Long Range Powerful Radar Missile for the SFB-81 Darkreach | Nuclear Option | Page 1

sage snow Jan 3, 2025, 1:14 AM

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The F in the name stands for Fighter, but it has no ~~conventional~~ air to air munitions. A way to fix that, while not making it a fighter, would be to add a big, fast, powerful, yet clunky Radar guided Air to Air missile akin to the Aim-54/174 usable against all planes but more effective against larger or slower aircraft like bombers and transports. The outer bays could fit 2-3 each (because I don't know how large an Aim-54 or Aim-174 would be compared to other munitions), and the inner bays would carry 4-6 depending on size.

The more powerful radar would require a notch of 4-5 seconds with a jammer to balance the fact that you'll see this missile coming from lightyears away if used properly (the missiles won't lock and track properly under 10-12km)

This new A-A missile would help Darkreach players more effectively defend themselves against enemy threats (Yes, teamwork exists, but who actually does that in an average game?) and would bring the Fighter essence of the airframe back into light, if only in a standoff role.

I am aware that there has been a post about this before, however, it was inconclusive and didn't outline a particular things to add (discussion about giving a bomber sub-sonic light IR missiles)

molten fossil Jan 3, 2025, 1:24 AM

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Wdym it won’t track or lock under 12km, or do you mean if notched. Cause if it’s the second one you could’ve just said it has 10-12km radar, and otherwise notching would’ve worked the entire time if it’s a fox 1. If it’s the first one, this would be kinda useless.

rapid spear Jan 3, 2025, 1:25 AM

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it could be useful at long ranges, especially since the upcoming naval map is enormous

molten fossil Jan 3, 2025, 1:29 AM

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I wonder, have stratolances ever killed you outside of high altitude bombing

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It’s got the same problem as this, which is that playing optimally you are almost always hugging the ground or ocean, so long range missiles are kinda not worth it.

Also, this has to have a lot of fuel if the NEZ is to be >12km, other wise it’s very easy to defeat even without notching, as if the NEZ is <12km then you can’t utilize it.

willow falcon Jan 3, 2025, 1:55 AM

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What if it was the remarkably rare datalink/INS with terminal IR guidance? The missile would be immediately recognizable from the missile warning, which would work well with a highly flare-resistant missile that’s relatively easy to outpull, but the Darkreach and Tarantula with low maneuverability wouldn’t just die with no counterplay because of their outstanding IR signatures and flare counts.

zenith stirrup Jan 3, 2025, 2:34 AM

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it could comfortably fit 6/ outer bay i think, if this is a similar size to the AGM-68

blissful zenith Jan 3, 2025, 2:54 AM

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Just give it a StratoLance SARH

sage snow Jan 3, 2025, 3:02 PM

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molten fossil It’s got the same problem as this, which is that playing optimally you are almos...

The main goal of the missile is to strike high flying bombers and support aircraft. It's secondary role is to deny the area to other aircraft at range. Make no mistake, the missile would still hurt a lot if it was fired within the 10-12 km range, it just wouldn't track as well

dry hazel Jan 3, 2025, 4:58 PM

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In theory, such a missile could be powered by a ramjet engine, like the MBDA Meteor. Perhaps such a weapon could be carried by a new interceptor aircraft, whose primary mission is to gain air superiority at high altitudes.