🤖🐛🦑helldivers

[light nymph]

It is nice. But also a great way to deflect any hate aswel.
"oh man the prices in the game store are getting way more expencive"
"yea but you can get it for free"

[plain bough]

The Killzone collab is expensive even if you can farm for free

[grizzled dagger]

But so far this has been the only thing thats been expensive

[plain bough]

this is just half of the total too

[light nymph]

that sort of mindset is literally how the lootbox cancer started
"It's not THAT expensive"

the word that you fail to add is "yet"

[grizzled dagger]

We can only wait and see how it pans out

[light nymph]

The whole set will cost you 1975sc, which is either 20Eur and you'll be left with change OR 21.96Eur if you farm up like 50sc

the pricing is also deliberate to entice you to buy more in the future

by not selling the even amount of SC's you need to get the full pack

a very popular trick that a lot of premium stores use

so basically, they are selling you a 20EUR SKIN

Fuck that

greddy shit heads

most likely SONY

[plain bough]

Sony saw the Game Awards and thought they can squeeze more milk outta HD2

[light nymph]

yea, the precident for HD2 monitezation has been set, it's only gonna go downhill from here

[plain bough]

Got 200 SC in half an hour, not bad

I always feel like just after a warbond releases the SC rates go up considerably

[tired pilot]

are servers packed?

[plain bough]

Cause of the Killzone collab

[tired pilot]

lmao

[fast spindle]

tbh

[tired pilot]

isnt killzone that one cool asf anime with the tanky ass german soldiers?

[fast spindle]

i think new players are better cash than selling a skin pack

i hope the SC rates arent shit

[tired pilot]

dawg, its 500sc for the body armour alone

wont lie tho

the helmet alone is cool as fuck

[viral shadow]

no?

killzone is a game series

[tired pilot]

oh

they look very similar.

cool asf helmets tho

[plain bough]

You're probably talking about Jin-Roh the Wolf Brigade

[tired pilot]

YES

dude... imagine- collab with JIN-ROH

[plain bough]

I wouldn't be surprised

[tired pilot]

it'd be awesome- although that is my opinion

it'd need to fit in somehow with the game lore

[plain bough]

Honestly I'd expect a Warhammer 40K collab in the future, maybe guardsman type armor and lasguns or bolters

[tired pilot]

REAL

[plain bough]

chainsword most likely too

[tired pilot]

imperial guardsmen and maybe kriegs or something

[tired pilot]

that'd be peak

maybe a thunder hammer?

or power sword

[plain bough]

Unsure if a human can wield a thunder hammer

tho a small power sword is reasonable

[tired pilot]

true

if i wasn't tired i'd be saying all sorts of nerd shit

my coffee aint workin yet

[plain bough]

Guess I'm spending the next 2 weeks farming 4K for the entire collab tho

[narrow trout]

WAIT

KILLZONE TBING OUT?

[tired pilot]

yeah

[viral shadow]

slightly expensive

[narrow trout]

Jesus

Awh it aint the sniper armor

[tired pilot]

helmet is dope tho

[plain bough]

This is the first half of the collab

[eager cliff]

Concord Tax

Sony has a lot of money to make up back

Wouldnt suprise me if all their games now will get an increase in price in the mtx department

[graceful compass]

Don’t worry it’ll also be $20 on the 23rd

[sharp kindle]

wtf the collab is today

i didnt farm the creds

[plain bough]

It's half the collab, prepare your ass for more

[sharp kindle]

[plain bough]

I would've preferred this collab being a Warbond instead for like 1.5-2K SC

[sharp kindle]

yeah thats a bit

for it being superstore

1970 sc

[earnest stag]

[sharp kindle]

im not sure if i can farm that

[plain bough]

We need to come and farm together, but later

[earnest stag]

I bought 1k for a warbond then it came to SS and i didnt have enough

Got the title,helmet and gun

SC gone

[sharp kindle]

[plain bough]

I got gun and title,

still need another 1.2K for the rest

[earnest stag]

Its a good mid between lib and penetrstor lib

My new favourite gun

[plain bough]

I'm interested in the plasma sniper rifle

[tired pilot]

i've tested it, slightly longer reload time and bigger muzzle flash but is super cool, i paired it with the new light armour from the new pass for better use

plus.. remind me of a certain gun from black ops 3

[sharp kindle]

[muted fossil]

Gotta correct myself on something

The bile spew has been updated to do acid damage

its no longer explosive damage

[sharp kindle]

[muted fossil]

wait, I need to drop to test

something fucky

Ok no I am right

its been updated to acid

I just fucking smacked into a rock and got melted by the impact and thought I was wrong

[graceful compass]

$7 liberator sidegrade

[muted fossil]

but Im saving my spare farmed sc for the 23rds super store

[plain bough]

I'm going full retard, buying everything

[muted fossil]

I want everything, but I havent started my farming yet

[graceful compass]

What do the super credit farms look like these days

[muted fossil]

same as always

[plain bough]

Same

[muted fossil]

drop a level 1/2 and run around hitting pois

[plain bough]

difficulty 1 running around POIs

[muted fossil]

pick a map thats known to be flat and go wild

[graceful compass]

Hooray

[muted fossil]

its not as bad in practice

I do it with a friend and we talk shit while we do them

just treat it as a chill out session with some gaming

[plain bough]

1.9K just for this portion of the SC store, we still have another armor set and possibly 2 guns on the 23rd

[muted fossil]

possibly 2 guns and the wasp on 23rd

[plain bough]

better hope not wasp is on SC

[muted fossil]

Light armor, helmet, 2 guns, strat, cape is the same amount of items as this rotation no?

doubt they'll do two titles, two cards,

[graceful compass]

I’d think the wasp would be the “MO reward” mentioned

[plain bough]

Nothing saying they can't make the second half smaller with just the armor and weapons

[muted fossil]

true

but I assume that if this was sony pushing it from warbond to super store

[plain bough]

Most likely

[muted fossil]

that we wont see smart decision here

[plain bough]

Sony saw all the good publicity from game awards + player numbers and new players

Wanted to capitalize on that

[muted fossil]

sony been trying to get in here, and iirc pilstedt mentioned a collab being difficult to work out months ago already

or a month and a half back

when he was interested in trench crusade collab

[earnest stag]

Astro bot collab when

We kill them obviously

Helldivers is already in Astrobot

I know

[muted fossil]

I'd like to see a ratchet and clank collab

[earnest stag]

Yeeeeee

Fuckkng furries

[graceful compass]

They are already all over the HD2 cord nothing changes

[muted fossil]

I want the collab cause I wanna see which guns they manage to bring to hd2

cause the babiest ratchet and clank gun is a tactical nuke in a normal universe xD

[glass owl]

Waking up to see the collab is not a warbond but some fomo bullshit in the superstore does NOT feel very democratic

I’m normally not a big fan of review bombing but they’re really asking for it this time

[graceful compass]

Concord tax

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103229065395191849/1318967849993109516/image0.jpg?ex=67644008&is=6762ee88&hm=5708171a1b86d554e25da58b0a5af0a5b8a71648545a58a16f13ed0cea179266&

[potent leaf]

https://fixvx.com/JosephF62710202/status/1869349830239334888

petition to add squid emoji/ufo to channel name

[muted fossil]

I cant even figure out what weapon they're holding

[graceful compass]

Something modded

The anime voice is also modded eagle-1

[muted fossil]

shrug

the gun looks just enough like a gigantic liberator for me to get stuck on it xD

[graceful compass]

Yeah idk what mod that is since it’s not the MDR one. I didn’t look at all the gun reskins

[earnest stag]

@eager cliff add the squids

[eager cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-we-do-not-we-do-not-care-steelers-nfl-gif-19783307

[earnest stag]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-care-gif-22512954

[plain bough]

Dew it you gooner

[true basin]

Well well well

[latent zodiac]

why is this shit so expensive, jesus

310 for a helmet/cape

the gun being 600 is the only understandable part

[grizzled dagger]

The wasp launcher is fun

[earnest stag]

what does it do

[plain bough]

Fires off missiles, either separately with a 7 rocket salvo or airburst mode with lockon feature on both

comes with a backpack

Welp time to farm for SC again

[true basin]

Ooooo, the wasp launcher sounds fun

I like the air burst launcher so might have to use that one

[valid hedge]

i'm going to be doing some soon, want to join me?

[plain bough]

yeh

We're gonna need alot of SC jesse

[valid hedge]

alright

[valid hedge]

do you want steam or helldiver code

[plain bough]

I'm already in the friend list

[valid hedge]

people who have different discord and steam handles

i can never keep track or remember

[plain bough]

I'll legitimately use 5 different names across accounts lol

[valid hedge]

[plain bough]

Lobby private it says

[valid hedge]

i just set it to friends now

hmmm

i set it to public now

[latent zodiac]

the hell

obj and extract are right on top of eachother

[grizzled dagger]

ez

[true basin]

[thick hazel]

made (unofficial) helldivers 2 music what ya'll think
https://youtu.be/97PF-iiboo0

[earnest stag]

[valid hedge]

tacobober, i, a friend of my brother and shiyon be farming SC

i got the gun, helm and armor for the helghast so far

[fast spindle]

ok...

im wondering if this is gonna be like

random rotation panel

they 2nd panel for crossover/special rotations

[earnest stag]

it will definetly come back some day

[fast spindle]

makfar i forgot to sleep

[valid hedge]

brother

in christ

[fast spindle]

[grizzled dagger]

Stewpid

[pale hollow]

The fucking Killzone shit is so fucking expensive you could buy like 3 warbonds for the price of both the regular infantry and the sniper stuff , since you get 300 sc back when doing warbonds.

And the armour has a unique passive, I should have known the devs would do this, I did play the microtransaction (sorry, 'DLC') hell that was the OG Helldivers, at least shit went on sale sometimes

[graceful compass]

Yeah HD1 was a lot worse which is funny in retrospect

[pale hollow]

Imagine being a new player in Helldivers 2 though, the insane amount of money/grind to get everything because you haven't been drip fed

At least in HD1 you just forked over a small bit of cash for all the DLC on sale

[graceful compass]

That was only after several years of it being out

[pale hollow]

People also keep vehemently defending AH for their microtransactions model in HD2 by saying that you can just grind stuff for free, completely ignoring the fact that it takes an incredible amount of time or is extremely repetitive and boring. Maybe with the new vehicle stratagem it will be less cancer

[graceful compass]

Even then it is marginally better since it’s all technically attainable in game. It’s a terrible cop out for greedy business models, but I’m happier to have an option to get stuff for free than not

These paid stratagems can fuck right off, same with superstore guns

[pale hollow]

Also, I don't mind paying a bit of extra money in a long term live service game, despite already purchasing it.... But the type of things they put in the warbonds and the insane price in the Super Store sours the experience quite a bit.

[graceful compass]

Same with unique passives on armor exclusive to super store (as bad as the KZ crossover stuff is)

[pale hollow]

I was honestly hyped for a Killzone warbond, only for them to pull this shit. so disappointing.

[graceful compass]

I’d likely have bought it were it a warbond tbh. Would have been annoyed as fuck if it was more expensive, but would have preferred it to superstore rotation shit

Like I really don’t want to go farm credits but that’s what I’m gonna go do

[latent zodiac]

i feel like this was a sony thing, doesn't really seem like a pilestadt or arrowhead thing

[graceful compass]

Concord tax, yeah it’s obvious that’s what it is

[pale hollow]

Nah, it 100% seems like an AH thing

[latent zodiac]

but yeah, its honestly way to damn expensive for less then a warbond page worth of content

[pale hollow]

I swear AH would have priced their warbonds higher were it not for them previously having said that they would be 1000 sc max

[latent zodiac]

this hasn't really happened before though, and i dont see how this corrolates to it being arrowhead

sony, the company that owns arrowhead, would 100% tell them to do this though for more profits

[pale hollow]

Have you played HD 1 ?

[latent zodiac]

since they did lose about 400m from concord

[graceful compass]

To that point, at least they are firm in that for now this is them getting around it though

[pale hollow]

This is going to set a disgusting precedent for Helldivers 2, mark my fucking words.
Prepare for a Pay2Win store somewhere down the line

[valid hedge]

@fast spindle spot opened up if you want

SC farming still

[latent zodiac]

wow
a bunch of 3 dollar dlcs from 2015
surely this is equivalent to one gun and an armor set being worth 20 dollars

[pale hollow]

Well, maybe Pay2Win is a little harsh, but they are going to sell a bunch of unique shit in the store

[valid hedge]

just helped @plain bough and am helping @true basin finish up the super store aquisition of helghasting

[true basin]

[latent zodiac]

unique shit is fine
making it way to damn expensive is bad
and the rotation shit is worse, should just be fully open all the time, similar to a warbond, instead of having it rotate every few days

[plain bough]

1.9K SC spent

[latent zodiac]

i dont want to argue for that "just farm for it", because while you can just farm for it, farming for 5 hours straight for a superstore page worth twice a warbond is insane

[sharp kindle]

[latent zodiac]

and the fact that its 6 items, and ONE page of a warbond has 8, and every warbond is 3 pages

[sharp kindle]

wtf

how fast are you farming this

[true basin]

He's hacking

[valid hedge]

goes hard

[plain bough]

fast enough in a squad

[true basin]

Killzone is that tou

[latent zodiac]

idk about @plain bough , but iv been farming since about 8:30, and its 2:11 rn. and iv still got about 500 sc to go before i have the armor

iv been doing it alone though

[valid hedge]

how long have we been farming

i didn't check the start time

[plain bough]

I had 500SC from Urban Legends warbond and playing during the Illuminate phase

[valid hedge]

doesn't feel all that long to me

[plain bough]

got the rest in this farm in 2hrs+

[valid hedge]

grind with a full party is mega fast

[pale hollow]

With inflation it equals about 4 dollars, which is 400 sc.
For that you can not even get a gun in the superstore

[sharp kindle]

yeah that sound about the speed i would do it alone

[latent zodiac]

is the Killzone gun the first in the superstore? i thought there was one before it, and it was quite a bit less then 610 sc

[valid hedge]

i only need 60 creds for the banner

[pale hollow]

We had the melee batton as the only other weapon, but this is only the beginning.
"Wow, such considerate pro gamer devs, everyone should praise them" -Some Idiots online paraphrased

[plain bough]

1.9K SC for just this half of the Killzone collab, 23rd is when the second part drops on the SC store

[valid hedge]

gotta grind extra

[pale hollow]

wait, 1.9k for just these 6 items?

[plain bough]

yeah

[valid hedge]

but shouldn't take too long if you're with me

[plain bough]

There's at least another armor set + 2 guns minimum

[pale hollow]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT...... that is like 6 full warbonds in price for both sets

[valid hedge]

i got 1 more slot open if someone wants to grind with me spanish and shiyon

[plain bough]

It's extremely expensive yeah

[latent zodiac]

the average super store armor is about 250, plus 150 with helmet
there are some exceptions, that are 400 for armor, but there are only 3

[plain bough]

They should've made this into a warbond that cost 2K or something

[valid hedge]

heh

any takers?

[latent zodiac]

jesus you are tiring to interact with when you're like this

im pretty sure if sony had more of a hand in helldivers development, superstore armor and warbonds would be fomo as hell, and be more costly

[valid hedge]

@sharp kindle

i got a spot

[latent zodiac]

and i never praised the developers for this, matter of fact its the opposite
i just dont think this is arrowheads deal, and that its more then possible sony is pushing arrowhead to make helldivers more profitable in terms of microtransaction stuff

[sharp kindle]

sure i can do a bit

[pale hollow]

Uhhhhh, I am not paraphrasing you..... I would not say "Some Idiots online" in that case......

[valid hedge]

dm or something

[sharp kindle]

shion can inv me

[latent zodiac]

[pale hollow]

I have simply seen a lot of people online sucking that AH cock all the way to the base

[valid hedge]

alright join

[latent zodiac]

fair enough, iv seen that to
but thats normal for every game out there
and you can't say that it wasn't heavily implied, or at least incredibly easy to misinterpret what you said as being targeted

[sharp kindle]

game is opening

[valid hedge]

don't look at it to make it load faster

[pale hollow]

I assume the primary reason you interpreted it that way was because of our old argument that was based around that exact same kind of insulting behaviour which we hopefully have put behind us

[latent zodiac]

hopefully, but im more peeved about how long the mute was, and how they worded it like i went into your dms and kept it going

[eager cliff]

as i said to alex as well

Concord Tax is upon us

Sony has a 400 mil hole in their pockets , time to make it back

[pale hollow]

By the by, I didn't even report you.

[latent zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-what-i'm-saying-gif-7253831839394134095

[latent zodiac]

iedy had a bone to pick it seems

[eager cliff]

i am power hungry and i hate everyone

[latent zodiac]

does someone need to jingle eagle-1 smut in front of you like keys to fix your mood?

[pale hollow]

We need to harness the energy of your limitless hatred to fuel a power plant in Romania, so all the kids can have free electricity come Christmas

[eager cliff]

i mean

wouldnt say no to it

[latent zodiac]

about what i thought

[eager cliff]

everyone in romania gets coal

so they fuel the great communist machi - oh wait this is not 1980 anymore

[pale hollow]

Yeah, you have to modernise, a pack of AA batteries should be the modern equivalent of a lump of coal 👍

One of the small packs

[plain bough]

Work in the lithium mines, get me some batteries

[pale hollow]

A lump of lithium

[valid hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/five-hundred-cigarettes-bortus-orville-cigarettes-500-gif-7580742793072271551

5000 super credit

[pale hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103229065395191849/1261846899292508180/500-stims.gif

[valid hedge]

the grind will go by in no time

[true basin]

[valid hedge]

me and shiyon are already done with the store

grinding for the next

[true basin]

Imagine

(Me who still has like 4 warbonds I gotta get)

[valid hedge]

oh boy

[true basin]

Aside from the Chem one

That'll be last

[pale hollow]

The gas nades are really nice against the voteless, and the rover is good on bugs.

[sacred tapir]

i mean, i dont need that but it wouldnt bother me (im poisoned by the internet)

[graceful compass]

i get home from work

where squid go

[valid hedge]

they finished their attack

another will probably start in 15-30 min

[sharp kindle]

[valid hedge]

the gun is very cool lookin

spots open

@true basin

@fast spindle ?

(two spots to be specific)

[true basin]

I'm at work rn

[valid hedge]

oh

[graceful compass]

sc farmin?

[pale hollow]

Apparently the Killzone shit was supposed to be an actual warbond, instead of a horrendous moneygrab

[eager cliff]

Yep but the MONEYY

[grizzled dagger]

Im too old to care anymore

[latent zodiac]

did anybody else know that the laser canon could open up boxes?

because i didn't until just now

[valid hedge]

yes

i've already gotten everything in the store and some extra

sitting on 660

[grizzled dagger]

I need to farm tonight

[graceful compass]

been a while since ive done it but i need to catch up on shit sp

[valid hedge]

i'm helping everyone farm rn

[graceful compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382156564758396929/1315336625839935598/image0.gif

[pale hollow]

Man, fuck off with that. (this is the CEO of AH)
Uhhh, buy the overpriced shit with real money or no Illuminates shit for the poors

[graceful compass]

this was the statement that kinda irked me

[eager cliff]

Yeah this sounded very bullshit

Basically the more money you give us , the more development we do to the game

Like brother

[graceful compass]

said this in another server, ive seen it mentioned a couple times

[pale hollow]

Alright daz it, back to disliking the game on Steam

[eager cliff]

We can keep dropping for free

Mate u just asked for money

[pale hollow]

[eager cliff]

??????????????

[graceful compass]

posting this in hd2 media

[eager cliff]

Thats the Gearbox CEO coming out or whatever piece of shit company was CEO before AH

[graceful compass]

aw man not randy bitchford

[eager cliff]

not gearbox mate

damn

Square Enix

i think

[graceful compass]

uh

[eager cliff]

whichj.....were balls deep in NFTs

[graceful compass]

fuck

[eager cliff]

( they massively failed )

[graceful compass]

randy is still a top tier bitch so

[eager cliff]

fuck Randy Pitchfork and Neil Cuckman

[pale hollow]

Also, why does the Killzone stuff include the Helghan Empire insignia? That makes no sense in the Helldivers universe.... Like hello? they don't even have Managed Democracy

[eager cliff]

Have to because it's a direct Killzone coop thinige

[eager cliff]

Brothers

Where the FUCK is the DSS

[graceful compass]

nowehre :3

[eager cliff]

Illuminates were back , we literally got alert to abandon all MOs

AND THE FUCKING STATION DIDNT GO THERE

LMAO

[graceful compass]

they sent it to fuck off nowhere while they figure out how to make it less stupid

[valid hedge]

i keep asking this

[eager cliff]

[valid hedge]

why is it still off

[eager cliff]

its in the middle of the bot front

[graceful compass]

bc everyone hated it so much ig

[eager cliff]

yeah the DSS was a fat L

reminds me of Lightkeeper on Tarkov

hyped for nothing

[pale hollow]

Yeah but still, I think they even said they wanted to avoid immersion breaking colabs before....

[graceful compass]

i mean its not fat assed nikke characters so theres that

[pale hollow]

Shoe character?

[graceful compass]

but killzone basically hasnt existed since shadowfall iirc

crossovers still feel weird here

go to send a funny image to brainfart and its locked down and delight is banned

i love this server

[grizzled dagger]

I miss him every day

[pale hollow]

Wait what!?
I have not been keeping up

[grizzled dagger]

Yeah he made iedy mad

So he killed him with a 500kg

[eager cliff]

i mean he turned into an annoying prick but he made everyone mad , even grok

[grizzled dagger]

[graceful compass]

apparently whatever has happened got scrubbed so

[grizzled dagger]

Dont worry about it kitten

Kittendiver

[eager cliff]

he mad a very poor antisemitic joke and it was the end of it it seems

[graceful compass]

classy

[grizzled dagger]

Wait how did he piss off grok

[eager cliff]

He did a lot of shit man , and a lot was reported / seen by grok as well

We had a tab on him for a while

[pale hollow]

Delight truly went from being on the edge of the rules, to joining staff, to getting kicked out, to getting banned. Wild

[graceful compass]

yeah i saw stuff that was questionable a couple times from a while back iirc fun fun

does slugger still break doors?

fine grabbing my crossbow to solo farm sc

damnit

[grizzled dagger]

The ultimate crash out

[graceful compass]

solo sc farm

3 consecutive bunkers

fuck me

[valid hedge]

[grizzled dagger]

Dont solo

[red jetty]

I forget who posted this in fartbrain but this was hilarious

[grizzled dagger]

Dummy

[valid hedge]

if you need to grind i'm still with shiyon for super credits

just ask

[pale hollow]

🕐 🧓 🥛

[graceful compass]

sned halp

[valid hedge]

send helldiver or steam code in dm

[red jetty]

We better get a Santa themed set for christmas

[graceful compass]

he said in dm

[pale hollow]

hat: 400 sc
suit: 800 sc

[red jetty]

Maybe an eagle 1 reskin to be Santa and his sleigh

Drops presents instead of bombs

500KG is a big present sack

Strafing run is candy canes or icicles

[valid hedge]

pending

[graceful compass]

ok uh, imma grab dinner rq actually and just pop in in a moment

[plain bough]

Diff 10 and no super samples spawned on the map

[graceful compass]

urban moment

[valid hedge]

crazy

[balmy spire]

live service done right mfs when they put a rifle in the super store for 600 super credits which is 100 super credits off a full warbond

[latent zodiac]

uuuuugh

finally

the rifles alright

[graceful compass]

fuxk that worthless armor lol

[valid hedge]

@grizzled dagger need some grindin as well?

[latent zodiac]

good for illuminate, basically a lesser stalwart

dunno why i said that twice
grinding has been melting my fucking brain

[grizzled dagger]

Sure

What lvl you farming

[grizzled dagger]

Lobby private cant join

[valid hedge]

oop

[valid hedge]

its public now

join quick

so i don't have to feel bad kicking randoms

[grizzled dagger]

Trying

[muted fossil]

station got sabotaged on squid reveal

[true basin]

Some rando wanted for treason sabotaged our beloved station

[sharp kindle]

very funny choice of words indeed

[true basin]

I love that

"Hey it's optional....however will lock content behind dlcs if yall don't hand over your wallets."

Like you can't say it's optional and then proceed to say if you don't Pay for it, future content will have to be bought

[graceful compass]

side affect of no more real community manager

[red jetty]

just brainstorming: I think it would be cool if we got an armor set that had a trait that improves the heat dissipation of laser weaponry, or increases the amount of heat before the heatsink bricks

"thermal conduit" or something

armor could have a lot of heat fins or heatsinks strapped to it

[graceful compass]

buffs laser shit would be cool

[red jetty]

maybe your stuff has double the heat capacity but if you go over the standard heat limit, it slowly damages you but lets you keep firing

cause your armor is burning up

[valid hedge]

liquid cooled armor

more stamina and longer laser weapons

[red jetty]

that could work too

[true basin]

[sacred tapir]

me calmly shooting a guy and kicking him before extract to not lose xp for a dead helldiver:

(it was slightly funny and he was a turret user)

[graceful compass]

what the turret player do

[sacred tapir]

use autocannon

and it almost kills me

every. fucking. time.

like bro stop using it when IM NEAR THE ENEMY

actual mongaloids

[red jetty]

hurr durr

teammates will be stupid no matter the game

[sacred tapir]

but like? how is that so hard

when they are lvl 130

like bitch you been here since creek probably

[red jetty]

i don't know the dynamics but some people are just retarded

[sacred tapir]

i been here like 2 weeks and i got the sense not to do that

i dont use turrets tbf

im an eagle orb guy

and i use OPS not barrage

fucking LOVE the OPS on bugs

not so much on bots imo its eh

they are harder to hit directly

[grizzled dagger]

@valid hedge open up

[valid hedge]

oh

[tired pilot]

I AM CRAZY FROG

[valid hedge]

let me get through this loading screen

[sacred tapir]

hulks are less fat than chargers, and striders arent too common on lvl 7 (i hate going above 8, it isnt as fun)

[sacred tapir]

[graceful compass]

many turret gamers dont know how to not play bad turrets

[valid hedge]

join now dandy

[sacred tapir]

i use them on defense only

never needed a turret to save my ass normally, sure they can help

with some co-ordination

like "imma toss this turret over there, dont stand near the enemies"

but nah, lemme just fuck you over

[red jetty]

i hate how trying to run youtube while doing anything makes my PC run like dogshit

[sacred tapir]

XD why you using yt

for anything

[red jetty]

background noise

[sacred tapir]

music?

[sacred tapir]

or a video

[red jetty]

videogame critiques

4 hour video on why new saints row sucks

[graceful compass]

yeah

ppl suck at games next news story

[sacred tapir]

i will legit behead a mf if i gotta pay for illuminate stuff

[sharp kindle]

https://vxtwitter.com/JosephF62710202/status/1869349830239334888

[plain bough]

Oh, just figured out the Wasp Launcher is from Killzone 3, guess we'll be seeing in the SC store next week lol

[pale hollow]

If a gun is 600 sc, then a stratagem must be 900

[plain bough]

Another 2K cost inbound for the total rotation

[pale hollow]

It makes sense even, because they won't have the title for the next store rotation, so they are going to need another thing... this thing gon' be the Wasp

[plain bough]

Yeah I think I got it nailed down now

Light armor set, Cape, Plasma sniper, Bizon SMG and Wasp Launcher

full 6 items

[graceful compass]

if the strat isnt just free imma cry

[valid hedge]

inb4 still comes out as warbond

[grizzled dagger]

Nice

[valid hedge]

if anyone needs a grind partner still i'll be around per usual

just taking break atm

[grizzled dagger]

Im shitting my brains out

[valid hedge]

bad food or just bad stomach

[grizzled dagger]

Bad food in guessing

[valid hedge]

the illuminates path seems to be towards merida if i'm making the connections right in my brain

why else would they path toward the nids

[graceful compass]

oh he spitting

he gotta point

[red jetty]

is it just me or did they buff super creds

seems like i'm finding a lot more

[valid hedge]

its certainly not hard to farm

super credit farming is also just warbond farming at the same time

so it does work out if you're still purchasing bonds

[valid hedge]

i couldn't even make it up if i tried

i say that shit

then high commands issues a warning

they heard my thought waves

[graceful compass]

i read this

and fucking died

literally issued the warning not 8 minutes after you said something

[valid hedge]

my brain notices patterns

[graceful compass]

tbf people have been pointing out changes in meridia for a little bit

[valid hedge]

wdym

have people been revisiting it?

just to stare?

[graceful compass]

and also suspecting the hole had something to do with illum

yeah

[valid hedge]

let me look at this

yeah this doesn't look how i remember it

how it used to look when we first did it.

how it looks now

very interesting

[balmy spire]

i needa grind

at 735 and I want steeled vets or cutting edge

[valid hedge]

steel vets is good cause it has the senator and dominator

cutting edge is good cause stun nade and ig arc armor now for illuminate

the guns are nice

[bleak patrol]

Yeh

Also it looks like the squids are slowly going in it's direction every time they attack

[valid hedge]

thats what i'm saying

[bleak patrol]

You know, I always wanted the hole to be a red herring

[valid hedge]

disappointed ?

[bleak patrol]

But what if they are not advancing to the hole

[bleak patrol]

It would be peak funny

Like, oh look, here's this big spooky hole that even has the correct color and shit

It actually does nothing

Get back to diving

[valid hedge]

alright

time to d(r)ive

[valid hedge]

i think this will be the next planet

so people from here are obligated to dive it

[sacred tapir]

i love when you get 2/5 stars

and these mfs say "Unremarkable Performance" like bitch id like you to do that

[bleak patrol]

No

[valid hedge]

[sacred tapir]

ayo wtf goin on

[bleak patrol]

beeg hole

[sacred tapir]

why it ourple

[fast spindle]

hi @valid hedge

i awake

[valid hedge]

hi awake

[sacred tapir]

Makfar (D(r)ive Maxx)? more like dork max

[fast spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-rage-silly-cat-bald-head-bald-cat-gif-14874789195890697183

[sacred tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-bro-you're-getting-touched-tonight-gif-14870187556092555468

[fast spindle]

[sacred tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kill-you-gif-5063683583336604795

you rn:

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[valid hedge]

give me a few minutes fro

[fast spindle]

i cant helldive rn

[grizzled dagger]

thats cause ur lame

:3

[fast spindle]

meow :3

[valid hedge]

oh

[valid hedge]

still shit braining

[grizzled dagger]

im vibin

im just finishing my shift

[valid hedge]

nice

[valid hedge]

i literally drive so good it makes people think the driving is fixed

i drive

[graceful compass]

https://tenor.com/view/i-drive-roblox-ryan-gosling-roblox-meme-ryan-gosling-driver-gif-11944193294975505809

[grizzled dagger]

stfu

im on my way

you playing or grindin

[valid hedge]

i actually was on a low level mission by myself a second ago just driving an FRV around the whole map

just enjoying the drive

[grizzled dagger]

you wanna grind more SC

or kill some squids

[valid hedge]

i wanna kill, but i'll help you grind if thats whats happening

[grizzled dagger]

im down for either

[valid hedge]

your preference man

[graceful compass]

youll always see the car on the map if it spawns right

[valid hedge]

yes

[graceful compass]

cuz im boutta practive

[grizzled dagger]

Open up

We squib killing

[valid hedge]

try now

[grizzled dagger]

Private

Still

[valid hedge]

bruh

[grizzled dagger]

Finally they need to fix this shit

[true basin]

Did i hear squid killing

[valid hedge]

yes

we just killed

still will

[valid hedge]

are you off work

[true basin]

yeah, though I'm gonna play poe tonight me thinks

[grizzled dagger]

wooow

fuck u bober

[true basin]

nah i'm kidding, i'll join lmao

need to farm super creds and samples

[grizzled dagger]

actually if you wanna farm

im down

[fast spindle]

hi dander

[grizzled dagger]

Hi frot

[fast spindle]

do u wanna helldive

[valid hedge]

he just got off cause headache

i'm grinding with bober

[fast spindle]

swag

arent super credits lobby shared

so like 300 for u is 300 for everyone

[valid hedge]

yes

[true basin]

yeag

[valid hedge]

so you hoppin?

[fast spindle]

nah

dandy aint diving :(

[valid hedge]

what am i not good enough for you

[grizzled dagger]

Lmao

Thats rough makfar

[valid hedge]

you'll never get peak driver now fro

[valid hedge]

I Was so right

[true basin]

[valid hedge]

look fro

you made bober sad

[valid hedge]

[grizzled dagger]

Frick bober

He stole my bunker

So i shot him for treason

[valid hedge]

i shot him for funny

[muted fossil]

[true basin]

[valid hedge]

👟

[true basin]

[valid hedge]

i'm so rich rn

basically got 5000 super credits today

spend 2k

[fast spindle]

[fast spindle]

nah im not tripping these flying mfs are overtuned

literally 8 slugger shots to the head to kill ONE

cant hit the pack because they zip around and guns have weird mouse acceleration on em

yeah i aint playing these squids anymore, literally no breathing room at all with the zombies that move faster than you and eat 4x more rounds than bugs

[heavy heart]

Their heads are more bullet proof than their torsos

As for the zombies... Do what you're meant to, they're one or two clicks to the head from quite a lot of guns and you can run circles around them in light armour.

[fast spindle]

im in light armor and the second i turn around to shoot after kiting and gaining distance

they're like right behind me every time

they're just worse feeling to fight than bugs or bots

[heavy heart]

I dislike how much HP the larger dudes all have, as it feels like it's pretty much just run an HMG

[fast spindle]

AMR is nice but the melee dudes take 1 headshot/2 bodywhile the flying guys are like

3x that

[heavy heart]

it's entirely ineffectuel vs tripods

[fast spindle]

shoot eye

[heavy heart]

It's still like, a magazine per tripod.

Y'know what kills them faster and easier, but also deals with all the other dudes? HMG.

[valid hedge]

2 charged purifier shots

[fast spindle]

i dont have that

[heavy heart]

Lib pen works alright, although someone was raving abou the adjudicator in another game.

[fast spindle]

might have to try that

lib pen is aight but i literally cant aim unless first person mode and the scopes in this game are cheeks

[heavy heart]

getting the hang of shooting in third person is kinda helpful.

Makes a lot of the more sluggish weapons much more flexible

[valid hedge]

medium pen will do you fine otherwise

[heavy heart]

Just not the slugger, it never recovered from being nerfed to hell.

[fast spindle]

it one taps heads on em if you can even hit heads

the arc is fucked on that round

literally 20 feet away, shoot at head, hit chest

[heavy heart]

The DMRs one taps headshots on everything too, but isn't gimped by slow fire rates and literal lobbed shell arcs

Oh, btw, you can stunlock chargers with stun batons.

Haven't got around to testing it on titans hough

[valid hedge]

that won't last long

[heavy heart]

I dunno, the charger does still kill you if you touch it, even stunned, so it's more meme value than practical use... although I fully expect melee armour + baton to get nerfed.

[eager cliff]

action is coming

so the squids are slowly attacking plantes closer and closer to Meridia

[valid hedge]

latedy

[eager cliff]

which is prob the portal

hell yea

we fucked

[valid hedge]

did you see my check of the black hole iedy

[eager cliff]

no bro i dont live here

[valid hedge]

#🤖🐛🦑helldivers message

[eager cliff]

yeah

action is coming

[valid hedge]

can't wait till the new ayyys come through

to synergize with the seers and harvesters

[eager cliff]

[valid hedge]

[fast spindle]

[eager cliff]

oh yeah they were retarded 100%

[valid hedge]

smh

when mf'ers can't figure out how to set to friends only

[eager cliff]

now this dude looks exactly like me

[light nymph]

oh no

[eager cliff]

higher priced warbond

what do you mean mate

why higher priced

[light nymph]

because money

[eager cliff]

the previous warbonds were nice but lacking ngl

they talk as if we got some crazy warbonds, this warbond with 3 strategems was the first good one

in a while

and locking good strategems behind warbonds is shit

so yeah

L after L

[light nymph]

it was kind of ass. only 1 weapon and a skin that you can't even use

[valid hedge]

yet

[light nymph]

You can't even use

[valid hedge]

car soon™️

[light nymph]

for the skin you can't even use

[eager cliff]

ragdolled the leader with a strategem just a bit

he got mad

we got kids playing helldivers today

[valid hedge]

you should host your own ig

[eager cliff]

i will cause fuck their mother

[valid hedge]

true

[eager cliff]

ngl i would be down for some SC farming later if u guys have space

i guess i wanna buy the helmet at least

[valid hedge]

for me its 3am and i'm about to sleep

[eager cliff]

[valid hedge]

i'd help you if i could

[eager cliff]

we will see when we sync up no worries

go get that sleep son

[light nymph]

only 3 am? Rookie numbers

[valid hedge]

i was helping everyone else

[light nymph]

gotta pump that insomnia up!

[valid hedge]

this was after all the purchases today

[eager cliff]

that is crazy i have no idea how

you play on diff 3?

[valid hedge]

2

not much difference

if any

[eager cliff]

ah ez

[valid hedge]

map/planet is what matters the most

i was using the uh

fire planet on terminids

not hellmire but something else

P smth?

idk

tired

anyway

aw

partion

thats it

[earnest stag]

I be up for farming SC too

[valid hedge]

go help iedy

[muted fossil]

makfar and I both ended our farming at 3am respectively

[balmy spire]

game is 40 dollars btww

I dont think even fortnite makes any battlepasses higher priced

if I see a stratagem on the super store I am actually going to crash out

[plain bough]

Wasp Launcher in SC store I'd bet

[balmy spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304924322950807652/1318718081111162993/batz92n2k1481.gif

You're actually right

That's exactly what will happen

[plain bough]

It most likely will cause I learned yesterday the Wasp Launcher is from Killzone itself lol

[heavy heart]

If they charged 100 SC for each bit in the super store, it'd still come out as more expensive than a normal one and I'd mostly be okay.

[balmy spire]

There is going to be a cool as shit energy sniper rifle that is going to be in the super store too

[heavy heart]

but the fact that his is gonna work out to like, 3000 sc? Stupid.

[balmy spire]

it currently already works out to basically 2 warbonds

When you factor in that each warbond has given you 300 sc

[plain bough]

All the price, none of the refunds

[balmy spire]

watch the cool sniper be 1000 sc

Didnt they say they wouldnt put anything that wasnt cosmetics in the super store

And also no stratagems inw arbonds

[eager cliff]

this was before Sony dumped 400 mil into Concord mate

all of this , is not Arrowhead

It's Sony pushing from above , i feel most microtransactions in all their games will see a bump soon

They shat on their finances this year

HD is one of the most succesful games with solid playerbases so yeah , ofc they went with it

[balmy spire]

?

Is that not them saying that they themselves made this decision on their own free will

[eager cliff]

do you really believe the words of a CEO mate

if he tells you pigs are flying you believe him ?

[balmy spire]

I do when it is in detriment to his own game

[eager cliff]

suit yourself then

[balmy spire]

No reason to be aggressive

Maybe its not them but why should I care about that

That's money spent anwyays

The prices going up is still an issue no matter who is doing this

[graceful compass]

Shams has been saying some stupid shit this whole time

[graceful compass]

Tbh you gotta look back at HD1 dlc

They will nickel and dime this shit as much as they can within some kind of “standard” they have for themselves

And I don’t think it’s just Sony either

In any case I love seeing people compare this shit to the same exact thing that happened with destiny 2 like 5 years ago

“Erm guys you bought enough skins for this gun we could afford to make new endgame content!!!”

Them getting bought by Sony was a brilliant power play by all the people who got their Sony money and then left, they knew the ship was crashing and look where it is now

Arrowhead is following and has been following the EXACT. SAME. PATH. (Minus the part where they are already watched by Sony)

Riding these consecutive alternating highs and lows, testing the waters, and now they are pulling the rug a little bit at a time to see what they can and can’t get away with

They are ahead of schedule in that regard, so to speak

[light nymph]

GOD FUCKING DAMINT ARROW HEAD!
STOP MAKING ME HATE YOU AND THEN DO SOMETHING INCREADIBLY NICE REGARDING THE ISSUE YOU MADE

altho I'm well aware that this might just be damage control by giving away some stuff for free so that we would forget about their fucky wuky

[plain bough]

They're backtracking and offering the second half for free?

[light nymph]

seems like it

don't know about the "backtracking" part

[plain bough]

offering concessions then

[light nymph]

Also the wording on the WASP is very sus... We're they planning on locking it behind a stupid paywall?

[muted fossil]

it was already going to be a mo reward, I think they're just saying it more clearly for those who implied it would be in superstore as a strategem

[plain bough]

Wasp was from Killzone 3 apparently, so I'm pretty sure they were gonna put a price on it

[light nymph]

[plain bough]

https://killzone.fandom.com/wiki/StA-X3_W.A.S.P._Launcher

[light nymph]

yea... Sounds like they realised how ABSOLUTELY fucked they would be if they had released it as is and decided to NOT do that

[muted fossil]

I give them benefit of the doubt on this all tbh

they were worried about doing a priced up warbond when most people would only want some of the items

they split it to super store

people complained about priced up items that they can pick and choose instead of having to pay for all

[light nymph]

and made 1 PAGE cost 2x the ammount of a warbond

and we don't know if it would have been 2 or 3 pages

[muted fossil]

I'll bet that the collab warbond woulda cost the same as 2 pages at 1975 each

[light nymph]

20EUR FOR SOME SKINS AND A FEW GUNS IS WAY TO OVERPRICED

[muted fossil]

I can clearly see the logic having been
"People will complain about paying 4k for collab warbond if its 2 pages and armors and guns they don't use, lets make it so they can buy the items individually"

its the same logic they used for the baton in the super store

add a melee weapon in a 1000sc warbond
add a 200 sc melee weapon for those who cant afford the swipe or time to grind

[pale hollow]

If collabs have to cost 40 eurodollars then simply don't do collabs.
If they find a good way to do it in the future, cool.

[plain bough]

Armor just dropped

[heavy heart]

I guess I'll be less salty with them

[muted fossil]

sniper is super baller

[graceful compass]

It was 100% going to be free after the MO. They had heavily implied this earlier, that we would have some kind of reward for the MO. This is just them clarifying

[graceful compass]

I really said this and then they immediately turned the ship around

[graceful compass]

I can see the same logic, but their pricing was way off, and the superstore as a means of acquisition is horrid right now anyway due to the fomo rotations.

So they still deserve all the criticism they got

[muted fossil]

people missed the part of the message where they said they were looking at making it less fomo as well and fixated on the prices

either way, its interesting that their collab partner was the actual killzone studio

and not sony letting them add the stuff

[graceful compass]

Maybe some people did, but I really don’t think the majority of people complaining just missed shit

[graceful compass]

Yeah their statement about the studio directly was like “woah”

[muted fossil]

its hard to talk about it being part of a fomo rotation without ignoring that they directly said they're going to change that

[graceful compass]

They sounded like they wanted to “alleviate” it. Not get rid of it

[graceful compass]

I hope they do, but there were no specifics about it other than “we are looking at it”

Which is exactly what you just sent

[muted fossil]

yes but them saying they're going to do a full redesign is not "leave it as is"

[graceful compass]

It’s also not “getting rid of fomo” either

[muted fossil]

you dont know that yet

[graceful compass]

You don’t know the opposite either and that’s my point

[muted fossil]

I dont know the opposite, but I can see that they said full redesign

you cant assume its going to be better or worse until it hits

talking about a 3 month long rotation is ignoring that theres a change in the works

[graceful compass]

It’s not my job as a consumer to side with the business, that’s a conscious decision the individual has to make.

In the same vein, you cannot expect other people to do the same.

The point being that they did NOT “directly say they were going to change that” in regards to a Fomo system.

I expect a larger store rotation at least, maybe a permanent tab for some things like collabs and uniques if we are lucky.

[balmy spire]

okay but they could just not make a priced up warbond

[graceful compass]

As a destiny 2 refugee, arrowhead has done many of the same kind of things that bungie did, but they have corse corrected significantly faster and significantly better than bungie ever did

[muted fossil]

I didnt say anything about siding with them. I'm saying that people focused on missing out on the collab items, ignoring that they said they're going to make a change. This community specifically seems to hype and doomerize itself before anything comes out, leading to missed expectations and better than expected results.

AH said they're going to do something, wait for the something before assuming the worst.
Likewise, wait for the something before assuming the best.

[graceful compass]

We both have mostly the same opinion and yet seem to be arguing

[muted fossil]

I'm not even arguing. I'm just stating that instead of expecting something, just chill and see what comes

they've gotta release something for us to know if its good or bad

[graceful compass]

The community hypes and doomerizes because it’s live service and that’s just how the communities work

Fundamental cornerstone of that kind of game

[balmy spire]

helldivers 2 will be disastrous if the community ever stops over reacting

[muted fossil]

too many people playing this like its their only job and hobby instead of just playing the parts the like and not interacting with the parts they don't like

[balmy spire]

so its good that we keep overreacting

[muted fossil]

No

Reacting is good

overreacting is bad

[balmy spire]

reacting doesnt get an answer

[graceful compass]

Replace helldivers 2 with live service and you are correct

[balmy spire]

Also true

[muted fossil]

when the community is sending deaththreats over standard live service patch notes, its not the community being right

[graceful compass]

If people are not passionate about the live service game, there is no game

[balmy spire]

I never said anything about death threats

[muted fossil]

you can be passionate about something and still be normal about it

[muted fossil]

I said overreacting is bad

[graceful compass]

That’s unfortunately standard bullshit behavior that should be seperate

[muted fossil]

you can react to something without overreacting

[balmy spire]

By overreacting I mean what happened with the review bombing

[muted fossil]

thats a reaction

[balmy spire]

or all the complaining in their discord

[muted fossil]

overreactions is stuff that is disproportionate

[graceful compass]

Just call it organized reacting

[muted fossil]

hence

"over"reaction

you can boycott buying overpriced stuff by not buying it, thats normal reactions

[balmy spire]

I already got it

[graceful compass]

Compare live service game community reactions to other games community reactions and every reaction in helldivers 2 (and other live service) looks nuclear, they are overreactions by comparison

[balmy spire]

Yes

I couldnt quite define what I was thinking of but that does it justice

In other games the reaction is usually some mild complaining and that never accomplishes anything

[muted fossil]

[graceful compass]

Again, obsessive community reactions are a massive cornerstone of what and why live service games stay active

[muted fossil]

actually the helldivers reactions looks like league of legends patch notes reactions

which is why I can say they're just acting the same way moba players do

this character is unplayable now, my q does 50 damage instead of 60

replace with gun and its 1:1

[graceful compass]

League is another outlier

[muted fossil]

league, dota, smite, overwatch, same reactions

[graceful compass]

People are PASSIONATE about that shit

[muted fossil]

mobas and helldivers get the same kind of patch response

[balmy spire]

league players crybabing has been so healthy for the game that they even made a tv series

[graceful compass]

Yeah

Nature of the game

Similar reaction to siege devs literally killing the game which is funny

Mfw can no longer cook nades

[balmy spire]

hd2 community has even inspired other communities to react properly

Like space marines 2 when they fucked up combat

So it got review bombed to shit

[graceful compass]

People who are passionate about game patches are common everywhere in pockets, but the majority of casual players even follow the outrages with helldivers, that’s the difference

[balmy spire]

[graceful compass]

MOBA’s, live service, and fighting games

[muted fossil]

ngl I dont really agree with this

[graceful compass]

Holy trinity of reactions

[muted fossil]

I think the biggest thing for helldivers is that the gameplay loop is not sustainable to a lot of the people who originally got into it

theres a reason that l4d2 eventually died down in terms of player base

[graceful compass]

Tbh I think it’s insane that people are lvl 150

That’s just kind of a problem with coop horde games

[balmy spire]

same

I'm at 56 and I been playign since release

[muted fossil]

(when I say some people treat this as a full time job, this is the group I mean)

[muted fossil]

83