Why not?
#Torpedoes for Ifrit and Darkreach
earnest gulch
shrewd zodiac
because missiles are better
earnest gulch
because missiles are better
they can be shot down
shrewd zodiac
torps can as well
shrewd zodiac
torps can as well
and they have a much lower range
shrewd zodiac
they have a range about 20-15 km
very low in comparison to cruise missiles, which are the weapon of choice against ships
and we are getting the ASHM-300 for aircraft soon
earnest gulch
but it is much easier to deliver torpedoes on ifrit than deliver cruise missiles on a darkreach
shrewd zodiac
but it is much easier to deliver torpedoes on ifrit than deliver cruise missiles...
well the ifrit could carry them as well
and AGM-68 on the ifrit are a very good choice as well
earnest gulch
but what will you do if there is 4 shard class corvette?
they will shoot every AGM-68 down on there way
real kiln
spice rover
because missiles are better
ASROCs are better for subs because they can be standoff. e.g. the silex missile from the soviets
shrewd zodiac
ASROCs are better for subs because they can be standoff. e.g. the silex missile ...
well asroc is meant to be carried on ships
shrewd zodiac
but what will you do if there is 4 shard class corvette?
then i will climb to 15+km altitude and release 12 pab80lr from straight above
spice rover
well asroc is meant to be carried on ships
I'm aware, but maybe an air launched adaptation of Asroc could be better
shrewd zodiac
I'm aware, but maybe an air launched adaptation of Asroc could be better
well only if we get subs, which we are very unlikely to
real kiln
Yeah subs seem to be a no-go
waxen tree
Subs are really only cool and fun when a game is specifically designed to incorporate them. Otherwise they are very hard to make engaging.
real kiln
Exactly what Mitch has said of the topic in recent past
ivory bison
but it is much easier to deliver torpedoes on ifrit than deliver cruise missiles...
Making Darkreach even less useful that its right now isn´t exactly appealing. So I´d say no to more stuff on the Ifrit. Not sure torpedoes being useful on Darkreach having already cruisers / AGMs.
void hamlet
The only platform where it would make sense to have torpedoes in-setting would be the Medusa Imo, and they would be ASROCs, so anti sub warfare, not anti ship. When was the last time anyone used air dropped anti ship torpedoes after WW2 ?
Sorry forgot ASROCs are more the VLS kind of ordinance. Well I meant to say whatever those mini anti sub airdropped torpedoes are. The ones where you need two to sink a sub in Cold Waters
trail grove
yea torpedoes are just not used for anti ship warfare any more, nuclear option is unfortunately not the right place for them
muted hazel
The only platform where it would make sense to have torpedoes in-setting would b...
i mean ok ASW helicopters often carry torpedoes but your point still stands
void hamlet
i mean ok ASW helicopters often carry torpedoes but your point still stands
They're for subs
jovial crypt
they have a range about 20-15 km
Air-dropped are 15 km max, usually less
Also pitiful warheads
jovial crypt
yea torpedoes are just not used for anti ship warfare any more, nuclear option i...
*air-dropped and surface ship launched
Subs still do use them because you can get like 40-60 km range
muted hazel
They're for subs
yeah
hence asw
rose jasper
Subs are really only cool and fun when a game is specifically designed to incorp...
People said logistics would be boring yet it isnt
I would personally enjoy ASW, even if time consuming.
fierce mantle
ASW would add more depth,and as always it could be optional.Not every mission needs to have submarines involved,and there are many types of submarines,from the smallest coastal types to large SBNNs.Thats besides the point,torps would be nice,but unless we get submarines it'd be best if we got an AShM
vocal geode
One thing you all seem to be forgetting is that torpedoes don't generally like hitting the water at high speeds, so they need to be dropped from slow moving aircraft and/or use a chute to slow down. Air-deployed torpedoes are usually only effective against subs anyway, surface vessels generally will shoot down the launch platform before it gets within range to employ torpedoes. Torpedoes are only really effective against surface ships if employed from submarines, which don't have to worry about air defenses and have a much better chance of sneaking up to a good firing position.
fierce mantle
ehhh,you can fire a torpedo at a high speed and with relatively minimal altitude requirements (100m or so) and a drag chute will be able of slowing down the torpedo before it hits the water.Not to mention that while a ship might be able of shooting down a launching platform if it deploys a torpedo,this doesn't account for the range of the actual torpedo,which by the 2070s could be quite vast
sullen egret
but what will you do if there is 4 shard class corvette?
step 1, dusa
rose jasper
Step 2, Ifrit
obtuse wedge
Step 3: bomb a chicane (required)
fierce mantle
Step 3: bomb a chicane (required)
Torpedo a chicane (No explosion,it just skewers the vehicle like a harpoon)
silver chasm
Air dropped naval drones would be an interesting idea; and basically just be a really stealthy surface/sub-surface anti ship missile.
They've certainly come into prominence with their recent use against in the Black Sea indicating that they may very well be capable of being used to devastating effect in places where AShMs could not reach.
And that aside; it's a fun and interesting weapon.
Near future tech means that any limitations that one sees for present day torpedoes can just be waved away; and such torpedoes/drones can be made as effective, and given such capabilities, as needed to make them interesting.
shrewd zodiac
And that aside; it's a fun and interesting weapon.
Near future tech means that ...
near future tech also means that defenses against torpedoes (anti submarine rockets) will become more sophisticated though
silver chasm
near future tech also means that defenses against torpedoes (anti submarine rock...
Yeah, which cam then be countered by making them stealthier.
As I said; it's an interesting weapon, and that IMO is reason enough that it should be added in.
shrewd zodiac
imho its not worth the effort do design whole underwater systems, when we already have a bunch of interesting stuff in the air. torpedoes are fine by themselves, but i dont think they fit into nuclear option when we already have so many other methods to kill ships
silver chasm
imho its not worth the effort do design whole underwater systems, when we alread...
It doesn't exactly need an underwater system per se.
Just needs to travel at or near the surface and be stealthy.
sullen egret
It doesn't exactly need an underwater system per se.
Just needs to travel at or...
drone boat time
rose jasper
The seahawk can launch guided torps if i remember
pulsar sphinx
Hear me out:
Nuclear Torpedos exist IRL...
It's just a nuke missile that skims at -1 altitude.
leaden belfry
drone boat time
YES YES YES. Torps? Not bad. Drone kamikadze boat? Insane speed for it(200-400km/h)? YES. New? YES effective? IDK, but should be good
real kiln
Submarines?
No submarines on the way
shrewd zodiac
yep, subs have been oficailly denied
lusty hull
yep, subs have been oficailly denied
dang wanted to see one in game
shrewd zodiac
dang wanted to see one in game
#general message
void hamlet
dang wanted to see one in game
wooden spoke
I've said it before, i'll say it again. Supercavitating Torpedoes. Both the US and Russia have researched them. Take the VA-111 Shkval for example. 200 mph underwater.
muted hazel
goddamn you guys still posting in here
lament cloud
This would be fun
brazen flare
The only platform where it would make sense to have torpedoes in-setting would b...
Some smaller torpedos for the Cricket would be good... plus perhaps also sonobouys to drop to find submarines. (They should add submarines.)
flint salmon