🛩war-thunder

[arctic granite]

I can't talk about the game now?

[sleek fractal]

You can,i dont care,im just saying if you pester people there might be backlash.

I mean i didnt report last time

But there are people that do

[sturdy pulsar]

Oh it only spawns once in AB too

[sleek fractal]

Cooking time

[sturdy pulsar]

Well that going to make spading it difficult lol

[arctic granite]

for talking about a video game... in the channel designated for it...

[sleek fractal]

You dont get it.Thats fine.

[sleek fractal]

Try the Zachlam

That thing is more fun than the AMX

Everything is more fun than the Chinese M41

[sturdy pulsar]

I don't have it

😔

I tried it on test drive though, the missiles are nice

funky to wire guided them like that

this is how the Israeli tree is looking

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/u2RSz4E.png

why would someone even bother

[sturdy pulsar]

This is how the M-51 grind went @sleek fractal I guess I'll put it back on the lineup with the bad crew

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/O5ydXla.png

okay...

[sturdy pulsar]

or the good one, the AMX doesn't have the gun to work with the good crew beyond hiding on a rock and taking side shots

[sleek fractal]

When i played it,i had constant uptiers Post Pen damage is just ass

[sturdy pulsar]

is Tiger 2 and Ferdi's the upstiers

I don't really check

I see Tiger 1's but I also see about everything else

[sleek fractal]

Yep

See the Tiger 2 turret eat the shot

They dont even need to take full ammo

They changed the racks years ago so they always got ammo in turrets

[arctic granite]

or you use any russian/american APHE ammo

praying for the APHE nerf

(it will never happen)

been playing the M51 and it's post pen is pretty good ngl

I uh, don't see an issue with it

I'm managing 3.2 while dude is like what? 0.8?

it's a good solid tonk

[sleek fractal]

Missing the point.

[arctic granite]

Okay, explain it to me

👂🏻

[sleek fractal]

I did.

You didnt get it

[arctic granite]

👂🏻

[sleek fractal]

No further explanation needed

[arctic granite]

I'm almost 4:1 in the M51, there's nothing wrong with the ammo

[sleek fractal]

Dead horse

[arctic granite]

This invalidates any and all arguments you have

Bouncing panther shots, nuking his entire crew with a single shot center mass after just reloading and killing a Jagdpanzer IV

I do not know how you can have any trouble using this tank and it's ammo

[sleek fractal]

Cause every one is a Shermy tryhard that deadbeat is on harrasing other players because they have an other experience than him.

[keen sequoia]

M-51s always shred me if they hit me, honestly just a skill issue ngl

[sleek fractal]

Beating a dead horse as said you are missing the complete point of the discussion

Instead of TELLING HIM what he can do better

you are like "HURR DURR ALL IS FINE IM KILLING THEM CAUSE IM BETTER THAN YOU"

[arctic granite]

If the man is bad at the game so be it, but allowing him to tell blatant lies and provide the wrong information and outlook is not a good idea

[sleek fractal]

God how can one be so toxic and self centered instead of just helping someone

[arctic granite]

The man won't accept help, he was predispositioned the moment he sent a message

He doesn't even take the time to look at a vehicle before telling someone else it's armament

[sleek fractal]

thats where i stop otherwise Skom must shoot someone again

basicly.

[arctic granite]

Maybe don't blame all your issues on the game and actively take a chance to learn from other players?

[sleek fractal]

Tells me the guy that says everything is fine but cries over volumetric

Now its my issue apparently xD

[arctic granite]

Yeah no I don't think you quite understand the point I'm trying to make

[sleek fractal]

Cause i said i find it "inconsistent"

[arctic granite]

There's nothing inconsistent about this particular shell though

[sleek fractal]

Its as inconsistent as this discussion everyone missing the point by now

[arctic granite]

In fact I haven't seen a shred of proof even backing that up

95% of the OCC 105 F1 shells I've managed to connect today have done significant damage when properly placed

[sleek fractal]

here we go again

"ive"

"i"

not everyone is a Shermy

Im glad it is that way

Otherwise we all would already killed each other

[arctic granite]

That's cool I guess? But that doesn't mean that the information I've put forward is invalidated

Because I actually have stuff to back up what I say, I don't just cast it off and go "because I think so"

[sleek fractal]

Because your information is ass when its about players experience.

He aint as good as you

you are beating a dead horse xD

[sleek fractal]

its like a broken record

[arctic granite]

This is such a non statement considering I'm sharing my experience

Like genuinely, I could give the guy 50 tips and tricks and he would default to blaming the game

This vehicle is excellent in the right hands

[sleek fractal]

if you werent an ass i bet he would take your advise

[arctic granite]

I don't see how you could call me such considering I don't use vulgar language, I keep a civil conversation and don't treat people poorly

[sleek fractal]

you are bashing him in the most toxic way and dont even notice it xD

[arctic granite]

By saying that he is wrong and that the vehicle isn't bad?

[sleek fractal]

I already explained earlier

[arctic granite]

I didn't even talk shit about his stats

[sleek fractal]

god im out,dead horse,broken record.

[arctic granite]

I think you have this predisposition about things that warps your view and understanding of statements

It's a fun little game about shooting red tanks, no need to be so up in arms about everything

[sleek fractal]

i did the same now and i tell you that so you can keep further feed your ego

[keen sequoia]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1142124661048623155/1692343716609.mp4

[arctic granite]

two for two

[stray bane]

The first person to leak classified documents wins

[keen sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-blocked-users-discord-gif-gif-17964926

[sleek fractal]

i still have the Challenger documents lol

[arctic granite]

Wild how having a different opinion can send such emotion through someone

anyway time to grab that 5:1 M51 ratio

[keen sequoia]

[stray bane]

My skill issue resolving itself as soon as I purchase 60 U.S. dollars worth of Golden Eagles

[sleek fractal]

why that

Never do that

[arctic granite]

honestly this

https://i.imgur.com/JJrpoGT.png

[keen sequoia]

do it

except

not on GE

[arctic granite]

tbqh I'm tempted to buy the premium M51 now

[stray bane]

https://tenor.com/view/wooo-yeah-baby-gif-18955985

[keen sequoia]

Buy premium time and a premium tank or plane

Not just on GE

[stray bane]

Me when 2 kill game

[keen sequoia]

trust me

[arctic granite]

keep it up fella we might bag three one day 🙏🏻

[stray bane]

I probably won't
Not sure how much im gonna play this game, especially when I start college again

[arctic granite]

only 16 more levels until an expert crew 😭

[arctic granite]

that's for the best, this game fucking sucks

[stray bane]

Deep rock has won me heart

Leaving that typo
#dwarfpilled

[arctic granite]

yoooo

pebble and boulder

[keen sequoia]

[stray bane]

Got my first promo last night
Mineral and granite

[arctic granite]

I just picked up bomb rush cyberfunk so I'm going to dab it up

[stray bane]

Spookston: this vehicle sucks
14 kill game

[arctic granite]

he heavily cherrypicks things tbqh

[stray bane]

All content creators do tbh

[arctic granite]

Even I can rack up a triple ace and be like "oh yeah well the vehicle no good"

[stray bane]

Consistency is key

[arctic granite]

if I'm running vehicles I'm familiar with I can usually manage 5-6 a game depending on the map

most maps are actual garbage tho

[deep jetty]

I'm having fun up until now. Kinda

[arctic granite]

But that's why we have task manager

[stray bane]

Maybe I should just flank 4head

[arctic granite]

what are you playing

[stray bane]

You can always bait your teammates

[arctic granite]

light vehicle meta worst day of my life

I will unironically sacrifice blue players to get more points

[stray bane]

The grind stops for noone

[arctic granite]

it stops for me because I only play for fun 😎

[stray bane]

500 hours to unlock top tier
The pleasure of playing the sweatiest least fun matches available

[arctic granite]

uh listen buddy, you should enjoy getting raped across the map by helicopters

it's the newest addition

[stray bane]

CAS is balanced!
Just uh
SPAA

[arctic granite]

caspilots get the rope

[somber urchin]

Wow warthunder didnt know it was so active here

[deep jetty]

Arcade battles both air and ground. Been using mostly HE 112 V-5 for air and Pz.III E for ground. I'm really just starting out

[stray bane]

Sometimes I think about maining AA just to make them miserable

AA lineup

[somber urchin]

Stick to low tiers the high you go the less fun

[stray bane]

I still get my ass flattened in bottom tier

[arctic granite]

run any autocannon for instant fun

positioning is key

[somber urchin]

Map knowledge is the most important thing and vehicle knowledge (where to shoot) is the second

[stray bane]

Yeah

[sleek fractal]

Then volumetric swoops in and gives you that juicy "no pen"

[stray bane]

Check that hill
Tank drivers like to feel tall

Wtf is a volumetric

[sleek fractal]

Volumetric is the current system revolving around how shells penetration and armor work

[somber urchin]

Improve the second part of my statement I guess

Volumetric always fucks over on the same pieces its pretty reliable in how it works

[stray bane]

Is that why tracks are the strongest unpennable stalinium

[keen sequoia]

I will forever keep my Turm 3 on 69

[somber urchin]

like when 2 plates join up

[keen sequoia]

Simply for the funny

[sleek fractal]

Sometimes yep

[somber urchin]

My favourite is hitting ammo and it not exploding

[arctic granite]

that's actually a feature irl now

[stray bane]

Orange ammo 😡

[arctic granite]

so it's correct :) (only on NATO tanks)

[somber urchin]

[arctic granite]

DM63 has inert propellant

[somber urchin]

shoot T-72/80 in the side
Ammo rack goes red
He looks at me and kills me

:))))

[stray bane]

I'd kill myself frankly

[arctic granite]

we love war thunder

[stray bane]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-get-real-gif-21323382

https://tenor.com/view/tomy-tomas-peaky-plinders-peaky-blinders-gifs-gif-18709783

Non pen non pen non pen

I'd carry the one shell in the chamber only and I'd still get ammo racked

[somber urchin]

Any penetrating shot will usually lead to your death anyway

[stray bane]

Yep

[sleek fractal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/560123674380992542/875089994895724574/skill_issue_2.gif

[arctic granite]

war thunder and it's consequences have been a disaster for realistic perspective of vehicular combat

[stray bane]

Gunner HEAT PC

[somber urchin]

So fucking true

[stray bane]

Wehraboos have been given far too much ammunition

[sleek fractal]

IS really great

[somber urchin]

More like air players tbh...

[sleek fractal]

im following them since ages

[arctic granite]

not true, cod only had minimal impcat on guns

[stray bane]

WT doesn't model your transmission committing seppuku

Randomly

[somber urchin]

Cod doesnt pretend to be a "realistic simulator"

[arctic granite]

Cod is PVP but people don't think CoD is realistic

because it's not

[stray bane]

Realistic would be insurgency sandstorm but only the part where death screams are playing

[arctic granite]

they're both combat games and have vehicles

I would say they're pretty similar

[somber urchin]

Asking DCS players about aerial combat and its like asking a WT player about tank combat

[arctic granite]

gun fucking mouth

you could fill numerous novels with the things warthunder innacurately models

[somber urchin]

Yeah its called the warthunder wiki

[stray bane]

Um akshually the Su-57 (fan-made mod) is a competitive stealth fighter and can stand up to the F-22 (also a fan-made mod)

Growling Sidewinder

[somber urchin]

Anything over 4.5 gen gets the rope honestsly

[arctic granite]

the wiki was last updated Aug 6th, 2017

[sleek fractal]

and realisticly both planes have over 1500 issues of which around 330 can kill the pilot

[somber urchin]

Thats any aircraft?

[stray bane]

There's probably more posts on rule 34 about the Su-57 than there are actual Su-57s

[sleek fractal]

Most usualy yeah except for the F-104

Thats like the flying coffin

[somber urchin]

Thats usually a maintenence thing over a production/design, F-22s are probably very well maintained for what it can be

[sleek fractal]

Depends on the Country thats wanna buy it

[stray bane]

Wow military what's all that budget for?

Just incase

[arctic granite]

Deterance doctrine best day of my life

[somber urchin]

Only the german one really (Im not saying the 104 is good) but when you put something with low lift and high speed in a ground attack role what did they expect

[arctic granite]

not naming any names...

[stray bane]

STEM careers If the endless arms race didn't exist

[arctic granite]

the arms race gave us so much

like TV...

[stray bane]

Germans flew their 104s incredibly low too

[arctic granite]

and the internet...

Look I'm not saying the nation known for losing two world wars would drop the ball yet again in case of another but...

The F-104 was not great

[somber urchin]

They are on the right team this time (their military is non functional due to neglect)

[stray bane]

When you get upgraded from a Focke-Wulf to the fastest pencil ever made

[arctic granite]

woah chill out, you go down that route of discussion and someone's going to go run and tell the janny

[somber urchin]

[arctic granite]

can't talk about tanks outside of the context of the game sweaty

[stray bane]

Witwenmacher

[sleek fractal]

literaly

[keen sequoia]

I'm severely bored

what should i do

[sleek fractal]

play tarkov

[somber urchin]

Uninstall warthunder

[keen sequoia]

Both good answers

[arctic granite]

that's not very pc, we prefer the term "divorce finallizer"

[keen sequoia]

Then again do I really wanna play tarkov at midnight

[arctic granite]

NOT THIS AGAIN NOOOOOOO

[stray bane]

Listen. All we need is some Russian security clearance

[arctic granite]

we need GOOD tank games

[somber urchin]

You will be forced to hear about youtube drama and lazer pig

[stray bane]

Reminder that the Chieftan (the guy) is 1.98 meters tall

Do not piss him off

[arctic granite]

I care not about the shutin soviet spouting shithead and the bisexual blight

[somber urchin]

[stray bane]

Is he bi because I've only ever heard him call himself gaу

[sleek fractal]

i annoyed him once on GHPC discord

[arctic granite]

I care not to know the details

[somber urchin]

Sounds like its easy to do

[sleek fractal]

Its way to easy

[somber urchin]

Warthunder youtubers (especially a certain koala)
are easy to piss off

[stray bane]

He's gonna get his shillelagh

[sleek fractal]

just have a tank related question on a tank he doesnt know shit about xD

[stray bane]

Who's the koala

[somber urchin]

The scottish one

[stray bane]

Having warthunder be your source of income robs you of your humanity

[somber urchin]

Robs you of your braincells

Any like defensetuber are like really shit

[sleek fractal]

Ash is also a Clown.First leaving the CC discord and then running back after the Roadmap came and saying "Hey thats pretty good"

[stray bane]

WT youtuber tier list

Go

[somber urchin]

they all like make the exact same videos

[somber urchin]

F tier
All of them

[sleek fractal]

Thats why i only like the Streamers

[keen sequoia]

Malzi

S tier

[somber urchin]

The streamers are also shit (I dont know the streamers)

[keen sequoia]

Everyone else

[stray bane]

Malzi ❤️

[keen sequoia]

idrgaf

[sleek fractal]

Most German Streamers + the Esports team(Streamers) are in the community im in.We probably wont get Play4Peace this year cause Gaijin had a change in Staff and they are retards.

[somber urchin]

Malzi

[keen sequoia]

Thunderwar

he's good

A tier

Munitions

[somber urchin]

Lemme just add a bunch of popular memes and sound effects to generic warthunder gameplay

[keen sequoia]

A tier

[arctic granite]

there's only like 3 good war thunder youtubers

and 2 have retired

[stray bane]

Monkey brain like funny edit

[somber urchin]

TEC

[keen sequoia]

Notice how i've only said people that don't fucking speak in their videos

[sleek fractal]

THat guy makes a 30 Minute video on 10 secs information

[keen sequoia]

I wish to see gameplay with funny sound effects

[somber urchin]

And is a massive bitch and very bad

[keen sequoia]

not Oddbawz or someone else going

[somber urchin]

yes

[stray bane]

I know we're all professional haters here but

Sometimes I like things too

[keen sequoia]

"Uhm aksually ☝️ 🤓 " every 10 seconds

[arctic granite]

reminder

[keen sequoia]

Spookston

[stray bane]

I dont want to hate anymore
I just want to be happy

[somber urchin]

not a furry btw

[keen sequoia]

featured in one of his videos

B tier just for that

[somber urchin]

Im sorry for your loss

[keen sequoia]

That video was the only good Spookston video

(Not biased because i was in it, pfft)

everyone else

F tier

[somber urchin]

Spookston is awful

[stray bane]

I think he's alright

[somber urchin]

Yoo who is this Arclightexpress guy

[stray bane]

Fun to watch even

[arctic granite]

also

[somber urchin]

He literally had furry porn in his vid at one point

[arctic granite]

TEC

[stray bane]

Idk maybe he beat a puppy to death 6 years ago

[somber urchin]

NOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOO

NOT THAT

[stray bane]

Canceled

[keen sequoia]

Fuck sppokston

F tier

[arctic granite]

I feel like being a war thunder player is more incriminating than being a furry

[stray bane]

Who gives a fuck about furries in our lord's year of 2023

Those in glass houses shouldn't shoot APHE

[somber urchin]

A lot of people

I dunno whenever I say something bad about warthunder its always a certain group of people who come to its defense...

(they all have the same kinds of pfp)

[keen sequoia]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/763053037332725790/1142242284520362004/7df373c4f73d656676bc9e21a23e27753705389bb48cf8d9edb5f455cade890b_1.jpg.jpg

[stray bane]

Warthunder when you complete a research

Enemy gunner looking at me after my breech gets shot out

Armor is just extra morale points for the crew

[somber urchin]

The worst mechanic they put into the game recently other than drones

is the commander aiming system

Shooting the gunner is pointless

[sleek fractal]

"recently"

They removed the instant take over

it has a cooldown now

[somber urchin]

Yeah a cooldown shorter than a reload

its like 3 seconds

[sleek fractal]

enough time to move ^^

[somber urchin]

Not in a russian tank...

[arctic granite]

"enough time to move"

[somber urchin]

Or you arent in a position to get into cover like an urban brawl map

[arctic granite]

yeah.. no

[somber urchin]

Should have positioned better on advance to the rhine 100-50 meter engagement

I really doubt you stick to cover every single time you play homie

[arctic granite]

the hunter/killer system was such a mistake

[somber urchin]

[arctic granite]

if the delay is slower than your reload, absolutely not

[somber urchin]

So your argument is

"its not bad because other things are bad"

?

I dunno when it isnt annoying

[arctic granite]

it's objectively bad

[sleek fractal]

[soft oracle]

Was searching for this

[arctic granite]

yeah I found it a couple days ago again and immediately saved it

[deep jetty]

[somber urchin]

Why is it in german

[sleek fractal]

Is7

[somber urchin]

So whats everyone's favorite premium to use to grind :)

[sleek fractal]

F-5C

It just works

Otherwise Kv-1B,German Sherman,Kv-220 all that OP crap

M60 AMBT

oh wait thats no premium xD

[arctic granite]

you people grind?

[stray bane]

Billions must grind

[somber urchin]

Ru-251 was probably my favourite grinder

when it was added

I dont really have one now

[stray bane]

Just saw someone having fun in low tier
Warthunder has fallen
Billions must buy top tier premiums

[somber urchin]

If warthunder has fallen that implies it had ever risen

For SL I used to use the pakwagen but they nerfed the gains on that thing significantly some time ago

so if I ever want SL I just go play 5.7 germany with Ersatz/Furry Tiger/Do-335 (premium)

[light wagon]

For SLs just play premium ships

[arctic granite]

the T18E2 fo today

[somber urchin]

Love that dude

[keen sequoia]

F-5C, Turm 3

[somber urchin]

Why those

[keen sequoia]

They're really solid vehicles

F-5C is quite a pog dogfighter, decent armament

Turm 3 for GRB slaps

5 second reload for the 105

autocannon 30mm

and it's got decent turret rotation

[ruby rain]

What is the cheating situation like in wt?

[sleek fractal]

There are cheats,most are useless

But theres also 3rd party tools made by devs that arent considered cheats

Just imagine a Sturmtiger sniping you over the whole map with pin point precision.

Because the tool calculates for you how you gotta aim and shoot

[ruby rain]

Right. How prevalent is cheating?

[sleek fractal]

I havent had a cheater in Months.

Last one i met had something like an aimbot.

spawned,instantly sniped 8 players over the whole map without moving.

Got banned a week after

i just noticed those idiots dont mark any Cheaters anymore when they got banned

They had a big fat red "BANNED" Stamp on their profile when they were banned which doesnt apply to the Accounts they banned early this year

[ruby rain]

Why is that? And who dou u mean by "those idiots"?

[sleek fractal]

Gaijin

Cause now you cant identify if the account was banned or not

That was my way to go to see if they banned the cheater i reported

They had a change of Staff in some Areas and most of them turned out to be real fucktards

thats why we probably wont get some Player organised Events this year anymore

Last year we held Battlebuddies and Play4Peace

This year probably none of both cause Gaijin refuses to cooperate this year

There was even planed to give out tripple smoke again for Play4Peace last year

It was even in the announcements

1 week before the Event Gaijin said "no"

So we had to remove it

[ruby rain]

Do you think the change of staff will impact the game itself?

[sleek fractal]

no cause they dont have influence in that regard

only public work

[ruby rain]

ah

[sleek fractal]

The most impact they have is shitty free stuff in Events

Or none at all

We are glad we got them to accept the Skins you could get during Esports Streams

Cause they were made by a Player and not someone who can profit of it inside Gaijin

[deep jetty]

https://youtu.be/L4aorvxztGk

Exactly my experience so far

[arctic granite]

not war thunder related

[soft oracle]

Sorry

[arctic granite]

I'm just teasing

but this entire internet shit flinging contest is really annoying to hear about

[soft oracle]

Wrong server after all

My bad

[arctic granite]

it's genuinely not an issue bro

[sleek fractal]

Wanted to post it on GHPC?

[soft oracle]

Nah

Would get banned probably

To other server

[sleek fractal]

Lol ok didnt see what it was anyway

[arctic granite]

Shitty e celeb drama

[sleek fractal]

Meh

Ok

[somber urchin]

Warthunder youtubers

[ruby rain]

when queen 'Liz II died, ingame chats were locked for a period, but I thought it was only for me bc someone might have reported what I had written in the chat

[arctic granite]

That was because of the slav race wars

[ruby rain]

the Balkan powder keg?

[arctic granite]

The black sea barbarians

[ruby rain]

Now they're fighting irl I think

[ruby rain]

Got sent to hangar by some fucking POS CAS cunt

[somber urchin]

It wasnt because of the british monarchy lmao

It was uhhh

:)

[arctic granite]

bodied bodied bodied

should have bought more gold birdies

[ruby rain]

if you mean killed then twice was enough

im doing it 100% f2p

[arctic granite]

🫡

[somber urchin]

I wish you luck..

🙏

[ruby rain]

thanks

[somber urchin]

Your sanity must be

📉

[ruby rain]

Plenty time to learn...

[soft oracle]

Nooo

[somber urchin]

What nation do you guys think is the most handheld

I think its like fuckin sweden at this point especially at higher tiers

but germany all around

[arctic granite]

Germany is the most handheld

skewed BRs, undertiered tanks, ridiculous matchmaker

[somber urchin]

Least handheld is like

All the minor nations (no one pays for the premiums)

[arctic granite]

least handheld is Britain

they get fucked at every single possible turn

[somber urchin]

B-B-but the spitfire kills my wunderwaffe 109!!!

(I always try to turn fight)

[somber urchin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/785033084532817930/1142487923325943948/IMG_1140.jpg

[ruby rain]

No APHE, mid speed, thin armour

the Churchills are the dumbest PsOS -> too slow for the amount of armour they have, the gun depression is mostly useless due to exposing tracks, in the latest versions their guns got WORSE, vertical armour plates

the gun STABs are pretty nice tho

[arctic granite]

Listen bro, making a cruiser tank in 1944 that's slower than a Sherman, has worse armor, has a worse gun is imperative to the war effort

Britain absolutely sucks at making tanks, the only time they had good tanks is when they were the only ones with tanks

Ye roight we got us some fast tanks yeh, let's put governers on these here engines and lose any advantage we might have had

The British were so good at making tanks that during the biggest tank war in history their most used tank was American

[ruby rain]

I think Im only gonna use these b4 switching

is the Warrior any good?

[sturdy pulsar]

Nope

It's

strange

the fire rate is the main issue

[sturdy pulsar]

"USS Moffet makes bank"

Me:

I dunno why my activity is so low since im not camping in the back, just pushing to caps

[ruby rain]

As in too low?

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrg2KoL8V8

[sleek fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699696813707493437/1143179440659116152/MedalTVWarThunder20230820221655-1692560988.mp4

flight instructor broken

Some planes can pull more than 13g rn

Dont touch Air RB

[sturdy pulsar]

Bro, I tried Naval AB and RB

an I think activity is weird there

[sleek fractal]

Props got partial sim controll now and can turn very tight

You can turn so tight sometimes you loose controll lol

[ruby rain]

He made it look easy but Im not convinced

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah Spookston cherry picks and is one of those, 6k hours no lifers

But u can see the cannon takes like

2s per shot

can't test drive it?

[ruby rain]

No

Not yet, Id need to get the Striker

And im not sure its worth

[soft oracle]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8408-development-2s1-the-blast-blossom-en

[ruby rain]

Great, another (op / annoying) ussr vehicle

[light wagon]

Can't wait for the T90M

[arctic granite]

2S9 and M110 when

[arctic granite]

Dogshit

[somber urchin]

The 2S1 wont be op or annoying

its a shit 122 flinger

[arctic granite]

122 HEAT at 5.3

Screenshot this

[somber urchin]

122 APHE at 5.3

[arctic granite]

Abuse wheeled vehicles and the Striker

[ruby rain]

Yes. I think im gonna also use the VFM5 and Vickers Mk7 for the style

[arctic granite]

As someone who has two talismans on Chieftains

They're garbage

Never play the Mk 5

Did they make the Mk 3 8.7

[ruby rain]

I test drove the chieftain mk3 and

As a nation which only used its tanks far away, why tf is it so slow

[sleek fractal]

Cause its a big mistake they made

its a "heavy" basicly

the last heavy tanks of their era

Those silly brits think they even invented side skirts

they call em BAZOOKA SHOOTS

cause you shoot it with a Bazooka ( i know picture below is a centurion)

[ruby rain]

Built like the dude next to it

[sleek fractal]

yeah lol

they also have Chieftain in Munster but it wasnt on display

Its basicly the same tank just upgraded.

[ruby rain]

Is the chieftains' armour better than the cents'?

[sleek fractal]

i think so

turret armor is better for sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjgJ4nFwPf8&ab_channel=DEFYN

as expected

Especialy the broken dmg model

[soft oracle]

Sucks a lot

Time for gaijin to drop it into 10.3

And buff R-73 into oblivion

Just to nerf it in 3months

[sleek fractal]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1640598068

i just love the community that im part of

[ruby rain]

I aint whatchin allat

[sleek fractal]

Its just him in a E100 getting shot at and bombed over and over and over

on 2 maps

[ruby rain]

mans playing the E100, whadya 'spect?

[sleek fractal]

Current Meta,him getting nuked by a bomb which they failed to do

[ruby rain]

In my own games Ive seen E100's and Maus'es getting absolutely pounded on

Sweden has the Finnish the Soviet ZSU-57-2

[sleek fractal]

yeah but no proxy fuze

has only the Chinese ZSU

[ruby rain]

I wouldn't use it for AA anyway

[soft oracle]

They will get experiment ZSU with radar and proxy

[sleek fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/494075813034065922/1143149287975440394/War_Thunder_2023.08.21_-_20.09.30.22.DVR.mp4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054811143408984124/1143210562227019856/War_Thunder_2023.08.22_-_00.05.12.120.DVR.mov

[ruby rain]

The radius on the rocket turn is not alright

[arctic granite]

multi fuel engin

you will use vegetable oil and you will like it

Cheiftans should be honest to god

8.0

it's slow as fuck, it's gun is anemic and it's armor is hit or miss

[cold lichen]

The ISU-152 > Then this

[ruby rain]

Sanity 📉 ⬇️ ❌ 💥

[somber urchin]

What?

They are very different tanks built to different specifications

An M60 is closer to a later cent than a cent is to a chieftain

[arctic granite]

Wow I didn't even notice he said that stupid shit

Chieftains are a significant upgrade over Centurions, they're by no means similar either

[sleek fractal]

Ingame they are not different by much

We are talking about a game

Not about irl

[somber urchin]

All of this is IRL chat

what

[sleek fractal]

And thats a centurion

[somber urchin]

Yeah its related to the discussion

[sleek fractal]

[somber urchin]

directly

Even ingame they are different

Cents can brawl relatively well with their armour or well used to

the higher tier ones cant

But the chieftains have to remain at range

[sleek fractal]

Cents cant anymore that much

But hey they get early apds

Br decompression fuckt over the cents a bit

Which is fair

[somber urchin]

Cent 3 used to be like 6.3

The Cent/FV4202/Caernarvon line up

[sleek fractal]

6.7

I still have the swedish cent with the missiles for GB

[arctic granite]

🧢

[soft oracle]

Someone already claimed Su-25BM and first kill with R-73 was teammate 💀

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8412-development-mbt-2000-the-star-of-the-east-en

[sleek fractal]

I mean you outright call a vehicle garbage cause you cant play it

Gameplay wise are cents just like the chieftain

Or challengers

Driving bunkers

[fervent karma]

https://store.gaijin.net/story.php?title=MGE-Bundle

Another russian exclusive pack if anyone interested

[pulsar ravine]

People still playing this trash

After economics update i throw this game forever because without premium acc its just sucks

[keen sequoia]

fym

It's better after the economy update

they made it better for ppl without premium

[somber urchin]

Yes bunkers that are penetrated by anything around them BR wise

The only parts with armour worth anything is like

the gunner side of the turret

everywhere else can easily be penetrated by the kinds of munitions you find at 8.3-9.3

[deep jetty]

[ruby rain]

how?
I never have to wait more than 10sec

or 5

[deep jetty]

i don't even know

it's still going

[ruby rain]

restart the game

idk

[arctic granite]

Hello? All vehicles I've ever talked about I've played myself, what kinda unsubstantiated garbage is this

[arctic granite]

Absolutely not, the Centurion is a good flanker and support vehicle for most cases while being more well rounded, The chieftain is slow as fuck and is primarily a sniper

[sleek fractal]

Thats not what i wrote

I wrote you call vehicles garbage cause you cant play them

[arctic granite]

Bro there isn't a vehicle in this game I can't play effectively

I can make the Type 60 ATM work if I wanted to

[sleek fractal]

Why do you call them garbage then

[arctic granite]

Because they are! Just because I'm able to use it doesn't mean it's not dogshit tier useless in comparison to it's contemporaries

Single shot black powder muskets still kill people but I wouldn't use it over your run of the mill AR platform

I could use the Panzerwerfer and get kills or I could save myself the trouble and just use a Marder/Panzer IV

It would make zero sense to talk bad about a vehicle just because of skill deficiency, I don't go out of my way to talk about vehicles I have never played or don't have experience with.

See: boats

[sleek fractal]

Theres no bad vehicles in the game only bad players

I should stop doing that,its so easy

Triggering you with random nonsense

[arctic granite]

Objectively bad vehicles exist, there's no way around it. Trying to underhandedly insinuate that I wouldn't body you in any vehicle isn't really going to get you far

Unless you're trying to imply HE rockets are good anti tank weapons?

I have to ask, have you played the Chieftain and Centurion?

[ruby rain]

Is this shit worth the 60k?

[keen sequoia]

fuck no

[arctic granite]

No sir

[ruby rain]

right

thought so

[arctic granite]

Just a way to get people to funnel money into the game through the guise of potentially winning something

[sleek fractal]

Dont be silly,they are not made for that

[arctic granite]

Yet there are vehicles in game exclusively armed with them

IRL they are good anti tank weapons but the game is poorly modeled so go figure

[ruby rain]

the huge tank-fired naval rockets are a meme but they do kill anything

[sturdy pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/money-smell-sus-gif-23801020

2 vbucks

[arctic granite]

Did you 9-5 for all three

Holy Christ I know Russians cope really hard about SEAD but this is just pathetic

"The vast majority of ARMs are designed to destroy big systems"
What they fail to mention is that the vast majority of Russian systems are designed that way, Western systems use different bands and can easily pick up smaller more mobile systems

The nation who's one superiority lies in its supposed air defense systems (which are easily countered) always seethes when you bring up anti radiation missiles, who could have seen this coming

[ruby rain]

Is this Gaijin trying to justify op CAS?

[arctic granite]

No it's just Russians malding about being extremely far behind in technology and not willing to implement the things that absolutely decimates their ability to defend themselves from the force of nature that is the USAF

[sturdy pulsar]

Is sweden considered a big nation or a minor nation

[sleek fractal]

minor

[sturdy pulsar]

so maybe I should finish grinding USA

[sleek fractal]

USA is fun

im at 11.3 and farming all the Russians on US Server

Dont play on EU if you play US cause you get Germany in your team and when you got them its all FUBAR

[sturdy pulsar]

Germany is surprisingly competent

Dandori Issue

[sleek fractal]

Sometimes,usualy they are not

[sturdy pulsar]

pov, M1 was the top tier last you played

[sleek fractal]

oh boi

[sturdy pulsar]

not even an M48

[sleek fractal]

M1 is fun though with ACE crew

5.9 seconds reload

fastest reload on its BR

i think it was even faster than 5.9

Eh im at the ;60 AOS there

i will do all that after i got my M1A2

and the ADATS

I just need to play more lol

[sturdy pulsar]

Might as well just ace all the low tiers first

[copper laurel]

wish they added m829a3

that shit can pen t72 bassicly everywhere

[sleek fractal]

Eh nah way to much work

[sturdy pulsar]

the 163 is pain

[sturdy pulsar]

it's funf

[sleek fractal]

i hate everything under 5.7

[sturdy pulsar]

lmao

pov me tanking 20 37mm shots

[sleek fractal]

So the Su-25 spam starts yet again

And they play as expected

like total ASS

[somber urchin]

Time to post HARM footage of them yeeting Tors?

Or Shilkas getting annihilated in 91

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-122_Sidearm

MEANT FOR BIG SYSTEMS BTW

"The Sidearm was primarily intended for use against short-range radar guided anti-aircraft artillery and shorter range SAMs, including those fired by vehicles. The missile was capable of tracking a target even if it was moving."

I know its wiki source but nothing in statement is a falsehood

[sleek fractal]

smh this doesnt float

19 kills but you didnt throw a nuke? why?

and only 114k SL ?

[sleek fractal]

with that i mean its a joke you get only 114k

[somber urchin]

Not even 20k RP

[sleek fractal]

17K RP is already pretty good

[somber urchin]

Its really not

Not for the amount he did

[sleek fractal]

lol do the math

You need 360k for a top Tier

divided by 17k

[somber urchin]

You really out here happy with slop when you should be getting a decent meal

[sleek fractal]

21 matches for a Top tier Vehicle

[somber urchin]

21 If you get uhhh 20 kills in each game

[sleek fractal]

Thats fast as fuck xD

[somber urchin]

With premium

[sleek fractal]

one sec

[somber urchin]

15k for 6 targets

[sleek fractal]

[somber urchin]

You are proving my point exactly?

If someone gets almost 20 kills and gets only like 40% more than someone who got 5

[sleek fractal]

Nah im proving that i will get even more as soon as the RP change is coming

Cause it seems you forgot the change is coming this or next week.

[somber urchin]

[sleek fractal]

You know what the change does ?

More RP when you get x amount of kills

[somber urchin]

Yeah I know its a percentage

Like 3-5-9 or something

[sleek fractal]

50% on 9 kills iirc

which is a lot

[somber urchin]

And should have been in the game 10 years ago

[sleek fractal]

Ever noticed the 20% boost on landing on Air RB ?

That is already a fat boost

[sleek fractal]

10 years ago when i started WT there wasnt even Tanks.

[somber urchin]

I know

Same

:)

[sleek fractal]

I want the Pony event back

[somber urchin]

Yeah Warthunder players

I want tall ships back

Loooove 18th century naval warfare

[sleek fractal]

Probably coming soon

At least ive heard something

not the 18th century ones

but the big ones

[somber urchin]

I have heard something
So unsubstantiated claims coming from a rando who heard it somewhere on discord or worse, reddit

[stray bane]

Age of sail when
BR -3.0

[somber urchin]

🙏

[sleek fractal]

Not reddit

[stray bane]

Sea of Thunder

[sleek fractal]

Im not on reddit

wtf

[sleek fractal]

as if im leaking something.

I can leak public events that are coming xD

It all has its perks

[somber urchin]

What are you even talking about

[sleek fractal]

le sigh one second.

https://warthunder.com/en/news/7294-esport-battle-buddies-tournament-and-twitch-drops-en

https://warthunder.com/en/news/7498-esport-play4peace-tournaments-en

now you gonna ask yourself what is he trying to tell me

[somber urchin]

Something from 2 years ago?

[sleek fractal]

Esports "ready" in general

im involved in organising those Events

[somber urchin]

Explains all the bad takes

[sleek fractal]

Thats random bullshit just to trigger Shermy

[somber urchin]

Uh huh

[sleek fractal]

as if you take that crap serious

[stray bane]

Wouldn't esports warthunder just turn into a CAS battle

[somber urchin]

I dont take anyone who tries to boast about warthunder seriously

[sleek fractal]

If i would boast i would leak shit

[sleek fractal]

Nah cause of regulations

[stray bane]

How come pros get the balanced mode

[sleek fractal]

You dont know how hard it is to balance such an event with multiple nations so everyone has a fair chance

[somber urchin]

Its not

[stray bane]

I want the Ju-87 player to feel real pain when I shoot him

CAS players trying not to crash with 0 kills challenge

[sleek fractal]

You can do that already in randoms

But Gaijin staff that works on public shit + community changed

And those are real assholes

We wont get Computers sponsored for Stahl auf der Heide next year,which they did all the previous years.

They canned multiple events.They canned the return of tri smoke.

Now we gotta wait how they handle ranked mode further.

and WW Mode.

[somber urchin]

WW mode another of a mess

[sleek fractal]

Remember the first Season when ASTRO (former Epik)completely destroyed it ?

[sleek fractal]

when EPIK still existed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6oKf8JTK0&ab_channel=OddBawZ

God that mode is garbage

[somber urchin]

Yeah

What if it was like arcade and RB but worse

and also an RTS thats like

dogshit

[sleek fractal]

and last WW season was also fun.But the mode itself is still not well thought through.

The only good thing is that the RP malus was deactivated so you could research everything without penalty

Not that you got much SL or RP anyway

[arctic granite]

Merely pretending to be retarded

[arctic granite]

It's pretty easy to balance this game ngl

[ruby rain]

its easy to say something like that when most of it has already been done

[arctic granite]

SEAD cope is the funniest shit in the world

[ruby rain]

wait

nvm

[arctic granite]

Yeah the framework is there just needs adjusting

[somber urchin]

Um actually these are TV guided and not anti radiation missiles
(the air defense did not detect the plane nor missile)

[arctic granite]

SEAD doesn't just mean ARMs :)

[sleek fractal]

Tournaments.Not the game itself.Cause if you got one OP Vehicle implemented everyone is gonna play that.The game itself would be pretty easily balanced if Gaijin would start to listen.

[arctic granite]

Woah you mean that if you balance the vehicles properly people won't choose the broken one to play?

that's crazy

Posted from my Centurion vs 75 jumbo lineup

[sleek fractal]

Thats beside the point of the topic at that time cause you gotta work with how the game is.

[arctic granite]

You really don't, excluding problem vehicles directly solves the problem

[sleek fractal]

And thats why its hard to balance tournament setups

The whole thing was about tournaments

It does for tournaments

Thats it

[arctic granite]

Where does it state you have to add the autoloading undertiered heavy tank? It's not required to be completely broken

The solution is simple, you fix the lineups

🤯

[sleek fractal]

I dont get what it has to do with how lineups for tournaments get picked

Cause thats the topic you responded to

[arctic granite]

Let me try and break it down into layman's terms

you 👏🏻 don't 👏🏻 have 👏🏻 to 👏🏻 add 👏🏻 overperforming 👏🏻 vehicles

Like seriously, I click on one (1) tournament and it has SK-105s going up against T-64As

Centurion Mk 3s against Type 74s

[sleek fractal]

Those are not the tournaments we manage

Thats gaijins shit

[arctic granite]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

Just develop reasonable lineups that are fair, it's not that hard

[sleek fractal]

Tell that Gaijin

[arctic granite]

we don't manage those tournaments
that's gaijin
b-but tell that to gaijin

what

[sleek fractal]

Next time you compete at an Esports tournament i can fast forward your complaint

[arctic granite]

why in god's name would I do that

[sleek fractal]

Cause that was the topic

Not those 0815 ones that are on every week/month

[arctic granite]

You said it was difficult to balance, there's direct evidence providing information of the contrary

[sleek fractal]

Those are horrible

[arctic granite]

"The LeopardA1A1 against the T-62M"

wow that sure was hard

[sleek fractal]

You have to include more thats the point

Theres way more factors.

[arctic granite]

Woah, the M60A3 TTS, Cheiftain Mk 10, Type 74F, AMX-32...

[sleek fractal]

It would be easier if they did it like ranked and give the player those vehicles

But they dont.

[arctic granite]

It's really not that hard bro you're acting as if it's not possible to add all the L7 armed vehicles to a pool then add the appropriate 115/125mm armed vehicles

t. used to balance for community ran events constantly and never had any complaints

[sleek fractal]

Suggest that in the forums

[arctic granite]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

Anytime I have to associate with people like RazerVon I'd absolutely rather suckstart a shotgun

Suggestions on the forums is more useless than pissing gasoline on a forest fire

[sleek fractal]

I can understand that

The shotgun and pissing part

[arctic granite]

You wanna change the game? Make the redditor's mad so they keep bombing the game's public appearance

it's the only thing that gets anything done

If there's a chance it lies within the proles

[sleek fractal]

Ugh reddit

[arctic granite]

57% positive on steam

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1035788544230305872/1094713593129345094/HappyKitty.gif

It should be below 35

[sleek fractal]

Because Steam hid most of the negative ones via filter

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/8q0sRef.png

We need more of this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057772080709505034/1083157539455238214/togif.gif

No seriously, you wanna stick it to them just affect their ability to get new people to be parasitic on

[sleek fractal]

At least that Ceo dude made the whole thing worse and contradicted himself

[arctic granite]

This message has been redacted and in no way represents harm against Anton Yudinstev

[sleek fractal]

I loved how he was about a learning curve and that you need time to reach top tier but never mentioned 60€ premiums to jump that

Someone posted that already? https://warthunder.com/en/news/8412/current/

[somber urchin]

The ones last made 2 years ago?

[somber urchin]

upgraded standard medium tanks
Light tank tech tree

what did gaijin mean by this

[arctic granite]

why even bother with using nukes

it's either a cop out or waste of time either way

[ruby rain]

I saw an ELC bis

its like someone dropped an anvil onto a normal tankk

does it have gun STAB

[arctic granite]

I have never nor will ever use a nuke

I haven't been in a position where I have a nuke and can't just win the game by continuing to use my own tanks

[ruby rain]

The Bis has a flatter turret, thats why

[ruby rain]

Does dropping nuke get you a RP or SL award?

[arctic granite]

dunno, never bothered to use it

probably less SL than just continuing to carry

25k

so like 2 kills?

[ruby rain]

bruhhh
I get -7k to 20k per whole match on avg

[pulsar ravine]

Got uptier to 7.7 while being on king tigers setup and got nuke somehow, after this with prem i got only 60k

[somber urchin]

This game is awful

The gameplay

unfun
The grind
unfun
The community
unfun

[arctic granite]

The people who play it are the worst purely because they enable all of it's inane bullshit

Not naming anyone here who has spent 10,000 euros on the game

[ruby rain]

10k EUR

[arctic granite]

not naming any names...

[somber urchin]

[ruby rain]

what can you even spend that much on? (in game)

[arctic granite]

oh if you're dumb enough you can really waste money

[ruby rain]

op discontinued tanks and planes?

[arctic granite]

74 dollars on premium a year backed up by premium tanks and other stupid sales

[ruby rain]

a premium sub

i c

[somber urchin]

Its mainly on convertable RP

is like 1 GE per 45 RP

So 115 euro worth of GE (if you buy the biggest pack) is about 1.1 mil RP

Which sounds like a lot but its really not when you consider that these people also GE their veihcles with that

so its not 3 top tier vehicles

its like 1 and a half

Im sure someone worked out how much money it costs to get everything in WT that isnt an event vehicle

[ruby rain]

what BR do the best players play at?

[somber urchin]

Usually

Top tier

and lower tiers

The sweats play at top

the people who want to bully play bottom

The best players dont usually play the middling tiers unless its for event specific things

because theres no want or need

More fun is had at lower tiers

and more grinding at higher

[arctic granite]

statistically top tier, but there's people like me at every BR so...

[ruby rain]

OddBawz comes to mind bc he plays at different BRs (even if it is only for yt vids)

[arctic granite]

Do you think I give newer players a chance?

[ruby rain]

holy shit

its not even the hard lesson

you just bully them

[arctic granite]

I am saving them from a decade of misery

[somber urchin]

[somber urchin]

most warthunder youtubers are absolute dogshit

[arctic granite]

☝🏻

[somber urchin]

People only like Malzi because he is vaguely competent and he adds funny sounds

[ruby rain]

oh true

[somber urchin]

(he also GEs every vehicle he gets)

[ruby rain]

they also edit their shit

to look cool

[arctic granite]

I could throw together clips I've gathered and make myself look like a god gamer

[somber urchin]

Gonna fire a shot at something/cut/enemy destroyed (ignore its a different map)

[arctic granite]

yeah, I use my ears

😎

[somber urchin]

the ping is real

[arctic granite]

uh yeah I can press R and click

[somber urchin]

This game is ass lmao

would shred internal wiring
shock the crew
maybe make the turret unusable

or in WT

LITERALLY NOTHING

[ruby rain]

no spalling

lol

[arctic granite]

uh yeah bros, I'm so good for understanding how to flank

[somber urchin]

They should make it so on modern tanks if the sights are blown out you cant zoom in

[arctic granite]

bet you can't top this frag, heh

[somber urchin]

What are they talkin about lmao

[ruby rain]

devs too busy making only marginally different tanks to make better damage model it seems

[arctic granite]

I've gotten so many kills stolen from me it's insane

[ruby rain]

I opened US tech tree and there was a "new tank"

an M4 with a shit skin

bruh

[somber urchin]

Thats what you get for using shells designed to take out light vehicles on a light vehicle dumbass!

[arctic granite]

he cute!

please tell me why an M26 has to fight an M48

[ruby rain]

i couldnt tell ya

[somber urchin]

That was the E1 variant but yeah

Standard M26 at what 6.3 (overtiered) could fight fucking 7.0 german M48

[ruby rain]

well one time there was a 1.0 German destroyer driving next to me (Cent Mk10)

[ruby rain]

heli kill YESSS

[somber urchin]

You got any heli team kills

[arctic granite]

:^)

[somber urchin]

11 kills
all premium tank kills
premium account
Not even 20k rp

You dont wanna do that

Did you get anthing good?