╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[fair canopy]

Yeah it's pretty simple

Ar15 freedom is in the re enabled gamma weapons pack

[summer stream]

in the 3dss pack?

i just didnt know it but eh

some funny experience

[fair canopy]

It's one of the 3dss addons

[summer stream]

ah, didn't saw

[fair canopy]

Unfortunately since it adds a bunch of guns I can't name it anything specific. I should add a gun list to it though

[summer stream]

btw question about the 3dss

[fair canopy]

?

[summer stream]

the thermal scope, it doesn't uhh

kinda set on the guns

sincs i tried it for ak5

didnt work

it could probably the name or its just

not supposed to be on ig?

[fair canopy]

What do you mean?

Like is it supposed to always be on?

[summer stream]

is it even supposed to be in

default 3dss

[fair canopy]

Oh yeah

[summer stream]

uh-huh

[fair canopy]

The gauss scope is thermal as is the 1pn93n2

[lethal garden]

My sleepiness is also increasing drastically when Im around campfires. Is there a script or LTX i can edit to change this?

[gentle stag]

can anyone guide on how to get started in modding

plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

like a tutorial or smthg

like a i wanna make a few weapon mods

[lilac idol]

check the anomaly modding book in the pins ig

[opaque warren]

Anyone familiar with hud modding able to help me figure out how to move some icons around? i cant seem to find anything online about how to do so.

[simple scaffold]

Which icons?

[opaque warren]

just the food sleep bleed rad icons. i thought they would be adjusted by the maingame.xmls as but i havent done any hud stuff before so im unsure

[simple scaffold]

The ones at the bottom?

The alt icons script has a line that nudges them slightly up. You can use that as an example.

[restive plover]

Hi. Is there a mod to stop npc weapon jamming? They do some shoots and stay reload without cover, this makes fights easiest

[rough lion]

There's one for companions https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/companions-wont-jam

[rough lion]

Or take the "Lsz AI Tweaks" in the addons folder from this mod and edit the "xr_weapon_jam.ltx" if you want all NPC to be affected https://www.moddb.com/addons/loststalkerzone

[restive plover]

Thank you, i will do my best ❤️

[lethal garden]

Is grok already modding Stalker2?

[lilac idol]

@naive snow hey sorry to bother but do you know if HQ export might fuck up the shading or something?

[outer mason]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone is working on tooltip display on weapon parts, that show what guns they go into?

[fading bobcat]

Does anyone have experience editing the m_stalker.ltx to increase overall headshot damage?

[zinc flower]

Brand new to modding. Looking for whatever code is called to show item overlays when "use" is held down. Any help would be appreciated.

[simple scaffold]

that is 100% a hard coded engine thing and not really subject to modding.

i could do the same thing with a lua script if i wanted. but there aren't any good examples. closest i can think of is the body cam mod drawing boxes around NPCs. that code could be extended to do icons and text.

[zinc flower]

Oh, that makes me sad

Thanks for the info though

To be clear - sorry, your explanation was excellent, but just so I'm on the same page - I'm not interested in the code for the overlays to do my own, but rather to force it to be "always on" without having to hold the button down. I'm not sure if that makes a difference, but maybe there would be a way to do that in a mod? Like using lua to call the function without the button requirement?

[random fulcrum]

iirc bodycam mod relied on engine edits to do its thing

[outer mason]

@steady apex Hi there! Sorry to @ you, but I have this idea, and my rank is to low to post in suggestions. For your tooltip mod, would it be a lot of bother for you to add option to display in parts tooltip which guns they go into? For example when viewing a barrel it would display all guns that it is compatible with it in the tooltip? Or "details"?

@simple scaffold sorry, didn't mean to respond to you as well, though I saw that you are also an author of few tooltip related mods, so if you can weigh in on this as well, that would be greate.

[steady apex]

Hello. Unfortunately I won't do that for 2 reasons:

1. I quit making mods
2. The amount of guns will be ridiculous to display, and tooltip space is limited, it doesn't make much sense to do it.

[outer mason]

Thank you for reply. I think I will still pursue it but I won't bother you with it. Thank you for your contributions so far!

[naive snow]

Not to my knowledge no, it just avoids a bunch of vertex optimization stuff. What's your issue?

[near dirge]

What you can do is try and look at Hideout Furniture or Even More Hideout Furniture.. The fasteners and other materials show every furniture item in the tooltip.. As demonized said, it's a bit wild because it gets clipped and all over the place.. But if you want to make it yourself, that might be a good place to start in order to cross reference.. I don't know anything about modding so I'm just spitballing ideas

[outer mason]

I think what demonize refered to is the quicktooltip that shows on hover, but when you have a details tooltip on right click that can be scrolled... there is no reason no to scroll indefinietly

[zinc flower]

You could also change icons to instead be text, that would make it much shorter

[outer mason]

That was also something I initially thought when he said it would take a lot of space, but that would not be as easy reference.

But what you guys think of an idea to see that? Because I must admit I struggle to know which parts go into which gun, and it takes a lot of time to figure out if the parts traders have are for the guns I want to fix.

I am thinking for now I will just start a notepad, writing down parts name, but again... it is time consuming busy work, that I believe can be an ingame information.

[zinc flower]

I mean, I'd probably install it and use it. I'm not that bothered either way, but more info is always good.

[lilac idol]

none really, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't gonna mess up the model

thanks👍

[outer mason]

And you don't ever have a feeling that after you strip all the guns and put all the parts in the stash, you don't really know what you have and what you can fix with it? Then you fiddle with the workbench menu that closes on each repair (though I can swear I saw option to disbale that?). And if you have a bunch of broken guns and bunch of so so parts, it takes time, to figure out if you actually have the parts you need.

On top of that I have to bring broken guns with me to every trader to see if the parts they have will highlight or not... but again, I will start a notepad (but that is hardly optimal solution).

[naive snow]

Nah it won't. If anything, not using it is more likely to fuck up the models

[naive snow]

Just right click on the gun, Favorite parts, all parts under 60%. It puts them at the top of stashes, inventories and traders

[zinc flower]

Yeah, that and with time you start to learn what goes where. Again, I'd probably use the mod, but there are other ways

[naive snow]

It's that simple really. Also hovering over a gun highlights in blue the parts that go in

[outer mason]

Huh, simple solution. I like it. Still, I like my info everywhere xD, but that might calm down my itching brain. Thank you

[naive snow]

With the amount of guns in game, you'd just end up with a wall of text. Using Favorite is the way to go

[outer mason]

About that I am not so sure. Not every part is in every gun. That is the point. But for now I will use your suggestion.

I mean for barrels AK would be probably the most busy one, but not necessarly. Maybe smaller parts would have more, like those two barrel shotguns? But even then they do not repeat in so many guns.

Because as many guns you have, you also have a lot of parts. Not all guns have all parts, and not all parts are in all guns. Some do overlap, sure, but not as much as you might think. Or they might... until I figure that out, I will still hold onto that idea.

[random fulcrum]

not as much as you might think
insanity

[outer mason]

Not really. Name one part that would be in more than 5-7 guns

[random fulcrum]

do i look like i would know them by name

let alone by their section

[outer mason]

Quod erat demonstrandum

[random fulcrum]

why the fuck is bro throwing demonic curses at me

but anyways i assume you want it to look like utjan's crafting recipes in the tooltip thing

[outer mason]

Thank you 😉

[random fulcrum]

because if so then i don't know what to tell you other than that you have a very poor imagination

extremely poor

to not picture in your mind that you'll hover over one item and suddenly the entire screen will be filled with lines upon lines of guns that overflow the boundaries

which would make it useless

[simple scaffold]

lazy way, text list
look at cost in tool tip for how to add text to the tool tip. except where it adds it to the begining of the string, you should add it to the end.

this bit here you have to do no matter how you want to display things. you need to take the list of items that have parts and revers it into a list of parts that come from items
in the game start callback you make two tables: local parts1 = utils_data.collect_section(itms_manager.ini_parts,"con_parts_list") and local parts2 = utils_data.collect_section(itms_manager.ini_parts,"nor_parts_list")

make a third table parts_uses = {}
you then loop thru both tables. each key is an itme with parts and each value is a coma seperated list of parts from that item.

for key, value in pairs(parts1 ) do
  local temp = str_explode(value, ",")
    for i, v in ipairs(temp) do
      if not parts_uses[v] then parts_uses[v] = {} end
      parts_uses[v][#parts_uses[v]] = key
    end
end

do this for parts2 as well.

now back to the code you steal from cost in tool tip.
check and see if the item section is in your parts_uses table.
if its loop thru it and add each weapon to the tool tip text on its own line. use ui_item.get_sec_name(sec) to get the dispaly name of the part.

[outer mason]

Details not hover. You did not read all of it. And please, refrain from ad hominem

[simple scaffold]

oh i aint touching the the details window.

[outer mason]

Thank you!!!

[simple scaffold]

you have to bug dem for that

[outer mason]

Cheers. Finaly somone who is constructive 😉

[simple scaffold]

the middel of what i posted is relivant to any dispaly method.

[outer mason]

Silly question: what is bug dem? Is that some kind of a method, file, person or something else?

[random fulcrum]

bug as in pester as in ask
dem as in demonized

[simple scaffold]

i wouldn't actualy. i would go look at what they did to add parts to the deatils window and see if there is an obvius place to add a list of text. there proably is.

[outer mason]

@simple scaffold Yeah, I already promised demonized I won't. I think I can figure it out.

[simple scaffold]

i'm out. if something doesn't work its proably a typo. the core concept is sound: reverse the parts tables by looping thru them

[outer mason]

@simple scaffold do you know per chance where is "details" view in terms of files that regard to it?

[outer mason]

Yeah, loop is what I had in mind. I am just not advanced programmer (just learning atm) and not at all familiar with the lenguage used in .script files. I mean I can see paterns and can infer a lot, just... I should actually work on my project and not get distracted by modding xD But I feel like I will anyway.

[naive snow]

Double action triggers or single action triggers

[outer mason]

well, again ... if it's in details you have all the real eastate you want ... right?

[naive snow]

But why would you ever go in details of a part, scan a WALL of text to find the gun? EVERY time? That's insanity

[outer mason]

Cuz I might be insane?

And I do?

[naive snow]

But why?

[outer mason]

And that was the intuitive way for me?

[random fulcrum]

you're not being constructive wingardium leviosa

[outer mason]

Not sure what to tell you. I just do. Maybe I work differently then you and I just like the stats windows?

Also, are you saying that Details view is usless? Then why is it there at all?

[naive snow]

Okay so picture this:
The trigger component, the 2 action one is in 139 guns

[outer mason]

If not to provide DETAILED information?

[naive snow]

You're going to be scanning a wall of 139 gun entries on parts?

[covert pivot]

There's also guns that are present in the game files that are not available in-game normally:
#╟🔰☢newbies-chat message

[outer mason]

Weird... because according to wiki there is not 139 guns in the whole game.

[outer mason]

Then those can be excluded ... easily

[naive snow]

You are aware that the wiki isn't being kept up to date?

[covert pivot]

the link i posted is also probably not up to date but it shows like more than half of assault rifles are not available

[outer mason]

I will cross that bridge when I get there. You see a problem, I see a challenge.

[naive snow]

It's not a challenge, it's stupid useless feature

[covert pivot]

If you can make it dynamic, based on actually available guns, exclude variants etc then it might be useful - I have thought about the same feature before

[outer mason]

For you. Not for me.

[naive snow]

Crosscompiling guns that are in the loadouts + scripted and feeding that list to parts is the easy one.
Not using the favorite system for what is was intended is mad

[outer mason]

I told you I will use it. Not the point at all.

[outer mason]

But it is also not an intuitive feature.

Not for me anyway.

[naive snow]

How is telling the game, keep a lookout and sort by parts I need, not an intuitive feature?

Instead of scanning through a list of 130 something guns

[covert pivot]

Only time I thought about this feature is if I find just a gun part world spawn or in stash or something and want to know what gun it matches to see if I care about it. It's a small thing, but its atleast one application Ive wanted info on while playing

[outer mason]

You think from the developer perspective. From a player perspective when I see "Details" I expect to see all the relevant info. And that is relevant info to me.

[covert pivot]

But that can also be solved by probably like just description that would say what type of weapon it would fit into

[naive snow]

Knock yourself out then

[outer mason]

Thank you for your graciouse permission. I couldn't push forward without it.

[naive snow]

[outer mason]

RavenAscendent was. You were just bashing the idea. You might not like it, you might not need it, it might not be your cup of tea. So, how about not giving your input on it then next time? Unless you have something that contribute to it? And giving some other mod suggestion and calling me unimaginative in the same sentence is not really a contribution.

[random fulcrum]

you seem a little upset

[outer mason]

Oh... I blocked you, so don't bother. All I see is blocked message.

[quasi narwhal]

you're right

[summer stream]

damn, these newbies are something else

[outer mason]

I am back in the game and two drawbacks on "mark favorite" immediately popped up:

1. When you mark more than one gun, you still might not be sure which parts are for which, when you want to decide priority (sure you can also mark one at the time, but it takes away from flexibility), while having extra info in details would actually solve that.
2. Marking them like that also messes with "move all" when you want to quickly stash them.

[quasi narwhal]

btw, would u know if distance_to is faster than distance_to_sqr? or if there's any diff at all lol

besides comparing larger numbers that is

[random fulcrum]

idk really

the sole inclusion of the square root makes me feel it's slower

[quasi narwhal]

i'm doing a call per actor update and i feel like _to_sqr is faster for some damn reason lol

[quasi narwhal]

yeah i had the same feeling

but maybe i broke something else and i just haven't noticed it yet

[naive snow]

The second point is the option to lock Favorite to your inventory on Moveall, which is a mcm option

[random fulcrum]

huh

[outer mason]

Very intuitive.

[outer mason]

But you do have a point. I will look into that.

[naive snow]

It's to avoid just moving all of your meds and things you use often

At which point you can just Shift + hover the mouse over the items to quick drop everything

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-blocked-users-discord-gif-gif-17964926

[naive snow]

Take all or the autolooter will also just pick up everything

[outer mason]

No. So, I don't waste my breath on someone whos trolling me.

[outer mason]

Pick up yes. But not unload.

[celest forge]

Not sure how saying one of your ideas is useless is "trolling you"

but aight

[outer mason]

I was the one who said my ideas? They just shat all over it, without being constructive (like Burn tryes to do and Raven did)

[naive snow]

What do you mean unload?

[outer mason]

From inventory to stash. Move All

[celest forge]

tries*

[outer mason]

Yes. Thank you.

[naive snow]

Ah then yeah just use the Move All lock option in your MCM in item sorting I think and it will move everything, including favorites

[outer mason]

Sorting mod options in MCM?

[naive snow]

Tho I'd hate having to recreate a loadout every time you use that option

[naive snow]

It's Sorting Plus I think

[outer mason]

Again, I am loving that you pointed me to favorite parts option. But doesn't that admit that it is not perfect option?

[naive snow]

How so?

It points out to the parts that I need for whatever gun I'm trying to repair

Automatically without hassle

[outer mason]

I use Move All a lot. It is the quickest way. And I horde a lot of parts even if they are below 60% (for swaping parts to fix them and swap them back in) and to sell some when I have a lot.

[naive snow]

So what's the issue?

Favorite works regardless of part %

[outer mason]

So, if they are marked as fav even though I want to quickly unload them to stash... I can't

[naive snow]

You can, just use the option that removes the move all lock

[outer mason]

But then It moves the stuff I don't want it to move

and that is the "not perfect" part.

[naive snow]

Create a new favorite category, change the script to favorite gun parts to that new category

[outer mason]

Again.. you calimed it is the most intuitive solution. And now you suggest making script changes.

I might. But that is not intuitive desing.

[naive snow]

Like it's really a moot point when you can just shift + drag your mouse over it to move all

[outer mason]

With a lot of parts... it lags. First of all.

Second it is slower.

Not the end of the world, but you make excuess when you think you give solutions.

[naive snow]

But your issue with highlighting parts you want is fixed with that solution. Which is what you wanted. The issue with move all is a workflow issue you have for yourself

[outer mason]

Both are solved if there is part info in details. Because I do not have to use favorite, and I can move stuff they way I want.

I can shop easier with traders

[naive snow]

It works for 99% of people but because it doesn't suit your workflow it's not a good advice. Sure.

[outer mason]

That suits 99% of people? I didn't know scripting was so easy.

[naive snow]

No. The part favorite thing

That works for the majority of people, highlights in traders and everywhere

[outer mason]

I think you overestimate how liked the option is. It is more of - I work around it then with it.

[naive snow]

Okay buddy, do your thing. I'm talking to a wall

[outer mason]

Feels the same.

[outer mason]

Also, I did not expect an answer from you. Just pointing it out, that you decided to insert yourself into this conversation.

[summer stream]

and you just realized it?

[naive snow]

If you want to keep yapping, go ahead

[outer mason]

You are very helpful helper 😉

[naive snow]

But I'm not wasting more time on this

[summer stream]

i aint talking to you

[outer mason]

Nope. I think we said all there was.

[outer mason]

And not about me either 😉

[summer stream]

What the on earth are you talking about

[outer mason]

Nothing

[summer stream]

We don't understand at all what you want

[naive snow]

Maka did you fix your hands?

[summer stream]

If you want to do it the way you want, then go on

[summer stream]

still not, i decided to work on guns rq

there is gotta be also platinum TT and VSSM

[naive snow]

Did you try posing and moving the mesh pre-skinning?

[summer stream]

all i need is weights

since they are FUCKED

also with that i slightly adjusted them

[random fulcrum]

texture this to black ops 2's diamond camo

[naive snow]

Transfering weights by proximity didn't work?

[summer stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/969924176842473482/1308455671246880889/-tea.gif

i can't

[summer stream]

i didnt try it

[random fulcrum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901208163519455273/1015914478359027712/uncaption-1-1-1.gif

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-cat-big-eyes-big-eyed-cat-cute-gif-14459530881087846518

[summer stream]

because i'm kinda lazy

[naive snow]

If you grab hands that are already skinned to the same bone structure you should be able to just transfer weights by vertex proximity

[summer stream]

i can use weights from skat 9

[naive snow]

Yeah

[summer stream]

since i basically adapted the hands to them

[naive snow]

Just move your mesh before you skin it so it's roughly in the same spot as the skat 9 hands and transfer away

[summer stream]

vahui

i just need to remember how to transfer it

[naive snow]

That's a google it thing

Should be a select the hands you want to skin, select the hands you want to transfer from, hit the option in the skinning menu

[summer stream]

that

that worked absolutely fine

huh

nvm i did it wrong

man

and im dumb

it did not work

samsung_sob

[whole gazelle]

Hello I desperatly need a simple mod to bypass sleeping requirements in the game, i can paypal if thats necessary

"a safer place is needed" when trying to sleep in my hideout in pripyat outskirts top floor apartment

Like if that was more dangerous place than place full of outlaws and perverts. I tried multiple mods and tips, nothing works, not even a tent

[summer stream]

@naive snow and done, it should be good now

[summer stream]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/sleepwithoutshelter

try this

[covert pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1310295759114993674

I wasnt really sure how's best to make it easy to make something directly rarer, so I made the default weight 10 if value is not provided

[summer stream]

yeah that's it

now i need to adjust it

hold on

[whole gazelle]

Not working 🙂

[summer stream]

not gonna ask how

[whole gazelle]

Safer place needed

i even tried to disable immersive sleep

even the TENT doesnt work

Id say the mod you posted is either outdated or interfering with other mods that I dont know of

[naive snow]

Hey that's pretty cool! Well done!

[covert pivot]

gotta fix one thing because i forgot lua loop ends are inclusive

[naive snow]

It will help out quite a bit for loadout distributions. Now just gotta rework every darn table in existence

[covert pivot]

No tables I found really used the chance value at all, so atleast thats not an issue. just gotta find dupes and #*10 the weight value

there theoretically isnt an upper bound, atleast I didnt set one, except just performance of looping it

[naive snow]

It's more so the whole inheritance thing between ranks that needs to be redone

ATM, upper ranks don't remove low rank weapons, they straight up inherrit the previous section

So your master ranked stalker might end up with a toz106 or something

[celest forge]

Me about to put all my guns at 100% chance from now on so people only use mine

[naive snow]

zzzzzz_Mod_system_FixJuanStupidWeights.ltx

[summer stream]

im too dumb to transfer weights

[celest forge]

wrong z placement, idiot

[naive snow]

I'll poke the mods to get stripped of my modder role, I'm a disgrace

[summer stream]

i can do that

[covert pivot]

Currently 0 weight does work, I could probably change it so you can also keep inheritance, but just make it so the weight of the last entry is what counts so you can 0 some guns out from higher tiers

[naive snow]

I like my orange name, it fits my pfp

[celest forge]

Strip his smart person privilege

(Bro's smarter than I could ever aspire to be)

[naive snow]

I mean getting rid of the inheritance is easy, just remove the [Bandit_master]:Bandit_veteran

[naive snow]

Not hard when the comparison is a rock

[celest forge]

[naive snow]

What you cooking next emerald man?

[summer stream]

i'd wish i could cook

[celest forge]

Bro's shit is vegan raw

[naive snow]

Fix that normal map

[summer stream]

[celest forge]

I have exactly 0 clue how to do anything related to textures

Except, yknow

[lilac idol]

which gun is this

[celest forge]

Adapting them to X-Ray

[naive snow]

What's this gun from?

[celest forge]

MKGS Banshee

[lilac idol]

in Cristiano pls

[celest forge]

That's the name

[lilac idol]

[celest forge]

https://cmmg.com/pistol-banshee-mkgs-9mm-5

[lilac idol]

hold on isn't this gun the exact same as the UDP

[summer stream]

it's a

M4 chambered in 9mm

[naive snow]

Where'd you get the model?

I can fix your normal map issues if you want

[summer stream]

i think it would be the sketchfab

[celest forge]

CGTrader

[lilac idol]

yeah that's what I'm saying

[naive snow]

Taking a break from S2 modding

[celest forge]

It's an AR15 chambered in 9mm yeah

But like, extremely small and compact

[lilac idol]

crazy how in 5 years of anomaly modding no one had done a single PCC and now suddenly 2 of them appear and with different anims

[celest forge]

[naive snow]

Hivemind

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-4822326163116896763

[celest forge]

I put up a list of models that if people bought I'd do them

and a guy picked two

One of those two was the Banshee

[lilac idol]

this is the one I did https://www.artstation.com/shepard/albums/10406020

[celest forge]

Yeah I saw

[lilac idol]

I could have given it to you

instead of that poor dude paying for it

[celest forge]

I mean I have 0 clue of what other modders are doing or not at any time

I work as solo as I possibly can

[lilac idol]

yeah I get that

[summer stream]

[naive snow]

Hey did I ever end up fixing the bump map auto script to include the roughness tweak thing?

Dunno if I dreamt that or not

[celest forge]

I mean the one you sent me works absolute wonders

[naive snow]

Yeah that was the version that only plugs specular and normal right?

[celest forge]

That's why the model looks great in blender

[naive snow]

Did you just fix your HDRI intensity?

For the glossy thing

[covert pivot]

Yeah, I'm just thinking if there might be some other useful feature I could see about adding. Right now you can't really create "empty" values to not get anything at all. Like in the example npc_loadouts Tronex had grenades at 20% chance, but nothing in the script allowed to leave the choice empty - there was always a pick necessary, so that 20% was really just 100%

[celest forge]

The rig I use comes with a HDRI from the get go that looks very good imo

But if you mean for the icon render rig I have

Yeah I got the icons looking absolute sex

[naive snow]

Hmmm alright I might still do the tweak for shits and giggles

[naive snow]

Your smoothing groups are hurting me

[celest forge]

your

I didn't make the model lil bro

[naive snow]

Semantics, it's still your gun mod

Want me to fix it?

[celest forge]

So that it doesn't look so smooth?

[naive snow]

So it doesn't have messy fucked up edges that create black outlines from bad normals

[lilac idol]

uhh can you fix my icons too pls

[naive snow]

But yeah I can fix the smoothness via the bump script too

[celest forge]

Is this better

[naive snow]

No idea, it's a combination of the normals + normal map so hard to say without checking the data

[celest forge]

Might be blender being weird idk

[naive snow]

It's usually because the smoothing group of the object doesn't match the baked tangent of the normal map

It creates this messed up edge

Sometimes exported models just lose their smoothing group information when you're not working from the source file

[simple scaffold]

distance_to the result is the actual distance. distance_to_sqr gives you the distance to the object squared. because distance on a cordinate plane is (distance)^2 = (x1-x2)^2 + (y1-y2)^2 aka A^2+B^2 = C^2 so to get the distance, C, you have to take the square root of(A^2+B^2) and square roots are expensive. the version distance_to_sqr doesn't take that square root. it does less math. because if you want to know if the actor is 10 meters away the you can just compare (10^2) aka 100 to distance_to_sqr. if you want to compare two distances you can compare the distance_to_sqr for both and the results will be correct.

only time you should use distance_to is when you need to print the results. or compare a sum of distances. to a sum of distances.

tldr distance_to_sqr is always faster. and 90% of the time will do what you need.

[simple scaffold]

distance_to_sqr doesn't take the square root. so it is faster.

[quasi narwhal]

that explains a lot, thanks raven

[random fulcrum]

then why the name

are they stupid

what were they thinking

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405827490528100384/1296954327948070922/IMG_8338.gif

[covert pivot]

sqr = square

[random fulcrum]

!!!!!!!!!!!!

[covert pivot]

square root is usually sqrt

[simple scaffold]

they are named for what they give. distance_to gives you the distance to the object.

distance_to_sqr gives you the distance to the object squared. obj:distance_to(x) * obj:distance_to{x) = obj:distance_to_sqr(x)

name works fine

[random fulcrum]

oh i didn't read the explanation above the reply

apologies

it makes perfect sense now

[simple scaffold]

i should have just replied with an ⬆️

[random fulcrum]

try adding more zs

also check where you put the file

many such cases where they slap it into gamedata\configs\items[...]

yeah that's where system dltx files go

[covert pivot]

You might need to put the those sections in a file next to where devices.ltx actually is, because devices.ltx is only loaded directly into a script. Its not included into something like system.ltx which would be why gamedata/configs works for gun_oil stuff

So try putting your devices.ltx sections changing dltx file into gamedata/configs/items/settings/

Only mention of devices.ltx I found was in the item_device.script:
local ini_device = ini_file("items\\settings\\devices.ltx")

[simple scaffold]

devices.ltx isn't part of system.ltx so mod_system is not the right prefix.

mod_devices_xxxxxx.ltx in the same folder as devices.ltx

Does no one learn what the body file names actually mean?

[outer mason]

@simple scaffold Hey, I love your tooltip in the corner mod, and if you allow a slight suggestion (I did it for myself anyway): to change the shift key (for side swaping) to either alt or ctrl? Then it does not conflict with shift pickup stuff. Just something to consider.

Or (which would be more hassle) give an option for MCM to set up that key?

Unless it's there under something else then tooltip in the corner.

[formal plover]

help

[simple scaffold]

It would be easy. I just haven't done it. I have 40 add-ons. 30 of them need some sort of update.

[outer mason]

Ctrl also works nice with armor compering from the stashes.

[outer mason]

Oh I know. Just if it's something that you would think of. It elevates your mod from 9/10 to 10/10. And it's just a tiny edit to your script. Ctrl is perfect as it will like I said also work with max stats check for stuff. Armors or weapons. But I get it if it's minor thing that you won't bother with. Maybe if I didn't do clean installs of GAMMA every time I update I wouldn't notice it as much. But appriciate you work either way.

[whole gazelle]

Okay no one is really interested in helping me, who wants 50 euro for writing a simple mod to bypass sleeping restrictions

[simple scaffold]

https://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/sleepwithoutshelter

[whole gazelle]

omfg

another high iq buddy

it doesnt work

[simple scaffold]

then fix it

[whole gazelle]

XDDD

thats why i offer money

obviously the addon is either outdated or interfiering with other mods

[simple scaffold]

remove imersive sleep.

[whole gazelle]

Its like my third approach this year to ask someone for help with this one, apparently everyone hates money or dont see that its stupid that you can sleep in your own hideout, where you literally put a tent in.

Already done that...

Tried removing every mod that has sleep in the name

tried editing configs and stuff

[simple scaffold]

arzi radiation over haul?

[whole gazelle]

no radiation would mean no problem, havent looked this one but would it be it?

[covert pivot]

are you using gamma, and when you loaded the mod did you make it load last?

[whole gazelle]

Okay so I set up the organiser automaticly like its said in the tutorial, and then I just uncheck all sleep mods, and then i check the sleep without shelter mod

[simple scaffold]

it is listed on the mod page as conflicting

comments

[whole gazelle]

okay lemme just open the thing up

i have no arzi radiation over haul mod in the list

perhaps i havent updated in a while

I will try updating and veryfing if everything is up to date, redo everything and report what happened

[summer stream]

question,
how do i make bump#

[covert pivot]

in mo2, you can go find on right side data section: gamedata -> scripts -> ui_sleep_dialog.script. It should have mod "gamma sleep balance" mentioned next to it. Just double click that and try deleting lines 131 to 135

[whole gazelle]

I will try this

[covert pivot]

(you should still be able to sleep with tent nearby tho at all times)

[whole gazelle]

but I think i can recall editing something like that

[covert pivot]

its the only place that seems to write "safer place needed" anywhere

if that doesnt work your best bet is to properly reinstall gamma

[random fulcrum]

what's that npp theme

colors look nice

[covert pivot]

uhhh

default?

[random fulcrum]

but default is white

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/969047068586950716/1238358608169664603/uncaption.gif

[random fulcrum]

thank you kind sir

now i'm interested in the text highlighting

[covert pivot]

that should be default lua highlighting

if you select language lua for them

i set up that up too many years ago i dont remember anymore

[random fulcrum]

i didn't even know it was there

[celest forge]

npp has themes?

I've always used white

[covert pivot]

maybe

[random fulcrum]

holy christ your vision

[celest forge]

Looks fine

[covert pivot]

hello kitty is the real way to code

[celest forge]

No fucking shot this matches my discord theme

[covert pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[celest forge]

I have found god

[whole gazelle]

hmm, might be something else actually... What if there is like a parent command that says "everything beside safezones (faction camps) =/= safe place to sleep"

or just checking IF its a safezone, IF not = no sleep

[covert pivot]

it shouldnt matter because we are removing the call for stopping the sleep dialog thing by removing those lines

do you use soulslike mode?

@whole gazelle because soulslike mode has its own sleep script, you can try finding soulslike_sleep_dialog.script and removing these lines

[whole gazelle]

I havent, but there might be a bug that its being read anyway, ill try it

im reinstalling everything to have clean base just to be sure

[flint crag]

<yourinstallfolder>/db/Textures <-- does anyone know if this folder holds all textures or at least specifically the ones for uniforms and outfits?

[onyx nimbus]

Anyone know if there is a api call to pull the dev2 modlist?
Like https://stalker-gamma.com/api/list?version=dev

Or something?

There is the modpack_maker_list.txt in the git repo but that doesn't contain hash or filename info

[fair canopy]

Dev2 is for testers

[onyx nimbus]

Yeah I was trying to pull everything down to try it out got the installer to always pull down the dev2 branch but now I was trying to get it to pull down the correct mods list.

I noticed some query params in the requests so I thought maybe the dev list was hosted somewhere.

Might just have to make a work around for that lol

I thought doing it myself would be easier that asking someone for the tester role which probably comes with some responsibilities

[simple scaffold]

no, those lines are just clean up. removing the sleep_active infoportion and telling you that you can't sleep. removing them won't let you sleep, that ship has sailed by that point in the function.

it will how ever break timed events as tehy do not process while the player has the sleep_active infoportion.

[naive snow]

If you want to get your IP and hardware ID banned from the back end server for trying to access Dev2, that's an idea

[covert pivot]

How so? The condition testing is done just before that, which gives the value to actor_hide. Only if actor_hide is false it will trigger that section and return out of the function and not run the bottom part of it.

[simple scaffold]

i miss rembered the funtion. sorry.

just add force = true to the line above the first if. then sleep always works.

in my defence that function has changed in 1.5.1, 1.5.2 and in gamma. XD

[drowsy sail]

anyone know what files to edit so storms dont happen every fucking day lol

[slow bolt]

You can edit weather frequency in game settings

[drowsy sail]

shit wrong channel

[slow bolt]

Storms are also iirc disabled in gamma, so you had to use that menu at some point

[drowsy sail]

ye mb. thought this was stalker 2 channel

[maiden ridge]

Hi! Does anybody knows what font is being used for PDA?

[simple scaffold]

letterica16 i think

[maiden ridge]

I meant this one from PDA. Sorry for misunderstanding

[simple scaffold]

        <caption x="290" y="25" width="260" height="27">
            <text font="letterica18" align="c" x="5" y="5" r="170" g="170" b="170">pda_relations_header</text>
        </caption>

i think it is that one

as far as i can see all the PDA fonts are letterica18 or letterica16

obvs if lang is set to rus it auto selects the rus version of the fonts.

i guess there is a chance that gamma changed it. xray sucks with fonts, you can't add more so maybe someone changed the letterica font to actually be another font. would need to check the mod changing the font files then.

[maiden ridge]

Thanks!

[sudden inlet]

How does CTime.diffSec works? From engine code it should be pure seconds but everywhere in code it counts in a weird way. For example shouldn't be here 10800 (3 * 60 * 60)?

    if ( time_last_checked and game.get_game_time( ):diffSec( time_last_checked ) < 5400 ) then

[vernal field]

Hey gang, do any of you know the inventory slot id for detectors? Editing a radial menu mod to include it, but can't seem to get that ID correct.

[simple scaffold]

or someone decided it should time out in 1.5 hours and didn't bother to update the comment.

note that ingame time runs 6x faster than real time.

[vernal field]

Tried looking through the debug menu, but don't see slot ids there, either.

[simple scaffold]

https://github.com/Tosox/STALKER-Anomaly-gamedata/blob/v1.5.2/gamedata/scripts/_g.script#L2016

[vernal field]

Beautiful, thanks a bunch! 🙂

[sudden inlet]

Does it mean CTime also is 6 times faster? Like, if I want to wait 1 real second I should specify 6 instead?

Oh, I got it. For 1 irl minute there are 6 minutes in-game

[simple scaffold]

if the ctime is from get_game_time() then it is reporting ingame seconds. ingame seconds stop when the game is paused, whooshby when sleeping and by default run at 6 per irl second. based on the time factor. during an emission they run at 10x for reasons.

[sudden inlet]

Got it, thanks for the explanation! They actually use this function so I understand now

[simple scaffold]

looking closer i think ctime is always used for ingame time.

the real world time functions all return msecs.

[vivid helm]

Hi guys, I wanted to know if you can help me modify the heal pool of the bloodsucker from 60 to 80 from grok balance mod. Can anyone help me?

[misty mulch]

#╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion this room is for anomaly

[simple scaffold]

local override_utils_item1 = {}
setmetatable(override_utils_item1, {__index = _G.utils_item})
function override_utils_item1.degrade() end

item_parts.utils_item = override_utils_item1

local override_utils_item2 = {}
setmetatable(override_utils_item2, {__index = _G.utils_item})
function override_utils_item2.degrade() end
function override_utils_item2.discharge() end

item_repair.utils_item = override_utils_item2
ui_workshop.utils_item = override_utils_item2

i think this bit of blackmagic in a script by itself will do what you want without breaking anything else.

this gloably makes repair tools not take durablity or uses reductions.

no, the script is in a finished state. it uses lua meta table manipulation to redirect the calls to utils_item.discharge and utils_item.degrade to funcitons that do nothing. but only for three specific scripts.

hence black magic.

if you want it to work only for particular items that is posible as well.

make this function override_utils_item1.degrade() end

into

function override_utils_item1.degrade(item) 
    if not (item and item:section() == "gun_oil_section_here") then
      utils_item.degrade(item)
    end
end

need to make similar changes to these lines function override_utils_item2.degrade() end and
function override_utils_item2.discharge() end

note that the one that has dischage needs to call utils_item.discharge while the two degrades call degrade

it would mess with the swiss tool and things as orginaly written, if you make it the changes so it only affects gun oil then it won't.

there really isn't a good way to do what you want with out a script edit. to do it without several complex and invasive monkey patches requires meta table magic.

local target_items = {gun_oil_section_here = true, another_section_here = true}
local override_utils_item1 = {}
setmetatable(override_utils_item1, {__index = _G.utils_item})
function override_utils_item1.degrade(item) 
    if not (item and target_items[item:section()] ) then
      utils_item.degrade(item)
    end
end

item_parts.utils_item = override_utils_item1

local override_utils_item2 = {}
setmetatable(override_utils_item2, {__index = _G.utils_item})
function override_utils_item2.degrade(item) 
    if not (item and target_items[item:section()] ) then
      utils_item.degrade(item)
    end
end
function override_utils_item2.discharge(item) 
    if not (item and target_items[item:section()] ) then
      utils_item.discharge(item)
    end
end

item_repair.utils_item = override_utils_item2
ui_workshop.utils_item = override_utils_item2

there fix the gun oil section being wrong and it should now only make items in the list at the top ever lasting.

probably gun_oil if ![gun_oil] works. section is the name in brackets for the item. i just didn;t want to look it up. i figured you would ahve

local target_items = {gun_oil = true, another_section_here = true} then. note there are no quotes with this table type.

just put it in someththingsomethig.script and put it in the scripts folder of your mod.

there are probably 5 ppl on this server that understand what this script is doing. most xray scripting never touches meta tables. but it is the best way to do this, trust me

[quasi narwhal]

never thought of monkey patching the _G namespace like that, thought that's pretty nice

[simple scaffold]

mucking with meta tables is not a required skill for normal modding. it is something that Demonized and I use to make some modded exes changes work.

[simple scaffold]

i'm not. nothing in _g is changed there. i am redirecting undefied indexes in those two tables to particualr sub sections of the _g name space. then i am adding a couple of indexes to them. then setting the utils_item name space in the target scripts to the tables i made. so that when they acess utils_item.discharge they get my new version, but when the call utils_item.in_actor_inv it goes to the normal place.

[quasi narwhal]

yeah i got that, but it's still overwriting the utils_items.discharge globally right

just what i meant

[simple scaffold]

no, not at all. thats the entier point. it only affects the scripts in the all white lines.

any other script that calls utils_items.discharge will work like normal

[quasi narwhal]

sorry not globally, but for item_repair.utils_item and ui_workshop.utils_item

[simple scaffold]

yeah. any call from within those scripts. will be redirected.

it is basicly a monkey patch that only affects individual scripts.

[quasi narwhal]

so it's like pointing just the item_repair.utils_item.discharge calls to another instance's

which is pretty neat

[simple scaffold]

if gamma has monkey patches on parts of these scripts this won't work. and finding what monkey patch scripts need to be targed as well would be annoying. I hope this works, but i don't know evey patch in gamma

[simple scaffold]

yes. but if you can't just do item_repair.utils_item.discharge = function(itm) end it will complain that utils_item is nil and if you just set item_repair.utils_item ={} first then any other calls fromt he script to utils_item will break.

hence the meta table magic to redirect all other indexes back at the normal script

this kind of thing works very well in vanilla. but monkey patches can quickly cause problems. namespaces get harder to untangle

[simple scaffold]

it's not the craziest name space weirdness i have done. but it is pretty cool that things can be targeted like this.

is the game running in debug mode? if so quit and post log. it will tell me if there is a script error, like a typo

[quasi narwhal]

so this means essentially you can change calls from within other scripts by "monkey patching" their metatable?
I mean, at the end when the game has loaded all scripts, is it all mapped under metatables thus allowing us to setmetatable in order to overwrite stuff in their own namespaces? As in their own calls on other scripts (like if script_a calls script_b we can overwrite that specific "import" only on that particular script)

[simple scaffold]

no. and you don't need the z's in this one. although putting 1-3 at the front will let ppl know it contains a monkey patch, which might be useful to know but isn't a functional requiernment.

[simple scaffold]

there is a slightly more nuacned/acurate way to describe it, but you have the basic concept)

yeah. entier xray log file, just drop it here

[quasi narwhal]

idk words are rough but i think you get my point
like, does that mean when I have script_a.script, and in it I call something like some_other_script.some_fun
does that technically mean script_a creates an "import/require instance" of some_other_script that is mapped in its metatable?

so that we can forward the calls only from that instance to another's by not fucking the other calls from some_other_script.some_fun for example

[simple scaffold]

no. when script_a tries to acess a table called script_b and that table doesn't exist in the script_a name space a line in the scripts meta table redirects that read to _g.script_b
there isn't a copy of script_b in script_a, just a redirect when it is missing and acess is atempted.
in fact this only works as long as script_a has no table called script_b in it. if it has a table script_b the read will go to that table instead.

which is what my method does it puts a utils_item table with my new functon into the target tables so they don't trigger the redirect in thier onw meta tables. then to handel the rest of the script i make my table have a redirecting meta table

ok. script is loading.

[quasi narwhal]

oooh i see, it's all under _g then

nice got it, thanks for the detailed explanation

[simple scaffold]

local target_items = {gun_oil = true, another_section_here = true}
local override_utils_item1 = {}
setmetatable(override_utils_item1, {__index = _G.utils_item})
function override_utils_item1.degrade(item) 
    if not (item and target_items[item:section()] ) then
      utils_item.degrade(item)
    end
end

item_parts.utils_item = override_utils_item1

local override_utils_item2 = {}
setmetatable(override_utils_item2, {__index = _G.utils_item})
function override_utils_item2.degrade(item) 
  printf("RAX degrade patch 1")
    if not (item and target_items[item:section()] ) then
      utils_item.degrade(item)
      printf("RAX degrade patch 2")
    end
end
function override_utils_item2.discharge(item) 
  printf("RAX degrade patch 3")
    if not (item and target_items[item:section()] ) then
      printf("RAX degrade patch 4")
      utils_item.discharge(item)
    end
end

item_repair.utils_item = override_utils_item2
ui_workshop.utils_item = override_utils_item2

try this new script in both ways. then quit and give log.

then i need to figure out what is actualy happening when you use it.

maybe remove all your dltx and spawn new gun oil items that will have the normal uses numbers

so that you can run the uses down to zero easier

then we try and figure out where it works and where it doesn't.

once i know what to ask I will have to ask the GAMMA modder hive mide for help since i don't mod/play gamma and won't be able to figure out what monkey patch is in the way.

(well i could, but easier to ask first)

this script won't do that. so it is something on your end. maybe you missed a dltx or... idk. you fully quit and relaunched the game?

[simple scaffold]

this is tacked to the front of your script.

                          local function script_name() \
                          return \"%s\" \
                          end \
                          local this = {} \
                          %s this %s \
                          setmetatable(this, {__index = _G}) \
                          setfenv(1, this) \
                                ";

there is a bunch of formatting and logic inthe engine
which, for my_script.script looks like

local functon script_name()
return "my_script"
end
local this = {}
_g.my_script = this
setmetatable(this, {__index = _G}) 
setfenv(1, this)

those lines are added to the top of your script. then your entier script is executed as a function. and it's function environment is set to a table stored in _g as "my_script" that means that any thing defined not a local in the script gets stored in the my_script table instead of _g like would be normal for globals.

you can see the same meta table redirect is used to send calls to other scripts to thier namespaces in _g

is that drag and drop or using the item in the crafting window or the repair window?

[simple scaffold]

bacily xray devs created a system for loading the scripts into tables that act sort of like C name spaces. it is nice. without the name space silos our scripts would be conflicting horibly. this works better for ppl used to C and for modular dev.

post log

[quasi narwhal]

ok thats really nice indeed

yeah i can see the similarity

it's like the implemented the access modifiers idea from C into the scripts

[simple scaffold]

add this to the very end of the script and try again.:

local info = debug.getinfo(ui_workshop.UIWorkshopRepair.Repair) or {short_src = "raven messed up"}
printf("RAX: %s", info.short_src)

i have decided to find the monkey patch myself rather than ask the hive mind

this won't change how it works, but you need toload all the way into a save for it to print what i need to see.

it might be something silly like the keep crafting window open script.

i was looking for this line: RAX: ...nomaly\gamedata\scripts\zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs.script in the log. let me see what arti is doing. there

ok change those last two lines to these three. and do the full test again.

zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs.utils_item = override_utils_item2

local info = zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs and debug.getinfo(zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs.WorkshopRepair) or {short_src = "raven messed up"}
printf("RAX: %s", info.short_src)

i think i fixed it but just in case i'm going to check for another patch.

good news zz_ui_workshop_keep_crafting_window_open is a greedy patch so we don't need to go deeper.

replace the last two lines with zz_ui_workshop_keep_crafting_window_open.utils_item = override_utils_item2

leave the zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs.utils_item = override_utils_item2 line there tho. it will still be relevant.

edit for clarity

[simple scaffold]

ok back to this:

local info = item_repair and debug.getinfo(item_repair.UIRepair.OnRepair) or {short_src = "raven messed up"}
printf("RAX: %s", info.short_src)

i think i was barking up the wrong UI.

not that any of that was a compleate waste if you decide to mess with items that are used by the other UI it will be useful

zz_item_repair_keep_crafting_window_open.utils_item = override_utils_item2

this is an amusing puzzel and nice distracton from what i am suposed to be doing. i assumed i would be able to identify monkey patches this way, it is intersting to test that theory

blame gamma for the extra steps. patches upon patches take time to untngle

you can remove the printf lines. or put -- infront of them

[simple scaffold]

those functions don't have any checks like that unfortunately.

[simple scaffold]

nice. glad to help.

[plucky path]

This guy is properly autistic holy shit

Raven and momo literally explaining the mechanics behind it

Just for this guy to block momo

[simple scaffold]

yeah, i checked out at that point

[simple scaffold]

no idea. it sould be atleast 99.9

there is a tool in the modded exes called unlocalizer. you can have it make that variable not be local then add item_parts.max_con = 99.99 to that script.

unlocalizer is an ltx shoudl look like

[item_parts]
max_con

but i foget exactly where the ltx goes. check the modding book, ask here againif you can't figure it out.

"floating point inaccuracies" actual condition is 0.0-1.0 and the way floating point (numbers with decimal points) numbers work testing for exact equals tends to fail oftain. so anything above 0.999 or 0.9999 is considered 1

[random fulcrum]

my guess is that maybe the engine would freak out if it saw a 1.001 or so condition item as lua is horribly inaccurate with numbers

[simple scaffold]

i wouldn't risk it personaly.

[random fulcrum]

same

but could try for science's sake

[quiet osprey]

Greetings. I'm not a modder, but I'd like to toggle a specific thing for my Soulslike runs. Would somebody point out how to toggle radiation draining stamina off entirely, and raise the base value from which radiation drains your HP from 100 to 500? It seems like a bit of trivialization, but in my opinion for a soulsike it is still quite fair - I just don't want to chainsmoke after a nanosecond in a field, and I'd like to have a chance to heal radiation poisoning instead of being stuck in a middle of an anomaly cause the game said "you can't move" after it raises the bar 0-2000 in a flash... Thanks in advance!

[quiet osprey]

From what I see, my question is probably related to script file in GAMMA's radiation overhaul. May I ask somebody to help me with exact values to see the desired result?

[covert pivot]

Yeah its probably the file gamedata/scripts/grok_progressive_rad_damages.script in gamma's radiation overhaul. You could try changing

for stamina
line 18: local power_dif = 1 - actor_rad * 0.4
change the 0.4 to something lower to lose less stamina, or just delete everything after 1 to remove stamina loss

for health loss
line 34:local base_damage_value = 0.0004
increase the 0.0004 to increase health loss.
line 45: db.actor:set_health_ex(actor_health - math.random(35,80)/1000)
increase the values inside math.random to increase the health loss when having more severe radiation

[quiet osprey]

Thanks. Is there a way (or.. what are the best values in your eyes) to edit the health loss formula so it remains basically the same severity but starts being noticable around 500 rad rather than 100? I'm fine with the mpact on health, I just want to have a breathing space to chug something in case I start getting rads

[covert pivot]

Its probably the line 40: if actor_rad > 0.1 then You could try set it to 0.5? Im not exactly sure what the appropiate actor_rad values are, but actor_rad is found by in the end dividing by 1000, so it tracks with the 100 value you say that it starts at

[quiet osprey]

Thanks!

[simple scaffold]

custom script with what ever the on drag and drop callback is called. when spary is dragged on X if X is something youwant repaired set the condition to 1

(you can set conditon to 1, what you need to avoid is comparing it to 1, always compare >= 0.999 or similar. )

[simple scaffold]

I do not know what would need to be changed for that to work.
Or why your idea doesn't work. Seems like it should. But I would have to take that script apart

[random fulcrum]

iirc grok's rads script has actor_rads be the result of the formula the geiger counter uses to display rads

so setting it up should be easy

[restive plover]

Hello all
Who know any good addons to increase hardmode? Make money farm harder, more dangerous and other???

[simple scaffold]

a few, but gamma already has nearly all of them.

[regal bolt]

Is it possible to add a small patch onto user.ltx in the appdata folder as a mod, or does it have to be handled manually?

[simple scaffold]

user.ltx is literally a set of console commands that get run when the game starts. it does get updated when you change key bindings and some other settings or run some console commands but in the end it is just a list of console comands to run.

you can actualy setup a similar list of console commands and run them from a script. that is what the forbidden default button in the anomaly settings does and why it breaks everything.

[regal bolt]

Oh

[eager spade]

Im trying to understand the end values in NPC Loadouts. For example: wpn_g36v_rwrap:r:0:50
I understand the weapon, and the last value (if put in) is chance to use that weapon if picked from loadouts at generation. Which of the values dictate suppressors and ammo type, and what do the numbers mean? I assume the ones with 4 or 6 is ammo type. Also, what about sight attachments? Even just a link to this info would be greatly appreciated, as I cannot find any information on this specific part of how the loadout files work anywhere.

[misty mulch]

to catch you up to the current state of the convo in addition to the comments on npc_loadouts.ltx - turns out the chance calculation is fucked, for a long time people thought that stacking entries would make it more likely to spawn. Turns out that's not the case, last line overwrites all others ( ). SD has made what seems like a vastly better system, here https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1310295759114993674

[covert pivot]

; - attachment flag - default: 0 - [0 - (number of flags)] - ( 0 - no attachment, Scope +1 to flag, GL add +2 to flag, Silencer add + 4 to flag). (if it's set to "r", it will pick random attachement)
; - ammo type - default: 0 - [0 - (number of ammo - 1)] - (if it's set to "r", it will pick random ammo type)

weapon:attachment_flag:ammo_type:chance

This info is from npc_loadouts.ltx

[eager spade]

Well that saves me alot more time 😢 I assumed that is how it worked. Well sheoot. lol Thank you SD, I refound that info just now. I thought about just using a mod but with BaS and everything else in Gamma and stuff its a chore to manage with so much extra stuff to consider. Ill check out your work SD. Thank you both for the quick and helpful info, saved me a great deal of time forsure.

[covert pivot]

If you have any other questions about it feel free to ask

[misty mulch]

ngl the weighted loadout method looks so much nicer

[covert pivot]

I discussed another addition to the script with Grok since I saw he had added a % chance value to the "r" attachment selection ing GAMMA Economy mod, to reduce the chance for attachments when using "r". I was thinking to implement that and make it configurable in the ltx (so it can be overwritten with dltx) + make it possible to override those chances per weapon entry.

You could do it with the weighted system as well by having:
wpn_aek:0:0:8
wpn_aek:0:r:2

But its not very granual and becomes harder to manage if you say want to only increase scopes, or remove grenade launcher from experienced stalker but still keep randomness of scopes/silencers etc

[misty mulch]

oh right also iirc scopes chance is overridden by a hidden progression difficulty setting, scope_chance

or if not overwritten, at least "interact with this other thing in an opaque way"

[covert pivot]

I probably wont touch the scope_chance thing yet, just deal with the random attachment chances first

[misty mulch]

entirely valid

[eager spade]

Snap. This was so much to catch up on so quick 😆

[dire pelican]

Hi, i was wondering how i can modify the penetration values of certain ammos and armor br and br level in the mod or game files

[misty mulch]

step one would be to learn how to make a dltx override

because for armors, you cannot directly edit the config files

also "br level" is not a real stat and is calculated via the gamma actor damage balance mod, i suggest you do not aim for a "br level" number at all, the actual stat in the configs is ap_res

ammos - same thing, learn to make a DLTX override, manually change k_ap for every ammo that you want to change

[dire pelican]

Awesome, cheers

[misty mulch]

check pins, there's a reference in the Anomaly modding book

the best way to find an example to follow is to look for a mod that does something very close to what you want to do, and see how they do it

[dire pelican]

oh cool, i was just going to bumble around on google lol

[covert pivot]

This is also more to do how I think most weapons in Anomaly are defined, since most guns scope_status = 0 so the scope adding part i think doesnt run at all right?

but I also just noticed that even if I would set scope and gl chance to 0, the flag is still rolled from 0 to number, which would include scopes and gls and their combo, because it would be 0 to 4 roll

if (utils_data.read_from_ini(nil,section,"scope_status","float",nil)) then
    flag = flag + 1
end

if (utils_data.read_from_ini(nil,section,"grenade_launcher_status","float",nil)) then
    flag = flag + 2
end

if (utils_data.read_from_ini(nil,section,"silencer_status","float",nil)) then
    flag = flag + 4
end

flag = math.random(0,flag)```

[misty mulch]

you are more familiar with this script than me, i just know everything is cursed

[covert pivot]

its cursed for sure

[dire pelican]

So, just wondering, i can't just open the ITX and edit the value of the mod itself?

[misty mulch]

no, because you don't know what other DLTX files are overwriting it, and also it's a very bad habit (hard to reverse, easy to overwrite by accident, every time GAMMA updates it will undo all of your edits)

[dire pelican]

Okay, thanks for clarifying, ill refer to the modding book then. cheers

[misty mulch]

aight, you can always ask in here if you're having trouble understanding the modding book

[vivid jackal]

would anyone know how to get the Outfit Loot Factor option back into my Progession .diff tab? not related to GAMMA but I'm trying to do some loot modding/debugging for Old World and I would like to have this option on but its currently missing from the menu

I added it back into ui_options.script but it's not showing up, unsure what im missing

[regal bolt]

anybody got a mod that actually works for skipping shader loading?

[covert pivot]

#╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

[regal bolt]

oops sorry my bad wrong chat

[simple scaffold]

it shows the total at the bottom corectly?

give me this script pls, i don't have easy acess to a copy. zz_item_repair_keep_crafting_window_open

[trail valley]

what file should i look for if i want to change crafting recipes, or add my own

i have a very limited knowledge of modding but the code looks easy enough to fuck with

is this in the anomaly file or gamma file

i dont have the items file

so i add the unpacked folder to my anomaly folder

ok so is craft.ltx the file thats used for crafting, or is it just an example file, because really im just trying to make vodka and drug production cheaper

well let me try to make a mod file first because its probably not the smartest to change the raw file

[simple scaffold]

make line 206: if not (obj_1 and self.con_val[4]) then printf("RAX o: %s, cv: %s", obj_1 and obj_1:section(), self.con_val[4] ) return end and see if it prints to console when you push repair.

[blissful tartan]

has anyone ever get their hands on gunslinger first aid kit anim for anomaly ?

[simple scaffold]

move the printf out of the line and to the empy line below. try again. need to figure out where this thing is failing.

[simple scaffold]

just the printf(...) the return end should stay on the line above.

and when you close the UI the item is still damaged?

give me the item_artifact script from gamma pls

well geb that too.

make line 8
local art_dbg = true

see if it prints something when you reapir the hide or an artifact

you need to undo the change that lets you reapir them to 100%, or make it a bit further away.

i was thinking something else.

basicly repairing an arty to 100% makes the zz_item_artefact.script think the condition is bugged and it resets it to a stored value.

one solution. make yor spray only repair 5% and add to the gun oil section repair_max_condition = 0.95

or 10% and 0.90

or add this to your script

local orepair = item_repair.UIRepair.OnRepair
item_repair.UIRepair.OnRepair = function(self)
  local obj_1 = self.CC[1]:GetCell_Selected(true)
  if obj_1 and obj_1:is_artefact() and self.con_val[4] => 100 then
     self.con_val[4] = 99.99
  end
  orepair(self)
end

a script patch like ⬆️

the one you have been using is fine. it's all part of the same change right?

it could be another script but i don't see a need to break them out.

it does need to be a script that name is alphabeticaly after zz_item_artefact but your script name works.

this script. as long as it has zzz or more z's at the front of the name.

can put many patches in one script.

that script is already patching 5 scripts. what is one more patch.

no you can skip that

local orepair = item_repair.UIRepair.OnRepair
item_repair.UIRepair.OnRepair = function(self)
  local obj_1 = self.CC[1]:GetCell_Selected(true)
  printf("RAX o: %s, art %s, cv %s", obj_1 and obj_1:section(), obj_1 and obj_1:is_artefact(), self.con_val[4])
  if obj_1 and obj_1:is_artefact() and self.con_val[4] >= 100 then
     self.con_val[4] = 99.99
  end
  orepair(self)
end

if it works you can mark out the print with -- again, if not give log.

paste the whole block in, i fixed small typos not just added print

[broken flint]

There is an ambient sound I can't track down, this default dark wind droning sound.

It is different in GAMMA vs. vanilla Anomaly but I just can't find it and it isn't winds.ogg that vanilla uses. The sound is louder in storm_5, it loops seamlessly. I've checked backgrounds.ltx and it's none of them. Anyone know which one it is? Is it procedurally generated?

[simple scaffold]

at the engine level anything you can put in an artifact slot is an artifact. there are distictions between artifacts, hides and attachemetns in the inventory code higher up. but that doesn't matter for this fix.

[covert pivot]

I did some prodding and it looks like the scope_chance setting affects only weapons that use the scopes array with different sections for each gun+scope combo, while the random attachment scope affects only weapons with the old scopes_sect with scope_status = 2 (no vanilla anomaly gun uses this and i only found the sks as an example in gamma).

[misty mulch]

🙃 well thank you for investigating it

so functionally, it sounds like scope_chance is what matters barring weird modder choices

[covert pivot]

yes, and it comes from progression difficulty, which makes my idea of having a per-weapon override in npc_loadouts kinda not work, unless I change scope_chance to be like a modifier of the actual chance

[simple scaffold]

svt40 in base anomaly is a scope_status =2 gun

there are a small handful

[covert pivot]

yeah, I see them now, I must've ran my search on a wrong folder, thanks

[simple scaffold]

but you are correct on how the two scope types interact with the loudouts. that tends to confuse ppl alot

[covert pivot]

How does the weapon data change using this in the script? Like what if the flag doesnt match actual valid properties to be changed (scope_status = 0 or 1 with flag 0 (no attachments) or 1 (only scope)) - is it just ignored in that case?

data.ammo_type = ammo_type
utils_stpk.set_weapon_data(data,se_wpn)```

[simple scaffold]

IDK. utils_stpk is pretty low level. it might make a crash.

but maybe not, there may be sanity checks when the object comes online.

[covert pivot]

actually, its likely ignoring, because the random attachment logic has generated invalid flags all this time

So the current random attachment system already had a "built in" chance reduction of having attachments

[fair canopy]

Being able to exclude certain attachments would be huge

[covert pivot]

As in by group?

[fair canopy]

By section

For example, 3dss has thermal scopes that shouldn't drop for balance reasons but with the current system it's a chance to drop all scopes that can come on a gun or none at all

[covert pivot]

Could probably add like a blacklist into the settings

but it would probably be unconditional

Right now I'm implementing something like this:

; - weapon          - default: /    - [string]                  - section name of the weapon
; - attachment_flag - default: 0    - [0 - (number of flags)]   - ( 0 - no attachment, Scope +1 to flag, GL add +2 to flag, Silencer add + 4 to flag). (if it's set to "r", it will pick random attachement)
; - ammo_type       - default: 0    - [0 - (number of ammo - 1)]- (if it's set to "r", it will pick random ammo type)
; - weight          - default: 10   - [0 - 100]                 - any number should be able to work over 0, but it will spend more time creating duplicate entries
; - scope_chance    - default: 0.15 - [0 - 1]                   - chance for scope to spawn on npc (if it's set to "d", it will use default value)
; - gl_chance       - default: 1    - [0 - 1]                   - chance for grenade launcher to spawn on npc (if it's set to "d", it will use default value)
; - sil_chance      - default: 1    - [0 - 1]                   - chance for silencer to spawn on npc (if it's set to "d", it will use default value)```

the difficulty scope_chance will become a multiplicative modifier for the scope_chance defined here

[covert pivot]

Do you think just a unconditional blacklist would be fine? Or adding conditions to it (like spawn it over rank > x or something) would also be useful?

[fair canopy]

I think just a blacklist would suffice

[covert pivot]

I'll see after I figure the current thing out. It shouldnt be too complicated to just remove all entries in the blacklist from the scopes before picking one

[red sapphire]

Is it possible to make new maps?

[misty mulch]

technically, yes. realistically it's tough enough that there's like. one person doing it

and it takes a while

(maybe two people?)

[red sapphire]

new maps would be great though

[broken flint]

Can someone please point me in the right direction? Is there a default ambient sound the engine plays for specific weathers? I just can't for the life of me find this particular sound file

[broken flint]

Found it myself, it actually is procedurally generated from Perlin noise. The sound also gets louder with wind velocity. Weird thing to have in the engine when there's already a pretty advanced weather/ambient sound system

[lethal garden]

Hey guys, Im trying to have the base model of the XM8 use an integrated scope, while still being able to accept Red-Dots, but when equipped with Red-Dots, it still uses the 2D Scope Texture of the integrated sight.

Is this possible? What should I change?

[covert pivot]

Added the blacklist, seems to work alright. Can dltx stuff into npc_loadouts.ltx [scope_blacklist] section.

[fair canopy]

Ohh ill have to check that out

[covert pivot]

I basically removed the old "add random scope to any gun" as well, it felt like a feature that's just didnt match with the loadout definitions, where even if you defined attachment_flag = 0 you could still get scopes

[lethal garden]

Ive tried adding "scope_status = 1" to each scope entry for the rifle, but the 2D scope texture persist for the red dots. This hasnt helped either.

[simple scaffold]

Might be a wpo/opo interaction
They do weird things with parts to make you actually maintain the parts not the items themselves

[covert pivot]

Try adding
scope_texture =

to the section with attached scopes. If its a 2d scope it probably use the scope_texture value to overlay it

[lethal garden]

Brilliant! I just though of that too. Nice dude thanks Ill give it a shot

[simple scaffold]

If it is opo/wpo it won't be as simple.

[thin kernel]

Does anyone know if there are weapon repositions in the works for 0.9.3?

[fair canopy]

There is none

[simple scaffold]

Yeah, opo limits how much repair can happen to parts from the repair of the outfit.

I don't think that will be as easy to work around as the artifacts were. Maybe I look tomorrow

[dusky moon]

would someone be able to check their S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Stalker2\Binaries\Win64 and see if there is a D3D12.dll in there? I think I may have accidentally removed mine trying to get rid of fucking reshade

Of couuurse "Verify Integrity of game files" won't redownload that shit.. for fuck sake..

[naive snow]

Wrong channel, use the proper modding channel

[dusky moon]

Whoopsie, didn't see I was in the wrong channel, thanks boss 👍🏻

[quartz root]

backpacks

[manic crest]

The way I got around this was to do a quick hacky dltx mod that sets a specific armors immunities to 0 then sets that immunity id to all armors 😂

[simple scaffold]

local repair_parts = zzzzz_arti_outfit_repair.repair_parts
zzzzz_arti_outfit_repair.repair_parts = function(outfit, repair_item, support_part)
  local prts = repair_parts(outfit, repair_item, support_part)
  if target_items[repair_item] then
      for k, v in pairs(prts) do
        parts[k] = 100
      end
  end
end

ok the word repair is starting to look like a made up word i've typed it so much.

edit to use the target items table just like the other code.

[simple scaffold]

at this point his magic repair spray repairs outfits, weapons, artifacts, and mutant hides.

[manic crest]

yeah I might switch over to that than just outright removing degradation

either that or I'll just tweak the numbers until I find degradation of equipment that doesn't feel too annoying

[simple scaffold]

i just don't play gamma. base anomaly parts system adds a bit of complexity without being punishing.

[manic crest]

I like most of what's in gamma, just that part of it is a bit too much for me to want to engage with, at least with vanilla degradation values.

[simple scaffold]

same file, it actualy won't work in a diffn't script without some changes

it is part of outfit part overhaul. which i think is in gamma.

then what is messing with outfit condition

this is in the workshop repair not the repair item ui tho

ok skip that patch.

you need to make gamedata/configs/repair/mod_importer_something.ltx

init you need to change the repair_threshold of the [gun_oil] to be 1.0

you might want to tweak all of these:

[gun_oil] ;1830
repair_min_condition                                = 0.25
repair_add_condition                                = 0.12
repair_threshold                                   = 0.5

that is my best guess as to what is going on.

after that i'm out of ideas

[simple scaffold]

if i read it right it it is an upper limit on the tool. you would need ![gun_oil] just like any dltx change.

the discharge(kit) is handled by the first patch.

has_suitable_kit is only used to decide if to show the wpo right click menue in the inventory.

get_suitable is only used by that menu when it is selected.

meaning you don't need to do anything unless you want to change the wpo right click maintaince menu behavior.

[quasi narwhal]

you guys coding without syntax highlight are real heroes

[simple scaffold]

it's not actualy a patch if you don't put zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs. infront of the function names.
like:
function zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs.has_suitable_kit(obj)

you could try:

local has_s = zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs.has_suitable_kit
function zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs.has_suitable_kit(obj)
  return db.actor:object("gun_oil") and true or has_s(obj)
end

local get_sut =  zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs.get_suitable_kit
function zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs.get_suitable_kit(obj, clean)
  return db.actor:object("gun_oil") or get_sut(obj, clean)
end

the discharge kit should already be covered by the patch from the first day.

[simple scaffold]

i have them at home, i'm literaly writing code in discord right now.

[quasi narwhal]

oh yea, i'm just saying from the ss shared above

sometimes i'll see some people coding on windows notepad and i'm like "damn, that's a true chad"

[quasi narwhal]

you're not coding on mobile though right 😭

[simple scaffold]

i really try to avoid that

mostly because github mobile sucks and without a good way to look up the relevant code i get dumb real fast

[summer stream]

[quasi narwhal]

github mobile does suck

[simple scaffold]

contrarary to the roumers i do not have the entier anomaly engine code and sripts memorized

i am very good at searching for things and rembering generaly where i saw something after i read it that makes my looking things up very fast.

[quasi narwhal]

that's one of the most valuable skills a programmer can have though

knowing where and how to search/find things

you don't need to memorize it if you know where to find it

[simple scaffold]

well you can read the monkey patching guide, it has some advice. or you can go the inelegant route.

i obviously don't understand the interactions well enough here to be of much help.

[misty mulch]

ngl i respect the hustle of doing all of this instead of attempting to learn how repair works or, like, save scumming pelts

especially considering that pelts in gamma never wear out

nor do artefacts that aren't the perk artis

[simple scaffold]

You could always just uninstall wpo

[simple scaffold]

i don't think gama has opo.

wpo is what lets you strip parts and is where that zzzz_arti_jamming_repairs script comes from.

it makes maintaining weapons "more realistic" since you aren't about that all it is doingis getting in your way

ahhh, yeah gamma isn't that modular anymore, too many mods tie into too many others. it would take a while to unravel that then

[misty mulch]

weapon parts overhaul in particular is required for a lot of the other gamma tweaks. can't disable it

[delicate ridge]

how do i enable myself to be able to edit armor and weapon stats in debug menu?

[misty mulch]

that won't let you edit armor or weapon stats though

[random fulcrum]

stat editor works when it feels like working

[simple scaffold]

learn how to code stalker UI. Create a UI from scratch for editing weapon and armor stats and set it up to be launched from the debug menu. also make the entier back end for editing the ltx files. which will NOT play nice with all the DLTX based mods in gamma

[delicate ridge]

okay what about editing thru notepad is that possible? where would i need to search for that outfits stats

[simple scaffold]

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/configs/structure-of-files.html

[lethal garden]

Does anyone know about this version of the sig550? The "wpn_sig550_luckygun", its a vanilla gun thats absolutely awful imo, I tried hiding all the sig550 LTXs but they still keep appearing on NPCs.

[simple scaffold]

the apearing on NPCs is gamma. in vanila is it only from the specil gun traders

[covert pivot]

Look at GAMMA NPC Loadouts and remove all instances of them from the npc_loadouts files. It wont remove them from already spawned NPCs, but any new npcs spawning or when starting a new game they wont spawn more

[simple scaffold]

could do an all objects scan and replace them with something else tho.

[covert pivot]

Would fix existing save yea

[simple scaffold]

you could just do that every 5 minutes XD

(that is the worst way )

[summer stream]

ah

where did i fuck up

nvm i know

i added # there

[dim night]

Hey guys, Rookie modder here, I am looking into porting a mod from Call of Pripyat to Anomaly/my gamma install for personal use, its this one https://www.moddb.com/games/stalker-call-of-pripyat/addons/stalker-2-2011-character-models, anyone have any recommendations on where to start that process?

for anyone that may not want to click through, its a character model mod using some cut content from the original attempt at developing stalker 2

[summer stream]

aaand now it's crashing out

cool stuff y'know

i forgot i also used hud model for it, not the world that is supposed to be used

[covert pivot]

If you have it working in cop already then just basically drop the meshes/textures in and look into the configs/gameplay/character_desc_* files. If you want to add it to the random pool of spawns look to the general ones, if you want to replace unique npcs look into all the other files

<visual>actors\...</visual> is what you want to swap out to replace the character model

For the random spawn pool one just find the factions and tiers you want them to spawn at, copy an entry nearby and increase the id or just add something to it so its unique

[obsidian bane]

Hey all, I'm a newbie modder working on tweaking the new XRMPE CoP coop mod.

Is there anyone here with pre-existing knowledge of how the NPC combat binder/planner system works in vanilla CoP? I've spent nearly a week reverse engineering it using all the online resources I can muster, AI codebase management to reverse engineer scripts, general testing, Anomaly modding book, Misery config files... I've been really trying my best to figure it out on my own.

I can't get enemies to shoot at me past 30m and it's driving me wonky. Already changed elements of the combat_ignore and conditions scripts that I was almost certain were the root of the problem.

If anyone can help, let me know. I won't waste your time, but I do need some extra insight.

[delicate ridge]

so i want to add a new wpn to teh game it would be a copy of tt33 but i want it in no level lists (i will only spawn it thru debug) and to change its characteristics to be that of sr-25 so it is shooting 7.62x51 instead of 7.62x25mm and call it like anomalous tokarev how do i do it

[simple scaffold]

I posted a link to the modding book earlier.

I would read that and also go find a one or two gun weapon mod to see all the parts in isolation

But what you want to do is about 4 lines of text in three files. TBH

[delicate ridge]

how do i get to the weapon files? is it in the dlls?

[simple scaffold]

No. Base game anomaly comes with a.n unpacker in the tools folder.

You don't actually need them except to study.

The item format is designed to make copying an item with small changes easy, and anomaly is designed to make adding a new file easy

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/configs/structure-of-files.html

This covers the basics.

[hollow minnow]

Anyone would like we change map layout to this? To be like S2

[old berry]

no

[delicate ridge]

hell naw to the naw naw naw

[sudden inlet]

Raven, would you be able how to research behaviour of npc in warfare mode?
There is such thing as invasion when one faction creates several squads and sends them to a different smart to fight with its owner.
But currently when these squads arrive on the smart they do not fight "defenders", they only look at each other and hide in covers.

I would love to debug it, but don't even have an idea where to start

[rough lion]

Does anyone know if "Snitch" at bar getting duplicated is a vanilla Anomaly issue?

[slow bolt]

Bruuuuuh💀

[ionic olive]

is there any way to increase the rate at which dux's spawns female stalkers?

[summer stream]

modify xml files related to dux's models

@ionic olive find one of these inside the specific xml's

character_desc_general_freedom_dux.xml
character_desc_general_ecolog_dux.xml
character_desc_general_dolg_dux.xml
character_desc_general_killer_dux.xml
character_desc_general_stalker_dux.xml

and copy them

BUT
you will encounter problem related to copied strings

so you need to either

1. do different ways to them (like from ps5_4 to ps5_5, but you need to copy the same model and then rename it)
2. modify the id's

[ionic olive]

you're amazing, awesome, thank you. ig i'll try to figure out one of those

[ionic olive]

would modifying the IDs just require changing them to any number that isn't used or would there be more to it than that? ty again for the help

[summer stream]

to number that isnt used or just making it 105, 106, etc

[ionic olive]

cool, easy enough

[covert pivot]

You can use the same model as many times as you want, only requirement is to have unique id's (thats why entries we added for duxs models have a prefix)

[summer stream]

ah, k

[covert pivot]

Since there so many models in duxs mod we did it as varied as possible (no dupes)

But if you look at vanilla character_desc_general files they use same models all over the place

[dire barn]

was yold i can make this bigger by editing the xml of BHSRO. how do i do that?

[covert pivot]

by changing the pixel values in files in configs/ui probably

[dire barn]

ok but how? and where?

[simple scaffold]

once they are there they should be on the regular combat AI.
in debug mode go up to the NPCs that are just staying bhind cover and use the debug menu to print out what logic they are on.

as for starting points:

sim_squad_warfare.script
smart_terrain_warfare.script

and to a lesser extent all the scripts that have names starting with warfare, but i would start with the first two.

however it is likely some gamma something that is causing the problem.

[covert pivot]

The hud is defined by different small elements, most of the logic about where an item is on the actual hud should be I think ui_custom_msgs.xml. Changing the x/y for location and width/height to make them larger

(i have no experience with HUD modding myself so my guess is as good as yours )

[simple scaffold]

gamedata/configs/items/weapons/w_xtt33_anomalous.ltx the x is important, don't get rid of that

[w_tt33_anomalous]:w_tt33
        inv_name                    = st_wpn_tt33_anomalous
        inv_name_short              = st_wpn_tt33_anomalous
        description                 = st_wpn_tt33_anomalous_descr ; delete this line to use orginal guns weapon description
        ammo_class                  = ammo_7.62x51_fmj, ammo_7.62x51_fmj_bad, ammo_7.62x51_fmj_verybad, ammo_7.62x51_ap, ammo_7.62x51_ap_bad, ammo_7.62x51_ap_verybad

gamedata/configs/text/eng/tt33_anomalous.xml

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="windows-1251"?>
<string_table>
    <string id="st_wpn_tt33_anomalous">
        <text>Anomalous Tokarev</text>
        </string>

    <string id="st_wpn_tt33_anomalous_descr">
        <text>Insert description here</text>
        </string>

</string_table>

should probably make a text/rus/ xml as well but modded exes will default to using the english if the rus is missing.

new gun that is only a small change from old gun is very easy if you don't want it showing up anywhere.

every thing else you want to change, like fire rate or clip size, you just add that line to the ltx, if a line is not in this ltx it uses the base game tt33 lines instead.

[dire barn]

@simple scaffold do you know how i can change the texture size for the BHSRO hud? was told i have to edit an xml file but idk which one or what parts of it i have to edit.

[simple scaffold]

what SD said was right. it's just going to suck because every piece of the UI needs to me both scaled and moved individually. and there is no WYSISWYG editor so unless you are very good at graphing math it will take a bunch of trial and error.

the fact that gamma uses a BHS with hacky UI code doesn't help anything. really should update to xcvb's version with properly done UI code, that would make what you are doing slightly easier.

or way easier if xcvb implemented scaling in his UI code. IDK

[dire barn]

damn. yeah was messing around to see what effects what and it's a mess. if there was a way to see the changes in real time instead of constantly booting up the game and loading my save it'd save a lot of time.

do you know where the anchor point for the x/y coords are at? ie, center screen, top right, top left, ect.

[simple scaffold]

Top left

And no matter what your screen is set to the UI is always 1024x768

That gets stretched out to fit your screen. So any cord higher than those goes off screen

[covert pivot]

Wouldnt just multiplying all x/y/width/heigh values by the size increase work and then removing a constant value from all y and x values to move the elements back into 1024x768 view. Might be a bit wonky but in idea it shouldnt be too bad (just a lot of values to edit)

[simple scaffold]

that could work. like i said graph maths.

[dire barn]

ah ok.
i'm trying to have the stamina bar match the background image but no matter what it won't let me change the height and width of it.

same goes for the core health bar. i can move it, but not resize it.

[simple scaffold]

yeah, those are the reagular engine drawn bars for those stats. there is something weird about those status bars. eventualy i just decided to shove them off screen and draw my own for hud work.

[dire barn]

shit. so i either have to have the background template match the bar or make my own. i have no idea how to do that.

[simple scaffold]

progress bars have to be configured very carefully to be resizable and the engine ones never are, the texture has to match the bar size, so if you can find the texture you might be able to scale it up then the bar will scale properly. no promises, like i said weird. but easier than the other options so maybe worth trying

[dire barn]

yeah i have the texture for it. idk where the texture for the body parts are though unless they all use the same file.

i can scale it up very crudely, but i have no idea where the bounds are for the textures or how smart the engine is when grabbing them.

[slow bolt]

No need to edit the texture

[slow bolt]

it grabs by pixels iirc

[dire barn]

ok. how would i go about resizing it then? so far i can only move parts but not resize them.

[slow bolt]

its all in the xml files

there is a reason i rather not mess with UI

You can ask in dart thread below

[queen pine]

@slow bolt
Complete UI overhaul for ultrawide (that also fixes the minimap): https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1169311822139105380

[dire barn]

i've found where the parts i need are but i can't resize them. no matter what value i put for height and width they don't change. am i missing something?

[simple scaffold]

they are not set up properly to recale in software. you literaly have to scale the .dds

i can't remember the exact thing you need to do the the bar xml node to let it scale textures. and Haru isn't here to ask.

but scalling up the .dds will work

[dire barn]

so i just make the dds texture bigger and that should work?

[simple scaffold]

yeah. if bar xml size and dds size match all is good always

[dire barn]

k i'll give it a shot. i hope this works.

not quite lol. also, the psy meter didn't change at all. where's that at?

[simple scaffold]

those bars nodes are in maingame.xml unless bhs is being trixy. xml should say where the texture comes from.

[dire barn]

where's the maingame xml file at?

[simple scaffold]

if bhs is messing with it probably in bhs.

that definatly isn't what the base game version looks like

[dire barn]

i think i found it. neither of these file names exist as textures in the bhs file.

[simple scaffold]

the right one is the default texture and that isn't what is on the UI in your screen shots.

idk what is going on there. i hate the BHS UI, it was coded by an enthusiastic ameture. and has sooooo manhy issues

xcvb version is much better

[dire barn]

am i able to use that? or would it not be compatible with the mod?

[slow bolt]

obviously not

[simple scaffold]

can xcvb's be swapped in? i forget what secondary bhs mods gamma has

[slow bolt]

not a gamma mod

Xcvb's bhs is not compatible with gamma anyway

[dire barn]

damn

[simple scaffold]

technicly gamma isn't comptable with it since it works fine on base anomaly. it is stuff gamma adds that causes the problem

[slow bolt]

it requires a small bit of tinkering to make it work.
But its not possible to go this route anyway as the mod requires base BHS, not xcvb's version

[dire barn]

it'd probably have to be completely remade huh?

[silver night]

Hey, @orchid agate pointed me to this channel to ask the following question, even though I don't think it has to do with making mods.

Does anyone have a mod they could recommend that would help me sort my inventory better than I can with just the "Favorite" function?

[orchid agate]

ok but why ping me

wtf

[dire barn]

lol

[dire barn]

in the MCM menu there's the sorting plus mod options. you can reorder the inventory categories from there.

[silver night]

Oh awesome, thank you

[orchid agate]

I pointed you to here , because in stalker chat Most people will play default gamma or maybe with like a few additional mods

its legit the better place to ask

even if its not about making mods

silly goose

[simple scaffold]

from the sortingplus ltx you can even add more categories, change what category an item goes into

gamma already has more sorting tabs. that is the only mod other than sorting pluss that does item sorting.

[silver night]

I'll look into that ltx thing, sounds like that's what I'm looking for

[dire barn]

is more sorting tabs enabled by default? i don't think i've seen it yet.

[simple scaffold]

you have to check a box in the SP MCM settings to have it use the ltx categories instead of simple ones in MCM. the ltx actually already has more categories than the MCM setting do.

[simple scaffold]

this guy made a bunch of changes. might save you time. also read the discussion about it before that, might save some questions.

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

basicly i put a power user mode in SP and didn't document it. most ppl are fine with just changing the order of the categories i put in the MCM settings.

[simple scaffold]

+166- New sorting tabs - Bartoche

that says enabled. you might just think that is the normal number tho if you have only ever played gamma

[dire barn]

ah ok. yeah it's enabled. yeah i haven't played the og soc or anomaly. i touched soc once and quickly dropped it.

[little kraken]

does anyone here compile their own monolith and could give me a hand with something?

[simple scaffold]

start with this repo, demonized modernized the build process. that alone might be enough to get you going.

[little kraken]

yeah

I did and it magically compiled without a single error the first time

it's almost unbelievable

like it literally never happened to me in like 25 years as a programmer

[simple scaffold]

well dem is in this server

[little kraken]

ok just a sec

the problem is it boots and I hear sounds and I see the UI but it's all black

[simple scaffold]

i personaly havn't complied it. i tend to sneak my small changes in by asking other ppl nicely. so other than pointing you at dem's repo i can't help too much. althoug i am familiar whith how much of the engge code works

[little kraken]

I think I'm building a debug released

I am not used to visual studio so I wanted to check how to build a normal release (non-debug)

any chance you could mention him here so maybe he answers me at some point later?

or let me know his username

[simple scaffold]

same here as github

[little kraken]

it's probably something stupid but I do all my development on Linux so I have no idea how to deal with visual studio

[simple scaffold]

@steady apex compiler question that goes over my head

[little kraken]

thanks a lot 🙂

[simple scaffold]

last time i ran a C++ compiler it was metrowerks code warrior 4

[little kraken]

there is actually a config called "Release" but it only builds DX9 and this one specifically throws an error when I try to run it

but anyway let's see what happens

ok just to keep it documented here, I actually figured out how to change the "Release" to DX11 and it runs, but again all is black (I see the UI, inventory, etc. and I can hear the steps, shots, etc.)

erhm... ok, I found the log

actually, I was trying to run it with base anomaly before I tested gamma... now I see the executable is looking for shaders

is this not the right repo for base anomaly, then?

[slow bolt]

no

that goes to #╓☢stalker-chat #╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[orchid agate]

🤓

[little kraken]

ahhh got it!! damn I forgot to delete the shader cache, so stupid

@steady apex you're a literal god

[simple scaffold]

technically you won't get a better sorting plus answer there since i only hang out here. 😛

[slow bolt]

He didnt know it existed

[solemn ingot]

you should come hang out in the warfare alife overhaul thread. because we're all very super cool. not because we're idiots and need help or anything.

[slow bolt]

No need to edit it at all. It already works by itself with mcm

[simple scaffold]

the ltx is super user level of control. you could spit outfit parts and weapon parts on to seperate groups, or med categories. i've seen ppl make 20+ lines of items.

[slow bolt]

Lags the inventory sadly. Inventory script in stalker is already ass and take longer to open it each time you do

If only someone solved the intentory lag problem

since save/load fixes it for a bit

[simple scaffold]

really? i do not know what could cause that behavior.

stray item cells maybe? should be able to count them.

[slow bolt]

It gets really bad if you loot a lot of stuff

3s of delay when opening

[simple scaffold]

the lot of stuff thing i actualy might have a partial solution for: asycronous processing of the inventory. it won't make it faster, but it at least won't look the game up.

but yes, the more rows you give SP to put things in the longer it takes to put them there.

[sudden inlet]

Um, is there a place where I can find these commands for getting npc logic info?

[simple scaffold]

they are buttons in the debug menu. i don't use them myself oftain and can't rember what they are exactly (i am not at my gaming pc) but the debug is fairly well laid out. they will run on the npc under your chrosshair

[sudden inlet]

Honestly there are nothing related to npcs
But I found some commands to get their scheme and section and scheme=walker and section=walker@<smart>_walker_5_walk

[simple scaffold]

it's been a while, sorry. get info and the debug hud are probably the two things. and the section and scheame was what i was courious about. the debughud might have more on them.

that is a default smart job, the kind of thing they would fall into if they just walked into an empty smart.

walker should not have them hiding behind cover

if there are enemies near by they shouldn't stay in walker either.

[sudden inlet]

I probably lied about hiding because sometimes they walk and just sit at one place for some time, lol.
From where can I start to understand how npc do select their next scheme?

[simple scaffold]

scheames are listed at the top of this script the link goes to a comment that can help explain some of it.

what i call the default smart jobs are setup by gulag_general.script it reads patrol paths baked into the map and creates job logic from them. so if you can't find an ltx with the NPC'S current logic section then it was probably one made by this script. (if you don't know that it can be very confusing, trust me)

xr_logic.script decides what section an NPC should move to next based on the contents of it's curent section, could be anything. it can also move the NPC to a different logic file.

generic stalkers get handed jobs by the smart, either from the gualg job list or special logic built into the smarts own logic or called out there. such as rookie village has a line in it's logic to capture hip and put her into her custom logic script.

each sheam attached to the NPC has an evaluator and action. if the evaluator is true the npc runs the action code.

with few exceptions NPCs always have the generic schemes attached to them. although the way the evaluators on generic schemes are setup they can almost all be set to skip themselves based on flags set by other logic or game settings. such as xr_combat_ignore evaluates the comabat_igore line in the npcs active section to decide if it should capture the NPC.

combat ignore is the next to last generic scheme if it catchse the NPC it sends it back to the top.
xr_combat is the last and when the NPC should be in combat catches the NPC and can rarely put them into custom combat AI, genraly in anomaly this doesn't happen. and the the script ai evaluators are done and the NPC falls into the engine based AI evaluators, this should only happen when the NPC is in combat resulting in the engine running it's combat AI.

[simple scaffold]

further reading. logic sections have macros based on a format called condlists. (condition lists)

[sudden inlet]

I just glad it's not even more complicated

[simple scaffold]

the AI logic is the most complex thing in the scripts to understand in its entierty. however you can use arx_beh for simple behaviors for quests without understanding how all of it works. just like making a simple fetch quest doesn't require understanding the entier task system.

figuring out why it's broken on the other hand...

i end up trying to trace my way thru the logic (both condlists and script evaluators) by hand because i simply don't remember all of it. i sometimes take notes.

it's basicly a giant state machine. the evaluators attached to the NPC run in order and the first one to trip decides what the NPC will do.

the NPCs state is stored in db.script in a table called storage. there is soooooooo many states tracked in in there it's nuts. i couldn't imagine trying to list them all.

some of the states are actualy condlists that get evaluated. which can make things really complex.

it is both genius and crazy

[tired estuary]

Is there a way to get the voiceline from the game ?

[heady grotto]

any info on progress? Im experiencing the same issue and cannot fix it

[main dove]

hey smart people i was directed to ask this here, is there any way to turn the number of women up percentage wise in the a-life spawns? serious answers only please, i do not care about gatekeeping, its a video game.

[covert pivot]

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message this

Just spam copy those entries but make sure you give them unique ID's, everything else can be the same

[main dove]

i do not do coding for a living or even as a hobby so forgive me but what am i looking at

[covert pivot]

You can also do the reverse and delete the men

It's basically just a textfile of random NPCs to spawn in when the game needs them, you just want to copy-paste the whole:

....
</specific_character>```

The files will be in dux's mod, if you open up it from MO2 and traverse to gamedata/configs/gameplay

[warm dirge]

Has anyone looked to see how hard it would be to add weapons to stalker 2? I've been wanting to make a pass at some caliber changes and possibly add in more variety for 7.62x39 and 5.45

[covert pivot]

I also recommend making a new mod in MO2 and place the files in the short snippet I linked into there (having the same folder structure), so your changes wont get lost once gamma updates and stuff

[main dove]

i dont know what mod you are referring to sadly, i only learned of this dux persons existance about 2 minutes ago as well, is there any steps or install guide?

[covert pivot]

In your GAMMA folder install theres a mods folder and just find the nr 29 mod

thats the mod that adds female stalkers currently into gamma

all of these faction specific general spawn files have female stalkers in them

[main dove]

ill have to do it later, is it alright if i ping you again when i attempt it?

[lethal garden]

Hey, do you guys know what script or ltx affects Aslans patch exchange?

He suddenly no longer accepts 50 patches from me, only a max of 20 now.

[covert pivot]

sure Ill answer when I can, gotta

[main dove]

i have had this issue my entire run this month so far as well

[main dove]

good sleep friend, im sorry im not good at coding lmao

[lethal garden]

He was accepting larger quantities of patches, but now suddenly only 20. No idea.

[fair canopy]

Oleh told you early grok changed that...

[covert pivot]

I might see about creating an addon for duxs character kit to add more women. Itll be just duplicated models at first, but i might look into making new models and maybe find an extra sound set to use (because current project of spending like 10-15 hours per faction taking portraits is mindnumbing)

[main dove]

I just wanted to change the a-life spawns to 50% men 50% women

[covert pivot]

Its a decent amount of manual work to do that because the a-life pools are those character_desc_general files

[main dove]

as long as your cool guiding me, if thats okay, im down.

i just have no idea what im doing when it comes to anything more complex than opening a notepad and changing something or moving a mod into mo2 lmao

[covert pivot]

I have a program to generate those files (if i can find it again) so it would skip manually changing thousands of id entries and stuff

But i think overall it would be nice to expand the number of available models aswell for more variety (and cover factions not yet covered possibly), but thats longer term effort

[delicate ridge]

after i unpacked and edited whatever i need to do in the files, how do i repack it back up to see changes in game?

[naive snow]

If you're talking Stalker 2 > #╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion
If you mean the anomaly unpacked files, those are just for your convenience and reference. The game will load the existing db archives. If you want to override a peculiar file of the unpacked folder, make a mod with the same file structure and replace the file there with your own

[sudden inlet]

Looking for any tip how to enable xrs_debug_tools.script
Looks like it can do a lot but it's hard to figure out how turn on it instead of regular debug menu

[swift gull]

Is anyone aware of any addon that adds a suppression mechanic for when the player takes incoming fire?.

[oak anvil]

Hello, How can i help to finish the French Translation, somebody are working on it ?

[oak anvil]

@fervent fiber : I summon you! If you need help with French translation, just mp me ! 🙂

[glass mauve]

Hi guys

Is it general modding discussion or more gamma-related?

[summer stream]

general

[somber herald]

I want to make a mod that allows exoskeleton frames to be repairable, which they inexplicably aren't. I found items_repair.ltx, but adding the item id prt_o_support_1 to say, for example, the ramrods repairable items' does not seem to work. what am I missing here?

[glass mauve]

I'm looking for some advice for map modding / level art for Anomaly/gamma, where to start?

[summer stream]

oooh lord mighty.

you can try asking raven about that stuff

[glass mauve]

The old guides lead to maya map editing

The Wise Raven? 🙂

[summer stream]

this one

(just please dont spam pings and wait when he answers)

[glass mauve]

Also, maybe you know who works with UI / UX editing here

[summer stream]

(anyone can answer o nit tho)

UX?

also you mean by UI the inventory and other stuff?

[somber herald]

user experience

[summer stream]

its related mostly related to XML

[somber herald]

stalker needs xedit :|

[glass mauve]

Or the tools like PDX has

[summer stream]

[somber herald]

i think i need to add the frame itemid to some list and then add that list to the ramrod, but i have no idea how to find that list

[glass mauve]

Is he also russian?

[summer stream]

ehhh
nope

[glass mauve]

i'm ex Metro Exodus and CP 2077 dev, but i never touched X-ray engine and specifically map modding, everything else looks pretty straightforward to me, except level editor

I wonder if they ever published an SDK like 4A Engine did

[summer stream]

i think they have one

[glass mauve]

TBH i'm so much dissapointed with Stalker 2, that i came back to see what's been cooking in the Anomaly modding, i just heard rumors Anomaly devs had rewrittex Xray to x64

[summer stream]

they do

[covert pivot]

You can check this too https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/mapping/index.html

[glass mauve]

The question is how it's working with Anomaly

[summer stream]

it's an X-RAY

[glass mauve]

O, thank you very much

[summer stream]

anomaly is RELATED forward to COP

basically anomaly is mod to mod

or wait

it's COC

[glass mauve]

ang Gamma is a mod to mod to mod

so now i'm making a mod to mod to mod to mod to mod

sounds perfect.

[summer stream]

yep

enjoy the mess

[glass mauve]

Mess is my life since i went into big post-soviet gamedev

[summer stream]

also just a question out of this whole context, ur polish?