JUSTJ'S Mod dev / requests

[neat tangle]

https://github.com/JUSTJ7780/NO-QOL

General QOL mods also if anybody has mod requests you can put them here i'll try my best.

[nova whale]

I thought for a second it was that one "QOL"

[neat tangle]

im not that advanced yet lol

[patent pilot]

here's one for ya: MWS SFX Overhaul: Pitch and Frequency of missile warning with ETA/Closure rate https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1378577353663582378

[neat tangle]

hmmmm so basically if a missile is far away like 40km quiet beep if its like 1km high beep?

[patent pilot]

not quite, it's based on ETA

a missile that will take a long time or have no chance of intercepting you should be low priority

a missile that is 1.2nmi away from you can be as low priority as a stratolance across the map

[neat tangle]

ok i guess it could take into account distance and speed to calculate eta

[patent pilot]

speed only, no distance

we're looking at ETA

or really, rate of change of ETA

[neat tangle]

ohhhhh ok so an ir missile thats 1km that would never catch you would be low priority

[patent pilot]

absolutely

exactly what i'd want

people would love this

[neat tangle]

ok i can check it out

[patent pilot]

also if you ever need testers, p2082 is pretty welcoming and has a dedicated tester team if you'd like

[neat tangle]

looking at this logically i could warp the pitch of the beeps? or do you mean slower beeps compared to faster?

[patent pilot]

both

honestly you could do either depending on what sounds better

the bottom line is that lower priority shouldn't scare pilots at all

[neat tangle]

seems possible in theory ill have to look at a few ways

[neat tangle]

👀 ( still testing lol )

[neat tangle]

ok this is a debug build so the setting are all mest up but i guess its nearly ready?

[patent pilot]

can you do it based off time of arrival? far missiles like SARH should also be low priority

also more footage..? 🙏

[patent pilot]

are the pitch/speed a range of values based on the eta or are they just preset?

[neat tangle]

the reason they seem fast here is because its test build so anything over 100mps triggers chase tone

[patent pilot]

i'd really like if they'd change dynamically instead of being in preset tones

[neat tangle]

plan is to make it fully customisable

[patent pilot]

yeah yeah i know, i'm not expecting the test build to be final

[patent pilot]

i mean like, dynamic change as in pitch/speed should rise and fall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbIL8cF4jLM

see here

i do like having the configs though

[neat tangle]

yh the mk2 im working on now takes into account distance

current build

again test build but now i need to figure out the negative pitch issue

[patent pilot]

can you get into a situation where there's a missile fired at you from behind but you're going nearly the same speed as the missile?

[neat tangle]

i think im gonna have to strip away the speed logic the missiles seem to use some kind of final intercept phase and its not playing well with the speed maths however distance seems to work best

[patent pilot]

how does it work currently?

[neat tangle]

it has a dead range for testing reasons its 15km after they you enter a pitch area it will steadily climb as it gets closer then at 5km it takes away the limiter allowing the pitch to speed up rapidly

[neat tangle]

looking better but the pitch is way too high lol

[patent pilot]

hold on i'll describe an algorithm in a bit

[neat tangle]

current build is working ok just need to play around with pitch setting

[patent pilot]

sorry for bothering, but i'd still massively prefer if you used eta instead of distance, since distance simply isn't the same

[patent pilot]

again, even if a missile is close, if it has no energy it should still be low priority

doing great work though, massively appreciate it

[neat tangle]

not sure if its possible with current tool as weapons shift in phases eg cruising speed shift between 3043-3031 the game reads that constant drop and tries to adjust the pitch to match and when the missile turn for its final phase the air resistence slows it down eg time to impact drops causing the negative pitch

[patent pilot]

how about being based on eta only and not rate of change of eta

would that work?

[patent pilot]

is this what it sounds like with eta?

[neat tangle]

the game itseld constantly scans every frame and updates accordingly it is maybe possible but it would be a big tug of war and its unknown the fps affect of it

[patent pilot]

shouldn't be too large if it's only client side

..and if you don't get missiles spammed at you

at most, there's usually only at most 4 missiles being fired at you

i wouldn't mind there being a hard limit

[patent pilot]

in theory, in this video the pitch/speed should still be raising as it gets closer since ETA is decreasing

even if it's slowing down, it's still closing quickly

i think the issue may be that the code is based off of rate of change of eta

meaning, it's based off of acceleration and not velocity

[neat tangle]

theres no built in time to intercept as far as i can tell unfortunatly so you have to do a little maths with speed x distance so with that clip allthough the distance is decresing the missile is slowing don for its final intercept so the tug of war begins im seeing if i can have the distance seperate from speed after a certain marker but without proper modding tools its a bit tricky lol

the other major problem is without a hook the game wants to default the pitch to 1.0 constantly that part is also very tricky

[patent pilot]

imo doesn't sound too big of a deal, you could possibly try muting the actual mws and replace it with your own, or use your own high pitched sounds

[patent pilot]

also maybe this'd be better with curves?

[neat tangle]

a couple of test build feature curves 3 were tested however it was the games interals that were messing them up

[patent pilot]

huh, odd

demo

honestly i don't think it'd be too bad if it had max pitch of 1.0

alternatively, you could just reimplement your custom sounds or something similar from your audio mod

[neat tangle]

ive messaged one of my friends whos pretty good with audio hes recomended an advanced eta system that takes into account the phases and ignores them so ill try this and see what happens

the new eta system is very very good

fps is tanking a tiny bit but should be an easy fix

this might be ready for deployment

[neat tangle]

Added a beta test file to the github page please play around with the pitches and report any problems asap default pitch is 1.0 so if you set max impact to 1.0 its normal 2.0 is doubled etc

[patent pilot]

❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[neat tangle]

please let me know any bugs theyre should be some

[patent pilot]

no changes for arh? i think it only applies to datalink phase mws

arh may not be apart of the mod entirely

[neat tangle]

i may have missed it in the config ( re used a chunk from another mod )

ill have a look soon

[neat tangle]

sarh and ir working?

[patent pilot]

yeah, working

[neat tangle]

good good ill probably fix arad in the morning lol

[molten panther]

A great QOL feature, would be a setting Toggle for Disabling Aircraft Input (Pitch Roll Yaw) while holding Freelook Button, and when Holding Radial Menu Buttons

The way it works right now, is it doesn't account for the same bind. Like if you have Right Stick as Pitch and Roll, the Radial Menu also used Right Stick, and will move the airframe when you select weapons ect.

[proper crater]

I’d literally PAY MONEY for a MOD for Single Player/OFFLINE that resembles anything close to a Creative Mode/Sandbox/Godmode.

I genuinely can’t understand how the Devs didn’t add this early on. I’m sure I speak for a large % of the community when I say that there’s tons of people that enjoy the learning curve and the skill gap to play the game, but from time to time, we would like to be able to play the game in a way that we can just test a weird stuff and do whatever and with zero consequence.

Anyway, some ideas for possible features:

• Infinite Health
• Infinite Ammo (Turret, Missiles, and ETC.
• Infinite counter measures
• Infinite Fuel
• Undetectable (Anything you Pilot can’t be detected or Locked on. This one if possible you could add like a slider so like 0 essentially means off in 100 men, you are a ghost.)
• Super Tracking/Stealthy: Uses Slider like Undetectable, but this is for missiles. 0-100, with 100 making any missiles fired undetectable with super track
• infinite weight: All Weapon Load-outs weight nothing.

Sure, there’s some more that I could think of others could add, but this alone would make me play 10x times more than I do cause I don’t play multiplayer.

[neat tangle]

trust me if u knew unity youd know why lol i did manage to get infinite counter measures and turret ammo once a long time ago and as were speaking weightless munitions are being developed as for the rest i could maybe set the radar cross section to a negative value IR I have no idea the biggest hurdle is getting it to affect the player and not ai good ideas thow ill add them to the list

[proper crater]

I’m actually dumbfounded, that the most popular cheap trainer (WeMod) don’t have any cheats for it, but “PLITCH” does. But they never work.

[neat tangle]

the problem is when the game updates they usually break and NO updates a lot so

[proper crater]

I have some game developing experience and modding experience, but I’ve never modded in unity, but I’ve played a lot of games using unity that have these things so is there something that just makes this game different?

[proper crater]

Well, I opened a ticket with PLITCH and they pushed their update to match the current update for nuclear option and shit still don’t work.

Like some things work I can sometimes get infinite ammo or infinite flames but it’s a coin toss

[neat tangle]

as an example with the weightless munitions im devoloping now theres a lot of safety checks its not as easy as other unity games basically tug of war with the engine lol and things like god mode the planes have extremely detailed models youd need to edit each part

[neat tangle]

yup its that tug of war issue again

[proper crater]

Personally I just want infinite health and missiles.

Now in a perfect world, the only thing I would want the most is the following in order:

1. infinite health
2. Infinite Missiles (turret if possible, but missiles are more important)
3. Infinite Stealth (Can’t be detected or locked on)
4. Infinite Counter Measures.

Of those 4 things are the odds good that that can be done or nah

Modding would be a whole lot easier if game devs would just create a modeling tool for the community like Bethesda has since like the beginning of time and but that’s something I think every dev should do. ESPECIALLY games that are being released in “EARLY ACCESS” (AKA alpha/beta stage).

And if they charge money to be released in an early development stage and then I feel like it should be required, but that’s just me

[neat tangle]

infinite health for me personaly i dont believe i could infinite missiles you could maybe disable collision and weight and stack like 999 misiles on one hardpoint would be very dificult thow infinite stealth very possible however nagain the ai issue they would end up using it and infinite countermeasures very easy also infinite fuel possible weight issues thow

[neat tangle]

modding tools are in the official roadmap

[proper crater]

Oh, I didn’t know that . that’s good to hear. I just wanna know how in-depth it is..

Like I said, I have some experience in game developing and some modding. Biggest project I’ve worked on is adding the entirety of RuneScapes skills and game mechanics to Minecraft.

I’ve always just wondered why games don’t launch with modding support/modding tools because there’s no negatives to it and especially for games that are in like early release. It allows the community to make a ton of content to keep the player base high while the devs work on the content, they already have planned to add to the vanilla game.

[neat tangle]

making and maintaning a mod kit through constant updates adds a huge amount of work on top off the game you have to update the game then the modkit too not very viable especially with a small game such as this

[neat tangle]

modding isnt too in depth its just a lot of cat and mouse and trying to find clever ways around problems because the direct approach never works trust me

[devout vector]

further modding support is in development. We will only add official modding support for features that are "locked-down" and unlikely to be overhauled and break mods.

imagine if every update broke liveries and workshop missions, like unofficial mods are prone to do

[neat tangle]

major crashout

[proper crater]

I’m aware. Haha

[proper crater]

Them creating a dedicated Modding API and Modding Toolkit (ex: Creation Kit) would help.

[neat tangle]

@patent pilot re wrote the missile types if you could try this much appreciated

[neat tangle]

forgot to say but if your interested in weapons etc please visit my other mod #1466485588516405423 message

[grand verge]

a mod to clear debris from the map would be useful.
I know you can set it up somewhere iirc. a limit of sorts. but i like to keep the limit high, but at some point hangars get filled with debris and get you stuck when spawning. really annoying. and those debris dont seem to despawn for some reason

A bypass weapon range limit would also be neat. would work well with both the weapon utility and unrestricted weapons.

Like imagine using a ton of lynchpins from across the map. for some it wont make much sense, like AGM 48, since they are easily intercepted, especially with a larger distance. but if eventually a mod is made to make weapons undetecable, then it will work like a charm

[grand verge]

Oh and also infinite energy/battery or so? for planes.
So i can use the laser without limits, or, idk, the railgun? cuz that stuff requires a lot of energy

a simple addon for planes would also do it, yknow, like the ECM pods or so, but as energy storage additions instead with infintie energy (and maybe some that only give you like 100 or 200% more energy for those that want it more realistic)

[neat tangle]

infinite flares flue and power coming soon

[molten panther]

Got another QOL idea.

Probably a little more involved.

It would do magic to have a way to read Selected Weapons descriptions as displayed in the hanger, but for when you're actually in the plane/heli.

The way I wish this was implemented in main game, is through a new MDF panel called WEP, where you can click on a list of on board weapons and read stats/description.

[neat tangle]

just to get this right because the ai read this and wrote a script of gibberish a screen inside the cockpit displays the weapon description like the typed out or the explosive yield armor penetration etc?

[molten panther]

So, simplest thing, would be when a weapon is Selected as a pilot, to show the description you'd normally see from the loadout screen when selecting a weapon

[neat tangle]

on a screen or just on screen generaly like a box in the bottom left

[molten panther]

Like in a box is fine.

Like a regular hud element

The MDF stuff is wishful thinking

[neat tangle]

should be fairly straight forward probably wont look the best but easy enough

ill add it to the list

[molten panther]

Ate these going to be seperate mods, or a collection?

[neat tangle]

for now seperate mods until i get my footing with config manager becuase right now its a mess with multiple mods on one plugin lol

[molten panther]

That good though, because mods that break the game, or give unfair advantage should be seperate downloads to just QOL features for multi-player sake

[neat tangle]

all my weapon / "cheat mods" are in my weapon utility thread these are purely qol

[neat tangle]

plus all my weapon utility mods have multiplayer disabled and are scrambbles

[molten panther]

Oh neat

[grand verge]

idk if this was suggested yet

but just a mod to disable the blackout when turning hard

just fully disable it, kinda hate it

[neat tangle]

i really dont expect this to work but pls test thnx

[neat tangle]

if you do end up testing screenshots / vcideos of the problem would be great

[molten panther]

Oh cool, I'll check when I get time

[patent pilot]

this version causes absurd lag for whatever reason, down to 11 fps from 110

this is in spectator too, meaning there aren't even any incoming missiles

[neat tangle]

Hmmmm I’ll have another loo at it when I can

[proper crater]

Appreciate you linking that to me.

Can you give me a quick summary of what’s possibles with your mod

[neat tangle]

In its current state you can affect missile speed very buggy thow due to over shooting gonna add an improved turn rate too and the other much more successful mod removes the weight from all missiles and bombs for example you can carry 18 pile drives and it’s like you’ve got none at all

And soon hopefully you can affect a weapons explosive yield and penetration

[patent pilot]

any updates?

[neat tangle]

sorry completely forgot been focused on weapon utility ill compile this test build andhave a look what was the issue? arads not functioning?

[neat tangle]

if you re write the issue and @ me the ai should summarise please include if anythings missing from config too

[patent pilot]

is bad peformance not the issue..?

[neat tangle]

previous issue before the last file

[neat tangle]

the last file i sent was the previouse attempt

[patent pilot]

arh or ?

[neat tangle]

the original issue you had with the last stable file

[patent pilot]

arh missiles weren't being effected by the mod when they were in terminal track

[neat tangle]

pitbull mode?

[patent pilot]

yeah

[neat tangle]

ok ill try and find that specific audio.source the original file linked to SARH and ARM totally forgot they have a pitbull audio

[neat tangle]

try that please

[open marten]

@neat tangle what if when turrets get a lock (crosshair has a circle around it) or when missile can shoot and it says "SHOOT" it played a high pitch tone just like real planes do when they get a lock on enemy? The ir waaaaa sound

Thank you so much

[grand verge]

just a silly idea: but is it possible to make a mod that makes the 76MM canon shoot... idk, bombs instead of those guided shells?
A "Custom 76MM canon Mod" or so, you can make it shoot anything, from AGM 68's to TBM Nukes to even 250KT nukes.
When selecting missiles, it obviously will just fire them like normal, but like, in a spam-y kind of way
And when selecting a bomb, you can also toggle a veolicty slider (in the F1 config menu) where you can make the bomb shoot out at 1000kmh or 100000kmh or what ever you want i guess.

Would be silly and fun, and since the 76mm canon is the only one that shoots shots that are like actual objects (i think, you can intercept them and view them on the map and all) you SHOULD be able to replace them with anythign you want

[neat tangle]

funny you should mention that its exactly what im working on sort of im finalising the blast yield / penetration mod now and the end goal is to be able to "swap warheads"

[limber sage]

I think the simplest solution would just be adding an interchangeable yield instead of a new projectiles, unless you want a boosted projectile then yea

[neat tangle]

#1466485588516405423 message

[neat tangle]

this is true however yiled does not equal effect so for example thos lynchpins are more powerful than low yield nukes but theres no nuke effect the interchangable system would allow effect swaping i think

[limber sage]

Yea

[grand verge]

no because you see, the guided shells can be very inaccurate if you arent at a certain distance, and wont hit at all if you are TOO far away.
Having it fire AGM missiles or idk, ASHM's or so would for 1 be funny to look at, 2 be total chaos and funny, 3 be pretty accurate and 4 would also be more destructive

[neat tangle]

while techinically possible i imagine that everytime you fire it would freeze

[grand verge]

i was imagining it like, you said when the bombs/missiles leave your plane, they turn into a separate object. So what if instead of turning into the Guided shell like normally with the 76mm canon, it would turn into a bomb. Would it really lag?
And regarding the video you sent, i mean, it is nice and and OP and all, but visually not much since its just a normal lynchpin but more damage. If it had also the visuals of a small nuke or so, it would be better

now it made me think of a 250kt nuke with no damage... pure visuals

[neat tangle]

thats the plan for 2.0 of the mod is the warheads swap as theyre purely visual as for the swap it would mean summoning the 76 shell and then despawn respawn ( i think? ) havent really looked into that route yet

these mods have always mainly been for personal prefrence balancing eg if you think some weapons are underpowered buff them yourself thats the main goal of this pack

[grand verge]

cant you just make it summon what ever the player picks instead of the 76mm shell instantly? then there would be no need for despawn and spawn in first place

[neat tangle]

perhaps although im very far from this level yet ill enquire with the more advanced modders when i start looking into it

[neat tangle]

@open marten looking good

[fresh aspen]

if you can find the mount for the 76mm for the tarantula, and get the gun component, you can change the guided shell field to point to the missile def of whatever you would like it to fire, should be able to slap in whatever there

[neat tangle]

I got really sidetracked ill finish the plane half of it tommorow but for now here helicopter turrets

[open marten]

YESS THANK YOU

[open marten]

Wait so this is only for chicane?

[open marten]

You should add disable option and a buyton to choose one from file

File as in look for sounds in a folder called LockSounds

İnside plugins

[neat tangle]

ill probably add a mute button next to the slider ( easy to add ) and ill have to look into hot loading the audio

just a heads up to anyone actively in here my mod development and patches / updates will be slowing down over the next few days due to school I have to attend online lessons and small assignments however I will still be doing little bits here and there hopefully most of the mods are in a playable state you can still request features and ask for eta etc the ai that sums up requests is still active in the QOL thread for anyone that doesnt know just @ me ( make sure my @ is at the start of the message ) and make your request the ai will sumarise and add it to my list thank you!

[neat tangle]

this will fix duplicate audio and it noww loops still turrets only as im very busy atm but did some small patches and thought id do this too lol

[dark hemlock]

thanks bro appreciate it

[dark hemlock]

you a rea l one

is the shoot still not made or

wip?

[neat tangle]

wip im only doing small patches and finalising another mod today one of my most requested was infinite ammo i think i may have found a way without ai getting the advantage but its very stuttery atm

[dark hemlock]

still thank you so much

[neat tangle]

np

[dark hemlock]

is it me or the turrets now fail to aim at a2a targets

wth

i swear it freaks out

[neat tangle]

erm it doesnt actually affect the aimining source essentially when a target is locked target.locked changes from false to true when this happens your audio que activates theres a hud refresh that maybe could? could you try removing the mod and seeing if it works again please

[neat tangle]

might not look like much to everyone here but it took me a long time ( its a test bed for a mod ) this would be my first major qol mod ( if i can do it lol )

[dark hemlock]

alright

[dark hemlock]

wait what is this

i dont understand

[neat tangle]

It’s nothing atm but eventually ( hopefully ) it would allow things like putting the map on a second monitor

To be honest thow I’m really struggling with this and I know a couple other people are working on something similar so I’ll see how it goes lol

[dark hemlock]

ah thats sick

[vast panther]

I've noticed that having the smart rwr mod on reduces my FPS, is that happening for anyone else ?

relevant player.log

[neat tangle]

i suppose its possible it could it uses maths to combine speed and distance i suppose if its constantly running it could strain it? i didnt look too much in to smart rwr as it was a very specific request but if you could compare with and without and send some screenshots that would be good

[neat tangle]

new menu

not out yet but supports any bepinex config mod

[patent pilot]

we already have a config manager..?

[neat tangle]

I’m tryna learn better ui and integration so this was just my attempt

[pastel latch]

Is there anything that adds head movement / leaning controls? The ability to lean ~30cm in any direction would be nice when not using headtracking.

[neat tangle]

do you mean like tilting the camera so you can look down out the window?

[pastel latch]

Yeah, so like, being able to set a custom default head position by aircraft or set keybinds for adjusting the offset on the fly.

[pastel latch]

In this video I used opentrack to set a higher, slightly forward head position and edited the lean left/right curve to start much sooner than the default camera does.

It worked great, but crashed the game after a bit so I figured a plugin was the way to go.

[dark hemlock]

THIS!!!! OMG YOU DONT KNOW FOR HOW LONG I WANTED THIS

i need this to use with hotas without using headtrack

[neat tangle]

ive never used camera controls really but i can look into im doing qol testing atm so ye sure ill check it out

i will have to be very carefull thow as messing with camera could possibly lead to closet cheats so no promises lol but ill have someone check it out before i release

lil qol ive wanted for a while in the works

[dark hemlock]

DAMN

you should try and make a mod to recolor jhmcjsds

the hud

[neat tangle]

nuclear option hud got me like

[open marten]

[gusty flint]

Request - "Target presets"

having a hotkey/menu/button you can click which changes the selected "TGT" options i.e "Only ships", "AA Vehicles", "Just buildings" or "Enemy Aircraft only"

Often I find myself at the start of sorties (especially when switching tasking) that I am clicking through to change the target preset a lot, often to the same sort of config.

[neat tangle]

u mean like it only targets for instance aa in a huge grouping of blips or it removes the other blips and only shows aa?

[remote salmon]

cockpit camera inertia on the roll axis would make this game way more immersive fr

[neat tangle]

i can probably look into this tbf ive got a similar mod on my list

[gusty flint]

I just mean having presets of this:

[neat tangle]

so like numpad 1 disables all but aa?

[gusty flint]

For example this preset would be "Anti AA vehicles"

[gusty flint]

Yeah. Ideally having it user configurable

[neat tangle]

wow thats a surprisingly simple request very rare to see ye ill put it on the list

[gusty flint]

Thanks!

[neat tangle]

np

[gusty flint]

Or this one as "anti missile"

You get the idea 😅

[remote salmon]

yo plss let me know if you ever make Something like that 🥹

[warm geode]

Request - "build in radar jammers"

[neat tangle]

i made this extremely quickly so i only tested it briefly but please experiment with the settings

[remote salmon]

omg
How do I get it working?

[neat tangle]

throw it into plugins like normal and then use config manager to adjust the settings

[gusty flint]

Just tested, this is really nice. Any cahnce of getting it on the modmanagers?

[neat tangle]

im gonna recompile all my mods with their new versions soon and get them on there some are just too unstable or missing features atm i think the mod manager has an install from file option thow if you wanted it for disable re enable etc

[arctic shell]

i just had an idea so i'm gonna reach for the stars since i see this requested constantly and it feels kinda like the smart rwr mod in here (i really love that mod, it's so cool)

could we get lock tones for the IR missiles?

i can do some research to provide examples or more accurate language, i don't know anything about this sort of thing myself but it seems like it'd be useful and cool

it's actually been requested before in here, i think!

[neat tangle]

ye i tinkered with it a bit you basically hook a sound to play when IR missiles are selected then when you lock an enemy it plays the noise the issue was not getting it to make the locking noise without having IR selected and getting it to work with the lock and shoot mod and the audio swapper mod im gonna rebuild the audio swapper mod for nuclear option when i get the time but it will probably be my biggest project

[arctic shell]

hell yeah, i think that would be a much-loved mod if you can find the time

[remote salmon]

works really good, thank you so much ❤️

[gusty flint]

For this mod, I have seen some... weird behaviour when switching fron first and third person, as well as when respawning if you died while rolling

[neat tangle]

If you could describe exactly the issues I’ll as them to the list

[gusty flint]

i will record a clip

[open marten]

@neat tangle

When will you finish target lock mod

[neat tangle]

It’s pretty much done I just need to fix a little bug with it I’ll push it out when the rest of the mods and patches are ready

[patent pilot]

any possibility for a config option to turn off the intial missile warning sfx? love this mod

[neat tangle]

hmmmm short term you could use audio switcher to swap the file with just a muted in the long run i could add that yes smart rwr is getting a rework thow as it tanks fps currently

im just very reluctant to make new mods or push huge updated with the new update just arounf the corner

[open marten]

Oh fr? Thanks!

İ have a new mod idea

What if we could see OUR body? (Just like co pilot mod but maybe no helmet so it doesnt clip?

[neat tangle]

you mean look down in first person and see legs etc?

[open marten]

Yes

İ need feet

[neat tangle]

Interesting

[open marten]

Making me feel like a test subject

[stiff ore]

it be cool if we got a tim to impact count down for each missle launche don the hud similar to VTOLVR

[gusty flint]

Example. This is from dying while banked, but similar behaviour seen if you bank while in 3rd person, then switch back to first person

[neat tangle]

Hmmm I see looks like it saves the last axis position on death I’ll add it to the list ( the mod only changes one axis )

[rocky lintel]

Amazing initiative, thanks for sharing!
I wonder, would it be hard or disruptive to make the airbase map icons to keep showing during flight instead of spectating only?

When I'm flying support & maintenance, sometimes it's hard to see where exactly the destination airbase is for recap/reconstruction. Most of the time I just have to memorize where the destination is before I spawn. Thanks

[neat tangle]

Do you mean the big blue circles?

[neat tangle]

i think this may already exist? i cabt remember where but i believe ive seen it

[gusty flint]

It also happens when toggling from first and third person too btw!

[neat tangle]

the reset axis should fix that too

[gusty flint]

On this one, its mostly the names for me tbh

[neat tangle]

could you elaborate?

[gusty flint]

Showing the airport names on the map. At the moment the airport marker and name only show on the map when choosing a spawn point

[neat tangle]

so like text on the map?

i was planning on making a mod that lets you draw on the map if thats the same?

[gusty flint]

Oh maybe I lost the context from the original message, but yes just an option for keeping the airport names on the map would be helpful

[neat tangle]

i could include text to the map mod as long as your ok with naming the airports yourself shouild work

[rocky lintel]

Yeah, that one

[gusty flint]

What do you mean naming yourself? I just mean showing the airport name e.g sandrift, feldspar etc

[neat tangle]

ye so youd be able to put a textbox anywhere on the map including at the airports

[gusty flint]

Ah okay yes

[neat tangle]

i think this also falls into the draw on the map mod

[rocky lintel]

Isn't that already a thing when you hover over the icon? Not sure how that works on controllers though
So if we could see the icons after spawning, simply hovering over them would let us see the name of the base, no?

[gusty flint]

So once you spawn, and look at the map, those logos and that text no longer show

[rocky lintel]

That's precisely what I was requesting originally, for us to be able to see them after spawning 😄

[gusty flint]

I thought it was just for the icon, my bad

Its more for ref when someone says "oh i am east of K92 or whatever I dont have to spend an age figuring out what is what

[rocky lintel]

np np. Only the icon would already be a great help, but if we can see the whole thing, that'd be even better, yeah

[neat tangle]

just so people know I am still making mods lol

[umbral vortex]

My request is; would you show me how do you make mods so I can contribute by making mods as well?

[neat tangle]

Lord pump is in the process of making a guide that features how to make a mod but unfortunately you need basic c programming knowledge id recommend watching some basic tutorials and then learning unity’s basic structure there’s also some useful links I’ll send

https://unitycheatsheet.com/#/

https://docs.unity3d.com/2022.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/MonoBehaviour.

[umbral vortex]

Thanks!

[heavy lake]

About that... I should try to contact Max again, see how he´s doing with the template

I´ve been ill and with exams the past days so I´m pretty much arms crossed in regards to the guide, but I want to keep on it. If Max finally decides to make the repository, I´ll have to redesign the entire Section II... and yeah, I´m not doing that again 💀

[neat tangle]

good luck lol

[wintry spear]

Request to have a file just for the weapons... I kinda just want to throw the literal tungsten rod of god at people.

[neat tangle]

could you elaborate please

[wintry spear]

I like the weapons that are in QoL, but sometimes I just want to use them and ONLY them, not any of the other QoL features. Sort of like a weapons pack.

[neat tangle]

ah i see the confusion this isnt the QOL mod forum this is my QOL mods https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1457936949741617223 thats the qol mod your thinking of however requests are handled in the primerva 2082 discord

i need to update the forums name lol 3rd time its happened

[wintry spear]

ahh, someone directed me here

[neat tangle]

ye no problem lol are you in the 2082 discord?

[wintry spear]

apologies for the confusion

[wintry spear]

yes I am

got into the stuff yesterday and CAN NOT stop playing with all the mods

[neat tangle]

hahahaha they are really good the weapons are great too a couple of my mods work with it too weightless munitions and unlimited ammo oh and gun modifiers lol

JUSTJ'S QOL mods and requests

[gusty flint]

Oooooooooo

Like this

[dark hemlock]

@neat tangle whats up with target shoot mod?

[neat tangle]

theres a small bug i need to squash then it should be fine

[open marten]

Yay

Thanks

[gusty flint]

Target shoot mod?

[neat tangle]

it will release with the other mods when im ready

sorry just realised you were asking what it was lol

basically when it says SHOOT when a targets locked in range it loops an audio file

#1466478023879688213 message

[gusty flint]

Yea didnt know if that was referring to the presets thing we discussed thats all 🙂

[neat tangle]

ah no although thats nearly done just tryna integrate it to my new ui but i hate making ui lol

[golden olive]

Making a request here because it would be really funny and it's the last thing I need before I can start doing silly stuff for a mod to replace the look of the main menu UI as well as the main menu music

I will be using this for like a 30-second bit in a video I plan to make

[neat tangle]

I could be wrong but doesn’t chads mod do this?

[golden olive]

just the backgtound image

not the text like for mp/sp

[neat tangle]

Ok I’m a little confused sorry so the whole menu or just a background image and audio?

[golden olive]

the menu UI

like the buttons

and the audio

[neat tangle]

I’ll check it out Audio would be easy but honestly I hate ui still I’ll look into it and be brutally honest lol

[golden olive]

I'd like to exhange it and the balck bar from that of another game for a bit lmfao

[neat tangle]

Chat we made it ( skip to 10:00 ) https://youtu.be/M31kBGG0H1g

[dark hemlock]

YOU MADE IT 🔥

[open marten]

Yo @neat tangle i have a very sick idea on my mind but just so i let you know before i tellvyou its gonna be pretty hard to make, but should be possible

What if, we had a mod, that both friends had, and when one friend gets a 2 seat plane like compass, and had a setting in configurator like (compass 2nd pilot - enabled) the other person could join before they took off (which would be triggered by the aircraft theme going off or landing gear or altitude change)

And so how this works is, the second pilots inputs are only firing, selecting targets, deselectings, jam, flare, night vision

And to not have problems, we could have so for example when one player selects a target, the other player gets an input registered in game (as if he clicked) and selects target, or shoots, or uses flares

[neat tangle]

someone actually made a demo of this and gave up on it due to the way this would have to be handled its pretty much impossible for me networking is borderline black magic im sure someone will one day or maybe even the devs but for me simply not possible

[open marten]

İ mean you could be first

Ohh

Sorry

İ thought i readt networking is borderline black magic

Didnt see the “for me”

well ill suggest to NOMS

he a smart fella

[neat tangle]

good luck

[gentle rivet]

Hi so can you add some sort of ruler or a compass drawing tool to make circles on the tactical map to measure ranges?

It'll be helpful for time on target attacks where various munitions with different speeds can hit the target all at the same time

[ember bolt]

Could you make a basic mod for me please?
I just want to see my speed in decimal m/s, nothing much really
ty!

[neat tangle]

I have a mod half baked to allow drawing on the map I do have planes to add a feature like this too

[neat tangle]

Doesn’t the game already track in m/s?

[ember bolt]

For altitude and alt change/sec, yes
but unfort I don't believe it does for speed, only kts and kmh

I'll check now though

Yep only kts and kmh for speed

[neat tangle]

If you could send a screenshot of what exactly you mean much appreciated

[ember bolt]

One sec I'll rig it up

[neat tangle]

I think I already know what you mean but better safe than sorry lol

[ember bolt]

Fair lol

That's literally all lol

That screenshot is with NOTT btw

but obviously just the same modification
I think NOTT doesn't mess with speed

[neat tangle]

I see does NOTT already add the change or is this just edited?

[ember bolt]

This is edited

NOTT only adds to the HUD, not replaces I think?

Excluding the weapons/CMs vanilla menu

But it def doesnt touch speed, I checked

[neat tangle]

Ok no worries it’s just if a mod already adds a feature i usually don’t make it to avoid overlapping but ye should be pretty easy to change I’ll take a look when im on my pc

[ember bolt]

Yeah makes sense, ty

[gentle rivet]

Sure, could I try it?

[neat tangle]

it's no where near finished lol and is riddled with bugs im gonna be working on my qol mods tonight so i can maybe get a test version out soon I'll @ you if you dont mind the ping when its out

[gentle rivet]

Ok then no rush 👍

[neat tangle]

is this what you meant?

[ember bolt]

pretty much yeah

[ember bolt]

if you could add decimals (XXX.Xm/s) that'd be good but that's great ty

[neat tangle]

i realise why i stopped tryna make this lol i hate ui mods

[neat tangle]

ok finally seems too work ok i had to entirely remake it as the old code was awful

[neat tangle]

#1479676614311673997 message have fun drawing we all know what on the map lol

[neat tangle]

you all know what this is

[neat tangle]

a little better

[wide zenith]

what in the project wingman

[neat tangle]

Hahahaha that’s the plan I wanna make a little custom mission with this and audio switcher lol

[ivory tangle]

Is there a way to take the center-of-screen selector and make it independent from the player's viewing direction?

Making that selector indepedent when trackIR is enabled would be a game changer since visual painting sucks.

I feel like this would be deep in the game logic and difficult to change though

[neat tangle]

I’m not sure what exactly this means if you could try and explain it a bit more in depth would appreciate it

[ivory tangle]

There's a selector in the center of the screen. The one that you paint targets with, that you move with the right stick on controller.

I'm saying it would be useful to make that independent of the camera and able to be moved across the screen freely, in the same way that the icon for your selected target moves around the screen independently.

[neat tangle]

so the camera is facing head on but you can move the selector off the the left for example?

[ivory tangle]

Yes. My dream behaviour would be to use trackIR for looking, but use my right thumbstick to control that selector. If it could be made to center in the view tied to a keybind, and move independently after being centered, that would be ideal.

Do you think that kind of behavior is possible to implement?

[neat tangle]

so your camera is controlled with track ir and the selector right stick?

or is it the other way around?

[neat tangle]

I think it’s maybe possible? I’ve done some camera and hud stuff before so maybe?

[neat tangle]

tried making rain and instead made snow why are unity tutorials a million years old

[neat tangle]

cinematics boutta go crazy

[modern osprey]

please just, just make a "flat platform" that can spawn every plane

literally copy the medium hanger code and reskin it

[ember bolt]

would a mod that places all units on datalink in singleplayer-only be possible?
for making and practicing routes

[neat tangle]

like being able to soo every enemy unit?

[ember bolt]

Yeah, see every unit on the map pretty much

[neat tangle]

sadly even with strict multiplayer checks it could still very easily be turned into a cheat and most people wont touch it id recommend mission editor and hide radar underground or high up

[ivory tangle]

Sorry but... what? The game has no anti-cheat. That's no argument for why a mod should or shouldn't be developed.

[arctic shell]

the community itself is the anti-cheat, in that case, and must enforce these things themselves, as justj7780 is doing here

it is a perfectly fine reason

[neat tangle]

just because a game doesnt have anti cheat doesnt mean we should make cheats

the old mod thread got deleted for things like this im not gonna add to it getting taken down a second time

[ivory tangle]

I suppose you two are right, only because the community is so small that it's a viable strategy for now.

It just seems like there are more elegant solutions, like adding software serverside to read such mods and kick players who have them loaded.

Which could of course be countered by the cheater obfuscating the plugin themselves. This whole strategy relies heavily on player laziness. Once you get two or three assholes with Claude code starting their own forum it's donezo.

[arctic shell]

whenever it is discovered that people have come up with cheats, the community necessarily has to develop countermeasures, yes

we can only hope the devs and steam continue to add measures themselves against them, as well

[neat tangle]

there is community made anti cheat but theres no guarantee every server uses it and cheats like seeing everything would be pretty hard to detect id imagine

we did get a patch from the devs to stop mass spawning off illegal items about a month ago the issue is the time it takes too patch these issues ofsets actual gameplay development

[ivory tangle]

Would be a simple matter of blacklisting some kind of tag embedded in the mod itself, which would be simple to counter by altering the mod's code. Perhaps obfuscating or encrypting the mod would make it difficult to find the blacklisted checksum by novice users

[arctic shell]

it is probably unwise to discuss such things

[ivory tangle]

I disagree as a rule of thumb.

[neat tangle]

I looked into multiplayer countermeasures and decided the best way to counter the cheats is not too make them at all if someone else does there's nothing i can do to stop them but me personally i wont develop such things

[arctic shell]

i understand completely, i wish cheaters/griefers were not such an issue

[ivory tangle]

we must counter the cheaters by making the game always online and only allowing unlocks through premium currency grinds. maybe we should come up with a better name for the game. explosions make a lot of sound. Nuclear Thunder, maybe?

[arctic shell]

pls no, I just want to fly planes and helicopters with people for twenty bucks

[ivory tangle]

by that logic, you would get more value by adding more planes and helicopters for additional cost

[arctic shell]

i look forward to the modding tools and mission making/map creation tools being more functional and easy to use so that more planes and helicopters and so on can be made for FREE (i ain't a modder but I love their mad creations)

[ivory tangle]

I'm sure tools will make it easier, but making new planes is just insanely complicated no? I personally would be happy with reskins 😛

[arctic shell]

anyways justj any luck with #1466478023879688213 message ? twas a while back

[neat tangle]

I'm a modder and hate my creations

[ivory tangle]

Frankenstein's spaghetti monster

[neat tangle]

oh yeah forgot about this I actually did some testing with the LOCK FIRE mod im not sure what came of it now that im done with the crayons mod i'll look into this againm

[arctic shell]

i was kinda imagining something like the reverse of smartrwr tbh

[neat tangle]

I also need to finish the target priority preset mod

[arctic shell]

where it'd make angrier noises as your IR missile became more likely to murder the enemy you were locked onto

i think that'd be fun y'know

[neat tangle]

I did get it to make the sound when you have an irm-s2 equipeed i cant remember if i got the WAHHHHH to work i think i did?

[arctic shell]

might be tough to make? smartrwr seems likely to be black magic all on its own

but I really love it

[neat tangle]

smart rwr is also getting a rework as it tanks fps sadly but its actually just a measure of speed + distance and a little angle too

[arctic shell]

i look forward to either/both for sure

[neat tangle]

the first couple prototyps of smart rwr thow they they.... they were not good........

[arctic shell]

i can imagine, i find the current version of smartrwr pretty tolerable, but i am very tolerant of low fps lmao

[neat tangle]

new version will remove scanning and ( should ) not touch fps at all

[arctic shell]

wonderful! higher fps does help me blow things up more effectively and beautifully, i can't deny that

[neat tangle]

As for the more aggressive when higher chance to kill I could probably add that is it gets closer to the NEZ

[arctic shell]

the built-in NEZ isn't very useful, right? i wonder what the most useful way to implement the IR angry noises would be, someone wiser than I might have to pop in

i suppose you don't want it to be too useful

there are times when it is just barely possible to swing an S2 off to the side and those are what I'm hoping to be informed of, mostly

[neat tangle]

Essentially it would just track how far the enemy is enemy is far = low chance as enemy gets closer chance goes up = higher pitch / speed

[arctic shell]

yeah, that makes sense! if it kept getting angrier as you got closer, while still in the cone for tracking, that'd be perfect, I think?

wonder if it could account for how different the S1s are? i mostly fly the chicane these days so that's often what I'm working with

[neat tangle]

The distance to target is already measured by munition using the min and max so it should work dynamically

[arctic shell]

excellent

[ember bolt]

damn what'd i miss

[ember bolt]

that's understandable
i'll do that instead then, ty

[neat tangle]

does this sound like the original smart rwr or too fast / pitched?

[arctic shell]

i think it's a little higher pitched

[neat tangle]

i thought so lol ill mess with the times and sety max

fps is much better thow

[warm geode]

Add like the maximum pitch and just flat it out

So the pitch graph will look like this.. Maybe

[neat tangle]

You can adjust the starting and end pitch also how many seconds to impact to actually start the curve

[warm geode]

[neat tangle]

tryna get the ai's to talk in chat seems to be working ok atleast it knows its been hit

JUSTJ'S Mod dev and requests

[arctic shell]

it would be interesting if they could talk when they take off and set their targets, perhaps mention what weapons they had that were usable on the targets if not what they actually were going to use

[neat tangle]

this mod has a sister mod that lets you target a friendly aircraft and ask it questions like loadout fuel target etc

[arctic shell]

stuff like that seems like it might be accessible due to how early they set their plans, but they switch pretty fluidly and it could get annoying

[neat tangle]

i also want enemy aircraft to sometimes trash talk the player

[arctic shell]

of course, they should be mean to reinforce our desire to improve

pve should simulate pvp!

[neat tangle]

i also plan to let them talk but how exactly i let them do that i dont know yet

[arctic shell]

i am pretty sure that airbases themselves set objectives for intercepting nearby aircraft, if not other things, and that might be cool to have as a sort of commander/awacs dialogue

[neat tangle]

audio will 100% go to the sister mod first so when you ask speed and fuel it actually speaks instead of spamming chat my only concern with adding it to this mod is your gonna have 7 ai's talking over eachother lol

[arctic shell]

right, it might need to be nearby aircraft only or some other kind of priority system, right?

hard to make it work without being annoying

[neat tangle]

the text chat is already random so sometimes they dont type i'll probably just make audio callouts even rarer and add a cooldwon like radio chatter

i nned to expand their vocabulary first thow so far they only know 3 things

[arctic shell]

someday we'll have a proper wingman/squadron system

then you could just make it mostly them talking, for example

[neat tangle]

fingers crossed i did make a test of a medusa that follows you but wow was it broken it worked but they would very quickly bug out at one point it was his sole mission to chase and crash into me

[arctic shell]

the medusa knows where it is at all times etc etc

[arctic shell]

while I'm in here I suppose I'm obligated to mention this again

[neat tangle]

hahahaha i was just about to type i need to finish that too i'll probably carry on now i tend to not stay on a mod too long or i get burnout real bad and GAS has been giving me a headache

[arctic shell]

yeah I keep an eye on GAS all the time man, that thread is wild, mod's haunted

looks super interesting though

[neat tangle]

trust me could you summarise what you wanted on lock fire again please?

IR tone right?

[arctic shell]

so I think the ideal case would be that as soon as you got in range with an IR missile selected, it would start making a noise, and as the hit became more certain, the noise would change, and if it became less certain because you or the target's speed/angle changes, the noise would change in another way

very similar to smart RWR

I love knowing how much danger I am in from IR missiles from the sound alone with smart RWR, and it has made me dream of having the opposite

[arctic shell]

"in range" being probably less than 3 KM tbh

[neat tangle]

should be easy just link speed and pich to the NEZ amount

[arctic shell]

assume competence on the part of the enemy basically

but make it customizable like smart RWR I suppose

[neat tangle]

of course i prefer making settings customisable so people have less to complain about lol

[arctic shell]

indeed, it's wise

[limber sage]

combine this ^ with QOL and you get the average mutliplayer match

[modern osprey]

Please just I need this

[neat tangle]

I’m not 100% sure how to add custom assets too the game yet although I am looking into it

[modern osprey]

What if you make it an invisible node that's visible via the airbase menu, like the runway nodes

[neat tangle]

its more actually making and then loading it in as an independant asset without replacing something else once gas is fixed and LOCK SHOOT is updated im gonna look into custom assets

[limber sage]

would it be possible for a mod which removes structural limits on airframes? [also the effect of making everything but the pilot invincible?]

for example in modifiable terms 1 = stock structural limits and 10 means ifrit can take 220 gs before ripping apart?

[neat tangle]

sadly this would be very easy to make into cheats so until the devs alter airframes code I sadly wont release this I already have it but cant release it just in case

[limber sage]

No MP blocker ability or like smth?

[neat tangle]

yes however an experienced coder would be able to strip it i am looking at making a more robust MP blocker but until then sadly im gonna have to archive it

the goal would be make it so much effort to remove it that it isnt worth it but im not sure 100% how yet lol

[arctic shell]

seal it away in the book of black magic

[limber sage]

encrypt it or smth

or make it required by the code to work

[neat tangle]

sadly dll encryption isnt really a thing you can mess with the code a bit to make it harder to understand but i also dont know 100% how that works lol once im done with a couple other mods im goinna look into updating weapon mods and adding new features i'll test it out then to see ho solid i can get the mp blocker

[limber sage]

alr

[neat tangle]

LOCK FIRE is nearly finished 🎉 video example coming soon

this is classic mode so very similar to real life theres an audio file for ahving it selected and then another for when its within the NEZ im gonna make custom mode now similar to smart rwr so as you go from max to min distance it pitches / speeds up

also still has the helicopter turret audio so when your on target and ready to fire you can play audio oh and ir and radar missiles can have seperate sounds

[modern osprey]

With everything open source rn anything is possible

[neat tangle]

ok custom mode with pitch change ( weirdly sounds like a stuka dive )

[arctic shell]

interesting! I remember the chicane turret sound request from a while back, but I wasn't expecting it to work on everything like that

you could even make it work on bombs when the release indicator is closer to being lined up, perhaps

[neat tangle]

this was the original idea of the mod an audio cue for when you should shoot i just never got round to it lol

[neat tangle]

good idea

[arctic shell]

would have to make sure the aircraft itself is lined up properly too for it to be ideal, I think

[neat tangle]

i'd imagine it would need tweaking a lot as it can rapdily change depending on speed and roll etc but possible

[arctic shell]

yeah, none of this is easy, just talking about the ideal

I think there would have to actually be per-weapon customization if it's going to work on everything like this

[neat tangle]

it currently supports per weapon for missiles kind of so wouldnt be too hard for bombs

i could just have it read what it says in the top right tbf

[arctic shell]

like I'd probably want 68s to start making sound if I get within maybe 8 KM and get more angry as I approach 2 KM, and it'd be totally different per weapon for each person I bet

then maybe a toggle to turn the whole thing off or on that I could hotkey

[neat tangle]

ah i see i could just re use the smart rwr min max for that

[arctic shell]

imagine it making stuka noises as you're doing a stratonuke with bombs and approaching 16-17 seconds ToF...

[neat tangle]

i did think that lol

[arctic shell]

excellent! but ToF is different than range once again, aaaah, it's complicated, I'm sorry

what a fun mod idea

thank you for working on it

[neat tangle]

hahaha i mean i can re use the base code and alter it lol

ok im pretty happy with the mod time to draft a release and wait for the bug reports lol

[neat tangle]

#1483899554276446369 message cant wait for the bug reports

[neat tangle]

i make no promises but I have been looking into maybe bringing back a dead legend

[gusty flint]

Just to ask, did you have any news on this? I may have missed it if so sorry

[gusty flint]

Similar for this

There is lots to scroll through 😅

[arctic shell]

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1483899554276446369 check this, but it just got released yesterday and is imperfect still depending on what you want

[gusty flint]

Dont think this is what I am looking for?

[arctic shell]

hmmm then I'm not even sure what target shoot is otherwise

there is indeed a lot to scroll through

oh, no, it is what was being referred to

what is the target shoot you're asking for, out of curiosity?

[gusty flint]

Ah sorry I quoted the wrong message of mine

Mine was regarding having target presets

There was a screenshot somewhere...

[arctic shell]

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1483822177261322430 someone else released this

[gusty flint]

#1466478023879688213 message

This

So you can have a button you press and it auto filters your targets to just AA or just radar, just missiles etc

[arctic shell]

ahh, that would be nice, it sucks having to use the filter menu for that atm, i basically just ignore it and target everything manually and then use NOTTs save feature for it

using the map for it is not ideal

[neat tangle]

I’ll patch this probably today

I can’t remember why I didn’t release this?

I’ll dig up the archive and give it a once over

[gusty flint]

this being the target presets?

or the patch for the intertia

[neat tangle]

Targets I don’t think I patched inertia yet

[gusty flint]

Please @ me if needs be, so hard to keep track in these threads haha

[neat tangle]

hey could you remind me what was wrong with inertia pls?

[gusty flint]

weird jerking when respawning if you died in third person or if you changed bank angle while in thrid person

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[neat tangle]

Appreciate it

[neat tangle]

I’m gonna rework target preset because wow it is pure spaghetti code lol

[neat tangle]

im a little sick atm could you test this and tell me if the issue is fixed pls

[gusty flint]

Will do!

[gusty flint]

And thanks 🙂

[neat tangle]

appreciate it

[gusty flint]

gimi like an hour

[neat tangle]

no problem

does this look like convincing rain?

ok first person needs more pixels

[gusty flint]

Hard to tell at night

[neat tangle]

i havent made a texture for them yet so night vision is the only way too see them lol i was more worried about the shape as i can see some beading

[gusty flint]

This seems to be fixed, thank you!

[neat tangle]

any other issues pls let me know

[gusty flint]

I need to double check when home but possibly was missing from configmgr, will confirm though

[neat tangle]

i think i changed the GUID but it should still show up

[gusty flint]

I was at the pub so forgot to check. will do now

[neat tangle]

so real

[gusty flint]

Yeah it is there, I am just dumb

[neat tangle]

no problem hahaha

[neat tangle]

still doesnt look amazing but it is visible now also the low fps clips are spawning 10000 particles the high fps are spawning 2200 there's a slider

still need to figure out how to make them react to the scene lighting and make the drops look better also clipping issue

[neat tangle]

ok it matches the scene lighting now thats good also GAS restructure and a couple other big mods have been delayed due to me being ill i'll make and update them when i can

[ember bolt]

I know it's a long shot, but maybe lobby host controls such as changing teams, rank/score, cash etc?
Would be useful for setting up events (say, 2 people on an OP BDF vs 8 on PALA) where you set your team to one people can't normally join in a mission.
If this was done though it would need to announce to chat (to stop hosts cheating easily with the mod). Obviously finish all you're doing first if you consider this, ty

[neat tangle]

I am currently working on an rts style set of mods for the host including air strikes, air drops, spawning aircraft and vehicles and I do plan on adding host features like money and airframes I just need to figure out a safe way to do so it also forbids the host from playing on teams and announces everytime someone joins that the host is basically god and repeats the message every couple of minutes it won’t be released till after the update thow just because it’s a very large mod set and update will 100% break it

[ember bolt]

Alright, that sounds fun, will probably play with it
however my thoughts were merely an admin-style panel, to set teams/mess with cash etc, where the host still plays but has controls
Also, instead of re-announcing you could selectively send message packets to joining players? Chat desync isn't an issue so could stop chatspam

You could probably adapt functions of one mod to another, however I suck at C# so wouldn't know lol

[neat tangle]

i suppose i could seperate certain parts of the mod for an admin panel the only issue is im not 100% sure whats safe yet big reason this mods been in the works for a while as for the chat messages they dont actually play like normal chat messages they use a special system so you can toggle the warnings on and off

[ember bolt]

Oh alright, makes sense for the warnings
also, a good anti tamper could try set up by doing something only the host could do (send a kick packet to a second, faked player? give an AI unit orders while not on their team?)
if possible, obfuscate the check code a bit and integrate it into the core functions where possible to stop tampering with it too, should help safety-wise

make it hard to read for the likes of DNSpy/dotpeek if you can do that too, force them to try tampering in IL/Assembly if you can

[neat tangle]

luckily the server does most of this for me the host has basically all control regular players non its more i could possibly make framework for cheaters to build off as for obfuscation it does work but not as good as people think adn the more in depth ones i tried and they did break mods im also working on making a system so annoying to remove thats it not worth it so i'll probably use that

[ember bolt]

idea
check your own file size, and have the checks in annoying spots to remove - if tampered, it'll crash the game

you'd have to estimate the size, compile, then get the size, compile with that and probably recompile one more time (no more than 3 compiles likely as int should be same bit size with slight edits)

annoying as hell to compile but also annoying for tamperers

[finite sinew]

Hi @neat tangle , how are you? I appreciate the mods you provided, they're a lot of fun.
I have a question about the Weapon speed.dll, can I add other weapons to this list? I wanted to change the speed of the TuskoB missile.
Thanks again.

[neat tangle]

i actually dont even have the code for that anymore as it heavily tanks fps it was one of my first attempts when i was learning i am planning to remake it for after the new 0.33 update but currently no sorry

[finite sinew]

Ah Ok, thank you again!
I'll be waiting eagerly 😁

[patent pilot]

🤤 🤤 🤤 🤤 🤤 🤤 🤤

[neat tangle]

i fear by the time im done making this the devs will have added rain

[modern osprey]

eh eh blueprinters updated

[neat tangle]

I’ll have to take a look I saw kestrel requires it now but I haven’t seen a post for blueprinter yet

I also really like learning stuff myself and blueprinter would make my life a million times easier but I make mods to learn so I’ll probably still try and add the assets myself I did actually manage to load custom assets in already they weren’t anything fancy but i still managed to add them so I’m getting there

[neat tangle]

i realise a lot of my mods lately have been things from games i played as a kid lol anyway minecraft rain

also minor performance boost and pls ignore the HUD in the top right

[sonic swift]

my first mod was bouncing rockets in quake 3, i wonder how well bouncing S3's would work

[neat tangle]

only one way to find out 🫡

[arctic shell]

yesterday I bounced a 48 off a hill and I was befuddled

it would be funny if S3s could detonate multiple times, going from target to target in their seeker cones...

[sonic swift]

Chain Lightning

[patent pilot]

tgp camera as a seperate screen like that would unironically be great

though youd have to crop out the other screens for each aircraft

[neat tangle]

Ye that was the plan I was testing a bunch of old mods too see what works and doesn’t it does actually go on a separate screen but yes the cropping was a big issue I haven’t found a reliable way too crop all the parts and also performance isn’t great lol

It originally started as a mod to put the map on a separate screen that works ok but tryna get mfd too work not so much

[patent pilot]

actually, not even seperate screen

having this in the corner would also be amazing

[neat tangle]

Mod actually supports both in game and separate os screens wasn’t intentional I just needed to see if cloning the tacscreens was possible then added os screens later so it’s entirely possible to do that

[neat tangle]

they speak now ( these are ai units btw )

[arctic shell]

this is awesome

[neat tangle]

they talk waaaay too much atm its a pure yapfest atm

[arctic shell]

better than real players then I see

so quiet in most servers

[neat tangle]

i noticed that recently multiplayer servers seem to be very quiet

i had a test mod that allowed you to tune to radio numbers so you could talk or listen into other people but im not too sure on online safety atm

[arctic shell]

i am not sure it's been a recent change tbh it's been pretty quiet online ever since I started playing online over the summer

[arctic shell]

like for voice comms?

[neat tangle]

ye

[arctic shell]

there's an existing voice comms mod, would yours possibly be unsafer for some reason?

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1333345084027965480 found it

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1467160166091722763 oh here's the new one

i searched both channels and missed the one in mod-forum

[neat tangle]

its the tune in system it uses packets and people could pottentialy send dangerous packets i think? honestly online things are like black magic hahaha

[arctic shell]

ah I see it's difficult to tell whether you're tapping into the black magic parts sometimes

sometimes it is the easiest way but one must be careful

you could take a look at how that mod does it, as it's existed for a while and has been allowed, but I have no idea how easy it would be to understand

requiring a mod for voice comms will always be too high a barrier for entry anyways

[neat tangle]

it does actually use VOIP and has a radio filter on it however the hz system is the big issue im taking a little course on network coding and watching some tutrials as i have a few mods i want to add multiplater support to like map tactical crayons id love for the host to be able to whitelist people to drawn on a shared map and have a ban system etc

[arctic shell]

multiplayer tactical crayons would be really nice sometimes! most of the time even! I bet a lot of groups would really really like that

but yeah it needs permissions settings

[neat tangle]

it does actually have a build that has multiplayer support essentially the host has to whitelist people to be able to show their drawing host can also delete anybodys drawings and regular people can hide other people drawings kind of like a mute system but theres a lot of ways around it so until i know more it will sit and gather dust sadly

ok they now dont constantly talk and added some more lines

[arctic shell]

i mean will these drawings even show without the mod? could you just have an option that shows up at round start that enables it or disables it, if people aren't sure they can trust everyone in the lobby?

[neat tangle]

next up is add reactive responses eg if someone destroys a lot of buildings or a convoy ai should react

[arctic shell]

this would be fun, the bots should hype up the player!

[neat tangle]

currently for everyone using the mod to have access to the shared map the host must have the mod installed and he must whitelist you if your not whitelisted you use the mod like normal or if you join a match and the host doesnt have it you still have it just only you see it

[arctic shell]

i see, so it isn't really peer to peer as I was thinking of it in the first place, it would be difficult to use in public servers the way I am thinking of

[neat tangle]

peer to peer is very possible and i had a squad system planned but this also relys on the packet system and again rolls to possible bad packets im sure there will be a way to secure them im gonna do the modules on friday and should give me a better idea

i could be misunderstanding packets entirely it might actually be very safe but i dont really wanna take that risk lol

[arctic shell]

this is the correct way to go about it!

we all can wait for our map scribbles

[neat tangle]

just wait till i let ai draw on the map

this is a joke i wouldnt make people suffer like that

[arctic shell]

lol I was gonna say "this is cursed BUT I want to see it"

pixelized "body parts" off the side of heartland's map, courtesy of the AI

[neat tangle]

i did think about letting mark where they went down as they could easily do that but the map would fill up very very fast lol

[arctic shell]

it could show you their plans in a bit more detail if you target them, perhaps

or where they've been, something like that

[neat tangle]

im actually cooking up an awacs mod that lets you "ask" ai what they are doing issue is i dont think they even know half the time lol

[arctic shell]

right, the AI has extremely simple routines atm so we can't really get much info out of them, it isn't there

[neat tangle]

they can tell you ammo count, fuel count, heading speed etc they do that really well but when you ask what are you doing? they give you 6 conflicting reports

"im attacking the afv in c863 with agm 48's" then hes nuking the airport?????

[arctic shell]

maybe a box on the side with everything in a more readable format? this is outside the bounds of tactical crayons

there's a good deal of hidden info too like skill and courage

[neat tangle]

oh yeah this is seperate from crayons lol

they also use a chat box or text to speech and my favourite part is you can talk to them it takes the players voice converts it too chat then looks for keywords

[arctic shell]

that's outrageous!

interesting

[neat tangle]

sadly no linux support

[arctic shell]

there's a dream, asking the local ifrit bot to be useful with my voice

instead of watching them commit suicide once again

[neat tangle]

i tried giving them commands i dont actually believe its possible lol maybe one day

they now react to friendly fire

[arctic shell]

yeah you can't even use the built-in map command system on planes at all I think

[arctic shell]

this is good lol but it'd make me so sad when I have to kill the idiots clogging the runway

make them use emoji too

: ( when they die and such

[neat tangle]

can u use emoji's in chat? they would be good for the easter eggs im gonna add

ahhhhhh

[arctic shell]

not real modern emoji but

[neat tangle]

ye good idea

[arctic shell]

you know, classic ones

[neat tangle]

that would add too the taunts tbf very well

[arctic shell]

there's a starsector mod that adds AI text chat and one of the possible personalities communicates in nothing but text emoji

one of my favorites lmao

[neat tangle]

that should make people fell bad lol

[arctic shell]

looks like this in the starsector mod lol

it's cute

[neat tangle]

i am actully adding in some rare spawns that ill have custom dialouge not a bad idea

[arctic shell]

you can see the triggers there too but I don't know how much of that is relevant or possible in NO

[neat tangle]

currently they have when they're hit, when they're killed and when they fire a missile bomb or gun

oh and taunting

and now they taunt the player

the spreadsheet wins again is my favourite

i love this

[arctic shell]

this is great, does it all go in the regular killfeed? that would get even spammier than it is already but it might be worth it if it was all clientside

[neat tangle]

its kill feed ye but its clientside so wont spam multiplayer ( i think )

it uses a local ui and no networking so i dont think it could affect multiplayer for other people just the player and for pve the killfeed is very shallow anyway so makes it more live like

also this is just a test build in furball there will be configs for the chance for them to speak aswell as cooldown

[arctic shell]

might need to add color configs for the chat it generates so that it can catch the eye, if it's more rare, as it should be

i haven't ever touched the killfeed minimum settings, so i see every single lynchpin intercepted by the HEL's, lol

[neat tangle]

it uses the HQ system i think i could make them yellow and purple by swapping the defaults

[arctic shell]

that might be sufficient!

[neat tangle]

it now has the option to choose between red and blue or yellow and purple or custom colours

i forgot the :

[neat tangle]

mmmmmm moving buttons 😩

maybe i am getting better at ui lol

[neat tangle]

video support was tuff now a nice font and update the header

[neat tangle]

i am very happy with this

[open marten]

What am i looking at

This looks peak

New menu or new menu mod?

I have a cool idea what if ally ground units could call an airstrike on the enemy and you would get that area marked the same way as nukes do but maybe different

And maybe even ask specific stuff like strafe or bombs or anything

And ask by loadout

🙏

[open marten]

RAIN?!!??

We need cockpit rain sounds now

[neat tangle]

Menu overhaul although I probably won’t release this

[neat tangle]

Air strikes are on hold till next update same with rain

[neat tangle]

JUSTJ'S Mod dev ~and requests~

JUSTJ'S Mod dev

[patent pilot]

a loop of gameplay or different shots of gameplay would be incredible here

[neat tangle]

i did wanna add that but i dont have any good screenshots or videos of NO lol

[open marten]

Yayyy thanks

[neat tangle]

web apps are confusing lol however ai is surpisingly good at helping with it much better than coding mods lol

[proper crater]

Yeah AI blows at helping with coding or even modeling.

Even simple things like Blockbench to make Minecraft models even if you have it several correctly done working examples.

Ive given multiple AI’s working examples, 3D Viewable Models as a reference that show exactly how it should look AND IT INCLUDES ANIMATIONS.

It don’t make sense considering how good AI is at so much other

[neat tangle]

They’re good at quick research and explaining but that’s about it

[neat tangle]

if anybody wants to test this feel free i forgot i was working on it until i reinstalled all my plugins for actually playing and the ai started talking lol the whole mod currently is based on the old xbox 360 / ps3 days so the ai talk and are named from that era this is by no means a mod i plan too make and maintain like GAS or LOCK SHOOT etc i just wanted to give them a voice this actually came to be from a whole different mod i was working on

[open marten]

Justj i have a question

Could you somehow make a plugin for bote mod to have liveries?

okay nevermind

for your sanity DO NOT

wait actually

you might be able to

i thought aircrafts were one piece but even aircrafts are split

you would still need to take all parts of ships and combine it like its puzzle

@neat tangle could you make a global ASSET replacer?

like models

for example joysticks, trotthle, landing gear

or textures

[neat tangle]

Neither of those are easily possible for me so no

[neat tangle]

Ok maybe I make vr then no more big projects

[modern osprey]

can you grab the stick with controllers

and the throttle

[neat tangle]

Not currently this is an extremely early build trying to actually get vr to work was a nightmare plus the devs mentioned vr is being moved up so I’m not sure if I’ll ever get to that point or if uuvr can even do that lol

[modern osprey]

alr, ill still use wasd either way

very cool

[grizzled valley]

How can I do this in my game?

[neat tangle]

This is an unfinished mod releasing soon maybe™

[grizzled valley]

Hmm... okay, I really liked the menu interfaces.

[neat tangle]

Appreciate it. It shouldn’t be too long it’s nearly done

[grizzled valley]

I'm excited for this mod.

[nocturne crystal]

Could you make a mod that adds a keybind to toggle mouse control on and off on the fly?

Or is that part of a modpack somewhere else that I haven't found yet?

[nocturne crystal]

So like, you are using the mouse as a virtual joystick but then you no longer need to anymore, then you press a key and now your mouse only controls the camera, as if the virtual joystick option in the settings is disabled

[nocturne crystal]

Wait should I have pinged them first?

[arctic shell]

They'll see it, you're good

[nocturne crystal]

Alright then, they aren't online so I wasn't gonna bother them about it anyway

[arctic shell]

Probably sleepin

I haven't heard of a feature like that anywhere so it can't hurt to ask

[neat tangle]

Like stop all mouse input and controller or hotas only?

[nocturne crystal]

No, in the setting, there is the Use Virtual Joystick setting.

I just want to be able to turn it on and off on the fly without the needs of going into the settings

[neat tangle]

I can look into it I suppose shouldn’t be too hard

[nocturne crystal]

Thank you

[open marten]

wtffff this looks amazing

i wish someone made 100 dollar cheap headsets for computer games where all you can do is look around

because phone headsets are so bad

their lenses are always bad

[neat tangle]

you can get very cheap secondhand quests or even old oculus headsets

[open marten]

Even then, i have very sensitive eyes

İ had a quest 2 but i had to sell it

For my goals

[neat tangle]

fair enough

[fathom swan]

how do I get the rain and menu UI mod?

(ping me)

[neat tangle]

sadly they arent finished yet lol menu is very nearly complete just need to finish the singleplayer and encyclopedia menus and rain im taking a lil break from as it as driving me crazy haha once ive finished the menus ill probably return too rain

[fathom swan]

broooo ive been waiting for a rain and lightning mod

bros actually top 5 humans of all time

[neat tangle]

erm lightning already exists lol

i dont like this.....

[neat tangle]

gonna rework the submenus and the settings header

Smooth

the dim glass background is a little too big but i prefer this

[fathom swan]

Wait what wdym

How

Thunderstorm just looks super foggy and ugly

[fathom swan]

You think ur UI mod is going to be integrated with qol?

[neat tangle]

theres lightning aha maybe raise the cloud height?

[neat tangle]

i havent used qol in a long long time does it change the menus?

oh actually i just realised unless they do the same system i do my menus should alays overrite

[neat tangle]

Main menu - done
Settings - done
Singleplayer - done
Encyclopedia - tomorrow
Multiplayer - I have no idea for this one as it is the most modern of all the menus possibly a reskin and add custom backgrounds?
Mission Editor - wont touch yet™

[rain shore]

so are you actually working on VR ?
here´s some other things that i found in general

here´s some updated file, that is similar to what i did in the past.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NuclearOption/comments/1riex8t/guide_how_to_get_nuclear_option_playable_in_vr/
https://github.com/FeelSoMoon/NuclearOptionVRFix/blob/main/NuclearOptionVRFix.dll

• mainly fixing cockpit rotation issue and visible HUD

I was about to add a small edit on top which should make it a lil better playable to fix the non transparent HUD objects.(though not perfect).
thing´s that would need more work then though not mandatory to just play

• better visibility of hud elements, as they are currently too transparent
• integrated tracking(without opentrack, just a thought)

[neat tangle]

Appreciate the links my current vr patch solves the rotation issues, adds all the needed menus like faction selection, spawn etc and has a dedicated recenter keybind oh and hud im currently trying to get the tracking diamond to follow the players head

[rain shore]

when disabling CameraStateManager and activating the UUVR PoseDriver with no UUVR VRCamera it does track with head

at least for a potential workaround ^^.
Dunno if you fixed the hud stuff i tried some duplicating of some elements to make them more visible

here´s what i got, and ill probably stop there. needs to be comibned with the github link dll

the script fires when entering and exiting menu once

[neat tangle]

i actually have a custom HUD mod i was working on a long time ago plan as to integrate that and basically rebuild the HUD's for VR to make it seem more authentic and maybe add suppor for NOTT

[high moth]

Nott is screwed right now, so wait on it

[rain shore]

that sounds great.

[neat tangle]

oh yeah i saw im not planning on adding it any time soon just a passing thought

[gusty flint]

Hey @neat tangle - I forgot to check this thread and it slipped my mind. Any word on this piece (Target Presets)?

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If not, no worries 🙂

[neat tangle]

It’s about halfway done all my big projects are on halt atm thow because of life stuff and the update just around the corner I’ll take a look again when I can I might be able to push a basic version

[grizzled valley]

wow

[neat tangle]

all mods still seem functional thanks to the future proofing any issues please let me know

[neat tangle]

this should be released in the next 2 days sorry for the delay life etc

[gusty flint]

Amazing thank you so much!

Gonna go down a blast with the Brawler pilots in my group 😄

[unique iris]

Oh hell yeah, this sounds amazing

[unique iris]

Wyvern is gonna love this one

[neat tangle]

its gonna be my first mod fully built for my menu framework so it'll be a nice learning experience when everyone finds all those nice bugs lol

[gusty flint]

Is it UI only or are there keyboard bindings?

[neat tangle]

its a mix of both nicer ui to make the presets and select keybinds

[neat tangle]

ok mod is very functional im very happy with it just need too clean the menu up and its ready for release

[gusty flint]

Side question @neat tangle - Are you putting up your other mods as their own pages at some point (I think I have the inertia one as well)

[neat tangle]

huh i thought i made inertia its own page ill make it one when all my weapon mods get there own pages

[open marten]

I have an idea

Sınce we have an engine keybind

İts stupid how we spawn with engines on

Can you make a mod that disables engines the second you spawn in

[neat tangle]

Should be easy

[nocturne crystal]

Oh that's a nice idea, will probably be a pain when you have to scramble though

[arctic shell]

similar to that, has a mod for making auto-tilt default to off been suggested yet? this might be one where it would be wise to have a bit of config to allow people to select which aircraft they wish to apply it to, which complicates it

[open marten]

Pressing a button on spawn? İ doubt

Justj could you fully implement the map into the cockpit mfd

Paired with nott you no longer have anything outside hud and mfd

[neat tangle]

multiple other mfd mods so i wont be touching mfd's sadly as it can cause issues and i dont want to step on toes

[open marten]

Gotta ask nott creator then

[neat tangle]

mods like these are actually incredibly easy in simple terms the game goes "oh an aircraft has spawned in do these 10 things" all i have to do is tell it to skip one of those things

[arctic shell]

yeah, I figure doing it in a universal way would be easy, but it might be important to give people control over which aircraft it affects

speaking personally I think I would prefer auto-tilt off for the ibis and tarantula, but on for the vortex and medusa

though it would be doable to get accustomed to having it default to off for the vortex and medusa

there's also the alkyon wing sweep which is approximately the same thing and people will have their own preferences there

tbh I really wish this was just a vanilla menu thing...

[neat tangle]

i did some testing with the alkyons wings control each wing etc i think i prefer auto sweep for it lol

[arctic shell]

same, touching the wing sweep is dangerous

[neat tangle]

eh who needs wings anyway

[open marten]

Idea

Make nukes blind you

Like make them SUPER bright

Like the same way real nukes would

[neat tangle]

i tried it it wasnt that great tbf more annoying than anything it did lead to a mod that EMP's aircraft thow i may make that at some point into a full mod

[muted flower]

would it be possible to make a mod which makes aircraft reserves fill up fast so a lot of enemy and friendly ai aircrafts can spawn?

either that or for ai spawns to not consume reserves

i just want my escalations and terminal controls to fill up with planes even at the start lol

[neat tangle]

You can actually edit escalation to add reserve aircraft but do remember there is an ai limit on how may aircraft can be active unless you use something like https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1472197982370922507 I could look into increasing factory production thow yes I’d just clone existing factories and re add them with changed production times or if you just wnat infinite airframes a simple mod to load a million ov everything at spawn

[muted flower]

ai aircraft limit mod is the main reason to me for such a mod, either fast production or infinite airframes is good tbh as long as the ai limit maxed out and doesnt run out of planes after a short while

[neat tangle]

you probably know this already but more ai aircraft = less framerate lol

[muted flower]

Ye i know lol

But i can prob do like 32 while still staying perfectly smooth but cant really max it out due to them dying faster than getting manufactured

[gusty flint]

@neat tangle Were you plannign to add the UI framework to NOMM as well? I know target preset is there

[neat tangle]

Target preset is on NOMM?

[gusty flint]

Yeah, but not the ui framework dependency

[neat tangle]

i think you may have installed it from file as i never made an issue to have it added it will be added soon but the ui framework needs a couple updates

[gusty flint]

Yeah I installed the framework from file originally

[rustic mist]

Hi JUSTJ, would you be interested in taking a peek at nikkorap's older Quick Comms mod? I'm not having any luck with using it but it's a neat idea, reminds me of a feature in Ace Combat 7 multiplayer
https://github.com/nikkorap/NuclearMods/tree/main/archive/QuickComms

[neat tangle]

ye sure

[rustic mist]

You're super!

[fathom swan]

wheres the rain mod at

[signal wharf]

what are dirt be gone and RWR eta mk2-beta?

[neat tangle]

Very very old mods dirt be gone removes the small dirt particles on the canopy glass and rwr eta mk2 beta is the old smart rwr

[neat tangle]

Very very unfinished currently there is a lot of maths that go into auto tilt at speed, distance layers, collision barriers etc

[neat tangle]

#1502047094934863953 message

just realised i put your @ in chat ignore this lol

[open walrus]

how do I make a custom nuke

would it be like long, or is it just changing values inside a file

[neat tangle]

depends on your experience of coding / modding and what you mean by custom you could cloan an existing nuke at runtime and altar the values like yield but theres no "make the mushroom cloud bigger setting" you would need to change a few pieces for that

there is a mod that adds bigger nukes and you can use something like dnspy to see what was changed

[open walrus]

oh cause I just wanted to make a a 1mt one

[open walrus]

yeah I used that yesterday

whats the mod called please

[neat tangle]

i cant link it because its technically against TOS as its reditributing the csharp file but you can search it on youtube and find the link

[open walrus]

the dnspy or the mod?

cause i already have dnspy

[serene jasper]

GIMME

[neat tangle]

the bigger nukes mod

[neat tangle]

not yet

[open walrus]

I found one but its outdated, no updates since 0.32.6

[serene jasper]

:(

[subtle estuary]

Can't we use static texture instead?

[neat tangle]

the particle method has been almost completely scrapped i found out i have access to an incrediblew amount of unity tools thanks to my uni so im looking into newer methods

[neat tangle]

gonna start using this thready again to keep people updated on asset stuff, as for the missile silo it currently is fully functional in terms of locking and firing on targets if it was placed into a regular game it would work fine i just need to add textures and some map icons stuff like that and mainly figure out its balance in terms of how to destroy it, currently im leaning towards augers as the main killer because as we know missile silos are very resistant to nuclear attacks and non penetrative weapons. now as for custom aircraft i have a small drone i have been working on but it is very unstable as aircraft are incredibly hard to get right so my focus currently is more defense and offense building along with props like ammo crates and loose wheels / munitions lying around to really flesh out airbases and other such places, after i am done with these i will be moving on to bombs / missiles and some guns too but i need to figure that side out. I am still updating and maintaining my other mods but for now atleast i wont be making any new ones and will be shifting my focus to asset creation just to re iterate GAS, smart rwr, lock tone and all my other currently updated mods will still recieve new features and updates there just wont be any new big mods. a lot of people have sent dm's asking about requests as i took them pre 0.33 yes i will take requests but due to the nature of making assets i wont be as willing to make everything only things that fit a theme and are reasonable for example someone asked for smoke rockets these i would consider however asking for something like the death star is gonna be a no please feel free to dm me but any questions on development will be redirected here thank you for reading to the end

holy yapfest 😭 i did not realise it was that long

JUSTJ'S Mod dev / requests

[neat tangle]

silo will be undergoing a dramatic re design now i understand how materials work and because im better at blender now lol

[fathom swan]

is the rain mod still not out yet??

[neat tangle]

im looking into new ways as the original particle system was very buggy and caused huge fps drops at certain points

[fathom swan]

ah alright

do you know when youll release it?

[neat tangle]

next couple days hopefully i can probably take a quick look im just not sure exactly what issue is causing it as i havent checked

[opaque oasis]

Can you please make a mod to show IAS instead of TAS

And also a bigger gun pipper

[neat tangle]

#1466478023879688213 message sorry requests are for new assets and new features for my current mods i do believe i've seen bigger pip somewhere thow

[opaque oasis]

Oh, can I repost there, then?

[neat tangle]

how do you mean?

[opaque oasis]

As in, put my request there and not here

[neat tangle]

im really tired so i may not be understanding do you mean the link i sent?

[opaque oasis]

Yeah

In that thread

[neat tangle]

thats just a link from this thread explaining the requests lol

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1503064768725123152 you would want this

[opaque oasis]

Oh lol

Ah

Yeah thanks

I'm a dumbass

[neat tangle]

have you checked qol and nott?

they usually do stuff like this

[opaque oasis]

No, because QOL adds so much shit that is not really QOL focused and NOTT keeps breaking aircraft mods

[neat tangle]

ah fair enough

[opaque oasis]

When I say QOL I want QOL and not 69420 new missiles and weapons and shit

[neat tangle]

ye they should really change the name lol or release the weapons seperate to the changes

[opaque oasis]

Mmhmm

Anyway ty

[neat tangle]

np if i remember the mod i'll @ you but it was a while ago lol

[neat tangle]

silo re model / texturing is done i decided on an old soviet style - targeting logic is all plugged in and ready to go - still need to finish little bits like descriptions and the reload logic

concrete pad with a green and red launch door

[warm geode]

silo

[rustic mist]

The Day After!

[neat tangle]

i have been given permission to post the mod it will start purely with the silos a regualr piledriver and nuclear variant and will be expanded from there next things im adding is props like barber wire, loose ammo and some other military style stuff

just need to add the kill reward stuff and they are ready

[obtuse moss]

Poke...

Im wondering if anyone's created a dedicated mod sub-menu for toggling mod state?

Similar to Rimworld and Starsector

[neat tangle]

like an on and off switch? NOMM is the best bet if thats the case

[obtuse moss]

Ah cool!

yeah i was looking for that

Cheers

[neat tangle]

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1467341462227124305

[sweet widget]

Mod to be able to steer the Jet/Heli with the Mouse(Virtual Joystick), instead like it is now working just as Free-cam

[neat tangle]

you can toggle virtual joystick in the vanilla game

[sweet widget]

But i cant pilot in 3rd person with the mouse

[neat tangle]

really? ill take a look first time someones mentioned this lol

[finite drift]

@neat tangle just a mod suggestion for you. Would it be possible to make a War Thunder style camera? Because the vanilla orbit camera height is directly in line with engine exhaust, so I think it would be good if the camera height was increased and it would be looking down a bit. I would love to pair it with the 3rd person HUD mode and CursorPilot mod

[neat tangle]

camera elevation? i could take a look

[finite drift]

Yes, so it would look like the camera in WT or Battlefield

I guess it would be a fairly simple mod to do

[neat tangle]

famous last words lol