Familiar Arena QA

[shell grail]

choose what u think its best

to suit u

[gritty grotto]

Yes i will thankyou sir!

[timid rivet]

6* rare generic jacket vs 5* familiar specific jacket? Is -4% skill damage taken good enough to make it better?

[waxen spoke]

idk i think no one ever tested toys) because its too boring lol

i crafted 4 toys today and they are so gaaaaay!💩

[timid rivet]

I'm unlucky with toys, crafted 9 rare 6* and all are generic

[waxen spoke]

with rare generic u get 10% def and 4% damage reduction from skills. I believe that 10% def blocks 10% of normal skill damage

but doesnt reduce 10% of the ultimate skill damage

it reduces 4% of skills damage. Def is the stat and damage reduction is sort of an active ability

10% def + 4% of skill damage reduction is not 14% of overall damage reduction

IMO - rare general jacket is better than 5 star personal jacket, but worse than 6 star personal non rare and rare

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail what do you think, mate?

[shell grail]

same

[timid rivet]

ok thanks

I was thinking the same but was not 100% sure

[shell grail]

okay, Im done with this ss

pheww

[shell grail]

but sadly, I didnt get any vest for testing

my 3x crafted rare are all gloves

[waxen spoke]

i be;ieve that 6st personal gloves are better than rare general gloves by the same reason

[shell grail]

not sure about gloves

but I can test that

when Im free

[waxen spoke]

sweet, will be great! but for now i think that 6st personal is good for fams like puffu, kona. 6 rare gen are fine for the rest fams, like suriyu, mie, cactus and etc. I can be wrong, but thats what i think

[shell grail]

rare general glove is better than 6s personal

tested by A7 Relixx +390

[waxen spoke]

its better with ult and normal damage?

[shell grail]

both

[waxen spoke]

hm...same can apply to the vests

[shell grail]

I dont think the same for vest

I still believe 6s personal is better than rare gen vest

[waxen spoke]

ok i have this guy and i have 2 rare general vests

i can swap personal non rare to a rare gen vest

and see the results

[shell grail]

I still believe 12% dmg taken reduction is better than 10% def + 4% skill taken reduction

[waxen spoke]

Same, but logicvize, 10def+4red is the same as 10atk+4inc

thats why i was curious on how do gloves work. let me see the vest

[shell grail]

I tested by equip 1 at a time

u might need other fam to test, i guess

Whipper's skill has dmg reduction buff

[waxen spoke]

ill test on a bull

rare vest is bad

rare general vest i mean

[shell grail]

so, glove can be use old suggestion. more star = better

[waxen spoke]

with 6st personal non rare vest i had 228 damage from hit and with 6st general rare its 237. im not taking those hits that dealt 180ish damage, only 228-258 ratio

i can test gloves too because i have personal, non personal rares and 6 general

[shell grail]

yes pls

[waxen spoke]

what i did i just swapped 1 item

with 666 i see 902dmg-920 on a.lynx

i swapped one toy for 6 gen rare and i have 966 dmg now

so 6 rare gen is better than 6 personal non rare

[shell grail]

hmm

oh... glove, yes

[waxen spoke]

he hits hard

time to test 5 personal and 6 gen rare vest

i have this guys and another rare vest, so ill swap 1 toy to another

lol, 5st personal is slightly better than 6 gen rare vest

[shell grail]

RIP

[waxen spoke]

like literally numbers seem to be way better, but time that took for my fam to die was not that much different

numbers with rare vest were like 430 and with 5 st pers were like 380, but time that was taken for me to die was 1.5 seconds lower. its not a big deal i must say

[waxen spoke]

i suggest u to combine rare feathers and vests to roll for personal rares

u dont need any instruments to roll it

lol i fused it for puffu toy

[timid rivet]

oh good to know, ill reroll my 6* rare vests

[waxen spoke]

the only place u can use this 6 gen rare vest is for mite, kona and other melee fams to make them stronger , but IMO attackers must go for max DPS

[tired mist]

Someone in my kingdom is using rare vests on arach in his defense lineup so it doesn't die right away. He's top 3 in our server. Top 2 have already +510 fams 💀

[clear rover]

I like using Rare general toy (Rare feather/vest/mitten) because it acts as multiplier for your specific raw stat (ATK or HP or DEF).

The Rare general Toys is good as long as it will align with your objectives. That's why I agree with @tired mist of mentioning someone in his server uses Rare Vest on Arachnes for it to survive the first wave skill.

Since I still don't have perfect toys for most of the familiars that I use.
I go something like this;
Example: Hippocampus
Rare Hippocampus Gloves

• Rare Mitten
• Rare Mitten

but if ever I get lucky and got another Hippocampus Gloves. I'd definitely go for 2x Rare Hippocampus Gloves + Rare Mitten.

-While we still don't have Rare specific toy for our familiars... it's best to use Rare general toy for the raw stats.
except support familiars because Support familiars should and always equipped with their specific hairpin toy for the lower cooldown of skill or heal rate.

[waxen spoke]

U basically said the same thing as I did "the only place u can use this 6 gen rare vest is for mite, kona and other melee fams to make them stronger...". By stronger I mean less squishy.

Hairpins for supports 100%.

I currently have 5 six star toys that I don't need. I need 200 instruments to craft rares. If I get general vests and feather, I'll use 3 toys to combine into one, like I did the other day. I have 1 spare rare vest that I don't need

[lusty cargo]

is there a benefit to combining rare toys ? or nah

[shell grail]

a chance to get another useful one

[lusty cargo]

so its the same on combining normal 6 star toys then? no benefit at all?

[shell grail]

wdym?

• combine normal 6s to get rare one
• combine rare to get another rare

[shell grail]

there

[lusty cargo]

understood

arigathanks

[shell grail]

@thick turret post it here

[thick turret]

guys, i want to improve my grandpix ranking, through this 5 season i never reach top 256. Probably with any advice from you guys for my familiar composition team, I can qualify for top 256. Thanks in advance!

[clear rover]

Lets try to fix your team later because I'm still at work as of the moment.

Usually, if the resources are limited(jellies, toys, and awakening of familiars). Then, we need to compromise 1 team in order to secure or rather at least increase the win rate of the other 2 team.

It will be like
Team 1 (weak/bait)
Team 2 (best)
Team 3 (average)

Or

Team 1 best
Team 2 average
Team 3 weak

[tired mist]

Imo, you need to fit burst familiars with your Stag instead of 3 healers. Like Stag + 3 attackers + 1 healer. Also, I don't think a3 is enough for relix to be usable. Oro, Mite or Dino would do more.
Also, Sunshine skill is really good. Not sure how a7 would perform but it's worth a try since he's already jellied-up (if you have good toys).
At this point, I would use my monthly eggs to push Stag further or get some Hippo. Hippo fits really well in a Stag team but a4 isn't enough.

[thick turret]

Alright, resource are limited 😂 I already rearrange 2/3 strongest team composition to increase chance of winning on gprix

[thick turret]

Yes sir my familiars are lack of dps/burst. Sure a4 hippo/puffu not enough at this moment. I am planning to transfer my boar to mite and continue jelly-ing till 360++.

I guess stag molten kona shrimp mite should be enough for team 1?
And for team 2 full stall team : ebon flutterby toko squibby disbelief/splisher?

Or add 1 damager like alynx/suiryu on team 2

[tired mist]

Team 1 : whatever
Team 2 : molten, stag, aurora, shrimp, kona with elemental, backline and hidden fragments
Team 3 : ebon, sunshine, squibby, toko, disbeleaf/splisher with frontline, attack weakening and fruit of protection

[thick turret]

Alright, i will try and see for the rest of this season. TY sir

[timid rivet]

Any way to make my teams little better? I feel like my bond powers arent right if nothing else. For example power transfer makes hippo hit as hard as mite (very rare). I know this is not best teams I can make.

[tired mist]

3rd team might not that good. If so, switch sunshine or a healer for suryiu I guess

[tired mist]

You don't have enough familiars with jellies. Start getting high awakening fams to 300. Skip Boogie. Not worth it. Don't invest premium jellies into boar. Boar is bad. Get them to lvl 30 also. You need the stats

[timid rivet]

Ok thanks, i only kept boogie because dont know who to replace him with

[tired mist]

You have splisher and disbeleaf a10, upgrade the one you have the best toys for. Personally, I like Disbeleaf a bit more.

[clear rover]

believe in disbeleaf ❤️

You should also invest on Dururu!~ I can see you have Awaken 8. It is usable! My Dururu is also awaken 8 and I'm using it ❤️

[lusty cargo]

6 star specific atk mitten or rare mitten?

[tired mist]

Scroll up

[rich sage]

is this guy... usable at awaken 6 though? it just i get his toy again

now he get complete toys

but my sparkee literally use all the general toys... sigh. idk perhaps at this rate i get all rare for this rat

and what kind of team i can use this guy in?

i wanna try him against hippo to distract hippo though as not to kill my mite just yet, but he just lowly awaken 6 at this pooint

[shell grail]

he sure can distract hippo

[tired mist]

Good luck on this last day of GP rankings people!

[tired mist]

Dururu disrupt hippo first skill but most of the time die to it or the second one. If you know your opponent's positioning, you can make him jump on toko and, sometimes when that happens, toko uses his skill on himself which opens the door to killing frontline.

[shell grail]

captured before disaster

[clear rover]

It is usable even at awaken 6. Dururu is so versatile because it's perfect being the meat shield for the team. (in any most of team)

The issue for the awaken 6 = Skill cooldown and Raw stats (less tanky but usable).

Yes, you are correct with your plan to counter hippo (and ebon, relixx, gloomie, auroralynx). You are very lucky to get rare Dururu specific jacket!~ with that, you will be able to survive skill DMG from water element familiars such as Hippo, Suiryu. (Increase in survival %)

I'm not sure what are your other familiars, but I'll assume you have Stagthorn and Hippocampus.

You can set up like this:
Dururu
Stagthorn (Initiator, Tank. 40% Replaceable)
Shrimpaler (main healer)
Hippocampus (main Damager)
Ebon Taurex (Initiator, Tank. 70% Replaceable)
--You can replace for additional Familiar that can do DPS (Dino, mite, oroboros) or another healer(Toko, Disbeleaf) for sustain. **Stagthorn is important to snipe the backline enemy familiars (healers) **

[rich sage]

Omg! Thank you for the details info you provided 🥺

and yes! I do, but the only one i have only stag at a6, and squib at a6 as well sadly. (Those guys are from eggs) Else i dont have any rare fam best only the cat at a3.

My main dmg dealer instead of the hippo i use sparkee and mite only, mite have all specific 6 star toys, while sparkee 2 6 star general and 1 6 star rare, not yet lucky with his toys yet :((

[clear rover]

A6 squibb is really usable as long as you have good toys equipped on it!
As for your free monthly rare eggs... I recommend you focus getting Stagthorn.

[rich sage]

From this i was testing dururu at a6 against like a9 or a10 hippo without coplete 6 star personal toys, kinda safe to say that rat can survive more than i was expecting

The top 50 in my server rn is very much invested in hippo and rarely use sui now so no focused dmg like sui, only the aoe one from hippo which is the main menace i face now

Sparke kinda fast to die despite he is like 390 or so?

My team consisted of sun, (instead of ebon cuz i have complete 6 star toy for sun) then, sparke, mite, stag and shrimp for sustain in attacking

[rich sage]

Gotcha! I will start focusing on the deer next instead of squib~

[clear rover]

true! Sparkee is squishy... but Sparkee is scary when left alone...

[rich sage]

For real he can solo literal sun with buff

[clear rover]

anyway, I'll send you a clip of Dururu jumping but this match I experimented with Penguicorn

[rich sage]

Thank you really for the help!

[rich sage]

Atm im in the juicy but on edge spot in fam atena… before with the help of vegapunk gittaron? Sorry i dont have russian keyboard so thats the best i can manage, i can reach top 100, but now literally often times i ended up at rank 31 or 34 on the end of week 😭 often times cannot attack cuz mite and sparkee both always die with one hit from hippo smh

[shell grail]

almost fcked up so scary

[clear rover]

You will see Ebon charge at nothing but sad to say Relixx was able to cast skill first~.. Anyway, no big deal about that! Since it is same timing when relixx and Dururu activate skills~ As for other good part.. Dururu is faster to skill at Auroralynx and Hippo.

[clear rover]

Yea look at the time! HAHAHAHAH 0:02

[shell grail]

hippo is not the best at DPSing, TBH

[rich sage]

This looks interesting on how penguincorn able to cast skill… i usually send the penguin to bonding tree-

[rich sage]

This soooo close

[clear rover]

Well we can only rely to the free monthy eggs XD It may be the best but we need Hippo AHAHAHHAHA

[shell grail]

Penguin is great against multiple range dps backline

or even can delay the healer

[rich sage]

That time ebon first skill wasted… i kinda grasp abit on where to place that dururu but i think at a6 it perhaps gonna get yeeted first by ebon than able to charge to back first time

[shell grail]

but the negative side is he did literally nothing in DPS term

[rich sage]

My plan is more to the let dururu be meatshield so my sparkee and mite can solo the front liners while stag be pulling them healers to the front

[clear rover]

I also have sparkee match but this time no Dururu but paired it with Whipper

Free hit sparkee in this match XD

[rich sage]

I will have to try that penguinhmm… sadly for the longest time been feedin to the tree 😭😭

[clear rover]

Pengui lives matter

[rich sage]

Tree lives also matter-

[rich sage]

Oh wow

That snap snap really good at keeping ebon in place

[clear rover]

Sparkee Free hit ❤️

I also have another one but in this upcoming video.. I got lucky Sparkee didn't die... (almost melt tho)

[rich sage]

One question! Does sparkee hit “enemies in its range” or focused to one enemy every 3 charge? Im still bit confused on that part

[clear rover]

range

more like a small circle around him

[rich sage]

This onee, even sparkee faced with sun literally almost die like that oftentimes indeed

[clear rover]

It got hit by Sunshine it damaged 1/5 of HP

but sparkee almost died because of "Relixx skill"

To clearly answer your question earlier.. You can see in the video the small circle around Sparkee (every 3-charge basic attack)

For clear video, start or replay at 0:11 and you will see the lightning circle around sparkee around 0:12-0:13

[shell grail]

post your all fams here, and wait for the respond

[clear rover]

You can post your current 3 team line ups + showing your Familiar inventory and would really make it easier to help you if you can also provide the Toys of the Familiars you are currently using or candidates.

THIS IS OPTIONAL INFO but this will make it easier to identify the candidate familiars and potential familiars that we can use.
Toy Format sample: Familiar 6R / 6' / 6gm or 6Rgg
Mite 6R / 6' / 6Rgm
6R = Rare 6 star Mite Gloves (Specific)
6Rgm = Rare 6 star General Mittens
6Rgf = Rare 6 star General Feathers
6RgJ= Rare 6 star General Jacket
6' = Regular 6 star Mite Gloves
6gm = Regular 6 star General Mittens
6gf = Regular 6 star General Feather
6gJ = Regular 6 star General Jacket

[west pike]

I would post it but the game is on maintenance but i can send it later

But the fams that are upgraded +300

The only fams that i dont have good toys are Tarakona Birdle and Oroboros

And i have some 6* Toys box to be selected on my inv too

So if u want u can show me how would be the best 3 line ups and toys that u think its the best and i would get the toys later

But if u prefer after the maintenance i can send u all the infos

[clear rover]

Team 1 (Average)
Hog-goblin or Purrloiner (would be nice if it's Dururu because its tankier)
Sunshine
Penguicorn
Shrimpaler
-Free slot- (can be another healer or DPS or initiator)

Team 2 (Best)
Disbeleaf (replaceable)
Mite
Toko
Suiryu
Ebon Taurex

Team 3 (Bait stall team)
Any of the remaining from the familiar candidates:
Splisher
Molten Lion
Thumbelemur
Sparkee
Oroboros
Tarakona
Byrde

Usually, your team can go like;
Team 1 - best team
Team 2 - average team
Team 3 - bait stall team
or
Team 1 - bait stall team
Team 2 - best team
Team 3 - average

I can't guarantee that this is the best line up base from your familiar inventory because the outcome of the match relies to your familiar toys + elemental level in your bonding tree for raw stats + awakening of each familiar and last but not least enemies' line up.

@west pike As for Oroboros being at the back of Mite have higher chance to erase enemy that is in their path. (Compatibility rate is high)

[rich sage]

Ah, now that u mentioned it… ure right, i didnt see well but apparently relix skill reached the sparkee but good thing sparkee is bit buff there

Thank you @clear rover for the advices! It really helps! Imma try build the rat to max jellie first, and ask soon later hereee, hopefully that can solve a bit of the hippo problem yes

[shell grail]

@clear rover same group bro

[clear rover]

We are so unlucky to be in the same group as Mazzard

[shell grail]

atleast he's on the other side

[clear rover]

Oh well life goes on wahahaha

[shell grail]

but u and me might face each other in the next round if I can make it

[shell grail]

wait, what!?

[fossil gazelle]

yea, it already has its toy

ig that confirms whos the next familiar lol

[shell grail]

yeah, kinda

[shell grail]

hey @gaunt thunder, see that

and I also found it on the combination result list

[gaunt thunder]

thank you

[shell grail]

that's a huge leak (bug)

4 and 5 star as well

[gaunt thunder]

they done goof like how they leaked equipment trading in the most recent video

[clear rover]

We will make it! Just believe in our familiar 😂 and if don't. Well it's all good hahahahaha

By the way, good thing Cactanine banner is back.. My wallet can take a break from spending wahhahaa

[clear rover]

Also nice! By the way, I suggest to put sparkee at the back and mite to the front.

[west pike]

Btw the toys are not a big problem

i still got the selection 6* toys

[clear rover]

So if ever you equip it with buff backline reinforcement, it will greatly help your sparkee to proc more of its basic skill damage

[west pike]

yep but i was using on the first cuz of the shrimpaler

because hes going to heal more

[clear rover]

Or you can swap your thumbelemur with the shrimpaler

And put your shrimp with sparkee in same team 😁

[west pike]

yep thats what i thought

and thinking here ure right haha

I'm stupid for not doing this sooner

@clear rover Which one is better ?

Its the sunshine toy right?

[clear rover]

Nah! It's normal since shrimpaler is so good that it can be in any team

[clear rover]

For sunshine? I don't get the question 😅

[west pike]

Yep

The Regular Sunshine 6* item vs Rare 6* General Jacket

[clear rover]

Well both are good since they have different effect

Rare jacket or just a jacket = is a multiplier for your raw Stat DEF %

Since it's rare it has additional effect of skill dmg reduction %

As for the specific = it is for the overall DMG reduction % which also relies to your raw Stat DEF %

[shell grail]

go for 6s spe

[clear rover]

What I do is I leave 1 specific toy + 2 rare general toy if I don't have other choice 😂

[shell grail]

i'll personally go for 3x 6s specific vest even I have 2 rare general vest

[west pike]

The last question for the Splisher and Mite

Which itens should i use on them

[clear rover]

Yep specific toy is better but there will be cases like if you are after raw stats

Wherein, rare feather or 6s feather can be important in some cases. To have more synergy with the healers (shrimpaler)

[west pike]

Gotcha

[clear rover]

As for the jacket.. Meh 😂 only acts as multiplier for Def

[clear rover]

Splisher = is a support familiar and highly recommended to go for specific toy for all supports

[shell grail]

mite can be vary based on his role

[clear rover]

As for Mite, I'd go for specific toy or mittens but in some cases where mite needed a jacket or feather to survive for the 2nd wave of skills

[west pike]

Specif toy or the mittens

if the function is DPS

[shell grail]

same tier go for spec

else use the better tier

[west pike]

Ok

btw where u guys from ?

[clear rover]

Pyro crux

[west pike]

Nahh i mean the country

[clear rover]

Taiwan

[shell grail]

Thailand

[west pike]

On asia

Where u guys have more whales ?

Japan korea ... ?

[shell grail]

jp/kr have their own server

on Asia of global, I would say Thai whales

[west pike]

Hm

are there many cheaters too on Asia ?

[clear rover]

They exist but I see improvements 😁 the devs are working on it

[shell grail]

less than before

[west pike]

Seriously lol

[shell grail]

I would say 1 out of 10 on my Lava run or near 0

[west pike]

Its been a while that i dont see a post "Response to Unauthorized Program Usage"

[shell grail]

maybe they stuck with the 7/14 days restriction

[west pike]

U guys know when its going to have the ticket to change the server?

[shell grail]

no idea

[west pike]

anyway thx for the tips guys 😄

appreciate it!

[clear rover]

You're welcome!~ it's my pleasure to help 😁

[shell grail]

GL further

[clear rover]

I haven't online yet but Oscarrr told me the result 😂

I won and moving to the next

[shell grail]

you or me will win, GL

prob u

[clear rover]

I haven't checked yet hahaha

Still at work 😩

Super busy got buried with paperworks in the office

[shell grail]

what's time is it in Taiwan now? 3AM?

still at work? damn

[clear rover]

2:12

Am

[clear rover]

I'll go home around 6am

[clear rover]

I think you will win.
Team 1 Sunshine RNG
Team 2 prolong match will be in your favor

You will probably win by first 2 rounds.

((You have elemental advantage in all 3 rounds))

[topaz sandal]

Please help with 3 team set-up with bonding tree buffs. Totally clueless about team synergy T_T

[clear rover]

To answer and help you with your statement; "clueless about team synergy". We need to know "the" familiar and it's skill first and of course the compatibility with other familiars.

High maintenance familiar are the familiars that badly needs protection and initiator because they are glass canon.
High maintenance familiars are: (base from the photo you sent)
Dinoceros
Arachnes
They need initiator to make an opening for them or protect them from being interrupted.
Dinoceros' skill can deal great damage to nearby enemies but the Area of effect is.. average or rather below average. It needs a good initiator or needs to really be close to multiple enemy familiars to maximize it's potential.
Example scenario would be; Dinoceros teamed up with Stagthorn. Wherein, Stagthorn is the initator that pulls the backline enemy familiars to where Dinoceros is.

**Awakening, Jellies, Toys are very important. **

High awakened Non-rare familiars can be better than zero or low awaken rare familiars.
((Is it okay if I ask you to show your familiar inventory? because you provided exactly 15 familiars for us to set up.. and I don't want you limiting yourself to only these. I believe and hoping that you still have other candidate familiars that we can use))

[topaz sandal]

Thanks Glioca, I've only these familiars! T_T oh it's not 15 though, have to click the picture for the full view of my 27 little ones

[clear rover]

oh weird my discord app only showed 2 picture visible. I didn't notice the next button damn my bad

[shell grail]

we'll see

[clear rover]

I'm already happy with my win in round of 16 whatever happens, happens. hahahahah

[shell grail]

u won, I got spoiled by the mailbox

[clear rover]

what?

we still have 8 mins?

[shell grail]

yeah, got spoiled

[clear rover]

I didn't know that they send reward in advance?

Now, I'm curious how I won.. ,maybe I got lucky and didn't get sunshine RNG'ed

[shell grail]

2-0, prob

[clear rover]

hmm might be 1-0-1

[shell grail]

my 2nd team is weakest

[clear rover]

no but the highest HP bracket team wins

and my only DPS for that is my hippo which might not be enough to outdamage the heal of your Disbeleaf and Squibby

anyway, I'll check it once the clock hits 2

[shell grail]

2-0

[clear rover]

I didn't get debuffed by Sunshine

as for round 2, your Dino went upward near stagthorn and got canceled by my Hippo.

[clear rover]

This is just a draft:

Team 1: Elemental Synergy
Dururu
--(pref; ranged familiar initiator)
Shrimpaler
--(pref; decent damage dealer)
Mite

Team 2
Team 3

Your candidate Familiars: (this will make it easier to choose on who to deploy)
Disbeleaf a10 (must have good specific toys)
Oroboros a10
Suiryu a10
Sunshine a8
Thumbelemur a8
Squibby a5
Dinoceros a7
Ebon Taurex a7 (highly suggest to feed more jellies)
Hog-goblin a9
Toko a10 (but need to feed jellies)
Molten lion a6
Stagthorn a3

[shell grail]

@clear rover, GL vs Mazzard

[clear rover]

Hahaha not gonna stress about it 😂 I even voted for Mazzard Ahahahahaha

Look at the jelly resources 😂 unless miracle happens

[clear rover]

Look I didn't bother shuffling. Just switch team sequence hahaha

[topaz sandal]

Disbeleaf has 5* specific toys and I'll work on jellies as suggested thanks!

[clear rover]

@topaz sandal video of my old match 🙂 To vouch that disbeleaf can be trusted hahaha

[rich sage]

Dis not beleaf should be believed in

[clear rover]

I got rare sunshine toy from the consolidation prize random rare toy box

[rich sage]

But fr disbeleaf is one of the most surprisin one, because either u can actually wipe that spiky ball out of existence, or you gonna get taunted when it almost ded and full health in a second

[rich sage]

Damn tanky sunn

[clear rover]

I guess this can survive from dark familiars with rare specific toys haha

@shell grail I won round 1 but lose 2 and 3 hahaha

against Mazzard

[rich sage]

Sun said “i fear nothing cuz i shine the brightest”

[clear rover]

I'll start my operation balloon this upcoming season

[rich sage]

Wipe out the relixxxx!!!

[clear rover]

haha can't XD I didn't get lucky with the auroralynx

going for dodge team XD

I can slowly build this now for this upcoming season

[topaz sandal]

Disbeleaf is tanky enough to put in front?

[clear rover]

With a decent bonding tree earth element

[spring forum]

Yes

With 400 jellies and ssr toys or normal 6 star specific toys disbeleaf is pretty good unless you don’t go against heavy fire comp

[clear rover]

As for me, I got lucky with tons of Earth evolution fruits... thats why my Earth is kind of ahead from my other elements in bonding tree.

[spring forum]

What’s your earth like

In one week I’ll do light 450 jellies and dark is heading over 450 jellies and rest is going to be 400 jellies above

I have plenty of fruits right now

[clear rover]

I also want to say that "Basic or regular familiars" with high awaken or complete awaken (a10) can give better result than rare familiars with low awaken or a3 below... due to skill cooldown difference and raw stats.

[spring forum]

What you mean. You mean in gp or fam arena

[clear rover]

I'm at work but I believe it's around 45+

[spring forum]

That’s good enough for now

[clear rover]

can be both in fam arena and GP. ((but of course, I'm not saying all basic familiars)) hahaha

[spring forum]

Truly to shine in gp now at least we need bunch of good familiars and 450 jellies

I’m also working on it

In like 4 to 5 months most of the top players will be with 600 jellies

Already some are with 550 jellies but mainly on dark element

For some reason

[clear rover]

in ASE - Pyro
I've seen around 480+ to 500 i think thats our jelly range for now. Hahahaha

[clear rover]

Yes, they invested on dark element because of Relixx, Arachnes, Ebon combo.

[spring forum]

I need to get my hands on arachness

On my old account by just pulling on random banners I got like 7 copies of arachness

Specially when I pull for a10 relixx

[shell grail]

@clear rover Mazzard or Sunny?

[clear rover]

Mazzard

Wait I haven't checked yet hahaha I just answered immediately because I'm bias 😂

I'll confirm my answer again after I check both team

[clear rover]

@shell grail well.. I'll go for SuNny

Probably the result will be SuNny 0 1 1

[shell grail]

that YOLO 2nd team

[clear rover]

It's worth it since he has Petal

[clear rover]

@shell grail T_T Sunny's ebon lost at round 3

I should've gone for mazzard hahaha

[shell grail]

Sphex VS Mazzard, end of the road for Mazzard?

[clear rover]

Hahaha mind changed of vote list to Oscarrr hahahaha

[shell grail]

ez for Oscarr

[clear rover]

I'll check your list later

[rough sequoia]

is cinder glider good? kinda wanna pull for pve but wondering if the revive is decent for arena

[shell grail]

PVE for fire deck
on the Arena, it brought new ability, which quite annoy on stall team

[woeful wing]

Doesn't seem too worth, better to wait for the sleepy light dude

[topaz sandal]

My current main team is
Dururu Sunshine (front). Shrimpaler, Mite, Sparkee (back); with frontline reinforcement and elemental synergy.

Is this ok?

[clear rover]

@shell grail I'm sorry I forgot to reply to your question last night XD been so busy at work~ sphex won

[clear rover]

looks ok!~ but I was hoping if you can make your other DPS a ranged type.

because we don't want our team to get wiped out because of AOE skill in the middle...

[clear rover]

If for Defense, I dont think its a good idea.(Familiar arena)

Dururu - good for distracting and interrupting enemies.
Sunshine - depends on RNG but it's really good to take chances.
Shrimpaler - best "consistent" healer.
Mite - good for crowd control. It is DPS with skill knockback
Sparkee - glass canon (needs protection).

imagine the scenario wherein, your familiars behavior.
Dururu will jump at enemy backline.
Sunshine will go to the middle.
Mite will also go to the middle.
Sparkee will also go to the middle.

Shrimpaler is safe at the backline. Free hitting and healing.

What if your enemy has "Relixx, Hippo, or Gloomie or any AOE skiller". Your Dururu may create space for you to kill enemy frontline by jumping at the back and tanking the "1st wave skill" but after that, Dururu will jump back for the "2nd wave skill". Which has high chance to jump near your team familiars. Worst, incoming of the 2nd wave skill enemy relixx or hippo or gloomie will skill on the area where your "melee familiars" gathered.

but if "offense side". Yep! this line up might work depending on the enemy line up~

[fossil gazelle]

Does Ursa Glacier counter Crab o' Lantern?

Or does the crab skill effects get applied because its a special kind of cc, "morph"?
Edit: yea, the ursa fully counters it, i looked it up

[shell grail]

@clear rover

[clear rover]

Oscarrr for me and will win probably at 2nd and 3rd round

[shell grail]

bias

[clear rover]

[spring forum]

So no use of crab

[waxen spoke]

uh, havent been here for a while

ive lost in finals. but this time was my 1st time in finals

ive never won in group

[shell grail]

gratz

[shell grail]

what do u think? @waxen spoke

[waxen spoke]

sphex will win

[shell grail]

interesting

[little ruin]

Someone help me create 3 teams for the next event. it's quite difficult to get a good rating

[clear rover]

@shell grail Sphex won

no 6* for me T_T

Whipper died a hero XD

Oscarrr almost win but RNG was not on his side.

[shell grail]

yeah RNG hit hard

[clear rover]

Sphex got bestowed by the RNG-Deity XD Round 1 and Round 2... what more for Round 3 with Sunshine deployed in it.

[waxen spoke]

I told u sphex would win

[clear rover]

can't help it~ I'm bias HAHAHA was expecting for 0 1 1... because round 2, cacta is expected to jump at shrimpaler which will hit 4 familiars clustered near it.. killing arachnes and ursa... but oh well XD it was a good fight!~

[shell grail]

I told u. haha

[clear rover]

Better invest on Dururu!

[fluid brook]

Hello anyone available to help change my defense?

Currently running: Atk/Supp Weakening+Backline Reinf
Shrimp Byrde
Toko Arachnes
Ebon

Always loose to awk8+ Hippo teams even with +20k CP

[clear rover]

I don't know if you can provide your def match... video or match detail screenshot... but it's given that 3 of your familiars (Byrde, Arachnes, Ebon) will get hit by Hippo's skill.

My suggestion is.. you either replace your Byrde with "Sunshine" or "Dururu".

Sunshine = for that RNG debuff 50% accuracy that can make Hippo skill miss it's skill damage.

Dururu = for jumping. Which will interrupt and solo tank the enemy backline familiar's skill.

(Of course, you need to give jellies to your Dururu before you deploy it)

Don't worry about A7 Dururu because A7 is still usable. It's role is to distract and interrupt familiars. Especially, during 1st wave (beginning of the match where all will throw their first skill of the match)

So you have 3 options.

1st option
replace your Byrde with Sunshine

2nd option
replace your Byrde with Dururu but you need to feed jellies to it before you deploy it.

3rd option
replace your Byrde with Disbeleaf but you need to feed jellies to it before you deploy it.

@fluid brook

[spring forum]

Can anyone help me to make good comps for GP

[fluid brook]

Will try this for now. Need few more jellies before I have enough to +300 either Dururu or Disbeleaf

Just got rare hairpin as well hopefully itll help a bit

[shell grail]

better push ebon jellies up as well, GOAT of defense

[fluid brook]

Is toko shrimp still good for defense?

[fluid brook]

Noted... Will take a while before I can +450 Arachnes anyway need bonding tree lvl 45

[shell grail]

still good

[fluid brook]

I'm using ebon in atk as well +400 here we go... We'll see if the defenses improve this week

Thanks guys 🙂

[little ruin]

ok bro

[small basin]

i just got this, who is this????

[shell grail]

wut? u still got it

it should be fixed

LMAO

they told us they already fixed it

that belong to Sapdragon

prob new fam coming up next

https://forum.netmarble.com/enngb_en/view/6/14573

@small basin #2 on the fixed issues

send a support tickets if u need mats back

Hey @gaunt thunder, they lied to us. I still saw its toy on combination result list

[fluid brook]

wtf. combined for 2x rare just now. Guess I dodged a bullet

[shell grail]

fixed issue my arse

[waxen spoke]

RIP bro if u r not 🐳ing

I'm skipping that kid

I decided a7 awakening new squirrel

Out of resources for the upcoming one)

[spring forum]

This is future

It’s call future proof

[spring forum]

I was out of gp on first round from first match not even a strong opponent. So my comps don’t work so I need help

Who can help me !?

I like to have your ideas

💡

[shell grail]

prob RNG

[spring forum]

😭

[shell grail]

or their team counter u badly

still RNG

[spring forum]

Ya it counter a bit not like to a point I was sure I’ll loose I hope you understand what I mean

[shell grail]

I understand, just told u that it still RNGesus

[spring forum]

Could you help me @shell grail

[shell grail]

u can post your whole inventory here, there will be a help

[spring forum]

Okey let me

[shell grail]

actually, u can use your knowledge on FA.
but instead of 1 team, u need 3

or at least 2 strong teams

[spring forum]

Most of these familiars have one ssr toy some have 2

[shell grail]

show us your current GP teams

[clear rover]

Your team is somewhat good since we don't know who we are going to matched up with... but your team set up for your Team 3 (Purrloiner 4water team) will really be in danger when you are up against Earth.. Oroboros team ... Anyway, since it's a bait team with 2 healers... why not put Molten lion in it?

When it comes to jumping... I like Dururu because it can tank well!~ 2nd would be Cactanine because of the skill effect immune to dmg for at least 1 second. Anyway, since you invested in purrloiner its also good but I can't guarantee it will live longer than Dururu... (also, depends on the enemy team)

I haven't deployed my Rimu yet due to low awaken but.. your's is already awaken 6.. it should be usable right @shell grail ?

[shell grail]

I might replace cat with your Rimu on 3rd team

[shell grail]

should be, his 3rd team is too mono

but baiting team couldn't be 3rd

[clear rover]

Molten Lion can also be replaced by Rimu ❤️

[shell grail]

I might swap Sun and Stag, love the Ebon Sun combo

[clear rover]

We can agree that
Purrloiner and Molten lion are replaceable.

[shell grail]

stag can be a good synergy for Tarakona as well (can be good sync to Puffu too)

[spring forum]

Thank you very much I was also thinking of drop down purrlonier and cactanine in the same team coz def down in backline with cactanine could help a lot. My Rimu just got a6 and I have one additional copy it will be a8 or 9 before the gp for sure and it has 6 star toys so I’ll deploy it definitely. I want drop ebon Rimu relixx for elemental synergy buff but it would be bad if I go against lynx or a light comp. It did have ssr toys for Rimu or ebon at least it’s reasonable to go against backline light team. Also I’m planing to pull on Nost a10 when it comes and also gloomi if they do rerun the banner on Halloween.

Thank you guys

[clear rover]

Don't worry about the auroralynx if you want to have a team consist of 3 dark fams (Rimu relixx ebon). To temporary solve that problem... you can include "Dururu" as jumper in that team to distract and interrupt enemy backline(auroralynx).

[fluid brook]

With hidden ebon (meaning you can't reliably dodge ebon)

Is there any way to reliably Stag pull a Mid Backline squibby (w/ all range backline. Ex: Toko Squibby Shrimpaler backline)

All my attempts lead to it depending on RNGesus.

[clear rover]

well the good thing about Stagthorn getting hit by Ebon charge skill. It will only delay the skill of Stagthorn pull 🙂

if its Ebon front bottom.
You can try
Stagthorn front top and Dururu front bottom

You will see that Dururu will dodge Ebon's charge skill.

[fluid brook]

Yeah i don't mind getting hit by ebon. But my stag seems to actively avoid pulling Squibby (mid backline only).

The dude needs 3 pulls minimum

Only way to get mid back squibby is if one of the backline familiar is melee

[shell grail]

missing pull from Sunshine's debuff

[fluid brook]

No no no. Always pulls someone else. (Shrimp/toko/hippo)

Performance anxiety probably

[shell grail]

lucky u

[fluid brook]

Damn it so its pure rng then huh?

[clear rover]

Yes and no.
It also relies on the awakening which is the "raw stats"
We have ACC versus EVA

Let's say Stagthorn is A7 and the enemy have like A9 Squibby, A10 Toko, A10 Shrimpaler.

We can clearly see the difference in raw stats between our Stagthorn's ACC and our enemy target familiars' EVA... and since our Stagthorn is lower awakening than our enemy target familiars... Which will increase on having a miss pull by Stagthorn because raw stat of ACC is inferior to the enemy familiars' EVA (evasion) stat.
Worst, if you have enemy sunshine that Debuffs our Stagthorn (-ACC%) that will greatly affect the outcome.

That's why we also have Hullaballoon that have buff on allies "EVA" to increase the evasion. Which can make the enemy miss their basic attack or skill.

[fluid brook]

No no no. Sorry I messed up with the explanation somewhere.

The issue is purely based on positioning, is it possible to guarantee target squibby (not necessarily hit, that's RNG and I can accept that), my atk mostly relies on burst so a well timed squibby shield can wreck my whole team.

[clear rover]

oh ok I get it now..

Let's say Stagthorn is at Front bottom.
Stagthorn will be able to pull "diagonal upwards from stagthorn" which will target enemy's top back and mid back.

If Stagthorn is at Front Top.
Stagthorn will pull "diagonal" but downwards from Stagthorn. Which will target enemy's mid back and bottom back.

as long as it is farthest from him.

but there are also factors we should consider.

Let's say You pair it with Dururu.

sometimes it will target where Dururu jumps because of "visibility"

[fluid brook]

My recent experience is that he only hits top back and bot back... Just seems to br immune

[clear rover]

Then, RNGesus might have not on your side... hahahaha

[spring forum]

My stag is no use. Ursa truly cancel the stag skill which is annoying it’s been long I’m struggling with it

[fluid brook]

Ohhhhh. Imma give this a shot later, will enhance dururu if it improves reliability....

[fluid brook]

Fortunately the low top100s rarely have ursa..... I'm fked if ursa is more common

[clear rover]

oh this too! if you have opponent that uses Ursa... high chance you won't be able to make that pull.

[spring forum]

Well I have been taking in my server arena king title for so long

I have been rank 1 for so long

[clear rover]

I can send you guys a video of my match against Ursa

if you can wait for like 5mins.

[fluid brook]

Sunshine ebon squibby toko shrimp/hippo

Thats the usual def

[spring forum]

But now I’m facing stall comps that has Ursa and sun in front line and backline shrimp & toko with SSR x3 toys and one dps

Almost impossible to beat

I do have lynx relixx and cactanine a10 still it doesn’t help

All this is with ssr toys

[fluid brook]

Purloin dururu tagteam assassin comp?

[spring forum]

I don’t make it at all against a10 Ursa 100 % cc resistance is insane

[spring forum]

I did beat Ursa comp before but not anymore now my opponent have ssr toys on there healers x 3

Which makes it difficult then ever heals like crazy

[spring forum]

Sadly I had a8 dururu

[clear rover]

I'm using A8 dururu

[spring forum]

I sacrifice him long back

Coz I didn’t invest on dururu 😦

[clear rover]

-_-

A8 dururu is already perfect.

[spring forum]

But I have purrlonier

With 2 ssr toys

[clear rover]

its good but... not as durable as Dururu

but hey! it is usable!

[fluid brook]

Actually same. My dururu hasn't been touched at all

[clear rover]

I'm not discouraging you~ because with right set up purrloiner shines bright!

oh I also have match where I positioned my Stagthorn at top

want to see it?

[fluid brook]

No ursa? If no ursa can I see it.. may help a bit

[clear rover]

ok

[spring forum]

Ya I’ll give it a try

[fluid brook]

My disbeleaf and toko each have 1 ssr toy

But disb is melee soa lucky mite can nuke

[spring forum]

I went on final in gp with purrloiner and it helps me the most win did hell of damage but in normal arena I refuse to use him for some reason

[spring forum]

Mine too each has one ssr toy

[spring forum]

These comps I beat easy only the issue is comps with Ursa

[clear rover]

@fluid brook in this recent video I sent... look how my stagthorn did pull in horizontal pull.

[spring forum]

Skill get cancel

[fluid brook]

Wtf that stag tunneled and ignored hippo. Is this what you meant by "visibility"

[clear rover]

yes

[spring forum]

Stag hippo Rimu skills don’t work

[clear rover]

also, because Ebon pushed stag alittle.

thats why the alignment changed and stagthorn target got reset

and it viewed the farthest as the one visible to him.

oh not pushed but target lock on ebon

and then went for the one visible to him 🙂 and did horizontal pull.

[fluid brook]

Not pushed. Hippo still furthest. Guess stag just wanted to help dururu instead

Good friend stag

[clear rover]

still part of RNG @fluid brook

[spring forum]

Sometimes my stag also moves forward only the time it ignores the enemy front line familiars but still coz of Ursa can’t pull and healers in back line with x 3 ssr toys heals like crazy

[fluid brook]

Do you use them in FA def?

[clear rover]

I already sent a video where stag pulls hippo but i'll resend it for you to watch it.

[spring forum]

No my def is not beaten no one attacks me

[clear rover]

This is an experiment with "Penguicorn" but you will see here that my stag pulls diagonal downward

[spring forum]

It’s been weeks

[clear rover]

I almost lose here.. almost ran out of time...

remaining time was like 00:03

[spring forum]

I have 450k CP I use sunshine ebon relix lynx and shrimp with skill damage front line def + 10 and atk spd buff

[clear rover]

hey don't announce your Def line up here... hahaha... I highly recommend to not share those kind of details...

thats why I don't just help to make a team line up... I educate 🙂

[fluid brook]

Relixx silenced stag so he can't assist dururu. Silence ran out>targets furthest

Thats my theory at least

[clear rover]

you are partially correct

[fluid brook]

End of the day... RNG on timings

[clear rover]

check who is in my team 🙂

"Penguicorn"

Penguicorn skill and it debuff the enemy's shrimpaler... which somewhat gave visibility to that area 🙂

thats just a theory but its from ally skill.. thats why I take it as part of visibility.

but the normal behavior of stagthorn. Especially, at top front position... it will have high % rate to skill towards diagonal downward pattern (pull).

if stag is front bottom... it will become diagonal upward pattern (pull).

[fluid brook]

Yeah. While mid is RNG

[clear rover]

ok here is where I missed Mid pull

wanna see? 😄

[fluid brook]

No I'm good i see it often enough

[clear rover]

1 or 2 match... dont be discouraged! sometimes RNG strikes twice... or three times same result LOL

[fluid brook]

Or for a week straight...

That's why I asked here. Am i doing something wrong or my tests were correct and it's (mostly) RNG

Will give dururu and penguicorn a try tho...

[clear rover]

well if its that... then just like I said earlier.. the factors to consider are:
Raw stats (awakening and bonding tree) + Stats (Toys equipped) + RNGesus

and of course position.

[fluid brook]

But then again. Dururu has similar targeting with stag right? (Furthest from position)

[clear rover]

yes~

[fluid brook]

Mostly just this. Stag can't target select for sht

GGs thanks. Will test out stag pairings next week... If he can reliably pull squibby I'm planning on giving him 1 or 2 SSR mittens

[spring forum]

This skill also doesn’t work against Ursa I checked it

[clear rover]

Yep!~ because Ursa negates the debuff effect with it's resist ally buff skill.

we can say the 2nd wave or 3rd wave of skill there will be an opening where Ursa's resist buff will miss the timing for the skill of the opponent's skill.

so there will always be a window of opportunity

but that's if we are still alive or they are still alive

[shell grail]

I personally think that the acc raw stat and acc rate are not the same and not affect each other (same go to the eva raw and rate like our character are)

[clear rover]

I'm just referencing to Stat difference. For example would be Sunshine or Penguicorn that greatly reduce the ACC % of familiars.
Which make them miss basic attack or skill dmg.

That's why I related it to awakening raw stats versus raw stats of opponents'

same goes with mentioning "Hullaballoon" that boost allies' EVA %. Which can make hullaballoon's team dodge basic attacks or skill dmg.

[shell grail]

underrate but still maybe overrate base on RNGesus

[leaden nexus]

any recommendations for a good familiar arena team? I've been struggling very badly

[clear rover]

If it's for Defense..
I'd say you should start investing on your Ebon Taurex. Even if its awaken 7.. It is still usable and reliable.

For defense, sustain team or what we call stall team is still very effective!
A team consist of 2 or 3 healers.

Sample of 3 healers:
Sunshine
Ebon
Shrimpaler
Squibby
Toko

Win rate increases if RNGesus is on your side and your sunshine keeps on giving you a good RNG debuff on enemies

Anyway, if I base the team set up for DEFENSE.. according to your current resources in your fam inventory..

These are the candidates:
Disbeleaf a10
Shrimpaler a8
Toko a10
Dururu a9
Sunshine a8
Hippo a8

--Ebon can also be candidates if you feed him jellies because Ebon have good synergy with Hippocampus--

You can go for 3 healers or 2 healers for Def team.

Disbeleaf
Dururu
Toko
Shrimpaler
+1 more fam (can be Def or atk familiar)

[rich hound]

Anyone might now what is the top 2 players' familiars might be?

[shell grail]

no idea

[spring forum]

Ebon and squibby I guess

Or stag and squibby

What’s the buff on !?

[rich hound]

idk haha

[keen verge]

Drowsy or squibby in the backline for sure

[flat crane]

I need some help with my defense team for arena. I currently run this team and I wanted your opinion on switching someone for cinder
The only one that is not full 6* toys is ebon that has 2 6* and 1 5*

[shell grail]

IMO, replace Disbeleaf and put sun front

[shell grail]

● New Familiar

• 4★ Sapdragon

src: https://forum.netmarble.com/enngb_en/view/6/14669

[flat crane]

He is coming already?

Jezz

[shell grail]

gonna skip

[flat crane]

I'll take a look and try my luck

[grizzled latch]

Why? Not good?

[topaz sandal]

Thanks thanks Glioca! (thought I replied but didn't T_T) Just realised you're in Pyro Crux too, cya around!

[clear rover]

You're welcome!

[shell grail]

resources not enough for A7

[gritty grotto]

Is sapdragon worth to pull? Im swordsman

[spring forum]

Yea

Good in pve and also fam arena

[leaden nexus]

thank youu

okay! thank youu

[shell grail]

💸 💸 💸
less RNG for Sapdragon

[flat crane]

Not even a dinner or a coffee. They just proceed to screw us once again

[keen verge]

he is stronger than i thought

[waxen spoke]

#💪｜flex-channel today was my funeral. 4 times failed 50%

cactus 33% though

[shell grail]

show us some vid

[shell grail]

sad day bro

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail bro, today I also crafted rare feather...

[shell grail]

lovely

[waxen spoke]

Yea, now I need 1 more crappy rare, so I'll fuse 3 of them into a good one. Or into another feather😅

[spring forum]

That’s why I don’t do it I did 100% on cactanine to a10

[clear rover]

Just believe in RNGesus. Your sacrifice in this moment will give you good results in the future

[spring forum]

Hopefully 🤞

[shell grail]

damn, all my fam got beamed by Sap

[spring forum]

What was the awakening of that snapdragon !?

Damn 91k

[shell grail]

10!! (about 93k cp)

[shell grail]

with no elemental advantage

[waxen spoke]

insane tbh

I'm out of money for this brat

[shell grail]

me too, out of resources

cant get him to A7, better not pull

[waxen spoke]

I'm 60 points away from guarantee. Hopefully I'll finish it before the end of the banner

[shell grail]

u got a month, GL

[waxen spoke]

I decided to do 1 round + I bought 1 copy from the reelay

[shell grail]

u can buy 1 more copy from the check-in package

[spring forum]

Maybe I’ll buy all the available copies in shop. I’m saving up for Nost and gloomi banner rerun since I was on vacation wasn’t able to pull on gloomi .. hopefully it will be out on Halloween

[spring forum]

Ya

[waxen spoke]

I burned 2 copies of Glomie trying to 50%)

[spring forum]

Bummer

Don’t worry rerun will happen soon

[waxen spoke]

Nah, I don't whale anymore. Game showed its butt on me 2 days ago, when I failed 50% four times in a row

[spring forum]

Count how many times you success

That’s the part we never count

[waxen spoke]

I did count. I lost 2-3 items overall to be 50%. So it's like 35-40% for me I think

[spring forum]

I failed so many times on molten so I decided to do 100% it’s gonna take a while but it’s worth the wait then a disappointment ☺️

I try 2 times to do flash boots 50% recently and failed milky twice failed

[waxen spoke]

That's even worse than I had. I feel sorry, man

[gritty grotto]

For low spender what priority fam to pull in the future

I have lots of rare but most of them no awake

[tired mist]

Relixx to a7 since it's already a4

[gritty grotto]

How about the free selection egg every 28days i want to awake squibby for FA but i want stag too for pvp im swordsman haha

[tired mist]

Stag is also very good in arena/gp

[gritty grotto]

Thanks!

On tix summon i focus on relixx when he return

[gritty grotto]

A7 is good enough then next rare fam?

[waxen spoke]

33%

33%

[gritty grotto]

Ohhh im doing my bonding tree balance lol

Heres my fam list but not updated awakes

[shell grail]

not wrong

[shell grail]

do u still use boar? my suggest will be stopping invest to the boar

[gritty grotto]

I stop investing boar im saving jellies for now

I dont know which fam should i focus prem.jellies because its hard to grind normal jellies haha

[gritty grotto]

In my fam line up which better to prio prem. jellies?

I think mite must be #1

Or rgb

[shell grail]

again, its not that bad to balance them if u can.
maybe choose by the mats efficiency from the leftover 4s fam
or try Bunnybot way to focus 1 or 2 elements

[gritty grotto]

But which fam do u guys recommend? Pve/pvp

[gritty grotto]

Thanks for the tips! Should i stop putting premium jellies on support? Im using shrimp disbelief toko in FA

[torn thicket]

Arachness is a game changer Fa and GP

[gritty grotto]

But i dont have arach yet haha

[rich sage]

This sparkee is good but kinda squishy but yes very good in dealing massive dmg

[gritty grotto]

Im using sparkee in FA when attacking 3pcs 6s specific toy

[tired mist]

I guess it's maybe okay to get top 100 but you'll never get top30 and higher that way

[shell grail]

top30 on some server

[tired mist]

Btw, Squibby is SSS cuz of his active skill and not his healing capabilities. Neglecting 40% dmg at a10 is insane

[shell grail]

from my opinion, he is sub healer which need main

[tired mist]

I use it with toko and shrimp on defense in FA (stall). He's paired with shrimp in GP.
More like a support and not a healing support.

[shell grail]

he alone cant sustain HP for that long

[tired mist]

Skill applies to all your team

Most fights, you win or lose on the first wave of skills. People have high awakening and highly enhanced fams to burst the opponent down on firs wave

[shell grail]

410 is not high to me anymore

when u faced like 450 470 520

that a massive burst

flutterby cant stand

but weird thing is, nobody use bunnybot on mine

most of my server heavily invested to dark

with stag

I doubt that 2 light support can be strong enough to stand front

stagthorn squad is there to kill your healer (backline) first not your front

stag not there for the first wave, I guess
most likely doomed on 2nd or 3rd wave

Im quite sure most of top guys all have A10 bunny

but they didn't use it, they might have a reason

10 sec or 5 hit

5 hit is easily gone

I had a thought of picking bunny a while ago

but go with stag instead

so my bunny still at A2

not usable anyway

[spring forum]

Ya as far as I know

[tired mist]

No one is top10 on my server is using bunnybot. Most people are running Gloomie, relixx, arach wombo combo paired with petal/squibby

[torn thicket]

Have a a9 and still lose

Im saving rare eggs and tickets to pull aracness.

[shell grail]

if u done with Stagthorn or u play PVP, Arachness is a great choice

[torn thicket]

Just need for Fa and GP

my new baby

1 week more to a7 in x2 accounts

[torn thicket]

I haven't use stagthorn

I got 1 a4.

[shell grail]

I left my Arachness at A2, never select one from the eggs.
IMO, Arachness is too RNG in FA/GP, easily got interrupt and die without doing anything. require a lot of resources to boost her survivability.

and only god know to gave 3x her 6s toys to me, what a joke

[torn thicket]

All is rng now

[spring forum]

I got it as well

[spring forum]

Me too

😭

I even have many familiars a10 but no arachness

[clear rover]

Well I just got molten lion last week 😂 my very first molten lion.

[spring forum]

I have 2 account

My first account

[torn thicket]

Aracness A6 +371 jellys

Buguie mvp

[shell grail]

rarely seen its user

but this A10

dont use him

xD

mite for the CC and sparkee for the DPS

but I didn't use Sparkee

Oro is quite strong too

too much melee, I guess

kona = kinda melee

stag should be fit

or hippo

Im not kona user, u might wait for the 3rd opinion

he's currently A4?

ah..., if I am in your position, I would ignore him

and prob go for Hippo

but, like I said.
Im not kona user

I don't like him

he's there from the early start and easily deleted by Hippo and Suiryu

I never use kona

[lime storm]

yes correct,
but i will only use tarakona during attacking

jn defending, my light familiars are doing good,

[shell grail]

from my current perspective, I see 0 kona when I got attacked

only see Kona on GP (some)

sunshine will be better

9 is already strong

[shell grail]

not too much, ez gold xD

I got 27M in the pocket currently, and I rarely farm gold since the coming of these 2 new maps

I 24/7 in chaos field, which is the source of my gold (with 2 ED a day)

only free source is GP

[lime storm]

10 wins - 4 lose 😆

in BUNNYBOT i trust 😌

[tired mist]

Use all alts to get gummies conquests. Slow but free

[shell grail]

still 50k to exchange haha

[tired mist]

Oh right 🤪

[shell grail]

(he asked for premium)

[tired mist]

Best way to spend your gold if you care about arena and gp. Just use green and pink pots on gold packs

[shell grail]

I can only remember 66 for lv.40

[tired mist]

66 bondings total for lvl40 tree so you can equip 3 skills. Something like that. So 66x 45 or 53 fruits depending if you use 3* or 4* familiars to imprint

[shell grail]

this one from Muse (200k gold / 30pcs per server)

[tired mist]

The toy kit one is juicy as well

[shell grail]

@lime storm found this one
Bunny A10 cant even use a single skill cast. A8 Gloomie was faster, then A8 Relixx used its skill. boom die instantly

[spring forum]

Put him in the backline

[shell grail]

had u ever faced dark squad like above?

[spring forum]

I don’t even have 1 copy of bunnybot since start of the game 😂

So I really don’t know what to say here but I guess giving him little protection will help you procs his skill

Like keeping him in backline so relix and gloomi skill will hit familiars like ebon

It good idea to pair him with ebon

[waxen spoke]

U can't keep bunnybot back line because he is melee

He will always run front and yes, you can pretty much use stag or bull to give bunnybot some room to breathe

Got my b.tree to lvl54 just now. Grass path lvl32

Idk, maybe I'll change my team. I have a10 stag and a10 cactus and grass is my strongest

I have disb with 665, frog a7 with 6r6r6 and toko 666

Stag, cactus, toko, squibby, shrimp. Need a try. Or frog+stag front, toko, squibby and shrimp back

[shell grail]

I just want to see bunny in real situations, because I never ever faced it in my server

it might be my next target to raise

[spring forum]

Me too

I’m doing Rimu, stag, relixx Puffu & squibby currently

For royal buff

[spring forum]

Not really I pretty bad fams

Barely I’m able to make gp comps

But yes I’ll do Slee Nost a10

No rank 1 always since server merge

[lime storm]

🙇 senpai

[spring forum]

These are currently the familiars I have next month Rimu will be a9 and stag as well hopefully

Also working on Ursa

Currently I can do Ursa a7

I want it a9 or a10 badly

I need to invest on def familiars

Hehe

Ursa I never pull

I buy all the capsule coming in shop from event and all

And choose him

Is a must

Even in KR top rank player use ebon till today

Heavily

[lime storm]

and sunshine? also a must have?

[spring forum]

Sunshine is good to have but not really a must

[lime storm]

luckily i manage to awake 10 taurex as f2p 🥹

[spring forum]

If you have gloomi and relixx you can kill it easy

[spring forum]

What about sunshine

Just throw sunshine ebon in front line and out 3 healers in the back that would help you win most of the def

Well my sunshine rarely miss it for some reason most of the time it’s successful

[waxen spoke]

same

[shell grail]

1 of dark squads from my top10 which I might face (559k cp)

from that example, it was like I said before, none of Tarakona

so i can only provide u some info like pair with Stagthorn

kona and puffu are kinda same

just diff ele

and range

pair it with Petal might work too

the atk spd and atk buff benefit fams like kona puffu and sparkee well

[spring forum]

I wonder what’s the familiars in front line

[shell grail]

sadly, I can't remember. he too far to reach now

[spring forum]

Soon I’ll reach 500 jellies on dark

But 555 is a lot heavily invested on dark

I’m trying to balance bonding tree

[shell grail]

that's him

rank #3

most of my server heavily invested into dark anyway

Ebon Relixx Gloomie Arachness

RGA which use a lot on PVP too

[spring forum]

I have 187 bonding

Seems definitely he focus on dark

I don’t have arachness 😂

[rich hound]

whats the other 2?

i keep using RGA but A never uses his skills

[shell grail]

other 2?

Aracness skill is single target but not homing, so ppl can dodge

[rich hound]

the other 2 Fams with RGA

[rich hound]

but A doenst use skill. always die first haha

[shell grail]

relixx and gloomie

[shell grail]

oh, thought u're talking about PVP

positioning, I believe

I didnt use Arachness too

[rich hound]

i mean besides "RGA" what are the familiars they use? Rimu? Squiibly? Ebon? Sunshine?

HAHAHA

[shell grail]

okay, those hidden up front, right?

idk

[rich hound]

yeap

[shell grail]

too far to reach him now

and cant remember from the begining of season

[rich hound]

but yea. missed it when you said PVP haha..

[shell grail]

if I can saw his bonding powers, I can take a guess

like if I see Royal Family one, it would be Rimu and Squibby

[tired mist]

Your server has low cp people. Top 3 on mine are 500k+

[spring forum]

Well mine is close to 500k as well with best familiars on

[tired mist]

Yeah, giga whales on NA 🤷‍♂️ they will have 600 fams in a month or so I think

[spring forum]

Well I’m our server it isn’t that competitive

So I take it easy

If it was I would have push harder

It depends

[lime storm]

hello? when was the last tarakona banner? or when will it comeback?

[waxen spoke]

like 6 month ago) no idea

[lime storm]

ohh long time,.hope it appears again in the banner

[tired mist]

Use monthly selectors for kona instead?

[shell grail]

no kona in that

tbh Bunny, u should move on from Kona, really old fam.
outclassed

[spring forum]

No

Kona isn’t that effective

In KR gp i don’t see anyone using it

Coz it’s squishy

Normally players don’t run Kona on stall comp and then on dps comps there are much better familiars range ones that’s why Kona is out of KR gp

[tired mist]

Ur right sorry

[gritty grotto]

What fam mostly use in KR? pvp/pve

[shell grail]

noooooooooooooo

[spring forum]

I get this all the time it’s like a curse that I can’t get rid off

[lime storm]

F2p toys 😆

[spring forum]

I had 2 months back 33 ssr toys

But now I fused all useless ones

General toys I don’t like to have

In my second account I was lucky to have many ssr toys

Like aurolynx relixx ebon x 2 ssr toys from fuse

[shell grail]

that's really nice

[tired mist]

You'll get there. I use toy kits only to fuse 6 and 6r toys so I can save a lot. 20% for 5* is not that bad. Once you can farm tier 12 nodes in adventure, it gives a lot of toys to fuse during the week.

[lime storm]

the thing is my attack familiar really weaaaaaaak,
only bunnybot strong 🥺

[tired mist]

The only rare attackers I'm using are relixx a5 and hippo a8. Still using mite, suryiu and oro. They are okay if you invest in them tbh.

[spring forum]

I hit the gp with all dark fams

Even I loose

Rarely win

But that gives me so much tool

From medals

Then at very end I climb

I leave my def teams as regular comp

Only change the comp all dark to atk

But I win plenty of def

So I end up mostly been rank 30 above

Even some days rank 12 13

[shell grail]

can't do that on Asia

u might drop below Legend

[spring forum]

I drop

And I climb back again

[shell grail]

below legend mean below 10% on Asia recently (guessing from #256 has 2030 pts)

that's a huge risk

[spring forum]

Ya that’s true

Well player base is huge in Asia

Who won last gp in Asia ?

[shell grail]

Sphex

[spring forum]

He must have lot of crazy fams and tone of jellies

[shell grail]

@spring forum last season

[flat crane]

That has been my rares for a while now

[tired mist]

I'm playing na, so it's a bit different (a lot of big whales). A win gives you 3x toy kits. But yeah, in gp you want 2 really good teams for rankings and a random team for mats most of the time. Dark fams are op atm anyways

[shell grail]

better than Firelynx

still top tier of Fire, DPS + CC

[flat crane]

I still use mine, best counter of ebon

[shell grail]

as attacker with CC, never put in front

I have my main tank

but rarely use on FA recently

My early stall-counter team (A.Lynx is replacable)

Ele Syn + Support Weak + Hidden Fragment

Shrimpaler and Dururu also have theirs

Toko Sparkee Petal Purr Reindeer Dokey Hoggob too

[rich sage]

Is it better to put mite behind stag? I kinda find stag quite random sometimes

I also invest alot in mite and sparkee

[shell grail]

depend on your strat

[shell grail]

poor A8 Firelynx

[tired mist]

Squishy

Not really worth it. Can do 60k dmg or 1k lol

300. So many good dark fams used rn. I don't recommend sparkee since he's melee.

[shell grail]

even 400+ jellies, it got easily melted by this Dark meta

[tired mist]

Do what you want, you asked for our opinion and there it is 🙂

[shell grail]

hard to find, because we know that it not worth investment

and Sparkee is DPS, not nuke.
so u cant even go pass the stall frontlines.
that what I predict

[shell grail]

and one of the reason it hard to find because no one use it (or rarely use it)

only see it as a filler on GP

[rich sage]

He is pretty good with the non dark meta, but yes even at 400 jellies i think he gonna get one shot by a single arachness and dino

Its pretty doable with all stall meta with stag so can melt the healers at the back, but once someone put hippo or random arachness it gonna yeet real fast

[rich sage]

Is it good to invest in the baloon ?

[shell grail]

a little bit more RNG, but dont expect too much dmg, it is a support fam

[rich sage]

I see… idk what to invest for atm though

Only working for my a6 dururu currently idk even what to put in gp

Also inonly have the free fams and regulars, the rare this far only squibby and stag and im in so much dillema what to invest

[rich sage]

Ah yes. If u get faced with the pips who do the dark elemental synergy even the regular 400 mite and stag melt instantly with that arachness tho

But for top 100 f2p stuff its more than enough pretty much

Good for stall comp attack too even though not burst

Sad only limited dps we can get oh well

Cant invest both in arachness and stag even if i want to- but if u do arachness can get near top 30 always tho i think? Idk if top 30

[tired mist]

Dino is really strong if you have high awakening and can protect him

[torn thicket]

Well I have sparkee with 360-390 jellys in 3 accounts and he is very good and also squishy

He's situational

@lime storm is the bunny really good? How r yours attacks?

[clear rover]

sorry!~ I've been busy~ school will resume soon so a lot of preparation for teaching materials to use.

@lime storm

[keen verge]

Bunnybot is not that strong. No whales in gp use it

Maybe few

There are way better free rare 4s familiar. Arach hippo squib stag

[keen verge]

Squib is the best because of dmg reduction buff. His heal percentage is low but that is compensated with high awake and rare toys

[torn thicket]

I have squib a9 with x2 5* toy and 1 6*

I'm top 10 but squiby really need x3 6* toys

Also have bunny a2 and x4 eggs

But I think need a good attacker like Arachness

Well I have like 4 account top10-20 with some differents Fam but no1 have bunny

The only problem I have is vs stall coz I don't have staghorn high awaken

And now all r using dark fam

Hard to kill when they r 400 jellys

Can kill using sparkee +hipo or sparkee+ mite but is 50/50.. that fk sunshine if u miss to interrup his dino then un lose.

[shell grail]

note that top30 on NA EU and Asia might be different

even in the same region, it might diff between server

[shell grail]

ah, almost out

[torn thicket]

5 seg duration every 10 sec cooldown if it have the right toys and its a9-a10

[tired mist]

Should stop using eggs on bunny if you are still doing it. A7 is enough for f2p. Switch to squibb, stag, hippo, arach till you get em all to a7. Focus on 1 at the time

Well, bunnybot is bad. Too many good dark fams and melee. No point in spending 3 more months for a10. You won't get higher ranks with it.

They don't know what they are doing. Been top 30 for 6 months as f2p. Squibby got me in top 30.

[tired mist]

Just attack on 100% win and defend the rest

Squibby is good for every support deck

[torn thicket]

No. I have hipo a7,squiby a6 and today arachness a7

I was top10 with like 4 accounts until july

Now I have 2 at top10 and the others always near top10-15

Some people have 1 rare a10 but u need to have more strong fam too

[torn thicket]

I think squibby a7-a8 is OK, I can make it a10 but I prefer invest for arachness,hipo or staghorn

[rich sage]

I have a7 stag and a6 squib what would be good to take next for eggs?

My attacker only those rgb like sparkee mite and sui nothing much

[shell grail]

u will get point reduction penalty if u don't attack at all

u only need 3 a week

depends on your current points

only remember -50 for 2400+

I hadn't got penalty before

same amount as 3-3 and 5-5 penalty

Mon - Mon -> called week

after a weekly reward distributed

[torn thicket]

Well squiby a7 then u need hipo or arachness coz u can't kill with squiby or staghorn

[tired mist]

Stag, Cactanine to counter hippo

I use ebon, relixx and suiryu.
Stag is really good with hippo

[torn thicket]

Depends on what you're up against

I don't use hipo in def, too much staghorn

375 jellys, almost +20 tree

Yep 1 sec

After water/fire +20 tree then dark to +35

But depen on u line for me is dark and water

Then fire

[shell grail]

u mean lv 25 for the fruit?

[tired mist]

405

Yes you see it when you click on the element on bonding tree

[shell grail]

GL to everyone on GP

[torn thicket]

4 account and just 1 survive to the next vs 😦

[shell grail]

👀

seem to make agreement