🛩war-thunder

[serene birch]

are those tanks extremely good? yes is every match carried by those tanks exclusively? no

[arctic granite]

...okay and?

are you going to see them in your turan III? yes, are you going to have a hard time fighting them? yes

[serene birch]

am i going to have a hard time fighting those in the panzer iv? also yes

[arctic granite]

you won't see them in the Panzer IV.

[serene birch]

in italy i sure will

[somber urchin]

Yeah which is why the german pz 4 is better

[arctic granite]

why would you play that one lmao

[somber urchin]

Thats like the whole point

[serene birch]

and if i decided to play the H for germany i will

[arctic granite]

you have a superior vehicle right there

[serene birch]

i sadly cannot grind italy with my german 3.3

[somber urchin]

A better vehicle than the 4G

[arctic granite]

The IV H has a superior gun to the G

[serene birch]

if i could i would

[arctic granite]

it's literally a better vehicle

[somber urchin]

Well it has like 15mm more armour

[arctic granite]

sounds like an issue not an ishme homie ngl

[serene birch]

better gun but not better pen

[arctic granite]

why you decided to buy an inferior panzer IV is beyond me

it also has even better features over the Turan and G so it has a genuine reason to be 3.7

(altho it should be 4.3)

[serene birch]

probably because its a good addition to a chaffee and sherman lineup

[arctic granite]

would have gone for the Hybrid over the IV G ngl

[serene birch]

i have that too, why not have both honestly

[somber urchin]

Shermans are pretty good but I prefer the 4s over the very early shermans

[arctic granite]

good goy

[eternal zenith]

what's going on now

I kinda lost track

[somber urchin]

I dunno

Roulette is having a schizo attack I think?

[arctic granite]

cope over the fact a Hungarian amalgamation isn't as good as a vehicle that is .3 below it

[eternal zenith]

which hungarian?

[arctic granite]

the G also gets APCR so it can punch well above it's weight if needed

[somber urchin]

Turan 3 I think

[arctic granite]

IV G also gets the addon tracks

[somber urchin]

Its literally a 4G but larger (which means worse)

[arctic granite]

100mm front hits different

[soft oracle]

Classic War Thunder discussion

[somber urchin]

And the cupola

is like

[eternal zenith]

does italy have a non preem IV G?

[somber urchin]

[serene birch]

sadly no

[eternal zenith]

what's the point then

[somber urchin]

Hmmm surely this is a superior vehicle!

[arctic granite]

oh my god the Turan has a 25mm turret ring

[eternal zenith]

ofc germany is better than fucking hungry

[serene birch]

to get the breda and bully everyone

[eternal zenith]

[arctic granite]

have fun getting pen'd by AA guns and .50

[serene birch]

i didnt say it was better, its on par lmao

[somber urchin]

Its not on par

its worse

[serene birch]

it is

[arctic granite]

it's straight up worse dawg

[serene birch]

its not worse and youre cappin if you think so

[eternal zenith]

having a .50 should instantly put you at br 5.0

[somber urchin]

its on par with mobility and firepower

its worse in armour layout
its worse in size

[arctic granite]

delusional

[serene birch]

acting like the Pz IV doesnt have a chromedome of its own

[somber urchin]

Its a lot less of a weakspot

smaller to hit
more armour

[arctic granite]

I mean I can still dab on IVs via their cupola but not like this monstrosity that sticks out like a sore thumb

[eternal zenith]

it's like comparing the 2s38 to the Puma. It's objectively worse

[arctic granite]

also the crew are more tightly packed meaning it dies easier

unlike the IV which can take an APHE and still survive

[serene birch]

the pz iv turret is 20mm weaker which yeah still isnt a lot but at range every little bit helps

[arctic granite]

ammo in the turret

fucking why lmao

[serene birch]

both have giant domes atop them so eh there

same pen performance

its on par when it comes to the role they play

[arctic granite]

yeah no... the IV's cupola is much smaller and lower

[somber urchin]

Not comparable

[serene birch]

cqc i'd rather have the pz iv due to size and speed because at spitting distance id rather be quicker yeah

[arctic granite]

like you're just cheating yourself using a worse vehicle at a higher BR

25mm hull

[somber urchin]

In what situation woud you rather the Turan

It has a larger turret so its easier to hit at range

[serene birch]

distance

[somber urchin]

But why

[serene birch]

a little extra armour

[somber urchin]

4G has a lower profile and same pen

[serene birch]

the pz iv turret isnt hard to hit at range

[somber urchin]

And the Turan is even easier

especially with the fuckin hat on top

[arctic granite]

and this billboard is somehow easier to miss

[somber urchin]

🧅

🧅

[serene birch]

didnt say it was easier to miss, but 20mm helps at range

[somber urchin]

🧅

[eternal zenith]

could always be worse

[arctic granite]

name a gun it'll defend against

[serene birch]

short t-34s

[eternal zenith]

one shot by the 47mm on the wheely tank

I like italy

[arctic granite]

yeah no even at 900m they're going through

[serene birch]

only reason i grinded it originally was for the breda

[arctic granite]

plus they could hit that huge turret ring and still go through

or hit the gun and also go through

[eternal zenith]

it's fun

but I kinda feel like they gimped the r20 too hard

[serene birch]

short barrel, not the regular 76

[somber urchin]

angled hull cheeks

[serene birch]

the chode one

[arctic granite]

until they reload solid shot and go through anyway

[eternal zenith]

which one? the lancia?

[serene birch]

yUCK so i was seeing if they could add a long barrel zryini that isnt the old BP one and stumbled across this

[serene birch]

t-34

[arctic granite]

L-11

(the one that's actually rare unlike 57s and STZs)

[eternal zenith]

time to strike this fool with a revision request

[serene birch]

do it

[eternal zenith]

at it

[somber urchin]

[arctic granite]

yeah the fact that your concealment is practically fucked at any given time is reason enough to take something else over it

[somber urchin]

This thing is worse than I thought

fucking cone head lookin ass

[soft oracle]

Hungarian

I think that is enough

[arctic granite]

so true

all I'm saying is

https://i.imgur.com/phfn5bT.jpeg

[serene birch]

god i hope gaijin adds the regular zyrini i in the tt so we can have a regular one

[eternal zenith]

fuck you can't even make this shit up anymore

[serene birch]

i refuse to believe thats real

[eternal zenith]

check it, fucking unhinged psychopath

added that specific picture to the page and then deleted his account

I hate redditors so much

[serene birch]

ohmygod its real

well that'll be an easy revision

(maybe if you can find a decent photo)

[eternal zenith]

You know what? They used that entry on wikipedia to be able to link it to the war thunder wiki.

the effort

[serene birch]

do a revision and use the WoT photo instead

[somber urchin]

[arctic granite]

average war thunder wiki (they don't do the one fucking thing they're there to do)

[somber urchin]

You can get free GE if you make a wiki post you know

[serene birch]

wow i love getting 5 ge B)

[eternal zenith]

is that a thing?

[somber urchin]

Yeah

[eternal zenith]

I thought it was a meme for the longest time

[somber urchin]

Its like

pennies though

[eternal zenith]

what they measure this on? You get paid if a jannie stumbles through and says "yeah, good enough"?

[somber urchin]

No idea

its probably like

500 GE per article

[serene birch]

they probably review it beforehand so you can just edit a thing and make it say "DICKS" over and over

[eternal zenith]

but by the nature of a wiki it relies on collaboration so how to even pay everyone fairly

[serene birch]

give everyone 1 mill gE B)

[eternal zenith]

yeah 1 milli GE

edit 1000 pages to get to 1

[arctic granite]

doing it for free

I shiggy diggy

[cold lichen]

"How to play F-100D"

Ok

[eternal zenith]

https://github.com/Yonisen/WarThunder_yellow_mark_rangefinder
I like the way he incorporated NN into it to estimate the position of the marker

[cold lichen]

So its just dont

Don't play it

[serene birch]

this shit has always bugged me and i decided to do some searching "historical" my ass gaijin smh

[eternal zenith]

is that black bar because windmill of peace?

[serene birch]

yes

even tho i doubt anyone who saw it would care id just rahter not even run the risk of someone bitching

[arctic granite]

uoooooooooh it's a swastika ooooooooooooh

I mean... it is a historical camoflauge...

[somber urchin]

Same with IL-2 BoX where they removed all the swastikas

because uhhh

historical symbols in historical games are bad!

iirc its more so that its banned in russia tbh

[arctic granite]

😏

it's also banned in germany is it not

[somber urchin]

yeah

[ruby rain]

I have just researchesd VFM5 and can afford both the VFM5 and Oliphant

[arctic granite]

They're 50 % off in a month

[ruby rain]

[cold lichen]

Oh no

Don't get Shermy started on SL

[serene birch]

why lose 500 when you could lose 250 instead

its not that far away and neither of those things are worth immediately sinking SL

[ruby rain]

Does the sale apply also to crew training?

[serene birch]

honestly cannot remember

dont think so tho

[arctic granite]

No

[ruby rain]

gaijin'd

If I buy them rn during sale, I'd have 2,083,869 left

[serene birch]

or if you wait you'll have like what 2.4?

[ruby rain]

oops

Does crew recruiting also get -50%?

[arctic granite]

No

[ruby rain]

gaijin'd

Ok Im probably gonna play SWE now until the sale

[cold lichen]

BUT

Talisman are 50% off

[ruby rain]

they're not F2P

[prisma nymph]

@arctic granite (shermy2519) has been muted for 1 day for reason: The historical thing might have flown through. But insulting a nationality with slurs doesn't. Cool off. Next one will hurt more. trust me. -1d

[ruby rain]

CAS'd by mod

[cold lichen]

Damn

He didn't see it cominhg

Just like an AGM-65D

Oh

I've lvled up

By typing in the War blunder chat

[serene birch]

sheeeee

i didnt even see him say anything that had a slur

but mabye im blind

[cold lichen]

He called the germans something

[clever jacinth]

i am inevitable

[cold lichen]

For I can't say it

Sense I wish not to be muted

[clever jacinth]

that means it works

[serene birch]

yeah i wasnt asking anyone to repeat it

oh does the server autofilter

fair enough

[ruby rain]

READER DISCRETION ADVISED
||the libs will call anything a slur nowadays ||

[cold lichen]

[clever jacinth]

bitch

[cold lichen]

Honest to god

[ruby rain]

[somber urchin]

Mods got involved when no one asked them to

https://tenor.com/view/cat-triggered-gif-26561244

The mod clearly isnt a WT player if he hasnt slurred out every nation available

[somber urchin]

Not libs just anyone with the moderator role (much worse)

[ruby rain]

When you ask a WT player why he laced up multiple nations w 20 different slurs

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[sleek fractal]

Swastikas are not banned in Art or Documentations.If they would put them on Vehicles in Warthunder it would be ok so thts not our fault.

Cause Videogames are considered Art.

[serene birch]

(he cant respond)

[sleek fractal]

I know

I can still answer

[somber urchin]

Moderators

[serene birch]

[somber urchin]

I know what was removed

and like

it wasnt even that bad at all???

[serene birch]

this is why i censored the image to begin with, idk what mods opinions are. id rather not test them either

[somber urchin]

I mean I can DM you what was removed if you want

no slurs were actually said

[keen sequoia]

can you dm em to me too please

i require context

[serene birch]

australians require full frontal lobotomies

[keen sequoia]

kill yourself

[serene birch]

ok australian

[sleek fractal]

Speedrun on how to get muted/banned

[somber urchin]

Fastest way is to say something bad about germany

[sleek fractal]

I mean if he wrote

Then it was a slur

Just like certain other ones that aint "so bad" people use t
for Americans ... ok i wanted to say Japanese but that one is considered bad.

[serene birch]

nooooo they patched the occasional tank going flying when they got shot

L gaijin L

seriously common L

[cold lichen]

Its cool and all, but when I shoot a flak panther onto the point and he decaps it

its kind of a :|

moment

[frigid carbon]

twas but a scratch

[soft oracle]

You should have seen what can F-5C take and still fly

[sleek fractal]

Yeah they removed the bail timer too when criticaly hit

Thats why Kamov's without Tail's can kill everyone again despite counting as shot down

[cold lichen]

Don't remind me

[eternal zenith]

and chances are if they manage to land on a helipad they'll get repaired in 5 minutes or so

I've seen clips of people landing while still counting as shot down but never what happens after. Do they get repaired if the kill marker already played out?

anyways anyone already test fired a missile and can tell how that works now? Is there a minigame going on which you have to figure out to get all the clues?

I guess there's a chance you'll end up wasting an entire missile if you fuck up or is that just a penalty on advancing with the next one?

[soft oracle]

No bridge?

[somber urchin]

No bridges?

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[clever jacinth]

why do you assume the man was muted for the swastika?

they are in a historical image context. he did more besides.

anyway.

[ruby rain]

welp that was fun

2 hits on a enemy plane
gun jammed
engine shot out
crash land

[clever jacinth]

if you want to argue about what he said and what not, you can do it in DMs, according to rules of this server

[somber urchin]

We never said that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

And again we did just discuss it in DMs anyway we moved on from the subject until you brought it up again

[clever jacinth]

oh excuse me. to me it seemed you have something to say about moderators and the decision, by mentioning it in here multiple times and claiming you know that he didn't do anything.
to which i replied that you can do it in dms with a moderator if you think a mistake was made, and not in here.

[somber urchin]

The phrasing makes it sound like you are being passive aggressive I dunno if that is by design or not but its how it comes off in the first sentence

And again the last message about it was a joke on the situation (I thought was pretty clear but maybe not) almost 12 hours ago from which point no on brought it up again until you said something

(where you assumed we thought he was muted over a swastika that no one ever mentioned)

[stray bane]

The Biplane experience

[somber urchin]

The J6 guns are really good though

just dont hold down the trigger

Also stop playing bad nations

[stray bane]

Both guns jam on the last bomber and you have an engine crit.
Base is 20km away

Pilot man should just reach up there and clear the malfunction
Watch your arms

[somber urchin]

Too bad you cant clear jams in things like the zeroes despite the gun placement designed in such a way that the pilot could clear it

[stray bane]

Same with the hispanos in the P-38

[somber urchin]

Or the Mig-21/23 Gsh-23

[stray bane]

What did Discord user Shermy mean by this?

[ruby rain]

goddamn bottom tier is stupid

[stray bane]

bottom tier is a silly fun time

[eternal zenith]

oh it was the brackets?

[stray bane]

I don't think so.
he said that yesterday before getting muted

or the day before idk

time isn't real I have debilitating ADHD

[eternal zenith]

just hop in the 37mm SPAA and leave with 16 kills

[stray bane]

I'm already late to my first class

[ruby rain]

which one are you referring to?

[eternal zenith]

rank 1 apex predator

I've legit cleared entire teams with that thing

[somber urchin]

I dont like those cause even 7.62 can kill you

[eternal zenith]

this is true

why didn't they put the FlaK36 into a Pz.III

[soft oracle]

Just use L-62 Anti

[somber urchin]

Yeah that thing is super cracked

[somber urchin]

They didnt need SPAA early war

and needed many more tonk

[eternal zenith]

it's +1.0BR tho

[soft oracle]

It is rank 3 at 2.7

with 40mm APHE that creates more spalling than 75mm APHE

With more protection and better firing angles than that turck

[eternal zenith]

yeah but it's 2.7

But you're right, I'm gonna play that thing rn

[soft oracle]

Huge difference of 1.0 😱

For a vehicle that is way better

[eternal zenith]

I'm confused because I thought it's about lowtier tanks

[somber urchin]

Low tier is like rank 3 and below

or like 3.3 and below

[stray bane]

What's worse
Fighting 6.0 germany or being 6.0 Germany (air rb)

[somber urchin]

being germany 6.0

cause you will get clobbered by P-51H and superspits

[stray bane]

zamn

Schnellbombers aren't gonna help

I don't even have my first tier III spaded yet so that's a ways out

[serene birch]

this purely because your team of premium bombers is not an amazing ally

[somber urchin]

Apparently you need to grind out 9 of the missiles for the LOSAT

[eternal zenith]

Anyone wana compile a list of missile faults?

If the missile loses velocity the pipelines are faulty

[somber urchin]

Go ro r/warthunder Im sure its on there

[eternal zenith]

I'd rather die

[somber urchin]

[serene birch]

tfw someone says theyd rather take a gun than flares at 10.0

[arctic granite]

Depends on what the team comp is in both circumstances.

[barren coral]

I thought all you needed was 3??

[somber urchin]

You need 3 working missiles

But you are given
Broken
Broken
Working
Broken
Broken
Working
etc

[eternal zenith]

so dumb

just say you need 9 and stop pussyfooting around pretending it's rng

[serene birch]

i just spent almost an entire grb match playing chicken with a flarakpz lol

[eternal zenith]

how does playing chicken look like?

[serene birch]

uhh basically constantly trying to gun for each other and ducking away because we both know if either hits we'll die

i was poking out of hills for a few seconds to launch my rockets, ducking away before he could either get a lock or hit me

he managed to hit me once and knock out my aileron control, still managed to land it tho B)

not really how chicken is played but close enough in that situation lol

[eternal zenith]

what were you in?

[serene birch]

Q-5

[eternal zenith]

so you ended it in a draw?

[serene birch]

yeah neither of us actually killed each other

i hurt one of his tubes with a rocket strike but wasnt close enough to kill him

i swear every abrams tank is in a gang, you shoot one and like 3 others appear jfc

[eternal zenith]

Crazy to think the marder roland almost got APS upgrades done

[serene birch]

yeah p funny but in WT it wouldnt make much of a difference

[eternal zenith]

instead now there's the boxer with meads soon, absolute unit probably wouldn't be able to kill that ingame

true lol

Now that you mention it, I think I never had a atgm miss or be intercepted because of APS at top tier

sure the ground launched ones

[serene birch]

ive had them but rolands dont usually hang out near the tanks cause well not exactly effective

and APS cant stop 6 rockets

[eternal zenith]

I tend to fly up to 50m in my yah and fire all 8 atgms within 20 seconds, pray to find all the SAMs before they all hit the ground

land repeat

[serene birch]

wtf weird method

[eternal zenith]

how do you do it?

I gotta be honest my method needs work

[serene birch]

i just launch one and sit at tree top when i play helis

if you launch all of them its not exactly hard to see where they came from

1 is still easy to see but 8 is like having a big neon sign

[eternal zenith]

if you launch em like I do you got like 25-30s window to acquire enough targets to make the attack worth it, 5s between targets to still be able to guide the rocket enough to hit

[serene birch]

how far away do you SPAWN

do you do the furthest spawn

[eternal zenith]

idk like 5km, closest spawn

[serene birch]

hellfires are usually faster than 30 seconds from the closest spawn

also speaking of neon sign

[eternal zenith]

yeah true

i missed it, salty

I put the cake on everything

lights up the tank nicely in IR

[serene birch]

i had a rare night match in the moderna lately

and the sign was beautiful

[eternal zenith]

||makes it seem like you burned down if placed above motor||

[serene birch]

(except your hatches arent open)

i dont bother to check for engine sparks or anything anymore

hatches open = dead

[eternal zenith]

[serene birch]

if youre unsure from a distance just use MG

or shoot it anyway

[eternal zenith]

I'm just counting on giving me a split second moment of doubt against IR air attacks

[serene birch]

lol managed to get the eyes to fit on the ERA only

[serene birch]

uhh idk what planes are shooting you with IR cause i dont have any

[eternal zenith]

drones mostly

[serene birch]

oh you mean like thermal cams

[serene birch]

lol

thats great ima have to try that, im p sure i have their decal

[eternal zenith]

this one prolly my fav

[serene birch]

sadly doesnt work as well with this :(

that is great thank you for showing me

[eternal zenith]

don't call me a rat, because I am and in denial

engine off near a bush in the shade, this works too well

[serene birch]

have you seen the new marketplace skin for the ontos

[eternal zenith]

no

[eternal zenith]

lol

[eternal zenith]

is that historic too?

[serene birch]

solid shade and tree line

im assuming so, doesnt have atag yet

[eternal zenith]

Turning off skins

[serene birch]

marketplace says semi, so im guessing based off of something else maybe

[eternal zenith]

this just mean

[serene birch]

any guesses

[eternal zenith]

Prolly a sherman

[serene birch]

hint, you can see the gun

[keen sequoia]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1036815489776758838/1117161854347788298/RDT_20230610_1142111329734205080458561.gif

[eternal zenith]

no idea lol

[eternal zenith]

lmao ofc

[ruby rain]

How do you turn off decorations?

[serene birch]

you do not B)

[eternal zenith]

you can only disable fictional camo

[serene birch]

^

[ruby rain]

How?

[eternal zenith]

I want some birch bushes too

[soft oracle]

You bomb the enemy or spray them with lead

[serene birch]

options

[serene birch]

dont bomb the poor l3

[eternal zenith]

fictional almost always neon coloured so I tend to keep it on

[serene birch]

this. i love spotting bright red KV-2s occasionally

[soft oracle]

L3s, M22s and other "haha look rank I vehicle in top tier funny" people should get bombed instantly

Team killed

[eternal zenith]

I kinda dig the factory red primer on the tiger H

[soft oracle]

Reported

[eternal zenith]

why?

play sim

imagine how good the guy feels taking out a M1 in a L3

[serene birch]

yeah idk why people really bitch about it, premium 1-death quitters are far far worse

[soft oracle]

I am so quirky I took the BT-5 I will waste this team slot and ram into my friendlies

[eternal zenith]

We had this discussion before how many respawns would be morally acceptable?

[soft oracle]

So silly goose from me 🤪

[serene birch]

seethe that gaijin also thinks its funny

[eternal zenith]

bt-5 gonna be kicked like a volley ball in top tier

votekick would be interesting tho

[serene birch]

i remember seeing someone ask in top tier when they were gonna remove the ability for p-26s to join f-16s in squads and everyone bullied him lol

[soft oracle]

Deserved

Waste of tickets

[serene birch]

and the 1-death quitters arent

[eternal zenith]

if 100 tickets break the match then it's not a 1 player issue

[serene birch]

^

[keen sequoia]

100 tickets?

Damn

[serene birch]

easy way to shut down this whole thing too B)

[keen sequoia]

Thats crazy

[serene birch]

dont like it go play another game or just dont play top tier its shit anyway

[keen sequoia]

true

[keen sequoia]

This all the way

[serene birch]

my kv2 has a pimple :(

[keen sequoia]

people who say that reserve shouldnt be allowed in top tier to meme are just a walking skill issue

[serene birch]

ive seen a p-26 shoot down 2 mig-29s LOL

[keen sequoia]

based

[serene birch]

he was more useful than like 70% of the team

[eternal zenith]

this is hilarious

[serene birch]

but then some tryhard radar missiled him :(

[keen sequoia]

I've been enjoying this lately

[serene birch]

i was gonna go over and let him get a 3rd but my teammate was a wiener ;(

[keen sequoia]

goes hard

[serene birch]

based. they are great

[keen sequoia]

unbased

[eternal zenith]

doesn't the p-26 have 308 only?

[serene birch]

nah some have 50s

(or maybe all idk)

[keen sequoia]

I love just approximately ranging in a target without actually ranging the distance

Flinging some 105 HEAT

it landing perfectly side on and detonating the ammo rack

[eternal zenith]

Man I've been enjoying 105 heat as well lately, in the DF105

[serene birch]

highkey get the premium one so you can have 2 in your lineup

B)

you can spawn 6 times with just the m51s B))))))))

[keen sequoia]

I already do spawn 6 times

3 backups, it lets you use all of them

[serene birch]

3 times + backup on the TT
1 time for prem + backup

[keen sequoia]

on top of the 3 free spawns

[serene birch]

oh DOES IT

LOL

[keen sequoia]

yep

[serene birch]

have 5 million spawns then

why not

[keen sequoia]

real

[serene birch]

(i dont die enough in the m51 to even know how many times you CAN spawn)

[keen sequoia]

spawned 6 times in the entire match, got like 10 kills, few assists and i think 2 caps

I made bank too

[eternal zenith]

where to shoot the m-51 for easy kill tho

[keen sequoia]

Hull

its the shitty M4A1 chassis except at 6.0

[eternal zenith]

ammo up front?

oh side

[keen sequoia]

this one

from 4.7

[serene birch]

its a hybrid hull B)

[keen sequoia]

or even earlier this one i grabbed is the 76mm version

[eternal zenith]

does the cheek get you a rack still?

[keen sequoia]

there is one at like 3.0

and its the same chassis

[keen sequoia]

shoot it anywhere

it does not matter

if youre at 6.0 and have a decent gun, fling it at the center mass

[serene birch]

so yeah funny its actually a lil better than the M4A1s hull

[keen sequoia]

nope

same as the M4A1s hull

[serene birch]

wtf IT should not be

oh well thats ok

[keen sequoia]

the italian one in the pic is different

[serene birch]

gaijin can be wrong its fine

[keen sequoia]

the hull itself is visually different, picked that up straight away

if that affects the armor too much, i do not know for that specific tank

[serene birch]

still a basis, its a modified hull in general

[keen sequoia]

yeah

[serene birch]

so idk why gaijin was stinky lazy

i want more israeli vehicles :(

im kinda surprised they immediately gave us the M-51 and not the M-50

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith If possible, just shoot center

results from an IS-2 at 6.3 vs the M-51

completely shreds

and even

even the results from a 75mm

[serene birch]

ohmygod the israelis used m22s

you know what that meeeeeeaaaaans

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

new m22 tier 3 premium?

m22a7 or something, lightweight tungsten dart to make it compatible at that br

[keen sequoia]

Sub optimal

WHAT

No damage

at all

apart from a big fucking hole

[serene birch]

big holes but its fine

[keen sequoia]

New driver port

[serene birch]

no armour best armour

[keen sequoia]

there we go

Added crew visibility

Hmm

the M22 did NOT survive

[serene birch]

get a lock and if it hits there itll kill B)

python 3s are better than the sherman confirmed

[serene birch]

but also yes its a phoenix not a maverick

[keen sequoia]

yes

[eternal zenith]

you know, I'd be interested to see what happens to the crew if you fire a AP round through the hull followed by a HE

out of WT I mean

[serene birch]

probably would die i feel like

[eternal zenith]

would mg rounds fired through a big hole in the hull be able to ricochet enough inside to kill the crew if the AP didn't do it?

granted why even bother since the loader already readied the second shell

[serene birch]

yes

well irl yes

in game no mg rounds dont richochet well, youve gotta be at steep angles

why does this thing have a duck hunting camo

[somber urchin]

WT sim lobbies be like

[arctic granite]

hey sim is nice

[solar bolt]

Chillin in WW2 brs and fuck those bots jets

[eternal zenith]

how do bots even make any SL/RP?

[serene birch]

they fly, they bomb, they die

or in the case of the SPS-Ks they just die

[cold lichen]

Really wish you could report entire SIM lobbies for botting :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndDE5jrSNio

Live server of the LOSAT

That drop REALLY fucks with this BEAST

Plus at 2 minutes in

Look at the desync of the missile

[copper laurel]

this is geniunly a cancer machine

people will just use it to camp spawns

or sit in a corner of map

[cold lichen]

Yeah, but there are already a ton of those so what changes with the LOSAT?

Im more mad about how if you get a faulty missile, you literally just get fucked

You've actually wasted 2 hours just to get shit

[eternal zenith]

you can't?

[eternal zenith]

in testing you can pen multiple tanks with one missile

[leaden fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548084970602627076/1150846502072230008/20230201_164525.png?ex=65166193&is=65151013&hm=8c5422a3a540fcc1ef416122b656369094ee6f1db847b8323b454aaf9536e6d3&

AH-64D Flight Manual got leaked

[eternal zenith]

full?

[cold lichen]

I get where I fucked up in my statment

When I mean drop

I mean the missile itself DROPS down like every other missile

then goes back up

Not just out and straight towards

[sleek fractal]

Old

[cold lichen]

Isn't Shermy's mute over?

[sleek fractal]

Yeah and?

[cold lichen]

Just wondering

They haven't said anything

[sleek fractal]

He had multiple periods where hes silent over weeks

[cold lichen]

ah

[eternal zenith]

he been on a 3 month hiatus this summer

[eternal zenith]

Yeah I just wanted to mention the multipen thing since I wana try that out during a match. But the drop you can counter by raising the target offset to like 2000m

makes a nice arc to target that way

[cold lichen]

Hmm

Neat

[eternal zenith]

Really looking forward to this thing tbh. I like over-engineered bullshit like that

just hope they give you an option to close the missile covers at the front at some point. not cause it gives you any advantage, just extra fluff

[cold lichen]

Honestly, I thought they were gonna act like the bradley, where they need to open when you have to fire

But not the "wait then fire" and more of "after you go below 5kph, it auto opens fast"

[serene birch]

if youre talking about the LOSAT it is kinda sad it dont open

[sleek fractal]

They fucked losat now

Effective at 500m+

[soft oracle]

Pretty sure T-64A turret has more than 70mm of armor

[arctic granite]

I'm surprised they haven't added a T-72 Ural to like 9.0

It would be pretty good but made of paper in comparison to later models

[somber urchin]

That goes against their rules the only things that can be added must be high than 11.0 BR :)

[arctic granite]

The earliest T-72s are kino because they're total dogshit but they're slick

[somber urchin]

basically cut down T-64s lmao

[arctic granite]

Essentially yeah

Remembering the time I got blocked by some ukrop for disagreeing that the T-64 and T-72 are the same tank

They also argued that the Soviets didn't have to develop the T-34-85

[somber urchin]

[arctic granite]

An enlarged turret ring and entire new turret just manifested on it's own bro

[somber urchin]

Different transmissions/armour layout/auto loader/engine

Must be the same tank

[arctic granite]

Ukrainians do something other than leach off other nations challenge

[somber urchin]

Shrongles boutta get annihilated agian

[somber urchin]

Good gameplay btw

[arctic granite]

?

[somber urchin]

Saying something rude about another nation :)

[arctic granite]

What about it

[somber urchin]

The moooderators hate it when you have fun

[arctic granite]

Only interaction I ever had with a mod was when I was punking what's his name about the bundeswehr

That was comedy

[somber urchin]

[arctic granite]

@ruby rain it was you I was talking about music with right

[ruby rain]

I dont think it was much of a conversation but sure

[arctic granite]

https://youtu.be/75BrYpJRkQ8?si=9QS2wvDtLFP-KAYY

Peep this

It's wild how the concept of armor gets trumped every 2-3 years and it's at the point where armor technology just cannot progress

The USMIC two decades ago "hey we can absolutely obliterate any and all ground assets with this new system"
The USOB "nah we don't even need it"

[somber urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842045085713301527/1155172914174382081/image.png?ex=65164cdc&is=6514fb5c&hm=8cfbcf5397d558867f7efa99af96d95dc026cd96e3b72072d5101985aed97dce&

I want the mixed propulsion Navy attacker :(

[arctic granite]

Carrier borne twin engines make my scrotum tingle

Tigercat at a reasonable BR when

[somber urchin]

It got the rear jet engine

[arctic granite]

They're going to make the Ramjet P-61 a premium

[somber urchin]

This photo is so kino

[somber urchin]

Cougars in the background

[arctic granite]

God there's never not been an aesthetic point for US military equipment

[somber urchin]

Start painting your ships white again

[arctic granite]

There's no advantage to it like there is with radar absorbing gray

But the great white fleet was such a move

[ruby rain]

interesting, reminded me of Rob Zombie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOctyXxCm-4

for example

[arctic granite]

Right?

[somber urchin]

They doin the mfin air to air refueling

[arctic granite]

I was thinking the same thing

No navy nearly as powerful

[ruby rain]

I have Rob Zombie nostalgia due to FlatOut 2

[arctic granite]

Two lane blacktop my beloved

I need to watch the movie from 79

I also need to watch white line fever

Speaking of white

St Louis my beloved

[somber urchin]

Pre dreadnought battleships are such fucking kino

[ruby rain]

@arctic granite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NyON-NzBr4&list=PLKKjOZHtt53JroY3Zq_3Pv_LA_MIUez3S&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkt-aCNjPPY&list=PLKKjOZHtt53JroY3Zq_3Pv_LA_MIUez3S&index=12
some of my favourites

[somber urchin]

The post ironcld/pre dreadnought navies are so cool

[arctic granite]

The turn of the century was such a look in every fuckin facet

Then there's the turn of this century (shit)

[arctic granite]

I love the sentinel

https://youtu.be/8Ksksu9JDkg?si=NxdAcGr4FzcP9FUG

[ruby rain]

rightfully

[arctic granite]

Screaming for vengeance is great too

You like iron maiden?

[ruby rain]

Hell Patrol, Leather Rebel, Night Crawler in Painkiller 1990 also

[ruby rain]

dont think Ive listened

[arctic granite]

WHAT

is this shrigma serious

https://youtu.be/ntJtBttuPjk?si=biZM05ynvXfO_TkI

[ruby rain]

oh wait

I have srry

[arctic granite]

Bout to say boy

[ruby rain]

that was a brainfart fosure

[arctic granite]

Kinda required listening

[somber urchin]

EU moment

[arctic granite]

Owned

Owned

Owned

[somber urchin]

[leaden fossil]

Let me save the day

https://open.spotify.com/track/2SrVGpjv0mqCR6j9EZPSm2?si=66078fd690aa4328

[sleek fractal]

Not me but

[ruby rain]

10 deaths tho

coulda carried the battle of Stalingrad

[stray bane]

Is there a thing that replaces player names with bot names?

[sleek fractal]

thats still 21 kills if you take off the deaths xD

[ruby rain]

He fell off

[somber urchin]

barely 3:1

Im pretty sure Sherm did better with no losses?

[arctic granite]

10 deaths

Really threw shit at the wall till something stuck

[sleek fractal]

#doubt at 10.3

[arctic granite]

15-0 is literally nothing special

[somber urchin]

3:1 KD is literally nothing special

[sleek fractal]

Oh yeah right those 9k score games are really common

[somber urchin]

Im just breaking down the stats homie

[arctic granite]

Bro getting defensive over something he didn't even do

[sleek fractal]

Nah just being sarcastic

[arctic granite]

Since when does score matter

[somber urchin]

If someone posted a 3:1 KD and started saying how good it was you would 💤

[arctic granite]

Last time it mattered was what? 2018 events?

[sleek fractal]

Always being negative,not hating everything makes life way easier,good night

[arctic granite]

"uh yeah I got 3 kills for every death"

I'm impressed

[somber urchin]

It would be more points efficient to get 3 kills in a game then leave

rather than staying for 30

[arctic granite]

What would really be interesting is the battle log

See if it was a downtier, see if it wasn't just sitting 5km away in a helicopter

[sleek fractal]

YOu can have the full stream

https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1936582186

17:53 til end of Match

[arctic granite]

Oh it was on battle

No wonder that's the easiest game mode to farm kills on

[somber urchin]

4 hour VOD

Ok

I wonder if the rest of his games are that good

[sleek fractal]

You can watch the 4 hours and check

But you probably wont cause talking shit is easier

[arctic granite]

click one part of the video
dropping GBUs

real impressive

[sleek fractal]

i wanna see you dropping GBU´s

[arctic granite]

I do it in DCS all the time

I can record it if you want

[sleek fractal]

Nah WT

I wanna see you abusing GBU´s decimating full teams

Full Replays not just some stupid cut clips

Or better a stream so i can see you performing top all the time and not just for single matches.

But now i gotta sleep not everyone is in the US timezone

[arctic granite]

sounds like you're just trying to cope with the fact that maybe what you posted isn't nearly as impressive as you thought it was

[sleek fractal]

Nah most people cant consistently make 3 kills

[somber urchin]

Its pretty easy

Its literally

[sleek fractal]

Do it.

[somber urchin]

designed to be piss easy

[arctic granite]

we're well aware, but that doesn't mean it's impressive.

[somber urchin]

easier to do than dumb bombing
its hard bro

[sleek fractal]

nobody said its hard

[arctic granite]

it's just not impressive

[sleek fractal]

Im gonna filter when i wrote the word impressive

Oh wait i didnt.

[arctic granite]

really cool, that doesn't make it impressive

No one even insinuated you said it lmao

[somber urchin]

Neither Iam

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic granite]

jesus

[sleek fractal]

Another dumb discussion because your big fat ego makes everything negative lel

[sleek fractal]

Cant just share something

[somber urchin]

Personal attacks

[arctic granite]

really hard to get more than 3 kills bro

[somber urchin]

you shared something in a public server and it got a public response

and it wasnt even you who did the thing

its just some guy you know

[sleek fractal]

And why are you such an ass i never seen anything from you either than negative crap ?

[arctic granite]

uh oh... he's lashing out...

[somber urchin]

Im sorry for not taking absolutely everything at face value and being happy with slop :)

[sleek fractal]

Nah just stating my opinion which was also false in terms of gameplay in "Your opinion" ^^

[arctic granite]

this is the biggest non statement I've ever seen

[sleek fractal]

Then dont waste your time with it

Just like i wont waste my time with you slops now.

[arctic granite]

are you okay

[somber urchin]

POV you watched a 4 hour WT stream

[ruby rain]

As he hears "Leg dein verdammtes Handy weg!"

[arctic granite]

you know, it's funny, I'm looking at all of the post game reviews (that the guy is very quickly clicking out of) and I'm seeing shit like 14-7, 5-2, 5-2

comedy as his 9-2s and 11-2s are mostly just airpower gains

[ruby rain]

for me thats kinda good

[arctic granite]

I mean yeah, but you're not exactly sitting on 10,000 hours like some of us so you don't know the mechanics like the back of your hand

[ruby rain]

yes

[arctic granite]

to abuse certain aspects of this game is like clockwork

you do X and get Y results, it's how you manage to just evaporate teams at top tier because you can do basic repetition dangerously fast

[arctic granite]

not even trying to trash the guy who made the video and played the match, but he's only managing a 1.8 (Ironically the exact same as me)

[prisma nymph]

@arctic granite (shermy2519) has been muted for 3 days for reason: The council decided. Political talk, slurs, being a dickhead in general. Touch some grass irl. -3d

[somber urchin]

Political talk?

Ay mods uhh

At least make it fair

[prisma nymph]

@somber urchin (lithium9672) has been muted for 3 days for reason: The council also decided about you. Being a dickhead in general. You can touch grass aswell -3d.

[soft oracle]

Chat will be active again I see

[barren coral]

Holy 1984

[ruby rain]

christ....

[cold lichen]

It wasn't even a day b4 he got nuked

[stray bane]

Sir a second mute has hit Shermy

[cold lichen]

LYLE, LYLE! OPEN WT CHAT, THEY HIT LITHIUM LYLE

[eternal zenith]

Did it?

What about it reminds you of Rob Zombie?

||Might it be because he co-founded the band?||

[eternal zenith]

https://tenor.com/bINtC.gif

[serene birch]

why am i not surprised this chat of all chats is where i see so many mutes my god it speaks miles about wt in general

[ruby rain]

I see...

[cold lichen]

War thunder blows balls and we are gonna make it known

This channel will fall at the same time WT will crumble to dust

[arctic granite]

I don't understand why they got mad over a man sharing a very good score game? That isn't everyday that happens, but hey some people just don't like to see others succeed.

[stray bane]

least spiteful warthunder players

[soft oracle]

Already

[cold lichen]

AT-1 When????

[serene birch]

the absolute 5head that would buy it for 500gjn

[eternal zenith]

whoever bought it for 280....

how many you guys have already

[serene birch]

98

B)

sike more like .9

[eternal zenith]

98 first place matches would be pretty impressive

[keen sequoia]

None

haven't played an actual match in a while

Waiting for the funny hind to go on sale so i can make videos with it

[eternal zenith]

custom mission and copy hind to a custom vehicle?

[keen sequoia]

buh

least profitable F-5C match

[eternal zenith]

MAN, I hope my lil buddy grinds this event for me

[sleek fractal]

Guess going to sleep does work wonders

[prisma nymph]

@echo fjord (iron_wolf15) has been banned for reason: troll

[eternal zenith]

Thanks

[cold lichen]

What the hell happened????

[eternal zenith]

he posted some guy eating shit

nothing of value

lowkey fitting this channel ngl

[sleek fractal]

Time to improve the quality of content then since not every WT Players hates the game as a full time job.

[leaden fossil]

That specimen exist? Damn a lot changed since 2016

[sleek fractal]

If you hate it dont waste time on it

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/16u4psr/losat_vs_asu57/

[cold lichen]

Its gonna be a very niche tank

But I will NOT miss little retard man

Wish hull break was around

Would be perfect for LOSAT

[serene birch]

i mean with how WT models hullbreak you couldnt with the LOSAT anyway

no boom boom

need boom boom for it :(

[sleek fractal]

Its a ATG Dart

So yeah no overpressure

Hullbreak would have been possible

Hullbreak was a shit mechanic

[serene birch]

even hullbreak was near impossible with solid annoyingly

despite the fact if i sent a 100mm round of steel at your transmission in a little tank made of paper it definitely shouldve broken your hull, just didnt

you needed explosive filler like 99% of the time

[sleek fractal]

You needed like a certain amount of pen more

It was akward and inconsistent

You were able to hullbreak everything with Russian HE or rapid firing AA

[cold lichen]

I am too tired to correct my wording so Im just gonna say yeah its a stupid mechanic with yall

Anyways, they changed it again

The LOSAT

Now the missile arcs up and then towards the target

And this is the stat card

[leaden fossil]

Just flying low tiers from time to time. Especially if I had a bad day

[soft oracle]

You could hit over obstacles if you rock the vehicle back and forth

[eternal zenith]

baffling to me that they took the missile carrier, slapped it on the AGS chassis and were like: Yeap, that looks about right. Not even bothered giving it hydraulic suspension

gagoon, when?

put a guy behind a .50 on top, passenger holding a LAW

BR 9.3

better yet

[stray bane]

Ooo Mk19 buggy
Hilux technical but more "proper"

spookston voice
So they added a new rat goblin vehicle to top tier

[sleek fractal]

I can already hear his voice ffs

[ruby rain]

cant move in sand and deep mud -> needs to be towed out

[eternal zenith]

shit, if only we had tracked vehicles around and a tow mechanic in game

[ruby rain]

[trail briar]

Hmm

That doesn't seem to add up

[stray bane]

All WT needs is dynamic smoke and then they're basically the same game

[serene birch]

we're one step closer each update B)

imagine an FV4005 firing next to a cloud of smoke and having most of it getting blown the fuck away lmao

[ruby rain]

Imagine nations being competatively balanced
O
0
o
.

[cold lichen]

🥺

[serene birch]

never

[ruby rain]

thats the point

[serene birch]

british mains dont deserve balance

[ruby rain]

checks out

[keen sequoia]

Half way there

Can shoot the smoke launchers

cause some miniscule tomfoolery

[stray bane]

Remember, no bushes.

[serene birch]

british mains deserve nothingggg but haaaate

[ruby rain]

y tho?

[serene birch]

because

[ruby rain]

[serene birch]

british mains deserve to suffer for their crimes

[ruby rain]

what crimes?

[serene birch]

existing

[ruby rain]

damn, other nations get a pass? xD

[stray bane]

The French have been allowed to live for far too long now

[serene birch]

yes british mains are the worst

[stray bane]

more like
shitfire
amirite

[serene birch]

shitfire hurricant tempass

[cold lichen]

Are you perhaps a german main

[serene birch]

no yuck

[ruby rain]

since when has "Russia" has been changed to "CIS" (Commonwealth of Independent States) in server selection?

[cold lichen]

This update

[serene birch]

when do we get GAR servers :(

[serene birch]

man the L3 feels really really tiny when im in this thing

[soft oracle]

You can fit 2 L3s in that thing

[serene birch]

its longer and taller than a maus lmao

[trail briar]

This new event called is great, it offers this new amazing tank called and like 5 years of premium time, it's up from until , it's great!

[stray bane]

Putting in 100 hours of work to sell ______ Vehicle for 30 gaijin bucks

[serene birch]

crafting vehicles do spike massively

[sleek fractal]

Cause they are rarer,not everyone putting up with that shit.This time its not even worth it.

Losat was nerved,the planes are nothing special and the Ship is just another Ship

[serene birch]

even not worth it vehicles sell a lot lmao

[serene birch]

i mean tbf the plane is special first low tier guided rocket

[sleek fractal]

Maybe in 2 years if they buff the Losat in between

[sleek fractal]

True.

Most people play lowtier just for the easy clubbing of new players

[serene birch]

and also they spike pretty quickly usually by the next event

unlike the star event vehicles which do usually take about a year to see massive improvement

[sleek fractal]

Cause theres more of them than the crafting ones

[serene birch]

no i mean as in the crafting vehicles usually spike by the next event which is the star one towards christmas

cause they do

[sleek fractal]

Yeah cause people buy then in tons after the event cause dont play it

[serene birch]

only real exception was the Po-2M but lets face it its funny but not extremely saught after cause its not the OG

[sleek fractal]

Which reduces the amount of vehicles available faster

To be honest crafting Events are not so bad anymore

[serene birch]

theyre better but still not great

[sleek fractal]

If you remember the IS7,that wss bad

[serene birch]

i saw it mathed out and its still like ~40k score a day for 13 days in a row for everything

[sleek fractal]

You had to perform good for 12 hours every day for 7 days.

[serene birch]

which isnt bad but like people with lives can’t really do that

[sleek fractal]

You were forced to buy parts on the market basicly

I bought mine for 60 bucks,was esoer

I wish i bought more

[serene birch]

i was away for a week so i missed out on a bit and was broke due to bills do didnt ever get it lol

its ok though cause i dont like it that much

[soft oracle]

You grind the vehicle because money, I grind the vehicle because it looks funny

[serene birch]

i grind it because i want it

[sleek fractal]

Usualy,yeah,this time i just opened a Losat offer to buy for 25GJN and thats it xD

Gonna keep it,see what happens and probably sell it for big buck if it gets buffed.

[frail glen]

Hey guys, it is been a while. I wan to tell something otherwise I become much more gloomy. Anyway I slowly grinding for new f16 slowly because generally I hate ''grinding''. So whenever I get big juicy XP booster I hop on my F16ADF and play simulation. For me it is super fun but recently we as a f16 mains already struggle with Migs and in addition of that pesky japanese mains somehow able to match up against US and they become teammate with USSR and germany with their f16AJ and it makes me confuse while playing because of same radar stuff.

I wonder when will they stop being pssy and start to hunt down migs with any other f16 user countries.

I don't want to play realistic mode because it is basically cluster fuck I rarely stay alive on this missile mayhem.

[serene birch]

migs aint that bad lol their FM got fucked and their radar is doody (missile is not but radar sure is)

[serene birch]

also its good that they have an F-16 on their side lmao, its not fun being able to do very little when your radar outranges their own and in dogfights you’ll dog on them easily

[serene birch]

fair but no matter what mode you play constant missile slinging is inevitable because thats modern air combat for you

[sleek fractal]

Sim was always a cluster fuck due mixed Vehicle setups

[serene birch]

sort of inevitable unless you have massively one sided teams

and then no one would play its a lose-lose really

[sleek fractal]

imho they should cut sim completely

its not being worked on

They just add more vehicles and everyone has Russian tanks on the ground now,so nobody knows who is who in the Air or the Ground

[serene birch]

yeah prolly replace it with RB EC

[sleek fractal]

RB EC was great

[serene birch]

i miss rb ec that was always fun

and imagine toptier rb ec that would actually be so nice cause you could actually get more than one kill if you’re stock lmao

like itd still be a slow grind cause you are limited due to shit weapon loadouts but youd be able to rinse and repeat

[frail glen]

I know but in sim it is much more chill than realistic mode for example you can do BVR fights because you know you don't have to wory about dozens of missile behind you as occur on realistic mode.

and you know, playing sim on cockpit more immersive too

[frail glen]

well yeah but it is confuse me and I hate dying while confuse because it feels unfair

[serene birch]

imagine being a mig getting shot down from 19km and being able to do very little other than attempting a notch cause your radar only goes to 10km lmao

[serene birch]

its more chill but not as rewarding and just not as fun as RB EC was sadly

[frail glen]

what is RB EC btw?

[serene birch]

debatable cause the cockpits sorta suck and you need to use TrackIR or VR and VR is not great for WT

[serene birch]

Enduring Confrontation imagine Sim style matches but in RB game mode