a weapon and having that specific weapon and scope combination have separate stats

[green root]

Ah yes I know I can do that, I was hoping the multipliers would work though. If not no big deal.

I balanced all the guns based on visual attachments, was a pain but required each to have custom stats per section unless the overall attachments don’t change. Thankfully most guns they don’t.

When we get that modular attachment system soonTM, I hope it makes doing all those custom stats much easier…

[tame steppe]

visual attachments? as in scopes and stuff? what are you trying to achieve?

[green root]

Basically i base lined weapons off a non-modified gun. For example the m4a1 from Siber is my base 5.56 gun, and got my base stats I came up with for a 5.56 AR.
Then I have a bunch of modifiers, such as muzzle device, barrel length, afg/vfg, etc… with tiers as well.

Then referencing the actual visual model I applied the custom recoil stats it produced. So the m4_tac has a vert grip and a flash hider.

Was a per gun thing, and would’ve been so much easier with an attachment system

Made a spreadsheet to build them out so I didn’t have to math each one.

[tame steppe]

unfortunately even with MAS (assuming it allows for this stuff) i dont think itll help too much because most attachments are baked in anyway

[green root]

Yeah depending on how the model is made, sometimes you can separate the attachment, sometimes it’s part of the base mesh.

Would require a lot of mesh edits to make this fully viable.

[tame steppe]

you could make a script though and put some stuff in a table like 'guns with vgrips' = { } or 'guns with muzzle_attachments' = { } and be able to do math with them very easily

though still its a lot of work

[summer stream]

grips would require animations

and they..differ

the easier thing to do
is the barrel
even though it would require work on the model side

[tame steppe]

procedural animations? magic buzzword

[green root]

Well if mas adds grips as an attachment the animation will have to change somehow.

[summer stream]

not for stalker, no

[tame steppe]

i see it as unlikely with the way things work now with the engine

[green root]

Well if not then it’ll be spreadsheet calculations for all. I already did all the current gamma weapons so unless there is a drastic change it’s all good.

[obtuse depot]

Hi guys, just want to ask is it possible to modify detectors' hud position in vanilla anomaly by using draggable hud editor?

[glacial roost]

Hi, I discovered an unmodified GAMMA feature that uses game settings to bind keys for a quick melee function, and I want to add this functionality to my anomaly. Could anyone explain how this feature is implemented?

[timber bluff]

s there a mod that requires bringing back the patch of the stalker that you contract killed? to complete the task

[random fulcrum]

you now understand first hand why people make fun of ai users

[sudden inlet]

Theoretically, you should copy this folder from gamma and install it as mod for your anomaly instance https://github.com/Grokitach/Stalker_GAMMA/tree/main/G.A.M.M.A/modpack_addons/Teivaz Gunslinger Knives Quick Melee

[hoary cipher]

Another good way to see is search your script in the log it will show it loaded or didn't and if it's an issue like an "end" or lack thereof it will say exactly which function the end was missing from

Or where there was to many

[naive snow]

Another useful trick, just use the [+] to collapse in any IDE, they usually add function and start/end syntax highlighting for ( ) or if/end

[simple scaffold]

this checker is dumb enough that it doesn't get confused by anything in stalker scripts. https://fptje.github.io/glualint-web/

[green root]

Visual studio code can also recognize code language. Whenever I open a script for this game I set it to lua. Makes it fairly clear what function block is what and like burn said if you collapse it and something that shouldn’t collapse does you’re missing something.

[nocturne rover]

this is fantastic utility
thank you very much
it gives a very good understanding of all small errors as well

[nocturne rover]

yep, actually insanely huge

[granite badger]

how does one do versioning? Like, 1.0, 1.0.1 and all that?

[dark shore]

Lol

[random fulcrum]

is "watch your profanity" for scripted hit being shortened to shit

[granite badger]

that i know, but i mean, for use with stalker. Like, do i need a file or anything?

[random fulcrum]

???

[granite badger]

do i just have the zip as mod_1.0.zip or i have a file in the file? Like a "info" like some games use?

[random fulcrum]

quede igual

[granite badger]

?

[random fulcrum]

same

[granite badger]

and what MO2 likes? So updating is easier

[random fulcrum]

mo2 names the folder as whatever the zip is called up to the first number on its filename

you seem to want to create fomods

those are the fancy installer prompts some mods use in mo2

and make mo2 give proper names to the mod folder and add the version number in the interface

[nocturne rover]

yea lmao

[granite badger]

Right, so if i name the mod mod_1.0.zip it will be in the install, mod__ ?

(had to put double _ because discord)

So i could name it mod 1.0.0.zip and a hotfix, mod 1.0.1.zip and in MO it will be just be mod?

[random fulcrum]

yes

[granite badger]

ah, thanks

[simple scaffold]

If you plan on using Lua to do version number checking semver 1.0 works better with Lua pattern matching than 2.0 or other newer systems.

https://semver.org/spec/v1.0.0.html

[simple scaffold]

I use notepad++ for editing and that checker for syntax. You can actually be a "real" modder without setting up any kind of IDE

[nocturne rover]

notepad++ is very easy to read with LUA language selected

[steep cipher]

is there a mod that includes all of frosty's weapons?

[fair canopy]

Frostys weapon pack

[glacial roost]

I'll try. Thank you for reply.

[glacial roost]

Got it. Put this addon in anomaly and add a key bind(custom24) in user.ltx and everyting works fine. Thank you very much!

[frank tendon]

What language do stalker mods use?

[jade onyx]

lua and bits of xml and a kinda-sorta ini format

[nocturne rover]

im struggling with BHS a bit
i wrote the healing logic to ONLY pick the undamaged limb to heal - condition being - on a kill
but it doesn't consider whether its temp yellow hp or while limb hp

like what do i even link or ask i dont want to make people review my entire code
i know only healing logic is the issue and i know which part

trying to streamline the script, the previous script for Sandstone that did that function specified each limb individually instead

[fading karma]

has anybody considered modifying the ECHO1 model by putting a ROMEO1 backup sight on top or changing the alternate view to use the backup irons? by default the backup sight is just canting the gun

[trail sundial]

You can achieve this in a few minutes of blender if you want to

And a small ltx edit for the new alt aim position

[fading karma]

i wish i could, but i have basically zero familiarity with blender and ltx editing lol

[trail sundial]

It's not too hard to learn

https://youtu.be/u8crq79zMfs?si=bHIjp8-_yZef904F

[fading karma]

i'll take a look at it

[fading karma]

this is really helpful, but i was considering making a completely new item rather than just adding an existing sight to a gun that doesn't have it. is there any content you know of about adding new items (scopes)?

thinking of making a weapon sight kit like the leupold + rmr combo box but with the ECHO1 and RMR

[trail sundial]

I haven't done it myself, but I think you just need to make a new item for your new scope.

[fading karma]

and then there's the question of changing the alternate sight picture from being canted to being straight

[trail sundial]

To make it not canted just change the 3rd value of alt rotation to 0

[final nebula]

any tutorial on importing outfit models to STALKER Anomaly

?

[leaden glade]

hello, umm. what is the addon to edit/ make a animation in blender?

i forgot that i've seen it somewhere

[tame steppe]

animation is baked into blender

[leaden glade]

so i don't need any plugin/addon again?

[tame steppe]

for importing / exporting to stalker file formats you do need an addon

but animation by itself is a part of blender

[leaden glade]

i only have the addon that can open ogf and other xray files

[tame steppe]

oh that’s enough then

do you know basic animating in blender?

If not then this #╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

[leaden glade]

not yet

[tame steppe]

bit old but the info is mostly good

[leaden glade]

i just want to try adding some animation to a mod that already have some

[leaden glade]

oh, thank you. i will look for it

[tame steppe]

oof that’s tough you want to make a new anim? you should use the IK rig unless it’s some small edits

[leaden glade]

oh yeah. this is what i watching right now. the other tutorial says that i need some rig plugin

[nocturne rover]

i now fully understand what making spaghetti code means

crash references a function into another script which requires a third function into another script

[leaden glade]

just adding some magcheck animation for the gun that doesn't have it. it's just the same gun btw

[nocturne rover]

i just hope adding an empty function will make those other function to fuck off

it did.

[tame steppe]

just our usual _g.script sending callbacks and making stack traces 🥰

[tame steppe]

oh god thats not going to be easy unless the two anim sets are very similar

[nocturne rover]

i don't even know what im doing 90% of the time
well, Sandstone rework just needs actual testing

[leaden glade]

it's yukiz scar actually. it have one variant that doesn't have the anim. is it possible adding it from the other variant?

[tame steppe]

for similar weapons? definitely... but it requires some know how

[leaden glade]

yes. both are scar l variant. the difference is only attachment on the gun model

[tame steppe]

are the animations the exact same? aside from missing mag check

[leaden glade]

i think, yes. i'm not sure actually

so, it will be easier if they are both same?

[tame steppe]

yes, extremely easy

[leaden glade]

oh, ok. i think i will try it a bit to see how it work

thank you for the advice, sir

[tame steppe]

no worries

[brave kernel]

Is there an easy way to merge loot pools from certain mods or would I have to manually edit everything?

[naive snow]

You mean the items dropped on death? Or the overworld item spawns?

[brave kernel]

Dropped on death/In stashes

[naive snow]

They're different systems. You could simply throw both files to an AI and describe what you'd like to retain drom each and ask for a merge

[brave kernel]

Ah. I think there's also a program I used before that merges txt code files too so I could just use that

You know which files those would be?

[naive snow]

Death_generic handles the list of mundane items, like meds, foods, etc
Death_Outfits is for the outfits.
Death_items handles who drops what from the Death_generic list

[brave kernel]

Thank you 🙏

[naive snow]

For stashes, it's a different system altogether that uses a Tier list list, grok_items_tier and the treasure manager, grok_treasure_manager

There might be some modifications required to the treasure_manager itself too

[brave kernel]

Ahh, that's a lot of stuff to edit
I wanna edit em cause stuff that I should not be getting early on keeps spawning in and I feel like it ruins the progression. Might be a while til I do then

[naive snow]

Yeah depends on how many items you're looking to add.
It's mostly, add their section names to both death_generic and the tier list, then just configure who drops them and how frequent they appear in golden/white stash via the death_items and the treasure manager

[misty mulch]

note that the root file for death_outfits.ltx is death_generic which is the actual root you'd have to target for a DLTX file, see my prior statements re: death_outfits oddities (need to delete + recreate edited sections instead of using regular "edit this section" syntax, no 'chance to drop' handling)

[misty mulch]

stashes work on a "tier" system (for both white and yellow stashes), and different maps have different chances to contain stash tiers. for a behind the scenes peek at how it works for yellow stashes, here's the spreadsheet that the !tools command partially shows https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ax3D-ZtRFGKXoQ-RqAY_ycv6wj5wRKGERsUoSq3qR8U/edit?gid=1328695974#gid=1328695974

e.g. the possible rare stash tiers for l02_garbage are 12222233, which translates to:

• 1/8 chance of tier 1 rare stash
• 5/8 chance for tier 2 rare stash
• 2/8 chance for tier 3 rare stash
  tool tier chance table on the right shows the types of tools that can drop, per rare stash tier type (e.g. tier 1 has a 50% chance of containing drug or ammo kit)

now this is exponentially more difficult for white stashes because the possible table for "shit in a white stash" is much greater than if you only look at "which stashes will drop toolkits"

but that's how they work, in a nutshell.

[misty mulch]

also yeah "outfits dropped on death" works differently to "weapons dropped on death" which is different to "items dropped on death"

anyway that should be enough of a headache for you

the neat thing about it is that, theoretically, if your mods use DLTX to add items to these various configs, they are already merged

(not for stashes because grok renames the configs that the script uses but for the other stuff)

[mental vale]

@weary root Does truncating mipmap levels cause sub-pixel aliasing?

[brave kernel]

Ahhh, gotcha
Then I guess I won't have to merge em. Just gotta edit drop chances. Ty!

[misty mulch]

to be clear, it will help if you give more details about what exactly you're trying to edit - as I said, for some things like outfit drops, you can't meaningfully change "drop chances"

[weary root]

yes but that also depends what mip filter, alpha threshold you use and if you use dither, also flora use square/rectangular planes and using last few mips will look bad at distance since there’s no detail which isn’t problem except not enough pixels to keep proper alpha cutout and 2x2 or 4x4 pixels stretched over big 2x1m or 1x1 m planes looks bad imo

[mental vale]

Thanks, I'm trying to gauge if I should reimplement the mip level feature into the bump generator.

Is 8x8 your preferred cutoff point or is it even higher?

[weary root]

8x8 is enough imo no point cutting it higher, 4x4 can look good on some meshes too pines or spruces iirc

[last swallow]

What is the default texture name for the right click context menu bg?

[last swallow]

trying to drop a mod, but cannot find the proper texture 😄

[mental vale]

Cheers, mate.

[tacit wind]

So when using draggable hud editor and adjusting aim position for weapons for example whenever I change a value it reverts back to the old value and is stuck there visually until I restart testlevel which is really annoying and time consuming. Does anyone know if there is a way to fix that so I can properly test out aim positions without restarting the level all the time?

Like I can change a position and it will change as I change values and I can save it but once I close it, it will revert to the previous values and don't change back whatsoever. I hope it makes sense what I mean

The weapon model position

[timber scaffold]

i have a mod idea

[lilac ibex]

me too

[timber scaffold]

to make so that you could drag and drop lasers grips and pitcanny sights instead of kits if not every weapon should have a kit

[misty mulch]

please read this previous conversation #╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

substitute "red dot sight" with "literally any scope for that gun"

think about how badly you want to do this for, say, a gun that takes 8 scopes, now recognize that gamma spans ~180 guns

now think again how badly you want to do that for 180 * 8 gun and scope combos (i'm being very conservative), for every type of attachment.

[tacit wind]

For anyone interested, it works again after switching to 3rd person and back!

[timber scaffold]

not all

all the weapons that are sutibale for example the M4A1 it has not kits

and i feel like it should

which one should i use

sry wrong channle

[worthy mortar]

Random idea
Would it be possible to make the weapon blurred/transparent while aiming?

Like, currently aiming looks like you close one eye and look down the ironsight, scope or whatever eotech device you have on it
But realistically you aim with both eyes open.
This makes the target in front of you both clearly visible and aligned with the ironsight/reticle

[random fulcrum]

crank weapon dof to comical values, maybe even above the cap

[fading karma]

anybody have any video tutorials on how to add a new item to the game?

[lilac ibex]

yes

[naive snow]

I don't believe there's any. It's really dependent on what type of item you're trying to add

[fading karma]

i want to make a combo scope/red dot package like the acog/rmr etc. for the echo1 and rmr or romeo

[naive snow]

For which gun?

[fading karma]

ks-12

[naive snow]

Have you made the hud models for them?

[fading karma]

nah, i haven't done anything yet. i've never made a mod before

[naive snow]

Then your first step would be to learn how to use blender to add the scopes to the weapon first

[fading karma]

oh, yeah i saw a video on that

[hazy forum]

!sleep

[queen pine]

@hazy forum
DON'T TOUCH Sleep deprivation IN SETTINGS.

• If you want to sleep WHENEVER you want

Follow this instruction : #╭📖faq message

• If you want to sleep WHEREVER you want

Install this mod (type !ctrlm in #🤖bot-commands to learn how to install mods).

Second method unlocks sleeping whenever you want as well without additional actions.

[devout fiber]

Hey is there a script in Hideout Furniture that let lights and lamp go on forever without battery change?

[nocturne rover]

is there a better way to verify that Player stopped moving than calculating coordinates?
specifically making a function that plays when Player starts moving and then checks if Player not moving anymore

[nocturne rover]

trying to make it so i can double-tap to sprint continuously but still have a function of "Holding Shift to Sprint" for combat engagements
as of now its done by toggling the sprint on and off by checking whether coordinates align so it doensn't return nil

Im frankly just afraid that it might lead to a crash or something, can anyone test this out?
(only works as intended if you use Shift for sprinting)

[granite badger]

this would be amazing. especially as a lot of npc buildings are very badly lighten up

[devout fiber]

The added concept of powering lights with battery is silly

[upper ridge]

help me pls, im trying to do something with ui, rn im changing load screens and i cant understand what defines the size of preview image for location (cordon and etc, on this screen i replaced image for some random photo i found), and how can i change space that images takes on screen

so im trying to do modern load menu and i hate that preview for locations is so small

i didnt find any configs for this in folders so i cant guess how to edit this

[tame steppe]

“IsMoveState(actor_move_states.mcAnyMove) for example only returns true if player pressed any WASD key” from Lucy in anomaly discord, IsMoveState can also check if the player is sprinting by putting “mcSprint” inside as one of the arguments iirc

the above might be wrong btw if so you should try IsMoveState(“mcAnyMove”), either way its a function from _g.script so you should search there just in case

[tame steppe]

also how do you calculate player position anyway? I’m curious

[nocturne rover]

check the script its in the folder
#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

it seemed to be working pretty well so far
i'd just rather not use the coords

[tame steppe]

I’m not at my pc at the moment lol

do you just use a function from lua_help / _g?

[nocturne rover]

here's a full script

[tame steppe]

oh I see alright thanks

[nocturne rover]

its so bizarre any possible call for move state returns as nil
i just don't have enough experience to understand it

but maybe using coordinates isn't that bad to begin with? i thought it would make script heavy but it doesn't seem like it does

[tame steppe]

the function just compares the current move state to the move state you give in the argument

coordinates might be fine I don’t know they’re both ways to do this

[nocturne rover]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1483700312039751711
i implemented MCM settings into it (first time doing so) and changed the dist to dist_sqr

someone told me it does same thing as Keywrapper (after i posted it already) so thats awkward
thanks for basically telling me its not a bad method, i was afraid that it was

[tame steppe]

okay cool

[rotund lotus]

are there any modders out here making the xrail shotgun

[tame steppe]

Just searched it up and what the hell

[rotund lotus]

ikr

so cool

[tame steppe]

tbh most people here don’t model because it’s really time consuming (same for animation) so unless there’s a model online I really doubt anyone is working on it

[tame steppe]

it’s pretty cool but

honestly I’d love to script the rotating magazine but no models

[earnest furnace]

It is possible switch to dev2 branch in gamma launcher? Just for my personal modding 🙂

[lilac ibex]

long time no see

[earnest furnace]

Oh hello old friend

[naive snow]

Not unless you're part of the testers

[earnest furnace]

I see. That was i though. Ok!

[balmy grotto]

This was helpful over a year later. I'm running GFY and LASS and I changed Krolik/Rabbit to Faust and Cleric to Strider.

[misty mulch]

even better, i have a guide for selective XML node overwrites without DXML https://github.com/veerserif/gamma-dashboard/blob/main/xml_overwrites.md

[balmy grotto]

Oh Shit. Thank you. That's even better!

So just to make sure I'm doing it right, a naming like z_st_characters.xml should work?

Got the Override XML working. Thank you. 🙂

[warm forum]

which stat in here is the Handling stat ?

[tame steppe]

handling (in the stat card; out of 1) is the result of this formula
(normalize(PDM_disp_base, 2.1, 0) + normalize(control_inertion_factor, 3, 1))/2 end

if you want to use a script that takes into account handling in the stat card just call utils_ui.prop_handling and hand it the wpn and wpn section

[tame steppe]

normalize just finds what the value is out of 1 using the max and min numbers provided in the arguments, here it is '2.1 and 0' for PDM_disp_base and '3 and 1' for control_inertion_factor

so 2 for control inertion factor results in 0.5 for the normalize function for e.g.

[warm forum]

🤔

[tame steppe]

do you get it?

[warm forum]

no 🙁

[warm forum]

now i got the math

85% 👍

[tame steppe]

cool

[warm forum]

i would do a quick test , how much handling should each weapon type have?