#Familiar Arena QA
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i think one good stall team is stag, sunshine, squiiby, bunny and shrimp/toko
maybe ursa replace stag is good too
should have went for a10 ursa
i dont even have stag. i have a6 ursa, going a7 just waiting for another copy from hatch.
because if you will imagine a simulation wherein your opponent will have similar line up but with enemy ebon.
The role of Ebon is to advance and interrupt familiars who are in the path. Hence, charging enemy front familiars by keeping it away from the backline (protecting). --but of course Ebon should be placed properly where it can have a good direct pathway of skill--
50% is real !!

hell no. hahaha
If it's a really fat rimu, push it away with ebon.
Best counter is of course ursa for cc immunity, but idk if the skill cooldowns will always match.
Rimu is 20 sec cooldown..
Im surprised they run rimu on atk. I should try that when i have him on a7.
Each rimu is 80$ now?
How?
😦
buy NKA, i think. XD
I just farm asterites in fam arena.
I bought it all when it was cheap and then did 33% from a9 to a10 😂
Also, Sapdragon's basic attack range is insanely long ranged 
Let's not be surprised if ever it gets nerfed just like Stagthorn's range adjustment that happened before.
it probably will be. it can hit from backline to backline. jeesus.
anyway, thoughts on this lineup as a general burst lineup?
should I swap shrimp for toko? do you have any questions / suggestions on the placement?
tree talents are:
atk 10%
aspd 10% to backline
support +10% cooldowns
you are up against what line up?
If for example:
Enemy line up is like Front Top Mite or Back top Mite
Then, swap position Toko with Puffu
that's usually my stall buster.
so, you will take advantage of those knockdown moment reflect damage 🙂
as well as protecting Toko from fire
hmm... yeah i used to have puffu in front, but i was thinking since i have aspd tree talent it's better to be at the back.
i will take that to advisement when doing adjustments for mite/fire users. although there are only a few people doing so right now for defense.
im testing if aspd affects dino's cast animations
if not, i will just put him in front lol
it didnt even move forward.
It moved but only little hahah but still long tho
somewhat similar case of Stagthorn before... having longer range.
at least if you put stag before it had to move to midrange to succ.
I put stagthorn behind ((that was before the adjustment nerfed happened))
and whats more scary... if Sunshine debuff ACC make stagthorn miss the pull
yeah i pumped mite before and put it in line with stag when they made the mistake of putting it up front.
ggs no succ stay down - mite, probably.
Anyway, going back to your topic.. These are good buffs
Elemental Synergy for ATK 10%
Backline reinforcement for ASPD 10%
-- third one is this the buff or the debuff for enemy?--
support weakening
I also experimented with mite fighting same target.
but i swap it sometimes if the enemy is atk or def mon heavy.
i thought hidden frags but only puffu benefits from it. so i swapped it for aspd
either that arachnes is a good dodger or did you put 3 jackets on that? lol
same. my dino is 2 rare jackets 1 rare feather
im thinking of doing 2 feather for aspd but for now 2 jackets work better for toughness.
I almost asked you something
?
I scrolled up and saw it was not you who sent the video
because his Dino got erased
I was going to ask you something about it about the toys equipped
This one @raw drift
yeah it got bangbanged by arachnes and dino
anyway, since we are in this Dino topic
any issue with Dino?
I haven't fully experimented on Dino without at least 1 specific toy
cast time takes too long. pretty much.
when it comes to damage... does it contribute good?
other than that he's a typical non-rare 4s attacker.
because you went for 2 rare jacket + 1 rare feather
it's skill has 637% multiplier
that's why i can get away with bulking it up.
that, and it yeets enemies backwards.
I haven't done any full experiment on Dino equipping without specific gloves
but anyway, since you have Relixx with you

That Dark Damage increase will be the icing on top.
exactly. and relixx skill resolves before dino's
wombo combo delete that stupid onion.
no rares yet. i was dumb i forgot my toko still has 5s toys.
i used selection boxes before for random shiz
orz
1 6s 2 5s
the team in action (still using hidden fragments talent here, old match from yesterday.)
Relix and nost next week?
idk, but something dark for sure
nost is just penguincorn with a bit of dmg. may not be worth it.
true, Nost for PVP-focus
Im happy with Nost, because I can skip xD
yup, he's a CC breaker
def gonna pass. im good with a9 relixx for now if he's the other banner.
U sure is relix?🥹
Surely its Relixx 
Need relix A10
if I pass my fam box here could I get some advice on team comps for grand prix + what to build/focus next?
I wonder if they'll air relix and nost together
I'm thinking of Auroralynx banner... because of the Halloween event (nightmare plaza) --I'm just guessing-- 
Or arachness 🥹
When this news will be on air !?
maybe Tuesday or Wednesday? since (3days left for the current banners)
Probably on monday
Oh yeah. It is possible it's lynx again. Hmm. Still a pass. XD
Post box and current lineups, maybe?
Alright
wasn't sure if this was the correct place for this 😛
anyway this is my current situation, fam tree 40, and currently have about 3-4 sparks saved up for a Copium relix or gloomie rerun
was wondering what should I build next in terms of gummies and if I should shuffle up my comps, currently the first comp is a fill comp meant to balance out gummy income from the shop but it's a 100% lose rate, the other 2 comps are serious
Your team 2 is ok, but your team 3 is severely lacking in attackers. Soarboar isn't exactly something you use in atk.
If you can get more copies of ouroboros soon, it's a good candidate for jellies and swapping to 3rd team.
sadly getting more copies of anything is linked with when will a relix or gloomie come
If you have lotsa timepieces and eggs, hatching is a good alternate souce of non-rare 4s.
Heck, i got 2 relixx from there.
I do pretty much only get obsi/prism from adventure and hatch everything, sadly the rate has been rather unfriendly with mee
Yeah. I've had my share of disappointing relixx and stagthorn wishes that turned to ruff.
what about regular fam arena, I currently run disbeleaf ebon, hippo shrimpa toko
as defence
then for attack I'm rather stumped because I don't have anything that can kill a sunshine
Your defense is good for now, it's a classic stall team.
For offense, if you can't kill sunshine fast, position your ebon so it rams the sunshine first. Then kill everything else.
Basically, isolate the sunshine to a corner and focus the other melee fam.
If you're lucky, the ebon will ram the sunshine to the healers, so you can gain access to them faster / succ them in with your hippo.
Thanks God.
Congratzulationn
Sad no relix
No aurora either
Aurora is useless anyways
Pretty good I’m able to take down many dark comps because of Aurora I have a10 3 ssr toys
The dino light one is better
Dino light?
The one that shoots rays
I would not say useless in this dark meta 😆 still a good fam to a7 for farming passive
Thats it 😂
Ya Snap is better but what I mean is Aurora isn’t bad ! It’s a very good combo with relix as well since it’s back to back skill DMG
Yea no Auroralynx banner T_T but probably what they will do is like the one they did with Slee and then later added Puffu for the second (multiple banner)
Nost (Caw-ctor) banner is next, and I wonder if they will bring back Auroralynx banner for halloween (Nightmare Plaza).
As for the topic of "the Dragon Light" or Sapdragon or Sap...
It is really good because of insanely long ranged basic attack + target focusing only on the familiar with the highest ATK (just like Hog-goblin).
hello!! need suggestions on FA attack line up. having hard time to win against ebon+sunshine front TIA! ✌️
Are you dealing with 3 healers or just the standard toko + shrimp?
For 3 healers, use 1 tank, 3 attackers and 1 healer.
#teamfish
oh yeah
Replace ebon with whip. Has a fishy head
i could but my whipper is only a3. =))
Only for the screenshot 
tomorrow nost a7 u ready?
Sponsor me pls
Familiar related but not FA....
Does familiar skill damage scale with player elemental damage? (Ex: Will enhancing dark atk orb increase Arachnes active ability?)
afaik yes. I have 280k dark atk right now and my a6 rimu hits like a truck in pvp. And that's a def pet and not even max awake yet.
tho i am not sure of the exact formula on how it adds to the dmg, if it's
(atk + elem atk) x multiplier
or
(atk x multiplier) + elem atk
pretty much why i switched from kona to rimu when I got him high enough awake, because my fire atk sucks.
Glad to know I aint going crazy. 1shot someone +1m of my cp with just arachnes 
Used 400 tickets and got 3 copies of sleepy. then tried minimum awakening a7-a10. The result is a8😵💫
360 tickets+42k gems (still need 2k/40 tics till pity)
yesterday sleepyhead 7-8 50%-s, 8-9 50%-f, 8-9 50%-f,
fire rare orb 7-8 50%-f

Maybe you will get it back with nost
but nost is crap on FA
if you're melee and eat a lot of CC, maybe nost?
GL on GP guys
Yeah?
Read its skill. Does nothing. Low damage, no stun
If it was atck fam...maybe could be worth it. If that tornado actually worked liked hippos skill...
So the bonding tree is buged
what is it?
player or fam?
Fam
My dino was 103k pc in battle before the update
Now is 98k in battle
Same for the all ny fam c.c
Rng?
Cant be rng
can be, if it post battle detail
2 day ago before the update
my pre-battle CP is still growing when I growing fruit
yes, I mean this one, the RNG one
maybe some other can confirm this
ex:
my pre-battle CP is about 472k
but when I saw it on post-battle detail, its up to 493k
After update with 490 jellys
that's why I told u that post-battle is sometime RNG with or without some buff from the battle itself
Before with 480 jellys
toys?
and I mean
dont focus on post-battle detail
focus on your pre-battle
that's more stable
Lol I'm out from GP 1st round
me and @clear rover too
even defending champion Sunny too

The same bro. I havent change the toys x3 6* general attack
I won't even last long even if I win
I'm in Sunnyyy's group... unfortunately, Sunnyyy lose too :/
since more ppl here, can someone confirm me about those post-battle CP to @torn thicket?
do u understand my explanation?
Before and After the update plz
Yes
Post cp, pre cp... don't bother your mind with that) CP increases, because of the buffs. Like +10% attack
for pre-battle cp, I mean this one, more stable if u want to compare
Ok
And bonding tree too ? Or not? v.v
yes, bonding tree is increase a little each time it level up
U need bonding tree.
u will notice some CP change
Ok thanks guys
after 3 observation today, they might bring back the non-buffed post-battle CP
@torn thicket @waxen spoke @clear rover
the post-battle cp is now equal to pre-battle cp
My grass tree is 45 now. Rest 35)
Guys im preparing for the #2 round
is this 458k equal to your pre-battle?
Maybe u guys can give some tips to me
so we can now back to remember the stable pre-battle CP, not both pre and bloated by buff
prepare your team and pray for matchup RNG
My compo
i got through 1st round! Might be dead on the next one tho haha
i've just prepared this guy
double 50
If only i could a8 or a9 my fish...
My opinion:
Party 1. Flashfish with dururu and splisher with Disbelief
Party 2. Bull front on dururus spot, and monkey on bulls spot
Party 3. Oro, Dino and Sun are melee, so toko is great there. We need 1 more fam there. The best could be if u had squibby. Strong ranged DD could be nice too, like a.lynx, gloomi.but maybe your splisher will work too
This are only my thoughts and those who do better can suggest better comps
Personally I play mostly like this:
A. 4 melee with toko
B. 2 melee and 3 ranged
Toko is amazing with stag+f.lynx when aiming for bunker setups
I don't use the bull in front because they cancel very easily my arachness
Arachness is a7
Same as relix
In this case I have no idea how to help you)
you really dont want arachnes in front because she's made from eggroll wrappers.
After the bull uses his skill arachness remains behind the bull
i envy you guys. you got dururu to a10. stupid event didn't give dururus in hard. i only made it to a8.
Have you guys by any chance got a updated tier list of familiars in global?
Or kr?
sadly, no. this game has a huge lack of information online. I only know of 1 decent database website, and even that is missing a lot of info.
I just got home
@shell grail Sunnyyy changed name to 再見
I think Sunnyyy forgot to update team set up ? 😦
did he lose?
i got lucky. my enemy thought heal stall would work in grand prix. unfortunately for him, he ran into my healbuster team. XD
oh wait, no he ran into team fish.
my healbuster got rekt by his main team lol
well congratulations to you~ were you Defense side or attack side?
your opponent's combo connected at team 2
yeah. that and i only have toko as heals.
that team 2 strat was stall until dino and relixx reload their skills. XD
your opponent's team 1 - Gear'4 's hippo lack damage as the only main damager in the team
I like your team 3 match
ironically, team 3 is the throwaway team
heal clutch of thumbe
that monke is just +300 jelly haha
at least your monkey is +300 XD
i just needed the aoe heal
your team one was unfortunate. if ursa could've survived 2-3 more hits, that would've been gg on 2nd round.
welp, next project, maybe. what's his awake tier?
ursa couldn't handle it because of crit hits on him
hows nost in FA? does he suck?
S level of suck
if purpose is to stall and troll = It is on the similar tier of Penguicorn
so using Nost is like relying to RNG-jesus more
You can disregard the damage from his AOE, but just pay attention to it's effect of ACC -%
yea~ I'll try to get at least a copy for PVE
hoping for some luck
but... he's useless for pve.
like, SSR useless.
he's like ursa, supposedly only designed for cross server.
but at least ursa has a decent kit in fam arena, and you can use his shields in raids.
nost just clears CC and maybe give you some stat boosts for a few seconds.
for fam arena, penguicorn is better. at least he hits 3 targets.
nost hits one, maybe two if they're close to each other.
but the stat boost is mainly for pvp, so ye...you should never be running nost in pve
like ever
Rip for me 😦
My is a7 double rare toys haha))
I have Nost a7 and I tested him. Very weak on FA
Thanks
Sadt I got nuked to orbit by gloomie. Made it to 3 rounds, at least.
I am Esthephany
a true f2p match up lol
I think you should be fine as long as your disbeleaf holds out.
lol -2% votes
Havent really been buying bundles for a long time, so i cant answer that. XD
was growing so fast
Well it had a date
🥹
it suck on FA/GP in the first place
not that useful, it is also a support fam
I saw 1 dude using him yesterday in GP
ofc lose to Oscar (Oscar had lower cheering percentage)
Let’s observe for coming day
Anyways it’s not that good but I saw almost every battle of KR gp
His doing good
You need to compare his DMG with atk familiars in KR it’s really doing good as it’s a support familiar tailored for PvP
If you don’t see it 🫠
Ya and compare it DMG with arachness and lynx. Here it has done a great job in terms of DMG been a support familiar
40k from a support is very good
yeah, thats A10 + 4xx-5xx
Ya I have a10 SSR x 1 6 X2
share us your experiment later
I’m out of go against a f2p player 😭😂😂😂
Ya I pulled him for PvP
But yes he could be useful for gp as well definitely not for FA
Coz in my Sever I can’t hold rank 1 with including him
Most of the top 10 players has very good familiars
What are they using? Mind sharing? 😅
Nah, he is not good in FA and GA. His skill doesn't deal a lot of damage and also hos skill does not inflict any conditions or stun/fear/etc.
I made a7 and did not even boost stars. Just placed him into PvP deck
What level is your b.tree? And how many fuses done? I'm at lvl64, 180 fuses
35,35,45,35,35
Well if you have bunch of rare familiars then it’s okey you may not use it. But numbers tell me something else here. His not bad I mean it terms of DMG he contribute and also ACC down 40% is good seen it like shrimp heals missing and also other attacks..
I have 32, 32, 40, 50 & 70
I've seen the numbers and they were so-so. OK, your dark branch is 70, my is 35
That's why your damage us fine
And here is in EU
I test Nost on 35 tree and Puffu and puffu does like x2 damage
lower accuracy rate
You mean I damage whom !?
You have a10 with ssr toys !?
No, puffu a9 with 1ssr. Nost a7
Ya it depends
Should I do a9 guarantee or go 50% all the way to 10?)
I’m just waiting to do a10
I just need one more copy
I can’t pull anymore I have reach my limit 😂
I think I'll a9 guarantee
I’ll test Nost soon
It's almost same as 10
Will show you guys result here
Ya
I could a9 sleepy, but clicked 50 twice and failed🤣
But I like that atk spd and movement spd and DMG to players 20%
Damn I won do it
I want pull sleepy
Hopefully on rerun
Whats the rare toy bonus of nost? Aspd or cd reduce?
Cd
But after that fire orb double 50 success)
It’s a support fam @raw drift
How do you get all those orb !?
I’m so unlucky didn’t get any orb
Banner, Packages in the shop
No tumba !?
I got 2 rare green orbs from free event tickets.
I converted 3 a10 normal orbs from tumba
Time to build my earth deck.
That’s a good deal ya
@charred umbra try here, maybe someone can provide u an answer
I cant tell u, because bias xD
I dont use both of them
ye i really want to change this dino even tho hes +420
i want to use gloomie but still A1, i think its a waste to use it and jelly it right away
but i already had arachn +300 so still dilemma
leave A1 behind
yeah was thinking to wait gloomie banner and pity it, then make it 3* with 500 days box
dino just so inconsistent
sometimes can kill 450 k sometimes lose to 350 kek
Shae told u to pick Arachness
guess i will save premi jelly for it
i have 4 eggs too, i want upgrade squid but squid a0, was thinking either make stag aw 9 or arahnes a9
yeah but arachnes skill way better than dino i think
those aoe and increase dmg dealt
If anything, arachnes' skill executes faster.
Ngl i only use dino cos i dont have arachnes or gloomie.
And hobgob is too suicidal.
Well dino took me to the GP finals
He need 2 healer and hipo or 2 good attackers
My dino is 495 jellys
Im using arachness too
Arachness +9 is a beast
Waiting relix or arach banner.. I have both a8 😦
Maybe they come back next year..
woah
imagine consume those 1200 for 3 pity to get 3 from pity 
from my perspective recently, I feel like summon by diamond gave a better result than tickets
just feeling
holy moly
I know its RNG
im still at 200 tix
A10 relix and I will be happy
Im too trigger happy with tickets. XD
Yeah im happy with my a9. Might save event chests with relixx on it if I manage to hatch some stray relixx from egg again.
I would love arachnes but i only have a0. My next project with the monthly egg is stagthorn, i really need that succboi for certain lineups aka squibby stalls.
Arach that good in GP?
Yes but you can replace with dino if you need to use monthly eggs for stag, squibby
Kamikaze
Yes I did spend 130k Dias yesterday and got like 3 to 4 copies apart from pity
I’m not sure if it’s good result
I didn’t had fam tickets so I have to gamble with Dias
😁😁😁
Elemental advantage vs melee familiars
Redid my anti-stall. Apparently, Shrimp has better sustain than toko, since ebon won't be eating as much skills when up against heal stalls.
also moved the puffu to backline for aspd bonus. forgot to update that on the pic. XD
I do need to pump my shrimp, so i don't fall victim to power reversals.
I need u a9 relix:(
Out of 10 how good?
Hmmm dino will be dead before that skill cast 😂
nah, this is anti-stall. if he dies to a healer he should just fall on his horn or something. 😂
haven't tried this new lineup much yet, but so far it's punching through ebon/sunshine + 3 heals variations and some 4 heal lineups.
Kills almost everything solo x)
Place him backline behind a tank and you're good. Weak to cc but arach is also she just casts faster
I usually put him at the back and let ebon absorb the initial impact, but i figured puffu will benefit more from being at the backline because I have backline reinforcement and puffu's skill is aspd-dependent.
I had 4 copies of Nost and decided to go 50% all the way to 10. Failed 3 times
Than 2 copies of this guy
Than 50% this guy
Lost 1 copy overall
could do 100% a9 lol
damn that's very unfortunate
RNGesus
what's the cheering percentage?
I would pick right
63% - 37%
In favor to lamueva
love to cheer underdog
It is quite tough
Why right?
Need some details bro 😂
rimu will cause the RNG, whether meta's front go where while confused
so, its look like a coin toss
this based on pure head to head, idk the bond powers they equipped.
squirrel and arachness might cause a huge trouble
but if arachness and hog confused then go back to their own backline, Mueva probably win.
Hmmmm
oh shi- got lucky with the whack-a-mole random rare toy.
hopefully get to fuse a shrimp rare toy soon
@raw drift congratulations!~
I got Hog-goblin... 
I should've not sacrificed my 2 rare hog-goblin gloves before... If I knew that I will get another this.
I got this
I got purrloiner yesterday I got rid of his one of the ssr toy and today again I got it back it’s like netmarble knows what I threw and they threw it back to me 😭
I feel you.
i want dis...
So broken imo
Yeah
Got an auroralynx rare. Gonna be good when we finally get a rerun and I can pull again
U an rinu rare but i dont have rimu still:(
Last 5 ssr toy I got is bad 😭
gimme dem toys
finally got free-for-all policy on pet hatching! time to hatch tomorrow.
Good luck 
Gloomie rerun this Wed
Whos better to a8 gloomie or relix?
Gloo
gdi i dont have tickets. then again, i only have a1 gloomie
Lol
Bruh
There we go
I want to build a better ATK team. Preferably with Draggle included
You really wanted the fire attack % from 3* familiar it seems 

I want to +600 Draggle
Too much $ but if hes so good I need a9..
who can cancell bull's 1st move besided another bull?
Ursa
Is a9 dururu usable in grand prix? Thinking of using him for my 3rd team.
Gonna dump the rare jackets and feathers on him and just annoy the backline lol
- x2 Relix with 1370 tickets+ 30k daimonds
I will pull more the next week, 20k daimonds to a9 coz I already have x2 rare selector eggs with gloomie in. Im very happy coz I was saving that eggs for relix but I get x2 relix too
Best synergy for gloomie GP? Should I use with hipocampo and dinoceros?
I wish a had the patience and restraint not just use those tickets on normal summons
question, you guys think with this gloomie and my box I could reliable break the standard ebon + sunshine + 3 healers in fam arena?
Try ebon, hob, gloomie, hippo, shrimp. (You can flip ebon and hob spots depending on what you need. Just remember shrimp should always be behind ebon.)
Lv 10 all element synergy
Lv 10 backline reinforcement
Lv 10 def weakening
if I can chose, who should I place ebon in front of, sunshine or ebon?
try ebon hob gloomie hippo shrimp
- ele syn
- hidden fragment
- support weakening
sadly I need 1 more awaken on that team for hidden fragments
Cant hidden frag, that's just 44.
replace with def weakening
the actual keys against this kind of stall is support weakening
1 copy of ebon away from a10
but u should raise stag asap
If they are using a low awake squib, supp weakening works. If not, just go def weakening and kill the tanks as fast as you can.
yeah, stag is next on my list from the free rare eggs, sadly it's a long term project as a f2p
unless I can use him low awk
But yeah. Stag, then point it at the squid.
Toko too
go both def and sup weakening
but why hog? xD
You can remove backline reinforce if you like, but I like it for extra backline dmg and faster shrimp healing. Also i have puffu so im biased.
His dino is only a6.
You could go mite but you lose ele synergy.
or try this
ebon shrimp up front
Suiryu Gloomie Hippo back
- def weakening
- sup weakening
- backline rein
Suiryu is one of the best range dps
Oooh i wouldnt suggest putting shrimp in front. It'll get turned to tempura rq.
I'll give it a go, hopefully I get reliably in top 100
At what awakening is stag usable against stall? I'm working on it but only a1. Long term project for me too.
I want to max dino gummies first since I got a10 recently. I think dino is really good against stall too.
I would suggest 7+
dino is okay to push their frontlines to the back then focus 1 by 1
there is diff strat against stall team, and thats based on your pools
actually, its only role is to pull their back up front, at least 2 times, I guess
That's gonna take a while haha
I'll send you my pool when I have the chance. Rn, I'm using agaisnt stall : ebon, dururu, mite, hyppo, shrimp.
I'm placing ruru to jump on toko when I can so he can make toko use his skill on himself while bursting the tanks. I sometimes don't have enough burst tho. That's why I want to psuh dino to use synergy with ebon/rimu and relixx. Relixx is only a6 atm. I'm gonna pull more copies on re-run
@shell grail this is what I'm working with
had u try ebon rimu hippo relixx shrimp?
- ele syn
- support weak
- def weak (sadly, u cant use hidden fragment)
and if u r going to invest Dino, try ebon rimu hippo dino shrimp
- ele syn
- support/defense weak
- hidden fragment
Yes and dmg is too low when their squib is high awakened even with rare gloves on attackers. Relixx too weak rn
I'm top 15 so vs good teams
My current stall buster is
Dino a10 450
Ebon a10 450
Puffu a7 435
Relixx a9 450
Shrimp a10 420
Backline reinforce
Ele syn
Hidden frag
You can replace puff with another range dps, I just like it because it deals consistent rapid dmg. You can do hippo for a bit of CC, or if you get stag online to pull the healers in.
But I was using backlinee reinforcement instead of defense weakening. Worth to test again
sadly, I built stall counter around Stagthorn, so I cant provide that much other info
and long time no see stall teams around me
I was thinking if I built stag instead of hippo, i would've gone,
Stag a7
Ebon a10
Gloomie a7
Relixx a9
Shrimp a10
Sadly, i dont have stag and gloomie.
thats exactly my counter team
- Ele syn
- Hidden Fragment
- Support Weakening
usually all support died on the 2nd Stag's pull before ebon and sunshine
Yeah. Running 2 def gets around stall teams that use atk weakening. But it has to be a def familiar with high dmg multipiers and/or good CC. Like stag or rimu.
Im still waiting for an ursa hatch, but im thinking something like this:
Rimu a7-a8
Ursa a7
Squibby a8
Relixx a9
Puffu/Hippo a7
Royal
Ele syn
Def weaken
Main issue with that is sustain. Since squid is the only healer. But I think the crits are worth it. 🤷♂️
And ursa is pretty much dps disguised as tank.
and this build cant get pass ursa ebon squib toko shrimp 
A10 Ursa prevent Stag's pull
Ursa is broken once it steps into a7-a8 territory.
here it come, the f2p hero against ursa
O r o b o r o s !!
high jellies high toys, ofc
Yeah. There's this one guy who used to get free kill from me. Runs stag oro cactus +400 jelly. Super annoying cos I run puffu on def.
My def team is 2 heal 2 def stall + puffu. 1 heal cant sustain if puffu gets free hits all the time.
Happy I maxed jellied my oro last gp season.
I still have 3 familiars to build to be happy : Dino, aurora (waiting for rerun to awaken) and stag (waiting monthly eggs to awaken). The I'll be all set for my f2p gp builds
This is what I'm aiming for with hyppo instead of puffu or a tech choice depending on opponent
Wao gloomie is so broken..
Before gloomie I was a free kill for him but now he cant kill me.
now I can even beat him
And I still have to awaken gloomie A9 or A10 and arachness A8 next week + 500+ jellys.
Broken
any tips to beat this lineup
ebon sunshine toko shimp squiby?
Stag
hipo suryu shimp(or toko) ebon stag? is that possible?
possible, and choose shrimp
Dino stag arachnes toko ebon been losing vs sunshine ebon squibby toko hippo
Even when I'm up 10-20k CP
try replace toko with shrimp
and both dino and arachness are glassconon
put ebon stag up front
rare general?
Yes
rare general worse than 5s specific
as I said, replace toko with shrimp
Yah will do... Can still top30 but takes more effort than before 
and your dino and arachness are bad against hippo
Yah but unfortunately hippo is (more often than not) hidden. Vs other matchups dino arach has no problems
Hopefully shrimp sustain can keep stag alive to tank hippo
For shrimp hairpin rare generic is better right?
rare spec is the best
I still use 6s spec one with 1 rare spec
Ohh i thought the aspd will be nice to have since his heal is basic atk based
rare spec give aspd
Yeah, hippo / puffu and other big aoe dps + the standard stall can be hard to punch through sometimes.
balance it
Ohhhhh just need to get lucky then 
sometime u need aspd, sometime u need more heal value
Mayhaps consider using power reversal?
Til then 3x6s specific it is
I just put shrimp far from stag
like stag pos1 shrimp will be at pos5
or stag pos2 shrimp will be at pos3
Elem syn, supp weak, def weak
What do you suggest i remove?
if against 2 sup + hippo
replace sup weak
can be replace it with atk weak too
your choice
Anyone know how to control ebon vs ebon skill priority 
Backline ebon used to go first 80% of the time now its almost 50-50 
Sunshine pain in the ass as well 
yeah, more RNG
for real?
yes, 5s spec is slightly better
For tanking. Ebon 6s spec vs rare jacket?
i dont have stag toy, so problly i just can give me 3 rare hp
Assuming spec still better....
my ebon still use 3x 6s spec
all rare pink general I get go to re-combination
but it still usable on other type fam, like atk one
Only mittens are worth it huh?
if u want more survivability
if u want more survivability on some attacker, u can use rare pink jacket or rare feather hairpin
this is my only
i still have rare picker *6 to build stag but still dont sure
i want beat the shimp toko squiby + sunshine + ebon
my shame was i lost to that build even tho they just have 2 power up 😦
your main dps is not strong enough to burst their frontlines, right?
what your build against that stall team currently?
power up build?
support weaking, def lower , +45 damage up
curently
hipo suryu shimp, ebon mite
try replace mite with dino
if i add stag , should i have the toys or just rare general ? and what i change if add stag
not sure your stag can endure dmg to execute the 2nd pull
will arachness can be better ?
i still have 6 rare picker btw, so my stag can be a8 at least
that's great
my stall counter comp is
Shrimp
Ebon
Gloomie
Stagthorn
Relixx
- Ele syn
- Sup weak
- Hidden F.
that was expansive setup haha
i dont buy anything for like 7 month, so i use familiar as i have
Now 2 more to a10
66%?
Never. Just need to buy x2 from shop
great decision
Guys. This or x2 gloomie from shop
the one with rare toy?
u mean beside these 2?
Which I should buy
I know the lv125 pack is a little riski
X2 lv125 pack = 20k daimonds and 100 tickets too
But if i dont get 1 extra copy when i pull that..
I would pick instant buy packages
The x2 gloomie from shop is secure and u can get a rare toy
with the rare toy is 1st prio
I feel i can get 1 from GP maybe..
Get rank 1 and sell nka to buy the other stuff xD
Ye. But i have some rares low and maybe.. with luck i can get some from pull again
Hipo or arachness,relix
your choice
choose what best suit your desire
20k daimonds and 100 tickets to get just 1 pity and 1 squiby..
seem like not worth
that toy package then
Ye but first Next week I will pull with 3k diamonds maybe I get lucky... before try to buy that pack
33%
@waxen lynx u can find some info here
I love to put Gloomie with dark squad
ex: with Relixx and Ebon, my trio
Gloomie skill is mind-controls
so it can delay or cancel enemy's frontline skill (ex: ebon's push)
I cant
Coz I have arachness with taurex,relix
Im triying to have x2 good compo
arachness can boost any ele, so she can be in other squad
I know but need taurex to be safe
I will show you my fam and re-do it your way so I will try.
actually, u can put Gloomie any squad
@spring forum hows Nost dps on FA? I found it pretty low compared to Glomi or Relix
I’m suprise how much damage it contribute over time
it aimed only toko though
What happen with Nost is when you go specially against a stall comp or even not a stall comp because of the damage it do to backline it’s hard for healers like shrimp to keep up!
idk...i need 1 more toy for him, but skill... i don't find him strong on FA
i see too many better options
Well his working very good for me
What awake?
I now play only via +20 crit, +15atk and +10atk
Is it better this way?
Let me share with you some more screenshots
Please
No he just doesnt have the right one
Not really I use it coz I don’t have any other toy 😂
Oh hahahaha
I read his mind) well, im in the same boat))
Was not sure to go a10 only have a7 atm
I don’t know my nost does more DMG then any other familiar
I hope this will proof you
once i got a9 glomi and jellied him i started winning a lot in FA
it all depends what u r using nost against. its cool if against sleepyhead and a.lynx combo
because they cant reach u and u can
This is the only way i see Nost viable on FA
Some of these opponents aren’t with light fams but does good DMG still
Also my nost don’t have max jelly still
my is +300 just for pvp
It crits a lot
I think nost just goes after farthest familiar by default. XD
I mean, it can be used like if you're targeting a certain healer at the back, i guess? But quite frankly I'd rather just stick a gloomie or relixx in the lineup instead.
But that's just me, since i dont need a cc breaker in pvp cos im ranged.
If you're close enough to hit me while im cc'd, im probably dead anyways.
No good for FA
No1 can stop gloomie if u have good combo
A7 arach
My is a2
before bed i was 7th and i logged in 13th...now im 5th. and i was not attacked at all. people farmed eachother
what's your tree?
my is like this and dark fams feel good. i cant imagine how they feel on lvl70📊
my is 66 overall
wanna try some YOLO?
slee + 4 attacker (or 3 + 1 tank)
I think ive tried this one) idk i like to play with stag. to pull together than AOE
4 attacker?
Gloomie Cac A.Lynx Slee Relixx
with ebon is okay too, provide some interrupting
people use similar teams this days
number 1. fams r just too strong. my tanks dont leave
still have that 1 stall team
should be ez to climb that guy
Some 1 here got fam beyond 555 jellys?
Need to know what grade I need for bonding tree
wdym?
Bonding tree grade 60= u can give 555 jellys to ur Fa
6\10 in my top 10 have 500+ and 2 of them have 550+. one light team and 1 dark
not simple like that
vega got 66
in here i use this logic: cactus jumps diagonally, stag pulls, relix uses ability then a.lynx = dead opponent. was attacked 3 times - won them all
Yes. And next penalty?
no more, I guess
So I can give 600 jellys?
I only focus dark now. all the rest goes by itself
yeah, if u reach 90 dark tree
only good on FA, trash on GA
yeah, need to balance them a bit
to benefit granprix
I think 25 or 30 is okay for non-focus ele
thats 405 or 420 jellies
wow squibbly over sleppyhead??
wow this ur defense?
wonder ur awakening
also cool to see a normal fa team w.o toko
nm i see awakening now, scrolled up more.. all 9 and 10 nice..
world of RNGesus
1 of the RNGesus fck up
So sad I also got this useless toy
Hello guys is purrloiner good to put jellies? Or focus now more on premium jellies
220 tickets and no gloomie.. now 17 more to pity
more tickets from the Surprise Shop
(told u to buy those instant xD)
Ye 🥹
here we go
2x 50%
Wow

Any thoughts on the upcomming fams? I know x-mas one, but not sure if they r gonna announce another one in december or so
there is this icy mouse that most likely will be added for x-mas and there is this green frog (f.lynx clone)
260tix + 7k gems
Polarin? dont think it can be sold alone
it might come with another, I guess
a9 100% or double awakening to 10?
there is nothing to announce in winer
or stuck at A8 
they will sell sage raindeer
that happened to me last time!
another joke fam that cant crack our wallet
well in PvP Nost is OP. Polarin is great on FA
a perfect matchup, 3 range at the back, thats why
yum yum
What about this one 😃
Nothing much special about this familiar coz it’s just like any other rare familiar other then atk ones just was wondering been a support familiar why it’s doing such a DMG ..
erm..., this support got dmg skill. mostly any other dont. thats it, I guess
other potentials are Dokey and Raindeer
Dokey is single target, while Raindeer is AOE but melee (right? not sure about the raindeer)
ooh, forget Balloon, but it not rare
33%
Damn bro share some
Hi guys. I havent played in a while and I heard squibby got an update. Did it made it stronger ?
Korea, yes
hai, you guys think a rare HP toy is better than a 6* def toy for a Boar? other 2 toys are a rare 6* def and a 6* boar toy
no, 6sr/6s specific is the best for defense fam.
however... still using boar 
F2p life, also doesn't help that I missed dururu and sunshine event, so my teams for grandprix are rather crippled
Can feel your pain. I played through dururu but stupid game only gave me a8. I really wanted to use that dururu in fam arena back then.
They should include event familiars in their anniversary pull events. XD
As for your question, id rather put the rare feather on a melee dps for survival + that bit of aspd for damage.
Provided that you dont have 6s specific toys on that melee atk fam, or you really just want it to survive longer.
If you want it to survive more, put rare vests if you want. Otherwise, use higher star rating gloves, specific being better but a general 6* is a bit better than a 5* specif glove for example.
Rare feathers seems to be only better for shrimp in some situations when you need faster healing but less healing per auto.
Yeah. My dino is currently using 2 rare pink jackets and a rare feather so it can survive and yeet the bull to the backline.
Unfortunately, adding aspd to the mix doesn't make dino's casting animation go faster.
Not it doesn't. Not like your character. Only thing that changes casting time (not speed) is awakening
Yup. Tried it, didn't see any diff. So i just put it in front and use frontline reinforce for more def.
WOW
very good
better
I also got cactus on gloomi banner but i have it already a10
How to def vs that guy with sleepy? We r fighthing for top1.🥹 and he got my counter ( another cat).
silence debuff might help
Stagthorn to succ cat or relix in?
Cat is faster
So Free relix... 1 more to a9 
Can we get a rerun already 
u mean black friday egg, not thanksgiving
maybe 66% is enough

Not taking chances lol
no
A10 relixx it is. Hopefully from hatch.
Speaking of which, snapdragon and gloomie are hatchable now.
or the fortune cookies
Yeah. I should just jelly them up. But im out of 4s dark fams. I dont want to resort to using 3s whambats.
If only i could dismantle bougie lol
or that BF bundle of dark equipment chest + egg is okay
Or hobgoblin for that matter.
Cant seem to hatch dark 4s fams lately. I always get light and water.
Well u can get another one =20$
After 13 days we can get x6 cookies (3 free and another 3 by 1500 diamonds) 2 cookies a week + the 20$ pack =11 and u just need 10 to buy the rare egg
Oh right the free cookie is also weekly. That works.
Yep
Hahah thanks
Fruit lv - min Bonding tree lv requirement
45 - 40
60 - 60
80 - 75
definitely not me 
I do recall mentioning this topic to warn everyone about the wall they will face 
45-40
Guys next week i will be ending up my dsrk element to 555 jellys so I need to chooice between sparkee,sunshine,cat a6 or hipo a7,shiryu,splisher to 435-450 jellys. Any advise?
Hello!
I'd greatly appreciate any help in Familiar Arena setting up an attacker and defensive team
I'm a little lacking right now so any help would greatly be appreciated! I'm working to get my bonding tree to level 40 as it's only 35 right now but I'll be there soon!
Apologies for the bad pictures, my computer screenshot software isn't cooperating right now 
Also it doesn't have to be perfect!! Just a couple wins would be nice sometimes
(Familiars organized by CP)
Cat a6 300 jelly x3 6* toys, sunshine a10 good toys 390 jellys,sparkee 360 jellys,general 6* toys, hipo a7 390 jellys with good toys and almost a8,shiryu a10 with 390 jellys and good toys,splisher a10 300 jellys x3 pink rare toys.
to your frequently use
IMO, Sunshine and Hippo
Both boonding at 25
thats 405, right?
Ye
do it for the record cp too
Its for GP
this
how ppl around u doing?
from what u got, your defend has to be a stall team
u lack of decent attacker
Good
and why Toko still A9, get it 10 asap. (ez from weekly side story)
push ebon to at least +300 or max it
your main tank will be dururu ebon or sunshine (pick 2)
your backline will consist of bunnybot squirrel with toko or shrimp
bond powers go for front rein + atk down + shield or silence or your choice
did it rollback?
what rollback?
Familiar arena points
hmm...
check yours
there are some ppl complaining about it
😦
thanks @shell grail I did submit a ticket.. hoping this get fixed asap...
I think so.
It's probably because of those rollback maintenance. Happened before but for lava / team arena.
we did submit a ticket, all we can do now is pray
OT, but I submitted a ticket too for t7 auto-clear and they acknowledged it is an issue/bug. Hopefully they fix it before our next event day lol
pain.
Gloomqueak
this thanksgiving traveling merchant event gave me a lot of dark fruit, loved it
true. i wish they put those things in rotation for muse.
the other "free stuff" are useless more often than not.
My other concern was losing a whopping 50 points
and this is the recent match from the 2 tickets... Which only gave me a total of 12 points 
oh well! I guess this is okay! better than nothing... 
any news on what the next banner is?
wait for next Monday post
THIS IS BOARSHIT
Got another pink jacket. Getting tired of these jackets...
better than mine
If it was gonna be generic stuff, at least give me mittens. XD
Sooo... decision time. Should I aim for a10 relixx (currently a9), or just save the eggs and start building up for stagthorn? (Currently a1).
Have 2 of those monthly eggs + 2 event eggs.
A10 Relix w/ 33% then build stag 
2 from event go for Relixx so u need 1 more for 100%
the monthly one go for Stag ofc
Yeah im waiting for the free fortune cookies on monday so i can buy the 10 cookie rare egg.
A10
Time to lv another element
Someone here is using this guy with high jellys? 400-500? Just want to know if it's worth
special role
niche if you're targeting their main dps.
(target highest atk)
like kill gloomie on sight
Ask @cerulean mortar he used it a lot in Gp
Ok ty
But gloomie skill first
no, hog jump first



