#🔨base-gamma-support
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Hi, I have an issue and I'm looking for a fix. But first.. If I'm in the wrong place, let me know as I'm new to the game and the server.
Yesterday I installed the game for the first time. I used all the steps from the how-to and at the game initially seems to work fine. However, in the three sessions that I've tried playing it, I experienced what I think is my PC sound crashing completely. Once, right from the start of the game my sound was disabled to the point that I had to restart the PC to restore it. Twice, this crash happened after about 10 minutes of playing GAMMA with sound. After quitting the game and returning to Windows 10, all sound was completely gone even though I was still using the right original (right) output settings and devices. Any help?
!move
KEEP IN MIND AND REMEMBER THAT USING THE FOLLOWING FOLDERS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR ANOMALY AND GAMMA, DON'T USE THEM.
Desktop, Downloads, Documents One Drive, Documents, Program Files/Program Files x86
DON'T. USE. THEM.
DON'T.
Moving G.A.M.M.A.:
- Open your GAMMA folder and ONLY delete the "
mods" folder you'll find inside. Leave the rest untouched, you don't need to delete anything else - Move your GAMMA folder to the new location
- Run the installer as admin, click on
Download G.A.M.M.A. dataand then onFull G.A.M.M.A. installation.
Moving Anomaly:
- Move the folder to the new location
- Open MO2
- Click on the
green and blue gearsicon to manually edit the new .exe paths of your Anomaly folder
Lmaooo MO2 snitched them out
Mo2 Doesnt lie
You don't need friends you only need MO2
CTD while wearing Nomad armor.
FATAL ERROR
[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CModelPool::Instance_Load
[error]File : ..\xrRender\ModelPool.cpp
[error]Line : 120
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments : Can't find model file 'anomaly_weapons\hands\wpn_hand_nomad.ogf'.
reinstall mod 23 -THap rework
find it in Mo2
right click it and then reinstall mod
Inb4 how to reinstall
will do, i know mo2
OH THANK GOD
so Imma gonna put it the pictures folder, thats fine right?(after following the given steps)
FATAL ERROR
[error]Expression : sz < (tgt_sz - 1)
[error]Function : IReader::r_string
[error]File : FS.cpp
[error]Line : 467
[error]Description : Dest string less than needed.
know !string didnt help
Ive literally gone insane yesterday trying to explain mo2 GUI
My brother dont use protected system folders
!dest
You'll need to delete your Anomaly folder.
- Open your Anomaly folder, if you have any save files you want to keep, take them from this folder:
Anomaly\appdata\savedgames - Delete your Anomaly folder
- Extract a clean Anomaly folder (VERSION 1.5.2 IS THE ONLY SUPPORTED VERSION FOR GAMMA, if you don't have it yet, type and send
!152in #🤖bot-commands) - Run the installer as admin and make sure you have the latest version: 3.8 (If you don't have it, grab it here: <#📢announcements message>)
- Click on
Download GAMMA dataand then click onFull GAMMA installation

You angered the Anomaly Gods
HI, can you help me with crash after Run from MO2
FATAL ERROR
[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CInifile::Load::<lambda_3825c94a055ba8c00128a7b281b7aba5>::()::<lambda_3d4a39a1d3dc54b79c825d008d7a2fb1>::operator ()
[error]File : Xr_ini.cpp
[error]Line : 352
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments : Duplicate section 'anm_base_hud' wasn't marked as an override. Override section by prefixing it with '!' (![anm_base_hud]) or give it a unique name. Check this file and its DLTX mods: d:/games/anomaly-1.5.2/bin/..\gamedata\configs\system.ltx, mod file items_qm_knifes.ltx
i don't know it's a bug or not.. but too many mutant species on 1 spot, feels weird -_-, feels like playing final fantasy/RPG games.. is this a bug ?
well i guess im screwed, im on a laptop and now i dunno where the folders can go
C/Anomaly for the game
C/gamma for gamma
or even better
C/Games/Anomaly
C/Games/Gamma
To install both anomly and gamma can I just delete the folders?
Worked, kudos
!delete
If you really need to delete everything because you're having problems: #╭📖faq message
My brother in Allah, just use any drive you have. You have every possible location, just NOT desktop, users and everything in it, Program Files, Program files x86, Windows, etc etc
Stay out of windows folders and you'll be fine
True chads install it in Windows/system32
We don't want to play the game, we want to make a point! viva la revolution!!!
I want to boot into gamma not windows
Every save I load now I spawn with no health or limb health. At the same time for some reason with this error I also don't get Items from disassembly, not even a message.
You have an earlier save to load?
Monsieur I am afraid that is busyhands
I did load earlier saves before and that worked
is there a way to retain MCM and normal settings before updating/installing? so I can re-apply it after to avoid losing all my customizations
But now that save has it too for some reason
!backup
"Why does every update completely reset my keybinds/my settings/my mods/my stuff in general?"
G.A.M.M.A. has a default mod list to make sure everyone has the same things, everything goes back to default when you update or you do a complete installation, it's normal.
You can backup your keybinds and mod settings following this guide: #╭📖faq message
thank you
Well im afraid that save is bricked
Can it be the saves when now they all suddenly don't work? Even ones from hours ago I used to restore don't work
They just suddenly load in with the error
how do i escape the 100rads bar after fast travel?
Try disabling item animations and try but most likely the save is gone
Just putting this here for future searches people do:
Solution to bloodsuckers from "Phantoms in the Dark" in Army Warehouses not spawning at the target location:
- Enable Debug mode
- Hit F7 in game, choose Object Spawner
- Check Spawn at smart terrain
- Fill out these settings:
Spawn by section: special_bloodsucker_task_squad Select level: I07_military/ Select smart: mil_smart_terrain_4_2/ - click "Spawn".
Solution to bloodsuckers from "Night Terror" in Truck Cemetery not spawning at the target location:
- Enable Debug mode
- Hit F7 in game, choose Object Spawner
- Check Spawn at smart terrain
- Fill out these settings:
Spawn by section: special_bloodsucker_task2_squad Select level: k02_trucks_cemetery// Select smart: trc_sim_9/ - click "Spawn".
OK thank you @narrow sparrow
press numpad 0 go move somewhere and then press Enter
ha! ok
Hi, I have an issue and I'm looking for a fix. But first.. If I'm in the wrong place, let me know as I'm new to the game and the server.
Yesterday I installed the game for the first time. I used all the steps from the how-to and at the game initially seems to work fine. However, in the three sessions that I've tried playing it, I experienced what I think is my PC sound crashing completely. Once, right from the start of the game my sound was disabled to the point that I had to restart the PC to restore it. Twice, this crash happened after about 10 minutes of playing GAMMA with sound. After quitting the game and returning to Windows 10, all sound was completely gone even though I was still using the right original (right) output settings and devices. Any help?
Seems like a windows issue not Gamma
Gas mask breathing sounds are suddenly gone for me after the last update, anyone know how to turn them back on or what mod its in?
!stutter and #old-framerate-optimisation
- Update G.A.M.M.A. to the latest version (open the installer with admin rights, click on
Update G.A.M.M.A. dataand thenFull G.A.M.M.A. installation) - Bring your modlist back to default (type
!defaultin #🤖bot-commands) - Enable the "
Turn this on if you stutter" mod in your MO2 (you can found the mod under theG.A.M.M.A. Fixesseparator) - If you have a NVIDIA GPU, you can enable
Triple Bufferingin NVIDIA control panel - Open Anomaly Launcher via MO2 and tick
Prefetch sounds - If you have a beefy GPU, use
Anomaly (DX11)
thanks
Look in the base game's settings
Why my rank develop so slowly? I killed plenty of stalkers and still novice
I turned off limit fast travel and turned on death animations and agressor reshade and it dropped my fps and caused stuttering so I turned them off and the fps is still low and stuttering is still a big issue even with the "turn this on if stuttering" mod is active. Is there any way I can fix this? Even turning down my graphics doesn't change a thing.
Mostly comes from mission and tasks as far as i know
anyone having an issue where placing a stone flower artefact inside a LLMC crashes the game?
done, Jupiter travel still crashes, whether being led or fast traveling. haven't tried walking into
delete common squads from the debug and try again
Seems to be triggered by GAMMA though. (Never happened before.) Should I look elsewhere for a fix?
Go to Mod Config Menu
find the Perk artefacts mod
enable allow artefacts in containers
try this
Does the screen flash black or anything?
Nothing.. sound just suddenly stops.
have you changed anything in here?
Hi ,just a quick question, what is the maximum resolution supported atm ? I'm running it at 5120x1140 and the minimap seems a bit broken
the game supports whatever you have the mods go up to 1440p i think
Oh man. I have to adjust igi tasks to get reasonable reputation
its already enabled for my friend (asking for them not myself)
Okay 🙂 I'll try to tweak the minimap, it's a bit broken atm 😛
Does he have any extra animations enabled?
well..i moved it to the c folder, did as u said and as the carl-bot said and still same problem
What was the error?
Hi guys! Once in a 2 - 3 hours got that king of CTD on changing location
@narrow sparrow Still does not work, outfit / armor conditions still only drop at nearly broken instea dof 100% like what i have set here so its still not taking hold.
he has bag animations enabled, but when he places any other artefact in a LLMC its fine
!fdda
This command is specific for a specific kind of crash, but it's good in any case to remember an important lesson:
If you enabled ANY FDDA animation, turn them all off.
Yes I'm talking about backpack, crouch, mutant loot and items pick up. It's causing your crash. I don't care what you think it is, it's FDDA. Turn that shit off.
The only thing you can keep enabled is the first option: Enable FDDA animations
ok will relay advice
Dont know, the mod might installed wrongly or its something else entirely.
Does anyone know how to do the 21:9 Scope fix? i saw someone fiddling with it but cant find it
Well at this point i have done EVERYTHING i can possibly do, so i guess its up to the modders to figure this 1 out because clearly the Settings are non-functional.
Thank you very much that worked!
i might be dumb, but how do i change the frequency on the RF reciver?
put gun away, left or right click, shift + click to change by 10
Go to anomaly/appdata/logs and delete everything in there and run the game
Also Weapon conditions settings are working just fine its only the outfit conditions. that is not working.
ah thanks
could be the mod then
alg
either reinstall mod or the mod is just internally screwed?
am i able the play warfare . is it enough stable ? . whats with warfare addon ( is it stable )
Try reinstalling it if it doesnt work there is nothing we can do
ITs unstable and buggy. No support is given for it
Does anyone know how to do the 21:9 Scope fix? i saw someone fiddling with it but cant find it
try this mod
thanks man, it working now, i will let ya know if I run into any issues
thank you ✌️
there is no prob in deleting the logs right? i ran into the prob again and i deleted the logs and it worked properly afterwards
like it wont ruin my saves right?
No, the engine is just being weird
thanks man, i freaked out when it happened after all we did before so i deleted the logs again and it works
I need some help, it keeps crashing when I try to launch the game, 310 mods installed and I have updated GAMMA data and done a full installation 3 times already, everything extracted with 7zip and its updated to 1.5.2
you are missing mods
keep doing 2 full installs per hour until you reach #📍577-mods-in-mo2
**Getting this error in two different spots in darkscape **
FATAL ERROR
[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CModelPool::Instance_Load
[error]File : ..\xrRender\ModelPool.cpp
[error]Line : 120
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments : Can't find model file 'dynamics\vehicles\veh_zaz968\part\veh_zaz968_u_01_part0.ogf'.
stack trace:
!dest
You'll need to delete your Anomaly folder.
- Open your Anomaly folder, if you have any save files you want to keep, take them from this folder:
Anomaly\appdata\savedgames - Delete your Anomaly folder
- Extract a clean Anomaly folder (VERSION 1.5.2 IS THE ONLY SUPPORTED VERSION FOR GAMMA, if you don't have it yet, type and send
!152in #🤖bot-commands) - Run the installer as admin and make sure you have the latest version: 3.8 (If you don't have it, grab it here: <#📢announcements message>)
- Click on
Download GAMMA dataand then click onFull GAMMA installation
Did anyone find a fix for disabled PDA/bodies search/companion wheel bug?
I'm in a place where I can't really save the game and reload and I don't want to wait for 5 minutes every time it happens (it happens pretty often 😐 )
Bruh. Not agian
seems it cannot find a vehicle - zaz968
Does anyone have any tips for playing on a widescreen monitor (5120x1440 native). I get some weird streching (like major zoom in) at the corners.
Problem: I download gamma according to the instructions, when installing addons (full GAMMA installation), only 229 mods are downloaded, what should I do?
is this your asepect ratio?
yes ty. Will try it out
its in newly added adons
im sure theres more steps to it than that
I think we are missing very important animation options over here.
Follow the instructions to the letter
Nothing of value was lost
Okay dumb question probably, but certain ammo types are only in venders either by your own rank aka im guessing via main quests and from goodwill correct?
I completely followed all the steps, even watched a youtube video on installation, but I still can't download all the addons
ive updated it now and it now crashes befor the game even opens
what could i do now
Yeah, tho that was cool to see how you stab boar with knife to the lungs... 😄
yes, and some only sell russian shit, other sell nato ammo, some do both
Keep doing 2 full installs per hour until you get the mods
Those animations ruined saves thats why they got yeeted
yeah kinda figured that was the case, cause i have an M4 and been trying to find who sells me the ammo for it lol
!k98 the steps below
- Go in this folder:
GAMMA RC3\.Grok's Modpack Installer\G.A.M.M.A\modpack_patches - Copy these three folders (check pic)
- Go to your Anomaly folder
- Paste these three folders (check pic)
- Overwrite/replace all if asked
It won't delete your save files.
Here is a picture for reference: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012510897136222293/1013951079538495528/k98.png
freedom, go to army warhouses, they all have nato stuff
gotcha
Hi everyone, LOVE the mod. I did have a quick question though. I want to tweak some values and settings for the survival elements but there seems to be limited options in the gameplay section, and nothing pertaining to those in the mod config menu. Is there a config file somewhere I can mess with?
what did you wanna tweak?
assuming they also sell the 338 federal then too?
One was hoping to make where you could and could not sleep a little more flexible, second make it possible to sleep even when you have a little radiation, and perhaps fine tune the needs degredation speed
dunno off the top of my head, certain things are rank locked, like leveling upo that faction, so that ammo might be
right well i'll investigate for sure, thank yah
dunno about fine tuning radiation but you can disable the sleep mod in the mod organiser
I noticed that the mod listed as 209 - Death Animations, instead links to Stealth 2.1.2, is this an error?
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/stealth1
@willow hawk sorry for pinging you directly, but do you know the fix for this issue?
#🔨base-gamma-support message
I've used the Discord search to find the fix, but nothing's there
You've replied to someone with a similar problem that you're working on the fix, but didn't see any further messages
Daddy token save is not working when this bug is active btw (it asks for Shift + F5 even when I'm holding shift - as if it was bugged somehow)
This means you've got to run to the nearest campfire to get rid of this bug :c
Oh I definitely still want to have to sleep, it's more about being able to sleep in hulled out buildings without getting the "You need a safer place" message
sorry to say but it still doesing work
what could you sugest
Looks like a busyhands bug. The only solution for now is to load a save without the bug
Send me your crashlog
Why I get crashed when try to make change in Igi tasks at the configuration mod menu?
thats thing - it doesnt get that far
it get to the thing ware you can turn od the debud thing and then crashes on that next stage
go to Anomaly/appdata/logs its gonna be there
@narrow sparrow where's the best place to share these sorts of error crashes ?
Getting this error in two different spots in darkscape , CTD
FATAL ERROR
[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CModelPool::Instance_Load
[error]File : ..\xrRender\ModelPool.cpp
[error]Line : 120
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments : Can't find model file 'dynamics\vehicles\veh_zaz968\part\veh_zaz968_u_01_part0.ogf'.
stack trace:
my game crashes upon loding a new game
I was actually hoping there's some other solution, as I know about this one 😆
It's not necessary to load the previous save - you just need to reload the game (you can save the game when it's active and after reloading it's gone)
there is just a ltx file and no logs
Here but that looks like a vanilla anomaly issue
hmmmm, for an error loading a stock asset vehicle? odd
it is odd. seens this before but never seen a fix for it
okay thank you , context, i was driving a vehicle prior, maybe this had something to do with it
Maybe its because of driving? see if you crash while on foot
i crashed while on foot about a minute or so after, but maybe, its tied to it
Try reinstalling anomaly cant do much without that log
why crash on new game
send the crashlog
disable this
running
Game crashes when I load an old save after the latest update? , starting a new game works fine ,but I want to continue my play through
send the crashlog
Where can crashlogs be found?
anomaly/appdata/logs
how can i find the crash log because I selected a graphic preset and now my game crashes when i try load a save
hello i get like 40-60fps on 1440p and i have a i9 11900k and 6800xt, should i be worried or is this normal?
Next time you ping me, take the time to describe your issue completely. I don't understand your problem
AMD GPU is the issue
!amd
If you have issues with AMD GPUs try installing the dlls of the x64 folder of the following .tar.gz to Anomaly/bin folder: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases
If you still have issues, refer to this guide: #╭📖faq message
There is nothing but 3 X_ray dell files ?
Or is the X -ray dell document is the crash log?
im having a crash when i try to start a new game after picking gear
also with 3070 and 9900 I get between 100 and 50 fps
the text doc one send it here
- Download the 1.5.2 update: https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/downloads/stalker-anomaly-151-to-152
- Open the zip, you'll see 4 folders and a text file
- SELECT the content of this archive (4 folders and a .txt file)
- DRAG AND DROP the content of this archive inside your Anomaly folder
- OVERWRITE everything when asked to do so
- Open the installer with admin rights
- Click on
Download G.A.M.M.A. dataAND THEN CLICKFull G.A.M.M.A. Installation
IF YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE UPDATE FOLDER NAMED Anomaly-1.5.1-to-1.5.2-Update IN YOUR ANOMALY FOLDER, THE GAME IS NOT UPDATED.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922555488665743391/1031175832376447077/unknown.png
After days of trying, I believe I've found an unreachable stash. It's in Checkpoint, Jupiter.
I CTD every time I aim down the sights with NVGs turned on. I only have the 1PN93-1 NVGs, so I don't know if it's just those or all NVGs
I'm not sure if I can describe it more in-depth 🤔
The issue is that I can't do most of the interaction seemingly (not 100% sure) after searching the bodies - this happens randomly from time to time and only saving and reloading fixes it
The interactions that are bugged are: searching the bodies, opening PDA, companion wheel, Daddy token save
It just happened to me 3 times in a span of 10 minutes 😐
No idea what causes it
Modlist
To bring your mod list back to default, inverting any changes made by you:
- Open the installer with admin rights
- Click on
Only install G.A.M.M.A. addons
Keybinds
To bring your keybinds to default, DON'T press the default button in the menu, you'll mess up everything.
Instead, do this:
- Go in
GAMMA RC3\.Grok's Modpack Installer\G.A.M.M.A\modpack_patches\appdata - Copy the
user.ltxfile you'll find in there (note that every change made by you in youruser.ltxwill be reverted to default) - Paste this file in
Anomaly\appdata
just crash while fighting a horde of mercs
i alredy have the update
Hello guys, have some kind of problem. First of all, the modpack didn't even started before i disabled this mods: 245- Hideout Furniture - Aoldri,G.A.M.M.A. Outfits Balances, G.A.M.M.A. Weapon Pack, G.A.M.M.A. Light Sources Spawner. After that, when i'm trying to start a new game, it just crashes. How can i fix this?
!default do the modlist part
Modlist
To bring your mod list back to default, inverting any changes made by you:
- Open the installer with admin rights
- Click on
Only install G.A.M.M.A. addons
Keybinds
To bring your keybinds to default, DON'T press the default button in the menu, you'll mess up everything.
Instead, do this:
- Go in
GAMMA RC3\.Grok's Modpack Installer\G.A.M.M.A\modpack_patches\appdata - Copy the
user.ltxfile you'll find in there (note that every change made by you in youruser.ltxwill be reverted to default) - Paste this file in
Anomaly\appdata
just download GAMMA yesterday, and compare to Anomaly, my Gamma seems for me, having some problems
_ no "unload" option when ri-click any weapons
_ no keybind for switching to secondary optics
If I update my G.A.M.M.A will I be able to play on my current saves?
Keep getting this crash when trying to trade with Dushman
update gamma
!update
In order to update your G.A.M.M.A. installation, YOU DON'T NEED TO DELETE ANYTHING, don't delete anything WITHOUT A GOOD REASON or at least ASK FIRST.
- Open the installer with admin rights and make sure you have the newest version, which is 3.8. You can get it here if you don't have it: <#📢announcements message>
- Click
Download GAMMA data, wait for it to say "done" - Choose between
Full G.A.M.M.A. installation" OROnly install G.A.M.M.A. Addons.
Before you ask: NO, YOU DON'T NEED TO CLICK THEM BOTH. ONLY ONE. AND NO YOU WON'T DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING AGAIN.
If you're missing something in your mod list, you will, of course.
It really depends on WHAT DO YOU NEED and WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. So, if you don't know the difference, learn it here: <#╭📖faq message>
This is because MOST OF THE TIME, NOT ALWAYS, Only install G.A.M.M.A. Addons is what you need to do, but it really depends.
You can click on Full G.A.M.M.A. installation if you haven't updated for a long time OR if you're missing mods.
Check frequently #📢announcements because Grok will ALWAYS says in that channel what you need to do and what's needed to do.
I just finished updating gamma tho, full install
My game crashes before It loads the map, what to do ? I did everything properly
Does that FPS Optimization guide help with Driver crashes? My AMD GPU just got timed out
how do i reset the download at the Mega thingy? been stuck at 6.45 gbs
First time it's happened. tens of hours playing
Do you mean after you pick your start? Cause I'm having the same issue.
Didn't work still crashes
right click this mod and open in explorer
delete the gamedata folder
open the installer as admin
download gamma data
install gamma addons
I select a character and click start, as it loads it crashes
Follow these instructions to send your mod list: <#╭📖faq message>
(if you're using this command somewhere else, send the file where it was asked)
hey there, i get a cannot open instance portable error, tried doing fixes from older messages but still can't seem to get the game to work
Yep, that's exactly what I have going on
what the hell
I know I had to manually active my mods, did you also? It might have something to do with it
I didnt no
Thats a red flag the required mods will be active by default
Help I can’t find a stash I’ve been looking forever, I scoured the area and I just can’t find it
I have 336 mods and everything is as the tutorial says
#╓☢stalker-chat ask there for gameplay questions
Should I just do a fresh install then and see if that works?
but it still crashes
!full
A Full GAMMA Installation does NOT remove saves, nor does it mean you are redownloading everything and it won't delete anything at all.
A full install will simply check every mod in the pack, and any that need to be updated will be updated.
To Perform this follow these steps:
- Open your
G.A.M.M.A. installeras admin - Click "
Download G.A.M.M.A. data" - Click "
Full G.A.M.M.A. installation"
send your crashlog. Anomaly/appdata/logs its the text document
!152
- Download the 1.5.2 update: https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/downloads/stalker-anomaly-151-to-152
- Open the zip, you'll see 4 folders and a text file
- SELECT the content of this archive (4 folders and a .txt file)
- DRAG AND DROP the content of this archive inside your Anomaly folder
- OVERWRITE everything when asked to do so
- Open the installer with admin rights
- Click on
Download G.A.M.M.A. dataAND THEN CLICKFull G.A.M.M.A. Installation
IF YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE UPDATE FOLDER NAMED Anomaly-1.5.1-to-1.5.2-Update IN YOUR ANOMALY FOLDER, THE GAME IS NOT UPDATED.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922555488665743391/1031175832376447077/unknown.png
where ?
also i manually added a reshade when i first downloaded gamma it worked fine
hello uhh...
my game sometimes freezes, stutters, or lags for some reason how to fix?
send it here
!152 update anomaly
- Download the 1.5.2 update: https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/downloads/stalker-anomaly-151-to-152
- Open the zip, you'll see 4 folders and a text file
- SELECT the content of this archive (4 folders and a .txt file)
- DRAG AND DROP the content of this archive inside your Anomaly folder
- OVERWRITE everything when asked to do so
- Open the installer with admin rights
- Click on
Download G.A.M.M.A. dataAND THEN CLICKFull G.A.M.M.A. Installation
IF YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE UPDATE FOLDER NAMED Anomaly-1.5.1-to-1.5.2-Update IN YOUR ANOMALY FOLDER, THE GAME IS NOT UPDATED.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922555488665743391/1031175832376447077/unknown.png
the folder anomaly does not seem to contain a game mod organizer can manage, any ideea how to fix this,i selected the anomaly folder, game worked yesterday just fine which is weird
but I did that
try running Dx10
not correctly
Ok im trying now
Quick question- I have the game fully installed and working fine, but due to a slight oversight, Gamma's folder is located in my Downloads folder, not the base directory. Do I have to fully uninstall and reinstall it to move the folder, or can I just drag and drop it without breaking everything?
!move
KEEP IN MIND AND REMEMBER THAT USING THE FOLLOWING FOLDERS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR ANOMALY AND GAMMA, DON'T USE THEM.
Desktop, Downloads, Documents One Drive, Documents, Program Files/Program Files x86
DON'T. USE. THEM.
DON'T.
Moving G.A.M.M.A.:
- Open your GAMMA folder and ONLY delete the "
mods" folder you'll find inside. Leave the rest untouched, you don't need to delete anything else - Move your GAMMA folder to the new location
- Run the installer as admin, click on
Download G.A.M.M.A. dataand then onFull G.A.M.M.A. installation.
Moving Anomaly:
- Move the folder to the new location
- Open MO2
- Click on the
green and blue gearsicon to manually edit the new .exe paths of your Anomaly folder
Cant exchange Deserter Beril for Military Beril..
Perfect, thanks!
Also didn't work
Does it crash on a new save?
no it doesnt
well...
start a new game lol?
YOu can try one last thing
which is ?
delete the .dds part of your save it worked for another guy
any ideea why i can't get mod organizer to find stalker anomaly as a game it can manage?
Whats wrong?
my game not respond
Uh, not sure where to put this but I've got a question. I had the main menu open while on my phone, and my cat walked across my keyboard. Whatever she pressed did something since a loading screen came up, and when it finished I had a new character (at least all stats were 0) and I was on a small square of land with four corner pillars and just a void outside of that.
and launch stalker anomaly instead stalker gamma
It kinda felt like some sort of dev area or something. Can anyone tell me what just happened?
your cat send you to the test world
Didn't work , I will start a new game thnx for Ur time tho
And say this, x-ray monolith engine not respond
After installing, I saw that zombie spawns are disabled in the ZCP menu in the Mod Configuration Menu. In Zombie Variants, many mutants did not have checked boxes, including bloodsuckers and snorks. Does that mean that those do not spawn by default? Would enabling Zombie spawns cause any issues with crashing and such? I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this.
Didn't realize the game even had that. How do you get there since I have no clue what she pressed?
F2 at main menu
Anyone else crashing in agroprom labs?
finally managed to install GAMMA and getting it to work but the game is incredibly foggy and dark, in the 100 rads bar I cant even walk around without a flashlight. any thoughts?
Did you launch the right exe? If you dont use DX11 the shaders dont work properly iirc
hey @hardy oxide yes I used DX11
i tried launching the game in dx 10 since shitty pc, but i get an shader compilation failed error. Anything i need to install to play on dx10
or maybe even dx8
Guys when i put down a portable workshop in freedom's base i cant open the stash it has or use it, i click the button but nothing happens. Is this a bug or is there something i dont know about portable workshops?
i changed graphics settings now my game seems fucked. 2 fps in the main menu and it seems some of the addons are not working properly anymore? any suggestions to what to do? it was perfectly fine before
Mine is in freedom base and works fine so this issue probably isnt location related. Have you tried reloading an earlier save and putting it down again?
ill try i guess
I would delete mod file and reinstall them
Alright, So I've done everything up to the point where i've opened groks modpack installer and pressed "Allow PowerShellScripts". Now it wants me to click "browse", but I can't find it and i don't want to go off searching for it, risking messing up the installation altogether
how should i do that
Does anyone know how to get the battery indicator for a flashlight or other devices to not always show that its running low even if the battery is full?
click launch mo2 in the installer
done, got the error message now
In your gamma file. Update and reinstall from gamma launcher. Same thing happened to me. I changed the resolution to 1440p and it crashed and ran like shit until I reinstalled. Now I’m good
continue with #old-how-to-install then
reset your user.ltx
How i solve this is a problem of the instalation?
!default do the keybind part
Modlist
To bring your mod list back to default, inverting any changes made by you:
- Open the installer with admin rights
- Click on
Only install G.A.M.M.A. addons
Keybinds
To bring your keybinds to default, DON'T press the default button in the menu, you'll mess up everything.
Instead, do this:
- Go in
GAMMA RC3\.Grok's Modpack Installer\G.A.M.M.A\modpack_patches\appdata - Copy the
user.ltxfile you'll find in there (note that every change made by you in youruser.ltxwill be reverted to default) - Paste this file in
Anomaly\appdata
so doing the whole thing with downloading gamma data and the doing the full gamma installation ?
it wont take nearly as long this time tho
alright thanks. i am sending it now
stalker time
hell yeah. crazy this game is free. much love to the brains behind it
Soundscape overhaul is suppose to remove fake mutant sounds but i'm still hearing them. It's making hunting mutants annoying. Any ideas?
Grok is a God and the mods here are awesome. 130K and growing
insaneee
The new installer will smooth everything

will it simplify the installation steps? that would be wicked
Oh yeah it absolutely will
only showing 253 active mods
I'm in the game but am getting aggressive stuttering when I pass through any door way, any suggestions?
youre updated to 1.5.2 as well right ?
Do somebody know if a AUTORUNFUNCTION is available?
Anyone know the name of the dismemberment mod added recently?
There's a mod on Moddb
ye yup. it was working "smooth" before i touched the settings. i was hitting 90 ish fps but i felt like i could bump that up by playing around in the settings. which it kinda did, i got like 20 fps+, but the menu got fucked and i killed some dogs and it seemed like the addons were bugged after, because when i looted them it was like base ANOMALY game looting
@brisk zinc Thanks👍
do the installing part again
yeah reinitialize the mods with a reinstall to then change visuals from the shader menu and from main menu in game but i do it before i load my save or start a new one
@fierce mulch ok thanks
??
the open gamma installer repeat what you did, honestly it's upto luck how much it downloads 
is there another drive links for the Gamma Add-ons?
my internet legit says its gonna be done in 3 days
sounds like a bit of hassle to do. i reinstalled now, wish me luck!!
!k98
- Go in this folder:
GAMMA RC3\.Grok's Modpack Installer\G.A.M.M.A\modpack_patches - Copy these three folders (check pic)
- Go to your Anomaly folder
- Paste these three folders (check pic)
- Overwrite/replace all if asked
It won't delete your save files.
Here is a picture for reference: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012510897136222293/1013951079538495528/k98.png
and the Mega one keeps returning Temporary error and stuck at 80%
thx bro
it did the magic @half whale !!!!
is there a graphical difference between directx 11 and 10?
i think a lot of people extract directly into their anomaly folders instead of just unpacking it then drag copying it into the file. when i extract directly like say for the update file for 1.5.2 it doesnt prompt to replace the files so i see why some might be confused as many instruction videos dont show that tiny part of the process
YESSSSSS!!!! finally
what is everyones avg fps in the game?
the shaders wont work properly if you dont use DX11
90-100fps at 1440p
hello hello, i was playing the game and i was getting pretty low framerate since this setup is kinda shit, i went ahead and lowered the graphic setting a bit and the game is just black now, i can hear the game and move around but its just plain black
restart the game
if its still like that youll have to reinstall the mods
i did, even created a brand new save and its just black, i can see the prompt of sleep on the screen so the game is ''working'' its just a graphic issue it seems
Is there anyway to remove those flame traps? Feels like cheese since u cant see em
is there something i can install to make the lasers look more convincing in the BaS mod? AK-105 shakal for example has a laser that is just a dot on the screen, doesnt interact with the environment at all, and is visible from insane distances.
seems when some change the resolution or visuals while in game this is happening
Hello
My stalker is hungry all the time i need to eat like crazy to be content . Someone know why or solution ?
hello all, i just disabled mags redux after having it on for a day (re enabled unjam as well) and now my game crashes when i try to load any saves 😦
are you running all the time ?
I run alot
thats why until you level that skill up it will drain you of energy
but i am not as thirsy
could be from taking lots of meds,
repeating this question, bcs there is no answer about how to fix that
how i check level ?
K i think?
is it normal for all boxes to be empty, and for me not to see gun mags in inventory?
gun mags are not on by default, you have to enable it in mo2 manually
ah, thanks!
!stashes
Stashes are empty by default; you will have to find or get coordinates to actually find something in them. These coordinates can be obtained as rewards by completing quests, by reading PDAs that you can find on the bodies of stalkers you kill, you can even threaten wounded stalkers to get them, before you kill them.
You can also buy them from traders, although the location is always random, so it could be anywhere.
hover over icon in the UI
!mags
In order to properly enable Mags Redux:
- Enable
Mags Redux (Disable G.A.M.M.A. Unjam Reload)(the mod under "Optional") - Disable
G.A.M.M.A. Unjam Reload on the same key(yes it's a mod, no it isn't a keybind) - Enable
Ammo Check(this is a mod as well) - While in game, check your keybinds for reload and unjam
- After successfully following all steps, you need to Left-Alt + left click the magazine to add to your loadout, before a reload can work
Bonus) You can also enableMags Buyable at Tradersif you want, it's a mod already inside your mod list
KEEP IN MIND that once you enable Mags Redux, you can't disable it in your current save file. The only safe way to do so, is by loading a save where you don't have the mod enabled or by starting a new game WITHOUT Mags Redux.
excellent explanation Falco thanks
also default key for skill menu is K
lol just realised its a bot
Will there be a chance that FDDA will return once the issue with the mod has been resolved? I did not experience any glitches before the disable was updated.
still no answer, great
ah well i stick by it, i hope you and your family are well mr bot
what do i do again when shader compilation failed pops up after i boot the game?
dont enable ammo check unless you are ok with starting a new game
whats wrong ? can someone help me ?
Whelp, I was going to ask a quick question regarding the collection of GAMMA add-ons, but I can see everyone has their hands full here.
I'll figure it out once I get them all downloaded
What
hey would i get less stutering if i switched my game file to my ssd also can i just move my whole file to the other drive
- You're asking stuff in the vanilla support channel (I'll add vanilla again)
- You're disabling stuff that crash the game
- You're asking why the game is crashing after disabling mods
Satisfied?
?
Hi guys ive got a weeiiirrrd issue
No (probably)
I would say if you disable any mods and it doesn’t run. Reinstall the mods after deleting mod file from folder.
Not, there is no answer where i should give that question
My view is perma zoomed in like reallyzooooomed
Thanks
for real? how can you be sure though?
Because I'm a moderator?

I know this stuff?
I maybe actually know what's going on behind the scenes?
Lmfao
Man I don't wanna be that guy but, my game keeps freezing every 3 seconds even after turning off and on the suggested things such as "turn this on if you stutter"
Even when I turn my settings to the lowest of low.
I have a 3070Ti with a i7-7700K so idk what's happening 💀
And I'm sure because the busy hands bug has been a thing in Anomaly for a long time
It's not a GAMMA bug
It's an Anomaly bug
It's something that isn't unfixable
Just because you don't have the problem, doesn't mean that the problem doesn't exist
An anomaly within anomaly ?
what do i do again when shader compilation failed pops up after i boot the game?
!shader
To clean your "Shader Cache", don't use the option in the Anomaly launcher.
Go in this folder: Anomaly\appdata, you'll find a folder called shaders_cache, delete this folder and launch the game normally from MO2, using your preferred DX.
Use DX11 no AVX
I'll give it a try
Like this is how zoomed in i am when i speak to him
some UI elements like the drug effects and also the minimap don't show up! donno why...
okay so a weird problem!
Check FOV at this point
Tried that unfortunately no change, also tried restarting the game
Press the freezoom button
I got a question. What exactly does the stutter fix do? Is there a downside to it? Because if not, I'd be curious why it's not enabled by default.
Are you sure this isn't how the game should be?
100% ive played about 10 hours on this save and when the bug started it was a very noticeable change
I tried updating the pack and still only getting 335 mods currently
i did these steps 10 times now still the same problem sry^^
I fixed it
Turns out im a bit of an idiot and didnt try BOTH fov settings. Sorry for wasting time
any ideas?
Hello everyone, I'm new here, and almost new to the stalker series (I played it before, not really that much, but I did enjoy it then, and I enjoy it now)
Now after couple of hours of gameplay, there is one problem that I'm having, I'm escoritng a loner, to some place, and I believe it's dark something called place, where it crashes most of the time, I did have a crash even before that zone
What can I do?
my compass doesnt show instead of the minimap, it only shoes a minimap if i toggle the minimap setting ingame
nvm... show hud was offzo 🙂
!Shader
To clean your "Shader Cache", don't use the option in the Anomaly launcher.
Go in this folder: Anomaly\appdata, you'll find a folder called shaders_cache, delete this folder and launch the game normally from MO2, using your preferred DX.
Have to add, it's just anomaly, so I'm not having problems with gamma... (forgot to add)
can someone help how to fix it?
The game launches and I can create my character. After I hit start it starts to load, the green bar fills and then the game crashes.
kingslinger
does anybody else game stutters very bad?
is boomsticks and sharpsticks actually meant to be off or is a trick name and its meant to be on just want to make sure
eanble in mo2 stutter mod, put in the search bar of mo2
yeah mine, trying some things to fix it
unsuccessful so far
go into mo2 and enable the sutter mod
I have and sadly still continues
I tried every step to fix the shader compilation error but it still dosnt work 😦
sorry dont know then put on v-sync mybe
I already did that, I tried running game borderless and set the games priority to high and disabled core 0 in task manager. all of these things didn't help, im still stuttering
try v-sync
Okay
i have this log file error: d:/games/anomly gamma/anomaly-1.5.1.2/bin/..\appdata\shaders_cache\r4\pp_blur.ps\40961111001100000000001000001103311101101000000
! error: common_functions.h(29,6): warning X3205: conversion from larger type to smaller, possible loss of data
common_functions.h(66,2): warning X3206: implicit truncation of vector type
common_functions.h(71,49): warning X3206: implicit truncation of vector type
common_functions.h(103,2): warning X3206: implicit truncation of vector type
night_vision.h(3,17): error X3003: redefinition of 'shader_param_7'
Hello! Is the start-confirm channel still active? It does not seem to show up in the channel list.
You're not a newcomer
You don't need the channel
I see, thanks.
can somebody explain to me if i did anything wrong, because i only deleted the shaders cache folder and started the game again, still doesnt work.
is boomsticks and sharpsticks actually meant to be off or is a trick name and its meant to be on just want to make sure
Hey, just installed the game, it starts normally, pretty slow on the start screen already, when I click on settings it crashes, the log says this:
LUA ERROR: c:/anomaly/bin/...\gamedata\scripts\ui_options.script:800: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'w' (a nil value)
When doing an ammo check, should you see the character actually taking the magazine out of the weapon, or does it just move off screen a bit. For me, after enabling the Busy Hands fix, it moves the weapon off screen slightly, then displays the ammo status. I should mention that I enabled Mags Redux, according to the instructions on here. I am not sure if I should post this to custom-modlist-support or here. Sorry, if I got it wrong. Also, I posted a question earlier about a ZCP option, but did not get an answer. Should I repost it, or will it get answered eventually?
Hello, i swapped from Loner to Duty. I am confused if I am missing a quest chain or if I lost it at some point? I dont have the Lost to the Zone quests and I dont have the Living Legend talk to gatekeeper anymore. I am pretty sure i was told to talk to scientists by the general early but I cant remember anymore.
ok so how I enable pick up animations? Since i go into the FDDA tab and it only gives me the option to activate it. Is there a way I can get the skinning animation and backpack open animation too?
do you have any high-speed download links?
me?
anyone 😄
Is there a limit to how many objective markers the PDA can track and is that limit effected by stash markers? because my tasks arent giving me markers these days and i have sooooo many stash markers
oh wait i didnt see this channel but i have big problem
^
So, All of my mods in MO2 were disabled by default. Is there a list of the mods I need to disable in order for the game to work?
I would like to move my game install to a different location, what should I do after cut/pasting the game folder, what steps do I need to take?
i need to uninstall gamma but cant find the uninstaller, do i just delete everything and wipe cache or?
Yeadekete
2 of my companions are stuck in the yantar x-lab and the button to teleport them is not working. I have tried leaving the area and even fast travelling in the hopes that they will spawn nearby, but instead it seems they are spawning below the ground
Is there a way to fix the companion teleport button or is there a debug command I can use?
To use companion teleport you also have to enable the corresponding mod in MO2. If I remember, you also have to be within 300m of them
The game often crashing while loading locations/saves and it often freezes during shootouts, the image just freezes, I have to turn off the game through the task manager
That makes sense, I'll try enabling it. @keen cedar can you help me locate it in mod manager?
Having an issue with an SR-2 being unable to reload anyone else having weird reload issues, the game tries to reload and does about half the animation and doesn't complete the reload
I used a torrent and It was pretty fast.
How do you check armor stats at 100%?
Press s
That is the status hud
Ooooo shit ty
Open it in a workbench and check the parts
Been lookin in settings but thats just too much xd
can someone help me ?
what
Oh no
Is there a place with the modlist csv? I'm not finding one so far
I don't understante what you mind@pulsar tendon
Wha
If it was 100% i mean its now ruined. Ut i saw in some youtube vid he checked if it was 100 % stats in inventory
i have circled the search bar too 👍
Oh wow excellent, I appreciate it
but yeah, companion pathfinding is super messed up underground, as I'm sure you now know
hold CTRL and hover over it
Yes I have noticed lol. Was spookier without them
Ooo ty
would stuttering be caused by not installing on an SSD?
not really - a lot of it is because xray engine is singlethreaded and can only go so fast
I would check the NVIDIA settings in the control panel making sure it’s using your Gpu and cpu for performance
enable the stutter fix mod, disable core 0, enable triple buffering if you have nvidia GPU, accept that it is an old game with a lot of extra mods and that it will stutter especially when spawning in/approaching NPCs
Sorry so the stuff on the left is the status menu if that's what you are referring to. You opened it by pressing the "s" key while in debug mode afaik. If this isn't your issue then apologies on the confusion
Okay thank you, I'll try it out
howdy, is there any in game adjustment for thirst and hunger? Seems odd that they give you a full bar but start to lose health from the thirst meter at half
I'm guessing I use this as the program in NVIDIA Control panel
don't think so, but someone made a mod for it a few days ago i think? look for "thirst" in #🖇old-mods-posting
sweet, I'll check it out
Ive tried updating multiple times with no luck on getting to 336 mods and now my game crashes when i try to load my save any suggestions?
dont update, you need to full install to get to 336
I crash when i kill a certain npc is there anything i can do for that?
I tried doing the full install too no luck on it
@pulsar tendonthx fixed
I enabled debug mode and now my screen is black
don't... kill them
!blackscreen
Follow this: #╭📖faq message
to delete cache do i go into appdata folder within anomaly and delete "shaders_cache"?
💀 roger roger
greetings friends, question if i create a new game when it finish loading its a black screen, any ideas?
!blackscreen
correct
ty just being sure before i delete something wrong lol
just curious, ive had this happen a few tiems, is it normal for exosuits to get deleted/// deletignthe character they are on? ive found a few and they were walkign from 1 campfire to the next when it happened, i used search and couldnt find similar issues x.x so its probably jsut a personal issue, the last one was a ecologist down outside clearskys base XD
!blackscreen
when i goto replace a part inside of piece of armor its supposed to delete the part right? or is that a bug
you have to click the link from the bot message 💀
Anyone else crashes when going to settings in the main menu?
the game does this constantly to cull NPCs so your game isn't at permanent 5fps
!crash post your crash log here please
Send your crash log where it was asked, not inside the #🤖bot-commands if you're here right now.
It's inside your Anomaly folder, this is the complete path: Anomaly/appdata/logs.
This is what you could find:
xray_yournamehere.txtxray_yournamehere.logxray_yournamehere
You just need to send this file where it was asked, drag and drop inside the Discord channel, Discord will handle it for you.
Make sure you're not using any extra mods.
my free zoom wont unzoom when I let go of the key
thank you, and oof, i jsut accepted a mission form him too XD and thank you homie, you get a 🍞
ive changed keybinds 3 times and restarted/changed save/new game and its still the same - it also sets my mouse sens to like 0.0001
Interesting, I wasn't even aware there was a color method for thirst and sleep. I'll have to look into that as well
there you go
this seems incomplete? no error at the end?
send the .bkp pls
hmm maybe, here is the bkp
Huh. Any red crosses in MO2 next to mods?
Does the BR class stat on a helmet only apply on the head?
yes
keep getting a ton of random crashes after i changed my settings to boost my fps dont think its the reason making me crash tho
just installed 3 fps at main menu
!modlist need your modlist pls
Follow these instructions to send your mod list: <#╭📖faq message>
(if you're using this command somewhere else, send the file where it was asked)
is there a mod to fix the bugged scope when using the grenade launcher? (after switching to launcher on my m4 my scope wont zoom anymore until i dismounted and mounted it again)
fix your shitty ass game
!modlist
Follow these instructions to send your mod list: <#╭📖faq message>
(if you're using this command somewhere else, send the file where it was asked)
I think you're a couple updates behind - start there and see if it helps
- Open GAMMA installer as admin
- Click "Download G.A.M.M.A. data"
- Click "Only install G.A.M.M.A. add-ons"
thats weird installed the modpack a week ago
ok
what do i do now
anyone had problem extracting gamma addons? keep getting dataerror on 12 mods
weight increase artifacts not working, shows increase but stamina still goes down at the rate of encumbered
Can someone fix the fucking game?
Works fine for me bro
i literally have 3fps at main menu
works for me too
normal! known and expected, just continue with step 6 of #old-how-to-install
yee but the files isnt there after the extraction
youre very rude
are you using 7zip? it should extract everything, other programs may stop
sorry im just looking for help
yee, havent downloaded rar in years
no one wants to help a rude person don't you know
hmm! and GAMMA RC3\downloads is empty?
yeah im not doing all this for a shit mod
then leave
yee, gonna try restart the pc and hope
did you put an antivirus exception on the whole GAMMA folder?
do that, then re-extract the GAMMA RC3.7z file into your GAMMA folder
no red crosses, but some things showing as uninstalled... I guess I will download everything again
!full just remember you don't have to delete anything
A Full GAMMA Installation does NOT remove saves, nor does it mean you are redownloading everything and it won't delete anything at all.
A full install will simply check every mod in the pack, and any that need to be updated will be updated.
To Perform this follow these steps:
- Open your
G.A.M.M.A. installeras admin - Click "
Download G.A.M.M.A. data" - Click "
Full G.A.M.M.A. installation"
does anyone know about the random hitching that happens every now and then? My frame rate is fine, it almost feels like a chunk loading thing, is that even a thing in stalker?
k i fixed it i love you all now
seems the issue might actually just be if i get a quest reward from strelok. really have no friggin clue whats wrong now but i cannot do the story path for clearsky at the moment. which sucks. ive been given the AAM W/ Firefly, and a body cooler? both of which have immediately bricked the game. im not having the issue with any other quests though.
!stutter and yes it is a thing, it's the game trying to quickly calculate what all the NPCs in a certain radius should be doing
- Update G.A.M.M.A. to the latest version (open the installer with admin rights, click on
Update G.A.M.M.A. dataand thenFull G.A.M.M.A. installation) - Bring your modlist back to default (type
!defaultin #🤖bot-commands) - Enable the "
Turn this on if you stutter" mod in your MO2 (you can found the mod under theG.A.M.M.A. Fixesseparator) - If you have a NVIDIA GPU, you can enable
Triple Bufferingin NVIDIA control panel - Open Anomaly Launcher via MO2 and tick
Prefetch sounds - If you have a beefy GPU, use
Anomaly (DX11)
I know that this isn't really a technical question, but I haven't really found a channel in which I could ask this question. I was wondering if STALKER Anomaly violated the Stalker Devs' or Steam's Terms of Service. It's probably a stupid question, but I wanted to ask it anyway. Sorry if this is a dumb question.
it did not
Stalker devs actually released the tools on which Anomaly was made
we would not be this fucking blatant if it did lmao
Thats actually really cool
ah thanks
thank you very much for the help
iirc the engine is free for noncommercial use, which is why there are so many fan forks
the freedom quest fella is missing

Is there a way to make a mark on the minimap? Got stuff stashed in a box out in the swamp because I had way too much stuff on me to walk back fast enough. For now I've just screenshotted the location.
still get the same error after disabling antivirus and re extracting gamma rc3
thank you for helping, the modpack is really fucking cool
and sorry if my english is a bit shit, its not my native language
sometimes my game won't allow me to fast swap items from inventory , has anyone encountered this too?
click "Load this plugin"
Does Duty have a quest chain? If yes what is the name of it. Also i lost the talk to gatekeeper quest when i changed to duty should i just respawn him to fix?
nope, closest you can get to it is to drop a backpack and make a custom stash
disable the mod Duty Expansion, which should not be enabled by default anyway
anyone know what frames u would get with a rtx 1660 super and a 15-11400F?
woah
this fucking error
probably below 60fps in some maps, hardware of that level doesnt do much on an old game @hidden rover
Yeah, I figured. Didn't have materials to make one though. Thanks.
what section is that under
reinstalled it twice so i genuinely dont know what i am doing wrong
nvm got it
aigh ty
So after about a week of not playing I launched my game and started an ironman bandit run and i walk up to a guy and this is his name
will gamma run on a 2060?
yes
i need fix for freedom quest guy not being there is he at another location or is he gone
I'm running it fine on a 1070, occational stutter but I don't think it's the GPU
nope. it really is just the game killing itself when i talk to strelok and turn in quests. no clue why its happening so often. but it is strange.
Is there any highly demanding mod installed by default? I'm running on a 3060Ti and I can barely reach 60FPS on potato settings, 45 in medium. GPU is running at 100%
i have a 3060ti and run 80-100 with occasional drops to 70 is your cpu bottlenecking the gpu?
i haven't messed around with the graphics settings too much though seems to be at a medium/high default
have the exact same thing
CPU is not bottlenecking
Anyway this game has 3 polygons, this should not be needed that much of GPU
no matter how many times i hit full install the active mods never goes to 334
make sure you don't have some settings on they might be real fps drainers i saw a graphics settings guide might help you
also might have a btc miner lmao
It is not, it's running at 50%
Not sure if this is a bug or something, but I was hiding in a corner of Flea Market during an Emission and there were a group of mercs (I was Clear Sky so neutral with them). A couple suddenly turned into lurkers (I guess they didn't move far enough into the corner or something?) and started attacking the rest of the group, but every single one of the mercs just stood there and let the lurkers maul them to death. I managed to kill the lurkers, but the fact that none of the mercenaries defended themselves or reacted in any way to being attacked definitely feels like a huge bug. Though it did lead to me getting a huge amount of loot.
guys i have weird problem
And GPU is 100%
i cant move installer window
The only reasons I can come up with for them not attacking is maybe the lurkers being former mercs messed with the AI, or maybe their AI goes inactive during emissions or something
did you turn off core 0 in stalker
and halfo of it is out of my screen
What's that?
ok, go to your GAMMA RC3/plugins/data/OMODFramework.dll, right click it > "Show Properties", see if there is this message at the bottom:
everytime i press start after i select my loadout the game crashes, what do i do?
@keen cedar is there a way to respawn freedom quest npc because he ain't there
ahahah this thing
I had this problem myself I managed to see the window though by alt tabbing
yeah there is do i apply
cant move it while its installing
ive finished installing everything, running the base gem, then when i open MO2 it opens an instance manager and says cant open instance
any other mods i should remove
Why the fuck would removing the first CPU Core improve perfs
yes, apply unblock and try again
but how im gonna press the buttons that are out of my screen
put it on another desktop, Win key + Tab
idk but it does
That's non sense. Anyway my problem is GPU based, not CPU based
the game is single-threaded, and Core 0 is the "default" core that every other application on your PC is trying to use. by forcing the game to use a less-busy core it improves performance
It will only be stuck while installing gamma
now this
That's ignorance on how Windows works. It does not run every single processes on the first core
pls help me man the freedom guy ain't there
Unticking it did not help anyway
well it works ok so don't question it
Once it's done you'll be able to press the buttons
hello, I enabled the mod where you can't loop bodies that have been killed by NPC's, and I accidentally tried looting one and now my screen is all blurry, any way to fix?
thanks
Did not work for me sadly :/
did you update your drivers
No bother pal
Sure
also is anything else using gpu like 3d renders or some shi
i dont know if it will help but have you tried spawning him using debug menu?
ok pal but it's how xray works
i dont know his ai logic i think in need that
go to your GAMMA RC3 folder, delete the file ModOrganizer.ini (white icon). Re-open MO2, direct it to your Anomaly folder
my reaction to that information
Q: does both files have to be in C:/GAMMA and C:/Anomaly or can it be C:/games/stalker/Gamma,Anomaly
should be seperate folders but i don't think they have to be in root
💀
Would suggest keeping it shorter so something like C:/Games/Gamma and C:/Games/Anomaly
But yes you could do your original
ive finished installing everything, running the base gem, then when i open MO2 it opens an instance manager and says cant open instance
Okay ty thats fine
MO2 is trolling you
screenshot the error
was teh debug button again i forgor 💀
i reopen mo2 from the installer right
Close Mo2
Go to the gamma Folder
delete the modorganiser.ini
open mo2 as admin and setup the instance again
that did it, thanks lol
doesn't really matter, you can use the desktop shortcut, button in installer or just double-click ModOrganizer.exe from the GAMMA folder
Now that ive got everything installed and able to run, can i safeley copy paste the folder holing it all into a diff drive?
!move
KEEP IN MIND AND REMEMBER THAT USING THE FOLLOWING FOLDERS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR ANOMALY AND GAMMA, DON'T USE THEM.
Desktop, Downloads, Documents One Drive, Documents, Program Files/Program Files x86
DON'T. USE. THEM.
DON'T.
Moving G.A.M.M.A.:
- Open your GAMMA folder and ONLY delete the "
mods" folder you'll find inside. Leave the rest untouched, you don't need to delete anything else - Move your GAMMA folder to the new location
- Run the installer as admin, click on
Download G.A.M.M.A. dataand then onFull G.A.M.M.A. installation.
Moving Anomaly:
- Move the folder to the new location
- Open MO2
- Click on the
green and blue gearsicon to manually edit the new .exe paths of your Anomaly folder
aight its staying on the external drive lol
i have some kind of bug, my FOV gets higher by itself and HUD health bar shows like i have 0 hp
can you open inventory or reload guns?
yes
the 0 hp hud seems like a Busyhands bug load and earlier save
After the latest update, there is no option to turn on backpack and skinning animations, am I correct? And also, can we expect the animations to make a comeback anytime soon™?
Now this for christs sake
...your antivirus really hates your gamma folder huh
its disabled
what antivirus do you have?
windows defender thats it
ok. so you technically can re-enable them. but if you do we will not provide support for your game in this channel any more, your warranty is voided etc.
restart your PC? sometimes needed for the change to take hold?
all right
I understand but for example I don't see the option to enable them in MCM settings anymore. Is there some other way to enable it?
And will they be coming back when they're more stable?
Disable Gamma reliable animation settings
aww i was gonna spoiler tag it 
if you do, and you have problems, you must go to #🔨modded-gamma-support
Also backup your saves for when you get the busyhands bug
anyone know how to fix npc names?
enable this
Ok cool beans
will do tyvm
the same fucking error
cant get the debug mode to work
just had 2 random crashes in 20 minutes after updating my game
did you tick "debug mode" in the Anomaly Launcher
yes
drop your log here
I'm getting strange like... hitches all of a sudden? Like when I look in certain directions the game seems to become sluggish.
Anyone know what the cause for this is? Or how to fix it?
For context -
I have enabled the stutter fix in MO2
Shadows at half quality with most settings on default.
This is a new issue.
did you press "Save settings" and then play the game through Anomaly Launcher?
that looks like a firewall problem, gimme sec to look at other guys log then ill getcha
all right tyt
How do I turn off the high contrast mode on my binoculars?
ahh i play through the anomaly launcher? okay thank you
you upgraded them? RIP, find new binosc
I only had to play through the launcher once
Seriously? FUCK
also please stop using this channel for gameplay questions, those should be in #╟🔰☢newbies-chat
Memory crash, if it is happening very frequently you prolly need to lower your settings. engine is capped at 4gb of memory so even if u pc has plenty it doesnt rlly help
Is it normal to be stuck on the ''Copying GAMMMA/mod_addons/'' ?
yes, it's a lot of addons
I've been waiting for over an hour for it
its weird man, this is happening after i did the amd fix AND lowered my settings so i get more fps
yea happens to me aswell, if its going frequently after a level change then u may wanna roll back an old save, sometimes they can get a bit... wierd XD
I turned off brain scorcher and my game got all glossy and my hud broke
like the health system is blacked out and all that
!hud
Can't see the HUD anymore?:
Press Numpad Enter.
Your HUD looks strange?:
1) Load a save before this bug happened.
2) Press Enter on the Numpad (if you don't have a Numpad, turn off HUD in your game settings).
3) Press H on your keyboard.
4) You should have no HUD now. Try transitioning to a different location. HUD will get re-activated and fixed.
I Think its the Ui mask from reshade but try the steps above first
nice call
we dont have any documentation of it but Im guessing you'll need to allow all the exe files through ur firewall
Hey, anyone know what to do here ? its stuck like this for like 10 mins now
The other thing I'm worried about is do you see that weird white tint the game has, any idea whats causing that? UIMask fixed the issue thanks!
how
I dont really see a white tint
allow a program in windows firewall
white tint'll prolly be from your reshaders as well if the UI mask was causing that issue. I dont see it either tho haha
See the side of the tank, or the steep angle on the ground how it goes all white
what sheets said, type allow into ur windows search and it should pop up
it wasnt like that before i went into x16
gloss factor fix?
hmm, screenshot ur reshaders menu?
I see could be a shader issue? Try clearing the shader_cache

I cleared the cache, a better example is in yantar hang on
Its like It snowed or something, can that happen? I dont have a texture mod for snows, but I have a friend that does.
try turning SMAA to high, Antistropic and anti anilising down all the way, lower light distance to half, turn SSAO off
not unless u have edens and its a process so shouldnt. Screenshot ur reshaders menu n send here
I'm having random crashes based on inventory actions
Most of the time, it's when I try to put an artefact in a LLC
But just now, it happened while trying to put a scope on a gun, any potential idea of what could cause that ?
did you turn on any FDDA animations
Do you have any extra animations enabled?
Let me check real quick
ily guys
veerserif for the win heehee
holy shit your arm is fucked lmao. good luck in the zone
FDDA Animations are activated, but apart from the backpack one I don't have any extra enabled
Could it be that single extra animation the problem ?
YES
disable everything except the first option in FDDA
Goddammit (I swear it's written somewhere and I just glossed over it, sorry for the inconvenience guys)
You're the best :'D
i followed the steps in #old-framerate-optimisation to troubleshoot poor performance (i fixed it im not sure what setting did it by my fps increased from 40 to 100 so im not complaining) how would i go about readding the graphics mods
if you still crash when putting artefacts in containers do this
how do i specifically undo this
I did that, I bruteforced the crashes so many times yesterday before finding out this was the problem 
run a full install
Okay random secondary question since my issue was solved with the swiftness of a coursing river -
I have to remap the Quick Load to F10 cuz I use F9 for other stuff, but it automatically remaps back to F9 on reboot.
Is there a way to fix this? NBD if not, it's part of my flow now just figured I'd ask lol
!full
A Full GAMMA Installation does NOT remove saves, nor does it mean you are redownloading everything and it won't delete anything at all.
A full install will simply check every mod in the pack, and any that need to be updated will be updated.
To Perform this follow these steps:
- Open your
G.A.M.M.A. installeras admin - Click "
Download G.A.M.M.A. data" - Click "
Full G.A.M.M.A. installation"
does it change settings? i dont know what setting i changed to fix the fps problem and id rather not spend hours troubleshooting it again
!backup
"Why does every update completely reset my keybinds/my settings/my mods/my stuff in general?"
G.A.M.M.A. has a default mod list to make sure everyone has the same things, everything goes back to default when you update or you do a complete installation, it's normal.
You can backup your keybinds and mod settings following this guide: #╭📖faq message
it will reset all settings
keymappings shouldnt reset themselves but if quickload is after every boot up im guessing it may be a hard thing in the game. imma test it now cuz im curious heehee
can someone help the gun was at 100% before putting the 338 kit on it, any idea what or why its being this way it keeps saying the rifle is at 21%
if i save user.itx will that help me keep the setting or will it break other things?
tyty I await patiently for your test results

How can I move the installer while it's still working I wanna do something else whilst it's working
!backup backup your settings this way if you want
"Why does every update completely reset my keybinds/my settings/my mods/my stuff in general?"
G.A.M.M.A. has a default mod list to make sure everyone has the same things, everything goes back to default when you update or you do a complete installation, it's normal.
You can backup your keybinds and mod settings following this guide: #╭📖faq message
@narrow sparrowunder replacement parts
pls help me out here....
you cant, but if you hit windows key + tab you can open a new desktop and work there for the time being
ignore that look at the parts and condition at the top
just means your mirror is slammed. let it finish. if it's stuck, close the installer and reopen, suggest you pick mirror 127 or 128 next time
You can make a secondary desktop with Win+Tab then click New Desktop on the top and drag the installer and cmd window over
Alright
ITS GONNA TAKE 3 GODDAMN HOURS TO DOWNLOAD THE MOD ADDONS
@narrow sparrow right so is that a bug because I did the same thing on other rifles and the rifle condition was at 100%
you guys gotta add like a torrent link or something please
huh didnt change it back for me... thats very wierd specially if its only that one thats changing back for you
what you are looking at isnt the condition
then what is at 21%
Its stuck, i reinstalled a sec ago cause it downloaded but got stuck on unpacking.
the "replacement part" gun isnt real
the actuall gun has its own condition bar, thats the guns real condition
yeah it's just that one.
Ohhhhh well lol
oh all good it woke up
also Mega only lets you do 5GB a day so I had to start over
Hi my pda is bugged and it is a bit sideways now. any help?
@opal shoalso its glitched out then ? because the replacement part on other rifles goes to 100 when putting a kit on it, its just messing w my ocd
Cashing after actions or saving game
Yea just a visual glitch. May even fix itself after a save load
I have multiple save loads unfortunately still nothing
Just dont look at it
Any help guys how to fix this???
yo it's that guy with the amd gpu problem (unique I know). DDU'ed it again and had the auto-detect software get the driver for me this time. it's the enterprise drivers which are apparently the most stable one out there and Stalker still crashes them after around 15 minutes of play without the game crashing itself. now I'm definitely sure it's not a driver issue since this is the third safe mode total wipe and reinstall
My fellow Amd user try driver 22.8.2
already did
Can anyone let me know what the duty questline is. Because i dont know if i have it or not
i guess you did the dxvk workaround?
I did 22.8 I did 22.10 and now I'm on the 22.Q3 enterprise and nadda
game crashing whenever i try to start a new save
yup. I've done everything
weird thing is the drivers still continue crashing every minute afterwards till a restart
even with the game off
How do i edit my goodwill with a faction, i tried using the command but it didn't work
honestly I suspect that dxvk might be fucking with the drivers idk. I'm not exactly sure what they even do
That is some advanced case of amd fuckery. Try Win+Ctrl+Shift+B to restart them to stop the constant crashing
I restart them and they keep crashing every minute till a restart
Any help?
Try removing the with amdcleanuputility tool maybe it works better than DDU
translates DX instructions to vulkan
thats... weird... im guessing you've already tried quicksave and load, try vid_refresh in console
I'm 99.9% sure the drivers are fine. because only gamma does this and has done this consistently
not sure if logs would help since the game doesn't even crash itself but here
Havent run into any problems with dxvk yet. Try running the game without it
ok
Yea i tried reloading
My game crashes during Emission weather events I don't know what to do to fix it
crashlog
Water flickering
My weight increase artifacts show the visual increase but my stamina still drans as encumbered
game crashes in 10 minutes without dxvk but driver crashes in 15 minutes with. can't tell if it's dxvk doing it so....
!surgecrash
If you crash with this error during an emission: surge_manager_ignore_npc
- Open your mod list
- Find
265- NPCs Die in Emissions for Real - Right click on it, click
Reinstalland thenReplace
Yeah, I'm trying to edit faction goodwill using the method listed here but its not working
I got a question. What exactly does the stutter fix do? Is there a downside to it? Because if not, I'd be curious why it's not enabled by default.
@violet swan if your log has this error in it run this fix
try running something gpu intensive to see if the driver timesout on other apps
it's incredibly frustrating. the modpack ran smooth like a month ago. now it crashes and dxvk might or might not be corrupting my drivers. I'll run a benchmark or something
Hello, got a crash everytime I load my old safe. Deleted shadercache user.ltx and checked the "safegame fixer" in the launcher.
Could someone please help me to debug the feature of 179- Better Stats Bar - Demonized mod, showing full (repaired) item stats when holding Ctrl? Seems like I broke key assignment by changing Squat key to Alt and cannot get it working again.
// Looking for snipers to delete...
Time continual is:1367703
there are 2 new categories
! Can't find texture 'ui_mm_faction_na'
Time continual is:1390717
// Looking for snipers to delete...
stack trace:
at address 0x00007FF8224C8A77
!default fastest way is to reset user.ltx to default
Modlist
To bring your mod list back to default, inverting any changes made by you:
- Open the installer with admin rights
- Click on
Only install G.A.M.M.A. addons
Keybinds
To bring your keybinds to default, DON'T press the default button in the menu, you'll mess up everything.
Instead, do this:
- Go in
GAMMA RC3\.Grok's Modpack Installer\G.A.M.M.A\modpack_patches\appdata - Copy the
user.ltxfile you'll find in there (note that every change made by you in youruser.ltxwill be reverted to default) - Paste this file in
Anomaly\appdata
wait. I think I might recognize that texture error?
Been following the guidelines in #old-framerate-optimisation and toying around with settings via the console myself, but I have a feeling that this is a bug more so than related to some graphics settings. Have also tried DX10, and DX11 with AVX on and off - results are the same.
When looking in certain directions, the game will stutter a fair bit. It will constantly jump between ~40-180 FPS. May not be as noticeable on video, but it is extremely annoying whilst ingame.
its from gamma ui
is that what's crashing my drivers? I doubt it would but
is anomaly supposed to fail verfiyiing files?
yes
you never know xray engine isnt known for making sense
try limiting your fps
well I'll run 3dmark to see if gpu is broken or not brb
i installed anomaly and gamma without running anomaly at all
you need to run vanilla anomaly 152 atleast once
Aye that does make it better, but being able to play at above 60 FPS would be nice. But at the same time, also have to respect the fact that this is an ancient engine I suppose 
unsing medkit causes busy hand bug any suggestions ?
its a 2007 engine it doesnt like modern hardware that much
!stutter
The fix is follow the instructions properly
- Update G.A.M.M.A. to the latest version (open the installer with admin rights, click on
Update G.A.M.M.A. dataand thenFull G.A.M.M.A. installation) - Bring your modlist back to default (type
!defaultin #🤖bot-commands) - Enable the "
Turn this on if you stutter" mod in your MO2 (you can found the mod under theG.A.M.M.A. Fixesseparator) - If you have a NVIDIA GPU, you can enable
Triple Bufferingin NVIDIA control panel - Open Anomaly Launcher via MO2 and tick
Prefetch sounds - If you have a beefy GPU, use
Anomaly (DX11)
load an earlier save
do i need to reinstall if i didnt?
Just start it by opening ur Anomaly 1.5.2. folder and start the .exe then try GAMMA again if not, do Full install again
Yes
you will need to reinstall anomaly you missed a step
only anomaly, i can leave gamma install as is?
Yes missed this after I reinstalled it once. then started it via the common Anomaly .exe did a full Install and it worked , dont forget to activate the Powershell shit
I don't see any error message when it crashes
yes
Any idea why the game just closes with no error? And no crash_log gets generated
Just freezes randomly and turns off
dont forget to run anomaly 152 vanilla atleast once before doing a gamma addon install
does the screen turn black?
Can u help me with my fukd safe file?
Nah just the game closes, as if I Alt f4
Hey i recently tinstalled the modpack but every time i try to make a new game to play it after it loads it just instantly closes the game, i have tried reinstalling the game and mods but to no changes.
how fucked are we talking about?
dunno😂
But it's really random, some days it works no problem, and today it just shuts down for like the 3rd time
and you sure there isnt a log file in Anomaly/appdata/logs?
describe the issue
here
there is an emission event happening and when the event is at its peak it crashes but there is not error log or crashlog
sent it some messages ago , think it got overlooked
There is, but it just saying a bunch of !sound files not found
No concrete error exceptions
!surgecrash most likely this will fix it
If you crash with this error during an emission: surge_manager_ignore_npc
- Open your mod list
- Find
265- NPCs Die in Emissions for Real - Right click on it, click
Reinstalland thenReplace
Hello good people of the Zone, does anyone know what is the cause of this? First pic is my game, numbers are so small and i play on 1080p.. and second pic is from Drewski's gameplay
send it here
where to I do there fix
Thank you! That helped. Does this mod only work for armor, and not for weapons?
only armour
He stripped the gun, how is that your "technical issue" btw
do you crash when equiping your knife?
size of the numbers
Interesting that those weren't in the optimization guide, but the issue remains. It's probably related to some graphical part since it only occurs in certain areas when looking at certain directions. The render thread goes haywire, best solution so far seems to simply be to limit the FPS to 60.
No, this last time i was walking with sniper out, like the errors are not related to what I am doing
But i do have alot of companions atm
!surgecrash
If you crash with this error during an emission: surge_manager_ignore_npc
- Open your mod list
- Find
265- NPCs Die in Emissions for Real - Right click on it, click
Reinstalland thenReplace
My game is crashing whenever i try to start a new save
try a full install to refresh every mod dont know what would cause this
reinstalled anomaly, gamma wont laod now
do i need to do a fresh install from groks modp[ack installer
Yeah, what file is the config? So i don't have to re-do all my binds and such
as i said i play on 1080p and then i tried with 720p and numbers were bigger same as his and Klean's.. and that is weird
any tutorials for armour editing?
Hello fellow stalkers, I just finished my very first installation of GAMMA however the mod organizer shows 336 mods 
user.ltx in anomaly/appdata
back and neither 3dmark nor non-synthetic tests crashed the drivers like gamma does
Thank you
Thats good
So I should just try to run it as is ?
yes
Alright thanks alot 
defeats the whole purpose of a modpack but I guess I'll try mod hunting the list to see what's crashing them?
hey not sure if this is the correct place to put this bit I'm having issues with the addon file saying it has multiple corrupt files when trying to extract
any other ideas?
came to ask about this aswell
nothin?
try anomaly as admin.The time out could be because the gpu gets suspended for some reason
srsly
Dont question logic with Amd cards
I have everything on admin
!zip
This problem is already known, the zip isn't a FULL ULTIMATE SOLUTION 9000, it's just a way to reduce clogs on Moddb.
The error is normal, don't worry about it, use the installer, you'll get the mods.
Try reinstalling the game and see if the vanilla anomaly crashes the drivers
every exe from the anomaly files to the gamma install are on admin and I've tried every other property option on them on top
done that and it doesn't.
I have a separate anomaly install and it also runs fine
Maybe one of the graphics mod gamma uses is the culprit. Try following #old-framerate-optimisation to disable most of them and run the game in Dx10 mode
anyone having problems with non stop radiation after the update? seems like few people do, im in endgame gear and still get some poisioning, seems like bug. From a simple search seems like few people have the same issue
I'll get to it then. damn
So.. got another crash, this time I have absolutely no idea what could have caused it. I only killed a few mercs, disassembled their outfit and took the guns
Here's the logs in case (I'm sure I did something this time)
regular anomaly is launching with the gamma loading screen
is that supposed to happen?
Is safe disassembly enabled?
Nop, should I have it ?
Nope just checking
if its after applying the 152 update yes
if its after a gamma addon install no
hello, when i enter the red forest my hud bugs out/can't open the inventory/after some time can't open the pda etc plz help
Busyhands bug load earlier save and disable any extra animations
Need help PLS. My old save crashes everytime I load it. new games work
ok i'll try and get back to you
does this happen all the time or was it a one time thing?
Bump to this error, asked yesterday and was missing mods so guessing it’s this
!zip ignore it
This problem is already known, the zip isn't a FULL ULTIMATE SOLUTION 9000, it's just a way to reduce clogs on Moddb.
The error is normal, don't worry about it, use the installer, you'll get the mods.
Okie will reinstall everything and see if it’s good
One time thing, but it happened so hard (game froze for one sec/same with the sound before CTD), I thought I had something broken
(usually when I have a problem game just down itself without doing that)
Hello good people of the Zone, does anyone know what is the cause of this? First pic is my game, numbers are so small and i play on 1080p.. and second pic is from Drewski's gameplay and numbers are bigger, i saw same bigger numbers on Klean's stream
did you disable any mods mid-save
Did the Update and enabled all I had enabled previous
you might have but the log doesnt say much to me.
