╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[lament garnet]

do I have to do something different when it uses an mcm menu?

[lament garnet]

so I got it to work but am I supposed to do original_script.variable_name for all variables or is this bad?

[tawny prawn]

Is there a way to make a re-skin ''theme'' for GAMMA Style MO2?

There are different themes for it and even a Skyrim one

I bet its possible I just dont know how, if anybody has any clues, ideas, recommendations I would greatly appreciate it since I would like to make one for GAMMA

[misty mulch]

i think that's more a question for MO2 discord no? i'd also look in the themes folder and look at the files there to get an idea of how to make it

[tawny prawn]

i did find the files

they are qss

im using notepad++

the hard part if figuring out what are the lines responsible for changing the background image and all that i waant to change

and then figuring out the scale and resolution

idk if these are THE ''background''

[tawny prawn]

i didnt know they had a discord

ty

their discord sucks maaaasive schlongus

used the world stalker

as in stalker gamma

got imidiately timed out

there is no general chat

and discord is full of crypto bot accounts

🙂

https://tenor.com/view/no-noooo-british-cop-screaming-no-despair-crying-gif-14408871079120163442

[sonic bolt]

Asked in Modded support and got no response, but is there any way to fix the jam animations not working?

[white warren]

Did you modify the files at all? Or is that base sedz Barrett

[sonic bolt]

Base Sedz barrett, I have universal anims

[white warren]

Something might be conflicting not 100% sure though that’s weird tho

[sonic bolt]

Well I hope that's the case

[teal compass]

u have a conflicting hand animation for sure

idk which but u might have another mod which have m82 hand anims and they get overriden for something

[sonic bolt]

where's my I LOVE DEBUGGING GAMMA reaction image

Base Gamma with zero addons still has the issue

Does anyone else experience it?

[teal compass]

show what animation it uses in config

[celest forge]

1000% a conflict in hands anims

[teal compass]

thats what I said

[lilac idol]

you can also check if the animation itself is broken by importing the hand anim and applying a copy transforms from wpn_body to lead_gun

[celest forge]

Really hard to diagnose accurately because it could be an omf with a random ass name

[teal compass]

doesnt it load on alphebetic order

[sonic bolt]

I think I found the culprit

[celest forge]

That could be it

[teal compass]

ok disable that and see

I mean that omf not whole mod

[lilac idol]

well no the hand anim is the issue

[teal compass]

oh wait that is hud animation

[celest forge]

Yeah but you could have an omf file that was named wpn_peepepoopooshitcaca_hands_hud_animation which has m82 anims in it

[teal compass]

yeah that's painful to find

[tawny prawn]

ok guys n galz

I DID IT

i started making a GAMMA themed MO2

😄

will release on moddb probably and in mods posting

once its done

[sonic bolt]

Still aint it

[tawny prawn]

lmk what you think

[tawny prawn]

better than no gamma theme wdym xd

i can make different ones

for like inverno

[sonic bolt]

I'm talkin about my M82 issue

[tawny prawn]

autumn

oh sorry

xd

[sonic bolt]

but my eyes still do hurt

[tawny prawn]

I darkened the image about to apply change now

gimme a sec

[teal compass]

yeah I think that background is too bright

[sonic bolt]

I think the green Gamma's backgrounds in general just hurts my eyes

[tawny prawn]

better?

this is how it is when you hover over things

you get that black bckgrouind

[teal compass]

works

[sonic bolt]

RAHHHHHHHHHHH THE CULPRIT WAS AN M82 MISFIRE ANIM FROM THE RELOAD TIMING FIX

[teal compass]

lol

[sonic bolt]

now I gotta fix this weird issue with most of my guns having desynced mag check sounds

[tawny prawn]

variant 2

in progress

reworked variant 1

[dusky cave]

interesting. Where can I find the number of IDs I have when loading the game? in console?

[misty mulch]

Yes in console. Or in the log file

[tawny prawn]

variant 3

[sour salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/horny-horny-meter-super-horny-gif-17623996

Can’t wait

[manic heron]

Best one so far

[tawny prawn]

IKR

this is the one

[flat aurora]

wish there was still a way to get ahold of azetrix's model merge, wanted to use some of the ogf files and textures for a project

the true M40 gasmask will forever be lost now :((

pinked

[flat aurora]

WAIT I FOUND THE TEXTURES

[simple siren]

Hi. I create a new rifle based on the AK74 PMC with the same LTX setting, meshes, and animation. The problem is the AKU15 2012 ads animation is different from the AK74 PMC ads animation in gameplay. My assumption is the AK74 PMC ads animation is overwritten somewhere, just like the AK104 Alfa animation overwritten by adding 3DSS from
"anm_shots = wpn_hand_ak_tact_shoot, wpn_ak_tact_shoot"
into
"anm_shots = wpn_hand_ak_tact_shoot_3dss, wpn_ak_tact_shoot"
So can anyone help me with how to make AKU15 2012 punishing ADS look like AK74 PMC proper ADS via LTX?

[teal compass]

search for any existence of ak74_pmc_hud in dltx files is my guess

[simple siren]

I tried in MO filter, I cant find it.

[teal compass]

no not like that

use notepad+ file search method

[calm kernel]

I get this error on trying to access the craft menu. It appeared after I added new category to the craft menu. How to solve this issue? What should I change in that .script file?

[drifting moat]

Looks cool

[drifting moat]

How does one add a new category?

I'm guessing you didn't set a variable

[dreamy vector]

guys aydin grass or c-con grass (performance wise)

[main plover]

any idea why cache.dbg doesnt save stuff from hud editor?

[calm kernel]

I decided to clean up the furniture crafting. I don't like that there's only 2 categories and it's pile of stuff shoved together in one place. So I wanted to make it 4 or even 5 different categories with specific items inside.

1. I created ui_st_furniture_new_categories.xml file both in rus and eng localization folders. I have proper <string_table>'s in there with names of categories.
2. I created mod_craft_add_new_furniture_categories.ltx file in ...\settings folder that defines all those categories. Example :

title = st_ui_craft_furniture_main```

3. I added the craft recipes with all those categories titled in `craft.ltx`. 
4. And, ofc, I commented out all other crafts and categories of furniture in other furniture .ltx files that might have overlap or conflict with my changes.

But I miss smth. `workshop_autoinject.script` is just crashing my game to desktop when I summon the workshop menu.

[calm kernel]

@misty mulch Hello! I'm pretty sure you know how to add custom crafting categories. Could you help me, please? I tried everything. My knowledge is not enough...

[pure venture]

how do i increase the recoil control stat of a gun thorugh configs?

[misty mulch]

Since your category is being added by a DLTX file (step 2), your craft additions (step 3) must also be done via DLTX.

Look at my mod for how I added a ninth category for "Decorations":

• First, I had to make a DLTX file to add the category, which must load first (note syntax, you're missing square brackets [ ] )
• Then, in a DLTX file, you can remove recipes from their existing category, and then re-add them to your new category

Note that the category numbers, as far as I know, must be sequential and unique. To make it compatible with current GAMMA, as it uses a variant of my mod, you'd have to start your new category at [10].

[misty mulch]

You technically don't have to comment out other LTX files that handle crafting, you only have to make sure yours loads last after them. Files load alphabetically.

[misty mulch]

Complicated q because there's a separate modded system handling recoil camera effects, separate to the cross hair climb. Your best shot is to learn how to make a DLTX override (basically necessary for any weapon stat modding), then refer to the Anomaly modding guide to see which parameters to change (pinned)

[misty mulch]

Also the entire point of using DLTX is to use unique filenames so you don't have to directly override files, which is a compatibility nightmare. Don't just directly copy the EXACT filename of the configs in my mod.

[calm kernel]

Hmm... I still can't make it work. Maybe this is because I'm actually doing a bit more than just moving all hideout things to new categories. I'm also making some of them not obtainable via craft. Only trade. So in this case I think I really need to comment out other crafts, right? Or maybe I'm wrong?

But anyway, right now I have this setup :

1. ui_st_furniture_new_categories.xml with category defines inside

title = st_ui_craft_furniture_main

@[9]
title = st_ui_craft_furniture_containers

@[10]
title = st_ui_craft_furniture_light

@[11]
title = st_ui_craft_furniture_decor```

2. `mod_craft_z_new_furniture_crafting.ltx` with actual crafting recipes in it.

```![8]
title   = st_ui_craft_furniture_main

;------ [T0]

x_prop_bed_1                        = 1, recipe_basic_0, itm_sleepbag,1, beadspread,1, prt_i_scrap,2, prt_i_wood,2
x_prop_clock_1                      = 1, recipe_basic_0, prt_i_scrap,1, prt_i_copper,1
x_decor_radiola                     = 1, recipe_basic_0, radio,1, prt_i_copper,2, prt_i_transistors,1, prt_i_resistors,2
x_radio_item                        = 1, recipe_basic_0, radio,1, prt_i_copper,2, prt_i_transistors,1, prt_i_resistors,2
x_radio_item                        = 1, recipe_basic_0, radio2,1, prt_i_copper,2, prt_i_transistors,1, prt_i_resistors,2

;--- t1-t2-t3 groups ---

![9]
title   = st_ui_craft_furniture_containers

;------ [T0]

x_weapon_rack_item                  = 1, recipe_basic_0, prt_i_scrap,10, prt_i_wood,12
x_pistol_shelf_item                 = 1, recipe_basic_0, prt_i_scrap,6, prt_i_wood,8
x_sumka6_item                       = 1, recipe_basic_0, sewing_thread,1, prt_o_fabrics_1,1, prt_o_fabrics_2,1 ,prt_o_fabrics_3,1
x_decor_box_paper                   = 1, recipe_basic_0, prt_i_paper,3,prt_i_wood,1

;--- t1-t2-t3 groups --- ```

Same thing goes for the rest of categories.

3. And I also have other DLTX files that contains crafting recipes with commented out code lines

But when I double click on basic tools, I get this error

I think I know how to just move recipes to new categories properly, but if I need also to remove some of them entirely from the existence - I have no idea. GAMMA modding is owning me right now

Or maybe I'm just too stoopid and this is ez task af actually 😄

[maiden ledge]

how do i make a normal image into a portrate?

want this coze tis funny

[slow bolt]

open every mod with guns and look at the configs

[summer stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1119963939023900794/1259756840523137024/PFPTemplate.7z?ex=69196dfb&is=69181c7b&hm=5ccbea18ffe9209f712b67b4acbfdce213d0d2386ff7e1caf2f17e652bc989bb&
get this
open up photopea
replace green box with that picture
no data image is now your picture

[maiden ledge]

thanks

[calm kernel]

Okay. Blyat

I'm such a noob

Cyka

@misty mulch My apologies for bothering you, my friend. I made few mistakes during copy-paste recipes and lost some variables. Because of that, ofc, it was crashing. O.M.G. 😄

I can't even name it rookie mistake. This is tushkano mistake

[naive snow]

!MO2search

[queen pine]

@regal bolt Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

[polar oasis]

Does anyone know where I can find wpn_val_ps01?

Or what folder or file that has it

[polar oasis]

lol so my bug crash has to be from one of those

[loud bone]

So it turns out the Base Kar98K is 3DSS….but for some reason my GAMMA just says nope, even with a normal install and uses the shitty 2dss version. Anyone have a fix? Cause the 278 - Remodel and Reanimation doesn’t load even when the files are configured correctly?

^ is 3DSS cause of the reanimation etc and has built in 3DSS support with 3DSS for GAMMA.

Game crashes due to hud ogf issues.

[drifting moat]

Maybe it was disabled because of issues

[misty mulch]

For 1:

• You cannot use DLTX syntax in an XML file. You should be doing this in a file mod_craft_*.ltx where * is "whatever you want it to be".
• You cannot use @[8] or @[9] ("create section") because these two already exist. You have to do ![8] and ![9] to alter these sections.
• You haven't shown your actual XML file string nodes, so, no comment there.

For 2:

• Because in your first file, you have already defined the title parameter for each section, you do not need to re-define title (as in, remove the title = whatever lines
• Rest is fine but without actually seeing your files and filepaths, I can't go over everything

[sacred token]

Erm actually @ is used to override or create the section

[misty mulch]

yeah except it doesn't seem to work great when handling already existing sections IME with this exact example

also really the main thing is putting dltx syntax in an xml file

[sacred token]

Yeah no, it is just for info

[teal compass]

yeah I tried @ before but it dont work properlly most of time

[fair canopy]

@ is very finicky. I was just trying to make it work for something

I think you might be better off deleting the section with !! And then redefining it

[teal compass]

yeah that might be better

[lone jungle]

Heya, so I started playing few weeks back with rookie settings, now I feel like it’s not as challenging as I want it to be. I played with npc aim and spread buttons. But how do I change damage being done to me? I searched discord and it should be done through script, I managed to find some scripts but idk what to change to make the game harder - my character armor / damage done to me higher

[naive snow]

You could open up the grok_bo.script and change array of difficulty_multiplier which is how much damage you deal based on the difficulty (130% on rookie, 80% on master, etc) and change the same one in grok_actor_damage_balancer.script which handles the damage reduction (65% on rookie, 120% on master)

Mind you this will affect your current game and any other past that. It doesn't change the loot availability or other modifiers that are based on the difficulty

[dusky cave]

how can I see what number of IDs my current playthrough has when I load the game?

[naive snow]

Either spawn a new item via the debug menu or open up the hud info debug menu

It's printed in the console

[lone jungle]

That’s all I want, idc about loot, there are 4 grok_bo scripts ,— close quarter combat///ballistic

[naive snow]

Change the one that wins the conflict in your MO2

[lone jungle]

Aight I’ll check, I’m new to stalker 😆

[sour salmon]

Hey so I was wondering what the numbers
"_3_1"

in

![supplies_1]:nato_3_1

which is in black market configs stand for

Does it mean that the trader will accept supply 3 level weapons and sell supply 1 level weapons?

[dusky cave]

thanks! and any ways I can manage the number IDs my current play has using debug menu?

[naive snow]

What do you mean manage?

[dusky cave]

reduce the number of IDs I have. So the 65536 (65K) problem will never happen

[naive snow]

Actually get rid of shit and let it despawn properly

The game starts off at 35k or something

It takes fucking forever in a playthrough to even get close to 65k

[dusky cave]

I had it once, after 3 compelete story lines. But it was my problem. Because ammo parts, tons of ammo parts, were in my workbench

[naive snow]

It inherits from that section, so supplies_1 gets its basis from nato_3_1

[sour salmon]

i see

thanks

[naive snow]

Nato_3_1 inherits itself from nato_3_1_mags and it basically just removes toolkits from trader inventories. It's defined in blackmarket_trade_presets.ltx

[queen crescent]

adding the shorty scope the M4_Tac, just to get familiar with this whole adding more to a gun thing; but the model I need to adjust is in the 410-3DSS folder, but i'm confused as to what LTX to chance. adding the shorty scope to the LTX in 76- boomstick en sharpsticks isn't enough to make the M4 accept the shorty in game. in 410 there isn't a m4 tac LTX. who knows which one i need?

added the shorty RMR in the LTX as "scopes = acog, eot, ac10632, specter ,c-more ,point_aimpro, leupold, aimpoint, e0t2, pn23, gauss_sight, susat, compm4s, marchf, kemper, triji, mark8_rmr, spec_alt, mepro, ekp8_18, 0kp2, march_f_shorty, march_f_shorty_alt"

[teal compass]

add it in the dltx

[naive snow]

Did you actually add the scope itself to the model and made the necessary new section in a DLTX?

[queen crescent]

added it to the model, and added the path to it in the LTX file.

i followed this instruction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8crq79zMfs

I'll check for a dltx file

[naive snow]

Did you make a new dltx for it? Your changes might just get squashed if you didn't

[queen crescent]

no, I edited the allready existing LTX file of the M4_tac. to which i'm adding the scope.

[teal compass]

no that might get overriden

just use dltx

[naive snow]

That's what I'm saying. A DLTX might override it, which is most likely the case.
You should ALWAYS make your changes as seperate new DLTXs

[queen crescent]

Yeah, i get what you mean.. can you point me in the right direction for this? (Sorry guys, complete noob but trying to learn)

[naive snow]

https://github.com/veerserif/gamma-dashboard/blob/main/dltx_guide.md

[queen crescent]

Thanks guys!

☺️ 👍

[teal compass]

[next zinc]

WHATS THIS ?

[teal compass]

m4 tac

[next zinc]

Lookd cooler than the one in game

[teal compass]

but its liteally the same one

with a scope

[sonic bolt]

The illusion of a different angle

[sour salmon]

[tawny prawn]

I finalized it

looks sick

did the icon as well

[dire rain]

Wasn't gamba themed instead of S2 themed?

[tawny prawn]

what? xd

[dire rain]

I mean, it's ok but

[tawny prawn]

i got bored of the green

and it fits with my Autumn repack

[dire rain]

I mean, i don't see none image from gamba, just S2 image and S2 old icon

[tawny prawn]

DUH

its a re-skin

for a STALKER Theme for MO2

since there were for fallout and skyrim

now i have one for stalker 🙂

looks better than base one anyway xd

[dire rain]

ok, initially i understanded that u was working on one gamba thingi, no problemo.

[tawny prawn]

it is for gamma, anomaly,

any stalker game that uses mo2

i made other variants yes

example

as well as the icons

🙂

[primal rover]

does adding 4k textures add alot of gpu and ram useage? i would assume it does

[primal rover]

these are cool

[tawny prawn]

yes ofc but for me i run everything 4k never had an issue

3060ti 8gb

i7 11th gen

16gb ddr4

[tawny prawn]

thanks, glad you find them cool

[primal rover]

oh i have a 4070ti with 32gbram with ryzen 9, ig i could run it, send the link please?

or is it already in the pack?

[tawny prawn]

what textures are you even refering to? xd

[primal rover]

the 4k textures in your photo

[tawny prawn]

aaa aha

a bro

im running textures that are no longer available

🙂

[primal rover]

oooh

rip

[tawny prawn]

this is what i run to re texture the whole zone

[primal rover]

ooho okay

[queen crescent]

M4 protector with shorty scope and the NAGL from KMACK's lvaw. I'm just ff'ing around with blender etc.

[regal bolt]

Well, we got 150+ guns in debug that are not spawning on npcs (in the list there're guns from debug and some of them is an upgraded version from kit, so it might not spawn on npcs, I guess? Also there're some guns that spawn only on special npcs, like scientists that give you task to find artefacts)

[calm kernel]

Guys, is it possible to add more entries to the craft recipes? Right now it's limited with only 4 items at one time. If you add more, item recipe is not being shown in the craft menu.

[rain wagon]

I want to add tritium to FNP-45 iron sights, but can't figure out which part of its texture is sights
it already has green dots there, but even if they're somehow present at ingame model, they won't glow
what to do?

[summer stream]

change the shaders name

you can use
models\laserray
or
models\lightplanes

[rain wagon]

where can I find it? there is no models folder in 312 gunslinger

[woven obsidian]

hey, im not makign a fancy mod or addon but i wanna make my weapons feel way deadlier, a guy told me to mess around in m_stalker.ltx and im seeing the fire_wound_immunity and wound_2_immunity. I have 2 questions, what are the differences between those 2 and how do i increase the damage intake? do i lower them to increase them? like for example, turn it into 1.5 or 0.5

or should i find a better way to do so in Grok_ballistic.ltx

[summer stream]

!mo2search

[queen pine]

@rain wagon Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

[prisma totem]

based rtac user

[misty mulch]

they aren't used at all, psych

[woven obsidian]

....

so wtf have i been doing

[misty mulch]

honestly messing around in m_stalker.ltx is maybe the worst way to make your weapons feel deadlier. why not just alter the weapon configs to make them do more damage? that's the easiest way

[woven obsidian]

:(

so uhh

damn....

[misty mulch]

but yeah fire_wound_immunity isn't used at all to calculate bullet damage to NPC stalkers, it's handled by their hitzones and bones armor profile, and the bones armor profile is dependent on the visual model

[woven obsidian]

should i mess in the gbo script or

oh

[misty mulch]

what are you trying to do, first

[woven obsidian]

i need my bullets to be bullets not airsoft pellets

basically, i need my damages to be higher

[misty mulch]

firstly i guarantee the 3x headshot dmg multiplier would do it but aight

use the FILES SEARCHER (on the right) to find out which copy of grok_bo.script wins all conflicts. Open it. Near the top of the file, find this section:

local difficulty_multiplier = {
    [1]  = 1.3,
    [2]  = 1.05,
    [3]  = 0.90,
    [4]  = 0.80,
}

Increase the difficulty multiplier for the gameplay difficulty you started the game one. [1] = Easy, [2] = Medium, [3] = Hard, [4] = Master (unused)

save etc. that's just a global damage-and-AP-dealt-by-the-player modifier

[woven obsidian]

alr thx

[misty mulch]

!mo2search // forgot to send the "this is MO2 search" command

[queen pine]

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[woven obsidian]

uh huh

i will comeback if i need anything else

thx

[misty mulch]

!crash // also for troubleshooting: temporarily disable the "Tosox Mini Mods Repo" mod. This allows GBO to print a damage report every time you shoot an npc. Get into literally any firefight then quit. Every shot that connects with an NPC will print out a report in your Anomaly log

[queen pine]

@woven obsidian, send the log to the chat where you were asked for it.
Open your Anomaly/appdata/logs folder and send your xray_[username] text file (.log) here. (image for reference below)

Note: log file is overwritten on each game launch, send it right after the crash _ _||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1206834462411722782/log.png

[woven obsidian]

oh shit thx

[misty mulch]

I guarantee you are not landing as many headshots as you think - some reticles are misaligned and it's all too easy to hit one of the hitboxes around the head

[woven obsidian]

did not know about that

[misty mulch]

also if the secret is that your barrel was shit condition the whole time, i will

now go forth with the gift of knowledge

[woven obsidian]

i could literally see 3 bullet holes on that man's cranium

[misty mulch]

gbo print or it isn't real, basically

[tawny prawn]

I dont play RTac, I made my own repack on top of GAMMA

[tawny prawn]

HK 416 with coffee brown skin (EFT Arena)

[queen crescent]

Bruh... how do I get my hands on this 👌

[tawny prawn]

this a build i made in EFT Arena

with coffee brown skin

would look soooooo good in gamma 😭

[tawny prawn]

wdym? 😄

I posted it hoping one of the gun modders might like it enough to port it

here is the build list

[queen crescent]

ah... do you have the models etc?

[tawny prawn]

if somebody explains to me how to rip them out

i would send them for the gun modders ofc

as i said, thats why im posting it here, in hopes they liek it enough to port it

[queen crescent]

Because yes, it would look cool in GAMMA. if you can extract models/textures etc. I would like to give it a go. no promises, I'm just started to learn, but why not.

[tawny prawn]

i just love that coffee brown and hk 416 is my fav, always wanted a CQB build like that in GAMMA

[tawny prawn]

sick

now we need somebody to tell me how

BTW

since i have EFT Arena on top of EFT

i got a LOT of skin sprays

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS XD

I added you on disc

im guessing since i have both games i can rip out the files somehow

i think there is a 1 hour + video

of explaining how to port the EFT guns

On a different note, is there a way for me to change Merc and UNISG names to be UK/USA/EU names

bcs that would be accurate

i hate talking to merc with different flag countries on them and talking english

but having russian names, it makes no sense

same goes for UNISG

if anybody knows how, let me know so i can make a patch

[regal bolt]

Can't write to suggestions, but how about making a mod where not all npcs can be hostiles to their faction's enemies. Like in stories, movies, history there were people who stood against faction/guild/family/etc. rules, they cooperate with enemies to fight against their faction. Or some npc can be neutral to other factions.
Example, some monoliths will be neutral to you because they disguised as monoliths and actually they are from different factions or they simply don't care

[naive snow]

Modify stalker ANUS

[summer stream]

yeah sure

[naive snow]

Blame the mod maker, I didn't pick the acronym
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/anomalys-name-update-for-stalkers-anus

[wide coyote]

Does a mod exist that places save files into its own profile so they don't get accidently over written? preferably one that keeps MCM & Game save settings

[naive snow]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat , #╓☢stalker-chat

[wide coyote]

thats for gameplay not mod making

[naive snow]

No, those are for general questions. Your question isn't about mod making and you'll get a better answer there

[wide coyote]

it is as one doesnt exist. cheers.

[tawny prawn]

wait thats the legit name...jeez xd

[regal bolt]

i was considering upload the Death Stranding Low Roar playlist into my gamma game, anyone know if thats feasible? I mean there's an ambient music pack installed I just want to know if I can make one of those identical with different music

[summer stream]

!music / isnt it this

[queen pine]

@regal bolt Follow this: #╭📖faq message

[calm kernel]

What format of .dds file with icons should be? I'm using Paint.NET and I tried using A8R8G8B8 that was mentioned in anomaly-modding-book website in section with creating Inventory Icons, but in the game instead of my icons I see only dark blue rectangles. So game sees my .dds file. It just sees it wrongly.
Maybe that info in modding-book is outdated? Idk. Help, please

[regal bolt]

Thank you for the help

[summer stream]

wrong format and etc etc

you can try using different format, BC7 is the same as no compression, but only applicable for DX11

just don't add mipmaps

and LINEAR BC7

not sRGB

[calm kernel]

Damn. Still nothing 🙁

[summer stream]

.. check your texture path

[calm kernel]

Niiiiice. Thank you very much

I fucked up with the path

lmao

You saved me

[civic viper]

is there anyway to remove 3DSS scope on a specific weapon?

[fair canopy]

do you mean get rid of it completely ?

[civic viper]

no just on a specific weapon like the m4a1 siber.

[fair canopy]

ok but what exactly are you trying to do?

[civic viper]

i recheck the m4a1 siber new animation on gamma coz i like the old animation better and the 3DSS on it is messed up

it looks like this

[naive snow]

@calm kernel 8.8.8.8 is still the right format for UI icons. BC7 is meant to be used for in-game models.

[summer stream]

still can be used for icons

[civic viper]

@fair canopy any thoughts? i think removing 3dss on it might fix issue by just using the old reticles. but i dunno how.

[civic viper]

seen 💔

[naive snow]

But you shouldn't be introducing compression in your icon files, 8.8.8.8 should be used to avoid any color artifacts or compressed black colors, especially with the non-uniform sampling

[summer stream]

i love bc7

[ashen hatch]

would it be hard to remove the spawn of these anomalies in rostok?

Is it part of the map or is it added by DAO

[teal compass]

I think its the map

[ashen hatch]

[naive snow]

It's a great format for base color maps and even bumps (although it has more color deviation and error bias than BC1 with the right compressor)

[summer stream]

the best format for black color maps though

you need to make a good compression coder so it will have the same quality as BC7, but keep the lower file format like BC1

[naive snow]

I've actually had better results with crunch bin for BC1 with the right flags

[summer stream]

what is crunch bin

[naive snow]

Gets rid of the purple/green splotches that are otherwise present

[naive snow]

https://github.com/richgel999/crunch-1

[summer stream]

another library that idk how to use

[naive snow]

You download it and run it via command prompt or a .bat file if you want

The arguments that I found best are the following:
#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

[summer stream]

can i set it as DXT1

or it will be bad

[naive snow]

Yeah I only ever do DXT1

-uniformMetrics is really the main argument that impacts the color splotching

[summer stream]

what does it even do

[naive snow]

It avoids those weird purple/green hues that are otherwise plagueing the black colors

Instead of sampling each channels with priorities G>R>B, it has a more uniform sampling

[summer stream]

interesting

[naive snow]

It also works better for bumps since it avoids discarding information in those precious vector channels

So you're less reliant on having a #bump to correct the loss of information from compression

[summer stream]

oh hell yeah
even more complicated bumps using 4k textures

understandable

ill do stuff using that

BUT question

[naive snow]

I mean, it's fine to go 4k, since the memory footprint of BC1 vs BC5 is 1/4th

[summer stream]

what format i should use beforehand i turn it into dds

tga or something else

since i need to work with alpha

and PNG doesn't work out

[naive snow]

Any format that is compression-less, tga, bmp, png, exr, etc

You can always extract the alpha channel from the transparency of a png

TGA is my format of choice, 32 bit to preserve the alpha channel

[summer stream]

(idk how and my pc lacks simple photos program now )

[summer stream]

i do that all of the time

tga is pretty basic and also supported by lots of stuff

[naive snow]

Yeah it's pretty universal, it's just a pain that windows doesn't come out of the box with a codec to generate proper thumbnails for it

[summer stream]

oh btw question

i had a problem with textures

i did everything correctly, saved as BC7

in-game?

the sleeve texture turned into rainbow noise

for some reason

instead of JUST blue texture

rainbow noise

checked the DDS, it's fine

[naive snow]

Do you have a screenshot or something?

[summer stream]

did it uncompressed, everything's good and fine

[summer stream]

i don't think i have it on my hand

but think like of a tv nosie

noise

[naive snow]

Rainbow noise could be a bunch of things, a bad THM could do it

[summer stream]

but instead of black dots there's random colors from rainbow

[summer stream]

thm is properly set

using correct format with mip format

bump too

the thing is

8.8.8.8 didn't had that problem

[naive snow]

Did you maybe check on the DX10 headers? Don't know what you use to save your dds

[summer stream]

BC7 did

[summer stream]

paint.net

can't use Photoshop because DXT5 isn't present there

[naive snow]

What? Yes it is

[summer stream]

does it actually have one?

i didnt see it there

[naive snow]

You need to use the nvidia texture export plugin

[summer stream]

the Photoshop one

or program one

[naive snow]

The photoshop one

[summer stream]

the thing is

it doesnt work properly for me

BOTZ had BC3 made by Photoshop

a lot of people complained about it not working on DX9 or below

[naive snow]

I haven't had people complaning about the world model textures that have been used for the past 2 years, so

80% of the world models in Gamma use a material baked atlas in BC3 for their bump and #bump

If he checked on the DX10 headers, that might be why it broke on DX9 since the older readers can't read the new headers

[summer stream]

i didn't

[knotty osprey]

We're extracting to my phone rah

[tawny grotto]

Hi to all modders ! i am trying to get my OGF file exported from blender. but it keeps saying "Image is not in the textures folder: 'file name'"

[weary root]

iirc it’s warning not error, copy your textures to anomaly/gamedata/textures/yourdesiredfolder or whatever path you set to textures in plugin preferences and assign them from that path

[tawny grotto]

oh ok i see

[tawny grotto]

I am doing something wrong since the texture of my model doesnt show up in the game

[weary root]

i don’t remember if ogf had chceckbox in export options called texture paths from material names or smth like that maybe that’s why it’s not loading in game or you set wrong shader for it

if texture is not loaded you get warning in log file: missing texture from:path

[weary root]

hello

tell me if i said some bs above

[summer stream]

depends

the model can have problems on normals and texture if it has alpha

[summer stream]

(them being inverted)

[weary root]

yeah that’s also true

looks like mid section have them flipped

[tawny grotto]

its clipping thru the ground i think. the texture is showing its behind. my faces were looking the wrong way

[calm kernel]

Okay, guys. Now seriously.
What should I actually trust to :

11.43x23_fmj

GAMMA's Google tab for 0.9.4 saying it has 20 AP
In game description saying it's 19 AP
But, cyka, weapon_ammo.ltx saying that 11.43x23_fmj has 0.16 AP. I thought it will be 0.19 or 0.20.

How is it calculated anyway? Help me to understand 😄

[tawny grotto]

changed thiss and fixed my face orientations. lets see if it works

Welp here goes my first mod out of the assembly line. Now i have to edit the desc and properties names all that easy stufff

[weary root]

[misty mulch]

Me, I made the Google Weapons Database with ammo tab.

• Never trust in-game descriptions. They are handwritten. The ammo descriptions are the absolute worst out of all of them since all their stats are handwritten, not pulled from weapon configs.
• The overwrite-winning copy of weapon_ammo.ltx in GAMMA says [ammo_11.43x23_fmj] has k_ap = 0.020, multiply by 1000, that gives you AP of 20. Where are you getting k_ap = 0.16 from?

[misty mulch]

if you want a mod that actually changes ammo tooltips to pull from ammo stats, use Accurate Stats Extended (the updated version) or my Simple Ammo Stats mod, both are in #1035807043933720576

[tawny grotto]

Thanks to you my friend ! thank you

[calm kernel]

Oh... that weapon_ammo.ltx from GBOOBS... I forgot to search for this particular file in that window. Damn. Thank you!

[calm kernel]

Also thank you

[misty mulch]

the overwrite-winning copy of most of the player damage systems is actually in GAMMA Close Quarter Combat, which you should think of as "GBO tweaks for GAMMA specifically"

needless to say that "stopping power" thing on the bullets is completely disconnected from how the damage system works

[calm kernel]

With your Simple Ammo Stats mod I can see clearly how ammunition actually works now. And no need to add additional lines to the description of new ammo types with AP and dmg. Thanks again

[misty mulch]

regarding descriptions - you can check out my XML Overwrite guide for what's probably the easiest way to change already existing item text. If you're adding completely new items/text, disregard https://github.com/veerserif/gamma-dashboard/blob/main/xml_overwrites.md
an example of this principle being used in a mod is also in my Simple Ammo Stats mod, where I use this technique to change the descriptions of all ammos without directly overriding existing XML files.

also because otherwise you will end up in a file overwrite/replacement war with GMTOP

[tawny grotto]

thank you for the advice, its a nice feature to not be able to override files to do changes. I love it

[misty mulch]

(i mean if you're adding completely new item text, then you add a new xml file, so no file overwriting)

[misty mulch]

fwiw I also strongly encourage you to use DLTX (non-overwriting) over LTX direct file replacement, for your Item Tweaks mod

let me make you an example

you even already use a DLTX file to modify repair kit uses, why not use DLTX for your consumables?

all three of items_cooking, items_drink and items_medical have system.ltx as their root

you could even do it in a single DLTX file if you so wished

[tawny grotto]

I was trying to learn, I am not that versed in this game. I have couple hundred hours of modding experience from other games > Driv3r, GTA3, Men of War. Been trying to figure out with the amazing guide you guys made. I am thinking about moving all the changes to a seperate DLTX (since i learned how to do it couple of hours ago) in my next update. But thanks for the advice ill try to keep those in mind.

[misty mulch]

oh uhhhhh also

your mod_system_GAMMA_repair_kits_uses.ltx file doesn't work atm

you're missing ! in front of the section names - this tells the engine to modify those already-existing configs

[misty mulch]

contents should be

![toolkit_r7]
max_uses = 8

![toolkit_r5]
max_uses = 8

![toolkit_s]
max_uses = 8

![toolkit_p]
max_uses = 8

But on top of this: instead of directly overwriting an existing file, simply make your file win the DLTX overwrite. DLTXes load alphabetically, last loaded wins (sidenote: 8 max uses breaks the game in silly ways since you can now completely restore one-and-a-half guns from broken to 100% pristine with no effort)

(i am also now learning to use LTXDiff to auto-generate the DLTX version of LTX config overwrites so. there's something in it for me too)

[tawny grotto]

so putting (!) is necesary from what i understand

[misty mulch]

behold, your entire mod (without the toolkit changes) as a single file (eta: this goes in gamedata\configs)

[tawny grotto]

fr ???

[misty mulch]

yes, because in that DLTX file, you are changing an existing section: https://github.com/veerserif/gamma-dashboard/blob/main/dltx_guide.md#dltx-file-contents-and-syntax

[misty mulch]

LTXDiff is your friend: https://github.com/MerelyMezz/LTXDiff

LTXDiff dltxify [base directory] [mod directory] [mod name]
Applies diff on an entire mod directory automatically and saving a fully deployable version of the mod in "[mod directory]_DLTX".

i'd probably edit that to add comments, just to break up the sesctions by e.g. "cooking", "drinks", "med items" etc

wait i should fuckin do this for the ammo maker -> revised ammo maker gamma patch. hell yes

[tawny grotto]

trying to process all these, can i use your file ? ill check if everything is in order and might use it on the next update

[misty mulch]

yeah sure, i edited the message with filepath, feel free to ping me here if you have more questions about using dltx
(all i did was use the LTXDiff program to autogenerate that file anyway)

[tawny grotto]

from what i understand this should work right ? (both of them arleady works i just combined them together)

[tawny grotto]

I might reduce the amount of times you can use a repair kit. I am trying to figure out the best balance between without making it unblievably fragile

[misty mulch]

no, do not add anything to your existing items_*.ltx files - you should actually get rid of those files entirely, since they are entirely superceded by the DLTX files.
All DLTX files have the filename pattern mod_*.ltx

[tawny grotto]

sorry forgot to post the file name

[misty mulch]

for the record, originally repair kits had 5 uses, it was then pointed out this lets you magically restore 1 gun from "dogshit piece of rust" to "perfect pristine weapon", so it was reduced to 3 uses For Balancing

[misty mulch]

if it's in a DLTX file, then don't copy over parameters you aren't modifying. The generated DLTX file I attached already and only includes modified parameters

doublecheck it, obviously, since i think it's doing more than you want to for the repair kits

(i think the program encountered a typo'ed DLTX file and didn't know what to do with it)

anyway, going to your [pepsi] example - let's say that all you want to do is change the max number of uses to 2, and idk, make the cost 574. your entire entry on your DLTX file would be:

![pepsi] ; the ! tells the engine to modify this section, using the parameter values below
max_uses = 2
cost     = 574

[tawny grotto]

i might reduce it who knows. 3 seems so little for a huge repair kit. around maybe 5-6 i know it makes the game easier and throws thee balance a little out

[misty mulch]

you aren't changing the other params, so don't include them

[misty mulch]

the other considerations are:

• field stripping parts lets you swap parts in and out, aside from the barrel, completely for free (you don't even need tools)
• you can replace any part, if you have a spare, at a workbench, without consuming any repair kit uses. This only uses up the spare part you had, and yes, this works on barrels
• repair kit uses only get used up if right clicking the gun -> Maintain Parts -> replace X

thus the "optimal" kit usage is "repair the barrel by right click -> Maintain Parts, use field strip to swap in new versions of all other parts, you have now fully fixed the gun with only 1 repair kit charge without needing to find a spare barrel"

[tawny grotto]

i never used these kits that much but eh. 3 uses so little sometimes you hesitate to even use them. thinking hey there might be a more useful think i can use on it. I finished GAMMA once so beat me to it i am not that hardcore. I can always make a version where the repair kit uses stays the same

[misty mulch]

sure, it's still your mod, but i just wanted to list out the game design considerations here

[tawny grotto]

i see isee, thank you for your comments i love it. Nice to see someone comment on it. and its toughtful

[misty mulch]

yeah i helped make a mod that makes gun repair tougher, so i have thought a lot about this specific system, though for a different goal

and you can do a lot through just config editing, in terms of the types of mods you can make

[tawny grotto]

i might reduce it to 5 or 6 for now ? i am trying to focus on (with the knowledge you have given me) port all my work to dltx and then move on to make a small drinks/food/misc items mod

i already did my pepsi so thats something lol

[tawny grotto]

I love this game since you can play it with your way, i dont like it easy either but ehh like i said i am not that hardcore. thats why i made the changes in first place. thats why i started to fiddle around with the game as soon as i got into it. I know the mod is trying to make it balanced and fair and not so easy. I wanted to touch on to some believability issues like 3 cigs in a whole pack of 20 or you can drink vodka 4 times but beer 1 time or 5 matches in a whole matchbox. anyway enough yapping more modding. We can talk about the balance issues once i am done and fix the problems

[runic cipher]

Hi!
Does anyone know if it's possible to create a new smart cover after the game has loaded, and make an NPC use that?
I have managed to setup a new cover by using the script from the mod Not Enough People, but if I create the cover AFTER on_game_load, the NPC cannot find it, maybe there is a way to reinitialize the AI logic, or something i'm missing

[misty mulch]

just for the sake of saying something: afaik new smarts would require some level of map editing to add, but map modding is the forbidden lost knowledge and i know basically zero about it

[tawny grotto]

i did not understand how LTXDiff works, is there a tutorial for that

[misty mulch]

for using the "findroot" function, it's in my DLTX guide. Otherwise, documentation is on its github page or just run the exe in powershell

my DLTX guide: https://github.com/veerserif/gamma-dashboard/blob/main/dltx_guide.md

[tawny grotto]

i might be doing something wrong again lol

[misty mulch]

You have to download the tool. It's linked at the top of my guide.

[tawny grotto]

I did

[misty mulch]

Also you can't just paste/type in the results

Did you open powershell in the folder that LTXDiff is in?

You cut out that info in your screenshot

[misty mulch]

Call the exe with & ".\LTXDiff"

I need to edit that

[tawny prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cook-breaking-bad-hoodie-gif-13536614

Who wants their Mercs and UNISG to actually have USA/UK/GER/SW/IR etc...names? 😄

Instead of the russian ones like all factions do 🙂

hehehe

I always found it immersion breaking talking to a guy named Baboon Basket and Ilya Cricket etc.... xd

its currently in development! ☢️

[tepid bear]

where is the script that controls the behaviour of controllers ?

[novel arrow]

Guys, please help me. I can't find the directory of the glove models (or other armor pieces) that the player sees from the first person view. Please tell me where to look.

[sonic bolt]

ANUS does this already afaik. Much more varied names

[tawny prawn]

doesnt work the mod

for gamma

if we manage to fix it we will release a patch for it yn

we will see

every time we fix one faction

the other one breaks

[tawny prawn]

we are literally patching for gamma

but cant seem to make it to work

fix one thing then another breaks

and so on

we will see

[tawny prawn]

download that Controller overhaul mod and inspect the files, i think your answer lies there

[tepid bear]

aight thanks

[misty mulch]

that's cos it's scattered across 3 different mods

[misty mulch]

what are you trying to do

[misty mulch]

ANUS mod absolutely does work in gamma?

it's even downloaded with the modpack, not that this is really a marker of compatibility

[sonic bolt]

I recall downloading ANUS from moddb and it worked, lately it hasn't so maybe there is cause to remake it

[tawny prawn]

it has bugs and conflicts and stuff

im not talking base gamma

im talking heavy modded 800+ mods gamma

[misty mulch]

LMAO ok yes good luck godspeed

[tawny prawn]

xd

ty

so far so good

with 802

works flawlessly

[misty mulch]

i mean "bugs and conflicts and stuff" is just describing business as usual in vanilla gamma anyway

conflicts don't really tell you that much

[tawny prawn]

ahahahahaha 4 real

it can get preety nasty

i ordered my repack perfectly on top

with all the mods i added

i found out the perfect load order

and everything works

https://tenor.com/view/crushed-it-gif-18087987023179949748

[ashen hatch]

if Ill delete this line will the melters have infinite uses?

[hoary cipher]

Really basic modding question but how do I make an item icon? Like how can I take any stock image and turn it into an item icon? Ik I have to set the x and y in an item config but I'm not certain as to how I would connect that to the .dds and also what do I have to know about the .dds before exporting?

[drifting moat]

Only one way to find out

[ashen hatch]

[celest forge]

@hoary cipher

[hoary cipher]

Awesome thank you that is very clear

[misty mulch]

there is also the stalker icon GUI editor that is pinned here

[hoary cipher]

How does it work?

[misty mulch]

no idea, never used it

download it and give it a whirl

[hoary cipher]

Haha ok lol

[quartz hill]

you open icon .dds files with it and it'll divide them into the 50x50 squares so you can easily get the x, y, width and height for icons

[hoary cipher]

Ohh awesome

[tawny grotto]

You can always take examples on base gamma or other good mods on how the game works

[tepid folio]

Who has IWP B-725 mod?

[summer stream]

B-725?

double barrel shotgun?

i have it on my hands rn

[tepid folio]

Cool can have it because the moddb one is deleted

[summer stream]

i wonder why

oh and no it's a whole pack of em

[tepid folio]

Ok

[summer stream]

and it requires a shitton of work to make it work on gamma so nah

[calm kernel]

How to apply custom trade stock for generic barman/mechanic or medic so they will differ from each other? One barman will have lower stock, another one - bigger etc.

[grim mist]

did u port these urself

[summer stream]

no

[misty mulch]

needs to be script based, your best bet is to do something like trader destockifier

[drifting moat]

This mod also has examples of de-stocking and changing what traders sell in general: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1376272268371562529

[ivory merlin]

I have a dumb question. If a mod is unsafe to remove mid-game, but I still want to test it. I would just start a new game and test it there. Will my other savegame be affected, if it is not loaded with the mod?

[drifting moat]

In general mods are unsafe to remove mid game because they use textures or spawn stuff that can only exist in the world if the mod is also present, so yes your assumption is right.

It is safe to test it on a new save and you will be able to safely load your old saves once you remove the mod.

I would advise you to take your old save files and completely move them out of the game's directories (so you can't load them even by accident).
When you're done just plop them back to their original place and you're GTG.

[ivory merlin]

Okay, thank you for that explanation

[calm kernel]

@misty mulch @drifting moat Sad to hear that there's no way to make it work via .ltx files. But thanks for answers!

[tawny grotto]

soo i have a question is there a easy way to add your items to all the traders ? or how to do it at all. I do want to learn about spawntables aswell

[misty mulch]

"easy" way? kind of, alter the traders' default trade profiles

[misty mulch]

spawn tables are a very complicated topic, and the answer differs depending if you mean "weapons dropped by dead enemies", "armor dropped by dead enemies", "other items from dead enemies", "mutant parts", "stash loot", "rewards loot", or "loose loot on the ground"

we aren't even going to touch artefacts

[tawny grotto]

Question 1 is there a Base file to do this.
Question 2 can i do it all in my DLTX file ?

[misty mulch]

no, the dltx files for traders are such that each one is its own root so you have to make one bajillion DLTX files, one per trader profile if you are modifying those directly

[sacred token]

Probably easier to inject items via trader_autoinject.script

[tawny grotto]

to clarify i am making a small mod thats going to add multiple Drinks/Food what is your best suggestion to aproach this "spawning" problem i have the items in game working no problem (minus the fancy drinking and eating animations)

[misty mulch]

only if you can walk them through it

[misty mulch]

pick which sources you want the items to come from, investigate those specifically

unsurprisingly a lot of mods just add things to traders only cos that's a relatively simple start

[tawny grotto]

thank you both the help

[tawny grotto]

welp here they are, i am happy with how they look

[rough lion]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-maguire-glasses-blind-spiderman-cant-see-gif-16452169

Can those icons be any more blurry?

[tawny grotto]

if you make it 1024x1024 sure

its 2048

I tought it was enough

[misty mulch]

resolution is not a guarantee of crispness

just cos something is high res to start, doesn't mean it looks good when you compress it down

[tawny grotto]

it doesnt hurt me that much tbh. I think it looks somewhat par with others

[misty mulch]

...i think they are noticeably fuzzier than e.g. the energy bar icon

especially the radioactive water

but i mean if it works it works

[tawny grotto]

i can redo that i have the OG high res one

let me see if i can make it more crisp

so much you can do when you are working in a 50x50 area lol

[misty mulch]

the water is too bright compared to the others

look at the mineral water icon for example

[misty mulch]

compare its color to yours. also note that the "text" image, while pixellated, actually works better at lower res than the super blurry "high res but resized" versions on your drinks labels

possibly simply choosing a different algorithm for downscaling to 50x50 px would work

[tawny grotto]

i think i figured it out

[tawny grotto]

thats pepsi btw lmao

[misty mulch]

so, radioactive water

that's much better

[calm kernel]

hahahaha

[ancient bridge]

Hi, I need some help. Which script in Gamma is responsible for working with radiation? For example, if you stand in a radioactive field wearing a suit, the script will analyze your protection and decide whether to apply radiation or not.

[hoary cipher]

As far as I understand it it's not deciding if you get radiation or not but all suits have a radiation immunity and depending on the number decides you radiation protectiveness

Unless that didn't help you

[tepid bear]

does anyone know how the map texture used in the PDA was created ? was it just some guy that drew it or was it made with some program to automatically stitch textures together ?

[ancient bridge]

No, I'm looking for a script that adds radiation. Here's the situation: I'm playing with an artifact mod, and I have a helmet and a suit with a total radiation protection of 80%. When I stand in a radioactive field, the radiation doesn't add up because my protection is high. However, there's an artifact that has a -34% radiation resistance debuff when it's at 100%. I have it with a condition of 10% (total ~ -3% debuff) and when I put it on, the radiation starts to accumulate as if it were considered with a condition of 100%. I've even taken artifacts with a -6% radiation at 100% condition, and there was no radiation. However, the resistance is displayed correctly in the interface. This means that the script responsible for calculating radiation does not take into account the condition of the artifact and uses its maximum value.

[hoary cipher]

yea it seems like the artifact is bypassing the armor maybe because its called after the armor? so this could either be in the armor the radiation or the arifacts mod ltx/script, im just getting into radiation understanding myself lol

[calm kernel]

Guys, what parameter is responsible for giving you coordinates of stash when you touch the dead body? I want to turn it off entirely and only keep stashes from actual PDAs which makes sense

Oh. I found it. It's in difficulty.ltx file

[elfin comet]

Hi! after installing the last atmospherics beta, my nvgs do this. Changing settings does nothing. I remember I fixed it las time but can't remember how... Does anyone remember how? (for some reason I can't write in the mod's chat).

[hoary cipher]

alright so im trying to add a new item in AAA style (anomaly armor attachment) and am having a hard time making the thing actually appear in debug would anyone be able to look at the ltx and see what i might have messed up?

i have it in the correct path or it should be anyway that being gamedata/configs/items/items/af_poncho_test

[tawny prawn]

anyone have a clue what anm_delay number is

waht it does

what*

im editing some controller effect ltx files

for the SKITZO controller addon

im trying to make the screen shake effect less shaky

just lower the intensity of it but i cant find the lines that do so

there are over 10 lines and values i edited for min/max distance and stuff liek that

and chance based on distance

but the camera shake anim intensity i cant find

any clues?

[hoary cipher]

anm normally mean animation so that seems to be animation delay?

[tawny prawn]

not what i meant

ofc it is

is it displayed in 21000

as miliseconds?

[hoary cipher]

Probably ticks or whatever it's called that the game updates by

[tawny prawn]

figured it all out

finally i tweaked and balanced out the SKITZO Controller mod

might drop the patch for erybody tonight

hmm

[tawny prawn]

does anyboddy know how to add the alternte tilt aim when pressing V on the guns that dont have it

?

(you know when you ADS and then press V for the canted aim style)

[teal compass]

Alt aim whatever in config

[tawny prawn]

I would start implementing 1 by 1, is it just something i can add or?

[teal compass]

and alt aim true something

[tawny prawn]

aha 2 configs ok

[teal compass]

I forgot but many bas gun woth laser has the line

[tawny prawn]

a lot of guns wiothout laser have it too

i will look into it and try to implement more

[teal compass]

yeah basically add that to gun and done

[tawny prawn]

a lot of guns dont have it for some reason

[tawny prawn]

damn

so i add the lines or the whole file?

[teal compass]

add the lines in config

[tawny prawn]

i see

[teal compass]

just reference from guns with working laser

[tawny prawn]

does it matter where i write them?

[tawny prawn]

ok

im talkin order

can i place the lines at the top or bottom or?

[teal compass]

i forgot but just reference from the working ones….

[tawny prawn]

i will compare

ty

[teal compass]

👍

[tawny prawn]

this should not crash my game right?

it can onnly look bugged or somethiinbg maybe

i think

[teal compass]

I dont know

trial and error

[tawny prawn]

kk we will see, i will make backups of the guns

@teal compass this it?

[teal compass]

yeah

Looks right

[tawny prawn]

kk

i will try to paste all that and re name the wpn tag ofc

after i eat

[tawny prawn]

so

ive finally sat down fully where would i add all these lines?
@teal compass

to which script of the gun missing it?

[teal compass]

just add it to the gun config

I don't know what u mean by where

I think I explained clearly already

[hoary cipher]

Under the guns hud section next to the normal aim section

[tawny prawn]

sorry its my first time fiddling with gun mods on this level

[teal compass]

like I said, reference from working ones

like just compare them

if could work anywhere maybe but I cannot ganrantee

[tawny prawn]

i still dont udnerstand which file i need to look for in order to add the lines to it

for an example

would it be this one, the main file of the gun?

under items/weapons/

and then add the lines uunder this hud section

correct?

[teal compass]

ok I will just explain it further

aim hud offset alt whatever goes into wpn_whatever_hud secton

use alt aim hud = true ges to wpn_whatever

[tawny prawn]

so it is the one i nthe screenshot

[teal compass]

its really easy

yes

and u can see it clearly from other gun mods

[tawny prawn]

aha i think i understand now

some of the guns like theo ne you mention for laser

is different

[teal compass]

what

they all use the same line

[tawny prawn]

ah nothing i got it confused

sorry

im doing this the first time

like trying to mod weapons

let me try and see if it works

so for instance

it would look like this but the wpn_name would be different correct?

the corresponding one

[teal compass]

yeah u can also do a dltx like this

exactly the same structure with diff name and number

[tawny prawn]

and i would implement that how?

write those lines to the hud section of the wepon

or

[teal compass]

make a dltx

[tawny prawn]

create a separate file

idk how to do it :/

[teal compass]

ok what the heck are u doing I'm so lost

[tawny prawn]

xd

ok ok ok

[teal compass]

are u trying to edit the org ltx or make a new one

because u only go wit one of them

[tawny prawn]

either way it works and is faster xd

[teal compass]

and the other is unnesscary

[tawny prawn]

i just want to add alt aim to guns that dont have it

[teal compass]

then either way works

[tawny prawn]

sorry its my first time with weapons

ty for the patience

so whats easier

can i just copy paste the SR-25 one

and paste under hud section

what about the ! mark

[teal compass]

! is for dltx

[tawny prawn]

aha i see

[teal compass]

tell me first on u are using dltx or not

[tawny prawn]

i thought so

[teal compass]

[tawny prawn]

well wdym xd

i am i guess

i have notepadd ++

[teal compass]

are u using this or not

[tawny prawn]

i can edit whatever

[teal compass]

just tell me that

[tawny prawn]

no

so look

[teal compass]

then no !

[tawny prawn]

so for instance

the weapon i decided to do as a test

is the pilliii honeybadger

[quartz hill]

poor yuki 😔

[tawny prawn]

the honeybadger is without !

[teal compass]

I felt like I'm dreaming

[teal compass]

because its not a dltx

ahhhhhhhhhhh

jesus

[tawny prawn]

yes ok

i udnerstand that

[teal compass]

mod_system_whatever is dltxs

[tawny prawn]

fck my keyboard

[teal compass]

if its w_whatever its not

[tawny prawn]

aha i see now

mhm so i can make one from scratch

then make the right pathing in the weapon mod fodler

OR

edit the weapon ltx and add the lines without !

did i get that right?

[teal compass]

if u are editing w_whatever, yeah do this

just add the line into the sections

if u cant do that just go learn dltx

[tawny prawn]

i see, ok

[quartz hill]

don't you need to position the alt aim first though

[tawny prawn]

ahh really?

but wait

i just copy the position

for instance

doesnt that give me the same position?

if i just copy

[teal compass]

yeah but lets first get the easiest part done which is not the easiest for him😭

[quartz hill]

don't think so

[tawny prawn]

really?

damn shittt

[teal compass]

it's different for different gun

[tawny prawn]

i thought it would jsut work xd

fucvk

[teal compass]

every gun has a different pose

[tawny prawn]

xd

mhmmmmmm

fck

[teal compass]

u have to pose it in hud offset editor

[quartz hill]

i feel like positioning would be the first step, why worry about how to add the configs when you don't even have them

[tawny prawn]

i hav e the editor

wait but how can i position it

[teal compass]

idk I add them first and then move the offset

[tawny prawn]

without seeing how it looks while canted aim?

[teal compass]

just get the alt pos work first

just ADD it

[tawny prawn]

ok ok ok

https://tenor.com/view/stop-shouting-arnold-schwarzenegger-jack-slater-last-action-hero-keep-your-voice-down-gif-21691190

lemme get to work

[teal compass]

🙏

[tawny prawn]

liek this?

like*********

[teal compass]

no dont wrtie the section again

it will duplicate crash

[tawny prawn]

the hud sec iton?

[quartz hill]

[teal compass]

put the lines into the sections above

all of them

[tawny prawn]

aha

1 sec

[quartz hill]

man already had a dltx to work off of

[teal compass]

I felt like I can go insane any moment

I would suggest dltx but he is not using that so

[tawny prawn]

between here?

[teal compass]

anywhere as long as its in the section

[tawny prawn]

what is a described as a section

[quartz hill]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[teal compass]

imma crash out

[tawny prawn]

AHABAAahha

dont bro

im sorry

[teal compass]

[wpn_honeybadger_hud] is a section

[tawny prawn]

i told you its my frist time doing this

aha so things with square bracket

[teal compass]

what ever is behind this and before the next [] is the whole section

yes

[tawny prawn]

so from first [] to second []

[teal compass]

pretty much

everything between is the section's lines

[tawny prawn]

wait now i dont get it

FUCKKKK

the wepaon has only one []

underr the hud section

and the shit im pasting

has 2

so that means what

i place it above the weapons []?

[teal compass]

ok hold on

what only one []

[teal compass]

I'm just totoally lost here

[tawny prawn]

only the first line of the weapin mod

has the section [ ]

everything under that is just without it

[teal compass]

what's inside

[tawny prawn]

only the things on the screenshot

[quartz hill]

is there no [wpn_honeybadger] section?

[tawny prawn]

its that small lets say

its at the top

[teal compass]

just give me the ltx

for gods sake

[tawny prawn]

but didnt you say to put it in the hud section?

which is wpn_honeybadger_hud

[tawny prawn]

wait wait wait

i can do that and i will if i fail

but let me try to do it

so i can do it for every gun myself

and you dont have to

ok

so

dont put it under the wpn_name_hud but under jsut the main one which is wpn_name?

[teal compass]

the aim hud alt is there

at this poin I just wonder why couldnt u just reference from working bas gun with lasers

they can exactly tell u how to do it

[tawny prawn]

you got me confused now wait

[tawny prawn]

its not there

i need to add it

under the section wpn_honeybadger_hud there are no lines for alt_aim

jsut regular

[teal compass]

then add it...

whats hard about that

[tawny prawn]

when i did you told me dont do it there wdym xd

[teal compass]

I dont get it

[tawny prawn]

i sent a screenshot

where i did add it xd

[teal compass]

because thats a duplicate

u have the section with the same name twice

ok I'm just done I'll give u an example ltx

[quartz hill]

yuki is so done lmao

[teal compass]

line 175, and line 225-226

[tawny prawn]

i only need these 3?

[teal compass]

yeah

just check it

[tawny prawn]

im surprised he didnt tell me to fck myself xd

[teal compass]

it shows u where to put the lines

[tawny prawn]

i luv you yuki

you tha goat

[teal compass]

I tried my best to be sane

[tawny prawn]

ok lemme see that

[tawny prawn]

ahahahahahahaha

sorry bro xd

LMAO

im sorry xd

[teal compass]

tell me what would u do at this point

😭

[tawny prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-gif-20710889

[quartz hill]

i'm ngl i would do the same since i committed already

[teal compass]

[quartz hill]

also why not use dltx they are playing gamma no?

are they?

[teal compass]

I think he is on gamma

[tawny prawn]

i am

[teal compass]

idk why

but he chose not to

[tawny prawn]

idk bro im new to doing this weapon stuff

i did mod other shit

is dltx easier or?

what am i missing

you told me its the same xd

[quartz hill]

he just didn't know 😭

[tawny prawn]

i said im a noob at this xd

[teal compass]

it does the same thing

is what i mean

[tawny prawn]

ok so whats the difference

is dltx easier or

[teal compass]

but dltx might be easier

[tawny prawn]

ok so how would i do that then?

[teal compass]

and it can bypass other edits

[quartz hill]

this file here is a proper dltx

[teal compass]

use that dltx

[tawny prawn]

its one of the bas yes

[teal compass]

change the section names to match

[tawny prawn]

same as the one yuki sent

[teal compass]

change file name

done

[tawny prawn]

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT I NTHE FIRST PLKACE

omg

didnt i ask that at the beggingn

xd

nvm

wait

fuck all that

let me try to do it finally

[quartz hill]

20% yuki's fault 😔

[tawny prawn]

i will do it liek the dltx

[tawny prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/math-zach-galifianakis-mathematics-maths-equations-gif-11093327

im dying

[teal compass]

yeah how about 80% for u

[tawny prawn]

sorry for the mental retardation guys my bad

[quartz hill]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-funny-reaction-meme-cat-kiss-gif-11351227363082477808

[tawny prawn]

AHHAHAHAHA

you guys are fun