Familiar Arena QA

[tawdry coyote]

You wanna save for Relixx come February

Unless they decide to push it forward

[shell grail]

they hint some pic on #🙏｜2023-wish

did u see it?

[tawdry coyote]

The green dog dragon tunneler

Is also meta too

[tawdry coyote]

Nope

[digital spoke]

high chance

[shell grail]

maybe soon enough

[tawdry coyote]

Oh goodness

[shell grail]

but dont expect too much

[tawdry coyote]

Time to quit

Don't wanna spend anymore

Haven't spent on familiars since Alynx

[shell grail]

me too

[royal copper]

Yeah definitely trying to go for a7 Relixx

[shell grail]

just some free tickets

[tawdry coyote]

But great comp will be

[royal copper]

Talking about Cactus?

[tawdry coyote]

Ye

[royal copper]

I heard it is a great one too

Might go for a3 only though lol

[shell grail]

oh, dururu is quite good too

worth to make him a10

[royal copper]

Bruh I haven't gotten any drops from the last 2 weeks

No biscuits or dururu itself

[tawdry coyote]

Taurex Relixx
Alynx
Toko Dururu

[royal copper]

Only gotten dururu and biscuits on patch day lol

Managed to get it to a8 on 1st week

[tawdry coyote]

My Dururu still A7

I'm about to call it quits, lol

[shell grail]

mine was a9 + 1 and 2 biscuits

high chance for me

but anything can happen

this scum drop rate

[tawdry coyote]

Like shadow nerf to drop rate

Only respectable drop rate was Tokotoko

[royal copper]

Seems like it was heavily nerfed

Then no dururu drops on hard mode too

[shell grail]

nah, that happen to me on Toko

[royal copper]

It feels so useless trying to do hard mode everytime lol

[shell grail]

had to use diamond for some extra tickets

[tawdry coyote]

Waah, y'all keeping me up

[shell grail]

5s toys worth the hardwork

[tawdry coyote]

[shell grail]

not a single 5s for me

20 runs now for hard mode

fark

[tawdry coyote]

Didn't realize this thread would pop off when I first made it. I think it's cause @shell grail kept endorsing it, lol

[royal copper]

5s toys does help out but its kinda rough when you only have low awakened dururu

[tawdry coyote]

Yeah, low awakening Dururu is poopoopoo

[shell grail]

just to keep it clean

on this FA topic

[tawdry coyote]

Mmk, I'm sleeping for real now

[shell grail]

gn

I gotta go too

cyall

[tawdry coyote]

This shows ebon charge p3 vs p1

[regal ledge]

Why Defending Ebon always cannot cast his skill against this team? Anyone know?

[regal ledge]

Both A10 Ebon

[shell grail]

more foot step

[regal ledge]

Doesnt the attacking ebon take the same amount of steps too?

[shell grail]

nope, Dururu is melee, right?

[regal ledge]

attacking Ebon walked to defending Ebon, ignored Dururu

[regal ledge]

oh no you are right, I watched the wrong replay.

[regal ledge]

What about this one, they were head on. Defending Ebon still couldn't use his skill

[shell grail]

a10 both?

[regal ledge]

yeah

[shell grail]

not sure, wait for @tawdry coyote master.

[regal ledge]

cool thx

[digital spoke]

Issit because of the last 3 fam. They are CC right

[regal ledge]

flutter has no cc?

[dusky wind]

I have 3 egg selectors, should I start building a Squiby or focus on one of the Awakenings I already have?

[digital spoke]

Stag seems okay

[tawdry coyote]

Defending usually has priority but it's a numbers game (%) I believe. If it were in position 3, it should've charged first.

[tawdry coyote]

I would either hold off or use on hippo to A5. Break points are A3, A7, A10. But you do get stats along the way.

A3 rares for the most part are pointless. You might as well invest heavily in one from egg selectors than spread your resources thin, and end up with a bunch of mediocrity.

If you prefer stall, molten lion, since it's already gummied and Relixx coming out.

From selectors, the noteworthy are Arachnes, Bunnybot, Squibby, then Hippo then others. Arachnes is high burst and provides damage debuff, Bunnybot blocks hits and mitigates cc, Squibby heals and mitigates dmg.

[regal ledge]

pos 3 def ebon never wanted to charge first 🥲

[tawdry coyote]

Behind Alynx?

[dusky wind]

How Relixx interacts with Molten Lion?

[dusky wind]

Id rather focus on building a more offensive team to try to climb more ranks

[tawdry coyote]

Not much, people just might be more offensive with Relixx coming out after such a long stall meta.

[dusky wind]

Ive seen ppl using Taurex + Boar + Molten on Def team, is that any relevant on top 10?

[tawdry coyote]

Boar isn't, no.

Unless you're in a very low paying server.

[dusky wind]

I think I might be... this is my go-to atk team, usually only swapping positions

Im constantly top20

[tawdry coyote]

Seems fine

Although for stall comps, you might want A10 Suiryū

[dusky wind]

based on that I wanted to use my selector to get more options on atk

[tawdry coyote]

If you pull in the future on banners, if you can't get A7, maybe hold off.

[dusky wind]

Suiryū currently a7 =/ but already maxed

[tawdry coyote]

I recommended upgrading your A3 hippo. It's low/medium burst cc like cat.

A3 Arachnes wouldn't survive more than once cast if even.

[dusky wind]

I like Arach, but would need at least A7, right?

[tawdry coyote]

Yes, and even then, I only make use of it because I have A10 bunnybot.

[dusky wind]

Should I then hold on to the eggs, maybe see if I can get a couple more to do a big boost on one Familar? I also think one A7-10 makes a greater impact on FA

[regal ledge]

yeah

[dusky wind]

Also assuming Helixx is next, is it worth getting it only to A3? or should I save and invest higher on another (like the sun, cactus or petal)

[tawdry coyote]

Lemme see, there's one positioning I've used where P3 Taurex doesn't charge P1.

[tawdry coyote]

all of these I charged first. I think the only time was when I had two small melee in 4/5 and Tokotoko in 2.

So I think Squibby in 2 and the melee in 4/5 would be similar. I haven't repeated that too many times though, because I don't like to repeatedly lose.

[regal ledge]

I think I see the difference, the defending ebon in your screenshots are in pos 1, while the one in mine, both ebon are in pos 3

[regal ledge]

I don't like to lose either haha

[tawdry coyote]

well if it's p1 p1, then it is up to chance.

same with p3 p3.

[regal ledge]

but this chance is so favourable to the attacker that it is not understandable

[tawdry coyote]

There are ways of increasing odds with placement of units their size and melee/ranged.

[regal ledge]

it was 5 matches with the same attacker, all 5 my ebon didnt charge

[tawdry coyote]

and it was the p1 p1 ?

[regal ledge]

p3 v p3

[tawdry coyote]

when does your Dururu go off?

[regal ledge]

a10 dururu

[tawdry coyote]

Does their Taurex attack your Dururu first?

[regal ledge]

let me see if I can catch the timing of dururu skill

[tawdry coyote]

It is probably cause Dururu moves forward

But you said it was Alynx P1 Taurex P3 ?

on your side?

[regal ledge]

dururu uses his skill before my ebon

[regal ledge]

yes

[tawdry coyote]

Stag moves forward tho doesn't it?

since they nerfed its range

[regal ledge]

1st match stag didnt move an inch

same as 2nd match

3rd match was the same as the 2nd

[tawdry coyote]

Does that happen without Dururu?

[regal ledge]

4th one same as well lol, repeated lost

I never removed Dururu so I don't know yet

[tawdry coyote]

That's the only thing I can see.

[regal ledge]

I tried other defenders to replace dururu but that made me die faster haha

[tawdry coyote]

have you ever put Dururu in p2?

[regal ledge]

Maybe my ebon got confused because dururu just jumped away

Yes I tried that!

ebon pos 1 and dururu pos 2

vs their ebon pos 3 and I win

[tawdry coyote]

oh

ebon pos 3 will always win that

[regal ledge]

I don't understand?

but my pos 1 ebon won their pos 3 ebon

[tawdry coyote]

eh?

what were other placements

so it was:
Alynx Taurex
Shrimpaler*
Squibby Dururu ?

[regal ledge]

I think my Ebon is just a lost cow when paired with Dururu

[tawdry coyote]

lemme check my alt

[regal ledge]

pos 1 ebon charged at pos 2 arachnes so their pos 3 ebon missed their skill on my ebon

[tawdry coyote]

Arachnes didn't move like it normally did because of Dururu?

That's the only reason I can think of.

[regal ledge]

Arachnes moved to Dururu, so they both walked towards each other

[tawdry coyote]

Dururu skill goes off before Ebon

[regal ledge]

yea

[tawdry coyote]

so then

[regal ledge]

where did the defending ebon walk to?

[tawdry coyote]

your Ebon targetted Arachnes after that?

[regal ledge]

no, ebon and dururu both walk to Arachnes

[tawdry coyote]

cat is large ranged tho

[regal ledge]

yes my ebon does the same too, walks towards their stag and ebon

[tawdry coyote]

in this pos, my ebon charges first.

[regal ledge]

but I realise that their pos 3 ebon takes a different path around stag , if he walks under stag, then he will charge first at my ebon

[tawdry coyote]

ah

more steps

cause Stag is large unit

[regal ledge]

more steps mean that it will charge first?

if their ebon walks above stag, my pos 3 ebon charges first

but their ebon almost always take the bottom path

even though I charge first I still lose lol

[tawdry coyote]

Can you show me screenshot of how they move?

[regal ledge]

ok gimme a sec

dururu and their ebon used their skill at the same time and then my ebon used his skill

[tawdry coyote]

It looks like Dururu pathing is making their Taurex charge

So your Dururu is interrupting their team?

[regal ledge]

I don't know if it can be considered as interrupting their team, after this screenshot, Dururu jumped to the back

[tawdry coyote]

well they all get knocked down by Dururu skill right?

[regal ledge]

It looks like everyone was trying to attack my Dururu

[tawdry coyote]

that's what it looks like in screenshot

[regal ledge]

dururu knocked down shrimp at the back

[tawdry coyote]

oh so only one knockdown

[regal ledge]

yeah

[tawdry coyote]

mnmk

I tested only Dururu p2 Ebon p3 no other units

[regal ledge]

what happens?

[tawdry coyote]

Dururu makes their units proc with Dururu, then Ebon charges when it gets target and in range

[regal ledge]

yes thats what happened but their ebon still made it 1 sec before my ebon

[tawdry coyote]

Because of Dururu

[regal ledge]

hmmm...

[regal ledge]

So I think best is not to have Dururu get in my Ebon's way or else it messes up

[tawdry coyote]

I tried Ebon p1 Dururu p2. they go off same time

[regal ledge]

Yes that worked for me too

So Ebon can’t go behind dururu

But I wonder what if Ebon p3 dururu p5/p2 If it makes a difference

[tawdry coyote]

The thing is

when I replay

even tho the skills supposedly go off at the same time

Dururu becomes untaregettable way before Taurex charges

this is p1 Dururu p2 Taurex

[digital spoke]

I’m starting to know how to play fam arena well 😃😃

[tawdry coyote]

This is p3 Taurex and p1 Dururu

skills not even going off at same time

p1 Taurex p2 Dururu

[tawdry coyote]

[tawdry coyote]

When I switch to p1 Taurex and p5 Dururu they go off same time

[regal ledge]

That’s funny? Why?

[tawdry coyote]

Dururu has to go further. Units move towards Taurex first.

[regal ledge]

So if everyone targets Ebon, Ebon will charge first

But if everyone targets dururu, Ebon will fail

[tawdry coyote]

okay

I found something weird

On Attack: only small melee in p3 and flutterby in p5 VS melee p1-p3 flutterby p5 my flutterby always goes first. If I add all small melee to 1-4 and p5 flutterby, my flutterby will never go first. If it is p1 small melee p2 flutterby it will go last, but if the rest are small melee p2 will go first or same time.

p1 Dururu p2 Flutterby, both go at same time after their Flutterby

p3 Dururu p5 Fluttterby, both go at same time first

p1 Dururu p5 Flutterby, both go off first

[regal ledge]

Great finding! Thanks for the info! But I wonder why it’s like that ?

[tawdry coyote]

p5 Dururu p1 Flutterby, Dururu goes off first Flutterby go off same time

[regal ledge]

I don’t understand how the order of placement can change skill casting time

[tawdry coyote]

You can roughly see when skills are ready by portrait (it is a bad indicator, but it is something). When they actually cast is different though.

[regal ledge]

Yea it’s not in sync

[tawdry coyote]

When I fill 2-4 with melee with same, p5 Dururu p1 Flutterby, both go off at same time as other Flutterby

[regal ledge]

Does that mean dururu is best to be placed at p5?

[tawdry coyote]

I tried with all large melee instead now 1-4 and Dururu 5 and it still goes first

now I try with Squibby p2

seems to go same time as Flutterby

1-4 all small ranged Dururu 5, same time

1 Dururu 2-5 small ranged, Dururu goes same time*

3 Dururu 1,2,4,5 small ranged, Dururu goes first

So order, unit size, melee/range make a big difference

[regal ledge]

Gosh ok I’ll have to work out with my comp

[tawdry coyote]

So from what it looks like, Bunnybot, Arachnes, Taurex have same priority. Dururu and Flutterby are higher. However, during cast, Taurex can interrupt while Bunnybot and Arachnes can be interrupted.

but my Arachnes is A7 and Bunnybot A10

so idk if A10 Arachnes cast is faster

lemme check history, I think they should be same

[regal ledge]

Cool

[tawdry coyote]

same time

[regal ledge]

A10 a7 same time ?

[tawdry coyote]

yes

[regal ledge]

Interesting

[tawdry coyote]

Defense p3 Taurex p1 cat works differently than attack

looks like most times, p3 def Taurex takes the long route around cat and doesn't get aggro first, so it charges second (gets interrupted by charge)..

[regal ledge]

Yea so maybe cat is better to be placed elsewhere

[regal ledge]

Thanks for your analysis, it’s very helpful 🥰

[tawdry coyote]

too bad it is only on attack side

[regal ledge]

Too complicated haha

[tawdry coyote]

I asked my friends to attack me, but it will take a LONG time

[regal ledge]

Haha that’s ok, not in a rush

[digital spoke]

😌😌I use toko pos1 to block enemy mite pos1 😂

[tawdry coyote]

That sounds like a bad idea.

梅干しちゃん

[digital spoke]

work well though

[tawdry coyote]

If you have Taurex behind

[digital spoke]

I lost to this lol

Is this lineup strong ? 😂

[tawdry coyote]

Molten only A3

I'd use your Tokotoko, Boar, Taurex, Mite, Suiryū+Hippo and/or Shrimpaler

For attack: Mite, Taurex, Suiryū, Hippo, Tokotoko not that order. Preferable order if opponent is p1 Taurex:
Taurex Suiryū
Hippo
Mite Toko

[digital spoke]

I tried for attack but REKT
Hippo. Mite
Toko. Taurex
Suiryuu

[tawdry coyote]

vs who/what team comp?

I gave you general team comp

[digital spoke]

Any idea for mite to target frontline

[tawdry coyote]

To kill a mite in frontline???

Or your mite to target their frontline?

[digital spoke]

This . target backline I mean😂

[tawdry coyote]

わかんない。

Oh your mite target their back

It has to survive

Mite usually dies very fast, but deals a lot of damage and does cc

If you have Mite & Taurex same line, it will sometimes survive to get more than one skill off.

@digital spoke

[digital spoke]

That’s why . I might try again when I max jelly for him. might go for 3 gloves . who can kill him easily?

[tawdry coyote]

Who can kill mite easily? Any damage dealer.

[brazen island]

Wtf 30 ticket no dururu n biscuit

Is it worth it or not

[digital spoke]

Open only if you have spare

[shell grail]

@bitter wing try here

[bitter wing]

suggest me for arena plss

[shell grail]

what's your current rank? how high u aim for?
what's your current setup?

[bitter wing]

dunno, only got gold 1 now
just max potential what i hv

[digital spoke]

Any good lineup to win staghorn

[tawdry coyote]

@regal ledge always fight same comp on def, and always lose. They have all rares A10. This time, my cow charge before theirs and before Ursa proc (A10 Ursa is 100%). So there is always RNG component...

[tawdry coyote]

Depends what awakening stag and what fire/grass/light/dark familiars* you have available.

For the most part, a stag pulling a Kona/Flynx/Mite is bad unless there is follow up to instakill or kill before next skill rotation in the case of Mite.

The hypothetical I give is if the Kona/Flynx/Mite are appropriately awakened ofc. Not just A0 or A3.

[digital spoke]

unfortunately i only have mite a7, the nearest is oro a4

[tawdry coyote]

Don't bother with low awaken rares in familiar arena. They won't do you any good.

[digital spoke]

i guess the min to be good in arena will be 7 at least

[tawdry coyote]

It depends on your rank and spending habits of players in your server, but A5-7 is where stats get high enough to maybe matter, and A7 in particular is a breakpoint.

It also depends on what role that familiar has. A lower awakening Hippo may be fine, because it is usually in back row where it is "safer" whereas Stag is frontline and would just melt to any amount of reasonable dps say lower awakening.

If your other units make up for the deficit in a low awakening Hippo, and the grouping up cc is vital to your teamcomp, then it may be viable vs certain team comps.

This is just an example ofc. I'm not saying go all out for Hippo.

https://tenor.com/view/funny-hippo-relaxing-gif-12858200

[digital spoke]

stag is just too annoying, the suck dem

[regal ledge]

ok I hate this RNG haha. Thanks for testing bunny!

[feral shadow]

Did byrde nerfed again? Even when its able to cast his skill 2-3 times dmg still super low (20-30k total for all fight)/

[dusty wigeon]

Yes.

I am writing to express my outrage and disappointment with the recent nerf to the familiar "Byrde". This change has significantly impacted my gameplay experience and I feel that I am being unfairly prejudiced by it.

I had a Byrde at awakening level 10, and before the nerf it was dealing 120% damage. Now it is only dealing 100%, which is a huge decrease in its effectiveness. I have invested both time and money into this game, and it is unacceptable for you to make such a drastic change without any warning or notification to the players.

Your lack of transparency and communication is unacceptable, and as a paying customer, I expect explanations for these kinds of changes. Your actions have shown a complete lack of consideration for the players who have supported your game, and I am deeply disappointed in the way this situation has been handled.

I demand answers and an explanation for this unacceptable change. As a player who has invested so much into this game, I deserve to be treated with respect and to have my concerns addressed.

[dusky wind]

which familiar should I focus on equipping first? I have two 5* toy selector, and they are all with 3 of their respective 4* toys (except Toko, which hast 6/5/5)

[shell grail]

ebon

[dusky wind]

cool, will do it, after that Alynx or Mite/Oro?

[shell grail]

a.lynx

[dusky wind]

So, this guy already attacked me 9 times… I can't think of a way to beat his attack... any ideas?

In every battle, my Taurex push his Toko to the back and stays there until it dies, while his Boar just holds my team with his health bar barely moving

[digital spoke]

Show us your fam list

[digital spoke]

yay! grinding slowly.

[shell grail]

hard to say, try swap you boar/ebon position, replace a.lynx with Oro.

[shell grail]

try ebon mite boar suiryu toko

[shell grail]

FYI, new Familiar is coming this Jan 11.

src: TH Official FB Fanpage

[rugged bridge]

What ?!! i'm suprised this is coming earlier

[stray marlin]

Hi ' im new here.
Player from Sand Virgo
only focusing on FA

[keen verge]

In which part did it say jan 11? Sry cant find it

[shell grail]

the bottom part

[keen verge]

Oh thats january 11? Cant read thai lol

[shell grail]

@tawdry coyote, should I use my dias to a10 Dururu? I need 1 more copy + 4 biscuits (or 2 copy). damn, such an unlucky 10 run for me.

[shell grail]

nvm, I did it already. xD

[dusky wind]

got it at the end?

[dusky wind]

What is the Relixx role in the familiar arena? and what are his skills?

[shell grail]

spent it

😄

[dusky wind]

[topaz shoal]

hi can someone make me team?

[shell grail]

poor yeti, dont have Toko.
how your Disbeleaf? toys?

[topaz shoal]

disbelead a8

toys are ass

[shell grail]

go full offense? idk LMAO no toko

[topaz shoal]

[shell grail]

wait for other opinion

[topaz shoal]

i will give any1 0.5 nkt who solve my problem

[stray marlin]

ahh

in def team

but in ATK team u need focus to enemy position and main ATK use ...

[topaz shoal]

wow

i am in awe

[topaz shoal]

ty sm man

[shell grail]

try that and report us

[lunar fractal]

you can try this setup for atk

p1 - Mite/Oro/Dururu
p2 - Disbeleaf
p3 - Alynx
p4 - Hippo
p5 - Ebon

Special Cases (if ebon is common in your server's lineups):
Mite: if this fam is in front of ebon. they will go 1v1 and ebon will prio mite for the charge. you can try what suits you better (full dmg or defensive toys)

Oro: if in front of ebon, tested a few times but for some reason oro ignores ebon and goes directly to the next fam in the back thus making enemy ebon dash towards oro but the movement is towards their side (utilizing hippo's skill making its 1st proc to hit 2-3 enemy fams + alynx' knead)

Dururu: if in front of ebon, it is highly likely going to delay enemy ebon's 1st skill cast since dururu will move towards enemy ebon then do 1 normal atk and then cast it's skill (needs decent toys tho to be able to delay enemy backline)

oro pos1 then dururu pos2 movement

the time enemy ebon charges back towards my oro. ez 4 fam target for hippo's torrent afterwards since enemy ebon got +1 prio for the charge since it's on def side

[topaz shoal]

ok will try too

[topaz shoal]

@shell grail

i have question

what awaken is squibby good at?

[shell grail]

7 or 8+ to replace a10 Toko

[topaz shoal]

ah sht

[topaz shoal]

why not a3

i rlly wanna use it but a7 way to high

[shell grail]

u can try cause u have a4 Shrimp

a3 squibby > 0 Toko

for sure

[topaz shoal]

problem is my squibby a0

[shell grail]

want some? 😏

[topaz shoal]

Yes

If they rerun swuibby i think i might pull xD

[lunar fractal]

WP. good to know it worked. (enemy's toko and boar got isolated perfectly and the shirmp doesn't know who to prio heal afterwards )

side note: gained additional info that ebon could also charge directly on the backline. i'll try experimenting on that as well

[digital spoke]

should I replace mite a7 with a7 dururu

[lunar fractal]

totally dependent on you team comp and toys. if dururu + 4 other ranged fam (a bit risky since enemy tank/melee fam can go directly to your backline) otherwise a viable choice if paired with another melee or tank fam in pos 1/2/3/5 except for staghorn

[rugged bridge]

Based on same awaken, mite will deal much more damage than dururu
but dururu can be usefull for countering hippo/toko at the enemy back line

Just made it from 6 to 9 on 50/50, now i'm safe to 10

[lunar fractal]

dang so lucky. i spent 6k additional dias + dururu pass to make mine a10. good thing tho the hard mode also dropped a decent amount of 5s toy

[shell grail]

no Dururu's 5s toy for me

[lunar fractal]

dururu's doing a good job so far in FA for me, just around ~100 pts away from top 100. I just need to rework and constantly shuffle my def setup

[rugged bridge]

dang, what 6k dias? thats 20 more tickets, i even didn't spent any dias but only bought the pass.
and i got four 5 stars Dururu toys as well, yeah i feel lucky and hope dururu gonna doing well in FA.

[lunar fractal]

+30 tix. all awakes tho were 100% chance until a10

[rugged bridge]

Ahh i see, u are playing more safety i failed once from 7 to 8, and the rest succesful.

[topaz shoal]

@shell grail idk what to do man i still struggle againts ppl

in arena

should i just go for relix in hopes i get a3 and i get other fams?

[shell grail]

IMO, no

[topaz shoal]

so what can i do to not struggle anymore?

[shell grail]

I mean, u shouldn't hope that a3 Relixx will push u up.

but u can try and hope for other normal 4s to strengthen your current lineup

[topaz shoal]

if you were me you would pull for the normal 4 stars?

and relix as a bonus?

cause i can always get rellix from chest

so in the long run i can get like awakn 7 on it

cause that is my thought rn

[shell grail]

yeah, I might

it kinda really hard for u cause no Toko

[topaz shoal]

from 19k gems and 120 ticket i got 1 firelynx 1 kona 1 pitty relix @shell grail

stupid game

[lunar fractal]

sheeesh good thing i didn't use any dias to pull. only used 73 pcs summon tix and got 1 dino only hahaha

[topaz shoal]

i dont know what to do with 1 rellix

pvp maybe

[shell grail]

found some a7 Relixx in action

he lose

@tawdry coyote, should I pull? my arachness not ready.

I hesitate now. xD

[tawdry coyote]

go for it

A10 that Relixx

[shell grail]

I cant afford a10, only a7 maybe

[tawdry coyote]

I bought the lotto bags and got special egg

Yolo 50% Arachnes to A8

[shell grail]

thats nice

[tawdry coyote]

[tawdry coyote]

If you can't A7, don't get.

[shell grail]

yeah, might go for a7

[tawdry coyote]

Relixx under A7 is like any other melee rare under A7.

Free food

My defense at 382 after awakening Arachnes

Hopefully login egg is also successful

[tawdry coyote]

1 Relixx is for pvp. Is like a Kona

[tawdry coyote]

A7

[tawdry coyote]

Welcome. It's a bit hard to read, could you send them separately?

[tawdry coyote]

Relixx is ranged* with burst and disable

[shell grail]

relixx is range bro

[tawdry coyote]

Range is super short

[shell grail]

not what I saw

I send a vid later

[digital spoke]

replace with kona ? :3

[topaz shoal]

Fam arena is making me sad

[tawdry coyote]

I have on KR

Been using since before launch here

Unless there's a difference with global

[topaz shoal]

I cant get out of top 20% because of toko

[tawdry coyote]

Like Arachnes initially

[tawdry coyote]

Use A10 Shrimpaler

[topaz shoal]

My shrimp only a5

[tawdry coyote]

Eh?

[shell grail]

Im pretty sure hes range

[tawdry coyote]

I fixed

[topaz shoal]

Relix is range

[tawdry coyote]

At same awakening it fulfills Kona role better in FA. In PvP should use both.

[digital spoke]

that's true...

Kona fireball can be dodged by rolling ? 😮

[shell grail]

kona skill is homing

[shell grail]

I can do that once

[tawdry coyote]

Only within a few frames can you dodge Kona fireball

99 times out of 100 you'll get hit trying to dodge

[digital spoke]

[tawdry coyote]

I'm gonna sleep soon

[shell grail]

pull later?

[tawdry coyote]

Am I pulling later?

[shell grail]

yeah

will u?

[tawdry coyote]

I'm trying to quit for months now, lololol. I don't wanna have to pull Relixx

[shell grail]

haha

[tawdry coyote]

I might pull near end of month if I have enough diamonds and tickets

[dusky wind]

Need 2 more copies then… only missing the crystals for it

[shell grail]

u have 27 days more

[tawdry coyote]

You can do it!!!

Mmk, just checked in KR, cat and Relixx range the same now.

[dusky wind]

Not sure if it is worth spending more on tickets to go from A5 to A7,

[tawdry coyote]

It is

Everyone else will have at least A7 in top 10

Many will have A9 if not A10 in my server

Next good thing we get is cactus

[digital spoke]

i would say save for cactus

[topaz shoal]

this deck sometimes win and sometime loose

i am confuson

any ideas what to do?

or is ther enothing to do

'

[shell grail]

learn your enemies, there is no general attack team which win all enemies.

[topaz shoal]

aw

maybe is it my toys?

[shell grail]

I'll try relixx comp for 1 day, then back to previous one because the end of season is near.
might try more relixx comp after the begin of new season.

[topaz shoal]

what a is your relix?

[shell grail]

a7

[topaz shoal]

Wtf

Whale!

What a is your aurora?

[shell grail]

same

[topaz shoal]

O wow

Do you buy diamonds or how does whaling work?

[shell grail]

old tickets + dias

[topaz shoal]

Mmm

Its just toko man

If i have toko

Easy asterite

Faaak

[lunar fractal]

best way i guess is to repeatedly atk those peeps that you are winning and prio atk those with kind of same team comp and also check if their team's CP is only for show (like equipping 5s ebon toy to a sore boar)

[topaz shoal]

How to check?

Most of my toys are 4*

[lunar fractal]

keep tabs or screencaps of your enemy team and cp as well so you can know if they are likely using the same team comp or not or if they probably upgraded some fams

[shell grail]

@lunar fractal how your Dururu doing? I want to try him, but I dont have any spec. 5s for him.

[topaz shoal]

Idk to how inprove

[lunar fractal]

doing its job so far for now esp on atk. but setup kinda sucks on def

[topaz shoal]

Show me u lineup

And in your opinion what fam is best to invest in for the long run

[lunar fractal]

the one's you often get and fits or complement each other

[lunar fractal]

oro a9
dururu a10
toko a9
hippo a4
suiryu a6

[topaz shoal]

A6 suiry does the job?

[lunar fractal]

Not much but it kinda help. I use this setup to atk double water fam enemies or low toy bts setups

Oro is tank build. 2 5s jacket and 1 5s feather. The rest all got exclusive toys majority is 5s and a few 4s

[coral maple]

Toko

[topaz shoal]

@lunar fractal

[lunar fractal]

ran out of time?

[tawdry coyote]

Hippo and Auralynx are pretty low DPS, without frostbite, hippo does even less, so I would replace with Suiryū high awaken or the other RGB.

[tawdry coyote]

You can also just make spreadsheet of the cp of all individual familiars from the details screen at end of fight, compile all their familiars and know what they run based off of revealed cp and what if any awakening/toy changes occur.

I may or may not have done this for a while.

Only generic toys alter cp by their % raise in stats. Familiar-specific toys are flat increase because they do not provide stats that apply towards cp (e.g., +%dmg increase does not increase cp but +%atk does).

[topaz shoal]

no just died quickly

[topaz shoal]

replace hippo with suriyu?

[rugged bridge]

My Toko is only awaken 6, and i reached Top38 like 2 weeks ago.
and now i replacing him with Disbelief when it reached awk 9,
yeah i'm late to play Nnk, but there is nothing to do for awakening Toko until rerun come,
we just better focusing on another healer atm... either Disbelief or Shrimpaler.

[topaz shoal]

how to use disbeleaf properly man

it just dies out way to quickly at my end

[keen verge]

@tawdry coyote i have a10 relix. i noticed his ATK multplier is low. is relix burst dmg really supposed to be this weak? it feels like relix needs an arachness/dino

i feel like even my a7 alynx is stronger. although relix has no toys yet

[rugged bridge]

Using disbeleaf towards enemy's water familiars, and don't even facing mite, ofc you know whats the ending.
you can place him on where toko should be, they are same type healer support, just melee/ranged.
give disbeleaf some specific toys, better 5stars above for faster Cooldown.

[topaz shoal]

no have sadly

[topaz shoal]

i give up in arena

fk it toko bullsht

[digital spoke]

if u want hippo , must use suiryuu

[lunar fractal]

def tedious work but very useful. what we do in our KD is we send screeny of enemy comps alongside their CP for references

[lunar fractal]

ohhh got targeted by mite before it could heal. needs specific toys or full def toys bcos front disbelief needs to proc heal before it dies to be that useful

[digital spoke]

my mite die very fast 😦

[lunar fractal]

same haha. that's why i replaced mine with oro + def toys

[tawdry coyote]

Relixx has dmg scaling with darkness (+40% @A10) so is beneficial with more darkness on team, e.g., taurex, arachnes. It also has priority skill cast on cat. Otherwise, skill for skill, cat does more damage one-for-one.

[shell grail]

poor Dino got forgotten

[keen verge]

sounds right

relix is underwhelming ngl

[tawdry coyote]

I don't think it is.

It is excellent combo burst

[shell grail]

i dont have arachness, all depends on Dino

[keen verge]

relix is underwhelming. he needs another dark type familiar to complemenet his skill

its not like alynx cuz solo alynx' burst is high

in FA he is underwhelming. in PVP, very good

[tawdry coyote]

It has faster cast speed than cat though, that's what's important.

[tawdry coyote]

It's similar cast to Arachnes/Bunnybot. Same if not slightly slower.

[regal ledge]

What kind of team do you recommend for Relixx?

[tawdry coyote]

Taurex, Relixx, Tokotoko/Squibby, Alynx/Rimu, Arachnes/Dururu/Ursa

Not in that order perse

If you can make use of Dino then it casts after Relixx

[regal ledge]

Rimu is kinda hard to awaken with no banner, why haven't u recommended Dino in the team? Because it can't cast before Relixx?

[tawdry coyote]

I did say Dino later, I personally don't like it, because it usually needs generic toys to survive some.

It is fine to not cast before Relixx, even preferrable. I just don't think it is all that good, occasionally a niche pick at best. Others really like it though.

[regal ledge]

Cool, thanks

[tawdry coyote]

I personally think it goes best in cc chain team, but others prefer it in a dark team.

[regal ledge]

I dont see him often, havent tried him either, dont want to waste jelly haha

[shell grail]

this is the end of season, nobody risk to try something new that much.

maybe, u can see more at the beginning of new season

me too

[tawdry coyote]

As long as you have reasonable awakening, Relixx is just another disable AoE

[regal ledge]

yea agree

[regal ledge]

cool, good investment

[dusky wind]

reasonable as in 5+ or 7+ ?

[tawdry coyote]

A7+

[dusky wind]

[dusty wigeon]

Dear Netmarble,
On behalf of the Ninokuni player community, I am writing this letter to express my deep dissatisfaction with the recent balance changes made by your developers, specifically in the familiar arena and familiar abilities. I believe these changes were made without any transparency and without prior warning, causing significant harm to the player experience.

The lack of communication and transparency from the developers is unacceptable and causes great disappointment. Therefore, I request that from now on, all changes made in the familiar arena and familiar abilities be notified and thoroughly explained in patch notes or on the official game forum, so that the community can understand and prepare for these changes.

I would like to ask the Ninokuni community players to read this letter and support this complaint if they agree with it. I ask that you, players, help pressure the company to take measures to ensure that future balance changes in the game are made with transparency and are communicated in advance to the community, in order to avoid similar damage and ensure the best possible game experience.

I hope Netmarble understands the importance of communication and transparency for the player community and takes measures to improve the game experience for all.
I appreciate your attention and hope that the company will give a constructive response.

[tawdry coyote]

I appreciate your message, but I'm just a random player, lol.

[regal ledge]

what about going against this comp? what would you recommend?

[tawdry coyote]

what comp?

[regal ledge]

Taurex, Relixx, Tokotoko/Squibby, Alynx/Rimu, Arachnes/Dururu/Ursa

[tawdry coyote]

That's a lot of hypothetical optionals though

[digital spoke]

fek mite 😂

Anyway , I have been seeing such lineup by enemies .

[dusky wind]

what is the best counter for Hypo + Puffu (both on the back)?

[digital spoke]

Soon top10% wew

[shell grail]

I would say Stagthorn and Oro

[dusky wind]

also when attacking?

[shell grail]

yeah, that 2 water fams already

but need to consider the other 3 and how high awaken they are too

[dusky wind]

Ive seen some Hippo attacking against another Hippo and the Attacking one casted slightly faster, so with the dislocation it kindda of canceled/denied the defending Hippo skill

is that a thing? and if so, how is the cast priority calculated?

[shell grail]

that based on positioning if they are at the same awakening tier (like 0/3/7/10)

and their frontline too

[dusky wind]

Is there a place where I can read about cast priority and how long each familiar takes to cast?

[digital spoke]

sometimes i see enemy hippo cast skill faster than mine lol

[dusky wind]

while defending or attacking?

[shell grail]

try search @tawdry coyote's in this thread

[digital spoke]

when im attacking

[tawdry coyote]

Oh boy, I've written so much about this and tested so much. In short, it is INCREDIBLY convoluted. There are some basic priorities for familiars, but they are subject to change based off of their positioning and the other familiars around them. The priority can further be affected by 1) size 2) range/melee (displacement/none) 3) target changes/interrupts 4) speed buffs (we don't have those yet).

If you scroll up where I explained to Miku and tested multiple times, you can see what I found.

Some basics are the following:

1. Tunnelers (e.g., Dururu) have the highest priority. (Poor placement can make them have same priority as #2)

2. Flutterby (always casts before Taurex)

3. Taurex•••, Bunnybot, Arachnes, Relixx, Tokotoko, etc.

••• Although Taurex is in the same tier, it's during cast becomes uninterruptible, while the others are interruptible up until end of skill animation where in those niche cases, the spell completes.

[tawdry coyote]

Thanks for all the likes, appreciation, but most importantly all the knowledge you shared with us. I may not be able to make it back. In the case this is true, I hope someone takes the reigns lest I return .

I wish the best to you all.

• Cheers! ♥️

[digital spoke]

? 😮

[dusky wind]

are you leaving the game?

[slim horizon]

Yo @shell grail check it out

[shell grail]

good for u

[slim horizon]

Im fighting 4 people from 1 kingdom for 2 weeks xD

[shell grail]

quite the same to me here. xD

[slim horizon]

Good luck brother and thanks again for the tips

[ancient meteor]

What’s the best PVP familiar combo at the moment? Assuming that all are a7 at least.

[keen verge]

Offensive: Kona + Relixx/Arach + Molten
Defensive: Crab + Ursa + Molten

[ancient meteor]

Thanks. And sorry, I just realised this sub is only for arena 🫢.
But I’d like to know the same based on arena. What’s best combo for arena atm if you had free choice and all at least A7?
I know there is no ultimate answer. Just wanna hear some opinions.

[coral maple]

A7 ursa
A7 staghorn
A7 hippo
A7 auroralynx
A7 bunnybot

[ancient meteor]

Does Ursa cause frostbite to coop with hippo?

Ok no, looked it up. Isn’t it a waste of hippos ability, If there’s no familiar causing frostbite?

[slim horizon]

The thing is you basically gotta catch them all, enemies have different setups and sometimes a small replace works 😉

[ancient meteor]

Wise and true but unsatisfying answer 😂

[slim horizon]

It depends on server population, whales, banner picks etc

Nobody can tell you whats best without knowing what ur up against

[digital spoke]

i find mite sucks at attackng, easily dead

[ancient meteor]

Mine is a glasscanon as well. I combine him with 3 supports. So I reach Top 10 sometimes.

[digital spoke]

Do you have enough dps to attack :O, mine sharing your lineup

[ancient meteor]

I’ll dm you

[digital spoke]

ok

[dusky wind]

I have 3 rare egg selectors, who should I get? those are my current ones

Also, have enough jellys for almost +300 them, and 2 5* toy selector

[digital spoke]

hippo ?

[lunar fractal]

i'd prolly go with hippo as well if in cases that most guys in your server uses BTS or you have decent awake on your suiryu(if you also have)

[tawdry coyote]

Nobody. Hold off until you get more rares from pulls and/or more eggs to get something to A7.

[tawdry coyote]

Hard to leave when I saw the responses while I was away for so little.

Jkjk

Will be toning it back some.

[shell grail]

low chance for top10

surrounded by the same KD

[tawdry coyote]

C'mon, you can do it

I believe in you

[digital spoke]

im trying to maintain at top100 lol

[shell grail]

100% guarantee for top30, low chance to slip in top10 for me

[digital spoke]

[shell grail]

u can do this, hopefully

[digital spoke]

Let’s pray

[tawdry coyote]

[tawdry coyote]

Power of Dududu

[slim horizon]

im f2p and Dururu made me top3 xD

Don't tag so many people

[tawdry coyote]

I'm the op

Tagging people who may benefit from more advanced use of Dururu.

[digital spoke]

It’s fine to tag honestly since we are looking for different meta to climb

🫣🫣

[dusky wind]

Any good viable way to counter Dururu, atk and def

[digital spoke]

For def, I think can put one tank at the back.
for attack: my lineup is ebon toko hippo shrimp suiryuu. My backline able to tank and destroy him

[tawdry coyote]

We are very high spending server.

A10 Tokotoko, A10 Taurex, A9 Arachnes, A10 cat, A10 Bunnybot

[shell grail]

gimme some

[shell grail]

#14 currently, waiting for last minute risky run.

[shell grail]

look like I made it

[shell grail]

time to try some experimental lineups

[digital spoke]

Thanks senpai ! @shell grail @tawdry coyote

[shell grail]

u made it, gratz

[digital spoke]

Thanks for all the tips and advise

[slim horizon]

Arena fresh start go go go

[shell grail]

captured it when u can

[slim horizon]

Finished 3rd! First time ever since day 1 🙂

Gotta enjoy it now

[slim horizon]

[rugged bridge]

Other whales even didn't wake up for battling arena

[slim horizon]

Yea and im 60 points ahead 😅

[rugged bridge]

You prepared 5 tickets just before reset?

the good thing is they won't considered to fight 1st rank in the beginning
except they have beaten you before

[slim horizon]

Yea kinda saved 3 that wouldnt matter much 😅 there's just 3 whales that beat me at the moment

And one is way down there to reach me now haha

[rugged bridge]

Thats nice to lock up Top rank in our own server

[tawdry coyote]

[digital spoke]

any idea how to build or what should i focus. @tawdry coyote

im trying to help my friend ^ her list

[tawdry coyote]

First you must focus your inner peace.

Find your center.

Calm your mind and listen to your body.

[digital spoke]

[tawdry coyote]

Only then will you find peace of mind.

[digital spoke]

dafegk

[tawdry coyote]

Yo I'm bored

[digital spoke]

can oro play tank ?

since her ebon is a3 only

[tawdry coyote]

Well obv use the Dururu until Taurex is viable

Make sure it has its toys and is gummied

[digital spoke]

like this ?

[tawdry coyote]

Mite instead

Why use Oroboros with less awaken?

Don't use

[digital spoke]

wont it be easy to destroy with 2 water 2 flame

[tawdry coyote]

Hippo

Use oroboros and mite

[digital spoke]

oh

[tawdry coyote]

Oh wait toko only a5

[digital spoke]

yea sadly

HAHA

[tawdry coyote]

You'll need Shrimpaler

Or a miracle

[digital spoke]

no, need a wallet

kekw

nvm, i will get her to farm first 😛

[tawdry coyote]

Mmk

So team

Shrimp, Tokotoko, Mite, Oroboros, Dururu

[digital spoke]

op team, support as tanker

[tawdry coyote]

Terribly low awakening

I wish her luck

[digital spoke]

yea, f2p

😄

[tawdry coyote]

In her quest for top 300

Tbh

For rare eggs

She should work on Arachnes

Since it's already A3

[digital spoke]

[tawdry coyote]

She will one-shot your whole team

[digital spoke]

that shxt hurts

[tawdry coyote]

梅干し死んじゃったね。

[digital spoke]

rip

[tawdry coyote]

No honorifics for the dead

[digital spoke]

my biggestenemy, staghorn

[tawdry coyote]

Arachnes one-shot stag

[digital spoke]

[tawdry coyote]

Arachnes one-shot your family.

[digital spoke]

hope she can one shot hackers

[tawdry coyote]

@digital spoke what is the goal? Top 100?

[digital spoke]

i doubt she can, prob top10%

[tawdry coyote]

You doubt her credit card

https://tenor.com/view/tarjeta-de-credito-credit-card-gif-19426010

[digital spoke]

she would haves wipe if she want haha

[tawdry coyote]

I just let her borrow my familiars

So she can beat 梅干しちゃん。

[digital spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-gabriel-davis-allen-davis-buffalo-bills-gif-24575625

[tawdry coyote]

[slim horizon]

At wich awake Arachnes becomes viable?

[tawdry coyote]

A7 but need support to keep alive. If you're in low rank you can get away with lower awake.

[slim horizon]

I made molten lion awk3 from select eggs now focusing on Arachnes. Thanks for the tip 👌

[tawdry coyote]

I hope lion was just for pvp

[slim horizon]

Yea ofc 😅

[tawdry coyote]

Cause that's not gonna help you for fa

[slim horizon]

This is my attacking team

[tawdry coyote]

Not bad

I just don't like Dino

[slim horizon]

Dino need support like Arach hehe

[tawdry coyote]

It's just personal, it has such low priority cast

[slim horizon]

I like his AOE push backs 😄

[tawdry coyote]

Arachnes is not support

It is very high dps

Like if you remember from my video

That would one-shot your dino before it gets to attack

[slim horizon]

Thats not what i meant. Dino needs support familiars just like Arach does 🙂

[tawdry coyote]

Ah

Vs that team

[slim horizon]

Ill show whats been beating me

[tawdry coyote]

Arachnes would 1-shot it without support

[shell grail]

dururu is quite bad on defense team

[tawdry coyote]

Not really

I helped friends gain +20 rank with Dururu

Just have to know how to use

[slim horizon]

top2 server spender

[tawdry coyote]

Just Dino is terrible cause of prioritt

[shell grail]

not for my case, lose 5 defense streak.

[slim horizon]

That hippo smashes my Dururu

[tawdry coyote]

You get your attack off waaaaay too slowly

Dururu purpose is to interrupt and take another 1-2 burst

If you have no followup which you don't have

Then is wasted

Lol

Dino is not follow up

It is just a niche pick at best

[slim horizon]

My follow up is Dino for now, it works on my server xD

[tawdry coyote]

I have A10 gummied Dino don't get me wrong

It is just not for most situations

[slim horizon]

No i don't bro im listening and discussing it

[shell grail]

I want to combine Drr with Relixx and a.lynx.

seem like lack of burst output

a7

[tawdry coyote]

That's cause Relixx is part of cc chain team

[shell grail]

yeah

just experimental match

try to find some fit

[slim horizon]

Is this my best defense?

[tawdry coyote]

You need Mite/Arachnes/Oroboros/Suiryū

Or some other source of good dmg

[shell grail]

but have to replace 1 of them, which one?

ebon and toko locked

and positioning, any suggestion?

[tawdry coyote]

I would swap Dino for Suiryū and hide it along with Mite

[tawdry coyote]

Where is your comp?

[slim horizon]

Hmm Interesting, why would you?

[tawdry coyote]

Cause Suiryū does highest DMG of RGB, is ranged and kills Mite

[slim horizon]

So Suiryu in front, Might right Dino left Toko middle?

[tawdry coyote]

All you do is switch out Dino for Suiryū

[slim horizon]

I'll give it a shot and wait for an atack, it won't take long

[shell grail]

I try ebon Toko dururu a.lynx relixx on defense. look bad.

[tawdry coyote]

You don't need Ebon with Dururu

You can but don't have to

[shell grail]

ah, I see. more output instead

[tawdry coyote]

Would help to see your roster

[shell grail]

but my a10 ebon, poor bull

[slim horizon]

There are a few Stag's high awk on this server

[tawdry coyote]

I mean, I have A10 bunnybot, cat, A9 Arachnes, A10 took/Taurex

[shell grail]

on your pm

[tawdry coyote]

So it seems all your server top players

Would lose to my standard team

Which kinda sad

[slim horizon]

Top1 has 370k

[tawdry coyote]

Yeah nobody that low here

[shell grail]

I barely made it to top10 by last minute run today, Bunny. xD

[tawdry coyote]

No wonder they get away with running literally anything

Cause nothing matters everyone weak and nobody knows that they doing

Smh

[slim horizon]

Exactly, @shell grail pointed me here and i jumped from being top100 to top10 😅

It's really really dead in Europe

[tawdry coyote]

Maybe I should've made my acc in EU

Would've been hilarious.

[shell grail]

[slim horizon]

The most picked banner here is lynx and some relix awk 10 too

[shell grail]

Oh, I saw Shrimp's toy description changed. it increases allies HP recovery now.

did it change? last time I saw was about increased healing amount, didn't it?

[tawdry coyote]

It's same thing

Ported translation is poor

[shell grail]

what's wrong with that stall comp?

[shell grail]

your current team should be okay

[sullen minnow]

Hi! Ive been following the advice you kind people give in this thread and managed to get top 138 last season as f2p. Wondering if you could give me some feedback on what I could improve.

Those are the teams I use and my familiars. Currently sitting on 4 rare selector eggs. Thinking about grabbing one Molten (for PvP obv) and making either Hippo, Stag or Arachness awaken 3. What would you guys recommend as a future proof move?

[topaz shoal]

squibby

[shell grail]

not much output for a3 anything on FA, but u can try Hippo.
or save the eggs

[viscid arrow]

Is this a good team for def ? Or its better to use Boar ?

[shell grail]

u can try, but if u want stall comp, boar is better. (a7 seem low)
I might replace Shrimp with suiryu or mite for more dps output.

[tawdry coyote]

Don't use A1 Relixx, that's the same as A10 pipsqueak. A10 Pipsqueak might even win.

Should have gummy A7 Dururu

[tawdry coyote]

I think it's fine. Might swap order Dururu top and replace Taurex with Mite or keep Taurex.

The Dururu also needs gummy candy, otherwise not enough diabetes to win FA.

Oh lawdy, I see other thread with Byrde comp with wrong units.

[regal ledge]

Dururu is so vulnerable to a10 hippo, makes me cry

[tawdry coyote]

You have A6 toys?

[regal ledge]

only a5 for dururu

[tawdry coyote]

Point of Dururu is just to absorb 2 burst and interrupt 1.

By then you should have taken care of front line.

If not, you lacking dmg

[tawdry coyote]

Did you see video I uploaded?

[regal ledge]

Might have missed it?

[regal ledge]

Dururu did his job but my front line died before his

[tawdry coyote]

@tawdry coyote @regal ledge

[regal ledge]

He also got a dururu which I cant kill insta cuz I got no hippo

[tawdry coyote]

This, he has no toys and A8

I didn't think I'd ever use cause was only A8 even after spending I've 4k diamonds

So combined his toys for other stuff

[tawdry coyote]

Why not Suiryū?

Hippo weak

[regal ledge]

He has a10 hippo

[tawdry coyote]

Didn't matter

[regal ledge]

I use Suiryu?

[tawdry coyote]

Just like A10 cat

[regal ledge]

Replace who though

Spent so much on relixx lol

[tawdry coyote]

Suiryū outddamages then

Relixx has first cast on cat

[regal ledge]

I can give it a try

[tawdry coyote]

But after first cast cooldown longer

What level your Bunnybot?

[regal ledge]

relixx has the highest CP in my team haha

a7 bunny

[tawdry coyote]

Ugh

I think not sure

But it might cast before hippo

[regal ledge]

I replaced dururu with bunny for attack on the same team and I won, not sure if its the same on defence

bunny cast before hippo

[tawdry coyote]

Dururu is just good for changing Taurex cast

And interrupt

[regal ledge]

Yea I like dururu but seems like im lacking damage

[tawdry coyote]

Bunnybot is like .1 faster than Arachnes .1 faster than Relixx

Dururu is def

It is not meant to kill

If you want killer, use Hobgoblin

Or cactus when it comes out

[regal ledge]

I got hob

[tawdry coyote]

My other friend in AS got 1st with Hob in one of his later matches

[regal ledge]

whats the team comp?

[tawdry coyote]

[regal ledge]

I used hob for a while but coudnt bring me wins for long

[tawdry coyote]

It was just counter team

You seen other fam channel all talk about Bryde comp

We run that, we get kicked out of top 10 right away

[regal ledge]

lol yes bryde no luck

[tawdry coyote]

It's okay for top 100 top 30 sometimes

Or low spending server

Gonna be funny when we finally get Petal

Portal + Kona

[regal ledge]

they do well against relixx and cat?

[regal ledge]

When did you upload it? Let me have a look

[tawdry coyote]

I just tagged you

[tawdry coyote]

Yes

[regal ledge]

somehow its not showing up

[regal ledge]

This one?

[tawdry coyote]

Well look up power of Dururu

[regal ledge]

Yea he is good when fighting a non water team I guess

[tawdry coyote]

A8 no toys vs A10s is equivalent to fighting water team

Esp with Arachnes

Vs water you do same, just absorb some burst

[regal ledge]

Is Arachnes the highest dmg dealer?

[tawdry coyote]

I guess difference I have A10 Bunnybot, A9 Arachnes, A10 Alynx

Arachnes usually highest damage dealer,

[regal ledge]

Yea..

[tawdry coyote]

Unless I fight Ursa, then Oroboros is

Well depends on rest of their comp

There are times I'll still use Arachnes

[regal ledge]

If Arachnes is so OP, why Korean server don’t prioritise it?

[rugged bridge]

IDK why, but i guess it cuz really old familiar, and there are so many dark fam continously showed up like Relixx, then Whiz, and new dark cat Rumi.

so, people just like build a new one instead of Arachness

[regal ledge]

Arachnes is melee, doesn't that make him die faster? Lol

[regal ledge]

@tawdry coyote Don't you get targeted a lot as rank 3 by rank1 and 2 players?

[tawdry coyote]

yes

rank 1 and 3 point disparity too high to matter

rank 2 doesn't win

or at least not high win rate

[tawdry coyote]

Korean servers DO use Arachnes when it got buffed, but it is only used in attack comps. if it is revealed, it is easily countered

After it got buffed, it cast faster

Whiz came with Sunshine, that did not change the meta in the slightest

I agree, yes, with Rumi there was a shift away from Auralynx, but not much of difference. If anything Gem made for a greater shift from the more common use of Arachnes, but its debuff still finds its use.

[regal ledge]

Sounds like rank 2 is the most unluckiest out of top 3?

[regal ledge]

Who do you attack to get points?

[regal ledge]

Oh cool, how do you find out? got acc in KR?

[tawdry coyote]

yes, and friend who top 1 also whale in KR

[regal ledge]

Whats the best KR server to get in to for familiar arena reference?

[tawdry coyote]

I play some in KR but it is depressing seeing all the anniversary stuff they get, while we get junk

[regal ledge]

LOL thats so true

[tawdry coyote]

I am not sure, I'd have to ask her. I wouldn't think the disparity is that enormous like in global, since they have server transfer.

for example, I am Jade Taurus in NA, and our server has been closed off for 3 months because we have a bot issue

YET

our top 10 has some of the biggest whales in all of global

used to have the #1 whale Karmic before he quit for example

[regal ledge]

isn't it a waste to quit when you have whaled in so much

[regal ledge]

Cool, let me know if you find out

[tawdry coyote]

I stopped whaling after Alynx.

just spending more casually and winning all my 50/50 on bunnybot and 33% and 50/50 on arachnes

[regal ledge]

Im not ready to give up my rank 1 lol

[tawdry coyote]

haha

maybe when transfer comes out, I'll come pay you a visit with my bunnybot team

[regal ledge]

Oh I would love the challenge!

[tawdry coyote]

hope you

hoppe you're ready for my A10 bunnybot with my A10 flutterby to shield my A10 pipsqueek

[regal ledge]

I wonder what would happen if I used the same team comp

[tawdry coyote]

you don't have A10 bunnybot

[regal ledge]

aiming for it, I might have it when you are here hehe

[tawdry coyote]

Okay, see you in 5 years!

[regal ledge]

lol

[tawdry coyote]

[rugged bridge]

There is new dev note, server merge lmao

[tawdry coyote]

great

more people who don't know how to deal with arachnes/bunnybot

[rugged bridge]

Because most of them are f2p or low spender, can't relate to A7+

[tawdry coyote]

gimme more credit then that! A9 then rest A10, cmon!

[regal ledge]

funny how none in my server uses arch+bunny

[shell grail]

merge. not transfer by choice

[tawdry coyote]

[rugged bridge]

I think in KR there is a server transfer coupon, if i'm not wrong

or in global here, NNK will decide every server that will be merged?

[shell grail]

yes, describe in latest dev's note (came with new code: NEWSTART2023)

discuss further in #💬｜general-chat

[lusty cargo]

merge will be fun

new people

pls u don't need to leave your current kd

[topaz shoal]

this deck seem to be working well

[dusky wind]

is Squiby the best healer in FA?

[shell grail]

yeah, should be

[dusky wind]

from which Aw. does it gets better than a Toko aw10 ?

[shell grail]

7+, I guess

[tawdry coyote]

You are right. Global is no choice merge. In JP KR there was a merger but there are ALSO transfer coupons.

[tawdry coyote]

Currently at A10, yes it is a strong contender.

[tawdry coyote]

Two in my server use. 1 and 3.