🔨base-gamma-support

[twilit kraken]

@willow hawk may I suggest you create different versions of G.A.M.M.A.?

I'm a newcomer and so far the experience has been tough but overall fair and balanced, but now you're going to make the game even harder with every new update. Would be great to choose from different "difficulty" add-ons. Or at least create some sort of guide to custom the experience a bit

Thanks

[willow hawk]

You can customize everything in game most likely

My plan is not to make the game harder don't worry

just avoid cheesing

and make cooking more important

and this is achieved by reduced prices on fuel, better access to fuel, better access to cooking kits

[north turret]

i am having this same problem

[tacit yew]

Amazing, minotaur really wanted to do that for 3.0, but I don't think he had time to make it

[brisk zinc]

There is a tent in Cordon, it should be on the right before the bridge, check there
Apparently it's RNG but I've always found one there

[lone bough]

Is there a reason that the Unjam button/hotkey wouldn't do anything?
The gun is very low condition, picked it up only to kill a zombie. But then it jammed and won't unjam even if I completely unload.

[gusty path]

is the gun broken. condition and repair are two seperate stats

[wind forum]

double tap f

[brisk zinc]

Or Z

[brisk zinc]

Also this, check your parts conditions, right click on weapon > details
Or just hoover your mouse on it

[timber cave]

does RC2 released?

[brisk zinc]

Not yet

[north turret]

I have 2 mods numbered 105 now. One is anomaly fdda immersion sleep patch, one says same but v0.8.7c.2. Which one is the most recent?

[brisk zinc]

Since (for now) FDDA it's "41-anomaly-fdda" I think the most recent is the first one, fdda immersion sleep patch

@north turret not only that

v0.8.7c.2 it's old, the next one is 0.8.8 or something like that

And now we're on "anomaly-fdda" because #📢announcements, just for now

[hollow apex]

I'm new here, I don't know if this is an issue but when GAMMA is downloading soundscape_overhaul_3.0.zip I've had this "Instructions solving..." freezing here for like 3 hours or so, what should I do? keep waiting?

[brisk zinc]

Take a screenshot, it's not normal

[hollow apex]

this window is totally freezing, no response.

[brisk zinc]

Check this one since it's your first install

If it's stuck you can close it with the task manager, try again

It can also be a Moddb problem, maybe there's something wrong with servers

[hollow apex]

okay, thank you I'll try

[limpid saddle]

Will we have the option to either install RC1 or RC2(and later revisions) in the future? And a documentation of mods too?

[viscid swallow]

FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CScriptEngine::lua_error
[error]File : ..\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
[error]Line : 191
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments : LUA error: e:/anomaly/bin/..\gamedata\scripts\take_item_anim.script:37: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value

How can i fix this?

[warped ginkgo]

enabled the wrong fdda

There is one called 41_anomaly_fdda

[viscid swallow]

got it thankas

Btw anyone know why i can never seem to find enough atrefacts in the dark valley for pirogev

even used a Svarog and still couldn't get all of them

[hollow apex]

it turns out every time GAMMA finishes downloading a single mod, it will freeze itself says "instructions solving" for no reason, I restarted GAMMA and press update, it just went on downloading the next mod as nothing happened...🤣

which also means I have to restart 30-ish times to complete this proccess

but still better than manually. I'm grateful🙏

[gentle sphinx]

can we use the npcs cannot see through foliage mod?

[brisk zinc]

Check around even if you have a location, it could be spawned somewhere else

[brisk zinc]

Really strange

Be careful spamming that update button though, Moddb can block you because you can look like a bot, it's temporary but it can happen

[brisk zinc]

Don't know, i've always thought about that too
Try and see if it works

[viscid swallow]

I've also tried spawning in every artifact but still nothing @brisk zinc

Not sure

[hollow apex]

now GAMMA is downloading this "anomaly_fdda.zip" again and again and again, I don't know how to let it know it has already got this one covered

[willow hawk]

RNG

[willow hawk]

#📢announcements new installer > untick force GitHub download

[obtuse rune]

Is there a way to set an old save's gameplay and difficulty settings to the updated settings without touching the sliders?

[willow hawk]

Nope :(

[obtuse rune]

Darn, onward with the Invictus run then

[willow hawk]

Yes

[willow hawk]

"for no reason" > then will complain about bugs and red crosses

[willow hawk]

It's working don't worry.

What's your toaster ?

[icy oyster]

About radiation, how is a broken looted 10% mask behaving regarding filtering radiation?

Is it fine to go north with a broken one?

As a temporary solution

[willow hawk]

Temporary solution

Or just get anti rads

[scenic turtle]

iirc I yeeted myself over a wall for a quest to get to the hospital part.

[willow hawk]

Yes you can

[scenic turtle]

@willow hawk I saw EFT ammo icons come up a few announcements ago. Is that RC2 or in RC1?

[willow hawk]

I used Cr3pis new ammo icons instead

Which are much better

[scenic turtle]

Fair they are

I just like EFT

[willow hawk]

It uses EFT ammo models

[scenic turtle]

I'm not completely sold on Mags Redux just cause loading mags is insanely slow

[willow hawk]

I don't like mags

[scenic turtle]

If loading mags wasn't such a pain OUT of Combat

I'd use it more often

[willow hawk]

Exactly why I don't like, it breaks the gameflow so much

[scenic turtle]

honestly I'd take a MCM modifier to make it quicker overall than how it is rn

but I also like how I can shove 30 round mags in my VSS Variants now instead of using the 10s or 20s

BTW should any of these disabled addons be turned on or are they optional or broken rn?

[willow hawk]

Foliage is optional

[scenic turtle]

after finally getting MODDB to not block me i have a complete fresh install

[willow hawk]

The rest is broken

[scenic turtle]

trying to launch now

[crimson dune]

@willow hawk hey grok, i noticed u deleted files from GAMMA icons in an update 2 days ago, Removal of ammo icons override. does that mean i should delete anything in my end? i manually update, and i still have those files

[limpid saddle]

There's a tent with campfire on cordon that spawns tools in it, got my basic and drug kit there

[covert kestrel]

uh any idea what i can do about this?

need to deliver the package

[willow hawk]

Ahhh right

I'm mainly preparing everything for RC2 so I don't care much about these because everyone will have to delete mods folder and complete install in few days anyways.

Just do it now ;)

[graceful iron]

thats vanilla anomaly you will have to wait for the npc to decide where he wants to go

he should end up in an area where you can go to him but sometimes that takes a long time in-game

you might want to just do some other stuff instead of waiting around for him

[covert kestrel]

ah aight, he's been there for a couple hours but hopefully the guy moves to dead city or something

[crimson dune]

will rc2 be save game compatible D:

[graceful iron]

yes

[willow hawk]

Yes

[modern fern]

Could use the waiting time to consolidate consumables, and repair items

[fluid jolt]

anything i need to manually enable?

just did a clean install

[knotty quartz]

Is there a way to get the original list of ticked mods on first install? All my mods are currently unticked so I don't know what are the defaults

[strong osprey]

i just put a red dot sight on my shotgun but i cant see the red dot. any way to fix this?

[hollow apex]

thank you but now I'm stuck here when I uncheck those 2 options, what should I do next?🥲

[timber cave]

I did watch klean stream on twitch , he have some animation on knife and the bag pulll he press I nvetory do we have them ?

they look so good i guess is limited only for him?

[willow hawk]

Yes we have it. It's in FDDA. Just tick the option in MCM Menu

It kills the gameflow and it leads to bugs so I disabled the backpack animation by default

[willow hawk]

Did you already installed the pack ?

Like Complete GAMMA install

[hollow apex]

well like I said the "complete gamma installation" freezes right after "Soundscape_overhaul_3.0.zip" and says "Instruction solving..." 🥲 everytime I restart GAMMA it just freeze there doesn't matter those two options checked or not. is that something wrong with my connections?

and when I use "update GAMMA installation" it will go on downloading mods and check integrity but eventually stops at fdda.zip... I think I'll go find another way around like manually🥲

[willow hawk]

Make sure you properly installed the installer in C:\GAMMA RC1 or C:\Modding\GAMMA RC1, then extracted the new installer in C:\GAMMA RC.Grok's Modpack Installer.

Make sure you have enough space on your hard drive.

The updater won't install anything if the zips are up to date.

Screenshot your GAMMA RC1\Downloads folder please

[willow hawk]

what's the size of these files ?

[willow hawk]

ok

[hollow apex]

and yes I have extracted the new installer called "Groks_Modpack_Installer_RC2_v3" prior

and the hard drive is good, still has 500G left

[paper whale]

I haven't played Anomaly>Gamma for about 2-3 weeks (wasn't near my PC). A lot has changed since then. When I download the new installer, move it into the GAMMA Folder and run update, will it work? Or should I rather do a complete new install?
I am asking since a lot of updates have been done lately and maybe they affect more than just the downloads 🙂

[brisk zinc]

You have companions? Maybe one of them took it

Again check your surroundings, I had a quest like that and the artifact was in another place not far from the marker
If you're not sure about it, try loading a previous save and go there directly

[brisk zinc]

Just go there?
What's your problem?

[brisk zinc]

You need to check 105 and 41 and move them, they're the new ones, make sure you don't have the old ones in those places

[willow hawk]

Do a complete install to be sure

[willow hawk]

Just pushed an update to fix this, updating should fix it

[covert kestrel]

npc is out of bounds lmao

[brisk zinc]

Give me a minute, I'm running it now

[willow hawk]

Turn both options off

[brisk zinc]

Too late I should've asked before

[willow hawk]

you can just close the black window during update

[brisk zinc]

I'll run it again (inb4 blocked)

[willow hawk]

Trader destockifier is weird atm

[brisk zinc]

Do I need to delete your anomaly-fdda inside "downloads"?

It got downloaded again, just saw it

[willow hawk]

I updated it, so it's good thing

Force github downloads is good, it's just that if you updated them today, usually you can tick that off

[brisk zinc]

Errors with this one, just now

[willow hawk]

same here

moddb servers I guess ?

[brisk zinc]

Not blocked, lucky me

[willow hawk]

It's available only on 3 mirrors

[brisk zinc]

[willow hawk]

I'm tired of moddb at this point

[hollow apex]

@willow hawk now I am using your full mod list to do a manual download, any tips? like... when I finished I just smack them all in "gamedata" folder right?🥲

[willow hawk]

just smack them all in downloads folder and click complete GAMMA install

as in #old-how-to last message

[hollow apex]

okay thank you

[willow hawk]

The installer doesn't download what's already downloaded and up to date

[brisk zinc]

@willow hawk

EDIT: I thought that "NPCs cannot see through foliage" was good?

[willow hawk]

Tick them yes. But basically you shouldn't

[brisk zinc]

Yes I remembered

I've changed my question for that reason, because you said that we can use that

[willow hawk]

White Ecolog blabla shouldn't be activated

[brisk zinc]

And it's disabled in "GAMMA Disabled", with Stalker Names and Smaller Actor as well

But what about "cannot see blabla"? It's safe to use, right?

[willow hawk]

Yes it's safe

I'll make a GAMMA Optional separator at some point

[gusty path]

tbh, i havent noticed them seeing/shooting me through bushes

[brisk zinc]

I have, that's why I'm asking him

Not just in Anomaly, in every Stalker game I've played

[gusty path]

no worries

[hollow apex]

@willow hawk I've downloaded all the 10G mods manually, restart GAMMA, hit complete install, still frozen and "Instructions solving"

[willow hawk]

anything in the black window?

[hollow apex]

you mean the CMD window? no, all blank

[willow hawk]

what's your CPU usage and disk usage ?

Ctrl+Shift+Esc > Performances > screenshot

[willow hawk]

Oh

antivirus maybe ?

[hollow apex]

nope... I don't use any

[willow hawk]

😦

[hollow apex]

[willow hawk]

You have Windows 10 ?

[hollow apex]

yes

[wind forum]

have you tried running with admin rights?

[willow hawk]

That's the first time i'm seeing this error 😦

[hollow apex]

nope I can try now

[willow hawk]

oh, where is the installer located?

[wind forum]

or i heard sometimes the folder just got wrong access rights

[willow hawk]

try C:\GAMMA RC1

or C:\Modding\GAMMA RC1

don't use program files

windows has specific restrictions about folders in it

[hollow apex]

should I just dump all of the mods into gamedata and hope for the best?

[wind forum]

oh no, don't

you need patches

but yeah where did you put the installer folder?

[wind forum]

hmm local disk already

[hollow apex]

damn I think it's time to buy a new PC🥲 (no)

[wind forum]

have you tried running the installer with admin rights then?

[hollow apex]

yes I already did that

no luck

[wind forum]

damn that's weird

[hollow apex]

maybe the Zone just don't accept me🥲

[ripe spear]

The Zone is saving you

[willow hawk]

No

There are specific instructions for each one of the 220 mod so good luck with that manually

Do you know how to use PowerShell @hollow apex ?

I think there might be a problem with Robocopy

Actually, you can take your Robocopy from Windows/System32/Robocopy.exe and replace GAMMA RC1/.Grok's Modpack Installer/resources/Robocopy_10.exe by yours

Can you open a PowerShell console and write that there and send me the result ?

[System.Environment]::OSVersion.Version

@hollow apex

[hollow apex]

@willow hawk I had no idea what is powershell and what it does, but I found this thing you've mentioned

@willow hawk what should I do with it, copy/paste this into installer/resources ?

@willow hawk I have another tool that shows my OS version though

[graceful iron]

you dont have to ping him so many times

[hollow apex]

sorry, I won't

@willow hawk seems like it's working , there's no freezing anymore

well...I pinged him again, cuz I'm so excited

I copy this "Robocopy" into the resources folder and change its name to Robocopy_10 while renaming pre-existing one

and it worked

now GAMMA is downloading the mods I've missed by hand

[twilit kraken]

Can someone help me finish this quest and get the stash in Garbage?

[hollow apex]

how can I help?

[willow hawk]

Perfect 🙂

[soft root]

I am having problem with the gamma pack

[willow hawk]

For the stash just press numpad 0 and move the camera around

[knotty arrow]

question, wtf are daddy tokens

[soft root]

I installed all the addons but when I click the G.A.M.M.A on desktop I see no addons but Anomaly directory

[willow hawk]

Emergency save

[knotty arrow]

ah tought so

[granite orchid]

Hey so whenever I update how do I know which addons are the old ones and which are the new ones ?

[willow hawk]

bugs during install? Check GAMMA RC1/downloads and GAMMA RC1/mods folders and screenshot them

[willow hawk]

just check their version numbers ?

[granite orchid]

I just activated both and let the 0.8.8 one overwrite because I saw that was newest version in moddb

but yeah idk

[soft root]

@willow hawk they are all here no problems

I feel like I put the portable.txt file on wrong place

[willow hawk]

it should be in GAMMA RC1/

[soft root]

yes it is there

[willow hawk]

Next to modorganizer.exe

boot the modorganizer.exe from there ?

You can try to desinstall ModOrganizer from the WIndows panel: it will remove the global instance and fix your issue: never install global instances of MO2

[soft root]

same thing

ok i'll try

[willow hawk]

otherwise change the path of MO2

[granite orchid]

Grok can u tell me which FDDA I need to use ?

I sent a screenshot above

[willow hawk]

the one that is already ticked

[granite orchid]

both of them werent

when I updated

[willow hawk]

impossible

41-anomaly_fdda

this is the one

(depends when you updated though)

[granite orchid]

Idk man both of em were at bottom for some reason

It was today

so prolly the one

[willow hawk]

Bottom of the load order should look like this

[granite orchid]

Ah nah mine is GAMMA fixes

at bottom

[soft root]

create a portable instance?

[granite orchid]

Will updating again break any saves ?

[twilit kraken]

I know where it is, but the bathroom wall is blocked

Btw thanks for your dedication and taking time to give us a hand

[brisk zinc]

No

[brisk zinc]

The only thing I know is known to break saves it's Mags Redux

[willow hawk]

Yes.

[willow hawk]

No

[weary birch]

hi i have problem. after loading i see nothing. like this

i can open inv and i can shoot but i am blind..

[obtuse rune]

See #│🔧troubleshooting message

[weary birch]

i enter this. next step?

[twilit kraken]

Hey @brisk zinc my man, is the update guide... updated?

Should I download the new installer and update the game according to that guide in #old-how-to ?

[brisk zinc]

Yes, do it, this is the only modpack that in the 99% of the time is safe to update

[weary birch]

i enter and nothing change. any idea?

[obtuse rune]

Did you close and reopen after ?

[weary birch]

now trying

[twilit kraken]

My main concern is that some mods have different versions and I don't know which to tick.

[brisk zinc]

Let me see, take a screenshot

[weary birch]

same problem

[twilit kraken]

Will do once I update it, thanks. Prolly in an hour or so bc I'm at the office rn

[brisk zinc]

Ping when you do it, I'll be here

[weary birch]

[soft root]

@willow hawk ah thanks apperantly I installed the instance wrong

works well now

[weary birch]

may i have black screen if ii have this?

[brisk zinc]

I suggest a clean install

Delete "mods" folder, only that folder, open your GAMMA installer > Update GAMMA data just to be sure > **Complete **GAMMA installation

It's the best and quick way to resolve issues

Then follow #old-how-to step 9 and 10, I don't think you need step 11

[weary birch]

this morning i reinstall all. include anomaly. it doesnt help, i see again this message

[brisk zinc]

Have you disabled any add-ons?

Or put some other one?

[weary birch]

only this

[brisk zinc]

Try with a new save, just to see if the problem persist

[hollow apex]

@brisk zinc Hi boss, GAMMA completed downloading and installing all the mods, and I opened MO on my desktop shortcut but I got a red cross here, do I go back to step 6 again?

[weary birch]

i create another person but my screen is black

[brisk zinc]

Yes, try that but first check here if you're blocked: https://www.moddb.com/

[brisk zinc]

That's strange indeed

[hollow apex]

okay got it, thanks

[brisk zinc]

Let me know if that works, it could be Moddb server fault

[weary birch]

I should probably give up

[brisk zinc]

Never give up, you can do it

[weary birch]

that was my second reinstall

[brisk zinc]

Are you using the new installer?

[weary birch]

i use this

[brisk zinc]

Both of them?

I'm joking, you're using the RC2 v3, right?

[weary birch]

yes

[brisk zinc]

Okay perfect

Still it's strange that thing

Unfortunately I can't help you, I don't know what's causing it
Either you clean install again or wait for Grok at this point

[brisk zinc]

@willow hawk take a look at this when you can, already did a clean install two times, last installer and all, still with a black screen even with a new save
The only add-ons disabled are Sorting Plus, Immersive Sleep and FDDA patch for Immersive Sleep

[weary birch]

thanks for the time spent on me

[hollow apex]

I am fiddling around this the whole day and bumping my head against a wall several times in the process but Don't Give Up Stalker! the ZONE needs you!

[brisk zinc]

We'll find the problem, don't worry

@weary birch have anything at the bottom of your MO2 list?

[frail panther]

Generally speaking, if you update this thing daily, is a new game usually required so you dont run into strange issues?

[brisk zinc]

No

I'm the perfect example of "updating daily"

Still using the same save, no problem, no crashes, no anything

I'm even playing in debug mode, so, you know

The only add-on (that I know of) that cause problems with a save is Mags Redux

[frail panther]

That's the manual mag packing mod right?

[brisk zinc]

Yes IIRC

[brisk zinc]

Seems alright this too

Any red crosses?

[weary birch]

no, no one

[brisk zinc]

Try with an update

Update GAMMA data > Update GAMMA installation

[frail panther]

Everyone once in a while I just blow away the mod directory and let the installer rebuild the game again so I dont have old mod folders

[brisk zinc]

@frail panther speaking of that add-on, if you use it and save it, you can't disable it for that specific save, disable it leads to problems

[weary birch]

waiting

[fast fulcrum]

read in announcements: gamedata/configts/creatures/stalker_nebo_3.ltx should be like this

[weary birch]

i have one question. when i choose this. in console was message that scripts not allowed. mat this a problem?

[brisk zinc]

Yes, it's a problem

[fast fulcrum]

i don't have stalker_nebo_3 😄

[brisk zinc]

@weary birch close directly the command window, open the installer again and allow it
And then again, update

[weary birch]

i am talk about that

[brisk zinc]

Yeah I know, you need to allow it

Update again

[weary birch]

how can i do this?

[brisk zinc]

You already did

Now hit that Update GAMMA data and then Update GAMMA installation

[weary birch]

ok, sry if i cant understand u correctly. eng is not my main language

[brisk zinc]

Don't worry, I can understand you perfectly

[weary birch]

i am updating gamma installation, i will write here after finish

[dapper iron]

How stealth works in gamma? better than vanilla? because theres a mod "stealth 2.0" for it https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/stealth1 and I dont know if its work with gamma or not.

[obtuse rune]

Already in

[dapper iron]

ohhh xd. thanks

[weary birch]

is this ok?

[hollow apex]

yes it seems I always have some trouble downloading this particular file

[brisk zinc]

@weary birch @hollow apex did you check both?

[hollow apex]

yes I did

I'm waiting till it's finished and see if it works this time

[brisk zinc]

It's working then

[brisk zinc]

No it's not, try again

[dapper iron]

how i can minimixe the installer? it cover all my screen and cant do anything else

[granite orchid]

Did the backpack open animation got removed ? D:

[hollow apex]

I'm just using another desktop WIN+TAB

[hollow apex]

I think so cuz I read about that somewhere says it breaks the flow of gameplay sth like that

[granite orchid]

I enjoyed it tbh , only problem of it was that it stopped movement upon opening

Which could probably be fixed

[hollow apex]

in fact I like that concept too reminds me of Metro

[granite orchid]

it just added to immersion. It just feels weird without it now whenever I got used to having it lol.

[harsh frost]

it's just disabled

activate it from the Mod menu

[celest raft]

is it normal for the installer to check the same file multiple times?

[obtuse grotto]

fellas am i forced to update to RC2?

[celest raft]

also, how can I fix these broken mods in MO? i've tried updating through the installer a few times with no success

[weary birch]

i am done

[celest raft]

all 3 are just a folder with a meta.ini currently

[brisk zinc]

No

[brisk zinc]

Yes, you should and you need to for the future, don't worry about your save, it's safe
For now it's just the installer in RC2, not the whole modpack

[brisk zinc]

Now check if your MO2 list it's fine and let me know if you can play

[soft root]

Expression : <no expression>
Function : CInifile::r_section
File : Xr_ini.cpp
Line : 544
Description : fatal error
Arguments : Can't open section 'jar'. Please attach [*.ini_log] file to your bug report

stack trace:

I havet his error as soon as I start a new character

first time tried the game getting this everytime

[brisk zinc]

#│🔧troubleshooting
The Jar issue, try that, seems like it

[soft root]

thank you! i'll try

[willow hawk]

Just tick it in MCM and enjoy the bugs

[willow hawk]

Yes

[knotty arrow]

yeah dont turn it on @granite orchid

otherwise this will happen when you attack stuff to weapons

[willow hawk]

#│🔧troubleshooting set cfg blabla

––––––––

Black and White Flickering screen or total black screen

While in game if everything is black or flickering black and white type in the console:
cfg_load grading_default

[brisk zinc]

Or busy hands

@willow hawk quick question, FDDA it's still your "anomaly-fdda", it's correct, right?

[willow hawk]

Yez

Its the latest version

[brisk zinc]

Perfect, thank you

[tacit yew]

Hey @willow hawk it's normal that mercenaries don't have quest line like freedom?
The merc leader don't offer as many quests as bandit or freedom leaders

[soft root]

sadly did not work

[brisk zinc]

@willow hawk if you can, take a look at this

@soft root in the mean time, send your crash log

[soft root]

Expression : <no expression>
Function : CInifile::r_section
File : Xr_ini.cpp
Line : 544
Description : fatal error
Arguments : Can't open section 'jar'. Please attach [*.ini_log] file to your bug report

stack trace:

[brisk zinc]

Yeah not that one

Let me see where you can find it

Okay should be Anomaly>appdata>logs

[tacit yew]

Let's ask groks to open the jar

Strong guy

[soft root]

found something but not sure if this is the right one

[brisk zinc]

It's the one with your name

xray_yourname.log

[soft root]

oh yes found it

my bad

[hollow apex]

still no go

[twilit kraken]

updating rn @brisk zinc

[hollow apex]

I think it has something to do with this part here, this file alone cost 40 minutes, it first went to moddb and failed after 20 minutes alike, then went to GitHub but still failed, but somehow it passed the check.

[twilit kraken]

btw last time I had to manually install vfx add-on and I'm not sure if I did it correctly. let's see how the load order ends up looking.

[brisk zinc]

Could be
Also check on Moddb if you're not blocked

[hollow apex]

so my next step is go to moddb find this mod, download, and stuff that into GAMMA's download, redo the install right?

[twilit kraken]

while this is installing I had few questions too;

1. can I add custom mp4 files to the game, either to use them with the pda radio or changing the ambient music?

2. I had this issue when entering a new area and sometimes the game just crashes. next time it happens I'll show the log here

[brisk zinc]

https://github.com/Grokitach/anomaly_fdda/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

It should be this one, put it inside "downloads" and try Update GAMMA installation again

[hollow apex]

ok

[brisk zinc]

Try in the options, maybe there's something there
Try in game too, IIRC there's something like "put your custom folder here"

[twilit kraken]

is it done?

[brisk zinc]

Well it says "done"

Yeah it's done

[twilit kraken]

will look into it

[cold ermine]

Just saw the post in #📢announcements regarding the medium_resistance bug, is it possible to fix it on my end quicker so I can resume my previous save? I couldn't find the gamedata/configts/creatures/stalker_nebo_3.ltx file in MO2.

[soft root]

@brisk zinc any fix for this?

[brisk zinc]

Still that .jar issue, I'm sorry but I can't help you :/

We need Grok on this

[soft root]

Okay...

Running the Installation of the mods once again

Apperantly some mods couldn't be downloaded

Like innumerable character addon

[autumn bloom]

Is there any way to rebind zoom from mouse 5? I dont see it listed in keybindings or in the MCM

[brisk zinc]

Always check Moddb when this happen, especially when you have errors in the command window

[soft root]

Allright

[brisk zinc]

The add-on should be "Free Zoom", 168, don't know about the key though

[autumn bloom]

its enabled, I guess it isnt configurable though

[weary birch]

i try this but nothing happen

i reload save, after reload game

and screen is black

[hollow apex]

I download the github link you gave me and I overwrite that into GAMMA's download folder, hit the update install button, but somehow GAMMA just says NO I'm redownloading it

[willow hawk]

It's on GitHub

https://github.com/Grokitach/anomaly_fdda/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

Rename the archive anomaly_fdda.zip

Not anomaly_fdda-main.zip

[hollow apex]

ok

[willow hawk]

I should make a release instead

[twilit kraken]

which is 199 and which is 200?

[hollow apex]

this is in GAMMA's download, so I delete this red one keep the green one you gave me right?

[twilit kraken]

@brisk zinc

[brisk zinc]

Let me see

The new one is Trader Destockifier 8

[twilit kraken]

I also have issues with these

[twilit kraken]

but mags redux is my 201

[brisk zinc]

202 for me

[willow hawk]

Just make sure to untick Force GitHub download

[twilit kraken]

why do you tick all of them?

[hollow apex]

got it

[willow hawk]

Why do you have issues with them is the real question

[soft root]

@willow hawk can you check this file when you available please (downloaded the modified exes but still not working)

[willow hawk]

Just replace GAMMA RC1/profiles/GAMMA/modlist.txt by the GitHub one

[brisk zinc]

It's default

[harsh frost]

check if trader destock was dropped to the bottom of the loadout, it happend to me after the update,

[brisk zinc]

This too

[willow hawk]

https://github.com/Grokitach/Stalker_GAMMA/blob/main/G.A.M.M.A/modpack_data/modlist.txt

But the update should automatically do this for you

You basically have little to do

Update check bottom of load order

[brisk zinc]

@twilit kraken Update GAMMA data > Update GAMMA installation, try this, like Grok said

If the situation doesn't change, delete "mods" folder, open the installer, Update GAMMA data > Complete GAMMA installation

[soft root]

hey falcoman

guess what happened

[weary birch]

grok. it is dont help, any idea?

[soft root]

I also changed the game directory files about the jar bug

now game works somehow

[brisk zinc]

Maybe that was the problem, your directory

[soft root]

probably lol

[willow hawk]

Still black ?

[soft root]

now I wonder why I haven't thought of it before

[willow hawk]

@weary birch can you screenshot your MO2 load order from top to bottom please ?

[hollow apex]

so... this is good to go? Grok, Falcoman my Stalker bud

[willow hawk]

[brisk zinc]

@willow hawk Hannibal is having problem downloading add-ons, now it's Dux, before it was FDDA, maybe now he's fixed that

[hollow apex]

yes I use that github file and rename it, delete the FDDA one with "main" and it worked

[granite orchid]

Are theese new bugs with it or smthin ? And are you planning on bringing it back ? I really loved it myself tbh.

[tacit yew]

how do I change the channel in the RF receiver?

[hollow apex]

isn't dux disabled? but I still need to get rid of that red cross?

[autumn bloom]

Is it possible to turn reshade off?

[brisk zinc]

No Dux is enabled by default

[brisk zinc]

Press HOME while you are in game, see if you can do something there, it opens Reshade options

[brisk zinc]

Right click or left click, one of the two, you need to equip it obviously, it goes in the detector slot

[willow hawk]

#│💻keybinds-in-gamma

[weary birch]

i do all correct?

[warped ginkgo]

bring up only the rf receiver and left click/right click to change frequency

[willow hawk]

Ok it's totally wrong. Replace that file

GAMMA RC1/profiles/GAMMA/modlist.txt by this one

https://github.com/Grokitach/Stalker_GAMMA/blob/main/G.A.M.M.A/modpack_data/modlist.txt

Only the load order is an issue and this will solve it

[brisk zinc]

I think it's because he put "mod name"

And not "priority"

[willow hawk]

Aaaah

[brisk zinc]

See?

[willow hawk]

True true

I'm on my phone

[hollow apex]

I go to moddb download dux and update again see if that will do

[willow hawk]

[brisk zinc]

It's small, I'll give you that

[weary birch]

oh

sry

one sec

[willow hawk]

It seems correct yes. Try deleting your anomaly/appdata/shader_cache folder

And launch the game

[brisk zinc]

Just to be sure

Are you using the new installer?

Maybe I've already asked this question

[brisk zinc]

This is what I don't understand, it's different for me

The first one

[weary birch]

i need to turn on Medical Balance mod?

[brisk zinc]

Did you already deleted "mods" folder in the past?

I don't remember if I've told you to do it

[weary birch]

OMG

LOOK AT THIS

CLEAR SKY

i can see

i am not blind

[brisk zinc]

IT WORKS

[weary birch]

thx u so much

[brisk zinc]

@hollow apex you can do it too!

[weary birch]

u are incredible

@willow hawk u too, thx u so much guys!!

[twilit kraken]

thanks @willow hawk @brisk zinc

[hollow apex]

I'm trying

[autumn bloom]

any mod specific tips for gaining extra performance?

[brisk zinc]

Works for you too? Wonderful

[brisk zinc]

Lower grass, like everything

[twilit kraken]

I meant the previus help 🙂

[autumn bloom]

Way ahead of you

[twilit kraken]

btw should I tick any of these? what do they do?

[brisk zinc]

I tried

I don't even remember if the game works for you (but it should)

[autumn bloom]

With the same visual settings in vanilla anomaly I get a consistent 120 fps, here its more like 90

[brisk zinc]

They're disabled for a reason 😛 (that I don't know)
You can enable the first one though

[autumn bloom]

So im wondering if theres anything I can do in reshade or something to squeeze a few more frames out

Or if this is just how it is

[twilit kraken]

isn't the foliage thing a great idea?

[tacit yew]

yeah thanks, i had the knife in the other hand thats why it was not working lol

[brisk zinc]

Hmm... sun rays? Shadows?

And yeah it's a bit heavy, that's true, but on the other hand we're playing with 230 add-ons, I think it's normal

[willow hawk]

What was the solution ? XD

[brisk zinc]

Yes it is, it's simply disabled (and I don't know if it works), don't know why but it's safe to use
The other ones are not, don't use them

[willow hawk]

#old-framerate-optimisation

Decrease grass and antialasing

And set to your screen resolution

[brisk zinc]

I can confirm that fullscreen is a great solution

[soft root]

@brisk zinc there is an addon named zcp which appears to be modifying the zone population

[brisk zinc]

You can disable it if you don't want to use it

[soft root]

I have new game right now and there are like 288 stalkers in the zone

[willow hawk]

Fullscreen vertical sync off is really good

[soft root]

will the addon increase amount of the stalkers and mutants overtime or I need completely new save

[warped ginkgo]

you can also modify stalker/mutant population in mcm menu for ZCP

[brisk zinc]

@willow hawk this is your stuff

[soft root]

yep I found it but in vanilla version any changes only applied when starting a new game when it is about zone population

[hollow apex]

wait a minute.... I already have one good dux.

this one has the same number

[brisk zinc]

Oh that's why

[brisk zinc]

This is old, delete it

[brisk zinc]

Delete it from your "downloads" folder too

[hollow apex]

delete 11 or 12

[brisk zinc]

11, obviously

[hollow apex]

done

[brisk zinc]

Perfect

Now expand all your mod list

Right click here

So you can see if something is missing or if you have a double add-on like in that case

[hollow apex]

I think I'm good

I can't wait

[brisk zinc]

Let me know

[weary birch]

delete anomaly/appdata/shader_cache folder

again thx u so much!!

[willow hawk]

[hollow apex]

the fresh air of the ZOOOONE!!! cough

[mellow canopy]

181 is unticked when I install or update. Is it normal?

[hollow apex]

@willow hawk @brisk zinc you guys are incredible! you are my savior. I'm gonna name my stash after you and you rest assured I'll feed you with my phat lewt every FKIN day.

[cold ermine]

@mellow canopy normal

[brisk zinc]

Yeah it's normal

[mellow canopy]

Ok so I keep it unticked then

You guys rock

[brisk zinc]

You can use it

It should be safe

[mellow canopy]

ah ok I can tick it also

[brisk zinc]

I mean I'm using it since many updates on the same save

[brisk zinc]

Yeah tick it

I didn't get any busy hands with it

For now the only known busy hands it's the backpack animation

[mellow canopy]

I still don't know which bug you mean by busy hands btw

[brisk zinc]

Basically it's when you're stuck in one animation and can't do anything

Reloading, taking out a gun, quicksave/quickload, open the inventory, use a quick item

[mellow canopy]

Oh, it never happened to me.

[proud glen]

is there any way to make my companion turn his damn headlamp off and stop washing out my NVGs

[mellow canopy]

press c

tell him to go stealth

[proud glen]

well I don't want him to crouch walk everywhere lol

[mellow canopy]

That's the deal I'm afraid

[proud glen]

unfort

[brisk zinc]

@proud glen

Check options

[graceful iron]

turn off the option

[brisk zinc]

Exactly

[graceful iron]

stalkers can use headlamps

[brisk zinc]

That one

[mellow canopy]

Oh there's another way then!

[brisk zinc]

Yeah there is

[graceful iron]

also telling him to stealth does not make him turn off his headlamp

[mellow canopy]

They do when I ask that

[proud glen]

then no other npc in the game will have their headlamp on though right?

[graceful iron]

yes

[mellow canopy]

Ahh that's the catch

[proud glen]

see, also don't want that. it's nice being able to see all the dopes walking around with white lights on

[brisk zinc]

Yeah it's all or nothing

[proud glen]

I'll probably just fire this nerd once I make it back to swamps, he kinda sucks anyway

[graceful iron]

they are good pack mules

you could tell him to stay at one place when you dont need him

[brisk zinc]

True

[proud glen]

actually stealth mode seems to work fine. He sprints to catch up if he falls too far back and keeps his light off

[graceful iron]

i guess i never noticed them turning it off in stealth

dont mind that...

[mellow canopy]

If I want to slow the progress with the skills mod, I need to change the multiplier near zero that's it?

[graceful iron]

yea probably

fastest leveling skill seems to be endurance since its really needed early game for the stamina recovery

[mellow canopy]

I thought it was too fast in fact

But I still don't know how much needed it is

[soft root]

my game has turned completely black

tried the solution in the known bugs part but

it worked once I disabled the visual mods for once then re enabled them now it is still black

[warped ginkgo]

deleted shader cache?

[brisk zinc]

Delete anomaly/appdata/shader_cache folder

It worked for another one, it should work for you too

[soft root]

allright shader cache worked

thanks

[brisk zinc]

[wind forum]

do i have to create the ltx file for gboobs myself?

[brisk zinc]

Try it and let us know

[wind forum]

oh

[brisk zinc]

I guess so btw, Grok didn't update anything (I think)

[wind forum]

yeah not yet

[brisk zinc]

Are you sure about that?

[twilit kraken]

first time I use a daddy save and game crashes

thankfully it saved

[brisk zinc]

Not crashed, it's the function of the mod

Daddy save is like a "I need to quit right now"

[twilit kraken]

whaaaaaat

[brisk zinc]

That's actually true

It's how it works

You can do Shift + F5 for a normal quick save iirc

[twilit kraken]

Good to know

Didn't know you could freely save while underground

[brisk zinc]

Let's say you need to go to work but can't find a campfire, daddy save it's there for you

[twilit kraken]

I did whole Agroproms underground without saving lol

[proud glen]

name makes sense lol. when you remember you were supposed to pick the kid up from soccer practice 25 minutes ago but you're in the middle of nowhere

[twilit kraken]

Is this normal?

[wind forum]

ehhhh i won't touch the stalker_nebo_3.ltx for now cuz i dunno what it originally looks like

[cold ermine]

@wind forum do you have that file in your install? I couldn't find it in mine

[wind forum]

no

[cold ermine]

ah ok

[wind forum]

most likely because it's not touched by the mod

so it's in the game database files

i'm not extracting that shit because i'm running out of space lol

[cold ermine]

what tool would you recommend for extracting?

[graceful iron]

what have you been doing? getting shot at while killing boars or what?

[graceful iron]

7zip

winrar seems to have issues most of the time with anomaly files

[cold ermine]

I meant extract files from game database

[obtuse rune]

There's a batch file to do that in tools

If you want to look at original files

Otherwise if you want to copy from how MO2 setups up the folder you can change from launching the game to explore virtual folder

[proud glen]

is it just me or does anyone else's game sorta start to unravel after a few hours of playing? tooltips not loading on the PDA or getting stuck, saves causing a really concerning stutter that makes me think "PLEASE don't crash," other minor weirdness

[graceful iron]

that could be overheating hardware

it used to happen to me on my old pc

[proud glen]

my PC is brand new and runs everything very well

[graceful iron]

i could barely run anomaly on that

[graceful iron]

oh idk then

[warped ginkgo]

well, saves always stutter for me

but they are very very short stutters

[tacit yew]

yeah that happens to me, in EFP too (other modpack too)

[proud glen]

they're very very short when I first fire the game up but after 2 or 3 hours of playing they get concerningly long

I suppose it's just part and parcel of playing a very heavily modded game

[tacit yew]

seems a memory leak

yep

[proud glen]

playing heavily modded bethesda games etc have similar issues. just wanted to make sure it's not isolated

[wind forum]

yeah i have to restart the game every hour or so

[twilit kraken]

how can I fix this water? it happens during the day too

[tall charm]

was the ones who added the toz-106 the creators of BAS?

i think they are

thought not too sure

@willow hawk would you know what addon on the list changes the aim view of the carrabiner? is it EFT Weapon reposition?

[full hound]

is there a way to disable the bluriness when aiming with a gun? By the way, thank you @willow hawk for this wonderfull mod pack.

[obtuse grotto]

hey does anyone know a fix for using the bolt

I can't seem to pull the bolt out

totally fresh install, still on RC1

almost all addons are included as well

pressing bolt makes it so that I cannot pull any other items out

[rustic comet]

@willow hawk i don't think you can add ghen add-on for next build, it edits engine

with 1.6 stuff

but if you do that i'm gonna fucking cum

[willow hawk]

I made one myself

[willow hawk]

I just need engine diff file then me or Demonized can be build exes with all engine patches

[tall charm]

is it ingrained in the game or is it an addon by chance?

[willow hawk]

#📎mods-added-for-next-build

[wind forum]

oh yeah and grok, just because you're here :P do we create the nebo ltx file ourselves?

[rustic comet]

Demonized already said he can't

[willow hawk]

I'm going to bed and post the fix tomorrow in GBOOBS

[wind forum]

ahhh ok, no problem, thx

[willow hawk]

Because I also need to update it to the latest DICK models

So I will do a 2 in 1 update for GBOOBS Then update GAMMA modlist.txt

[willow hawk]

Well I can but I need the git diff files from Tronex

(and I need to install VS2015)

[mellow canopy]

In Fanatic's easter egg quest at the beginning, the stash is now empty. I understand it's not a bug, and not important anyway. Just did it again and there was a medicine inside

[warped ginkgo]

Disable depth of field

[mellow canopy]

And the "new" get rich mission from Sidorovich sends me to Mangun instead of Beard?

[tall charm]

its always random

never set

[graceful iron]

you have not played through these "get rich missions" enough

🙃

its random everytime

[mellow canopy]

oh ok ! Still discovering indeed !

[wind forum]

do you actually get rich from those?

[mellow canopy]

Have radioactivity zones been toned down in the cordon ? Near the newbie artifact zone (Fanatic) or the bridge north of rookie village?

On second thought I have a better armor compared to last time. Might be that

[graceful iron]

northern ones are supposed to be more dangerous but idk about the cordon ones

[tacit yew]

Anyone knows how to use Ball Artifact?

[graceful iron]

just stay away from the main road

[twilit kraken]

where is actually the green stash near librarian?

I swear I cannot find it even using 0

[brisk zinc]

Update your installer

And check if you have ticked add-on 95

[obtuse grotto]

I don't even have addon 95 in the list

it skips it

[brisk zinc]

Like I said, update your installer, your save will be fine

Updating the installer it's pretty much necessary

[cold ermine]

check the pinned messages in #old-bugs I've made a small mod that seems to fix it

[wind forum]

you sure the path is correct?

just haven't seen those folders before

[warped ginkgo]

F

The F key

[cold ermine]

yeah, I unpacked Anomaly's game database and searched for the file

[warped ginkgo]

if you didnt change anything

[wind forum]

ahhh ok, thx!

nice job

[tacit yew]

ty

[twilit kraken]

Found it. I swear I'm going to slaughter every Clear Sky I see. That box was almost impossible to get

[modern fern]

What’s good will even good for? Personal ego? Also, is handling how quickly the weapons sites return to normal following recoil?

[warped ginkgo]

Unlocke trader supplies

[proud glen]

is there any way to turn off or reduce the frequency of the yawning sound effect

like yes, i get it, it's evening. i'm in base, trying to maintain my gear and actually get tired enough so I don't early wake up at 2am again for the 3rd consecutive day and dude is just loudly yawning every 10 seconds

[tacit yew]

Why i cannot go to northern limansk?

there is an invisible wall

[warped ginkgo]

Probably theres another path

[tacit yew]

nop

maybe i have to disable brain scorcher first

[full hound]

Thanks!

[runic parrot]

I have 1000+ reputation of Duty, but don't have any armor in the merchant's assortment. It's work correctly?

And second question - which traders can buy my armor and guns?

[proud glen]

armor and guns are not buyable or sellable at all in GAMMA.

[frosty acorn]

Not unless you untick the GAMMA economy module, i would reccomend Trader overhaul and Trade destockifier if you want a similar limiting experience to Gamma

[tacit yew]

And I think they are too hard to repair, it's dumb to mass dismantle guns just to have the chance to have a component with +60% quality

[wind forum]

you can be like me and just raise the max condition of guns you loot

so that there is a chance you get a decent enough gun, but still a chance that the gun is in trash condition

i thinnk it's fairer this way

[tacit yew]

Yeah but internal parts will still be broken

[wind forum]

i don't think so, it seems the internal parts are linked

but at least you can sell the guns even if the internals are broken

if you have gamma economy unticked

[runic parrot]

Sad
So, if want some cool duty armor, i need to be blessed by gods of luck and find some (a lot) of stashes
Or take a half of Rostok guardians as a mate with this armor to have a liiiiittle chance to loot armor from his corpse?

(and i'm a looser, who lost freedom's "Rhino" exoskeleton, cause run from radioactive zone too fast)

[tacit yew]

Just looted ak12 monolith, worth repairing?

[runic parrot]

In vanilla anomaly AK-12 is a veeery nice gun
But here - idk. If you don't have anything better, then fix it

[wind forum]

it's more accurate than the ak-74s you'll find for the most part

[nocturne merlin]

whats all these blanked out lines

can i delete them?

[twilit kraken]

I also did this. We are modding a mod, you're not obliged to play by the book. Just play whatever is fun to you.

[modern fern]

Can someone please explain handling in weapon statistics.

[warped ginkgo]

i think ir doesnt do much if i dont remember wrong

some stats of weapon dont work un anomaly

i think

[twilit kraken]

Now that I think of it, I ticked helicopters on but so far I haven't seen any

any mod blocking this?

[midnight shard]

Is it safe to disable USEC and BEAR voicelines for Mercs and Duty? I get a cringe when i hear it in STALKER. And what about Tarkov footsteps sounds?

[wind forum]

also have this issue

[tacit yew]

wtf

[obtuse rune]

Bandits don't like ecos

[brisk zinc]

#old-how-to

[tacit yew]

yeah but its stupid, i earned 40 rep for ecologist but lost 26 to bandits

[obtuse rune]

Vanilla task thingy

[brisk zinc]

No you can't, those are failed downloads, you're probably blocked on Moddb, check the site

[nocturne merlin]

ahhh yeah that was it.

[brisk zinc]

You're blocked?

It's temporary, don't worry

[nocturne merlin]

oh yeah this was from the other day.

but after an update and install those rows are still there

my assumption is i have the files now but those are just there still

[brisk zinc]

Are you on the last version of the installer?

[nocturne merlin]

i was, i updated it a few mins ago

[brisk zinc]

Perfect

So, now you're **not **blocked, correct?

[nocturne merlin]

ye

i'm not blocked

[brisk zinc]

Okay

Do this

Delete "mods" folder

[nocturne merlin]

[brisk zinc]

Don't worry, you're not gonna download everything again

[nocturne merlin]

i'm assuming mods is a reference to the download data with config

and installing will reconfig everything?

[brisk zinc]

Yeah something like that

It's because your MO2 list is messed up

We're gonna do a "clean install"

[nocturne merlin]

doing an install right now and this is also popping up

ill let you know once it's finished.

[midnight shard]

How to update mods in GAMMA launcher?

[brisk zinc]

You have something already in your "downloads" folder, the installer will take those add-ons and install them
What you don't have now will be download

[twilit kraken]

let's see if someone can help us

[twilit kraken]

#old-how-to

[brisk zinc]

First, make sure your installer is updated: #📢announcements message

Second, open your installer, Update GAMMA data > **Update **GAMMA installation

Not COMPLETE, UPDATE

[midnight shard]

Thx

[nocturne merlin]

oh no the mods folder actually had the mods in it tho

it's trying to delete over 20gb

lol

[brisk zinc]

You need to delete it BEFORE for a "clean install", I've told you...

[nocturne merlin]

oh im pretty sure i have all the mods

and everything works and stuff

[brisk zinc]

You have it inside "downloads", don't worry

I mean, part of it, since you're having all that red crosses

[nocturne merlin]

ok ima just yolo delete this mods folder then fuck it

[brisk zinc]

Yeah do that, what we need to do is remove those red crosses by downloading what you're missing inside both "downloads" and "mods"

And to achieve this, just to be sure that you have everything, "mods" folder need to be deleted

[nocturne merlin]

ahh i get it

[brisk zinc]

Keep "downloads", delete "mods"

[nocturne merlin]

it's incorrectly assuming that the partially downloaded things in mods is downloaded

[brisk zinc]

Yeah, by delete that folder you simply put everything inside again, like a clean install

Because you already have mods inside "downloads"

The other missing mods will be downloaded

So, after you delete your "mods" folder, since you already updated your installer

Open it

[nocturne merlin]

and then install gamma

[brisk zinc]

Yes

Update GAMMA data > **Complete **GAMMA installation

Check this two, you need them

[nocturne merlin]

oh fuck i don't have those checkboxes

[brisk zinc]

It's okay, don't worry

We can do it a second time

By praying Moddb servers

Hoping they don't see you as a bot

[nocturne merlin]

oh i just cancelled it

i probs don't have an update i need if i don't have those checkboxes

i also deleted mods again

[brisk zinc]

@wind forum write it in #old-bugs, tomorrow Grok will see it

[brisk zinc]

Okay perfect

[nocturne merlin]

maybe i should be setting up this directory with source control from the projects git?

[brisk zinc]

No you don't need to get technical

It's a matter of two clicks, don't worry

[nocturne merlin]

where the heck are those checkboxes

[brisk zinc]

Are you sure you are on the last version of the installer? #📢announcements

[nocturne merlin]

nope apparently not. ill figure that out first

shouldn't be too hard

[brisk zinc]

No it's not, you simply need to replace a few files

[nocturne merlin]

[brisk zinc]

[nocturne merlin]

ok now ill do those things

[brisk zinc]

Yes

Delete "mods" folder, check two boxes, pray

[nocturne merlin]

i wonder what update installation vs complete does under the hood

[brisk zinc]

The good thing is that it's been a few minutes since you last updated... so... maybe we're in the clear

[brisk zinc]

"Update" is just a check to see what have been updated, if it founds something new, it will download it, it's only that

"Install" will extract, move and install everything from scratch

It's useless if you have already done everything

It's used mostly if you, Moddb, MO2 or even Grok screw up something and it's the best way to actually fix everything

[nocturne merlin]

when you say install you mean complete right

[brisk zinc]

Yeah, "Complete GAMMA installation"

Since Moddb is on the lookout if you hit their server many times in a row and you can be blocked, we try to avoid "complete" everytime

We only use it if it's really necessary

[nocturne merlin]

i gotcha. the force github download thing. there's alternative git repos for each of these mods?

[brisk zinc]

I really don't know, that's Grok stuff, I'm only "prepared" on the installer side of things

[nocturne merlin]

gotcha. You're all doing the lords work

ok it looks clean. I'll try running it

hmm crashes on game load or new game in the loading menu.

[brisk zinc]

CTRL + V here

[nocturne merlin]

Expression : <no expression>
Function : CScriptEngine::lua_error
File : ..\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
Line : 191
Description : fatal error
Arguments : LUA error: c:/anomaly/bin/..\gamedata\scripts\arti_jamming.script:895: attempt to index global 'custom_functor_autoinject' (a nil value)

stack trace:

[brisk zinc]

A new error even for me

[nocturne merlin]

QA legend

[brisk zinc]

Check your MO2 list, is everything alright?

[nocturne merlin]

this is a little strange

hmm

[brisk zinc]

Expand everything

It's normal when you do a clean install

[nocturne merlin]

it didn't do it all

[brisk zinc]

Oh okay I see the problem, you don't have mods

[nocturne merlin]

[brisk zinc]

Hmm...

Any errors inside the command window?

[nocturne merlin]

no. when i stopped the launcher it wasn't doing anything and there was no launcher freezing, so i just assumed it was done

so ill try again and report any weirdness

[brisk zinc]

Check Moddb first

Just to be sure

[nocturne merlin]

already did

they still haven't caught on

[brisk zinc]

Hm, okay, that's good

Try again and let me know

[nocturne merlin]

will do

[brisk zinc]

It could really be just Moddb servers at this point

Unfortunately they do that sometimes

[nocturne merlin]

so i jump right into complete gamma installation, skipping update gamma installation?

[brisk zinc]

Well you could try Update GAMMA installation at this point

Just to be sure, did you did this before?

[nocturne merlin]

at some point

[brisk zinc]

Do it now

It's safe

You only need to do it once, for now

And you need to do it when Grok update something

[nocturne merlin]

so right now it's checking it against currently downloaded zips, which make sense

[brisk zinc]

Yes, it's normal

If you DON'T have something, it will download and install them

[nocturne merlin]

ahhh alright, that's good to know

wouldn't update be functionally the same as complete if you delete your mod folder?

[brisk zinc]

Exactly what I was writing

Same thing, same functionality, it only change WHEN you do WHAT

[nocturne merlin]

okay this is where it's at right now

launcher isn't frozen

[brisk zinc]

No it's done

See? "Done"

[nocturne merlin]

oh it used to have an installation complete thing at the end

[brisk zinc]

Yeah, there still is

When you do the "complete"

[nocturne merlin]

oohh

[brisk zinc]

Don't know why there isn't when you update

[nocturne merlin]

ok, so now i did the update thing

[brisk zinc]

Yes

Open your GAMMA now

[nocturne merlin]

mod organizer/?

[brisk zinc]

Yes of course

There is GAMMA and GAMMA Installer

[nocturne merlin]

i just have this

oh i have a shortcut

[brisk zinc]

...yes

I thought it was obvious

Open your MO2 list, okay now?

[nocturne merlin]

ty

so it shows the same mods installed

[brisk zinc]

Nothing changed?

[nocturne merlin]

yeah it doesn't seem like it

[brisk zinc]

Hmmmmmmm

I wonder

Two things

1. your path of installation

2. This

You don't need it "now", just wondering if you did it at some point

[nocturne merlin]

i did it before i replaced the files

surely it couldn't hurt to click it again

[brisk zinc]

No it doesn't

[midnight shard]

Anybody had such shadows bug? How to fix?

[brisk zinc]

What about this? Mine (for example) is C:\STALKER G.A.M.M.A. RC1

It's inside C: and it's good there

[brisk zinc]

What do you mean with "shadows bug"? I can't see almost anything

[midnight shard]

Open screenshot. There are square shadows and idk how to fix this

[brisk zinc]

Yeah that's fine

[nocturne merlin]

also for the game

[brisk zinc]

Perfect

[brisk zinc]

Okay now I see them, I don't know what to tell you, I think it's normal
It's a new game? It seems the place where you spawn in Cordon

I can try to see if it's the same for me

[nocturne merlin]

oh complete seems to be filling them in

[midnight shard]

It wasnt like that before i updated mods via GAMMA launcher

[brisk zinc]

Yes it needs to do that

[midnight shard]

And ye, this is new game. Cordon

[brisk zinc]

Just tried it, I have it too

I think it's just a question of gamma and brightness

In my game it was so dark I couldn't even see it

So, I guess, humble opinion since I'm not a modder, not a bug, it's just how it is

[midnight shard]

Got it