Infrared guided missile overall ideas

[forest drum]

Here they are :
Ir missiles should have a mounted helmet locking system like most jets do have today,

It could just look like the chicanes gun cross.

It would work with tones :
If slaved by radar
-tone for target too far
-tone for target in range but not optimal
-tone for target in optimal ranges

If not and helmet locked just play tone 2-3

How the helmet lock works :
Irl aircraft such as the f-16c f-35 and more can lock targets by simply looking in their directions, this is something I would like to be able to do for a "stealthier" gameplay launching ir missile without the radar ping bar being shown

As such only the missile alarm would play and not show my info on radar

It would also allow us to know if a hob shot would be possible at certain angles during dogfights

Infrared guided missile overall ideas

[blissful oxide]

this is a direct nerf to the current system

[forest drum]

Is it ? As you could still slave them with radar Wich would work the same way as normal current ir missiles

Just them being able to be launched while looking at someone without needing a radar lock would be nice

[blissful oxide]

you just need to press lock, then you can fire on them. its not a radar lock btw, its a datalink lock, since every sensor on your team feeds into your targeting system

[forest drum]

Wouldn't you think that being able to launch a missile without having the enemy knowing where I am if I play my cards right useful ?

[blissful oxide]

you dont need your radar on to lock stuff

[forest drum]

No I mean like instead of having to lock the enemy before firing I could just fire the missile while looking at them having the pros of not showing the enemy the orange radar ping

[blissful oxide]

they dont get that from locks

orange lines only come from radar hitting you

[forest drum]

Interesting but wouldn't it allow for stealthier gameplay ?

In any cases ir missiles should not require a lock datalink or radar to track since they're heat guided

[blissful oxide]

it would not allow for stealthier gameplay, the enemy doesnt know if you lock something

you also have an optical sensor that scans around the aircraft, detecting anything within a certian range

[forest drum]

So whatever happens stealth is out of the question for fox-2 ranges

But helmet locks also are a bad idea ? Explain

[blissful oxide]

you already have helmet locks

[forest drum]

I know I'm asking for an actual visual of helmet lock for ir's missiles
Maybe just putting a circle that turns green when I'm range if I'm looking at an enemy it's ir missile locking not helmet radar locks

[dense kindle]

I mean you can fire IR missiles at missiles from just about any distance and they track, which indicates partial datalink guidance as the seeker is unlikely to see that far.

[kindred token]

You have some misconceptions. If you turn off your radar even id you have the target selected they do not get an orange ping.
Also DL track is not broken until the enemy leaves all DL sources detection areas. So for most planes 10km line of sight is DAS range, which is about IR range anyway. Your system has no advantages. You can just instead press lock when you look at them which allows you to fire multiple IR missiles no matter how the enemy moves as long as they stay on DL/LOS

[forest drum]

That's interesting never knew this

[obtuse blade]

It's fine as is to me.

[pliant crest]

yea I don't think this idea is right for the game;
altho I do like the idea of some sort of sound cue when in range for a shot

[winter cypress]

Would be a fun feature but overly advantage players using head tracking