Game Night Series

[short yew]

With the hand system in place, it would also make sense to need to have a slammer equipped in your hand in order to "Slam"

What I roughed out just sends the Pogs to a random coordinate after getting slammed, maybe something less random might be better? Like something semi-random based off the origin point of the stack?

[honest tinsel]

Yeah something like a trajectory + rng

EHE does this for fliers

So it looks like the stack fell

Added the areas to distributions you mentioned

I left out some that didn't fit the theme tbh

["ClassroomDesk"] = { generalChance = 3, }, ["BedroomDresser"] = { generalChance = 6, }, ["ClassroomMisc"] = { generalChance = 3, }, ["SchoolLockers"] = { generalChance = 5, }, ["OfficeDeskHome"] = { generalChance = 0.25, },

Need to see how packed it is

[short yew]

Yeah, that's fine lol. Making offices more interesting to loot is just a personal bias of mine since my map has a ton of offices and right now all they offer is pens and paper

[short yew]

I have a test building with different room defs. It's mainly stores right now, but I'll update it to include bedrooms, classrooms and stuff

[honest tinsel]

The community tools has an empty map for quick loading, adding another one with a building with different defs would be neat

[short yew]

Updated my test map with the game night room defs for testing. It's the big building to the right when you spawn onto the island. The second floor has bedrooms, classrooms, livingrooms
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3145312970

I'll make a more proper test building later, but this should be okay for now

[honest tinsel]

Do you think the starterkit should be consumed when you open it?

[short yew]

Might do a compact island with my PEI buildings to better simulate actual game play. Not sure if everything being in one big building affects how items are spawned

[short yew]

Like if you keep the box?

[honest tinsel]

Yeah

booster gets consumed

[short yew]

They are basically a big booster so would make sense if they are consumed too

Decks are already convenient to carry around. I don't think players would care to put decks into a container (unless condition is simulated lmao don't do this)

[honest tinsel]

Boosters and starter kits seem good

Had to get creative to work around the fact recipe code is in server

function Recipe.GameNight.OpenBoosterMTG(items, result, player) result:getModData()["gameNight_specialOnCardApplyBoosters"] = 1 end

Basically if the modData is there it sets the deck differently

also the default item just spawns as 1 card

figured that could be useful

[short yew]

Just so we're on the same page:
Boosters and starters pull from the rarity tables and are specific to a set (ex. Alpha). So each future expansion would have their own boosters and starters that pull from their own rarity tables.
And pre-made decks are pulled from the entire catalogue? So future expansions that add cards to the catalogue will have their cards automatically included in the pre-made decks found around the world

Is this how you see it too?

[honest tinsel]

Yes

The catalogue has to include all cards for the mechanics to work

so future expansions would be a matter of adding more cards to it

booster logic can also be changed to do different things on apply

like use cards from certain pools

[short yew]

Awesome

I actually went ahead and got started on the expansions that came out shortly after Alpha just so there's a template for others to see how to add expansions themselves later on. It's just the card image assets for now. If the process is as simple as inserting into a table, I think it would encourage others to consider making their own expansions

https://github.com/oppolla/game-night-magic-the-gathering-classic-expansions
could also double as the tutorial as well

[honest tinsel]

If you make that file a .MD you can make it look pretty + show up at the bottom of that page

and I was thinking of making one for the gamenight github lol

Now that we have examine maybe the tarrot cards could do with some shrinking? 😮

Zener cards are scuffed - I need to remove the excess size

Also the card piles feel too thick

[short yew]

Yeah, Occult needs some tweaks with the newly added features

You can scale the stacks visually to the thickness of a deck of playing cards. That feels like a good standard

[honest tinsel]

Tweaked it a bit

The slammers got a bit of a bump in height but that's also like 200 of them

168*

[cinder tide]

looks great

[honest tinsel]

Final to-do:
[ ] Pogs Slamming.
[ ] Make stackable pieces drag to stack like cards do.
[ ] Figure out MTG distributions/deck stuff.

Keep polishing stuff

Also tempted to make the cards have rounded edges

But not sure it's work it

Not sure about it

hmmmm

got another dumb idea

nah, doesn't seem feasible lol

Wanted to see if I could grab the tile's sprite

[short yew]

lol that'd be too weird I think. Gotta de-isometric it and all that

Also seeing the room is important for situational awareness 😄

[honest tinsel]

Yeah, made it more transparent

trying to find a balance

[short yew]

I like the current clear actually. Never had issues with visibility

And it lets you see zombies sneaking up on you

[long crescent]

or people-flippers - in case a table's missing.

[honest tinsel]

The pokerchips turned out insanely nice lol

Same code as the pogs cylinder, but it's coloring each segment white or the chip's color

[short yew]

Programmic art

[honest tinsel]

Yep lol

Someone asked if i'm going to add lootboxes

4 swamp tho

[long crescent]

You forgot the microtransactions in this one

[honest tinsel]

I'll feed them hashcodes

they send me $5 on paypal

[cinder tide]

zomboid battle pass

[cinder tide]

looking more and more like tts every day 🙂

[long crescent]

"This battle pass contains unique card-backs to choose from."

[honest tinsel]

Final to-do:
[ ] Pogs Slamming.
[x] Make stackable pieces drag to stack like cards do.
[ ] Figure out MTG distributions/deck stuff.

[honest tinsel]

My little assistant

[honest tinsel]

Made a first draft of the deck builder

I didn't think of a way to implement duo-land cards

But duo colors in general are good

[short yew]

Yeah, I don't think those cards can really be included in any pre-built deck system. It'd make them booster exclusive which could be cool too

Might make sense to turn that category in a more general miscellaneous table

[honest tinsel]

Running into issues with getting it to fire

May have complicated the table juggling lol

Figured it out

alot of rng going on

May need to cut down on the chances of duo color decks?

2 black red decks, green, black, and red white

I think I see the issue

I gave single-colors a weight of 4, duo a weight of 1 -- supposed to be 25%

but there's 5 singles, and 10 duos

So if I'm mathing right - the overall chance of a duo is 33%

How common was it to run a duo deck?

made the weight 8 : 1, mono : duo

makes the pool 40 : 10

or 1/5

Final to-do:
[ ] Pogs Slamming.
[x] Make stackable pieces drag to stack like cards do.
[x] Figure out MTG distributions~~/deck stuff.~~

[short yew]

duo is the most common I'd say

[honest tinsel]

Oh?

[short yew]

I don't know about back then, but it's the default most people would agree

[honest tinsel]

Should I reverse the weights?

[short yew]

Yeah that makes a lot of sense

[honest tinsel]

Would tricolors be even more common?

[short yew]

That might be too finnicky to work generated I'm guessing

Could do like random deck

[honest tinsel]

Not at all actually, since they were listed in the comments I made it scalable

[short yew]

In terms of being playable in MTG

[honest tinsel]

Ah

So maybe make tricolor a weight of 1, mono 4, duo 8?

[short yew]

That looks good to me

So you added the tri color decks? 😆

[honest tinsel]

I made a deck builder

All it does it rngs between the colors

Mono has only the one choice

Duo is about 50/50

Can add quad lol

[short yew]

Gotcha

Tri is pretty close to feeling random as it is lol

[honest tinsel]

The hassle was making a rarity table, rather than type it up, it's built when the catalogue is assembled

[honest tinsel]

This is the output test to see it if was working

[short yew]

So rarity is a factor in the deck building?

[honest tinsel]

Yeah

The weight of rarity is applied when applicable

[short yew]

Oh cool, was never even something I considered

[honest tinsel]

Artifacts are only weighing uncommon and common

Sorry rare and uncommon

My thinking was to get close to what a booster pack would have provided

[short yew]

That kinda solves one of the worries I had which was rares not being rare

There's also the "Black Lotus" card which is pretty mystical

even thought about giving it it's own special pool

But this rarity should keep it rare

[honest tinsel]

Indeed

Can also mess with the weight of it

I used a general weighted probability function

So it's all easily tweakable

If one wanted to make rares in the world a bit more rare

Encourage people to find boosters

Anyway, I'll mess around with Tris tomorrow

Or well, in the morning 😅

[honest tinsel]

Included trios at the ratios mentioned

spawned 10 decks, 1 trio, 2 mono, and 7 duo

Made a unit test of sorts

cards, +artifacts, +lands, +other (total) (rare, uncommon, common)

That one deck got 9 rares

it's a mono white deck

I assume that factors in

blue/black 0 rares oof

Hate that indents in notepad are weird

Had to keep editing monos lol

Tested loot distro 😅

every child brought a board game to school

hmmm

[short yew]

Wow, didn't realize last night how comprehensive the deck builder is 🤯

The spreads look good to me. There's no marking on the cards to indicate rarity so for most people, the differences won't even be evident

[honest tinsel]

😄

Adding trios was as easy as adding them to the table too

[cinder tide]

Chuck never half asses anything 💯

[honest tinsel]

Doesn't pay to not plan a head lol

[honest tinsel]

Final to-do:
[ ] Pogs Slamming.
[ ] Pogs Distribution.
[x] Make stackable pieces drag to stack like cards do.
[x] ~~Figure out MTG distributions/deck stuff. ~~

Might toss all of the gamenight mods into one bundle for BETA testing

[short yew]

So you're going to be... packing... the mods? 🤔 😂

[short yew]

Pogs might as well use the deck building system too. Much simpler though. 1-5 slammers, 8-40 Pogs. Something like that

[honest tinsel]

I have become what I despise most

<@&1200064705109168258> Game Night BETA MEGA BUNDLE is live on #1214614856762794064

[short yew]

Cool, I'll pop in later to test!

[honest tinsel]

I'll work on Pogs a bit later

Gotta busy weekend

But testing out the mechanics should help avoid significant bugs

[formal kite]

shark and cytt's kentucky car overhaul keeps giving me update required

i've uninstalled it and reinstalled it, just aint workin

@honest tinsel any idea for a fix?

[honest tinsel]

What does it say exactly?

Also just rebooted to remove inventory Tetris

[cinder tide]

Game Night: Pro Edition

[honest tinsel]

great mod, but man trying to do admin stuff with it on was a pain lol

[formal kite]

i've installed it beforehand, uninstalled it, reinstalled it, just a bit peculiar

[honest tinsel]

That's a zomboid thing tbh

The workshop has been lagging today too

[meager mica]

It must be my fault. I unsubbed from 493 mods so I can help test lmao.

[honest tinsel]

Game night didn't launch for some reason hmm

Restarting, with a lot less mods too

[formal kite]

o7

still not working :(

[honest tinsel]

Dumped some games on the floor

gotta go to an event

The bar is locked up

[formal kite]

oh i found out the issue

for some reason my C drive was full

ruh roh

[honest tinsel]

I don't think I even have that mod installed

[honest tinsel]

Also, I appreciate the effort and time

Sorry been running around

[cinder tide]

did you manually move around motorious zone?
that mod isnt even on the server

[formal kite]

i just uninstalled it and relogged

[honest tinsel]

Fixed the search thing, talking it out helped clicked what was going on

Also fixed the typo in booster packs

May need to make a model for it though - using the monopoly money rn doesn't work lol

Too thin

[short yew]

Testing it out rn

We should find a time where we can get a few players on at the same time to do a MTG test run

[honest tinsel]

I am a bit strapped for time this month and next

Will be out of the country in 2 weeks for a week

[short yew]

Whenever you have time again is good. If the server is up, or the beta mod is hosted somewhere else, just having players on testing should give good info on playability

It's already playable as is, that was more for refinement

[honest tinsel]

Yeah

For sure, just want to make sure I didn't break anything with the new changes

The networking issue is still a problem

Not sure if I can resolve that

[short yew]

Certain things just have to be lived with while we're in B41

[honest tinsel]

Yeah unfortunately

Looking to see if the cooldown issue was fixed

Sometimes pieces would be stuck in use

I changed it a while back

[short yew]

I think players can live with a little bit of jank

[honest tinsel]

Yeah, as long as stuff isn't vanishing it's w.e.

Unfortunately it's pretty easy to abuse stuff to duplicate it

[short yew]

Made some notes on UI stuff after testing a bit, no rush on tweaks. Whenever you can get around to it:

• Consistent inspect window location for hands, search, and play area (top-right off the main UI). Like a global location rather than tied to the specific UI window.
• Add option to draw direct from deck into the primary slot (hand)
• Draw 7 into hand. This is important for start of game.
• Tap card hotkey

[honest tinsel]

Draw 7 for MTG?

[short yew]

Duping is always an issue, but servers can just go with honour system

[honest tinsel]

I need a way to change aspects of cards in an easier way

I've been putting off merging cards and game pieces lol

[short yew]

Yeah at game start there is a whole process where players draw 7 cards into their hand. And if they don't like it, they can "mulligan" the cads, which puts them back into the deck and they draw another 7 cards

[honest tinsel]

I can add a draw 7 to MTG and Uno

[short yew]

So right now, if a player mulligans 4 times, it's a really slow process

[honest tinsel]

I'll need to figure out an easy way to replace quick actions

Make it tap rather than flip

Although right click tap isn't that bad

[short yew]

It works, more of a QOL thing in late game when you might have 10 lands you have to tap

[honest tinsel]

Also drawing to hand was something I meant to look into

[short yew]

Yeah it's pretty important. Was kinda disorienting when it ended up in inventory lol

But doing to intermediate step of placing it on the board first works for the time being

[honest tinsel]

😅 As it turns out I planned ahead, and made it so if you set a special for shift actions it will automatically use that one over flip

Glad I'm so smart 🧠

[short yew]

Let me know when it's updated on the server and I can pop in to try it out

[honest tinsel]

Updated

[honest tinsel]

Last stop for MTG/TCG is probably the cards to hand when drawn

and for Pogs is slamming / maybe some way to "stack all" - but it's pretty easy to stack them, and could be immersive to have to re-stack

Oh and the pog distro + packs, or however they come in

[cinder tide]

Alright next up garbage pail kids

[short yew]

Internet was really bad where I was last night so couldn’t connect. Gonna check it out this evening

[short yew]

Agree, I think manually stacking them feels more true and immersive

[short yew]

Pogs and MTG got big around the same time with the same kids so makes sense for it to have to same distro as MTG. Maybe something like a randomly generated deck of slammers and regular Pogs. ~2-5 slammers, and ~10-30 Pogs?

[honest tinsel]

It's not on the hosted version yet, but I got drawing cards to go into hand working

There's still issues with drawing more than 1 card - turns out what I had sitting there didn't work

There's a few mechanics I set up before needing them 😅

[short yew]

Maybe this is the universes' way of balancing out the shift action change being simpler than expected 😬 😅

[honest tinsel]

Got it working, and made a guide MD + added your art asset guide. @short yew

https://github.com/Chuckleberry-Finn/game-night

[honest tinsel]

MTG is ready, I think?

Now I have to figure out when the best time to publish it is

If such a time exists / matters

[short yew]

Documentation is really good! Should really help people get started making their own

I finally understand some things 😂

[short yew]

Workshop has more traffic weekends than midweek, but I don't think it really matters too much what day something gets released

Time of day might be more important if anything

[cinder tide]

Honestly the way most recent tab goes it’s almost better to upload during downtime that way you’re not flooded out by true music uploads lol

Awesome stuff this has turned out great

[honest tinsel]

Probably doesn't matter when it gets uploaded - can try to put feelers out to some of the servers

I wonder if the SteamWatch update ever went out

[short yew]

You free later today to hop onto the test server to try a proper game of mtg?

[cinder tide]

Let me know I’ll be on later tonight

[honest tinsel]

Is there a generic pogs booster pack?

Also slammers and pogs can't stack together

or should they? I thought they were different sizes

[wild jasper]

They're enough of the same size I think they could stack together.

[honest tinsel]

Are they used together in a stack during gameplay?

I thought you'd generally only need 1 slammer

I can make the booster pack spawn 2 different types of items

I'm just thinking what happens if you keep opening packs and keep getting 1 slammer and a few pogs

Or maybe make it so you can only find slammers in schools and such and not packs?

Maybe I could also make packs for each series

[short yew]

Not normally, but there really shouldn't be a reason why you couldn't either. At my school, what ended up happening was people only playing with slammers because there were so many paper Pogs floating around it wasn't worth playing for. Sorta like schoolyard inflation lol

[short yew]

Not sure retail packs would add much to Pogs. I don't think there was any rarity or anything like that so they'd just be a random pack of 1 slammer and some number of paper Pogs

And if they exists side-by-side with the found collections, they'd just be a smaller version of that

[honest tinsel]

So packs aren't worth adding you think?

[short yew]

I don't think so. They don't really add anything to the Pog experience imo lol

[honest tinsel]

I think I set up the distribution for pogs

On detail application pogs can spawn a slammer

[cinder tide]

@short yew hmu whenever

[honest tinsel]

Fixed up the old slam action

testing now

Might be able to toss on an update for you guys to test

[short yew]

I'll be free in about an hour if that'

s good with you

[cinder tide]

sounds good

[short yew]

Gonna hop on now

Stuck on the install screen

[honest tinsel]

I hate that bug

where the loading UI goes away and it leaves you on the title but no menu?

[short yew]

I'm on the install mods screen. It says everything is installed but it's not leaving that screen

It does say Workshop Item is different than on server up top

But I'm currently unsubbed to all Game Night stuff

[cinder tide]

same in a few

[short yew]

Let me know if you can get in. I'm still stuck

[cinder tide]

ok im joining now

usually reconnect fixes that bug iirc (stuck at mods screen)

im on the install screen now, i recently reinstalled windows so redownloading all these mods

GAME NIGHT: DELUXE

[short yew]

Any other solutions for the mod screen issue?

[cinder tide]

did it stop loading for you after a specific mod?

cuz i think mine just got stuck too

Fail ID=3213456026.

[short yew]

It installed all the mods. And then nothing happens after

[cinder tide]

check ur console log lmk

did another mod really get pulled tonight whats going on

that must be game night mega id

[short yew]

Deja Vu lmao

[cinder tide]

sec, lets break out my trusty

batch script to fix this shit

i need to clean these up and release them

[short yew]

Will try that

[cinder tide]

still getting stuck i think, server might need rebooot or acf files deleted

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-computer-smash-gif-22104112

[short yew]

It's always the monitor's fault

Guess try again another time

[cinder tide]

@honest tinsel might need to reboot server

still getting fail id after remove/resub

yeah, removed my acf and still getting game night fail ID

server needs to be poked

[honest tinsel]

Yeah, I'll do it in like 5 minutes

[cinder tide]

no rush man

[honest tinsel]

Dropped off the wife

[cinder tide]

an error as old as time itself

if you can think of it, can you shoot me the server logs? Im curious to see if it shows us trying to connect with fail ids as well, or if thats only in console file

[cinder tide]

can't even tell. just shows connect and disconnect

[honest tinsel]

🤷‍♂️

I guess Udderly sends the info to the host

Trying to get slamming to work right

[cinder tide]

think I can push the envelope with a game that was released in 1994? or too far past lore dates
first edition was released in 1983

[short yew]

For the MTG expansions I went to 1995 lol

[cinder tide]

people probably won't be able to tell, they'll just think "oh yeah that looks vintage"

[short yew]

Only issue is the super obvious (c) 1994 on it but they'll forgive

Are you still thinking about doing Talisman?

[cinder tide]

yeah thats what I was referring to hah

Ive only played revised 4th personally, but 3rd came out in 94

[short yew]

When you mentioned it before, I did some searching and got most 2nd edition assets

But I've never played the game so it doesn't make sense to me

[short yew]

You can prob find a TTS workshop item that has high res scans

[cinder tide]

last tiem i checked they only had 4th :c

[short yew]

Yeah most were 4th but I found a nice 2nd edition one

What's the difference?

[cinder tide]

wonder if its the same as the one from talisman island

[short yew]

Also had some space expansions and stuff

[cinder tide]

art and some gameplay but the games been the same mostly

[short yew]

I can send the art assets I got your way if you want to see if it's workable

[cinder tide]

there's a city expansion n other stuff for 4th its dope

game hangs hard on rng lol

oh damn, the tts scans are color

the ones from talisman island were black and white

[short yew]

since I don't know the game, I can't tell if it's all there

[cinder tide]

that space board is crazy looking

[cinder tide]

oh yeah it is

[cinder tide]

yea games been pretty much the same the whole time its been out just art and refinement

wonder how different the rulesets are

[honest tinsel]

Added this to the main mod's description:

Going to have to update all of the add-ons lol

[cinder tide]

if you reupload the mega bundle this kinda sounds cool

[honest tinsel]

The mega bundle will be going in the fire when it's confirmed stable lol

I never figured out how to do directory links

but it would have helped with testing

Rebooting the server now

Sorry for the wait - had to get pogs behaving

Slamming them was getting one of the pogs jammed

turns out I was using the internal version of stuff (denoted by the leading underscore)

and _dealCard was causing problems cause it doesn't handle the pickup/place

[cinder tide]

"There's a note included with the game pieces. It reads: GamesWorkslop Publisher Prototype."

[honest tinsel]

Could just say it's an alternative reality

Reminds me of the whole county/country thing, which is pretty silly

Server up

<@&1200064705109168258>

If anyone is around. Testing new MTG and Pogs add-ons for launch.

Make sure to unsub from all game night add-ons.

---

Clearly on the timeline of events, magic being released early brought about the apocalypse

[cinder tide]

i guess i was wrong

2nd edition released in 85

Talisman Expansion Set in 86

Talisman The Adventure in 86

Talisman Dungeon in 87

Talisman Timescape (based on Warhammer 40k setting) in 88

Talisman City in 89

and Talisman Dragons in 93

[honest tinsel]

Is there a clean way to reset the loot of a server?

I guess I could make loot respawn as fast as possible

[cinder tide]

in-game host menu soft reset

idk off top of my head what it deletes

id just download the server data and then reupload it once you've soft reset

[honest tinsel]

I can create backup images

Probably should do that lol

[cold wolf]

MTG

[honest tinsel]

Indeed

[cinder tide]

@night edge

[cinder tide]

stacks turned out so good looking

you emulated the cardboard look real well

[cold wolf]

agree

[short yew]

Just restarted my computer, hopefully it'll work now

[honest tinsel]

Speaking of lifestyle, how do I mop these floors

[cinder tide]

pail with water on the floor near you

[honest tinsel]

Found an issue with drawing cards, if you place it down the search window stays up + you don't actually de-equip the card lol

[cinder tide]

servers fixed

[night edge]

https://tenor.com/view/bojack-horseman-mr-peanutbutter-peanutbutter-crossover-gif-20449450

[honest tinsel]

Ok... need to add a stack size limit

@cinder tide 2000 pogs got slammed lol

[cinder tide]

lol

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2985394645 same thing but draw instead of take

@honest tinsel can u set my access level

[lament eagle]

function: getCardAtXY -- file: gameNight - deckSearchUI.lua line # 80 | MOD: Game Night
function: cardOnMouseUp -- file: gameNight - deckSearchUI.lua line # 170 | MOD: Game Night
java.lang.RuntimeException: __add not defined for operands in getCardAtXY

[cinder tide]

@short yewall setup for later

[cinder tide]

what'd you use to get the assets from tts
images folder is weird https://www.nexusmods.com/tabletopsimulator/mods/263 worked

what a first draw

ugh of course the decks are in sheets

[honest tinsel]

The UI hand thing is glitched cause dealing drops the card in your hand for a brief moment - should be fixed in the next patch

[short yew]

I was trying out an RP server tonight that's using my map. If the MTG table set up, free same time tomorrow?

[short yew]

I use Tabletop Simulator. When you load a game, it downloads everything to your Documents folder

Just make sure to flip every asset so it downloads

[short yew]

I have a semi-quick process for cutting sheets if you need those in card form

[cinder tide]

Resurrection?

[short yew]

Yeah

[cinder tide]

The tool I linked was heaps faster didn’t realize assets worked like that

[short yew]

How does it work?

[cinder tide]

I was gonna make a grid template in photoshop didn’t realize know how else to do it

[cinder tide]

Locate the tts exe
Choose mod
Download the assets for mods
They’ll all show up in the images folder without needing to flip or draw or whatever

[short yew]

That's way better

[cinder tide]

Ya too many pieces to be bothered otherwise

[short yew]

I use Photoshop too. What I do is create a project the res of the card I want, then import the larger sheet and shift it one by one. But since it's pretty consistant, you can get through a sheet fairly quick

[short yew]

But it is tedious though

[honest tinsel]

Selecting the original option also still draws 1

Those submenu options can still be used as options themselves - but most people don't do it lol

[short yew]

Was gonna mention, draw random could lead to cheating in cards games

[honest tinsel]

Hmm

I could remove it

I don't think any game really does random draws like that

[short yew]

Yeah and if it does it'd be shuffle + draw or something

[honest tinsel]

most games it's shuffle -> draw

Yeah

I also need to probably add a sound for shuffling

[cinder tide]

Yeah . That’s what I was going to do too. Knock out a row then select all and duplicate a few rows then repeat

[honest tinsel]

or animation

[short yew]

yup sounds queues would be good too

also for searching which is another possible way to cheat

but if you make the sound really obvious

[cinder tide]

Could add like an option to code it off per addon

[cinder tide]

Comment out the code or something even

[honest tinsel]

I commented out the context option

The underlying thing is still there

[short yew]

Which version did you decide on?

[cinder tide]

2nd ed

2nd edition released in 85

Talisman Expansion Set in 86

Talisman The Adventure in 86

Talisman Dungeon in 87

Talisman Timescape (based on Warhammer 40k setting) in 88

Talisman City in 89

and Talisman Dragons in 93

[short yew]

Are you going to package all the expansions too?

[cinder tide]

revised has such better card art though

[cinder tide]

most of the old and new expansions just add gameboards, and few cards

so not that many pieces

[short yew]

2019? pushing it a little lmao

Wouldn't the older cards be more nostaligic?

[cinder tide]

yeah

for sure

[cinder tide]

i think all of the game night mods have been lore appropriate so far>?

[short yew]

Yeah so far. As long as the anachronistic ones are their own expansions it's fine. Probably nessesary because so many of the best games are new

[honest tinsel]

If you guys feel like there's something missing from the guide feel free to PR it

[cinder tide]

it looked good i was skimming some of it

[honest tinsel]

Updated with some slight changes to the in-use feature + draw multiples

[night edge]

@cinder tide hire us

[honest tinsel]

Next test you should perform lol

[night edge]

I'll tell the boys

say when, let's make it happen

[honest tinsel]

I suppose tonight

[cinder tide]

https://youtu.be/YXHo1eJWlZI?si=MVjvACDZkJxP58Bh

[honest tinsel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/lBbgj66b7T

Going to try and make this round of testing a bit more beefier.

[short yew]

It'd be super cool to get several games going at once

And if you want it to be super accurate, the room should cause nausea the same way zed corpses do 😆

[honest tinsel]

Fill the room slowly with sweat

[cinder tide]

these always put a smile on my face man good job though fr

[honest tinsel]

Seriously, someone was just asking about videos @night edge , you should hit them up.

[cinder tide]

@short yew you down for some magic tn

[night edge]

I'll hit them so hard

[short yew]

Yes! Ican hop on whenever

[cinder tide]

Still down? Like 30 min

[short yew]

Finishing up dinner. I can hop on in 20ish if you’re around

[cinder tide]

Had to leave the house unfortunately I’ll have time this weekend

[short yew]

Cool no worries

[short yew]

Did a bit a solo testing. Didn't get any of those in-use freezing decks which is good

Randomly generated decks are tough lol. The one I used had only two creatures in it. So some pre-made decks are much more usable than others it would seem. For testing we might need to do a bit a quick deck building beforehand lol

[cinder tide]

Christ that’s rough

Yeah I fully expected to have to build a deck lol

Might look up some builds lmao

[short yew]

Well now I have to too 😅

[honest tinsel]

Is there an expectation for creatures vs spells?

I can add another layer to it

Would need to make another grouping lol

[short yew]

Not another grouping! 😱

It's fine. Building a deck is part of the experience

Some decks are bound to work right away which will make them extra special

[honest tinsel]

it's a feature

[short yew]

Exactly 😉

There was another thing I noticed though now with draw to hand working. Not sure if it's simple or complicated, but when you draw cards into your hand, it should flip to be visible. Right now, if a deck is face down, you draw it into your hand face down as well and have to manually flip each

[honest tinsel]

That's a good point

[honest tinsel]

There are some issues with dealing/drawing cards - couldn't fix it yesterday.

Basically trying to draw all of the cards from a pile.

Leaves behind an item with no cards in its list lol

[honest tinsel]

Stayed up two nights in a row trying to fix these weird issues lol

[cinder tide]

We should organize a really big test when more stuff is ironed out

[honest tinsel]

I think this should be the last thing

I'll have to review Todo lists

[honest tinsel]

Seems like I did it

[x] Fix deal/draw breaking on entire piles.
[x] Test if I set up multiple shift actions properly (MTG tap/deal).
[x] ??? Fix context menu.
[ ] Release

[honest tinsel]

I would release it, but the context menu staying around is a problem lol

I could put in checks to prevent it from causing bugs, but it sticking around is weird in of itself.

[honest tinsel]

Rebooting with context fix

Unless Im forgetting something - I think its ready

[cinder tide]

@short yew you down to clown tn

[honest tinsel]

I'll hop on but can't speak rn

studio apt problems

<@&1200064705109168258> Going to be on for a few hours, if anyone wants to put Game Night through it's paces.

Connecting Info

Updating due to finding a bug

Which ate that MTG deck @cinder tide

[violet fable]

You sure you didn't get hungry and eat it?

[honest tinsel]

Maybe I did 🗿

[violet fable]

🗿

[short yew]

Yessir. Might be home a little later though, like in 5-6 hours from now

[honest tinsel]

Uh.. dragging cards from search is broken

damn this tug of war lol

[honest tinsel]

Mod works for now - just don't try to drag cards from the search window

Hand UI works fine even though it's inheriting searchUI

[cinder tide]

@novel thunder

[violet fable]

I'm gonna hop on, and do it

[honest tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/kaiba-yugioh-gif-19643720

[honest tinsel]

Fixed the issue and rebooted

[pearl pike]

I'll join up once the mods download. I have no idea how to play MTG though.

[honest tinsel]

Same, and there's a number of games

They all use the same framework to play

[cinder tide]

gettin on

[pearl pike]

noticed logging in that my character still had car keys from last time. guessing you've reset since then but if you had to get rid of keyless cars that's probably why

[honest tinsel]

weird

Try closing and try again

[pearl pike]

no luck

[honest tinsel]

any errors?

[cinder tide]

had to let dog out be on in few

rq i do see the board on my end

[honest tinsel]

Could be an error

[pearl pike]

Errormagnifier is showing a few things but I never saw an error notification in the corner

actually wait
didn't you say a while ago to unsubscribe from other game night things first? any chance that has anything to do with it? cause i didn't unsubscribe from anything

[honest tinsel]

Yes it would cause issues

Unsub from anything related to game night

The server is using a repacked bundle

brb

[pearl pike]

Not to do with game night, but a lot of police zombies with modded clothes are spawning, and their clothes disappear when they die

the clothes themselves don't seem to be broken, as i knocked one's baseball cap off and picked it up

i've used small town first responders before, wonder what's breaking it

got kicked with a malformed packet type twelve when i tried to lie down in bed

[honest tinsel]

We don't have STFR installed I think

[pearl pike]

well, i had a hat in my inventory that said it was from that mod. should be in the cardboard box in the room downstairs with the supply crates

huh, it's gone now

pretty much every zombie that spawns on my end has what i think is stfr uniforms on

ok now something really weird happened. i just died and instead of focusing on a zombie of my character it's a random naked zombie with a knife stuck in it

Small Town First Responders isn't in the modlist, but I just knocked another hat from that mod off a zombie. No idea what's going on.

[cinder tide]

is it enabled in your mod list?

like the main menu mod list

[pearl pike]

I'm subscribed to it, but I wasn't aware the game would try to use mods from that list on a server without them.

[cinder tide]

im not entirely sure whats happening there @honest tinsel

[pearl pike]

I could try logging out and just disabling it in my mod list, but if that's the issue I'm surprised I didn't get any weirdness last time I joined the server.

[cinder tide]

brb

i have no idea tbh

[pearl pike]

I'm known among my firends for my weird and horrifying computer problems but this might just take the cake.

[cinder tide]

It’s a possibility that mod does some weird client stuff and since we have anti cheats disabled it may be allowing some funky things to happen

[short yew]

Just about to drive home. If anyone is on cool, if not then another time

[cinder tide]

Chucks gonna look into adding search bar to make deck building easier

Or something

Ya I’m down I’ll be back in soon

[cinder tide]

@short yew my bad man, not feeling so well. im gonna skip out for now

[short yew]

No worries. Just got back gonna do a solo test

[short yew]

Played around with it a bit. Felt pretty good building a deck. If legibility is an issue, a simple solution could be to increase the size of the search UI window to better see the cards. Search sounds complicated lol

[honest tinsel]

I think some QoL can be done to the search windows

Also a tutorial video or something lol

[honest tinsel]

Also, kind of interesting, @short yew, @cinder tide said deck building was too impractical. I'm curious to hear both sides.

I think a search bar to parse names shouldn't be too hard(?)

[strong eagle]

function: slamPogs -- file: gameNight - implementPogs.lua line # 138 | MOD: Game Night - Pogs function: onMouseUp -- file: ISContextMenu.lua line # 90 | Vanilla java.lang.ClassCastException: class se.krka.kahlua.j2se.KahluaTableImpl cannot be cast to class java.lang.Double (se.krka.kahlua.j2se.KahluaTableImpl is in unnamed module of loader 'app'; java.lang.Double is in module java.base of loader 'bootstrap') at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaUtil.fromDouble(KahluaUtil.java:36) at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.luaMainloop(KahluaThread.java:1222) at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.call(KahluaThread.java:163) at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcall(KahluaThread.java:1980) at se.krka.kahlua.vm.KahluaThread.pcallBoolean(KahluaThread.java:1924) at se.krka.kahlua.integration.LuaCaller.protectedCallBoolean(LuaCaller.java:104) at zombie.ui.UIElement.onMouseUp(UIElement.java:1228) at zombie.ui.UIManager.update(UIManager.java:816) at zombie.GameWindow.logic(GameWindow.java:262) at zombie.core.profiling.AbstractPerformanceProfileProbe.invokeAndMeasure(AbstractPerformanceProfileProbe.java:71) at zombie.GameWindow.frameStep(GameWindow.java:765) at zombie.GameWindow.run_ez(GameWindow.java:667) at zombie.GameWindow.mainThread(GameWindow.java:495) at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

I receive this error every time I try to "Slam!" a stack of pogs with a slammer in my inventory

[honest tinsel]

Maybe a button to flip all to the same side, shuffle button, and search bar for the top of the UI.

[honest tinsel]

I'll check it out, thank you

[strong eagle]

Also, is there a way to zoom in on the Pog art? If not, that would be a wonderful feature, as appreciating the artwork is a big part of Pogs

[honest tinsel]

The largest texture size is on the examine feature

[honest tinsel]

Maybe we could get larger sized textures for them since examine wasn't a thing at that time

[honest tinsel]

Also @cinder tide it's probably not very obvious but you kind of have to use a table to mess with decks.

One thing I can try is making search windows interact with each other.

I think right now, you don't ever have to open your inventory to mess with stuff

Which is a drastic improvement

[cinder tide]

I was

[cinder tide]

The main thing was that we have all the cards on table or in inventory

Can’t search easily through them all

I wanted to grab mountains and fireballs etc

I can build a 60 card deck way faster with being able to search cards by name

It definitely makes it a little more difficult to deck build without

It’s not detrimental, but just makes the process a lot longer than it should be

[cinder tide]

And then the ability to possibly split or draw the entire stack so it doesn’t have to be done 7 at a time

[honest tinsel]

Yeah, I hear ya

Even this process could be alot faster to go from search to search

But a filter would be even more helpful

[cinder tide]

• flip all
• draw/deal all
• search filter

These would make a lot of other games easier to interact with as well, not so much what’s already implemented besides magic since they don’t have a ton of pieces

[honest tinsel]

A big thing is also a drag box for the UI

That would help some issues

Rn setting up Catan still requires messing with the inventory window

Cause I cba to move all those pieces lol

I just drag them from the floor onto the play field

To move them in bulk

https://github.com/Chuckleberry-Finn/game-night/issues

Cleaned these up a bit

Probably going to release as is - and try to implement the bigger stuff later

search UI to search UI should be doable

Looking at Zomboid steamcharts the player count is highest at noon on Sundays lol

[cinder tide]

Sounds good

[short yew]

What I did for deck building was searching a face up stack and drawing the cards into my hand. Hand has no limit so you can draw all 60 into it

Just picked the best cards I could find in the stacks.

The land cards are easy to spot in search UI so I snatched up the amount I wanted

[honest tinsel]

Search windows have no limit btw

Hand one is much smaller though

I also want to take a shot at making hand UI scale abit as you hover over it

but what it is now is alright

https://github.com/Chuckleberry-Finn/game-night/issues/38

Made a list of other ideas

New github feature - you can make a checklist and mark issues on the checklist line completed this way

[short yew]

Hey, you got this working! I noticed it last night but since “draw” did the same thing. I did that and forgot about this

Wait is this also stack to stack?

And stack to hand?

[honest tinsel]

I'm polishing this rn

This wasn't a thing last night

HandUI is the same thing as the searchUI

So it all should work - but rn I'm trying to fix an issue handUI seems to uniquely have lol

[violet fable]

Looks amazing, regardless

[honest tinsel]

Wanted to push it out, but I think this was an important feature

[short yew]

Noticed it was missing lol

Think the finishing touches are a bunch of smaller QoL improvements. nurver brought it up earlier, but more ways to split a deck would make handling decks much easier.

Something like the addition of 'Split" deck which splits the deck in halfs, quarters, the amount from a deck would be helpful. And group select in the Search UI

Basically things that speed up the things that are currently one at a time only

Too much automation like auto reset, auto flip all, might break from the spirit of PZ

One subtle PZ moment last night as I was building the deck was some cards in the stack were flipped the wrong way. There was something so real about having to deal with that lol

[honest tinsel]

I can also add deal X like draw has

1 3 5 7

and add split

[short yew]

Yeah, that would be very handy for quickly getting the cards to players

Will prob need to write a full instruction manual in the 'question mark window' at the bottom left. Maybe an image that visually shows all the functionality?

[honest tinsel]

Yeah

[honest tinsel]

Split works

only allows if the deck size greater than the max option (7 cards atm) * 2

so tl;dr: you can only start splitting once you have 15 cards

Rebooting server

Up

Going to do some quick tests in MP and just release it

Also, I assume this goes with out saying - but are the random decks super shitty?

[short yew]

They're very lore accurate

I'll pop in gotta switch up the workshop stuff

Feeling good to me

[honest tinsel]

Tackling the screen scale issue

hopefully it's a quick fix

[short yew]

Would make a fixed size by the simplest solution?

[honest tinsel]

Certain people have small screens, some have large

I'm going to try centering the graphic on the UI - I already do this with mouse dragging stuff

[short yew]

Felt pretty good to me. Put a quick deck together, and went through the actions of playing a game

Cards images might be too scaled down in hand UI? Possibly make them closer to play window sized?

In most card games, it's where the players eyes look at most of the time

[honest tinsel]

Tweaked it a bit - it's alot less off

Before, the pieces would be several squares away

[short yew]

Now it's stable across the different sizes?

[honest tinsel]

Well visually yeah, just need to plug in the differences for the mouse behaviors

Everything refers back to the same function - so it should be quick

All seems to be working

[cinder tide]

I’m stuck running some errands but I’ll be around later

[cinder tide]

Yeah it does capture that feeling well

[short yew]

How did you want to do the help guide? Keep it text? Make it an image?

[cinder tide]

Text might be good if people wanna end up translating idk

[honest tinsel]

Had a little bit of stuff to do

Missed my noon deadline lol

😢

Had to reboot with a fix

Maybe I should test more lol

[short yew]

The peak traffic window nooo! 😭

[short yew]

That is always a good idea 😄

Maybe we should wait for @cinder tide to build a deck and see if the UI is better now

[cinder tide]

what got added?

joinin server

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-gif-25976706

[short yew]

Window to window transfer works now

[honest tinsel]

Yeah

Also, positions are centered*

The most recent small fix was for boards/larger pieces

Which were still following bounds from before, and couldn't go back the midle of the view cause of it

[cinder tide]

@honest tinsel LAG OH GOD

game froze

the game did not like that

[cinder tide]

💀

[short yew]

The game has spoken 💀

[cinder tide]

Rejoining

I put 900 cards in a stack while chuck had them all split up in different search windows

[short yew]

I'm on

[honest tinsel]

I have stuff to close windows in that circumstance - so I need to revisit that

[strong eagle]

@honest tinsel , just sent a message but it disappeared, likely because it included a link.

I found a website that has transparent background PNGs of Pogs, sortable by country of release to make it easier to find sets that would have been available in USA '94.

Just give me a heads-up if I can help out by assembling a collection of them. I have an RTX card so I'm also able to AI upscale them if you need them to be a specific size.

[honest tinsel]

Also I don't think you should just slam all those decks together - they were different colors lol

I think @short yew might still have the original images at a larger size

[short yew]

I think I got them from the same site you found

[strong eagle]

Milkcap mania?

[short yew]

They files in the mod are the same size as the ones from the site

yeah

If anything, they prob need to be scaled down 15%-ish lol

[honest tinsel]

The framework allows for the in-game size to be scaled down - the examine window also lets you scale down -- nothing scales up

So the larger the base texture is, generally the better

[strong eagle]

If it matters, I'm playing on a 2880x1620 screen. The images are reasonably sized on the website, but I can barely make anything out in-game. Might just be a display issue, or maybe I need to adjust my UI display settings?

[honest tinsel]

Did you click the [+] ?

Next to close

[short yew]

That's the higest res I've ever seen anyone play PZ at

Do you have a screenshot?

[honest tinsel]

That's 4k?

[strong eagle]

Must not have seen it, but I'm jumping into the test server to check it out.

[short yew]

People play at 4K?

Isn't it just generally broken at that?

[honest tinsel]

Ah that's 3k, didn't know that was a thing

[strong eagle]

3k, I think. It's an odd size due to nvidia dynamic super resolution.

[honest tinsel]

and yeah, people sometimes will play at 4k - idk why

[cinder tide]

@short yew you getting on?

[strong eagle]

I can take one for you

[short yew]

on now

[honest tinsel]

The search windows do close when messed with in SP

so I guess there's a lingering 'item' in MP

[cinder tide]

@honest tinsel i broke it again

i put 400 cards down at once lagged it to shit

[short yew]

@honest tinsel did you disable the 360 rotation for the pogs?

[honest tinsel]

No?

[short yew]

They all seem upright

[honest tinsel]

You should be able to rotate them using mouse wheel?

[short yew]

I had them auto rotate in a random 360 direction every time they were moved

[honest tinsel]

You mean the ondraw thing?

[short yew]

Like how tarot does a flip check, but it happens every time with the full 360

yeah

[honest tinsel]

Let me check if that got lost

also found a bug with pogs

shift action breaks on them weird

going to take shift action off them

[cinder tide]

@honest tinsel can you reboot it rq

[honest tinsel]

Sure?

Everything ok?

[short yew]

Maybe chuck resized them? They were default size when I uploaded the repo

[honest tinsel]

Ah examine window isn't scaled

This is the default size

[cinder tide]

searching that stack of 360 cards lags bad

[short yew]

I think at some point you may have batched lowered the res

[cinder tide]

earlier i put down almost 1000 cards at once itr wasnt the greatest

[short yew]

They were initially

600x600

[short yew]

May need to cap deck size to avoid explosions

same goes with pogs

[honest tinsel]

Maybe

[cinder tide]

1000 cards are about 1 foot stacked apparently

[short yew]

Sounds about right

[cinder tide]

shouldnt be able to carry unlimited amount anyways

[honest tinsel]

I think the restructure was moving them into a new folder

[cinder tide]

well, endurance/weight caps out at certain point

[honest tinsel]

I can up the weight of cards

[short yew]

Hmm I’ll look into it because I don’t think I’d lower them to 125

[honest tinsel]

I think rn each is 0.001

[honest tinsel]

They were in the initial commit - this was done before examine became a thing

Maybe you sized them down to match the cards a bit

Also, getting your hands on 1000 cards is kind of rare?

[cinder tide]

ya true

[honest tinsel]

But yeah... need to think of a way to prevent that

[short yew]

Maybe I did. I’ll take a look at the older files

[cinder tide]

lmk when rebooted

[honest tinsel]

Will do it in a minute

[strong eagle]

Obviously not as pressing as the “Slam!” functionality, but it sounds like scaling the pog examine size shouldn’t be an issue?

[honest tinsel]

It's not

@cinder tide rebooting, with fixes to pogs

[cinder tide]

[honest tinsel]

fixed the rotation aspect + remove shift action being slam since that seems to not play nice

[cinder tide]

joinin

searching that deck is fine now

no more l;ag fest

@honest tinsel

stepped away to let cat out came back game just shit itself

wasnt doing anything just had two search windows open

[14-04-24 19:41:01.232] ERROR: General     , 1713138061232> 7,938,775,320> GameWindow.uncaughtException> Unhandled java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown by thread PolyPathThread..
[14-04-24 19:41:01.233] LOG  : General     , 1713138061233> 7,938,775,322> -----------------------------------------
STACK TRACE
-----------------------------------------
Callframe at: getMaxPlayers
function: prerender -- file: ISEquippedItem.lua line # 144 | Vanilla.
[14-04-24 19:41:01.240] ERROR: General     , 1713138061240> 7,938,775,328> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space at ConcurrentLinkedQueue.offer. Message: Unhandled java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown by thread PolyPathThread..
[14-04-24 19:41:01.240] ERROR: General     , 1713138061240> 7,938,775,328> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.
[14-04-24 19:41:01.240] ERROR: General     , 1713138061240> 7,938,775,328> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException at GeneratedMethodAccessor1051.invoke..
[14-04-24 19:41:01.241] ERROR: General     , 1713138061241> 7,938,775,329> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.
[14-04-24 19:41:01.243] ERROR: General     , 1713138061243> 7,938,775,331> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: Not enough arguments at KahluaUtil.fail line:82..
[14-04-24 19:41:01.243] ERROR: General     , 1713138061243> 7,938,775,331> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.
[14-04-24 19:41:01.246] LOG  : General     , 1713138061246> 7,938,775,333> -----------------------------------------
STACK TRACE
-----------------------------------------
Callframe at: tonumber
function: prerender -- file: ISEquippedItem.lua line # 144 | Vanilla.

[honest tinsel]

Lol

I think the max deck size needs to be a thing

Maybe like 200 cards?

I could also see if anything is trying to be rendered that doesn't need to be

[cinder tide]

yeah thats a decent amount

[honest tinsel]

Is the searching decks being taken away thing still occuring?

I threw in something for that

[short yew]

When I get back tonight I’ll do a stack test with my cards to see how high I can reasonably stack them 😆

[short yew]

I didn’t encounter any problems when I was on earlier. What was that issue?

[honest tinsel]

Nurver took the decks off the table while I was searching through them

My windows didn't close and I could generate cards lol

My guess is items aren't deleted/scrubbed if there's a reference for them hanging on

[short yew]

Now that I think about it, searching a deck would be something you would need to pick up the deck to do, so maybe searching could temporarily move the deck to your inventory or otherwise blocked in some way while it’s being searched? What did you do to prevent that from happening?

[honest tinsel]

I could do that yeah

That's kind of how hand UI works

[honest tinsel]

Rebootin'

[honest tinsel]

All seems well now

Tempted to just release it

Maybe someone will catch a bug or two while I'm asleep

[short yew]

Feels pretty ready to me. Did a quick scientific test on stack sizes and 190 cards is what I can comfortably hold in one hand 😆

[cinder tide]

cardboard crack

[short yew]

Truly. Now hopefully we create fiends in PZ

[short yew]

Did a quick check and still feels good to me

[honest tinsel]

I'm holding off on adding a limit only cause I can see it causing issues lol

https://tenor.com/view/button-press-tiktok-i-pressed-the-button-i-agree-gif-13669092162861903601

[uneven prairie]

Chuckleberry Finn

Game Night

TCG+Volumetric Update:

• Added specials overrides for category and name for cards. (for Pogs)
• Improved internals to the action mechanics. (Better MP syncing)
• Tweak: Drag over to merge decks now less sensitive. (5px -> 8px)
• Fixed: Rotating items will stay in the constraints of 0 - 359 degrees.
• Added: Disable piece rotation by type. (Disabled a few different types of pieces)
• Tweaked Monopoly naming conventions.
• Allow cards to generate ContextMenu from SpecialActions.
• Added ability to draw/deal multiple cards....

Tags

Build 41
Framework
Misc
Multiplayer
Pop Culture
Silly/Fun

Type

Item

File Size

18.374 MB

Steam Client Link

steam://url/CommunityFilePage/3058279917

Project Zomboid · Apr 15, 2024, 3:50 AM

[honest tinsel]

Forgot this does that lol

[cinder tide]

yeeeeeeeee boy

[stuck yoke]

yeeee

hope everything goes smoothly chuck

[cinder tide]

did you implement maxc stack size?

[honest tinsel]

Nah, it's going to need more time to test that thoroughly

I'm imagining you'd be able to pack in up to the max and the rest of the cards stay put

but that creates some issues and I'd need to change a few of the gears so to speak

[cinder tide]

sounds g ill make sure i go easy on the test server

[honest tinsel]

My suggestion would be to spawn the MTGCards item and not boosters or starters

Flip em over and check what colors they are

try grouping up only decks with the same colors or pulling good cards out of them that way.

For better or for worse, there isn't a way for an admin to spawn specific cards lol

[honest tinsel]

Updated the server to the live version(s)

[strong eagle]

Pog slam is working, but the examine window still doesn’t scale, as a heads up

[honest tinsel]

Yeah, I prepared the in-game texture to scale to what it is now, but the textures need to be replaced by the larger scale stuff.

[strong eagle]

Okay; I assume you & Oppolla have that, but offer's still on the table if you want some AI upscales of them/anything else

[honest tinsel]

How large are the originals on the website?

600x600?

I think the largest that would work would be 300ish?

If @short yew still has the original files sorted it would be less work than to redownload, rename stuff, and resize.

Otherwise, I'd be happy to receive more hands to help. 👍

[strong eagle]

I'm seeing varying sizes between 350² and 500² at a glance. For future reference, the AI upscaler can batch resize as well, if that's helpful.

Either way, congrats on the latest release & I hope your morning goes swimmingly 🙂

[honest tinsel]

Someone found bugs 🗿

The mod Take Any Amount apparently breaks item handling.

For drawing cards

[honest tinsel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/C3lhk4sIcF

[cinder tide]

Ah fuck off

[honest tinsel]

The comment? 😅

[cinder tide]

Yeah

[cinder tide]

Oops

[short yew]

How do you take a good screenshot of the games? 😵‍💫 😅

Fog is key

[cinder tide]

Wym

[short yew]

Made some quick screenshots for mtg and pogs so people can see how it looks in game

but had trouble making it not look to busy with the background

[cinder tide]

Chuck just throws everything on the floor and it aligns perfectly for him

[cold wolf]

oop

[honest tinsel]

You can be in a closet and just drag the camera away

[short yew]

I can't seem to find the full res Pog image files 💀

Will have to redownload them all again, rename, organize, etc

It was made before the examine feature so I think I destructively resized them

[strong eagle]

I offered help to Chuck, same offer applies— let me know if you’d like a hand assembling a collection, AI upscaling/batch resizing, etc.

[strong eagle]

And as we all remember, KY wasn’t overrun by the dead until late 2006, so TIS is being pretty liberal with their anachronisms to begin with.

[short yew]

I'm curious how the AI upscale looks. All the image files are in the mod folder if you want to give it a test run

[cinder tide]

what? i thought literally all of the world was toast after the first month because it spread via planes etc

[honest tinsel]

It was

I don't think there lore goes passed the first two months

But yeah, who cares 😅

Unless this guy is a professional card collector or avid magic player from that time, it shouldn't even hit his radar, much less bother him.

[strong eagle]

I wasn't referring to the in-game lore, an attempt at dry humor suggesting KY was in fact attacked by zombies-- seems ridiculous to be hung up about minor anachronisms when it's a fictional premise to begin with.

Either way, just figuring out if there's an easy way to preserve transparency when upscaling. Not that masking out the corners is difficult, but still playing around.

[honest tinsel]

All good, went over my head lol. And yeah, it's not an insane premise that in this version of history had an earlier release of MTG.

I think 300 is a fair size

I don't think one would need to upscale beyond that?

[strong eagle]

That's 340², looks pretty good if it showed up in game at the same resolution. Either scaled, or with the option to zoom in

[cinder tide]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-pissed-off-anger-angry-fist-gif-17698178

[short yew]

Looks pretty good. Was this from 125px?

[strong eagle]

No, sorry, that’s from the site just as a size comparison.

The upscaling attempts look good, but there’s a weird corner cut out of the images as it “decides what to do with” the transparent parts. I’m getting the same results across a couple tools so I’m gonna take a crack at it in the morning.

Weird, not getting the same issue when attempting to scale from your 125x125 images.

Either way, I’ll just need to create a mask to make a transparent background, or figure out if there’s a setting I can find to preserve transparency

[cinder tide]

i keep hearing the game night card thwap

[strong eagle]

in-game, ai-upscaled (pre-mask), original scan

It doesn't look terrible, but there's only so much detail preserved in texture used in-game. However, downscaling from 500 to Chuck's suggested 300 cap looks pretty good.

I don't want to step on toes, but I might get started on assembling that collection? (Paying special attention to detail to make sure they're period-accurate, lest I further anger 3SinkBathroom or nurver)

(ignore the weird corners, the mask tidy clear that up)

[strong eagle]

Is there a bug happening on your server, or is this a post-traumatic thing?

[cinder tide]

in my dreams

[short yew]

Yeah go for it! As long as the names match the current file names, it should work seamlessly. Even the numbers don’t have to match up with what’s currently in the set, as long as total is the same

Anything up to 96 is fine imo 👀

[strong eagle]

Okay, cool! I know you tackled that previously, so I'm low-key relieved to have you 'hand it off'.

Even if they're trying to help, I always find it kind of annoying when a 'coworker' walks up and starts doing the exact same shit I'm doing instead of finding their own way to help.

Is there a reason for the cap at 96? Or just that's what's currently coded?

[short yew]

For these series thing that go on for years, you just have to pick an arbitrary cutoff point. I feel as long as it's in the spirit of '93 it's bendable

[honest tinsel]

You can add more if you'd like 😅 - the file names just have to correspond to the lists being assembled

If you're familiar with github you can make PRs

basically suggestions/submissions

[short yew]

@honest tinsel mind if I update the image on the workshop page to include more Pogs and Pogman? Feel like it needs to be more obvious what the add-on is in the image

[honest tinsel]

Looks good 👍, also drop that pogman in the /images folder 😮

[strong eagle]

God I’m thick in the head.

I thought you meant a hard cap of 96 images. I haven’t talked this much about the 90’s since— well, the 90’s.

[strong eagle]

Noticing a couple different naming conventions; LimitedEdition1.png & Pog_(collectionName)_1.png

I'm guessing the LimitedEdition1.png was erroneously named, since the Slammers follow the latter naming scheme?

[honest tinsel]

The naming convention isn't uniform, but you can also change it if you wish.

The lists to assemble the items just use PREFIX + n, where n is 1 to the designated max.

[strong eagle]

The existing images with the slammers go cleanly from 1-142, but there's multiple 'sets' in the pog images.

Is there any functional reason for having them named that way (coding, searching, collecting, etc), or just the way it was uploaded?

[short yew]

It’s just to help keep the sets organized and manageable. Back when I was assembling the images, I was deciding what to include on a set-by-set basis. A bunch didn’t make the cut (but might in the future?) Also allows for possibilities of booster packs per series which MTG uses

[strong eagle]

Okay, I sort of got the feeling it was intended for that. I’ll keep that in because I feel like collecting is a big part of Pogs, so best to keep a foot in the door for the accessibility of future expansions.

[honest tinsel]

I could also add tooltips to them

That's a feature I have for stuff like monopoly, but I need to get textures for those

[strong eagle]

I know it’s not the appropriate channel, but the “set” idea brings up an idea my wife and I were discussing while playing MP with Named Literature.

She enjoys tracking down book series, and I thought it would be interesting to have;

1. preferential literary genres similar to the music tastes from Lifestyle,
2. a small bonus in stat relief when reading a book from an author and/or series you’ve finished at least 1 entry of.

[honest tinsel]

That's a good idea

When I have more time Ill have to see what I gravitate to

[strong eagle]

Including info such as?

Series, amount currently collected from that series, etc

Yeah, I recall you mentioned your schedule is changing after the last release, I had just forgotten about that idea & wanted to throw it on the pile.

Hope you’re still finding time to relax! 🧘

[honest tinsel]

I am, thank you.

If you'd like, I have a repo for named literature. Feel free to drop an issue.

[cold wolf]

The Monopoly board is hard to read due to the quality and lack of a closer zoom, any way this could be fixed? was very fun playing this with friends

[honest tinsel]

There should be tooltips when you hover over parts of it

Other than that you can scale it using the + button next to close.

[cold wolf]

Ah, so just hover parts of the board to read them, ok that makes sense

[honest tinsel]

Yep, the size of the window is pretty fair I think, the issue is some things are just crazy to try and read.

Hmmm

I just thought of a crazy feature lol

I could have the board have an even larger texture stenciled out for a small area - like a magnifying glass

Not really all that useful for Monopoly, but maybe for other games

[strong eagle]

That's a pretty neat idea; let me know if there's a specific texture you want blown up 🙂

Also, while I'm familiar with github, I've never really used it for requests, so I'll get savvy with that for the pog stuff.

[cinder tide]

I mean tts suffers from it too

You are just able to inspect and zoom freely

[cold wolf]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this probably isn't how it's supposed to look like? LOL

I don't know what happened to the quality but it died 💀

I also tried hovering over the board to read the spaces and it just says "monopoly board"

[honest tinsel]

Turn off Texture Compression

[cold wolf]

Ah, thank you

[cinder tide]

what you dont like your monopoly board deep fried

[cinder tide]

[short yew]

Pogs is bombing though lmao. Might need to add some Pogs to the thumbnail 😆

[cinder tide]

not to say they weren't popular, but might be an age thing

a lot of people probably have no idea what they are

[honest tinsel]

Probably related on popularity too

I think it someone were to do Pokemon or YuGiOh assests those would blow up more than mtg

Might have to hit up tabletop sim lol

[short yew]

Pogs was definitely a flash in the pan kinda fad. Didn't have much legs

[short yew]

There's that YuGiOh guy on workshop. Maybe we could reach out and see if he wants to make a Game Night version

[honest tinsel]

Is there?

Downloading it check it out

The current pokemon and magic mods are not really integratable

I think the chances for this one to be are 0% lol

Most people will script 1 item per card

So if I wanted to make a 1:1 converter I'd need to have the card's replace to GN style

and nuke their scripts

So the only thing usable would be the images

[short yew]

With the framework in place, images are (hopefully) most of the battle

[honest tinsel]

Yep

For pokemon their boosters and starters would also need to be drawn up in Lua

But that should be about it

[honest tinsel]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3225525646

Someone suggested making a collection so they can find supported mods easier

I did find it funny on reddit someone said "is the d&d one official?"

[stuck yoke]

dnd is the best

aside from the basic cards and poker stuff

blackjack in zomboid is kinda hard still though

[honest tinsel]

How so?

Only the dealer touches cards, if anything that might be the best one

[cinder tide]

That’s cool they’re asking

[honest tinsel]

Yeah, I'm glad people like them. I think picking the right game to add will help.

[cinder tide]

pogs mod image doesnt have pog man in it still wasnt sure if you were gonna update mod for that

its in the workshop pictures though

[strong eagle]

Legit dilemma I'm facing.

[honest tinsel]

I say keep it in the general 90s if not early 90s.

1994 is early

[strong eagle]

I was trying to avoid another 3SinkBathroom situation, but I'll throw in the 1994 ones 😛

Maybe I'll denote the 1994+ pogs with a tag in the name to make it easier for them to make a mod patch to remove anachronistic milkcaps.

[honest tinsel]

I would be surprised if anyone went that far

[cinder tide]

still thinking about doing talisman 2nd ed

[strong eagle]

Note to self; dry humour doesn’t translate as well over text.

[short yew]

Create a repo and let's get the ball rolling on that 😁

[honest tinsel]

Honestly, I've seen weirder patches

[cinder tide]

I think I already did

I’ll push the images later today

[strong eagle]

@honest tinsel is the pog repo public? I can't find it on your github

Or what's the most convenient way for me to share the upscaled pogs?

[cold wolf]

Pokemon battling would be very cool ngl lmao, would love to see that

[long crescent]

It's on Oppolla's github IIRC:
https://github.com/oppolla/game-night-pogs

[strong eagle]

That would explain it 🤦

Thanks!