Familiar Arena QA

[spring forum]

I do not have arachness or bunny

I do play on 2 account but both have good familiars roadkill & Roadkiller

[tawdry coyote]

To beat bunnybot and arachnes is ez, coming from player who uses both A10, kekeke (and A10 Hippo)

Good luck in GP folks

If anyone wants feedback, this is my last before I delete all nnk discords.

I can't believe this thread I started for FA from a few posts went on to grow to over 5k.

Thank you all for your curiosity, exchanges, and comraderie.

It's truly been enjoyable.

[shy spire]

It's helped me a lot to read this thread, thank you as a f2p I got my first asterite this week without realizing it thanks to FA

[tawdry coyote]

I'll resummarize my general thoughts and pin them before I go. They've been the longstanding advice I've given since pretty much day one.

[keen verge]

Your thoughts on the new familiars and also upcoming familiars. Pin them also 😄

[tawdry coyote]

ノスト is a must get. It is ranged sunshine except dark support. Does AoE pool to furthest familiar that reduces accuracy. When ability ends, does another chunk of damage.

https://youtu.be/yugqb-LgZwU

Rido is green attacker, it is skippable.

Gem and Rumi both are good dps, I think I posted above. Light laser lizard and dark cat.

I'll do it later.

[tawdry coyote]

If new means Whippersnapper, it is okay at really high awakening, but okay at really high means skippable.

The biggest change to the scene like Sunshine will be ノスト (Nost?)

スリー light sleeping familiar resets 3 random ults and heals % HP. Can't reset itself.

[tawdry coyote]

Bunny's advice for current banners: don't hecking pull (unless you can A7+ Ursa)

Unless you're mega whale, go ahead and pull for Ursa/Wizz only.

[fossil gazelle]

i'm f2p and i'm considering saving til nost

should i do it?

i manage to get top 100/256 on both arena and gp

if i save tickets for that long i'm probably saying bye bye to them, right?

[vocal warren]

😆

[tawdry coyote]

I think that's fine.

[tawdry coyote]

Nice flex, but mid-tier familiar

[vocal warren]

What's the best tier fam

[tawdry coyote]

Those that are the best at what they do (e.g., dmg-Arachnes) or provide enough tech/versatility for most comps (e.g., Taurex/Dururu)

[waxen spoke]

im in finals

[shell grail]

GL

[tawdry coyote]

Congrats!!!

[waxen spoke]

im out))

[tawdry coyote]

Me too, from here.

I am leaving here permanently.

Today has taken my last breath, so I'll have to part ways.

I wanted to rewrite stuff, but I just don't have it in me at this point, I'm sorry.

Thank you all for everything, and I hope you all have a good life and continue to prosper!

[waxen spoke]

Take care man, best regards!

[lusty cargo]

stag + relix or ebon + relix for attacking?

[waxen spoke]

@lime storm

[lime storm]

thank you senpai

[lime storm]

hello im f2p, been playing since the 1st week of the game,
i got awake 9 bunnybot, i always choose him from rare selection,
but now wanna focus other familiars that focuses in attacking and pvp,

i dont pull from, always from normal for the guaranteed rare,

got
staghorn a1
hippo a3
tarakona 4 ( got 3 copies from anniv tix

any help for my next rare selection?

[topaz shoal]

Wtf 3 kona from aniv!?!?!

[lime storm]

hehe yes 1 year worth of luxk

hehe bunnybot helping me survivr arena though,

[topaz shoal]

Why bunnybott

Not squid

[lime storm]

coz bunnybot is the 1st familiar ive got,
and i think he is more powerful than squid in defense

and i plan to replace sunshine with flutterby,
flutter by 5sec with fast casting
bunnybot 10 sec shield 5 dmg instances

will get almost 15 seconds shield for whole team, since flutterby cast 1st before bunnybot,
and any dmg i'll take toko and shrimpaler, hehe
just my idea.

*toko and shrimp will heal for the dmg outside the shield.

[tired mist]

Wth 3 rare from anni!!! Got 1 rare familiar only and no weapon or equipement :/

[tired mist]

Squibby is the king of defense tbh. Need minimum a7+ for high ranking imo tho.

[lime storm]

after 1 year of playing xD

[lime storm]

yes they also said that i squibbybis better,
but i already have toko and shrimp, too much healer if i still choose squibby xD

hehe yes i think taurex is doing a fine job tanking 3 -4 familiars at once

[spring forum]

@lime storm it’s very simple answer start working on arachness next since you mention you want dps and it pairs well with bunny. This is based on my experience on gp and our server fam arena. Bunny shield helps arachness survivability also arachness is good for PvP. Since you mention you are f2p you don’t have much option 😁

[lusty cargo]

does relix cast earlier than ebon?

[desert whale]

hey

-hippo, ebon, toko, bouge, sunshine
-sore, disbeleaf, suiryu, toko, shrimp
-ebon, sunshine, oroboro, shrimp, suiryu

which team is better

or is there a better team that uses free familiars with/out hippo

@helpers

[tired mist]

Dururu is your best tank for now. All the others are too low awakening atm

[desert whale]

toko, shrimp, sunshine, dururu and best dps is good team?

thought idk whos my best dps mite, hippo, suryu or oroboro

[spring forum]

I would say front dururu, disbleaf backline shrimp suiryu. Still your awakening is bit lower due this to dps frostbite is good way to go

[spring forum]

Ebon cool down 37 relixx 40 this means as ebon push in back little earlier the relix cast the skill

[spring forum]

Ya

Let me check

You can see here ebon skill pop up 1 sec faster (look already ebon push back and relix is about to cast the skill )

Both are a10

[lime storm]

yes arachness is my 1st option, but sadly i dont have an arachness,.soo my only choice is stagorn or hippo,
stag 1 or hippo 3

[spring forum]

Hippo isn’t the best at the moment

But I do include stag in my comp and it works so well specially most of the opponents having healers def comp

Also stag I do use for PvP

The passive is so good

[fossil gazelle]

who casts their skill first, whippersnapper or rimu?

[spring forum]

Whippersnapper

[timid rivet]

how to improve this lineup for defense? Is it worth to use 6 egg to get A6 squibby replace suiryu?

[rich sage]

not sure about others but yes!

i use almost similar defense and my a5 squibby doing pretty fine

[timid rivet]

I have 2 normal 6* selection toy I can take squibby there too if its worth?

[rich sage]

in my opinion yes!

for me the best selection for 6 star toy is one for the support familiar

because the def familiar or attk familiar can use the generic or hp or def one but there is no general cd time toys for the support

but please, do refer to other fam arena veteran as well, because im still learning too

[lime storm]

ahh yes you got a point there stag is OP in pvp and very useful in arena if u use wisely.

[timid rivet]

Ok, thanks

[lusty cargo]

i just came back from months of lowkey play, but it means now confirmed that higher awaken level makes the familiar cast faster compared to same familiar with lower awake?

[vocal warren]

Is that white bear any good?

[topaz shoal]

Good againts things that moves things around

[spring forum]

One of the best def familiar best advantage of having Ursa is that CC resistance 100% avoid stag hippo and many other skill that are very effective. Basically hippo stag etc skill won work at all

[topaz shoal]

make tim for me pls ty

yes

idk how to attack

helps

what attack fam?

no i dont use stall comp for attack

[shell grail]

he has no choices, I guess

I saw his general attack squad on #💬｜general-chat

[topaz shoal]

usually i use disb

i dont have heavy hitter man fkkk

do i use toko + squibbt + 3 attacker

i ment later on when i get a8 atleast

[topaz shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049055492120526968/1116632063446089799/image.png

pls try

i am desprate

[spring forum]

Ebon, sunshine, dururu shrimp mite / buff atk spd, elemental synergy, atk -10 or def +10 for more survivability but if you are going all atk then use skill damage +15% this will get you through most of the average CP players also depends on enemy comp

For def use ebon, sunshine, shrimp disbeleaf , squibby / buff def +10 atk-10 , fruit of protection or atk spd

[topaz shoal]

this for atk?

[spring forum]

Yes

Get that lynx to a7 at least it can do a lot for you

For a long time I run a7 lynx and it was really good specially with 6 star toys

[grizzled latch]

Which one is better to use the all type gloves or familiar locked type toys

[tired mist]

Depends on stars

[grizzled latch]

Rare 6*

[tired mist]

Rare for rare, a specific toy is better than a generic one in most cases. If you use Mite as a "tank"/frontliner, generic vests are better.

[spring forum]

6 star general toys are better then 5 star specific toys and 6 star specific toys are better then general 6 star toys

So better look for 6 star toys specific

Try to complete one by one familiar

Give priority to def familiars toys that will help you to survive longer this way you atk familiars can do damage overtime

If you def fams die atk familiars are useless

After your complete your def familiars toys focus on atk familiars toys. ( target for the toys for the your main fam arena comp familiars toys unless you are very much focus on GP

[grizzled latch]

Ohhh never really thought of it that way ive been focusing my 6 rares on attack and support fams

Do you have like a tier list for familiars that is good for fam arena?

[grizzled latch]

GG btw i lost to you first round in GP finals XD

I need some team comp help tbh

[spring forum]

I didn’t know that !?

I was on final on my old account on 2nd GP and on semi final on first one I guess. This time also I got out from semi final on my current account

This is based on KR server also including future familiars this may give you a idea. Squibby is not heavy used in GL for some reason. Maybe in future it will be as now even I start seeing squibby in gp more often then first gp

This could be the reason look this is KR it’s considered as SSS tier

Then here is GL I don’t know why it’s different !? But this is bad. I think they found squibby too OP

[shell grail]

look the same

[spring forum]

Familiars and familiar is different I guess

Nearby & in range is different

😁

[shell grail]

same if u see him in real action (in range = all arena area = all will receive)

[spring forum]

Alright I will check

[tired mist]

Pretty sure it's the same. There are a few traduction errors on global. Dynasty gloves is one of them.

Check out Squibby skill, it goes to all fams in a certain range of each other and not only one.

[shell grail]

including itself

[spring forum]

I do have squibby a8 but I don’t use him

[grizzled latch]

Why not?

[spring forum]

Coz I use shrimp with ssr toy and it’s better with my current comp as ebon push back shrimp focus on ebon

[spring forum]

Look at that toko heal and sunshine def

[fluid brook]

should I work on Relixx or Tarakona (both for FA and PvP)?

Both are a0

Current attack team: A10 Toko, Mite, Oro, Ebon, A7 Arachnes

or neither and try to a10 arachnes? xD

[lime storm]

familiar defense

taurex. sunshine

squibby. disbeleaf

      shrimp

[topaz shoal]

Its already like that for def

Im struggling in attack

[grand plinth]

Welcome back! 😁

[spring forum]

Relixx is the best atk familiar in PVP & without a doubt the best familiar in fam arena as well

This is very much based on my experience and other players I had relixx a10 from day 1 of release.

Kona is good to invest for PvP but for fam arena pretty much above average

[rich sage]

Hi! I do have question regarding ebon toys, is it better his 5 star specific toys, or the 6 star hp toys on it? Thank you very much!

[spring forum]

No ebon specific toy is better for damage reduction then HP if hp ssr toy it okey to use

[rich sage]

Oho, thank you very much!

For the hp toys at 6 star non rare its better to fuse them then?

[shell grail]

IMO, yes

[spring forum]

Don’t forget to use tools otherwise it’s just a waste

😁

[lime storm]

sunshine. taurex

shrimp/disbeleaf. mite/oroboros

                  aurora lynx

[rich sage]

Www yes! Thank you for the answer

[rich sage]

Thankies!

[topaz shoal]

Ok ill try

[lime storm]

when was the last banner of tarakona?
and when will we get its next banner?
trying to save diaz and tix.

[iron pond]

@thorny herald cant seem to make a decent setup been having no luck for attack and def lately

[shell grail]

Lumi is coming this week guys

[spring forum]

You must be kidding no way

Last thing I except

I’m not ready for it

[spring forum]

How did you know that

I thought it will come on Halloween 👻

[shell grail]

https://forum.netmarble.com/enngb_en/view/6/14244

Gloomie = Lumi

[keen verge]

Wow. You sure its lumi?

But lumi is halloween event familiar

[shell grail]

yeah, but it does not bound to the episode
and.. this is Global server, they do whatever they want

[shell grail]

in Thai version of this post, its text is 'ลูมิ' which pronounce as 'Lumi'

[keen verge]

Oh nice lumi coming

I double checked and lumi is not an ep familiar

[waxen spoke]

who is Lumi? is it good? i have 700 tickets

[waxen spoke]

but have u tested that?

[shell grail]

the dark cat

https://sites.google.com/view/ninokuro-en-hub/familiars/familiars-list/familiar-lumi?authuser=0

[waxen spoke]

is it good on arena?

[keen verge]

yup. relix tier, even better

[waxen spoke]

damn. and i decided to stop donanting not so long ago

btw, last night did some crazy stuff)) both 50%

[waxen spoke]

will make 2 banners

[shell grail]

new skill will be introduced to FA/GP

make them attack their own teammate

[spring forum]

Yes a several times but it doesn’t make a huge difference

[spring forum]

One of the best

[waxen spoke]

@spring forum I'll only go for 2 banners. Don't have opportunity to go for more

[spring forum]

When do this happen

[spring forum]

Which banners

I’m not gonna pull on lumi banner

[waxen spoke]

@spring forum with new familiar

Lumi, I'll pull 2 times

[spring forum]

Couple of things came up last minute

So don’t wanna spend on it even I really want lumi

[waxen spoke]

I have 699 tickets now

[shell grail]

Lumi's skill

[waxen spoke]

I havent bought them, they've just accumulated after Petal event

[spring forum]

I was expecting lumi on holloween but this greedy netmarble is bringing out one after another good familiars

[waxen spoke]

Yes, true. I've also thought that they r doing bad stuff now

Because they could easily drop Hippo banner before Lumi

And make people accumulate resources

Bit they squish everything from us

[spring forum]

Ya that’s true for 3 seconds enemies are hypnotized.

[spring forum]

I have a feeling lumi banner will come around on holloween if so I will make it a10

For now I’ll just buy the copy in shop

[shell grail]

they want to earn something back after 1st anniversary giving event

[waxen spoke]

I hope I get relix. I have this egg with relix, so I make it a9

[shell grail]

I can make 1 of them from 7 -> 8
which one? Relixx or A.lynx

[spring forum]

Relixx

[clear rover]

Lumi/Rumi will be out after maintenance in Global. Will it also be same effect? at awaken 10 effect in arena 3 seconds Hypnotize

[spring forum]

Yes why it should be different

[clear rover]

I'm just asking because whippersnapper effect is not the same as the Description for Kr/JP Server

[waxen spoke]

I've pulled 7 rares for 700 tickets)

Have 100 more to finish the banner and get 8th one

[shell grail]

7 Lumi?

[tired mist]

That's crazy lucky ngl

[waxen spoke]

no, its a4. if i buy 2 copies from stars itll be a6

[shell grail]

5 from 700 tickets

that crazy luck

4 + 1 guarantee

wasn't it?

[waxen spoke]

no. ive bought 1 here

4 lumi from tickets, 1 bear, 1 squibby, 1 stag

i was wrong about 7 for 700. it was 7 for 800

[shell grail]

I got 1 + 1 guarantee Lumi from first 400 tickets

[waxen spoke]

no i was right

i also got 1 bunnybot

so 8 for 800

[shell grail]

total of 5 rares from first 400 tickets
1 + 1 Lumi
2 Sage Raindeer
1 Bunnybot

now on 2nd iteration, 100 tickets for none

now, re-think about is Lumi worth?

release Lumi this fast ruin my plan for it on Oct

[tired mist]

Tell me netmarble gives higher rates to big spenders without telling me ☝️
😂😂😂

[waxen spoke]

no, u havent seen a guy in my clan

50% milkyway and chrono from a7 to a10

all 1st try!

all clan was cursing him)

[tired mist]

Well, you succeded some 33% if my memory is right.

Can't afford to try that, not even 50/50s

[waxen spoke]

i did 22% milky and chrono, but that guy also)

but my staticstics on familiars is way worse

lost many rare fams

[tired mist]

Can't lose going for 100%s only 😉 I'm not a gambler, never will be

[grizzled latch]

What u guys think of gloomie?

[waxen spoke]

33%!

[grizzled latch]

Must have or skippable?

[grizzled latch]

Damn bro

[waxen spoke]

its 2nd time. 1st one was a failier))

[grizzled latch]

U going to aw10 lumie?

Is it worth it?

[waxen spoke]

maybe in the future

for now will make a4-6. will think

i also got a 5 star pet 1st try)

today

[shell grail]

does Lumi worth to spend for? (FA/GP term and prob A7)
@spring forum @keen verge @thorny herald

[waxen spoke]

it is worth

he deals damage + does hipnosis

[shell grail]

yeah, I hesitate becuase they release it too fast

[shell grail]

Im planning to get him on Oct

[waxen spoke]

but i havent spent anything on my tickets

idk where they came from)

[spring forum]

It’s worth spending.. one of the best familiar till today in KR in terms of Fam arena & PVE but for PvP different players have different opinion but overall one of the best familiar in the game for a long time

[spring forum]

That’s the problem for me too. I have a vacation to go on next month if not I would have made it a10 today itself 😭😭😭

[keen verge]

this @shell grail. also we we can watch lumi during league matches, if only for your assurance that lumi is good. but imo she is good for all content

[spring forum]

Yea lumi is good for all content I have been watching closely KR side as well

[shell grail]

ah... time to raise my alts

[keen verge]

my lumi

[waxen spoke]

@keen verge cheater😄

How many tickets and diamonds did u use?

[shell grail]

Had u try on FA/GP? how was it?

[keen verge]

better burst than relix. if same awake, jellies and toy.

[keen verge]

5 guarantees bro

[waxen spoke]

@keen verge but 5 is a4. Where did u get 8 more copies?) OK, u can get 2 from upgrading stars and 1 from the shop. But 5 more?)

[shell grail]

use them together?

[keen verge]

i got 5 copies from non guarantees

[keen verge]

still thinking about my team compositions

[spring forum]

Really

[shell grail]

1st pity -> 1 + 1 guarantee
2nd pity -> 1 guarantee
3rd pity -> 1 guarantee
FARKKKKKKKK

[lime storm]

is this familiar? long range? or melee?

[tired mist]

Range

[lime storm]

ohh seems great 😱

[waxen spoke]

my pogress: frog 7, lumi 6

[shell grail]

my progress: Lumi 1

[shell grail]

done with temple this ss

[waxen spoke]

50%

im always laughing about this one, ahaha! It was a6 not long ago)) 450 jellied

and toys)

[tired mist]

Is he doing good? What team are you using him with? Mines a10 with 555 and +300 but he's most often getting burst down.

[waxen spoke]

@tired mist it's the best healer in game) I have 1 rare fam in my def team and I barely ever loose) bull, sun, toko, shrimp, squib

[lime storm]

how was squibby senpai? can he tank at awake 7? with 555 toys?

[tired mist]

For Squibby, I know, using the same team even tho mine's a4 😉 I was asking for sparkee 🙂

[rich sage]

Does sparkee better with hp toys rather than all atk? I kinda start using sparkee as well

[tired mist]

He's really good but not a tank. Put it backline

[waxen spoke]

He is not a tank. His main role is to stand far back and give that 40% shield for your team

[waxen spoke]

Why u ask me? Did I say that this sparkie was mine? There are far better options, just that guy is f2p and he has not got anything better. But he is in top 10, because he has been choosing only bunnybot from all his eggs and its like a9 now i think

now he put atk toys. i know why he used feathers - because sparkie is a melee fam and it dies kinda fast, so he tried to add sustain to him

but this is more weird, he uses 3 atk toys on the sun. 440 sun btw

and he is placed 6. i bet he is getting attacked quite a lot and he is winning that

i dont get attacked, because almost no one can beat my def

so im placed 12)

[tired mist]

Thought it was yours 😅

[waxen spoke]

50%. relix went a9, but cat did not go a7. im out of tickets and gems. btw second lap for cat gave only 1 rare in the end

[waxen spoke]

this new cat is basically like relix, but it also had 5% ignore for opponent's defence and this makes him slightly better than relix

[burnt arch]

anyone got video of lumi real action in FA? wanna check his skill timing/activation

[burnt arch]

She cause fear which disable all skill/ fam usage. I think that make quite a huge different.

also not sure which resistance stat can prevent fear

[waxen spoke]

There is a guy's with a 10 lumi on my server

[burnt arch]

yeah there's also a10 lumi here as well but no chance for me to check their replay 😦

[waxen spoke]

When they drop new update they will also add storyline. My main char is lvl146.5 and I think it will be 150 if I do the main line. Others are lvl125 and I think they will be 140 after I'm done with the new story. That will give me 20k gems for a new lumi round

Hope I get 2 copies

And I'll a7 him with 100%

And swap relix for lumi in all decks

[waxen spoke]

They dropped 100 ticket package.... and I screwed my Lumi copy yesterday🤣

I bought 100 tickets and rolled 100/200 and got another Lumi🤣

Now need to finish it to make a7 with 100%

[keen verge]

😆

[keen verge]

Another 100 next month

[shell grail]

damn unfortunate

[waxen spoke]

50%)

[waxen spoke]

I got another squiby from Lumi banner. In 4 days i'll get and egg and make him a9 with 100%✨

[waxen spoke]

@spring forum i had my revenge))

[spring forum]

Hehe I put my weak comp first to trick and you trick me now 😂

[spring forum]

GG man

[waxen spoke]

And GG's to you bro!✨

[spring forum]

Hope we meet again in round 16

But it’s 50 luck

I’m still weak

I need one def familiar a10 and gloomi a10 or some good atk familiar a10

Currently I’m working on Ursa and also I will do a10 gloomi or rerun banner hopefully October

[waxen spoke]

no i hope we dont meet, hahah)) you are strong, i just was lucky to win that fight))

ill work on ursa next month. it will be a5

[spring forum]

I got lucky and did a9 kona and also got extra copy so hopefully soon a10 kona

[waxen spoke]

on normal arena my def is almost immortal))

[waxen spoke]

do 33%) my stag did 33%))

i tried kona 33, but failed

i think that doing 100% to a10 is not worth it

[spring forum]

It was funny what happen with Kona awakening. I was trying to 50% when I had 2 copies but I really couldn’t decide

[waxen spoke]

too much copies

[spring forum]

Later when I went to do 100% by mistake I did 50% and I just did again 50% and got a9 was very lucky

[spring forum]

Kona I got from my free tickets so I think it’s worth pulling a10

[waxen spoke]

for now i think im even on awakenings. i had fails on lumi, petal, squiby, stag, kona, sagedeer, dark hat mage

[spring forum]

I choose from paid capsule Ursa

Hopefully soon it will be a7 and have to wait and pray for banner rerun maybe next year 😂😂😂

[waxen spoke]

but succeeded on cactus, a.lynx x2, relix, stag, sagedeer

[spring forum]

After failing 4 times on molten I manage to do a10 on my other account

[waxen spoke]

i chose relix and made her a9 with 50%)

[spring forum]

I have stag only a7 I really want at least a9 stag

[spring forum]

Oh that very good. I did my relixx a10 on first day all 100% guaranteed

Coz I knew it’s best attacking familiar in PvP and arena as well

[waxen spoke]

this will kill relix, hahaha

+465

he is only upgrading light tree

[spring forum]

That’s a bit crazy

But I like to balance my bonding tree just only give a little priority to light and dark

Soon it will be 435 jellies dark and light

I focus on light and dark since my most familiars are dark and light

And also In future I’ll have Rimu and Nost there for it’s a good investment

[waxen spoke]

Here is my BT. I level everything) But grass is main, because of Stag and Toko

[timid rivet]

First time top 30! Thanks to the help I get from this chat even just reading others

[spring forum]

Your welcome and if you may need a help with your familiars comp please ask here we could be a help to improve

[waxen spoke]

congratulations!

idk if i told u, but i tried to upgrade chrono without dolls and brought it to 85 from 94. but today used some dolls and brought it to 91)

[keen verge]

Anyone have a good line up for stagthorn? I cant use him properly. His skill is either 1.) Cancelled or 2.) The enemy stag pulls first, or 3.) my stag pulls enemy aurora/hippo who will skill afterwards

[waxen spoke]

@keen verge I don't use stag against stag. Because u can never tell who will pull 1st, but most of the time enemy's stag pulls 1st. Even though my is a10 6r66.

I use taurex against stag

I use stag with toko and kona. And rest r shrimp+mite or cactus+mite/puffu

[keen verge]

Cant choose our opponents in grand prix tho

Sigh i think we can agree that stags pull is not reliable

[shell grail]

mine on GP

[shell grail]

FYI, lv 150 star is about the FA
example from the top way

[lusty cargo]

oh well time to afk

[shell grail]

I can only reach first special node of each way
top - 5% atk for sup fam
left - 5% def for atk fam
right - 5% hp for def fam

[shell grail]

look different from the korean one

[waxen spoke]

tomorrow cactuas a9 and squibby a9

[spring forum]

!?

[shell grail]

50% and 33%
ez A10

dont do that

[waxen spoke]

I 100% too. both

[shell grail]

btw, GL to your grand prix run guys

[waxen spoke]

thanks, u 2!

[tired mist]

Thanks you too ! 🙂

[spring forum]

Thank you good luck to you too

[spring forum]

I fail too many times can’t afford it

[waxen spoke]

@spring forum I failed a lot too, but overall I think it's 50-50 for me. I probably had 5 fails and 5 successes

[shell grail]

how your first round of GP?

[waxen spoke]

I won. And you?@shell grail

[shell grail]

I won too

[waxen spoke]

I might win the next one

[shell grail]

I prob out next round

[waxen spoke]

I got very good toys yesterday. Two six stars for relix and 2 for a.lynx. both 666 now)

And rare jacket for rare frog fam

So far has best toys

[keen verge]

whale

[waxen spoke]

@keen verge no I'm not) I haven't spent that much to be considered as a whale

[keen verge]

Trust me you are hahahahaha

U stronk bro

[waxen spoke]

I'm not a whale

I just bought best price-value items

6300$ is not a whale)

For 1 year

[tired mist]

6k on a mobile game and not a whale 😂😂 ty made my day

[waxen spoke]

U don't know how much whales spend

[spring forum]

6k doesn’t make you a whale

[waxen spoke]

Whale is maybe 15k+

[spring forum]

Well honestly I spend more than that but not in familiars only but still doesn’t make a much a whale. Rashash Marzooqi is kinda whales

[tired mist]

I know don't worry. Still way to much money in my opinion. It's your money, you do what you want with it

[lusty cargo]

can u guys give tips on using arachness for atk? like what familiars can cast earlier than him/ disrupt him from using skill

[shell grail]

beware Ebon

and Bunnybot can easily nullify her skill

[waxen spoke]

imo araknes is trash for ga)

there are better options for dps

what do u think who will win?

i think that victory is mine

[shell grail]

u should

most of enemies I faced was like 370k cp on his weakest team or all 3 teams with 400k+ cp

[waxen spoke]

all my teams are 400+

[tired mist]

We have someone in our server that spent over 400k so

[waxen spoke]

it just shows incorrectly

petal and disbelief are the only to have 556. all rest have 666 and rares

kona 2 general rares, petal personal rare, frog 2 pers and 1 gen, stag has rare, jpponent has no rares i think

[shell grail]

I mean, even the (unbuff) showing number was like 400k+ cp

[waxen spoke]

oh thats crazy

[shell grail]

yeah

that's Asia bro

this is who I lost against in the latest round

how can I beat him?

he will definitely face Mazzard in the final round of group stage

[grizzled latch]

How much would u say they spent?

[elfin trout]

Any tips on who I should place where for fam arena? Seem to be stuck in D2 and losing a lot of my matches recently =/ Edit: I've put Purloin in so it can attack the enemies backline Boar/Shrimp but doesn't seem to be doing too well past few days

[tired mist]

That's a lot of gummy bears 😵

[tired mist]

Can you precise on attack or defense?
Been easier for me to climb high rankings with defense. Investing my monthly eggs on Squibby made all the difference.

[elfin trout]

For defense my team doesn't seem to be doing too bad. It's more for attacking I'm losing a lot of points

[tired mist]

Then don't attack 😉 Most people who beat my def team uses strong rare attackers and Stag

A third healer like disbeleaf would be better imo to replace boar for defense. All depends on toys you have though.
Haste buff is also better than shield buff to boost shrimp healing imo.

[elfin trout]

Also if I dont attack, wouldn't it be a waste of the tickets and orange hearth stars?

[rich sage]

it indeed it is, but still its good to see pros and cons, attack if ure confident abt ur team and defense it all to at least reach the 1% or so- thats the best strat all around

[waxen spoke]

im in finals. but i think ill lose them again for the 3rd time))

[shell grail]

GL

[tired mist]

Depends what you value more medals or asterite

[lusty cargo]

@gaunt thunder does familiar evolution need extra familiar copy as requirement? asking so we can prepare

[gaunt thunder]

We don't know yet

[spring forum]

Who is it !?

[grizzled latch]

Daaamn

Who?

[tired mist]

The strongest account NA 😅

[split olive]

are base 6* toys better than 5* familiar specific ones?

[tired mist]

Gloves are pretty much the same. For vests, go for specifics

@split olive you can search for roadkill posts, he made really good tips for toys in this convo

[split olive]

ty, i'll do that now 🙂

[waxen spoke]

I'm out

[lime storm]

NO banner, before guarantee, and guarantee 🤗

[waxen spoke]

ive thought that u quit

Should i go higher awakenink on Lumi than a7? I have 120 tickets and gems to get 1 more banner

[shell grail]

that would be another guy from NA, who create this QA

[lime storm]

ohh im just the f2p senpai hehe stilll thanks for noticing

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail do u think that Lumi is worth investing in?

[shell grail]

I got A7 already

[waxen spoke]

Idk if he is good on fam arena. I also have a7

But can do 1 more banner

[shell grail]

I wont do more than that, IMO

[waxen spoke]

What does his ability do?

He hipnotizes opponents for 3 seconds?

Does he hit hard? It's AOE or single target?

[shell grail]

made them attack their teammate

[shell grail]

aoe

hard

[waxen spoke]

It's a good skill I must say. For example a.lynx only stuns them and Lumi basically does kinda stun+damage. What if opponents fam had ult?

He would use ult on his friends?

[shell grail]

I dont think so, just basic atk

for the field's skill (PVP term) - it not targeted, but quite fast and inflicts fear

[waxen spoke]

i decided to pull it)

hope ill get 2 of them hehe

[shell grail]

GL

[waxen spoke]

lol i got arakness. ive thought that's gonna be Lumi and they gave me stupid arakness

[grizzled latch]

Arak is nice aswell for both pvp and fam arena no?

[waxen spoke]

@grizzled latch I don't like araknes on FA. And in PvP normal people use crab, lion, rimu and stag

[lime storm]

is the gloomie pvp skill homing?? like tarakona?

[waxen spoke]

@lime storm haven't used her

[fossil gazelle]

it isnt homing

its more like arachnes skill

but its quite difficult to dodge it

atleast more difficult than arachnes

[lusty cargo]

In cluu 28 day rare egg is arachness the best fam to get if u want to atk on FA? I already have stag a9

Im thinking arachness is better long term since most FA focused ppl will go for squibby and attacking will only get harder

[shell grail]

her or hippo

hippo is quite good with stag

[lusty cargo]

does anyone know how power transfer buff work in FA?

from what i understand only these stats are transfered, not the stats from specific toys?

[shell grail]

150 heart star
top - attack stat 5% (for type Sup -> Def -> Atk)
left - def stat 5% (for type Atk -> Sup -> Def)
right - hp stat 5% (for type Def -> Atk -> Sup)

cr: @rich hound

[keen verge]

We dont have enough to level it up

The only source is familiar arena season rewards

Also its for familiar arena only. Not grand prix haha

[shell grail]

I just spend all my save to prideful one, a week before they announced the new region.

[rich hound]

agreed. im focusing on attack familiars

Since the team comp usually 2atk,2def,1sup or 3 atk,1def,1sup

[tired mist]

Someone made a YT video about that months ago. Been saving for it since. I thought it was 147 and not 150 tho

[shy spire]

same. what's in the 147 hs then?? at least 150 is but a smidge away from 147 .. dies inside

[shell grail]

147 on kr/jp version is about FA like(not exactly same) global 150

[tired mist]

Makes sense, info was coming from kr servers.
Thank you @shell grail

[shy spire]

ok but what is global 147 about haha

sounds like it uses the same material as 150?

[shell grail]

nope

[shy spire]

oh right, you said prideful

[shell grail]

yeah, edited

[shy spire]

OH haha i saw it after edit

[clear rover]

Did Nermarble nerfed Whippersnapper?

or Did they buffed Gloomie?

[tired mist]

Is Gloomie the same awakening on both? Skill casting is faster with higher awakening I think.

[shy spire]

initial cast speed should be the same regardless of awaken, only CD for next cast is affected by awakening

[tired mist]

Does Gloomie rare toy also make him cast faster?

[clear rover]

If you will kindly watch the video again and focus on the icon on top of every familiar. You will notice that in the 1st match (June 27) Whippersnapper activated its skill first (the Whippersnapper icon on top of Enemy Arachnes and Enemy Ebon). After few milliseconds, Enemy Gloomie skilled as well as My Gloomie (the Gloomie icon debuff on top of My Whippersnapper, and also Enemy

In the 2nd match (July 4), pay attention again to the Familiar icon on top of every familiar. You will see in this match, Enemy Gloomie icon debuff showed up on my whippersnapper first. While my Whippersnapper got hypnotized, it's taunt skill backfired and taunted own teammates. Hence, Gloomie is faster than Whippersnapper now.

[clear rover]

Nope. Gloomie is Attack Familiar.
Gloomie's gloves toy effect is DMG +% and additional DMG to Light familiars +%

[clear rover]

Whippersnapper should be hindering Enemy gloomie's skill.
Only hindering because Taunt duration of Whippersnapper is only 2 seconds. While Gloomie's Hypnotize skill duration at awaken 10 is 3 seconds.
The only thing Whippersnapper can do is to hinder nearby enemies from activating their skills which is also protecting teammates by delaying enemies from activating their skills for at least 2 seconds with taunt.
Last month, Whippersnapper has always been faster than Gloomie but recently, Gloomie is faster than Whippersnapper when activating skill.
Hence, Gloomie is already powerful enough to overpower Whippersnapper... If this unannounced patch buffed Gloomie to permanently be faster than Whippersnapper. Then, Gloomie can be considered broken (Insanely Overpowered).

[keen verge]

The placements is not the same

If you fight with same placements as last month, whipper will skill first again

[clear rover]

I apologize if I couldn't provide my other match last month... because they're no longer available... but whatever the position before, Whippersnapper activates skill before Gloomie.

[clear rover]

I believe this match was last month probably June 28 or June 29.
Keep in mind that Arachnes is RED HP colored bar... pay attention to Arachnes icon on top of familiars.
Whippersnapper and Mite are Arachnes's ally team.
They will get damaged by Arachnes because it is under the debuff of Gloomie (Charm/Hypnotize).

Enemy Whippersnapper was able to skill first. Pause around 0:06 or 0:07

if we are talking about Whippersnapper, pause the video around 0:06 or 0:07 You will see Whippersnapper activated skill first. (Last month: Whippersnapper skills faster than Gloomie)

Pause the video at 0:12 for arachnes skill hitting teammates.

[shell grail]

my #1, holy....

[lusty cargo]

i wonder how much those whales who are FA focused only have spent to get on mega whaling fami strength

[shell grail]

now, its my turn to hesitate.
I can pull 1 more pity, but need 2 copy to make 100% A8.
my plan is to make Relixx (have 1 copy left, hate 50%) or Gloomie to A8 for using that A45 bond power.

[waxen spoke]

@shell grail man, I got only 1 glomie from whole thing. I don't want to go 50, because I already did 2 weeks ago and failed

But after that I did 50% relix and it went a9

[rich hound]

do you know whats his other familiars?

[shell grail]

ebon + 1

is my guess

[rich hound]

okay thankss

[shell grail]

ranked #18 on GP, u can check it out

[clear rover]

Probably front are;
Shrimpaler (or any ranged healer)
Ebon

or if Yolo..
it can also be
Sunshine
Ebon

[rich hound]

LittleQuin?

lol he changed his familars setup

[rich hound]

ooo thats what i did too.. but keep losing haha

[shell grail]

look like the placement didn't affect to ICD anymore, fyi @clear rover

I tested on F.Adventure

it did affect in the past.

idk when this changed

[clear rover]

it changed recently. I think after maintenance or some random patch happened.

@shell grail welp this is sad and disappointing

[clear rover]

Guys! ~ I think my complain have been heard! They might have low key fixed gloomie! Because when I checked the sequence is back to whippersnapper and then followed by gloomie when throwing skill!

This is better because the compatibility of whippersnapper and gloomie will be good again.

Thank you devs!

[lime storm]

maybe just RNG

same with your videos

[clear rover]

I also asked Oscarrr

He also tested and checked but don't worry

We will still keep on monitoring 😁

With this sequence whippersnapper first followed by gloomie.. This is better,

[lime storm]

well goodluck, nerfing rare familiars is good for us f2p anyway 🤗

[clear rover]

Oh I'm also f2p.. Forced2pay 😂 but plankton tier. (spending mostly on familiar related bundles)

I'm not bias and not greedy when it comes to this. I don't want to see the game loses player or customers because of bugs or unannounced changes in familiar arena 😅

[lime storm]

whahaha its okey to spend or not spending as long as thr game is taking your tjme to chill 🤗 nust dont get tilted by javir xD

[clear rover]

Haha so far javir has been good to me but the chest... Meh. I got tons of orb dolls and the problem is.. My orbs are stuck at +15

[lime storm]

why? is it hard to curse orbs? i still not touch my orbs or upgrade it, im waiting for rare ones

[tired mist]

It's hard to get orbs triangles and squares without spending I'll say

[clear rover]

well.. it depends on luck (when enhancing as well as for field boss drop chest + opening that random chest) and my rare dark orb was stuck at 15 for many days... I somehow got it up to 18 recently.

[burnt arch]

I think, the initial cd of both match are the same, It just about the attack animation before skill activate
on the first match, there is a slight delay before whipper start his first attack because he walk down forward a bit and only do 1 normal attack then use skill
the second match, he straightly go crash with taurex which made it fast enough to do the 2nd normal attack before the initial skill cd is done so the skill usage is delay a bit

gloomie is range so the attack timing and skill activation timing will be almost the same on every match, unless there is backline atk speed buff which make her do 3 attack before activate skill

[clear rover]

Thanks for paying attention
True but it didn't only happen to Whippersnapper but to other as well like Dururu.
Last month, Dururu was able to jump but have the Gloomie debuff icon at the same time.. so reaching the destination where he jumped, there was no nearby ally to betray. Which is normal.
When the maintenance happened along with the random patch (ninja patch). It became different. Dururu can no longer jump like before.
I ignored that for a while but.. when I used Gloomie with my Whippersnapper.. There were changes. The synergy was off (the timing was off) It's messed up. That's why I got more curious of "which is which"; was it Gloomie who got buffed? or nerfed Whippersnapper ?.

In the video, the first round.. I usually go with that combo.. Like I said, last month was normal because Whippersnapper skills first before Gloomie. My whippersnapper and Gloomie have a good tandem because of the lock hold they can do. It should always be Whippersnapper and then Gloomie sequence to maximize the duration of the crowd control. As for the individual familiar against each other; Whippersnapper VS Gloomie. Whippersnapper, a defense familiar only hinders Gloomie. While, Gloomie got the upperhand as an Attack familiar. That's why when Gloomie skills first most of the time (after that ninja patch). It became too powerful because of being to skill first and somewhat become more independent to the point of becoming the very first perfect familiar. Which can be considered broken.

Anyway, it's somewhat already** fixed** now ❤️ It's back to normal~ Thank you for the developers and staff who heard my concern and gave their time. ❤️

[waxen spoke]

So much text...

[shell grail]

@clear rover what do u think? Oscarr VS Mazzard

[clear rover]

Well I'd go for Oscarrr

[shell grail]

bias or strat

[clear rover]

Both haha I'm still thinking about the first 2 rounds

But

[shell grail]

Oscarr's 1st is do or die

[clear rover]

For round 3
I believe 80% win rate and if ever Sunshine RNG hits him.. It will only lower down to 65%

[shell grail]

if he can survive to round 3

[clear rover]

Round 1 yes. Yolo team.
I'm looking at Oscarrr's arachnes. If Cactanine jumps at the back and aurora skilled on it. Higher win rate.

As well as if ever auroralynx skilled in the middle where arachnes is.. And it survives, high win rate. As long as arachnes can skill before it dies.. That's good. It served it's purpose 😂

As for round 2...
A lot can happen..
Let's say even if Mazzard's Ursa were to buff CC resist.. As long as Gloomie can charm Mazzard's Arachnes to skill on its own teammates.. Oscarr will have a smooth victory.

[keen verge]

Hmm gloomie will only make enemy famliars normal attack each other but not use skils on them. After the charm effect, arachness will use skill on enemy IF she survives.

[clear rover]

Nope. That is for whippersnapper "taunt". It's different effect with Gloomie. If the familiar got charmed, they can and will use skill on it's own teammates.

[burnt arch]

only enemy that got charmed while using skill then the damage will output to the teammate or else they just do normal attack

[clear rover]

I hope this helps~

In the video, Enemy Ebon and Enemy Toko got debuffed by Sunshine. Just to clarify, the left team doesn't have Sunshine.

@keen verge

[keen verge]

Oh i see

But this is true for sunshine only since their ICD are the same

But arachness doesnt have the same initial cd. Show a video of arachnes using skill against own familiars cuz i havent witnessed it yey

[clear rover]

Its up there

[clear rover]

Here~

@keen verge I sent it like few days ago

In that video, Enemy Arachnes will skill on it's own teammates: [Enemy Mite and Enemy Whippersnapper]. We can easily miss the fact that Arachnes killed Mite (Arachnes' teammates) and also damaged Whippersnapper (Arachnes' teammates).
After that, Whippersnapper is still alive but you can see that Arachnes debuff will show up.

[shell grail]

what's the result? spoil me

[shell grail]

yeah 2-0, as my expectation.
I went back and watch how Mazzard's 2nd team doing and did not work great

[clear rover]

Round 1:

Silence Buff saved the day
Oscarrrr's Silence buff went to Mazzard's Auroralynx
As for the other familiars, Stagthorn got delayed because of Cactanine (it turned around for 1 basic hit) and it died

Round 2:

Support supremacy (Shrimpaler and Floaty Dokey)
Oscarrr's Gloomie may have failed to charm Mazzard's familiar (Ursa's skill CC Resist buff) but Gloomie did contribute some damage and gave space for the backline by tanking it.

[shell grail]

and... I got 6s Sparkee glove from that RNG chest

[clear rover]

I got auroralynx 6* toy

[keen verge]

Wow its real ty for info

What can you say about whipersnapper? I can a6 him but i skipped banner

[clear rover]

You are welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed the video 🙂

[clear rover]

It's usable but of course it depends on certain situation and condition.

I believe Awaken 6 Whippersnapper has a skill cooldown of 28 seconds.
Of course, it is important for the next wave of skills but what if there will be no 2nd wave of skills because you can finish the match as early as possible.

Situation
Whippersnapper's role is to cast its skill at the beginning of the match "delaying" the front line familiars from advancing forward and if ever you have enemy Gloomie... You can still use this Awaken 6 Whippersnapper to hinder enemy's synergy.
Condition
You must have a good damage dealer.

I'll try to provide a video match about Whippersnapper 🙂

[shell grail]

what's this debuff?

[clear rover]

Stunned icon

[lusty cargo]

what u guys think will be meta on FA 3-4 months later?

am trying to decide what familiar to invest to

i dunno if squibby or arachness, I'm inclined to go for arachness because my def is alright vs f2p / low spender and mega whales don't attack that much in FA. while attacking probably gonna get harder and harder in upcoming months when people have higher awake squibby so im thinking better invest in attack lineup. any input is appreciated.

[shell grail]

upper rank, Gloomie
f2p/low spender, I believe that still be stall team

[shell grail]

if your defense stall team looked okay now, I would suggest to start invest on some meta atk fam

u cant go higher if u only attack 3 times a week

[clear rover]

I understand your statement. Your problem is ATTACKING in the future.
I'd say prioritize making your Stagthorn stronger. (High Awaken)

[lusty cargo]

i use all my attack every day

i actually have a9 stag

and is very actively attacking on FA

[shell grail]

yeah, Stagthorn is good against stall team

[lusty cargo]

so I'm thinking arachness + stag will be good

im f2p btw

[clear rover]

For the basic since we get month free rare egg selector (Go for Stagthorn and Hippo)

[lusty cargo]

while I win some lose some on def, i get attacked not that many times

[keen verge]

Thanks!

[lusty cargo]

what about arachness stag?

[shell grail]

until NM kind enough to put Relixx in there

[clear rover]

Arachnes is good but... needs more loving. (High maintenance familiar)

Just like Dinoceros

so for your Top 3 prio familiars from the free rare egg monthly

Stagthorn
Hippocampus
Arachnes
or if you want squibby is also available as your 4th prio

[lusty cargo]

but he's a lot faster casting than dinoceros right

[shell grail]

Stagthorn should out of the list cause u already A9ed him

[lusty cargo]

so in your opinion should i go hippo or arachness?

[clear rover]

Yes but with Hippocampus as your 2nd priority. Not only it can deal damage but it can crowd control.

[shell grail]

that would be enough and efficiency

[lusty cargo]

im inclined more to arachness since hippo can't deal much to squibby lineup high awake

[shell grail]

need other attacker to do the work

[lusty cargo]

im thinking stagthorn+ arachness+ oroboros + toko shrimp can kill a high awake squibby lineup

[shell grail]

do u believe in Mighty Mite?

[clear rover]

I agree with this but since you said you are f2p... I'm just providing the crowd control method as well

Just like this back in the days

Stag Hippo Dino combo

[lusty cargo]

either mite / oro if enemy have squibby

[clear rover]

but if you are fighting 3 sustain (stall team)

[shell grail]

or Suiryu, best Hippo buddy

[clear rover]

you might need Sparkee and Ebon in the team with Stagthorn + 1 crowd controller

[lusty cargo]

most f2p stall lineups are ebon + sunshine + squibby toko shrimp

[clear rover]

let me dig some of my old folders..

[lusty cargo]

i can still beat it now but in the future when they get squibby high awake probably gonna need high dps/ burst

[lusty cargo]

sure sure

im trying to argue for arachness vs hippo

[shell grail]

I used that once and lose against oro ebon mite suiryu toko

[clear rover]

Well you can go for arachnes. It's true for debuff and extra damage

[lusty cargo]

what awake is your squibby?

[shell grail]

7

[shell grail]

the success key is attacking ebon pushing back defending ebon
and the bond powers, support weakening and A45

[lusty cargo]

7 is good enough to lose against that lineup of your enemy. hmm

[clear rover]

but Hippo is for general purpose... the crowd control is very important... it connects with stagthorn synergy

[lusty cargo]

yeah i like very much their synergy for sure

[clear rover]

is it okay if I send some old match (this is the time when the bonding tree havent implemented yet)

[lusty cargo]

sure sure

honestly i like stag + hippo, but i imagine when enemy got the ebon sunshine squibby stall team, it might be hard to burst it

i will only have stag hippo oro to kill squibby and probably can't burst it if it's a10

[shell grail]

these 2 are great to have against 3 sup stall comp

[lusty cargo]

If I use 3 attackes + stag + healer team, my lineup will die out

[shell grail]

another factor is how fast can u kill their tanks

[lusty cargo]

lvl 34 bonding tree for now lol

[shell grail]

which healer?

[lusty cargo]

either toko or shirmp

[shell grail]

but yeah should prob 2 tank 2 atk 1 Shrimp

[shell grail]

cause the defense stall lineup couldn't do much dps, Shrimp will be fine covering yours

[clear rover]

2 healer + 1 shield Flutterby

[shell grail]

actually, I dont like Dino. too much RNG

[clear rover]

this video was long time ago. I didn't have perfect toys that time.

[lusty cargo]

this is very good burst comp

[clear rover]

ok I will send again but this match is recent. Sparkee moment

[shell grail]

Sparkee is quite good if u dont have a decent A.Lynx

[lusty cargo]

better put another attacker instead of bougie i think? if you play vs full stall team u need to burst fast or else dino knocking them back will backfire and let them heal up

[clear rover]

Oh I like experimenting things 😛 hahahaha

[grizzled latch]

Tf is with the music

[clear rover]

Wakanda Forever

[shell grail]

your success key was Stag + Hippo combo

[clear rover]

It's free~ Why not right?

[lusty cargo]

do u not have arachness?

[shell grail]

I dont use her too

[clear rover]

I do but terrible toys -_-

[lusty cargo]

stag hippo archness probably deadly

[clear rover]

well you have a point but it depends on a situation... 😦 we have opponents that are using Gloomie

we don't want her skill to backfire on us.. do we? XD

[lusty cargo]

here usually is my attacking lineup. it's very stronk for now but gonna get out meta soon vs squibby

[clear rover]

wrong position can make you lose

if you are facing that player with relixx

you are dead.

[lusty cargo]

no im not about to attack him lol

so yeah tha's my current atk lineup most of the time

[shell grail]

I was using this lineup against stall team a while ago

[lusty cargo]

this won't work against squibby lineups

but for other comps it's very effective

[clear rover]

almighty mite

[lusty cargo]

mite is lifeee

[shell grail]

worked agains low awaken squibby

[lusty cargo]

stagmite

[clear rover]

by the way, may I ask hows your Ebon?

[lusty cargo]

for now. doom is coming when even f2p have high awake squibby

[lusty cargo]

u asking me or C?

[clear rover]

you

[lusty cargo]

a7 only

[shell grail]

that's why I told u 'a while ago'

[clear rover]

not bad not bad

You will also need Ebon Taurex as F2p because you will rely on it to cancel enemy skill

[lusty cargo]

also squibby is rare he have better stats when a9/a10 than most normals

[lusty cargo]

yeah sadly low awake, mine is sht

[shell grail]

a7 is good enough

but can be better

[lusty cargo]

and my sunshine is also a7

that's why i didn't go for squibby

[shell grail]

this freebie should A10

[clear rover]

Sunshine is scary o_o

god damn RNG

remember KiMooChiiz vs Mazzard

[lusty cargo]

the time sunshine event ran i was inactive only doing dailies so i didn't know he was soo meta 😦

[clear rover]

even your arachnes can miss :))))

[lusty cargo]

now addicted again

[lusty cargo]

yeaaah

but a10 arachness have more accuracy stat than a10 sunshine so still not bad

but yes rng

[lusty cargo]

i meant accu vs eva stat btw

[clear rover]

damn

[shell grail]

If u play PVP too, Archness is a great choice

[lusty cargo]

bro im engi f2p. no chance being useful

hahahahah

[clear rover]

@shell grail what did you get when you combine toys going to rare

[lusty cargo]

a10 rara arachness have 840 accuracy

[shell grail]

I only have 2 rare 6s toys from combination, both go to the red glove

[lusty cargo]

toko have 720 eva

[clear rover]

I dont have jellies XD

but I wanted to try this

[shell grail]

I dont think it cal like that

sunshine minus your accu rate not the raw accu

[lusty cargo]

this im not sure at all

[lusty cargo]

he's very good vs water def teams

[shell grail]

diff stat

[shell grail]

u can do it if u have no plan using him

[lusty cargo]

does familiars have acc rate stat? it doesn't show

[clear rover]

I only went for adventure and I did team it up with Penguicorn Sunshine XD

[shell grail]

I believe it had

[clear rover]

it has

go to your familiar inventory

[lusty cargo]

doesn't show on familiar stats, how will we know?

[clear rover]

Hold click your familiar

hold click on 1 familiar

[lusty cargo]

there is acc stat but not acc "rate"

or am i missing something

[clear rover]

oh thats hidden

along with Movement speed

[shell grail]

u'll know when RNG hit hard on u and losing

[lusty cargo]

i always thought if accu is higher than eva there's 100% hit rate

[shell grail]

nah

[lusty cargo]

so what im only saying is same awake rare vs normal u get higher chance hitting even with sunshine accuracy debuff

well if the stat is hidden hard to talk about it

[clear rover]

This is also the sad part for me when I was experimenting with Hog-goblin

it missed on stunning relixx XD

After that, I seldom use him.

[lusty cargo]

the relix higher or same awake than ur goblin?

[clear rover]

take note that time I have awaken 10 and my opponent only have A8

[lusty cargo]

oh for reals?

[clear rover]

and it freaking missed!

no sunshine too

I was like ooohhh betraying me now heh? hahahahahaha

[lusty cargo]

that doesn't make sense to miss u have higher accuracy

idk lol

[clear rover]

making us go crazy thinking the "whys and the hows"

only thing that I could think of... maybe because dark to dark? XD but thats bullcrap

[lusty cargo]

its fine we still have a cool pokemon game

[shell grail]

that's why I told u that it didn't work like that

there is raw stat and the rate (%) stat

just like crit and crit rate

crit resist and crit resist rate

[clear rover]

yea and the bonding tree XD

raw stats

[lusty cargo]

ah yes the bonding tree

dunno how long it'll take for my lvl 34 to hit lvl 40

need the extra skill for FA lol

[shell grail]

66 in total

[lusty cargo]

oh really that's a lot

i played from the beginning, it might have wasted some evolving materials

welp

[shell grail]

u can see how many u did on rankings -> overall -> misc -> Bonding tree

[lusty cargo]

ohhh i see it thanks

so 18 more to go. not bad

2 gp season probably

anw thanks for inputs much appreciated. i'll be lurker here again 😄

[clear rover]

Yea it's better here because this channel is focused in Familiar contents 🙂

[vale stump]

Hello. Which fams should I use in fam arena? I can't get out of gold.

[clear rover]

for attack or defend?

when it comes to familiars to deploy in arena.. the qualities for best candidates are the following:
High awakening
Jellies (must have jellies before you deploy)
Toys (debatable since we can't control this so it's okay even with general toys equipped except for support familiars)
Bonding tree element
and most important is their role in the team may it be individual or team synergy.

Also, keep in mind defense line up also depends with your bracket/tier and the in-trend line up that we can use is sustain team. Especially for players with limited resources and also base on your familiar inventory.

For defense line up; (sustain team = stalling strategy)

Defense
Option 1:
??????
Dururu
Ebon Taurex
Shrimpaler
Toko

Candidates for that ????? spot:
-Mite
-Sore Boar
-Molten Lion
-Disbeleaf (but need Jellies and good exclusive toy)

least candidates:
-Arachnes (this is good but at awaken 2 its very squishy)
-Sunshine (but its low awaken and no jellies)

[vale stump]

For attack?

[clear rover]

well you got limited resources. For attack it's hard to make one because we will be depending on your opponent's line up

so going back to what I said earlier;
qualities for best candidates are the following:
High awakening
Jellies (must have jellies before you deploy)
Toys (debatable since we can't control this so it's okay even with general toys equipped except for support familiars)
Bonding tree element
and most important is their role in the team may it be individual or team synergy.

if it's attack we will also consider the position where you will place your candidate familiars.

of course for attack,
Suiryu will be included in that candidates.

[vale stump]

I see. Thank you so much! I’ll make sure to focus more on gathering resources so that I can upgrade my other fams.

[plain latch]

same as what i did too, instant went oscar prediction

[tired mist]

If there's one thing I would suggest also would be to stop investing jellies on rare fams that are not a5+ (except squibby maybe). They are very squishy. Instead you could jelly up regular 4* that are high awakening ie Oro, hog, disbeleaf, etc. You will be able to do a 2nd or 3rd gp team that is okay with them and probably get better rewards that will help increase you fam arena team.

[sullen minnow]

Hi! Since we are talking comp suggestions, I seek advice as well. Currently my stall comp is decent, only whales beat me on a regular basis, and can make it into top 100 if people decide to attack me. My problem is attacking, since I don’t have strong attack familiars. As f2p, what would you recommend I get on monthly eggs ? I’m torn between stag and hippo atm. And what future familiar should I start saving for?

Those are my current familiars

Thank you in advanced!

[tired mist]

Stag is a must vs stall comps imo.

[clear rover]

Go for Stagthorn and then slowly build your Hippo

1st and prio to invest Stagthorn
After that, Hippocampus

If you want to beat other player with sustain team / stall team. Then, go for Stagthorn.
But there's also a situation or an option where you can prioritize Hippocampus.

I'm not sure what bracket tier you are in or what are the usual comp. of your enemy line up but good job having A10 Suiryu and A9 Ebon Taurex. It goes perfectly well with Hippocampus.

[lusty cargo]

i just thought of something, when running stag atk comp we can change stag toy to atk toy to increase dps. It's like u got 2 earth atk type in your comp. very helpful against squibby comps

[grizzled latch]

Stag gon ba squishy tho?

[lusty cargo]

Just attack stall comps and there's no problem, use 2 healers

Still have to be tested if stag donna die but ill update

[clear rover]

Okay!~ It's good you are experimenting! I like that! Just be mindful with the buffs of the enemy as well as the buff you are going to use

anyway here is a video of my stagthorn + shrimpaler vs a gloomie comp
(Just don't neglect your bonding tree, jelly enhancements, and toys equipped )

[burnt arch]

my stag rarely tank anything, so I put 3 socks

[lusty cargo]

perfect for stall team

[fluid brook]

can anyone help me counter sunshine squibby stall decks? or am i f*cked?

[shell grail]

I'll give u 2 choices

1. use stag to bring them (the healers at the back) up front
   ex: stag ebon dino arachness with shrimp or toko
   bp: Support Weakening + Ele Syn + frontline rein or backline rein
2. by force
   ex: ebon oro mite arachness with shrimp or toko
   bp: Support Weakening + Hidden Fragments + frontline rein or backline rein

the key is to breakthrough their frontline asap or pull their backline up front, so the Support Weakening is good to have against 2 or 3 support stall comp

[lusty cargo]

Front - stag + ranged healer ( toko/shirmp)
**Make sure put the ranged healer where the enemy taurex is, but u need to put melee attacker in the healer's back so ebon doesn't hit taurex
** The middle back should also be ranged si ebon doesn't hit your stag
** The fam on your stag's back usually should be / oro / mite depends how enemy is positioned

If u have less than 10k cp advantage vs the stall comp better use 2 healer so u dont die

Will be better if you can hit a8+ with your arachness to be useful already

Vs squibby comp ill suggest arachness + oro combo as attacker since u invested arachness already. Put arachness behind stag

[fluid brook]

tried the breaking asap for weeks... everything depends on whether the sunshine pulls -accuracy or not so its unreliable...

will be testing stag this season, never tried stag before cos I cant proc hidden fragments with him...

[shell grail]

it fine that u cant proc hidden fragments, the key is the Support Weakening one

[fluid brook]

Will be testing your suggestions this season. thanks

[shell grail]

u can use ebon stag mite oro toko to proc hf

[tired mist]

On the "Force" point, can Hippo work instead of arach in your opinion? My stag and arach are too weak at the moment.

[shell grail]

my stall was once lost to ebon + toko + 3 starters (all A10)

with the Sup Weak + Hidden Frag + 1

[tired mist]

Ty I'll invest in supp weak and hidden fragments to test it out

[shell grail]

I hadn't try the force myself, always use Stag

[tired mist]

Support weakening does nothing against Shrimp right?

[shell grail]

feel nothing

Shrimp has 0.5 sec cd

with Sup Weak, it'll be 0.5 x 1.1 = 0.55 sec

[shell grail]

Freis is coming next Wed guys

I have to skip, no resources

[clear rover]

Freis/Tori = Fire Support Familiar that can heal and resurrect a dead familiar (revived familiar will have 20% of its max HP)

Awaken 0 = revives dead familiar 10% of its max hp
Awaken 10 = revives dead familiar 20% of its max hp

[shell grail]

cd start from 50s on A0
how long on A3 7 10?

[waxen spoke]

do u guys think that new fam will be cool? im out of tickets and gems

like i can probably do 1 round, but thats it

[grizzled latch]

Yeah same

[shell grail]

cant afford A7, have to skip

IMO

[fossil gazelle]

is freis/tori arena skill cd fixed at 50s

or the cd get lower for each awk level?

[fossil gazelle]

i think it gets lower each awk

i was watching a few grand prix matches with it

[fossil gazelle]

that it in fact the cd gets lower each awk lvl

it shows right there

23s

thats the full cd

i took that ss half a second later it used its skill

from 50s to 23s, sure he must be using 6s toys

but still, 23s for a ress is quite good

[waxen spoke]

50% fail to a8

[torn loom]

Need tips for 3 Teams for gp. My familiars and bounding tree lv41

[waxen spoke]

u have BT 41 and u dont know how to set your teams? looool

shrimp, disb, bull, stag, monkey, sun, mite, suriyu, dururu - top fams

from what u've got

i suggest u to make 2 strong teams using them

i named 9

last one will be oroboros or splisher. just check on what u need - dps or healer\tank

[flat crane]

My water familiars are complete trash

[torn loom]

@shell grail @waxen spoke help me set up a team for offense and defense

The ones that have a checkmark on them are:
A8 Cinder
A9 Bunny bot
A10 Sunshine
A9 Soarboar
A9 Shrimp

[torn loom]

Thank you

This is my BunnyBot

[shell grail]

there is a few of attack fams u got, so cant build variously

and also depends on what kind of def team u want to attack

from what u got, most of those availables are fire

might go for fire ele synergy bond power

dururu + sunshine or bunny + mite + glider +1 (maybe suiryu or kona)

[waxen spoke]

@torn loom try bunny and sun front, shrimp, toko and new fire resurrecting fam back

It's for defence

Attack compositions usually are different from one opponent to another, so it's impossible to make an ultimate team for attack

Idk who casts faster, your bunny or ebon but if ebon u need to swap sun on ebon, so bunny doesn't get canceled. My is a6, I never used I'd, even if it's 666 too

[tired mist]

Is Hog-goblin usable in GP? I somehow got good toys for him sadly 6r66 but only a7

[lusty cargo]

sure he is depends on ur lineup

[rich sage]

i just.. curblessed getting 6 star and even rare for this rat, is he usable in attacking or defending?

ah and he still a6 on me, literally witch kitchen doesnt even give any

[shell grail]

1 of my fav

can be use both attacking and defending

[rich sage]

walao so he actually fine? here not much using him so i dunnno how to actually use this rat...

but wow 390 seems like i gotta start investing in this one

[shell grail]

u can wait until it's A10

he has his role, space creator

[lusty cargo]

sure hope they release arachness banner in the ff months.. gonna be always 50/50 against stall comps

[lusty cargo]

best vs squibby comps?

[shell grail]

replace 1 healer to attacker

[lusty cargo]

Atleast 1 of my attackers die even vs stall comps with ebon taurex. Needs atleast 15-20k cp gap for 1 healer to work

[shell grail]

and more important, u might need Support Weakening

your arachness is too weak

got cancelled easily by ebon

and died doing nothing

[lusty cargo]

Yep ik im still not using my arach only a6 now. Just thinking about it for now

He dies even with 2 healers on my team vs a10 sunshine comps

[shell grail]

another tank replace your arachness

u can replace ele synergy with support weakening

for more replaceable fams

I still want u to reduce your healer to 1

and I prefer Shrimp over Toko

from my exp, I used the fire/dark for Ele syn

[shell grail]

u got Stag then combine with the Support Weakening bond power

u might need strong light or dark to get pass their frontlines asap (usually ebon + sun)

[waxen spoke]

true, also have put him into one of my GP teams

[rich sage]

Oh he good also in gp? But a6 still bit bad to use yes?

[gritty grotto]

Hi guys just wanna ask should i put jellies on my other familliars or just focus the one that i mostly use?

[shell grail]

IMHO, stop investing to Soar Boar

Flutterby is quite good to invest

[gritty grotto]

Im using him because i dont have good familliar to replace him in FA def

[gritty grotto]

Ohh light def? But should i focus my jelly only those who i use mostly in FA/GP or put jellies also to those high awakes

But sparkee for me too soft

The problem is i only have 1 rare toy and its feather

[shell grail]

doubt that VS its own rare

its own rare give +12% heal recovery and +12% atk spd

while rare feather give +8% max hp and +4% atk spd

[gritty grotto]

Ill try that

[shell grail]

u can try that stall def strat with A2 squibby

but need jellies, I guess

[shell grail]

this will make you low cp to bait

[gritty grotto]

Yeah yeah i save jellies again

I replace boar to squibby?

[shell grail]

the key is your frontline need to be tanky enough

u can transfer jellies from boar, if u dont use him anymore

ebon sun toko shrimp squib

[gritty grotto]

Squibby
Toko Shrimp
Disbelief Sunshine

[shell grail]

a7 ebon is quite good now

what's your rank currently?

[gritty grotto]

2% ish

2-3%

[shell grail]

front -> ebon sun
back -> toko shrimp squib
u can swith any position but should be in that front and back

[gritty grotto]

Then what to hide sunshine ebon?

[shell grail]

yeah

or hide sun and squib

[gritty grotto]

Ill change my bond skill

I dont have front reinforcement

I choose the support weakening

[shell grail]

because u will use the bond skill, frontline reinforcement and attack weakening

[shell grail]

so u can equip 3

[gritty grotto]

Yes

[shell grail]

front rein + attack weakening + back rein or 20% HP rng shield

back rein can help on your attack

[gritty grotto]

Ill remove def and supp weakening maybe

[shell grail]

so u must decide yourself

supp weak is great against stall def strat

[gritty grotto]

But not enough bond points

[shell grail]

yeah

[gritty grotto]

Im using elemental and hidden fragment for attacking

[shell grail]

replace def weak with front rein

[gritty grotto]

Ill try to fix it can reset anytime

[shell grail]

for now

u can try this stall def strat

[gritty grotto]

Thankyou so much

[shell grail]

and compare to your current def